Re: Fedora 12 Extremely Unstable

2009-11-25 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 21:08 -0500, brad longo wrote:
 I just installed Fedora 12, to replace Fedora 11, and I have some bugs
 but I'm not sure where to file them.  Please help me get these into
 bugzilla as they are urgent. 
  1. Fedora 12 crashes frequently and makes it almost unusable for
 me.  It seems to crash whenever I try to edit/change sound
 preferences.  When I do this I get logged out and then have to
 log back in.  I can repeat this at any time by going to go
 System-Preferences-Sound.
 
  2. Editing preferences for certain programs causes me to be
 logged out but this is random and I haven't found a way to
 repeat it.
 
  3. Changes to keyboard shortcuts are not saved.  I tried mapping
 Alt+T as the shortcut for the terminal and it does not work.

Have you also updated your system since the install to make sure you any
included fixes/updates that didn't make it to final release?

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Re: Fedora 12 Extremely Unstable

2009-11-25 Thread Brad Longo
I reinstalled Fedora, and also checked the cd I installed from to see if 
that would fix the problem.  I believe the issues I had previously may 
have been caused by putting /home on its own lvm, which I did not do 
when I reinstalled.  I wanted to do this so I could install future 
releases without having to erase the home folder.  Unfortunately, I 
don't have the time continue to reinstall Fedora over and over to 
confirm that putting /home on its own lvm is the source of the issue, 
but maybe someone else can replicate this?


Before reinstalling, the programs that crashed when I tried to edit 
their preferences were all of the ones I tried: Thunderbird, Empathy, 
and Mozilla.  The automatic bug reporting tool crashed the system when 
trying to report some of the bugs too.


The system was fully update when I was experiencing the crashes.

Reinstalling solved all of my problems except one.  Keyboard shortcuts 
are still not saved.  However, this issue is trivial compared to the 
frequent crashes I was experiencing before.


Brad.

On 11/25/2009 09:00 AM, Mike Chambers wrote:

On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 21:08 -0500, brad longo wrote:
   

I just installed Fedora 12, to replace Fedora 11, and I have some bugs
but I'm not sure where to file them.  Please help me get these into
bugzilla as they are urgent.
  1. Fedora 12 crashes frequently and makes it almost unusable for
 me.  It seems to crash whenever I try to edit/change sound
 preferences.  When I do this I get logged out and then have to
 log back in.  I can repeat this at any time by going to go
 System-Preferences-Sound.

  2. Editing preferences for certain programs causes me to be
 logged out but this is random and I haven't found a way to
 repeat it.

  3. Changes to keyboard shortcuts are not saved.  I tried mapping
 Alt+T as the shortcut for the terminal and it does not work.
 

Have you also updated your system since the install to make sure you any
included fixes/updates that didn't make it to final release?

   
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Re: Fedora 12 Extremely Unstable

2009-11-25 Thread Eric Sandeen
Brad Longo wrote:
 I reinstalled Fedora, and also checked the cd I installed from to see if
 that would fix the problem.  I believe the issues I had previously may
 have been caused by putting /home on its own lvm, which I did not do
 when I reinstalled.  I wanted to do this so I could install future
 releases without having to erase the home folder.  Unfortunately, I
 don't have the time continue to reinstall Fedora over and over to
 confirm that putting /home on its own lvm is the source of the issue,
 but maybe someone else can replicate this?

I'd be awfully surprised if this were the root cause.

The suggestion to run the failing application from a console, and look
for errors on the console and the X log, sounds like the best plan of
attack to me.

 Before reinstalling, the programs that crashed when I tried to edit
 their preferences were all of the ones I tried: Thunderbird, Empathy,
 and Mozilla.  The automatic bug reporting tool crashed the system when
 trying to report some of the bugs too.
 
 The system was fully update when I was experiencing the crashes.
 
 Reinstalling solved all of my problems except one.  Keyboard shortcuts
 are still not saved.  However, this issue is trivial compared to the
 frequent crashes I was experiencing before.

oh, ok.  Hm, odd.

-Eric

 Brad.

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Re: Fedora 12 Extremely Unstable

2009-11-25 Thread Brad Longo



On 11/25/2009 11:13 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote:

Brad Longo wrote:
   

I reinstalled Fedora, and also checked the cd I installed from to see if
that would fix the problem.  I believe the issues I had previously may
have been caused by putting /home on its own lvm, which I did not do
when I reinstalled.  I wanted to do this so I could install future
releases without having to erase the home folder.  Unfortunately, I
don't have the time continue to reinstall Fedora over and over to
confirm that putting /home on its own lvm is the source of the issue,
but maybe someone else can replicate this?
 

I'd be awfully surprised if this were the root cause.

The suggestion to run the failing application from a console, and look
for errors on the console and the X log, sounds like the best plan of
attack to me.

   

Before reinstalling, the programs that crashed when I tried to edit
their preferences were all of the ones I tried: Thunderbird, Empathy,
and Mozilla.  The automatic bug reporting tool crashed the system when
trying to report some of the bugs too.

The system was fully update when I was experiencing the crashes.

Reinstalling solved all of my problems except one.  Keyboard shortcuts
are still not saved.  However, this issue is trivial compared to the
frequent crashes I was experiencing before.
 

oh, ok.  Hm, odd.

-Eric
   
I just got keyboard shortcuts to work by enabling compiz.  Compiz was 
disabled by default.


Brad.
   

Brad.
 
   
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Re: Fedora 12 Extremely Unstable

2009-11-25 Thread Orion Poplawski

On 11/24/2009 07:08 PM, brad longo wrote:

I just installed Fedora 12, to replace Fedora 11, and I have some bugs
but I'm not sure where to file them. Please help me get these into
bugzilla as they are urgent.

   1. Fedora 12 crashes frequently and makes it almost unusable for me.


This really isn't the proper mailling list, but try kernels (and *) from 
updates-testing, seem to have fixed a intermittent lockup on my machine.


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Fedora 12 Extremely Unstable

2009-11-24 Thread brad longo
I just installed Fedora 12, to replace Fedora 11, and I have some bugs 
but I'm not sure where to file them.  Please help me get these into 
bugzilla as they are urgent.


  1. Fedora 12 crashes frequently and makes it almost unusable for me. 
 It seems to crash whenever I try to edit/change sound

 preferences.  When I do this I get logged out and then have to log
 back in.  I can repeat this at any time by going to go
 System-Preferences-Sound.

  2. Editing preferences for certain programs causes me to be logged
 out but this is random and I haven't found a way to repeat it.

  3. Changes to keyboard shortcuts are not saved.  I tried mapping
 Alt+T as the shortcut for the terminal and it does not work.

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Re: Fedora 12 Extremely Unstable

2009-11-24 Thread nodata

Am 2009-11-25 03:08, schrieb brad longo:

I just installed Fedora 12, to replace Fedora 11, and I have some bugs
but I'm not sure where to file them. Please help me get these into
bugzilla as they are urgent.

   1. Fedora 12 crashes frequently and makes it almost unusable for me.
  It seems to crash whenever I try to edit/change sound preferences.
  When I do this I get logged out and then have to log back in. I
  can repeat this at any time by going to go System-Preferences-Sound.


Run the gui program from the console if you can and see any errors.


   2. Editing preferences for certain programs causes me to be logged
  out but this is random and I haven't found a way to repeat it.


Which certain programs?



   3. Changes to keyboard shortcuts are not saved. I tried mapping Alt+T
  as the shortcut for the terminal and it does not work.


WFM

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Re: Fedora 12 Extremely Unstable

2009-11-24 Thread Michal Schmidt

Dne 25.11.2009 03:08, brad longo napsal(a):

   1. Fedora 12 crashes frequently and makes it almost unusable for me.
  It seems to crash whenever I try to edit/change sound preferences.
  When I do this I get logged out and then have to log back in. I
  can repeat this at any time by going to go System-Preferences-Sound.


Getting suddenly logged out is usually a symptom of an X server crash. 
Please look into /var/log/Xorg* to see if you are getting any backtraces.


Michal

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