Re: F12 updates-testing issue: X flickers and fails to start

2009-12-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 12:20 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote:
 On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 18:36 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
  Linuxguy123 wrote:
   I have logged 2 bugs that are possibly related to this.
   
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528188
   
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525767
  
  Huh? One of these is a Nouveau bug, the other is a bug in the proprietary 
  nvidia driver, both of them already happened with F12 as released, so these 
  have absolutely nothing to do with this thread.
 
 That is what you say.  How exactly did you determine that ? OR are you
 guessing ?

The fact that it only broke for the reporter with an update from three
days ago, but you had those problems in September and October. Seems
pretty clear. It's not even the same problem description.

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Re: F12 updates-testing issue: X flickers and fails to start

2009-12-09 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:12:07 +0200 (EET) Pekka Savola wrote:
 Now gdm login however doesn't show my username and fingerprint login 
 is no longer an option

Looks like the issue with hal-0.5.14-1:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F12/FEDORA-2009-12840

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Re: F12 updates-testing issue: X flickers and fails to start

2009-12-09 Thread Linuxguy123
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 10:36 +0100, Michal Schmidt wrote:
 On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:12:07 +0200 (EET) Pekka Savola wrote:
  Now gdm login however doesn't show my username and fingerprint login 
  is no longer an option
 
 Looks like the issue with hal-0.5.14-1:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F12/FEDORA-2009-12840


I think it has something to do with display power management and the
monitor brightness level. I can replicate the behavior by simply
adjusting the display brightness in a KDE session.

I have logged 2 bugs that are possibly related to this.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528188

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525767



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Re: F12 updates-testing issue: X flickers and fails to start

2009-12-09 Thread Linuxguy123
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 06:27 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote:
 On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 10:36 +0100, Michal Schmidt wrote:
  On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:12:07 +0200 (EET) Pekka Savola wrote:
   Now gdm login however doesn't show my username and fingerprint login 
   is no longer an option
  
  Looks like the issue with hal-0.5.14-1:
  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F12/FEDORA-2009-12840
 
 
 I think it has something to do with display power management and the
 monitor brightness level. I can replicate the behavior by simply
 adjusting the display brightness in a KDE session.
 
 I have logged 2 bugs that are possibly related to this.
 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528188
 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525767
 

I recommend connecting an external monitor to see if the issue is
display specific and have you tried ctrl-alt-F6 to get to a console at
login and then going back to the X session with ctrl-alt-F1 ?


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Re: F12 updates-testing issue: X flickers and fails to start

2009-12-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Linuxguy123 wrote:
 I have logged 2 bugs that are possibly related to this.
 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528188
 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525767

Huh? One of these is a Nouveau bug, the other is a bug in the proprietary 
nvidia driver, both of them already happened with F12 as released, so these 
have absolutely nothing to do with this thread.

These bugs filed by Rex Dieter about issues caused by HAL 0.5.14 are 
probably more relevant:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=545258
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=545639

Kevin Kofler

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Re: F12 updates-testing issue: X flickers and fails to start

2009-12-09 Thread Linuxguy123
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 18:36 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Linuxguy123 wrote:
  I have logged 2 bugs that are possibly related to this.
  
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528188
  
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525767
 
 Huh? One of these is a Nouveau bug, the other is a bug in the proprietary 
 nvidia driver, both of them already happened with F12 as released, so these 
 have absolutely nothing to do with this thread.

That is what you say.  How exactly did you determine that ? OR are you
guessing ?

I say they have similar symptoms.  I said they *might* be related.  

I bet my bugs have nothing to do with the nouveau or nvidia drivers.
I've been saying that all along.  I guess we will find out.

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F12 updates-testing issue: X flickers and fails to start

2009-12-08 Thread Pekka Savola

Hi,

On my laptop, after F12 updates-testing update today, after reboot F 
logo shows but then the screen goes dark and starts flickering between 
various shades of dark (changing modes?) with intel graphics chipset 
(GM965/GL960).  I'm only using 1024x768 resolution. Nomodeset or using 
a previous kernel didn't help.  Booting to runlevel 3 and running 
system-config-display (--reconfig) resulted in the same.


I've worked around the issue by yum history undo 1 which rolled 
back a couple of hundred packages.


Any idea which package could be the culprit and I should file a bug 
against or to isolate it?  Somehow I don't think this is necessarily 
an Xorg base or driver issue.


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Re: F12 updates-testing issue: X flickers and fails to start

2009-12-08 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 10:33 +0200, Pekka Savola wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On my laptop, after F12 updates-testing update today, after reboot F 
 logo shows but then the screen goes dark and starts flickering between 
 various shades of dark (changing modes?) with intel graphics chipset 
 (GM965/GL960).  I'm only using 1024x768 resolution. Nomodeset or using 
 a previous kernel didn't help.  Booting to runlevel 3 and running 
 system-config-display (--reconfig) resulted in the same.
 
 I've worked around the issue by yum history undo 1 which rolled 
 back a couple of hundred packages.
 
 Any idea which package could be the culprit and I should file a bug 
 against or to isolate it?  Somehow I don't think this is necessarily 
 an Xorg base or driver issue.

I'd start with xorg-x11-drv-intel.  Update to the package set that
caused the problem, then for the bug report attach the output of
'dmesg', your entire /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, and the output of 'lspci
-nv'.  Also indicate your kernel version, the version of
xorg-x11-server-Xorg, and the version of xorg-x11-drv-intel.

Dan


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Re: F12 updates-testing issue: X flickers and fails to start

2009-12-08 Thread Dave Airlie
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 01:50 -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 10:33 +0200, Pekka Savola wrote:
  Hi,
  
  On my laptop, after F12 updates-testing update today, after reboot F 
  logo shows but then the screen goes dark and starts flickering between 
  various shades of dark (changing modes?) with intel graphics chipset 
  (GM965/GL960).  I'm only using 1024x768 resolution. Nomodeset or using 
  a previous kernel didn't help.  Booting to runlevel 3 and running 
  system-config-display (--reconfig) resulted in the same.
  
  I've worked around the issue by yum history undo 1 which rolled 
  back a couple of hundred packages.
  
  Any idea which package could be the culprit and I should file a bug 
  against or to isolate it?  Somehow I don't think this is necessarily 
  an Xorg base or driver issue.
 
 I'd start with xorg-x11-drv-intel.  Update to the package set that
 caused the problem, then for the bug report attach the output of
 'dmesg', your entire /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, and the output of 'lspci
 -nv'.  Also indicate your kernel version, the version of
 xorg-x11-server-Xorg, and the version of xorg-x11-drv-intel.
 

kernel is probably first up nowadays to blame for GPU bugs.

File bugs against the X drivers generally though is easier for us to
find them, kernel bug triage can be a long process.


Dave.

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