Re: Package Kit messages...
Nathanael D. Noblet on 07/31/2009 05:27 PM wrote: > > Which is what I was trying to communicate... Should I file a bug then? > Bug[1] had been filed in Rawhide during F11 cycle. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502138 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Package Kit messages...
On 07/31/2009 05:30 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: And this is specifically PackageKit, and not some break out from it like an applet or something?... Yes, this is PackageKit. PackageKit contains an applet that appears in your notification area on your panel when there are updates or updates have completed and it is telling to logout or restart. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Package Kit messages...
On 07/31/2009 04:28 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 07/31/2009 05:27 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: Which is what I was trying to communicate... Should I file a bug then? Yes, please. CC me, too, or link me. And this is specifically PackageKit, and not some break out from it like an applet or something?... -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Package Kit messages...
On 07/31/2009 05:27 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: Which is what I was trying to communicate... Should I file a bug then? Yes, please. CC me, too, or link me. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Package Kit messages...
On 07/31/2009 09:50 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Richard Hughes on 07/31/2009 10:43 AM wrote: Not really. If you're running an old version of gimp, you can restart [snip] Fedora 10 and 11 support only 2,3 Unfortunately there's a bug somewhere then. I've been meaning to file another bug report on this. The PackageKit applet tooltip will state "You must logout" and you click on "Logout" and it presents you with a "Shutdown/Restart" Gnome dialog instead of the Logout dialog. Which is what I was trying to communicate... Should I file a bug then? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Package Kit messages...
2009/7/31 Colin Walters : > I just want to say this is great work, and was sorely needed. Do you > know if there's anyone interested in working on installing updates > before reboot/relogin? No, but it needs to be done. It's the sort of thing that PackageKit can do easily. Richard. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Package Kit messages...
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > 2009/7/31 Nathanael Noblet : >> But by 'log out' it really means reboot doesn't it? > > Not really. If you're running an old version of gimp, you can restart > the process by logging out and logging back in, you don't have to > reboot. PackageKit splits these up into about 5 categories, being: I just want to say this is great work, and was sorely needed. Do you know if there's anyone interested in working on installing updates before reboot/relogin? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Package Kit messages...
Richard Hughes on 07/31/2009 10:43 AM wrote: > > Not really. If you're running an old version of gimp, you can restart [snip] > > Fedora 10 and 11 support only 2,3 Unfortunately there's a bug somewhere then. I've been meaning to file another bug report on this. The PackageKit applet tooltip will state "You must logout" and you click on "Logout" and it presents you with a "Shutdown/Restart" Gnome dialog instead of the Logout dialog. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Package Kit messages...
2009/7/31 Nathanael Noblet : > But by 'log out' it really means reboot doesn't it? Not really. If you're running an old version of gimp, you can restart the process by logging out and logging back in, you don't have to reboot. PackageKit splits these up into about 5 categories, being: 1. application 2. session 3. system 4. security-session 5. security-system Fedora 10 and 11 support only 2,3, rawhide supports only 2,4,5 (as there is no bohdi metadata for each update) but Fedora 12 will support 2,3,4,5. Richard. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Package Kit messages...
On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: 2009/7/30 Nathanael D. Noblet : So I recently updated F11 and was told I needed to log off for the changes to take effect. When I click the yield type sign and select log off, I get the dialog for shutdown, restart, hibernate, suspend... Just a small suggestion, maybe I'm off base, but 'Log off' to me is like switch user, its a logout from X. It may be more useful to have the message state 'Restart' than log out... Am I off base? If I'm not, what component would I file against, simply PackageKit ? Well, PackageKit gets a message that a package needs a session restart -- so if you then click the icon gnome-packagekit asks the session to log out. In this case, gnome-session shows you the "interactive" dialog, which isn't ideal. But by 'log out' it really means reboot doesn't it? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Package Kit messages...
2009/7/30 Nathanael D. Noblet : > So I recently updated F11 and was told I needed to log off for the changes > to take effect. When I click the yield type sign and select log off, I get > the dialog for shutdown, restart, hibernate, suspend... Just a small > suggestion, maybe I'm off base, but 'Log off' to me is like switch user, its > a logout from X. It may be more useful to have the message state 'Restart' > than log out... > > Am I off base? If I'm not, what component would I file against, simply > PackageKit ? Well, PackageKit gets a message that a package needs a session restart -- so if you then click the icon gnome-packagekit asks the session to log out. In this case, gnome-session shows you the "interactive" dialog, which isn't ideal. Ricahrd. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Package Kit messages...
On 30/07/09 20:02, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: Hello, So I recently updated F11 and was told I needed to log off for the changes to take effect. When I click the yield type sign and select log off, I get the dialog for shutdown, restart, hibernate, suspend... Just a small suggestion, maybe I'm off base, but 'Log off' to me is like switch user, its a logout from X. It may be more useful to have the message state 'Restart' than log out... Am I off base? If I'm not, what component would I file against, simply PackageKit ? Kernel, probably got updated in which case. Restart would be preferable. But you should really address user question to the relevant end-user list: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate#User_Mailing_Lists usually: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
