Epiphany effectively orphaned

2009-08-12 Thread Adam Williamson
In the course of doing a bug report on Epiphany, it's come up that
Epiphany is effectively orphaned:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/epiphany

it is owned by gecko-maint, but since it's now based on Webkit, that
makes no sense, and I see no reason to expect the Gecko maintainers
group to care about Epiphany.

It seems like whoever controls the 'gecko-maint' group should formally
orphan Epiphany, and someone else should pick it up.

For reference, the bug I was reporting was
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516938 .

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Re: Epiphany effectively orphaned

2009-08-12 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 11:29 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> In the course of doing a bug report on Epiphany, it's come up that
> Epiphany is effectively orphaned:
> 
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/epiphany
> 
> it is owned by gecko-maint, but since it's now based on Webkit, that
> makes no sense, and I see no reason to expect the Gecko maintainers
> group to care about Epiphany.
> 
> It seems like whoever controls the 'gecko-maint' group should formally
> orphan Epiphany, and someone else should pick it up.
> 
> For reference, the bug I was reporting was
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516938 .
> 

I'd say you are making stuff up based on a throwaway comment of mine...

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Re: Epiphany effectively orphaned

2009-08-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 15:05 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 11:29 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > In the course of doing a bug report on Epiphany, it's come up that
> > Epiphany is effectively orphaned:
> > 
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/epiphany
> > 
> > it is owned by gecko-maint, but since it's now based on Webkit, that
> > makes no sense, and I see no reason to expect the Gecko maintainers
> > group to care about Epiphany.
> > 
> > It seems like whoever controls the 'gecko-maint' group should formally
> > orphan Epiphany, and someone else should pick it up.
> > 
> > For reference, the bug I was reporting was
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516938 .
> > 
> 
> I'd say you are making stuff up based on a throwaway comment of mine...

Making what up? How does it make sense for a project that's no longer
based on Gecko to be maintained by the Gecko maintainers group?

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Re: Epiphany effectively orphaned

2009-08-12 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 12:20 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 15:05 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 11:29 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > In the course of doing a bug report on Epiphany, it's come up that
> > > Epiphany is effectively orphaned:
> > > 
> > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/epiphany
> > > 
> > > it is owned by gecko-maint, but since it's now based on Webkit, that
> > > makes no sense, and I see no reason to expect the Gecko maintainers
> > > group to care about Epiphany.
> > > 
> > > It seems like whoever controls the 'gecko-maint' group should formally
> > > orphan Epiphany, and someone else should pick it up.
> > > 
> > > For reference, the bug I was reporting was
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516938 .
> > > 
> > 
> > I'd say you are making stuff up based on a throwaway comment of mine...
> 
> Making what up? How does it make sense for a project that's no longer
> based on Gecko to be maintained by the Gecko maintainers group?

Well, what you said was different, namely that it is not maintained at
all.

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Re: Epiphany effectively orphaned

2009-08-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 15:27 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 12:20 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 15:05 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 11:29 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > > In the course of doing a bug report on Epiphany, it's come up that
> > > > Epiphany is effectively orphaned:
> > > > 
> > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/epiphany
> > > > 
> > > > it is owned by gecko-maint, but since it's now based on Webkit, that
> > > > makes no sense, and I see no reason to expect the Gecko maintainers
> > > > group to care about Epiphany.
> > > > 
> > > > It seems like whoever controls the 'gecko-maint' group should formally
> > > > orphan Epiphany, and someone else should pick it up.
> > > > 
> > > > For reference, the bug I was reporting was
> > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516938 .
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I'd say you are making stuff up based on a throwaway comment of mine...
> > 
> > Making what up? How does it make sense for a project that's no longer
> > based on Gecko to be maintained by the Gecko maintainers group?
> 
> Well, what you said was different, namely that it is not maintained at
> all.

sorry, I meant 'orphaned' in the sense that its listed maintainer is no
longer appropriate - it needs to have the listed maintainer changed to
an appropriate person / group.

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Re: Epiphany effectively orphaned

2009-08-12 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
> sorry, I meant 'orphaned' in the sense that its listed maintainer is no
> longer appropriate - it needs to have the listed maintainer changed to
> an appropriate person / group.

Wouldn't that be to the current maintainer to say so?


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Re: Epiphany effectively orphaned

2009-08-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 21:37 +0200, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote:
> > sorry, I meant 'orphaned' in the sense that its listed maintainer is no
> > longer appropriate - it needs to have the listed maintainer changed to
> > an appropriate person / group.
> 
> Wouldn't that be to the current maintainer to say so?

sure, if the 'gecko-maint' group is happy to maintain a non-gecko
component, that's fine (though may look a bit confusing). I just wanted
to flag the issue up, as Epiphany is a quite important package (it's
GNOME's official browser, even if we ship Firefox on our 'desktop'
spin).

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Re: Epiphany effectively orphaned

2009-08-12 Thread Christopher Aillon

On 08/12/2009 11:29 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:

In the course of doing a bug report on Epiphany, it's come up that
Epiphany is effectively orphaned:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/epiphany

it is owned by gecko-maint, but since it's now based on Webkit, that
makes no sense, and I see no reason to expect the Gecko maintainers
group to care about Epiphany.


I wouldn't say it's orphaned, but perhaps we probably should change the 
owner on it.  For what its worth, the gecko group has done some WebKit 
related work in the not-so-distant past.


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