Re: Fedora Moblin remix
2009/11/5 Peter Robinson : > Hi All, > > For those interested there's a new test LiveCD of Fedora Moblin remix > [1] for those that are interesting in playing. It would be nice to > have some feedback on good or bad issues with it. There's been almost > 1300 downloads since I announced the last one but I've had no feedback > what so ever and while I'd like to assume that's because its perfect I > doubt that is the case. > * I booted it for the first time some minutes ago on an Asus eeepc 900 (no atom, just a celeron). I actually never installed "vanilla" moblin because in their site atom is a requirement. * Boot is somewhat slow but it could depend on my crappy usb key, or because netbooks are crap themselves; after gdm login, the graphics go unexpectedly *FAST* and *SMOOTH* ! * Just before graphical boot screen, for some seconds i can see: -- render error detected, EIR: 0x0010 page table error PGTBL_ER: 0x0100 [drm:i915_handle_error] *ERROR* EIR stuck: 0x010, masking render error detected, EIR: 0x0010 page table error PGTBL_ER: 0x0100 -- however, everything seems to run just right after that. * Where's wifi configuration? isn't there a graphical tool to configure it? asking my gf to get it up on a shell is a no-no. * I mounted a touchscreen in my eeepc, and moblin gui looks much more friendly to that interface. However i couldnt install the manufacturer software (eGalax), because i think an autoloaded module interferes with it (generic-usb?). On F11 nothing get autoloaded and touchscreen works fine. I need some more testing to figure this out. Kudos to you: that's a *very* promising work! guido -- Guido Grazioli Via Parri 11 48011 - Alfonsine (RA) Mobile: +39 347 1017202 (10-18) Key FP = 7040 F398 0DED A737 7337 DAE1 12DC A698 5E81 2278 Linked in: http://www.linkedin.com/in/guidograzioli -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora Moblin remix
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Guido Grazioli wrote: > 2009/11/5 Peter Robinson : >> Hi All, >> >> For those interested there's a new test LiveCD of Fedora Moblin remix >> [1] for those that are interesting in playing. It would be nice to >> have some feedback on good or bad issues with it. There's been almost >> 1300 downloads since I announced the last one but I've had no feedback >> what so ever and while I'd like to assume that's because its perfect I >> doubt that is the case. >> > > * I booted it for the first time some minutes ago on an Asus eeepc 900 > (no atom, just a celeron). I actually never installed "vanilla" moblin > because in their site atom is a requirement. > > * Boot is somewhat slow but it could depend on my crappy usb key, or > because netbooks are crap themselves; after > gdm login, the graphics go unexpectedly *FAST* and *SMOOTH* ! Cool, I need to look closer at the boot to see what can improved. I'm been too busy for my own good of late so haven't had a chance to look closely at this bit. > * Just before graphical boot screen, for some seconds i can see: > -- > render error detected, EIR: 0x0010 > page table error > PGTBL_ER: 0x0100 > [drm:i915_handle_error] *ERROR* EIR stuck: 0x010, masking > render error detected, EIR: 0x0010 > page table error > PGTBL_ER: 0x0100 > -- > however, everything seems to run just right after that. Is it recorded in dmesg. It might be worth reporting a bug with all the details. > * Where's wifi configuration? isn't there a graphical tool > to configure it? asking my gf to get it up on a shell is a no-no. It should be in the top right corner of the top panel. Just to the left of the volume control. From memory the eeePC 900 has an atheros card so it should work OK. > * I mounted a touchscreen in my eeepc, and moblin gui looks > much more friendly to that interface. However i couldnt install > the manufacturer software (eGalax), because i think > an autoloaded module interferes with it (generic-usb?). > On F11 nothing get autoloaded and touchscreen works fine. > I need some more testing to figure this out. Do they have an open driver? Maybe its supported in F-12 and I just need to make sure the right package is included to support it. Thanks for the report. Cheers, Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora Moblin remix
Hi all, Moblin is afaik Intel processors only. Would this work because of the fedora fundament on other processors like a via with 733mhz, too? 2009/11/6, Peter Robinson : > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Guido Grazioli > wrote: >> 2009/11/5 Peter Robinson : >>> Hi All, >>> >>> For those interested there's a new test LiveCD of Fedora Moblin remix >>> [1] for those that are interesting in playing. It would be nice to >>> have some feedback on good or bad issues with it. There's been almost >>> 1300 downloads since I announced the last one but I've had no feedback >>> what so ever and while I'd like to assume that's because its perfect I >>> doubt that is the case. >>> >> >> * I booted it for the first time some minutes ago on an Asus eeepc 900 >> (no atom, just a celeron). I actually never installed "vanilla" moblin >> because in their site atom is a requirement. >> >> * Boot is somewhat slow but it could depend on my crappy usb key, or >> because netbooks are crap themselves; after >> gdm login, the graphics go unexpectedly *FAST* and *SMOOTH* ! > > Cool, I need to look closer at the boot to see what can improved. I'm > been too busy for my own good of late so haven't had a chance to look > closely at this bit. > >> * Just before graphical boot screen, for some seconds i can see: >> -- >> render error detected, EIR: 0x0010 >> page table error >> PGTBL_ER: 0x0100 >> [drm:i915_handle_error] *ERROR* EIR stuck: 0x010, masking >> render error detected, EIR: 0x0010 >> page table error >> PGTBL_ER: 0x0100 >> -- >> however, everything seems to run just right after that. > > Is it recorded in dmesg. It might be worth reporting a bug with all > the details. > >> * Where's wifi configuration? isn't there a graphical tool >> to configure it? asking my gf to get it up on a shell is a no-no. > > It should be in the top right corner of the top panel. Just to the > left of the volume control. From memory the eeePC 900 has an atheros > card so it should work OK. > >> * I mounted a touchscreen in my eeepc, and moblin gui looks >> much more friendly to that interface. However i couldnt install >> the manufacturer software (eGalax), because i think >> an autoloaded module interferes with it (generic-usb?). >> On F11 nothing get autoloaded and touchscreen works fine. >> I need some more testing to figure this out. > > Do they have an open driver? Maybe its supported in F-12 and I just > need to make sure the right package is included to support it. > > Thanks for the report. > > Cheers, > Peter > > -- > fedora-devel-list mailing list > fedora-devel-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list > -- Josephine "Fine" Tannhäuser 2.6.18-164.2.1.el5 2.6.30.9-90.fc11.i586 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora Moblin remix
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: > Hi all, > > Moblin is afaik Intel processors only. Would this work because of the > fedora fundament on other processors like a via with 733mhz, too? Intel's version of Moblin is optimised for Intel processors only. Fedora's version of moblin should work on on all CPUs but the interface makes a lot of use of opengl through clutter so it will be dependant on your video card so you milage may vary. Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora Moblin remix
On 11/05/2009 07:01 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, For those interested there's a new test LiveCD of Fedora Moblin remix [1] for those that are interesting in playing. It would be nice to have some feedback on good or bad issues with it. There's been almost 1300 downloads since I announced the last one but I've had no feedback what so ever and while I'd like to assume that's because its perfect I doubt that is the case. Enjoy! Peter [1] http://fedora.roving-it.com/FedoraMoblin12-Beta2-LiveCD.iso As a side note the old one has been renamed to the following to make it easier to identify. http://fedora.roving-it.com/FedoraMoblin12-Beta1-LiveCD.iso I downloaded at the livecd and booted it on my T60 http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_1b38e7a8-4ef5-478b-89d5-97f0ebf135be The interface was work and looked very nice, but it looked like the network applet was crached, so i couldn't connect to my wireless network :( abrt had a crash report on network-manager-netbook, but i could not submit it because i had not network connection. Thanks for the nice work ! Tim -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora Moblin remix
On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 18:01 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > Hi All, > > For those interested there's a new test LiveCD of Fedora Moblin remix > [1] for those that are interesting in playing. It would be nice to > have some feedback on good or bad issues with it. There's been almost > 1300 downloads since I announced the last one but I've had no feedback > what so ever and while I'd like to assume that's because its perfect I > doubt that is the case. I couldn't boot it using EFI on a Macbook Air, from a USB key because of a bootx64.efi error. Which version of syslinux did you use to generate the ISO? The same hardware, generating the same USB key worked (kinda[1]) with the F12 beta live image. Cheers [1]: Got this error on boot (this a first gen MBA, with Intel gfx), will test with the F12 RC when it's available: [drm:drm_mode_rmfb] *ERROR* tried to remove a fb that we didn't own -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora Moblin remix
On 11/07/2009 11:13 AM, Tim Lauridsen wrote: On 11/05/2009 07:01 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, For those interested there's a new test LiveCD of Fedora Moblin remix [1] for those that are interesting in playing. It would be nice to have some feedback on good or bad issues with it. There's been almost 1300 downloads since I announced the last one but I've had no feedback what so ever and while I'd like to assume that's because its perfect I doubt that is the case. Enjoy! Peter [1] http://fedora.roving-it.com/FedoraMoblin12-Beta2-LiveCD.iso As a side note the old one has been renamed to the following to make it easier to identify. http://fedora.roving-it.com/FedoraMoblin12-Beta1-LiveCD.iso I downloaded at the livecd and booted it on my T60 http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_1b38e7a8-4ef5-478b-89d5-97f0ebf135be The interface was work and looked very nice, but it looked like the network applet was crached, so i couldn't connect to my wireless network :( abrt had a crash report on network-manager-netbook, but i could not submit it because i had not network connection. Thanks for the nice work ! Tim Tested with Beta3, same issue no network applet and no way to get a wpa2 connection :( Tim -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora Moblin remix
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Tim Lauridsen wrote: > On 11/07/2009 11:13 AM, Tim Lauridsen wrote: >> >> On 11/05/2009 07:01 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> For those interested there's a new test LiveCD of Fedora Moblin remix >>> [1] for those that are interesting in playing. It would be nice to >>> have some feedback on good or bad issues with it. There's been almost >>> 1300 downloads since I announced the last one but I've had no feedback >>> what so ever and while I'd like to assume that's because its perfect I >>> doubt that is the case. >>> >>> Enjoy! >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> [1] http://fedora.roving-it.com/FedoraMoblin12-Beta2-LiveCD.iso >>> >>> As a side note the old one has been renamed to the following to make >>> it easier to identify. >>> >>> http://fedora.roving-it.com/FedoraMoblin12-Beta1-LiveCD.iso >>> >> I downloaded at the livecd and booted it on my T60 >> http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_1b38e7a8-4ef5-478b-89d5-97f0ebf135be >> >> The interface was work and looked very nice, but it looked like the >> network applet was crached, so i couldn't >> connect to my wireless network :( >> abrt had a crash report on network-manager-netbook, but i could not >> submit it because i had not network connection. >> >> Thanks for the nice work ! >> >> Tim >> > > Tested with Beta3, same issue no network applet and no way to get a wpa2 > connection :( There's a crash in n-m-n that I'm looking into. It seems to be when there's no exiting connections as it works fine on my dual gnome/mobilin instance which already had APs. Cheers, Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora Moblin remix
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 18:01 +, Peter Robinson wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> For those interested there's a new test LiveCD of Fedora Moblin remix >> [1] for those that are interesting in playing. It would be nice to >> have some feedback on good or bad issues with it. There's been almost >> 1300 downloads since I announced the last one but I've had no feedback >> what so ever and while I'd like to assume that's because its perfect I >> doubt that is the case. > > I couldn't boot it using EFI on a Macbook Air, from a USB key because of > a bootx64.efi error. > > Which version of syslinux did you use to generate the ISO? The current one in F-12/rawhide. I've only become aware of the EFI support (via Luke's blog post about the new livecd-creator tool) so its on my list to investigate shortly. Is there anything special that needs to be done or should it just work? If there is something that needs to be done can someone point me to what that is. > The same hardware, generating the same USB key worked (kinda[1]) with > the F12 beta live image. Unfortunately the only EFI based device I have to test this with is a O2 joggler and I have no idea what version of EFI it has, just that its a 32 bit Atom based system that I want took look at closer for hacking when I get some spare cycles. > Cheers > > [1]: Got this error on boot (this a first gen MBA, with Intel gfx), will > test with the F12 RC when it's available: > [drm:drm_mode_rmfb] *ERROR* tried to remove a fb that we didn't own Cheers, Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora Moblin remix
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 13:41 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 18:01 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> Hi All, > >> > >> For those interested there's a new test LiveCD of Fedora Moblin remix > >> [1] for those that are interesting in playing. It would be nice to > >> have some feedback on good or bad issues with it. There's been almost > >> 1300 downloads since I announced the last one but I've had no feedback > >> what so ever and while I'd like to assume that's because its perfect I > >> doubt that is the case. > > > > I couldn't boot it using EFI on a Macbook Air, from a USB key because of > > a bootx64.efi error. > > > > Which version of syslinux did you use to generate the ISO? > > The current one in F-12/rawhide. I've only become aware of the EFI > support (via Luke's blog post about the new livecd-creator tool) so > its on my list to investigate shortly. Is there anything special that > needs to be done or should it just work? If there is something that > needs to be done can someone point me to what that is. > > > The same hardware, generating the same USB key worked (kinda[1]) with > > the F12 beta live image. > > Unfortunately the only EFI based device I have to test this with is a > O2 joggler and I have no idea what version of EFI it has, just that > its a 32 bit Atom based system that I want took look at closer for > hacking when I get some spare cycles. My just be a dupe of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533824 I'll recreate a boot disk when I get a chance. Cheers -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora Moblin remix
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 13:41 +, Peter Robinson wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: >> > On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 18:01 +, Peter Robinson wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> For those interested there's a new test LiveCD of Fedora Moblin remix >> >> [1] for those that are interesting in playing. It would be nice to >> >> have some feedback on good or bad issues with it. There's been almost >> >> 1300 downloads since I announced the last one but I've had no feedback >> >> what so ever and while I'd like to assume that's because its perfect I >> >> doubt that is the case. >> > >> > I couldn't boot it using EFI on a Macbook Air, from a USB key because of >> > a bootx64.efi error. >> > >> > Which version of syslinux did you use to generate the ISO? >> >> The current one in F-12/rawhide. I've only become aware of the EFI >> support (via Luke's blog post about the new livecd-creator tool) so >> its on my list to investigate shortly. Is there anything special that >> needs to be done or should it just work? If there is something that >> needs to be done can someone point me to what that is. >> >> > The same hardware, generating the same USB key worked (kinda[1]) with >> > the F12 beta live image. >> >> Unfortunately the only EFI based device I have to test this with is a >> O2 joggler and I have no idea what version of EFI it has, just that >> its a 32 bit Atom based system that I want took look at closer for >> hacking when I get some spare cycles. > > My just be a dupe of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533824 > I'll recreate a boot disk when I get a chance. I found these two efi ones over the weekend as well: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528232 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526825 Cheers, Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora Moblin remix
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 13:36 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > There's a crash in n-m-n that I'm looking into. It seems to be when > there's no exiting connections as it works fine on my dual > gnome/mobilin instance which already had APs. I recall a similar bug in NetworkManager-gnome getting fixed during the F12 cycle (around beta time IIRC) - maybe look at that fix? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora Moblin remix
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 12:27 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: > The same hardware, generating the same USB key worked (kinda[1]) with > the F12 beta live image. > > Cheers > > [1]: Got this error on boot (this a first gen MBA, with Intel gfx), will > test with the F12 RC when it's available: > [drm:drm_mode_rmfb] *ERROR* tried to remove a fb that we didn't own That's a very common error message and, AFAICT anyway, doesn't really indicate that anything is particularly broken. At least I see it all the time on systems that otherwise appear to work fine. So if you're having problems I _doubt_ they trace to that message. Check with a qualified X hacker though =) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora Moblin remix
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 11:01 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 12:27 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > The same hardware, generating the same USB key worked (kinda[1]) with > > the F12 beta live image. > > > > Cheers > > > > [1]: Got this error on boot (this a first gen MBA, with Intel gfx), will > > test with the F12 RC when it's available: > > [drm:drm_mode_rmfb] *ERROR* tried to remove a fb that we didn't own > > That's a very common error message and, AFAICT anyway, doesn't really > indicate that anything is particularly broken. At least I see it all the > time on systems that otherwise appear to work fine. So if you're having > problems I _doubt_ they trace to that message. Check with a qualified X > hacker though =) I guess, for myself, and a number of other bug reporters, that's the sort of error you would _see_ when an error message from the console gets printed using KMS. Only problem is that it's not the error message we actually wanted to see. In my case, it was the initrd being unable to find its new root device. Which I later fixed in: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533824 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora Moblin remix
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 19:11 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > That's a very common error message and, AFAICT anyway, doesn't really > > indicate that anything is particularly broken. At least I see it all the > > time on systems that otherwise appear to work fine. So if you're having > > problems I _doubt_ they trace to that message. Check with a qualified X > > hacker though =) > > I guess, for myself, and a number of other bug reporters, that's the > sort of error you would _see_ when an error message from the console > gets printed using KMS. Yeah, it's one you tend to notice when you get dumped to a console for some other reason, but was actually there all the time and you just weren't seeing it when whatever actually turns out to be broken was working... > Only problem is that it's not the error message we actually wanted to > see. In my case, it was the initrd being unable to find its new root > device. Which I later fixed in: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533824 Yeah, I have a similar case where occasionally my system just fails to boot; I see the drm error, but it's actually grub or my BIOS falling over. I've verified the same error exists on a successful boot, I just don't see it because the bootsplash hides it. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
