Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon
Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 11/14/2009 05:22 AM, Neal Becker wrote: Jesse Keating wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 16:09 -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: For heaven's sake, no! Don't you realize this means a ton of *users* will start to bog down the mirrors before the whole data set has propagated through the network? I'm not sure what you're expecting, but users will only be able to get to the Everything tree, which is nearly 100% hardlinks into the development/ tree. There are no isos, no install images, nothing but rpms and repodata. They will not be able to get to the isos which are behind locked dirs. So, can I do preupgrade now (I have plenty of /boot)? Yes. As always, having a backup of your data is a good thing. Rahul Preupgrade is not showing f12, only choice is rawhide. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon
Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 11/14/2009 07:40 PM, Neal Becker wrote: Preupgrade is not showing f12, only choice is rawhide. Yes but Rawhide is still Fedora 12 now. So you have a small window to upgrade. Rahul Looks like it didn't work, only ran for a moment. Offers to reboot, but didn't seem to download any packages: sudo preupgrade /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/__init__.py:203: UserWarning: Use .preconf instead of passing args to _getConfig warnings.warn('Use .preconf instead of passing args to _getConfig') Loaded plugins: blacklist, dellsysidplugin2, refresh-packagekit, whiteout preupgrade (mirrorlist) url: http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=rawhidearch=$basearch now: http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=rawhidearch=x86_64 preupgrade-rpmfusion-free-rawhide (mirrorlist) url: http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=free-fedora- rawhidearch=x86_64 now: http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=free-fedora- rawhidearch=x86_64 preupgrade-rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide (mirrorlist) url: http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora- rawhidearch=x86_64 now: http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora- rawhidearch=x86_64 Fetched treeinfo from ftp://fedora.bu.edu/development/x86_64/os//.treeinfo treeinfo timestamp: Tue Apr 7 06:29:33 2009 rpmfusion-nonfree-release-11.90-1.noarch from preupgrade-rpmfusion-nonfree- rawhide has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: system-release = 11.90 is needed by package rpmfusion-nonfree-release-11.90-1.noarch (preupgrade-rpmfusion-nonfree- rawhide) rpmfusion-free-release-11.90-1.noarch from preupgrade-rpmfusion-free-rawhide has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: system-release = 11.90 is needed by package rpmfusion-free-release-11.90-1.noarch (preupgrade-rpmfusion-free-rawhide) Downloading 1.8MB Available disk space for /var/cache/yum/preupgrade: 1.1TB Upgrade requires 500.0MB Available disk space for /usr: 1.1TB Generating metadata for preupgrade repo DEBUG /sbin/grubby --title=Upgrade to Rawhide --remove- kernel=/boot/upgrade/vmlinuz --add-kernel=/boot/upgrade/vmlinuz -- initrd=/boot/upgrade/initrd.img --args=preupgrade repo=hd::/var/cache/yum/preupgrade stage2=hd:UUID=9a7b4349-d278-4287- b6a9-4c4949e97730:/upgrade/install.img ks=hd:UUID=9a7b4349-d278-4287- b6a9-4c4949e97730:/upgrade/ks.cfg -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon
On 11/14/2009 08:17 PM, Neal Becker wrote: rpmfusion-free-release-11.90-1.noarch from preupgrade-rpmfusion-free-rawhide has depsolving problems -- Missing Dependency: system-release = 11.90 is needed by package rpmfusion-free-release-11.90-1.noarch (preupgrade-rpmfusion-free-rawhide) Remove the rpmfusion-*-release packages and try again. I would prefer if you post a new thread on fedora-test list if you want to continue this discussion. Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon
Jesse Keating wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 16:09 -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: For heaven's sake, no! Don't you realize this means a ton of *users* will start to bog down the mirrors before the whole data set has propagated through the network? I'm not sure what you're expecting, but users will only be able to get to the Everything tree, which is nearly 100% hardlinks into the development/ tree. There are no isos, no install images, nothing but rpms and repodata. They will not be able to get to the isos which are behind locked dirs. So, can I do preupgrade now (I have plenty of /boot)? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon
On 11/14/2009 05:22 AM, Neal Becker wrote: Jesse Keating wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 16:09 -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: For heaven's sake, no! Don't you realize this means a ton of *users* will start to bog down the mirrors before the whole data set has propagated through the network? I'm not sure what you're expecting, but users will only be able to get to the Everything tree, which is nearly 100% hardlinks into the development/ tree. There are no isos, no install images, nothing but rpms and repodata. They will not be able to get to the isos which are behind locked dirs. So, can I do preupgrade now (I have plenty of /boot)? Yes. As always, having a backup of your data is a good thing. Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon
On 11/12/2009 02:52 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: I have just staged Fedora 12 for our mirrors. We're doing something a little different this time around. The releases/12/Everything/ tree will be open to the public as it gets staged. For heaven's sake, no! Don't you realize this means a ton of *users* will start to bog down the mirrors before the whole data set has propagated through the network? -hpa ___ Fedora-devel-announce mailing list fedora-devel-annou...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 04:09:55PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: On 11/12/2009 02:52 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: I have just staged Fedora 12 for our mirrors. We're doing something a little different this time around. The releases/12/Everything/ tree will be open to the public as it gets staged. For heaven's sake, no! Don't you realize this means a ton of *users* will start to bog down the mirrors before the whole data set has propagated through the network? To do what? The Everything trees don't contain bootable media. They are just package repositories. The users on rawhide-f12 installs will hit that if they want to install packages, but that is no more load than them just hitting rawhide for packages. It's certainly possible that users will rsync the Everything tree, but they won't be able to do much with it. Is that the usecase you're worried about? josh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon
It's certainly possible that users will rsync the Everything tree, but they won't be able to do much with it. Is that the usecase you're worried about? I just rsync'd it from my mirror of choice (kernel.org) and was very glad to get it releases/12/Everything quickly populated with hard links to the development/ files I already had locally. Now whenever I next rsync after the development/ tree cuts over, I won't wind up downloading copies of all the *.fc12.*.rpm in one place and deleting them in the other. In past releases I've had to either let that happen (and hope my ISP doesn't call me an abuser for downloading so much so fast), or do some careful manual cp -rl magic to stage local copies for rsync to find. This is a drastic improvement for me--and for my use of my chosen mirror's bandwidth. Thanks, Roland -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 16:09 -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: For heaven's sake, no! Don't you realize this means a ton of *users* will start to bog down the mirrors before the whole data set has propagated through the network? I'm not sure what you're expecting, but users will only be able to get to the Everything tree, which is nearly 100% hardlinks into the development/ tree. There are no isos, no install images, nothing but rpms and repodata. They will not be able to get to the isos which are behind locked dirs. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- FreedomĀ² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list