Re: Review: Fedora 12 Alpha Release Notes

2009-08-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/11/2009 02:12 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 20:38 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 Hi,

 Wit the Fedora 12 Alpha release coming up shortly, now would be a good
 time to review the release notes. Make sure the major features are
 covered, import bugs and workarounds noted etc

 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Alpha_release_notes

 Please edit the wiki directly for any improvements if you can or reply
 with suggestions. Thanks.
 
 I've added a section on new virt features, but also this:
 
   Changes to System Defaults
 
   For security and performance reasons, iptables rules are now longer
   applied by default to frames forwarded across linux kernel ethernet
   bridges. See bug #512206 for more details on the rationale behind this
   change.
 
   Historically, uids and gids 0-100 are reserved for specific system
   accounts and allocated via the uidgid file in the setup package. This
   space has now been exhausted and 0-200 is now reserved. This should
   not be an issue on most systems because dynamically allocated system
   accounts are usually allocated downwards from 499. See bug 515779 and
   bug #511957 for more details.

Thanks.

 I'm not sure this is the right place for this stuff? Also, where do I
 put them to make sure they get into the final F12 release notes?

The two things I ask myself before adding something to the Alpha or Beta
release notes is a) is this feature high impact? b) can it cause
regressions or does it require targeted testing? If either or both of it
is true, then it is worth adding.

We will generally carry over what is added to the alpha/beta one page
release notes to the final one but if you want to do that yourself, do
that in

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Beats

Rahul

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Re: Review: Fedora 12 Alpha Release Notes

2009-08-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 14:26 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 On 08/11/2009 01:49 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
  On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 20:38 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Wit the Fedora 12 Alpha release coming up shortly, now would be a good
  time to review the release notes. Make sure the major features are
  covered, import bugs and workarounds noted etc
 
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Alpha_release_notes
  
  I'd actually prefer to keep bugs and workarounds noted in the Common
  Bugs page now, if that's OK with you. My plan since re-working the
  Common Bugs page for F11 has been to have the F12 page start with the
  Alpha release, and cover pre-release issues right up until the final
  release, then switch to covering final release issues. I'll try and put
  a bare-bones page framework up soon.
 
 Users won't necessarily click on another link usually just to read about
 bug reports and this has a higher chance of them not noticing. It is
 your decision however.

On the other hand, as discussed in the docs list, we're trying to keep
release notes pages short this release on the off-chance someone will
actually read them :). My intention is really to have the Common Bugs
page become an 'obvious' destination (one that people get used to
looking at) in its own right, which is where I got to with the Errata
page in Mandriva.

So far the F11 Common Bugs page has been visited 57,000 times, so it's
obviously getting around :). The F10 page has just over 40k hits, and
obviously it's had a six month head start. So we're getting somewhere
with that.

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Re: Review: Fedora 12 Alpha Release Notes

2009-08-10 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Rahul Sundaram on 08/10/2009 10:08 AM wrote:
 Please edit the wiki directly for any improvements if you can or reply
 with suggestions. Thanks.

Why are some internal Fedora wiki links set as external links?

For example:
[https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Dracut Dracut]
instead of
[[Dracut]]

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Re: Review: Fedora 12 Alpha Release Notes

2009-08-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/10/2009 09:00 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
 Rahul Sundaram on 08/10/2009 10:08 AM wrote:
 Please edit the wiki directly for any improvements if you can or reply
 with suggestions. Thanks.
 
 Why are some internal Fedora wiki links set as external links?

No particular reason. Fixed.

Rahul

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Re: Review: Fedora 12 Alpha Release Notes

2009-08-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 20:38 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Wit the Fedora 12 Alpha release coming up shortly, now would be a good
 time to review the release notes. Make sure the major features are
 covered, import bugs and workarounds noted etc
 
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Alpha_release_notes

I'd actually prefer to keep bugs and workarounds noted in the Common
Bugs page now, if that's OK with you. My plan since re-working the
Common Bugs page for F11 has been to have the F12 page start with the
Alpha release, and cover pre-release issues right up until the final
release, then switch to covering final release issues. I'll try and put
a bare-bones page framework up soon.

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