Re: Too eager?

2009-06-11 Thread Jon Ciesla

Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:30:37 -0400, James wrote:

  

On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 20:22 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:


Given you are
trying to update via. yum, just enabling updates-testing should be the
most fun :). Or you can always just download the above yum, and use yum
shell to update everything else and yum via. the local file.


And how do I install an F-11 yum RPM in F-10, which lacks python 2.6?
I get the same thing with or without updates-testing for F-11.
  

 As I said:

1. yum upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing

2. yumdownloader --repoid=updates-testing yum
   cat EOL | yum shell
upgrade
install yum-3.2.23-3.fc11.noarch.rpm
run
EOL

 #1 means you'll get all the other updates from updates-testing, #2 is
more typing.



In #2 one also needs --enablerepo=updates-testing instead of --repoid=...
and one must be very careful with typos. If Yum cannot find the
packages given to it via install, it fails badly with an interrupted
transaction and (in case of F10 = F11) an unreadible RPM DB that
needs manual repair.

  
Thanks for the suggestions.  However the first fails as before, and the 
second fails due to libvte being broken, which I understand is being fixed.


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Re: Too eager?

2009-06-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:08:00 -0500, Jon wrote:

  1. yum upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing
 
  2. yumdownloader --repoid=updates-testing yum
 cat EOL | yum shell
  upgrade
  install yum-3.2.23-3.fc11.noarch.rpm
  run
  EOL
 
   #1 means you'll get all the other updates from updates-testing, #2 is
  more typing.
  
 
  In #2 one also needs --enablerepo=updates-testing instead of --repoid=...
  and one must be very careful with typos. If Yum cannot find the
  packages given to it via install, it fails badly with an interrupted
  transaction and (in case of F10 = F11) an unreadible RPM DB that
  needs manual repair.
 

 Thanks for the suggestions.  However the first fails as before, and the 
 second fails due to libvte being broken, which I understand is being fixed.

For #2 you need to _disable_ updates-testing, that's why you enable
it only for yumdownloader. Due to the vte breakage you cannot enable
it permanently for the upgrade, but you also need the newer ntp* packages
from updates-testing. The release of F11 could have been much smoother
for those who upgrade via Yum. Violated upgrade paths are bad.

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Re: Too eager?

2009-06-09 Thread Jon Ciesla

Jonathan Dieter wrote:

On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:17 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
  

I installed F-11 fedora-release* and did yum clean all ; yum update

I got YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.

This is a fully updated F-10 system.  Manually filling in releasever and 
basearch in fedora.repo for basearch and mirrorlist make no difference.  
Something up?



See
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-June/msg00783.html , if
you have the same line that says Eg. /metalink/, then I think that's
the solution.

Jonathan
  

That's my error, but that doesn't help.  yum-3.2.21-2.fc10.noarch.

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Re: Too eager?

2009-06-09 Thread Ralf Corsepius

Jon Ciesla wrote:

I installed F-11 fedora-release* and did yum clean all ; yum update

I got YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498720
This is a fully updated F-10 system.  Manually filling in releasever and 
basearch in fedora.repo for basearch and mirrorlist make no difference.  
Something up?


Sound like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498720

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Re: Too eager?

2009-06-09 Thread Jon Ciesla

James Antill wrote:

On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:37 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
  

Jonathan Dieter wrote:


On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:17 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
  
  

I installed F-11 fedora-release* and did yum clean all ; yum update

I got YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.

This is a fully updated F-10 system.  Manually filling in releasever and 
basearch in fedora.repo for basearch and mirrorlist make no difference.  
Something up?



See
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-June/msg00783.html , if
you have the same line that says Eg. /metalink/, then I think that's
the solution.

Jonathan
  
  

That's my error, but that doesn't help.  yum-3.2.21-2.fc10.noarch.



 Easiest thing to do is probably just get the yum from Fed-10
updates-testing, which is 3.2.23 and understands metalink and metalink
as mirrorlist.

  

Success!  I trust this will be pushed to F-10 stable with a quickness?

Thanks all,

-J

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Re: Too eager?

2009-06-09 Thread Jon Ciesla

Jon Ciesla wrote:

James Antill wrote:

On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:37 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
 

Jonathan Dieter wrote:
   

On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:17 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
   

I installed F-11 fedora-release* and did yum clean all ; yum update

I got YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or 
file.


This is a fully updated F-10 system.  Manually filling in 
releasever and basearch in fedora.repo for basearch and mirrorlist 
make no difference.  Something up?


See
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-June/msg00783.html 
, if
you have the same line that says Eg. /metalink/, then I think 
that's

the solution.

Jonathan


That's my error, but that doesn't help.  yum-3.2.21-2.fc10.noarch.



 Easiest thing to do is probably just get the yum from Fed-10
updates-testing, which is 3.2.23 and understands metalink and metalink
as mirrorlist.

  

Success!  I trust this will be pushed to F-10 stable with a quickness?

Thanks all,

-J

Of course, now we have dependency problems, that --skip-broken won't 
touch. . .


Error: Missing Dependency: libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package 
nx-3.3.0-33.fc10.i386 (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package 
ntp-4.2.4p7-1.fc10.i386 (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 is needed by package 
yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch (installed)


Normally I'd remove the offending packages, but I sorta need yum. . .and 
openssl. . .


Any suggestions?

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Re: Too eager?

2009-06-09 Thread James Antill
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 14:55 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
 Jon Ciesla wrote:
  James Antill wrote:
  On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:37 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
   
  Jonathan Dieter wrote:
 
  On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:17 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
 
  I installed F-11 fedora-release* and did yum clean all ; yum update
 
  I got YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or 
  file.
 
  This is a fully updated F-10 system.  Manually filling in 
  releasever and basearch in fedora.repo for basearch and mirrorlist 
  make no difference.  Something up?
  
  See
  https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-June/msg00783.html 
  , if
  you have the same line that says Eg. /metalink/, then I think 
  that's
  the solution.
 
  Jonathan
  
  That's my error, but that doesn't help.  yum-3.2.21-2.fc10.noarch.
  
 
   Easiest thing to do is probably just get the yum from Fed-10
  updates-testing, which is 3.2.23 and understands metalink and metalink
  as mirrorlist.
 

  Success!  I trust this will be pushed to F-10 stable with a quickness?
 
  Thanks all,
 
  -J
 
 Of course, now we have dependency problems, that --skip-broken won't 
 touch. . .
 
 Error: Missing Dependency: libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package 
 nx-3.3.0-33.fc10.i386 (installed)
 Error: Missing Dependency: libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package 
 ntp-4.2.4p7-1.fc10.i386 (installed)
 Error: Missing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 is needed by package 
 yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch (installed)
 
 Normally I'd remove the offending packages, but I sorta need yum. . .and 
 openssl. . .
 
 Any suggestions?

 The yum in Fed-11 updates-testing is yum-3.2.23-3.fc11.noarch.rpm,
which is newer than the one in Fed-10 updates-testing. Given you are
trying to update via. yum, just enabling updates-testing should be the
most fun :). Or you can always just download the above yum, and use yum
shell to update everything else and yum via. the local file.

 Or there is always preupgrade, which is the suppor^W less fun way to do
it :).

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Re: Too eager?

2009-06-09 Thread Jon Ciesla



 On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 14:55 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
 Jon Ciesla wrote:
  James Antill wrote:
  On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:37 -0500, Jon Ciesla
wrote:
 
  Jonathan Dieter
wrote:
 
  On Tue,
2009-06-09 at 11:17 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:


  I installed F-11
fedora-release* and did yum clean all ; yum
 update
 
  I got
YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or

 file.
 
  This is a fully updated F-10 system. 
Manually filling in
  releasever and
basearch in fedora.repo for basearch and mirrorlist

 make no difference.  Something up?


  See


https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-June/msg00783.html
  , if
  you have
the same line that says Eg. /metalink/, then I
think
  that's
 
the solution.
 

 Jonathan
 

 That's my error, but that doesn't help. 
yum-3.2.21-2.fc10.noarch.
 


   Easiest thing to do is probably just get
the yum from Fed-10
  updates-testing, which is
3.2.23 and understands metalink and
 metalink

 as mirrorlist.
 
 
  Success!  I trust this will be pushed to F-10 stable with
a quickness?
 
  Thanks all,
 
  -J
 
 Of
course, now we have dependency problems, that --skip-broken won't
 touch. . .

 Error: Missing
Dependency: libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package

nx-3.3.0-33.fc10.i386 (installed)
 Error: Missing Dependency:
libcrypto.so.7 is needed by package
 ntp-4.2.4p7-1.fc10.i386
(installed)
 Error: Missing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.5 is
needed by package
 yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch (installed)

 Normally I'd remove the offending packages, but I
sorta need yum. . .and
 openssl. . .

 Any suggestions?
 
  The yum in Fed-11
updates-testing is yum-3.2.23-3.fc11.noarch.rpm,
 which is newer
than the one in Fed-10 updates-testing. Given you are
 trying to
update via. yum, just enabling updates-testing should be the

most fun :). Or you can always just download the above yum, and use yum
 shell to update everything else and yum via. the local file.

And how do I install an F-11 yum RPM in F-10, which lacks python
2.6?  I get the same thing with or without updates-testing for
F-11.

Preupgrade isn't a very good option for some of my hosts,
due to lack of X and restrictions on downtime.  Yum Should Work if
all the deps and EVRs are right.  :)

  Or there is
always preupgrade, which is the suppor^W less fun way to do
 it
:).
 
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Re: Too eager?

2009-06-09 Thread James Antill
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 20:22 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
  Given you are
  trying to update via. yum, just enabling updates-testing should be the
  most fun :). Or you can always just download the above yum, and use yum
  shell to update everything else and yum via. the local file.
 
 And how do I install an F-11 yum RPM in F-10, which lacks python 2.6?
 I get the same thing with or without updates-testing for F-11.

 As I said:

1. yum upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing

2. yumdownloader --repoid=updates-testing yum
   cat EOL | yum shell
upgrade
install yum-3.2.23-3.fc11.noarch.rpm
run
EOL

 #1 means you'll get all the other updates from updates-testing, #2 is
more typing.

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