Re: Installing F12-Beta

2009-11-02 Thread Steven James Drinnan
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 09:16 +0100, Michal Schmidt wrote:
 OK, thanks for the link. I put a reply there. Bugzilla is a better
 place 
 to discuss specific bugs than fedora-devel-list.
 
 Thank you for testing the Beta release.
 Michal

Ok and thanks a lot



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Installing F12-Beta

2009-11-01 Thread Steven James Drinnan
I have already submitted a bug report for this but it seems no one is
looking into it. 

This is the problem. 

I have a 2.53 celeron with 1gb of Ram nvidia 5500 graphics card. 

When I put in the DVD (Install or Live) it starts but then I get a
recursive error saying that it fixed but needs a restart. Of course when
I restart the problem still persists.


Please tell what you need to point in the right direction to fix this
very serious issue.

Thanks 

Steven


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Re: Installing F12-Beta

2009-11-01 Thread Steven James Drinnan
I did check and I used the same DVD to install on to a flash drive
through my laptop.
That drive boots on most other computers but not the Celeron PC.


Steven
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 08:40 +0800, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote:
 Hi,
 
  When I put in the DVD (Install or Live) it starts but then I get a
  recursive error saying that it fixed but needs a restart. Of course when
  I restart the problem still persists.
 
 
  Please tell what you need to point in the right direction to fix this
  very serious issue.
 
 Just to be sure, you did verify the ISO before burning it (with the
 SHA1SUM) and when booting it ?
 
 
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Re: Installing F12-Beta

2009-11-01 Thread Steven James Drinnan
David why you are so upset? No need to get nasty. I simply posted a
message about my problems installing F12. I did not Hijack any thread
(see the subject name). I thought this was a public forum. I sent this
to the whole mailing list. My apologies if I offended you. 

All I can tell you is what happened. 

Which is I put the DVD in the drive and after a while it came up with a
recursive error and said it was fixed but needed to restart the
computer. 

I.E 1. The kernel failed to load
2. Anaconda did not start.

The same DVD was used to install F12 Beta on a flash drive. So the DVD
is fine.

As I said I have posted a bug report at bugzilla
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531156) but no reply. I
just thought you guys would be interested in a very serious problem that
I am having.

So I willing to put the effort to help whoever, if you point me in the
right direction.

Steven

On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 07:21 +, David Woodhouse wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 08:29 +0800, Steven James Drinnan wrote:
  In-reply-to: 1257111085.2314.154.ca...@adam.local.net
  References: adf480660910311031h5889985by4fb8d4ac7f342...@mail.gmail.com
  1257111085.2314.154.ca...@adam.local.net
 
 Steven, please could you explain the relationship between your message
 on 'Installing F12-Beta' and the message to which you replied, which was
 about upstream developers becoming co-maintainers.
 
 If there is no relationship, then you've just hijacked an existing
 thread by posting your unrelated query as a reply to it -- please don't
 do that.
 



 You may also find that you'll get more help if you provide a more
 coherent bug report. You neglected to give any useful details about the
 error you see. Giving the full error message might have helped. Or even
 telling us at which stage of the boot it happens might have given a
 clue.
 
 I'd look in the bug you filed to see if you provided that information
 there... but you didn't even bother to tell us the bug number.
 
 My crystal ball isn't working today, so I _couldn't_ help you, even if I
 _didn't_ have a policy of not helping thread-hijackers until they post
 their problem politely ;)
 


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Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-19 Thread Steven James Drinnan


 
On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 12:30 +0200, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote:
 
 
 2009/10/16 Steven James Drinnan ste...@scc.hk
 I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the
 dialogs said.
 
 (Check Box) F*** off
 
 No lie,
 
 So how does one recommend that this be removed.
 
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 the word fuck is in many sourcecodes. Mostly as comment.
 Do you think, that we should remove these comments too?

Short answer yes, should we as programmers need to use such language.

 
 Btw. It's harder to see the word fuck in some spec-files!
 
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Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-19 Thread Steven James Drinnan
Wow this has really hit sore point, It just goes to show that there pro
and cons on both sides. 

Like or not people want the ability to filter content that that deem
unfit.


Thats why I asked about it in the first place the concern was simple, I
have young children and I installed a screamingly innocent package. That
had foul language. Some of may not be too concerned but it does put
Fedora's rep in question.



A user/parent/employer should be able to restrict what content is
allowed or not allowed. 

And what is the best way to accomplish this. 

Well any ideas, for me Package Kit would be the way to go. Then users
could add the packages or groups to the exclude list. Maybe an extra
password (optional) for parents / supervisors.

Or like was mentioned  a way to create a YUM exclude list. 

Stop this bickering lets try and solve an issue.

Steven


On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 11:47 +1000, Eric Springer wrote: 
 On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ismael Olea ism...@olea.org wrote:
  My 0.02€
 
 More like your troll-cents. Despite the absurdity (of this whole
 thing, in fact) I've added a category and included it. And people can
 make up their own minds.
 


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Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-18 Thread Steven James Drinnan
On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 09:35 +1000, Eric Springer wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Steven James Drinnan ste...@scc.hk wrote:
  I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the dialogs said.
 
 Not sure if it's the best road to take, how ever I've created a page
 in the wiki (that can be edited mercilessly or deleted if you think
 it'll just attract attention):
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Offensive_Packages
 

A good start, yes I agree that fedora is about freedom and choice. For
me this seems a good option ( having an exclude function for offensive
packages). Making this part of package kit would be good. Almost like a
parental control system for software. 

I do think as distributor it is good to be family friendly as possible.

Maybe this could be added as a feature in future releases -  there may
not be many packages that need to be added but it would give a big group
of users some peace of mind.

Steven Drinnan


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Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Steven James Drinnan
I will file  a ticket.

But my point was the image of Fedora.Does Fedora want be associated with
software vendors that use this type of language?

Steven


On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 07:31 +0200, Haïkel Guémar wrote:
 Le 16/10/2009 06:58, Steven James Drinnan a écrit :
  I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the dialogs said.
  
  (Check Box) F*** off 
  
  No lie, 
  
  So how does one recommend that this be removed.
  
  Steven
  
 
 File a ticket upstream.
 The string itself is in the .glade file, since it's a translatable
 string, removing it brutally would not be wise. Anyway, it seems to
 entertain most gestikk users. :)
 
 H.
 


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Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-16 Thread Steven James Drinnan
I will file  a ticket.

But my point was the image of Fedora.Does Fedora want be associated with
software vendors that use this type of language?

Steven


On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 07:31 +0200, Haïkel Guémar wrote:
 Le 16/10/2009 06:58, Steven James Drinnan a écrit :
  I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the dialogs said.
  
  (Check Box) F*** off 
  
  No lie, 
  
  So how does one recommend that this be removed.
  
  Steven
  
 
 File a ticket upstream.
 The string itself is in the .glade file, since it's a translatable
 string, removing it brutally would not be wise. Anyway, it seems to
 entertain most gestikk users. :)
 
 H.
 


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Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-15 Thread Steven James Drinnan
I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the dialogs said.

(Check Box) F*** off 

No lie, 

So how does one recommend that this be removed.

Steven


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Re: yum-presto plugin by default

2009-08-18 Thread Steven James Drinnan
I would hold off on the default thing. 

I have found that it has played havoc with intel video drivers and
NetworkManager. I do not know how but for me it was a pain in the neck.

All I know is that after I re-installed and upgraded I have had no
problems

-1 to installing it by default in F12.

Steven

On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 22:40 +0100, Christopher Brown wrote:
 2009/8/18 Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu:
  On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 01:35:37AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
  On 07/26/2009 06:40 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Can we make it a default in comps for Rawhide?
  
   Rahul
 
  No answer here after weeks.
 
  After some lengthy discussion with rel-eng team in irc, not much care
  either way. Talked to desktop team and based on their recommendation, I
  have added yum-presto to the GNOME Desktop group by default.
 
  If rel-eng wants to add it a base group for the DVD image, feel free to
  do so. Spin owners - likewise. Thanks.
 
  I've been using yum-presto since before F11 came out, and it is great.
  +1 to installing it by default in F12.
 
 FWIW, I have also experienced zero problems with it and believe it
 would be better enabled by default, retaining the option to disable.
 Updates would get done faster and mirrors would be able to cope with
 more connections, especially in the first push after release day... :)
 
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