Re: [SoaS] Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro
On 11/17/2009 04:17 PM, Stewart Adam wrote: > On 2009/11/16 10:56 AM, Peter Jones wrote: >> On 11/11/2009 01:30 AM, Stewart Adam wrote: >>> On 2009/11/10 5:41 PM, Peter Jones wrote: On 11/10/2009 05:37 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > > Hi, > > My MacBook is a 4,1. Will it work on my machine? A 64-bit EFI image should work on a MacBook4,1 . A 32-bit EFI image won't. >>> >>> If the silver MBP is also a 4,1 model, there may be complications... >>> There are some video initialization problems [1] when booting EFI >>> kernels. >>> >>> Stewart >>> >>> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496134 >> >> Yeah. If somebody had one of these machines at FudCon in Toronto, I >> could probably knock this out in relatively short time. > > I know that it can be harder to debug if you're not at the machine, but > if I can provide you with any info I'll be happy to do so - just let me > know what I need to do. There's nothing to /debug/. Somebody needs to figure out where the framebuffer is and what it's dimensions are, and then it needs to be added to the table. -- Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [SoaS] Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro
On 2009/11/16 10:56 AM, Peter Jones wrote: On 11/11/2009 01:30 AM, Stewart Adam wrote: On 2009/11/10 5:41 PM, Peter Jones wrote: On 11/10/2009 05:37 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi, My MacBook is a 4,1. Will it work on my machine? A 64-bit EFI image should work on a MacBook4,1 . A 32-bit EFI image won't. If the silver MBP is also a 4,1 model, there may be complications... There are some video initialization problems [1] when booting EFI kernels. Stewart [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496134 Yeah. If somebody had one of these machines at FudCon in Toronto, I could probably knock this out in relatively short time. I know that it can be harder to debug if you're not at the machine, but if I can provide you with any info I'll be happy to do so - just let me know what I need to do. Stewart -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [SoaS] Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro
On 11/11/2009 01:30 AM, Stewart Adam wrote: > On 2009/11/10 5:41 PM, Peter Jones wrote: >> On 11/10/2009 05:37 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> My MacBook is a 4,1. Will it work on my machine? >> >> A 64-bit EFI image should work on a MacBook4,1 . A 32-bit EFI image >> won't. >> > > If the silver MBP is also a 4,1 model, there may be complications... > There are some video initialization problems [1] when booting EFI kernels. > > Stewart > > [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496134 Yeah. If somebody had one of these machines at FudCon in Toronto, I could probably knock this out in relatively short time. -- Peter In computing, turning the obvious into the useful is a living definition of the word "frustration" -- Alan Perlis -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [SoaS] Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro
On 2009/11/10 5:41 PM, Peter Jones wrote: On 11/10/2009 05:37 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi, My MacBook is a 4,1. Will it work on my machine? A 64-bit EFI image should work on a MacBook4,1 . A 32-bit EFI image won't. If the silver MBP is also a 4,1 model, there may be complications... There are some video initialization problems [1] when booting EFI kernels. Stewart [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496134 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro
El Tue, 10-11-2009 a las 15:31 -0500, Caroline Meeks escribió: > Are you sure you macbook pro is capable of booting linux? I was > experimenting at a Apple Store and found that the White Macbooks there > were not capable of booting Linux from a CD, let alone Sugar from a > Stick. However the Silver Macbook pros booted both fine. White > macbooks at the GPA have the same issue. Older white macbooks at the > Lilla Fredrick boot fine. So things can be very odd with Macs. Next Saturday I'll bring a few boot CDs of Fedora and Ubuntu to see if I can manage to make them boot on those silver Mac Book Pros. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 22:25 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm creating an EFI bootable USB image on my rawhide system with this > > command-line: > > > > ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --format --efi --overlay-size-mb 400 \ > >--delete-home --extra-kernel-args selinux=0 ./soas04.iso /dev/sdb1 You need to pass the device, not the partition. > > The resulting USB stick boots fine on a black MacBook, but not on > > a silver MacBook Pro. > > > > The bootable stick does not even show up in the list of boot devices. > > I think there's some bugs with booting EFI devices in the various live > device (cd/usb) creation tools. The latest rawhide (released in the > last day or two) has an updated liveusb-creator which fixes alot of > the EFI issues, and a new livecd-tools I think is due soon. If you don't even see the USB hard disk when booting up, then it probably isn't formatted with GPT. Use --format on /dev/sdb. If it shows up but ends up booting another OS, then your EFI/boot/boot*.conf isn't updated, and you might have hit: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533824 Let me know if the patch works. And as Peter's mentioned, if your device supports x86_64, you need an x86_64 image, and the same for 32-bit. Note that I'm not sure how those are generated, but you should be able to boot a 32-bit distro as long as you have a bootx64.conf and bootx64.efi in /EFI/boot on the USB key. Cheers -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [SoaS] Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro
On 11/10/2009 05:37 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > > Hi, > > My MacBook is a 4,1. Will it work on my machine? A 64-bit EFI image should work on a MacBook4,1 . A 32-bit EFI image won't. -- Peter RFC 882 put the dots in .com. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Hello, > > I'm creating an EFI bootable USB image on my rawhide system with this > command-line: > > ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --format --efi --overlay-size-mb 400 \ > --delete-home --extra-kernel-args selinux=0 ./soas04.iso /dev/sdb1 > > The resulting USB stick boots fine on a black MacBook, but not on > a silver MacBook Pro. > > The bootable stick does not even show up in the list of boot devices. I think there's some bugs with booting EFI devices in the various live device (cd/usb) creation tools. The latest rawhide (released in the last day or two) has an updated liveusb-creator which fixes alot of the EFI issues, and a new livecd-tools I think is due soon. Cheers, Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro
On 11/10/2009 03:49 PM, John Reiser wrote: >> pre-Santa Rosa mac will only boot 32-bit EFI images, >> and post-Santa Rosa macs will only boot 64-bit EFI images. > > Also, it is only recently that a Mac might boot from USB2.0 at all; > Firewire (IEEE 1394) was required for most of Apple history. All EFI macs can do this. -- Peter RFC 882 put the dots in .com. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro
Hi. On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:49:17 -0800, John Reiser wrote > Also, it is only recently that a Mac might boot from USB2.0 at all; > Firewire (IEEE 1394) was required for most of Apple history. My old iBook G3 booted from USB. That was USB1.1, though, which may or may not be significant. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro
pre-Santa Rosa mac will only boot 32-bit EFI images, and post-Santa Rosa macs will only boot 64-bit EFI images. Also, it is only recently that a Mac might boot from USB2.0 at all; Firewire (IEEE 1394) was required for most of Apple history. -- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro
On 11/10/2009 02:40 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Hello, > > I'm creating an EFI bootable USB image on my rawhide system with this > command-line: > > ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --format --efi --overlay-size-mb 400 \ > --delete-home --extra-kernel-args selinux=0 ./soas04.iso /dev/sdb1 > > The resulting USB stick boots fine on a black MacBook, but not on > a silver MacBook Pro. > > The bootable stick does not even show up in the list of boot devices. Which generation of MBP and MBP, and are you using the i386 tree or the x86_64 tree? It sounds like the MacBook is a Santa Rosa (MacBook3,1) or later and the MacBook Pro is an earlier generation, and you're using x86_64. Or vice-versa regarding the ages, and you're using the i386 tree. This won't work, as pre-Santa Rosa mac will only boot 32-bit EFI images, and post-Santa Rosa macs will only boot 64-bit EFI images. -- Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro
Hello, I'm creating an EFI bootable USB image on my rawhide system with this command-line: ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --format --efi --overlay-size-mb 400 \ --delete-home --extra-kernel-args selinux=0 ./soas04.iso /dev/sdb1 The resulting USB stick boots fine on a black MacBook, but not on a silver MacBook Pro. The bootable stick does not even show up in the list of boot devices. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
