Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon

2009-11-14 Thread Neal Becker
Rahul Sundaram wrote:

 On 11/14/2009 05:22 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
 Jesse Keating wrote:
 
 On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 16:09 -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
 For heaven's sake, no!

 Don't you realize this means a ton of *users* will start to bog down
 the mirrors before the whole data set has propagated through the
 network?

 I'm not sure what you're expecting, but users will only be able to get
 to the Everything tree, which is nearly 100% hardlinks into the
 development/ tree.  There are no isos, no install images, nothing but
 rpms and repodata.  They will not be able to get to the isos which are
 behind locked dirs.

 
 So, can I do preupgrade now (I have plenty of /boot)?
 
 Yes. As always, having a backup of your data is a good thing.
 
 Rahul
 

Preupgrade is not showing f12, only choice is rawhide.

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Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon

2009-11-14 Thread Neal Becker
Rahul Sundaram wrote:

 On 11/14/2009 07:40 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
 

 
 Preupgrade is not showing f12, only choice is rawhide.
 
 Yes but Rawhide is still Fedora 12 now. So you have a small window to
 upgrade.
 
 Rahul
 
Looks like it didn't work, only ran for a moment.  Offers to reboot, but 
didn't seem to download any packages:

 sudo preupgrade
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/__init__.py:203: UserWarning: Use 
.preconf instead of passing args to _getConfig
  warnings.warn('Use .preconf instead of passing args to _getConfig')
Loaded plugins: blacklist, dellsysidplugin2, refresh-packagekit, whiteout
preupgrade (mirrorlist) 
  url: 
http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=rawhidearch=$basearch
  now: http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=rawhidearch=x86_64
preupgrade-rpmfusion-free-rawhide (mirrorlist) 
  url: http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=free-fedora-
rawhidearch=x86_64
  now: http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=free-fedora-
rawhidearch=x86_64
preupgrade-rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide (mirrorlist) 
  url: http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-
rawhidearch=x86_64
  now: http://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mirrorlist?repo=nonfree-fedora-
rawhidearch=x86_64
Fetched treeinfo from ftp://fedora.bu.edu/development/x86_64/os//.treeinfo
treeinfo timestamp: Tue Apr  7 06:29:33 2009
rpmfusion-nonfree-release-11.90-1.noarch from preupgrade-rpmfusion-nonfree-
rawhide has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: system-release = 11.90 is needed by package 
rpmfusion-nonfree-release-11.90-1.noarch (preupgrade-rpmfusion-nonfree-
rawhide)
rpmfusion-free-release-11.90-1.noarch from preupgrade-rpmfusion-free-rawhide 
has depsolving problems
  -- Missing Dependency: system-release = 11.90 is needed by package 
rpmfusion-free-release-11.90-1.noarch (preupgrade-rpmfusion-free-rawhide)
Downloading 1.8MB
Available disk space for /var/cache/yum/preupgrade: 1.1TB
Upgrade requires 500.0MB
Available disk space for /usr: 1.1TB
Generating metadata for preupgrade repo
DEBUG /sbin/grubby --title=Upgrade to Rawhide --remove-
kernel=/boot/upgrade/vmlinuz --add-kernel=/boot/upgrade/vmlinuz --
initrd=/boot/upgrade/initrd.img --args=preupgrade 
repo=hd::/var/cache/yum/preupgrade stage2=hd:UUID=9a7b4349-d278-4287-
b6a9-4c4949e97730:/upgrade/install.img ks=hd:UUID=9a7b4349-d278-4287-
b6a9-4c4949e97730:/upgrade/ks.cfg

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Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon

2009-11-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/14/2009 08:17 PM, Neal Becker wrote:

 rpmfusion-free-release-11.90-1.noarch from preupgrade-rpmfusion-free-rawhide 
 has depsolving problems
   -- Missing Dependency: system-release = 11.90 is needed by package 
 rpmfusion-free-release-11.90-1.noarch (preupgrade-rpmfusion-free-rawhide)

Remove the rpmfusion-*-release packages and try again.  I would prefer
if you post a new thread on fedora-test list if you want to continue
this discussion.

Rahul

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Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon

2009-11-13 Thread Neal Becker
Jesse Keating wrote:

 On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 16:09 -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
 For heaven's sake, no!
 
 Don't you realize this means a ton of *users* will start to bog down the
 mirrors before the whole data set has propagated through the network?
 
 I'm not sure what you're expecting, but users will only be able to get
 to the Everything tree, which is nearly 100% hardlinks into the
 development/ tree.  There are no isos, no install images, nothing but
 rpms and repodata.  They will not be able to get to the isos which are
 behind locked dirs.
 

So, can I do preupgrade now (I have plenty of /boot)?

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Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon

2009-11-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/14/2009 05:22 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
 Jesse Keating wrote:
 
 On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 16:09 -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
 For heaven's sake, no!

 Don't you realize this means a ton of *users* will start to bog down the
 mirrors before the whole data set has propagated through the network?

 I'm not sure what you're expecting, but users will only be able to get
 to the Everything tree, which is nearly 100% hardlinks into the
 development/ tree.  There are no isos, no install images, nothing but
 rpms and repodata.  They will not be able to get to the isos which are
 behind locked dirs.

 
 So, can I do preupgrade now (I have plenty of /boot)?

Yes. As always, having a backup of your data is a good thing.

Rahul

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Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon

2009-11-12 Thread H. Peter Anvin
On 11/12/2009 02:52 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
 I have just staged Fedora 12 for our mirrors.  We're doing something a
 little different this time around.  The releases/12/Everything/ tree
 will be open to the public as it gets staged.

For heaven's sake, no!

Don't you realize this means a ton of *users* will start to bog down the
mirrors before the whole data set has propagated through the network?

-hpa

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Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon

2009-11-12 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 04:09:55PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
On 11/12/2009 02:52 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
 I have just staged Fedora 12 for our mirrors.  We're doing something a
 little different this time around.  The releases/12/Everything/ tree
 will be open to the public as it gets staged.

For heaven's sake, no!

Don't you realize this means a ton of *users* will start to bog down the
mirrors before the whole data set has propagated through the network?

To do what?  The Everything trees don't contain bootable media.  They are just
package repositories.

The users on rawhide-f12 installs will hit that if they want to install
packages, but that is no more load than them just hitting rawhide for packages.

It's certainly possible that users will rsync the Everything tree, but they
won't be able to do much with it.  Is that the usecase you're worried about?

josh

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Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon

2009-11-12 Thread Roland McGrath
 It's certainly possible that users will rsync the Everything tree, but they
 won't be able to do much with it.  Is that the usecase you're worried about?

I just rsync'd it from my mirror of choice (kernel.org) and was very glad
to get it releases/12/Everything quickly populated with hard links to the
development/ files I already had locally.  Now whenever I next rsync after
the development/ tree cuts over, I won't wind up downloading copies of all
the *.fc12.*.rpm in one place and deleting them in the other.  In past
releases I've had to either let that happen (and hope my ISP doesn't call
me an abuser for downloading so much so fast), or do some careful manual
cp -rl magic to stage local copies for rsync to find.  This is a drastic
improvement for me--and for my use of my chosen mirror's bandwidth.


Thanks,
Roland

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Re: Fedora 12 staged for mirrors, rawhide moving on soon

2009-11-12 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 16:09 -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
 For heaven's sake, no!
 
 Don't you realize this means a ton of *users* will start to bog down the
 mirrors before the whole data set has propagated through the network? 

I'm not sure what you're expecting, but users will only be able to get
to the Everything tree, which is nearly 100% hardlinks into the
development/ tree.  There are no isos, no install images, nothing but
rpms and repodata.  They will not be able to get to the isos which are
behind locked dirs.

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Fedora -- FreedomĀ² is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating


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