Re: How to enable xorg.conf in F-11
2009/6/12 Pete Zaitcev : > On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:25:18 -0700, Adam Williamson > wrote: >> (it may not be, >> and thanks to NetworkManager, if you can't get into X, you may well not >> have a network connection in order to install it...) > > Oh please. You're descending below Mr. Lemekhov's levels of aggression > into the passive-aggressive -- made even more dumb by the fact that > you're flat wrong. Speaking of aggressive and even worse rude. > It only takes one little rpm -e NetworkManager > and then "chkconfig network on", and you're back in business. To grab your own point from above: "chkconfig NetworkManager off" seems the smarter way instead of rpm -e ;) > NetworkManager is integrated into F11 with an excellent compatibility, Well.. If everything is so well integrated, there would be no need for some "workarounds" to be "back in business". Sometimes, a cup of green tea and 5 minutes timeout with closed eyes and some classic music in the background, is just awesome ;) -- LG Thomas Dubium sapientiae initium -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How to enable xorg.conf in F-11
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 17:24 -0600, Pete Zaitcev wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:25:18 -0700, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > (it may not be, > > and thanks to NetworkManager, if you can't get into X, you may well not > > have a network connection in order to install it...) > > Oh please. You're descending below Mr. Lemekhov's levels of aggression > into the passive-aggressive -- made even more dumb by the fact that > you're flat wrong. It only takes one little rpm -e NetworkManager > and then "chkconfig network on", and you're back in business. > NetworkManager is integrated into F11 with an excellent compatibility, > which ought to be commended. They could've just disabled all of the > old scripts and then your FUD above would've been the truth. > Do you really want that? er, where the hell did that come from? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How to enable xorg.conf in F-11
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:25:18 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > (it may not be, > and thanks to NetworkManager, if you can't get into X, you may well not > have a network connection in order to install it...) Oh please. You're descending below Mr. Lemekhov's levels of aggression into the passive-aggressive -- made even more dumb by the fact that you're flat wrong. It only takes one little rpm -e NetworkManager and then "chkconfig network on", and you're back in business. NetworkManager is integrated into F11 with an excellent compatibility, which ought to be commended. They could've just disabled all of the old scripts and then your FUD above would've been the truth. Do you really want that? -- Pete -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How to enable xorg.conf in F-11
Peter Lemenkov wrote: > Unfortunately, I don't use nor Gnome, neither KDE. Then Ctrl+Alt+BkSp is supposed to be already working... It's supposed to be disabled by GNOME, or by KDE if custom keyboard layouts are enabled (and there you can also set the xkb option as in GNOME), it's enabled at boot time, so if nothing changes your layout settings, it'll stay enabled. If you're using some custom hack (direct setxkbmap call?) to change the keyboard layout, you'll need to fix that hack to set the relevant xkb option. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How to enable xorg.conf in F-11
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 14:34 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > I should probably investigate and come up with a more comprehensive, > > hand-holdy note. > > My recollection is that s-c-d is not installed by default, but it does > have --set and --noui switches that allow you to turn off any attempts > to use a GUI mode while setting parameters. Indeed, I just confirmed that it's not installed by default (and noticed the --set and --noui parameters independently :>) > > I believe running Xorg -configure as root from *outside* of X will > > create a /root/xorg.conf.new file which you can move > > to /etc/X11/xorg.conf , as an alternative method. > > Just so! So you guys shamed me into doing it properly: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_xorg.conf let me know if you see any problems there. Or just fix them, it's a wiki. :) I'll be linking to it from anywhere which suggests creating an xorg.conf file. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How to enable xorg.conf in F-11
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:25:18AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 09:17 -0500, Jud Craft wrote: > > I think the Fedora release notes mention that if you run the tool > > system-config-display, it will automatically generate an xorg.conf for > > you. > > > > >From the Common F11 Bugs, under "Miscellaneous problems with Intel > > graphics adapters ": > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#intel-misc-gfx > > > > "/etc/X11/xorg.conf. If that file does not exist, you can run > > system-config-display as root to create it." > > I'm glad to see people referring to the common bugs page - yay :) > > However, I have to admit that's one of my more hand-wavey moments (I > wrote that bit) - I was in a hurry and didn't check whether a) > system-config-display is actually installed by default (it may not be, > and thanks to NetworkManager, if you can't get into X, you may well not > have a network connection in order to install it...) and b) whether it > runs in console mode. > > I should probably investigate and come up with a more comprehensive, > hand-holdy note. My recollection is that s-c-d is not installed by default, but it does have --set and --noui switches that allow you to turn off any attempts to use a GUI mode while setting parameters. > I believe running Xorg -configure as root from *outside* of X will > create a /root/xorg.conf.new file which you can move > to /etc/X11/xorg.conf , as an alternative method. Just so! -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How to enable xorg.conf in F-11
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 09:17 -0500, Jud Craft wrote: > I think the Fedora release notes mention that if you run the tool > system-config-display, it will automatically generate an xorg.conf for > you. > > >From the Common F11 Bugs, under "Miscellaneous problems with Intel > graphics adapters ": > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#intel-misc-gfx > > "/etc/X11/xorg.conf. If that file does not exist, you can run > system-config-display as root to create it." I'm glad to see people referring to the common bugs page - yay :) However, I have to admit that's one of my more hand-wavey moments (I wrote that bit) - I was in a hurry and didn't check whether a) system-config-display is actually installed by default (it may not be, and thanks to NetworkManager, if you can't get into X, you may well not have a network connection in order to install it...) and b) whether it runs in console mode. I should probably investigate and come up with a more comprehensive, hand-holdy note. I believe running Xorg -configure as root from *outside* of X will create a /root/xorg.conf.new file which you can move to /etc/X11/xorg.conf , as an alternative method. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How to enable xorg.conf in F-11
I think the Fedora release notes mention that if you run the tool system-config-display, it will automatically generate an xorg.conf for you. >From the Common F11 Bugs, under "Miscellaneous problems with Intel graphics adapters ": https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#intel-misc-gfx "/etc/X11/xorg.conf. If that file does not exist, you can run system-config-display as root to create it." -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How to enable xorg.conf in F-11
Peter Lemenkov wrote: 2009/6/11 Oscar Osta Pueyo : Hi, * How to enable traditinal ctrl+alt+backpsace behaviour ? http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/controlaltbackspace-shortcut-does-not-restart-the-x-server-in-fedora-11/ Unfortunately, I don't use nor Gnome, neither KDE. If you have an xorg.conf file, or you don't mind creating one, add Option "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" to the keyboard section. If you don't, you might try using setxkbmap on the command line. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How to enable xorg.conf in F-11
2009/6/11 Oscar Osta Pueyo : > Hi, >> * How to enable traditinal ctrl+alt+backpsace behaviour ? > > http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/controlaltbackspace-shortcut-does-not-restart-the-x-server-in-fedora-11/ Unfortunately, I don't use nor Gnome, neither KDE. -- With best regards! -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: How to enable xorg.conf in F-11
Hi, 2009/6/11 Peter Lemenkov > Hello All! > I've got some issues with Xogr on F-11. On order to fix (or properly > describe them in bugzilla, at least) I need to change some parameters > of Xorg, and the only way to make it (AFAIK) is to change values in > xorg.conf. Also I need to restart X as usial (ctrl+alt+backpsace) > > So I have the following questions: > > * How to enable traditinal ctrl+alt+backpsace behaviour ? http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/controlaltbackspace-shortcut-does-not-restart-the-x-server-in-fedora-11/ > > * How to change options for my xorg-x11-drv-ati ? > * How to dump current config from running Xorg? > * How to use config instead of relying on built-in or autodetected options? > > > PS I think that no need to describe, how I hate those guys, who > decided to disable ctrl+alt+backpsace. > > -- > With best regards! > > -- > fedora-devel-list mailing list > fedora-devel-list@redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list > -- Oscar Osta Pueyo -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
