Re: texlive2009 f11 broken by today's update
On Friday 13 November 2009 00:38:21 Neal Becker wrote: Was working, but after today's update: pdflatex pll_freq_ramp.tex This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (Web2C 2009) kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdflatex.fmt I can't find the format file `pdflatex.fmt'! I have been testing this on F-12 and sometimes update break with this same error. The latest updates are working here. The symptom is that running fmtutil-sys --all as root returns nothing. I have still determine what causes this, and since the last update is working I don't have an incentive to continue searching. :-) -- José Abílio -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Identifying remaining core font users
Le jeudi 12 novembre 2009 à 21:25 -0600, Chris Adams a écrit : Xaw and core fonts are not something new programs should use, but they still work. Are they really a significant maintenance issue? Core fonts are an issue for anyone working on X or Linux fonts. You may think this year's big X11 news was driver changes or render magic, but for many people it was that emacs finally released an official stable version that didn't use them (even though they kept the old path as fallback, probably because they don't trust 100% their new code) Every single legacy xorg font package fails validation, because many fonts of this era have incomplete metadata (you could cheat and put the info manually in fonts.dir and no one was the wiser, except people who ran mkfontdir and got garbage indexes as output). I doubt we'll find people willing to fix them. -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: libsndfile status?
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/bugs/libsndfile What's up with libsndfile in Fedora and EPEL? There are open tickets about CVEs filed in March. There are additional tickets without any reply. Yeah, things go a little slow with libsndfile. Because of the old version we have in Fedora 12 we also are not able to update some of our audio packages. I requested for comaintainership to fix the bugs filed to Fedora. Orcan We can't reach the maintainer. We tried it in various ways at various times, e.g. [1]. I even offered help but got nothing... Shall I fix the bugs and update the package with my proven powers? I don't like to do substantial changes on other people's packages. But this one has a security bug that is open for 8 months... Also a few users asked me to update ardour but I can't do it without updating libsndfile. What shall we do? Orcan [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527109 [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488362 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: texlive2009 f11 broken by today's update
José Matos wrote: On Friday 13 November 2009 00:38:21 Neal Becker wrote: Was working, but after today's update: pdflatex pll_freq_ramp.tex This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (Web2C 2009) kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdflatex.fmt I can't find the format file `pdflatex.fmt'! I have been testing this on F-12 and sometimes update break with this same error. The latest updates are working here. The symptom is that running fmtutil-sys --all as root returns nothing. I have still determine what causes this, and since the last update is working I don't have an incentive to continue searching. :-) Very strange, I'm testing on 2 machines, both very similar. This happened on one, but not the other. I ran yum reinstall texlive*, and it's fixed. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Identifying remaining core font users
Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net writes: Le jeudi 12 novembre 2009 à 14:59 +0100, Andreas Schwab a écrit : Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net writes: Therefore, I'd like to identify remaining core font users, and remind them periodically their core font use is not good for their users or for Fedora. What's wrong with proving support for core fonts as a fallback? That's what Emacs is doing, for example. The problem here is your fallback is going to be less robust than your primary path. Also it is not needed at all. Every single major GUI app uses the new (in 2003 sense of new) font backend, so if it fails you're not going to fallback individual apps you're going to switch to the console to fix the system. I don't understand. Emacs uses the fallback for example to display characters from the Korean KSC charset, in my case using -daewoo-minco-medium-*-ksc5601.1987-0 fonts. What's the approved way to do that? Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, sch...@redhat.com GPG Key fingerprint = D4E8 DBE3 3813 BB5D FA84 5EC7 45C6 250E 6F00 984E And now for something completely different. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Identifying remaining core font users
Le vendredi 13 novembre 2009 à 09:55 +0100, Andreas Schwab a écrit : I don't understand. Emacs uses the fallback for example to display characters from the Korean KSC charset, in my case using -daewoo-minco-medium-*-ksc5601.1987-0 fonts. What's the approved way to do that? You do it like everyone else. You pass the codepoints to fontconfig (possibly, after unicode conversion) and let it find Korean fonts available in the distro (there are many, and daewoo minco medium would appear in the list if it was packaged properly). How do you think Firefox displays Korean pages ? It does not use core fonts. -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Identifying remaining core font users
Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net writes: You do it like everyone else. You pass the codepoints to fontconfig Emacs does that already AFAIK. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, sch...@redhat.com GPG Key fingerprint = D4E8 DBE3 3813 BB5D FA84 5EC7 45C6 250E 6F00 984E And now for something completely different. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: libsndfile status?
Hi, On 11/13/2009 09:37 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/bugs/libsndfile What's up with libsndfile in Fedora and EPEL? There are open tickets about CVEs filed in March. There are additional tickets without any reply. Yeah, things go a little slow with libsndfile. Because of the old version we have in Fedora 12 we also are not able to update some of our audio packages. I requested for comaintainership to fix the bugs filed to Fedora. Orcan We can't reach the maintainer. We tried it in various ways at various times, e.g. [1]. I even offered help but got nothing... Shall I fix the bugs and update the package with my proven powers? I don't like to do substantial changes on other people's packages. But this one has a security bug that is open for 8 months... Also a few users asked me to update ardour but I can't do it without updating libsndfile. What shall we do? I would say just go ahead and fix it, and maybe start an awol maintainer procedure so that you can eventually take over the package. Regards, Hans -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Identifying remaining core font users
Le vendredi 13 novembre 2009 à 10:55 +0100, Andreas Schwab a écrit : Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net writes: You do it like everyone else. You pass the codepoints to fontconfig Emacs does that already AFAIK. Then it has no actual need to the fallback path. It's probably only there because emacs people were not 100% confident on the new fontconfig code they wrote. -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Identifying remaining core font users
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 01:11:03PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Hi, • grads grads-0:1.9b4-28.fc12 — /usr/bin/gradsc — /usr/bin/gradsdods — /usr/bin/gradshdf — /usr/bin/gradsnc — /usr/bin/gxtran The X core fonts are used to draw custom widgets on the graphs. Maybe using xft as a build-time alternative would be acceptable upstream. I may have a look at it at some point. In the mean time it defaults to fixed font which should always be available. • lesstif lesstif-0:0.95.2-1.fc12 — /usr/lib64/libMrm.so.2.0.1 — /usr/lib64/libXm.so.2.0.1 lesstif since 2003 or so and Motif more generally supports Xft. I don't knwow exactly how integrated this is with fontconfig. When there is a need to do some low level stuff with fonts (for example getting the font dimensions), the calling appliaction should check whether this is a X Font, an X FontSet or an Xft font and act accordingly. So for Motif clients, there should always be some handling of X core fonts in parallel with Xft fonts. And in most cases the font style should not be known by the application since high level Motif API should be used. • xbae xbae-0:4.60.4-12.fc12 — /usr/lib64/libXbae.so.4.0.60 xbae uses some low level font handling in Draw.c/Create.c and XFT should be supported here. There is a request: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2811228group_id=31337atid=401983 I may have a look as time permits. -- Pat -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Identifying remaining core font users
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:06:45AM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le vendredi 13 novembre 2009 à 10:55 +0100, Andreas Schwab a écrit : Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net writes: You do it like everyone else. You pass the codepoints to fontconfig Emacs does that already AFAIK. Then it has no actual need to the fallback path. It's probably only there because emacs people were not 100% confident on the new fontconfig code they wrote. There is also a portability issue. Maybe emacs is also meant to work on old unices that don't use fontconfig. -- Pat -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Identifying remaining core font users
Le vendredi 13 novembre 2009 à 11:09 +0100, Patrice Dumas a écrit : On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:06:45AM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le vendredi 13 novembre 2009 à 10:55 +0100, Andreas Schwab a écrit : Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net writes: You do it like everyone else. You pass the codepoints to fontconfig Emacs does that already AFAIK. Then it has no actual need to the fallback path. It's probably only there because emacs people were not 100% confident on the new fontconfig code they wrote. There is also a portability issue. Maybe emacs is also meant to work on old unices that don't use fontconfig. Well in that case you do not include the code for old unices in the version built for modern unices such as Fedora -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Identifying remaining core font users
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:22:40AM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Well in that case you do not include the code for old unices in the version built for modern unices such as Fedora It is not always possible to distinguish whether the unix is old or new at compile time. Maybe the Xft version number could be a hint, but it may not be that easy. There could be, however, configure switches to disable completly support for one or the other backend, sure, that could be chosen by the pakager. -- Pat -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Identifying remaining core font users
Le vendredi 13 novembre 2009 à 17:42 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit : Here is a new filtered list, based on the suggestions I've received since my first posting. Please tell me if there is still some files that should not belong here, and why I should have written that the test used in this version is repoquery --whatrequires 'libX11.so*' … grep -i -e ^./sbin/ \ -e ^./usr/sbin/ \ -e ^./usr/kerberos/sbin \ -e ^./bin/ \ -e ^./usr/bin/ \ -e ^./usr/kerberos/bin/ \ -e ^./lib.*/ \ -e ^./usr/lib.*/ \ -e ^./opt/ \ -e ^./usr/X11R6/ \ -e ^./usr/games/ \ -e ^./usr/local/ \ | grep -vi -e ^./usr/bin/dmxwininfo \ -e ^./usr/bin/Xdmx \ -e ^./usr/bin/xfontsel \ -e ^./usr/bin/xlsfonts \ -e ^./usr/bin/Xnest \ -e ^./usr/bin/xprop \ -e ^./usr/bin/xsetroot \ -e ^./usr/bin/xwininfo \ -e ^./usr/bin/x11vnc \ -e ^./usr/bin/x2vnc \ -e ^./usr/lib.*/libXcursor.so … [ $(nm -aDu $file 2 /dev/null | grep -q '\XLoad.*Font') ] \ echo FAIL -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12
On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 09:35 -0500, Andy Gospodarek wrote: On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:27:28PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) said: There are definitely workarounds available, but none that meet the criteria for preupgrade as an effortless upgrade option. So I'm a bit confused by what is so hard here. preupgrade starts up, finds it can't store stage2, and then tells you that you'll need to have a wired connection to the internet if you want to use it. So you have to download stage2 when you reboot and you have to cart your laptop over to the router to plug it in while it does so... it's not like I'm going to be using it for work while anaconda is running Basically, the case where it fails is when there's enough space to download stage2, but not enough space left after downloading stage2 to do the upgrade. Could we add some support to use a USB key as scratch space for any part of this process? Not a bad idea. Not sure who would add this support and test it before Tuesday. Definitely something to consider as a future enhancement to preupgrade. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Identifying remaining core font users
2009/11/13 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net: • xdvik-0:22.84.14-7.fc12 — /usr/bin/pxdvi-xaw3d — /usr/bin/xdvi-xaw3d A more crusty piece of code than xdvi you never did see. It's very much in bugfix only mode upstream, so I very much doubt upstream, such as it is, will be moving to a modern tool kit and using fontconfig. I don't think it'd be a useful expenditure of time in any case. A better expenditure of time would be to work out what (if any) functionality is missing in evince-dvi which prevents us from dropping xdvi altogether. J. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Identifying remaining core font users
Le vendredi 13 novembre 2009 à 18:01 +, Jonathan Underwood a écrit : 2009/11/13 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net: • xdvik-0:22.84.14-7.fc12 — /usr/bin/pxdvi-xaw3d — /usr/bin/xdvi-xaw3d A more crusty piece of code than xdvi you never did see. It's very much in bugfix only mode upstream, so I very much doubt upstream, such as it is, will be moving to a modern tool kit and using fontconfig. I don't think it'd be a useful expenditure of time in any case. A better expenditure of time would be to work out what (if any) functionality is missing in evince-dvi which prevents us from dropping xdvi altogether. As long as the bit using Core fonts is no longer in the repo, I'll be happy :p -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 has gone gold
On 11/10/2009 09:24 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 09:02 -0800, John Poelstra wrote: My impressions from this meeting were slightly different :-) We noted that there are no known reasons that we are not go and that we will continue testing until Wednesday when QA expects to have completed the testing matrix. Maybe we are separated by semantics, but gone gold or completely done was not an impression I left the meeting with. http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-11-10/fedora-meeting.2009-11-10-01.01.log.html Our impressions are indeed different. The go / no go meeting was the point of no return. Once we go, there is no going back. We've made a commitment to go with what we have, and let the various teams that need time to prepare for the release to start their work, as much of that work cannot be pulled back once done. Let's say all of these things next time and be clear about what our next steps are. I will try to help with that. Re-reading the meeting log, none of the things announced about going GOLD were said at the meeting. The Go/No-Go meetings for Alpha and Beta were handled differently in that we kept optimistically testing after them vs. saying we were GO and abruptly moving on to other things. That was the disconnect for me. John -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
FESCO meeting summary - 2009-11-13
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2009-11-13) === Meeting started by nirik at 17:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-11-13/fesco.2009-11-13-17.00.log.html Meeting summary --- * ticket 263 - Sponsorship request: hubbitus (nirik, 17:03:47) * AGREED: ticket 263 is rejected for now. (nirik, 17:06:41) * ticket 268 - Proven packager request - Daniel Drake (nirik, 17:06:54) * AGREED: ticket 268 is approved. (nirik, 17:08:13) * ticket 269 - Request to approve mether a sponsor for package maintainers (nirik, 17:08:34) * AGREED: ticket 269 is rejected for now, please do some more detailed reviews and come back in a while. (nirik, 17:11:24) * ticket 270 - FESCO topic proposal - preupgrade and F-12 (nirik, 17:11:39) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Preupgrade (jlaska, 17:36:27) * AGREED: preupgrade plan is approved. (nirik, 17:39:01) * ticket 41 - SystemTap Static Probes - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemtapStaticProbes (nirik, 17:42:06) * back to preupgrade talk (nirik, 17:45:38) * ticket 41 - SystemTap Static Probes - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemtapStaticProbes (nirik, 17:47:12) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Features/SystemtapStaticProbesdiff=113907oldid=99276 (nirik, 17:49:46) * AGREED: SystemTap Static Probes feature is approved for F13 (nirik, 17:51:18) * ticket 260 - SIP Witch Domain Telephony - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SIP_Witch_Domain_Telephony (nirik, 17:51:36) * AGREED: the SIP Witch Domain Telephony Feature is approved for F13. (nirik, 17:55:00) * ticket 271 - Automatic Print Driver installation - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/AutomaticPrintDriverInstallation (nirik, 17:55:22) * AGREED: Automatic Print Driver installation feature is approved for F13 (nirik, 18:02:20) * ticket 272 - Intellij IDEA - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/IntelliJ_IDEA (nirik, 18:02:35) * LINK: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/ (Kevin_Kofler, 18:08:14) * LINK: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/buy.jsp#openSource seems to indicate that its for open source developers only (dgilmore, 18:10:44) * LINK: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/nextversion/free_java_ide.html (dgilmore, 18:12:05) * LINK: http://www.jetbrains.com/company/press/pr_151009.html (Kevin_Kofler, 18:12:15) * AGREED: the Intellij IDEA Feature is deffered until next week for more info from the feature owner. (nirik, 18:15:34) * ticket 273 - Python 3 F13 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Python3F13 (nirik, 18:15:51) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Python3 (dmalcolm, 18:20:39) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Python3#Python_modules_for_non-standard_runtimes in fact (dmalcolm, 18:21:03) * AGREED: Python 3 F13 feature is approved for F13 (nirik, 18:25:59) * Open Floor (nirik, 18:26:06) Meeting ended at 18:37:11 UTC. Action Items Action Items, by person --- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * nirik (123) * Kevin_Kofler (92) * wwoods (83) * j-rod (55) * skvidal (46) * dgilmore (31) * jlaska (27) * dmalcolm (19) * zodbot (16) * sharkcz (16) * Oxf13 (14) * oget (7) * tibbs (6) * abadger1999 (5) * jrb (4) * thomasj (4) * jwb (3) * muep_ (2) * smooge (1) * cebbert (1) * dwmw2 (0) * jds2001 (0) * notting (0) signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 has gone gold
On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 10:44 -0800, John Poelstra wrote: Let's say all of these things next time and be clear about what our next steps are. I will try to help with that. Re-reading the meeting log, none of the things announced about going GOLD were said at the meeting. The Go/No-Go meetings for Alpha and Beta were handled differently in that we kept optimistically testing after them vs. saying we were GO and abruptly moving on to other things. That was the disconnect for me. AFAIK QA always keeps testing things, because there are still bugs to be found, and things to document for the release, or things to update for 0-day. The whole point of having a go/no-go decision is that it is the point where we say we are going without stopping, or we're stopping until we fix some things and we can go again. It's a point in which we tell those that depend on us that we are go, that nothing can stop us. I had mistakenly assumed everybody knew that's what a go/no-go was. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Identifying remaining core font users
On Friday 13 November 2009, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le vendredi 13 novembre 2009 à 11:58 +, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : Nicolas, if possible next time please give the package maintainer (ie. FAS username) next to each package in the list. Otherwise it's harder to tell which packages I should look at. Last time I asked how to do this the answer was just rewrite your script in python. Since I have other things to do, it won't happen. Check out /usr/bin/fedoradev-pkgowners in the fedora-packager package. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Identifying remaining core font users
Le vendredi 13 novembre 2009 à 21:08 +0200, Ville Skyttä a écrit : On Friday 13 November 2009, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le vendredi 13 novembre 2009 à 11:58 +, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : Nicolas, if possible next time please give the package maintainer (ie. FAS username) next to each package in the list. Otherwise it's harder to tell which packages I should look at. Last time I asked how to do this the answer was just rewrite your script in python. Since I have other things to do, it won't happen. Check out /usr/bin/fedoradev-pkgowners in the fedora-packager package. Oh, here goes my reason not to do it. Thanks for the tip! -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
texlive 2009 f11 info conflict
Transaction Check Error: file /usr/share/info/dir from install of texlive-kpathsea- doc-2009-2.15842.fc12.noarch conflicts with file from package info-4.13a-4.fc11.x86_64 file /usr/share/info/kpathsea.info.gz from install of texlive-kpathsea- doc-2009-2.15842.fc12.noarch conflicts with file from package kpathsea-2007-46.fc11.x86_64 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
[Fwd: Meeting (Fedora talk?) to discuss no frozen rawhide]
Realized I should post this here, for transparency and all. Anybody is welcome to join once we pick a time/place, but I would urge only those that are willing to do some work come along. We'll summarize the output for others who just wish to be informed. Forwarded Message From: Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com To: rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Meeting (Fedora talk?) to discuss no frozen rawhide Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:23:20 -0800 Now that 12 is in the can, we need to start talking about 13, and how no frozen rawhide comes into play. I'd like to set aside some time Wed or later to have a Fedora talk + gobby call where we can review the proposal, see where we are with it, and walk through the Fedora 13 development cycle in light of the proposal, so that we can outline where work needs to be done and deadlines for that work. I currently have no meetings scheduled for Wed the 18th, so I'm available from 1700 UTC to 2300 UTC. ___ rel-eng mailing list rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/rel-eng -- Jesse Keating RHCE (http://jkeating.livejournal.com) Fedora Project (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JesseKeating) GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) identi.ca (http://identi.ca/jkeating) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
New package for F-12
Hi, is it allowed to get new package into F-12 by standard make tag, make build, make update workflow? Or rather should I file a ticket to FESCO, since F-12 is in some freeze? I have my package approved and got CVS module already[1]. It is my first time to push a package to frozen branch. Thanks for help, Krzesimir [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527241 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Fwd: Meeting (Fedora talk?) to discuss no frozen rawhide]
Is this the place where we talk about new features? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Roopesh's Birthday Calendar
Please click on the link below and enter your birthday for me. I am creating a birthday calendar for myself. Don't worry, it'll take less than a minute (and you don't have to enter your year of birth). Spam? o.O -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Roopesh's Birthday Calendar
On 11/13/2009 04:13 PM, Ikem Krueger wrote: Please click on the link below and enter your birthday for me. I am creating a birthday calendar for myself. Don't worry, it'll take less than a minute (and you don't have to enter your year of birth). Spam? o.O Or he just loves us. --CJD -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon
Jesse Keating wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 16:09 -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: For heaven's sake, no! Don't you realize this means a ton of *users* will start to bog down the mirrors before the whole data set has propagated through the network? I'm not sure what you're expecting, but users will only be able to get to the Everything tree, which is nearly 100% hardlinks into the development/ tree. There are no isos, no install images, nothing but rpms and repodata. They will not be able to get to the isos which are behind locked dirs. So, can I do preupgrade now (I have plenty of /boot)? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Identifying remaining core font users
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 03:36:14PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I'm no fan of Python either, but there is a fairly simple JSON API to the package database. eg: wget -O ocaml.json 'https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/ocaml?tg_format=json' which gave me a huge JSON-format file which did contain my FAS username in the field packageListings[0].people[0].username, see: http://www.annexia.org/tmp/ocaml.json.txt If you're going to use this URL, note that you can also filter the data returned by collection and release. For instance, if you only want to get information about the devel branch: wget -O ocaml.json 'https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/ocaml/Fedora/devel?tg_format=json' -Toshio pgpqbztCvsds4.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Roopesh's Birthday Calendar
On 09-11-13 16:13:20, Ikem Krueger wrote: Please click on the link below and enter your birthday for me. I am creating a birthday calendar for myself. Don't worry, it'll take less than a minute (and you don't have to enter your year of birth). Spam? o.O Phishing. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: New package for F-12
Krzesimir Nowak wrote: is it allowed to get new package into F-12 by standard make tag, make build, make update workflow? Yes, it's even the only way as it is no longer possible to get the package into the F12 release itself (it's too late for that, the release is already in the process of being mirrored). Or rather should I file a ticket to FESCO, since F-12 is in some freeze? That would be rel-eng, not FESCo, but it's too late for a freeze break anyway, you have to file an update instead. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon
On 11/14/2009 05:22 AM, Neal Becker wrote: Jesse Keating wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 16:09 -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: For heaven's sake, no! Don't you realize this means a ton of *users* will start to bog down the mirrors before the whole data set has propagated through the network? I'm not sure what you're expecting, but users will only be able to get to the Everything tree, which is nearly 100% hardlinks into the development/ tree. There are no isos, no install images, nothing but rpms and repodata. They will not be able to get to the isos which are behind locked dirs. So, can I do preupgrade now (I have plenty of /boot)? Yes. As always, having a backup of your data is a good thing. Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
[Bug 537138] Bioperl doesn't bootstrap on other platforms, circular dependencies
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537138 --- Comment #11 from Yaakov Nemoy loupgaroubl...@gmail.com 2009-11-13 07:51:16 EDT --- Follows is a list of the packages we had to rebuild to make this work. In almost all cases we had to do a simple rebuild for epel. 'umc' means that we applied our own patches. In this particular case, one of the tests was failing and i need to attach an appropriate bug report. I googled the error and it appears it might be a regression from a bug that was fixed in an earlier version, but i'm not 100% what it is. On that note, is there anything you fundamentally need todo to the spec file to once and for all solve the bootstrap problem? If not, uncommenting and then commenting code seems to work, and i feel this bug can be closed. Comments? perl-bioperl noarch 1.6.1-1.el5 centos-5-genomics 6.2 M libxml2 x86_64 2.7.6-1.el5 centos-5-genomics 854 k libxml2-python x86_64 2.7.6-1.el5 centos-5-genomics 519 k libxslt x86_64 1.1.26-1.el5 centos-5-genomics 546 k perl-Ace noarch 1.92-2.el5 centos-5-genomics 310 k perl-Bio-ASN1-EntrezGene noarch 1.091-7.el5 centos-5-genomics 41 k perl-Convert-Binary-Cx86_64 0.74-1.el5 centos-5-genomics 294 k perl-Data-Stag noarch 0.11-2.el5 centos-5-genomics 185 k perl-Math-Derivative noarch 0.01-3.el5 centos-5-genomics 7.3 k perl-Math-Spline noarch 0.01-2.el5 centos-5-genomics 8.4 k perl-PostScript noarch 0.06-2.el5 centos-5-genomics 31 k perl-SVG noarch 2.44-1.el5 centos-5-genomics 82 k perl-SVG-Graph noarch 0.02-1.el5 centos-5-genomics 96 k perl-Set-Scalar noarch 1.23-2.el5 centos-5-genomics 38 k perl-XML-DOM-XPath noarch 0.14-1.el5 centos-5-genomics 11 k perl-XML-LibXSLT x86_64 1.68-3.el5 centos-5-genomics 54 k perl-XML-SAX noarch 0.96-2.el5 centos-5-genomics 78 k perl-XML-XPathEngine noarch 0.11-1.el5 centos-5-genomics 40 k perl-umc-XML-LibXML x86_64 1:1.69-3.el5 centos-5-genomics 375 k -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
rpms/perl-Event/EL-5 .cvsignore, 1.3, 1.4 perl-Event.spec, 1.6, 1.7 sources, 1.5, 1.6
Author: stevetraylen Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Event/EL-5 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28249 Modified Files: .cvsignore perl-Event.spec sources Log Message: First EPEL5 build. Index: .cvsignore === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Event/EL-5/.cvsignore,v retrieving revision 1.3 retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -p -r1.3 -r1.4 --- .cvsignore 16 Oct 2006 04:37:26 - 1.3 +++ .cvsignore 13 Nov 2009 19:47:56 - 1.4 @@ -1 +1 @@ -Event-1.07.tar.gz +Event-1.13.tar.gz Index: perl-Event.spec === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Event/EL-5/perl-Event.spec,v retrieving revision 1.6 retrieving revision 1.7 diff -u -p -r1.6 -r1.7 --- perl-Event.spec 1 Jun 2007 21:11:11 - 1.6 +++ perl-Event.spec 13 Nov 2009 19:47:56 - 1.7 @@ -1,10 +1,10 @@ Name: perl-Event -Version:1.09 +Version:1.13 Release:1%{?dist} Summary:Event loop processing Group: Development/Libraries -License:Artistic or GPL +License:GPL+ or Artistic URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Event/ Source0: http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/J/JP/JPRIT/Event-%{version}.tar.gz BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n) @@ -86,6 +86,10 @@ rm -rf %{buildroot} %changelog +* Fri Nov 13 2009 Steve Traylen steve.tray...@cern.ch 1.13-1 +- Update to 1.13 +- Reformat license string to pass rpmlint + * Fri Jun 01 2007 Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 1.09-1 - update to 1.09 - add t/ to doc Index: sources === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Event/EL-5/sources,v retrieving revision 1.5 retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -p -r1.5 -r1.6 --- sources 1 Jun 2007 21:11:11 - 1.5 +++ sources 13 Nov 2009 19:47:56 - 1.6 @@ -1 +1 @@ -3700789e6af2595925a6fe2ce3d5d052 Event-1.09.tar.gz +88cf5bb6b4b06e016072a5ff2ff8fa1a Event-1.13.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list
rpms/perl-Event/EL-4 perl-Event.spec,1.14,1.15 sources,1.7,1.8
Author: stevetraylen Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Event/EL-4 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv32681 Modified Files: perl-Event.spec sources Log Message: First EPEL4 version. Index: perl-Event.spec === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Event/EL-4/perl-Event.spec,v retrieving revision 1.14 retrieving revision 1.15 diff -u -p -r1.14 -r1.15 --- perl-Event.spec 1 Sep 2009 07:55:11 - 1.14 +++ perl-Event.spec 13 Nov 2009 20:08:29 - 1.15 @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ Name: perl-Event -Version:1.12 +Version:1.13 Release:1%{?dist} Summary:Event loop processing @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ BuildRequires: /usr/bin/iconv BuildRequires: perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker) BuildRequires: perl(Time::HiRes) BuildRequires: perl(Test) = 1 - +BuildRequires: groff Requires: perl(Time::HiRes) %{?perl_default_filter} @@ -35,9 +35,9 @@ perldoc perlgpl LICENSE.GPL perldoc perlartistic LICENSE.Artistic # appease rpmlint :) -find . -type f -exec chmod -c -x {} + +find . -type f -print -exec chmod -c -x {} \; %{_fixperms} demo util -find t/ -type f -exec perl -pi -e 's|^#!\./perl|#!%{__perl}|' {} + +find t/ -type f -print -exec perl -pi -e 's|^#!\./perl|#!%{__perl}|' {} \; # fix some other interperter issues.. cd demo @@ -63,9 +63,9 @@ mv Event.3pm.new Event.3pm rm -rf %{buildroot} make pure_install PERL_INSTALL_ROOT=%{buildroot} -find %{buildroot} -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} + -find %{buildroot} -type f -name '*.bs' -a -size 0 -exec rm -f {} + -find %{buildroot} -type d -depth -exec rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty {} + +find %{buildroot} -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} \; +find %{buildroot} -type f -name '*.bs' -a -size 0 -exec rm -f {} \; +find %{buildroot} -type d -depth -exec rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty {} \; %{_fixperms} %{buildroot}/* @@ -88,6 +88,9 @@ rm -rf %{buildroot} %changelog +* Fri Nov 13 2009 Steve Traylen steve.tray...@cern.ch 1.13-1 +- New upstream version 1.13 +- Add BR of groff, needed for EPEL4. * Tue Sep 01 2009 Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 1.12-1 - add perl_default_filter - auto-update to 1.12 (by cpan-spec-update 0.01) Index: sources === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Event/EL-4/sources,v retrieving revision 1.7 retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -p -r1.7 -r1.8 --- sources 1 Sep 2009 07:55:12 - 1.7 +++ sources 13 Nov 2009 20:08:29 - 1.8 @@ -1 +1 @@ -f09285ef0388be739fbb83bc3a221977 Event-1.12.tar.gz +88cf5bb6b4b06e016072a5ff2ff8fa1a Event-1.13.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list