Re: Wodim trouble
On 11/03/2009 03:08 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: Josephine Tannhäuserjosephine.tannhau...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/11/3, Joerg Schillingjoerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de: Josephine Tannhäuserjosephine.tannhau...@googlemail.com wrote: It seems that you have not been there. I was there and I was shocked about your behavior. Fortunately, you are of limited relevance and other people did not behave hostile but friendly ;-) Jörg Yeah, good way to expect any collaboration with that attitude. Keep up the good work. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Anaconda multiple Ethernet cards question
Today while installing F11 from DVD, I noticed something : if one has multiple Ethernet cards in his/her computer, if booting with 'asknetwork', when it comes to configuring the network you are greeted with eth0 : MAC address and below eth1 : MAC address. I think it would be niftier if the identification string of the card was printed also (eg VIA Rhine III) so people would know what card to choose and how. Thanks, -- Aioanei Rares scha...@fedoraproject.org China is a big country, inhabited by many Chinese. --Charles de Gaulle -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 Snapshot 1 available
Bill Nottingham wrote: Fedora 12 Snapshot 1 is now available for testing. These snapshots consist of live images only. Available at http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/: Fedora 12 Live Snapshot 1, for i686 and x86_64 Fedora 12 Live KDE Snapshot 1, for i686 and x86_64 Available at http://spins.fedoraproject.org/: Fedora 12 Live LXDE Snapshot 1, for i686 and x86_64 Fedora 12 Live XFCE Snapshot 1, for i686 Please report issues in bugzilla. Bill I changed the liveuser by pressing alt+F3 and logging in as root, but after login in kdm I get Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation.. And prelink is not available. :-) This is a kvm virtual machine. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 Snapshot 1 available
Bill Nottingham wrote: Fedora 12 Snapshot 1 is now available for testing. These snapshots consist of live images only. Available at http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/: Fedora 12 Live Snapshot 1, for i686 and x86_64 Fedora 12 Live KDE Snapshot 1, for i686 and x86_64 Available at http://spins.fedoraproject.org/: Fedora 12 Live LXDE Snapshot 1, for i686 and x86_64 Fedora 12 Live XFCE Snapshot 1, for i686 Please report issues in bugzilla. Bill what's the password for liveuser? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Some ideas/questions about yum
On 08/28/2009 01:27 PM, Hedayat Vatnakhah wrote: Hi all, Currently, Fedora package management is one of the most annoying part of Fedora experience for new desktop users (at least for those without fast, always available internet connection). For such users, Fedora package management Just Doesn't Work! I've almost never been able to demonstrate using fedora package management tools for a fresh Fedora install without the need to use command line, editing yum configuration file(s), killing current running yum/package kit instance(s), installing some small rpm packages using rpm command instead of using yum or graphically, etc. And sometimes, I found it better to download yum metadata using another application and copying the downloaded file to yum cache; or even completely skip yum and use rpm and manually resolve dependencies when they are not too much! First, I've some suggestions/requests which doesn't seem to need much work, and then some ideas which I'd like to know your opinions about. 1. Since Fedora 4, Fedora doesn't support installing software from DVD out of the box. Fedora 8 is an exception here. Currently, it seems that the work is almost done (99% completed as in [1]), and fixing the remaining 1% doesn't seem to need much work but unfortunately it seems that it is stopped. I think requesting a small collaboration between the feature owner, PolicyKit and/or GIO people is not too much. 2. Maybe yum could be a bit more forgiving about inaccessible repositories when running. Consider this case: a new offline user installs Fedora, and then runs Add/Remove Software. Currently, if he clicks on all packages, he'll see an error message that yum is unable to contact fedora repository. I think it is better to show a warning to user about being unable to contact online repositories and then show all installed packages + the packages from all accessible repositories. IMHO it is much more reasonable than expecting the user to disable all such repositories in such cases (yum/packagekit can be a bit more intelligent and do it itslef). Now, some ideas: 3. AFAIK, currently yum's primary database file contains information about packages, and all of the files in directories such as /usr/bin and /usr/lib, so that it can resolve package and file level dependencies. Isn't it possible to move file level information outside primary db (e.g. to primary_file_deps.db) and translate internal dependencies from file level dependencies to package level dependencies when creating repositories? (So that provides and requires tables in primary db only contain package references rather than file references?). It might be even possible to do it for dependencies outside repository; for example when creating updates repository, you can introduce fedora repository to createrepo, so it can translate all of the file level dependencies of updates packages also. 4. Even if the above solution is possible and can reduce the size of primary db, it won't solve the main problem: for large repositories, you'll need to download large database files. You'll need to download extra database files on some use cases anyway. So, it can be said that currently yum doesn't scale well. What do you think about it: we can implement parts of yum at the server side (e.g. a web service), and do queries online. The client can submit queries to online repositories, aggregate the results (+using local repositories by itself) and do appropriate actions. It can also store received data to be used when offline or while they are valid. It'll be completely backward compatible with the current clients: those who use the old method can download repositories themselves, like what they do now. It is possible to think about further details and design it completely, but I want to know about your opinions about the whole idea. [1] http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MediaRepo Thanks anyway, Hedayat Since it's idea time, I think it would be good for the user that uses yum to see in a listing (like yum search $whatever) to see the status of the package, like installed, not installed, virtual package et al. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Some ideas/questions about yum
Oh, and speaking of anaconda, IMHO it should support DSL configuration when using asknetwork. DSL is popular these days. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Prelink and kdeinit4 problems persist(Rawhide)
There was a thread more than a month ago about kdeinit4 failing to start before one did as root a 'prelink -f /usr/bin/kdeinit4'. Well the problem is still here. Anyone knows anything? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora and Atheros L2
On 08/17/2009 03:55 PM, Jos Vos wrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me if the Atheros L2 (wired) Ethernet controller is standard supported in F11 (and if yes, of there are any known issues with it)? Thanks, -- --Jos Vosj...@xos.nl --X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 --Amsterdam, The Netherlands| Fax: +31 20 6948204 AFAIK, the F11 kernels support Attansic L2 NIC's. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Please support nouveau tag request
On 08/08/2009 05:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: I have filed a tag request: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/2071 to get xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.15-2.20090805git712064e.fc12 into the alpha, because a mailing list thread and two bug reports lead me to believe it's needed for nouveau to actually work. At the time of the xorg-x11-server 125 breakage which is known, nouveau reporters reported X stopping working just like everyone else, but they seem to need the updated nouveau _as well as_ the update xorg-x11-server packages to make things work again. Just updating xorg-x11-server does not do the trick. Anyone with Rawhide and an NVIDIA video card, if you could confirm the request, that'd be great. Thanks! +1 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Kernel built from source stuck during boot
Markus Kesaromous wrote: Dear list, I installed kernel 2.6.29.6-213 from source rpm. I did not build it via rpmbuild. Rather, I first ran rpmbuild -v -bp kernel.spec then I cd'ed to BUILD/kernel-2.6.29/linux-2.6.29.i586 I configured it (make xconfig) and built it - make all. Build went witout a hitch. Ditto with Install and modules_install. At bootup, it quickly scrolls through some output of probed devices and seems to stop there. No gui. No login prompt. The KB driver does respond to keyboard key strokes. But other than that, nothing. My machine is a UP, AMD Athlon64 (but I compile only for 32 bit). In xconfig, I disabled all SMP stuff. I set the frequency governor to Performance, among other things (such as enabling rt2860 driver in the staging area). Would someone on this list be able to have a look at the .config file and tell me what is missing or mis-configured? Not sure if I should attach the config file here, or send it as an attachment to someone who is willing to have look and get back to me. Please advise. Cheers, MK _ Get free photo software from Windows Live http://www.windowslive.com/online/photos?ocid=PID23393::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_PH_software:082009 You may attach it here. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Kernel built from source stuck during boot
Markus Kesaromous wrote: Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:15:49 +0300 From: scha...@gmail.com To: fedora-devel-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Kernel built from source stuck during boot Markus Kesaromous wrote: Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 14:22:38 +0300 From: scha...@gmail.com To: fedora-devel-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Kernel built from source stuck during boot Markus Kesaromous wrote: Dear list, I installed kernel 2.6.29.6-213 from source rpm. I did not build it via rpmbuild. Rather, I first ran rpmbuild -v -bp kernel.spec then I cd'ed to BUILD/kernel-2.6.29/linux-2.6.29.i586 I configured it (make xconfig) and built it - make all. Build went witout a hitch. Ditto with Install and modules_install. At bootup, it quickly scrolls through some output of probed devices and seems to stop there. No gui. No login prompt. The KB driver does respond to keyboard key strokes. But other than that, nothing. My machine is a UP, AMD Athlon64 (but I compile only for 32 bit). In xconfig, I disabled all SMP stuff. I set the frequency governor to Performance, among other things (such as enabling rt2860 driver in the staging area). Would someone on this list be able to have a look at the .config file and tell me what is missing or mis-configured? Not sure if I should attach the config file here, or send it as an attachment to someone who is willing to have look and get back to me. Please advise. Cheers, MK _ Get free photo software from Windows Live http://www.windowslive.com/online/photos?ocid=PID23393::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_PH_software:082009 You may attach it here. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list .config.bz2 attached. Thanx!! MK _ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCBpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 It may help if you can specify exactly at what point does your booting process stop. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list It stops after it displays the USB keyboard and mouse devices (per console output). The keyboard is responsive when it hangs. The driver echoes whatever I type. But no other effects are evident from typing. For example ^C simply echoes ^C. After waiting about 30 minutes, I had to Ctrl-Alt-Del to reboot. Thank you for your help. MK _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=PID23384::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:NF_BR_sync:082009 Try unplugging them (the usb keyboard and mouse) by using ps/2 peripherals and see if that occurs again and where, please. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: RFE: FireKit
On 07/24/2009 01:01 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Ahmed Kamal on 07/23/2009 04:54 PM wrote: Exactly the point, the user shares his desktop, or starts some service using the services GUI, and FireKit should offer to help. Moreover, this actually would improve desktop security, since without FireKit, a typical user after wasting half an hour, would understand it was the firewall blocking him, and would simply disable it for good. This happens on any OS. However, with FireKit, pro-actively offering to help the user, and requesting by default a limited time-window for opening the ports, actually ensures a better desktop security The user should simply be prompted: Do you want Vino Remote Desktop to be allowed network access? (Yes or No) That's if the port is not already open. FireKit, or something like it, has been needed for a long time. The user experience for everyone will be greatly improved. It's great you are starting this initiative. I hope you are able to get something out of it. But of course python ;) Great, so it'll be just as slow as all the other system administration tools. The folks involved with system-config-* may not notice it, but on slightly older systems (say, P4 generation) the firewall tool or services tool takes ages to start. Easily 30 seconds to a minute. Thanks Python. I tend to agree here. Maybe C++ would be a far better option (biased, of course :) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: RFE: FireKit
On 07/23/2009 09:16 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Hi, Here's a RFE for FireKit, a firewall desktop kit. What this does is: 1- Exposes a dbus interface for applications to programatically open/close ports 2- Monitors as new daemons/applications that listen on non lo interfaces are started, checks if iptables is currently blocking them, and if so, warns the user that application X is currently blocked by the firewall User Experience: === 1- Joe wants some help from his co-worker, he shares his Gnome desktop through vino. Vino kicks FireKit to ask Joe if he would like to open port 5900, and asks for a period of time. Joe selects yes, and chooses 30 minutes. FireKit instructs iptables to open that port, and waits for 30 mins. 2- Sally wants to share last night's photos with her team. She drops the photos in /var/www/html, and starts apache. While apache does not know about FireKit, FireKit still detects that port 80 is now listening on 0.0.0.0, FireKit pops a notification that process apache is listening on port 80, and is being blocked by the firewall. FireKit asks Sally if she'd like to open port 80, and for how long. Sally accepts and chooses 5 hours I'm no hot shot developer, so I am not quite sure about which architecture is best, or details about integration with policy-kit, however, this seems to me like a really missing integration point on the free desktop front. Comments and opinions are welcome. Regards To me it seems like a great idea, but your usual computer user does not really know about Apache and ports, IP's and the like. Other than that, if you need help, ask. What language do you intend to implement this in? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Chromium-3.0.195 fails to start
On 07/20/2009 10:37 AM, 梁穗隆 wrote: I download and install the latest rpm of chromium-3.0.195. But it fails to start. It shows us that things in gnome-terminal: [fed...@fedora-desktop disk]$ chromium-browser /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser: Symbol `SSL_ImplementedCiphers' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking [21121:21121:2856690408:FATAL:/mnt/chromium/rpmbuild/BUILD/chromium-20090716svn20889/src/app/gfx/font_skia.cc(90)] Check failed: tf. Could not find font: WenQuanYi Zen Hei Could not detect where Chinese fonts stays? In the older version, the error does not appear. My Fedora is Fedora 10 i386. The error also appear on Fedora 11 x86_64. Another things, chromium-3.0.195 add a new dependency: nss-mdns. I hope the bug will be fixed soon. -- urlhttp://liangsuilong.co.cc/url Fight for freedom(3F） Ask not what your Linux distro can do for you! Ask what you can do for your Linux distro! AFAIK, there is a problem with nss-mdns; check bugzilla.redhat.com for that. An update will likely fix this. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
