Re: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 03:56:32PM -0400, Ben Boeckel wrote: Actually, the only things that the jQuery test page[1] says that Konqueror (4.2.4) is failing at are: 31. core module: append(String|Element|ArrayElement|jQuery) 7. Check for appending text with spaces 137. ajax module: jQuery.post(String, Hash, Function) - simple with xml 3. Expected 4 assertions, but 2 were run 197. fx module: Chain hide show 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 198. fx module: Chain show hide 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 199. fx module: Chain toggle in 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 200. fx module: Chain toggle out 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 201. fx module: Chain slideUp slideDown 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 202. fx module: Chain slideDown slideUp 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 203. fx module: Chain slideToggle in 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 204. fx module: Chain slideToggle out 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible The first two seem like bugs (137 looks fixed as of 4.2.98), the last bunch like not-implemented-yet. I assume the Chain stuff is used to load/show the panels and such in the work area (pardon the ignorance of any official jargon). So once the Chain stuff is implemented, I imagine Konq should work (unless there are things that the test page doesn't test for). - --Ben [1] http://jquery.com/test Filing Konqueror-related Fedora Community bugs at this time seems pointless until this test suite passes. I spoke with the jQuery author recently and Konqueror problems are completely off their radar. We need some people who care about this browser to step up and work with jQuery upstream to improve it. luke -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC
- Ben Boeckel maths...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 07/29/2009 11:12 AM, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/7/29 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: The link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community doesn't seem to work with konqueror. Just says 'loading' and nothing happens. Works in firefox. Confirmed with Konqueror 4.2.98 Hmm. How to put this nicely... Konqueror is a terrible web browser. Use something else. If you want a more detailed answer, it is that konqueror doesn't properly support javascript, specifically, jquery. See: http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4362 http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4725 http://docs.jquery.com/Browser_Compatibility ~spot Actually, the only things that the jQuery test page[1] says that Konqueror (4.2.4) is failing at are: 31. core module: append(String|Element|ArrayElement|jQuery) 7. Check for appending text with spaces 137. ajax module: jQuery.post(String, Hash, Function) - simple with xml 3. Expected 4 assertions, but 2 were run 197. fx module: Chain hide show 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 198. fx module: Chain show hide 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 199. fx module: Chain toggle in 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 200. fx module: Chain toggle out 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 201. fx module: Chain slideUp slideDown 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 202. fx module: Chain slideDown slideUp 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 203. fx module: Chain slideToggle in 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 204. fx module: Chain slideToggle out 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible The first two seem like bugs (137 looks fixed as of 4.2.98), the last bunch like not-implemented-yet. I assume the Chain stuff is used to load/show the panels and such in the work area (pardon the ignorance of any official jargon). So once the Chain stuff is implemented, I imagine Konq should work (unless there are things that the test page doesn't test for). - --Ben [1] http://jquery.com/test I also hit resource limits when using regexp. That being said if there are easy ways to debug in Konq I am willing to take a look at issues in my own code once the JQuery tests are passed. If the devs want to make FComm a sort of test site for AJAX, I am willing to work with them. -- John (J5) Palmieri Software Engineer Red Hat, Inc. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Palmieri wrote: - Ben Boeckel maths...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 07/29/2009 11:12 AM, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/7/29 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: The link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community doesn't seem to work with konqueror. Just says 'loading' and nothing happens. Works in firefox. Confirmed with Konqueror 4.2.98 Hmm. How to put this nicely... Konqueror is a terrible web browser. Use something else. If you want a more detailed answer, it is that konqueror doesn't properly support javascript, specifically, jquery. See: http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4362 http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4725 http://docs.jquery.com/Browser_Compatibility ~spot Actually, the only things that the jQuery test page[1] says that Konqueror (4.2.4) is failing at are: 31. core module: append(String|Element|ArrayElement|jQuery) 7. Check for appending text with spaces 137. ajax module: jQuery.post(String, Hash, Function) - simple with xml 3. Expected 4 assertions, but 2 were run 197. fx module: Chain hide show 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 198. fx module: Chain show hide 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 199. fx module: Chain toggle in 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 200. fx module: Chain toggle out 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 201. fx module: Chain slideUp slideDown 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 202. fx module: Chain slideDown slideUp 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 203. fx module: Chain slideToggle in 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 204. fx module: Chain slideToggle out 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible The first two seem like bugs (137 looks fixed as of 4.2.98), the last bunch like not-implemented-yet. I assume the Chain stuff is used to load/show the panels and such in the work area (pardon the ignorance of any official jargon). So once the Chain stuff is implemented, I imagine Konq should work (unless there are things that the test page doesn't test for). - --Ben [1] http://jquery.com/test I also hit resource limits when using regexp. That being said if there are easy ways to debug in Konq I am willing to take a look at issues in my own code once the JQuery tests are passed. If the devs want to make FComm a sort of test site for AJAX, I am willing to work with them. -- John (J5) Palmieri Software Engineer Red Hat, Inc. Thanks. Unfortunately I don't know of any way to debug in Konqueror (I don't usually develop websites and if I do, they're basically text files). I'll cross-post to kfm-devel so that the Konqueror developers also get it. - --Ben -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkpx88IACgkQiPi+MRHG3qTKjACggXnlBlZOxmBHBBpvrSQHgNk0 7y4An2WlB+bQOTe+NDQsnLSG+OYAe/GM =BeKW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC
On 07/30/2009 11:58 AM, Luke Macken wrote: The last time I tested Konqueror with Fedora Community, it choked on something like $f = $(f), where f is an html fragment. Did you file a bug on Konqueror? -Bill -- Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Cell: 603.252.2606 Twitter, etc.: bill_mcgonigle Page: 603.442.1833 Email, IM, VOIP: b...@bfccomputing.com Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC
The link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community doesn't seem to work with konqueror. Just says 'loading' and nothing happens. Works in firefox. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC
On 07/29/2009 11:12 AM, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/7/29 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: The link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community doesn't seem to work with konqueror. Just says 'loading' and nothing happens. Works in firefox. Confirmed with Konqueror 4.2.98 Hmm. How to put this nicely... Konqueror is a terrible web browser. Use something else. If you want a more detailed answer, it is that konqueror doesn't properly support javascript, specifically, jquery. See: http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4362 http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4725 http://docs.jquery.com/Browser_Compatibility ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 07/29/2009 11:12 AM, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/7/29 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: The link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community doesn't seem to work with konqueror. Just says 'loading' and nothing happens. Works in firefox. Confirmed with Konqueror 4.2.98 Hmm. How to put this nicely... Konqueror is a terrible web browser. Use something else. I find it much nicer than Firefox (integration with Firefox is...umm...nonexistent here), but it's choice anyways. /flame- war (before one starts). If you want a more detailed answer, it is that konqueror doesn't properly support javascript, specifically, jquery. See: http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4362 http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4725 http://docs.jquery.com/Browser_Compatibility ~spot If the Community devteam could file bugs against Konqueror and then notify the KDE-SIG about them, we can track bugs and such. Is there a test page somewhere (similar to ACID)? FWIW, 4.2.98 seems to be improved, but still not there. Arora is apparently better to (from Rex, I don't use it). - --Ben -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkpwoxMACgkQiPi+MRHG3qRJmwCfbXHP9kJWLWFLhbUP7l4P6tLD RTAAnRifvheD/eI3A4qE0dftBBCGVu6J =KfX4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 07/29/2009 11:12 AM, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/7/29 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: The link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community doesn't seem to work with konqueror. Just says 'loading' and nothing happens. Works in firefox. Confirmed with Konqueror 4.2.98 Hmm. How to put this nicely... Konqueror is a terrible web browser. Use something else. If you want a more detailed answer, it is that konqueror doesn't properly support javascript, specifically, jquery. See: http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4362 http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4725 http://docs.jquery.com/Browser_Compatibility ~spot Actually, the only things that the jQuery test page[1] says that Konqueror (4.2.4) is failing at are: 31. core module: append(String|Element|ArrayElement|jQuery) 7. Check for appending text with spaces 137. ajax module: jQuery.post(String, Hash, Function) - simple with xml 3. Expected 4 assertions, but 2 were run 197. fx module: Chain hide show 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 198. fx module: Chain show hide 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 199. fx module: Chain toggle in 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 200. fx module: Chain toggle out 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 201. fx module: Chain slideUp slideDown 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 202. fx module: Chain slideDown slideUp 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 203. fx module: Chain slideToggle in 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible 204. fx module: Chain slideToggle out 5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible The first two seem like bugs (137 looks fixed as of 4.2.98), the last bunch like not-implemented-yet. I assume the Chain stuff is used to load/show the panels and such in the work area (pardon the ignorance of any official jargon). So once the Chain stuff is implemented, I imagine Konq should work (unless there are things that the test page doesn't test for). - --Ben [1] http://jquery.com/test -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkpwqXAACgkQiPi+MRHG3qTeZgCdG21WwTwJyKgK2k/hDyLGMYVC 07wAnROMMFp2Nom4fH3i0fdrASuaAjtf =r52Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC
On 07/29/2009 01:28 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote: of the two with no patches landed: http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4362 this one lacks a konqueror bug report, or at least link. at: http://code.jquery.com/jquery-nightly.js select box val() handling seems to be done at, search for: // We need to handle select boxes special Somebody who uses either of jquery or konqueror ought to file. Fedora projects should support the browsers we ship when it's reasonable to do so. I noticed Konqueror is supposed to emit JavaScript debugging on the console, but none of the jquery test cases cause any such output. -Bill -- Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Cell: 603.252.2606 Twitter, etc.: bill_mcgonigle Page: 603.442.1833 Email, IM, VOIP: b...@bfccomputing.com Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC
2009/7/29 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com: On 07/29/2009 11:12 AM, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/7/29 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: The link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community doesn't seem to work with konqueror. Just says 'loading' and nothing happens. Works in firefox. Confirmed with Konqueror 4.2.98 Hmm. How to put this nicely... Konqueror is a terrible web browser. Use something else. I do, i use chromium ;P Thanks by the way for your repo, much appreciated. I just confirmed it for the OP so he knows it really doesn't work and is no missconfiguration on his side. -- LG Thomas Dubium sapientiae initium -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC
For those of you who haven't no idea what Fedora Community is, its our newest Fedora web application, providing a window into the Fedora distribution, and leveraging the power of Fedora's Account System, Bodhi, Bugzilla, Koji, and PackageDB into a single user-friendly website. It is built entirely with Free Software, such as Moksha and Turbogears 2. Fedora Community is designed to simplify Fedora workflows and bring transparency to Fedora processes: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community What you see on that URL is our 1.0 milestone, but we already have lots of ideas on improvements and new functionality that we'd like to develop for our 2.0 release. So, we're going to have a public brainstorming session on Monday, August 3rd, 2009: * The session will be held at 1500 UTC (11 AM Eastern) (In addition, if there are enough interested international folks who cannot attend the session due to their timezone, please let me know, and we will try to schedule a future session that works for you) We're going to use a variety of ways to be involved: * IRC: #moksha on irc.freenode.net (we'll be watching and taking questions from the channel) * Gobby: We're going to keep our notes in Gobby, an open source collaboration tool. The name of our document is Fedora Community Brainstorm, see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/GobbyHowTo for information on how to connect * Telephone: This is where we'll be doing the talking. US Toll-Free: 800-451-8679 Conference Code: 22717 79826 (If you need an international dial-in number, please email me with your country, and I may be able to provide it.) Please be kind and mute your line if you're not asking a question. If the noise on the call becomes unbearable, I will mute everyone. :) Questions about the meeting? Email me. Questions about Fedora Community 2.0? Come to the brainstorming session! Can't make it to the session and want to suggest something? Login to Gobby and add it to our notes before the session. Thanks, Tom spot Callaway, Fedora Community Cat Herder ___ Fedora-devel-announce mailing list fedora-devel-annou...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
