Re: Split Media - A use case
Bill McGonigle wrote: One population I've been recommending for Fedora lately is folks with Apple PPC gear which has been abandoned by Apple. Devices like iBooks often came standard with CD-ROM. PPC is planned to become a secondary architecture in Fedora 13. At that point, it will be up to the secondary architecture team to decide how they will ship Fedora for PPCs. (But of course they will need split media support in Anaconda if they're planning to ship split CDs.) Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Split Media - A use case
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:40:07AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Bill McGonigle wrote: One population I've been recommending for Fedora lately is folks with Apple PPC gear which has been abandoned by Apple. Devices like iBooks often came standard with CD-ROM. PPC is planned to become a secondary architecture in Fedora 13. At that point, it will be up to the secondary architecture team to decide how they will ship Fedora for PPCs. (But of course they will need split media support in Anaconda if they're planning to ship split CDs.) I have no qualms about dropping split media support in regards to PPC. josh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Split Media - A use case
On 15/06/09 08:15, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: I'm providing severl friends and relatives with CD install images via these genned iso's. So at least 5 more CD sets would have been fetched if I didn't do this. What was the underlying reason for the CDS' over DVD\LiveCD? Frank -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Split Media - A use case
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 04:28 -0400, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: That's what they wanted to use :-) Sorry, I'm not seeing that as a valid use case. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Split Media - A use case
G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: That's what they wanted to use :-) besides it was quicker to gen them than to download the live CDs or DVDs. CDs will be much slower than a DVD in terms of read speed. You'll also have to swap disks out during install (hello 1998). Why do they want to use CDs? In fact, why are you wasting a DVD or CDs? That's not very green of you. Give them a USB stick with the DVD install ISO loaded on it so it can be reused for more useful things. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Split Media - A use case
On 06/15/2009 12:24 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: In fact, why are you wasting a DVD or CDs? That's not very green of you. Give them a USB stick with the DVD install ISO loaded on it so it can be reused for more useful things. On a machine with only a CD drive, it's not unreasonable to assume either a BIOS that can't boot a USB stick or USB 1, which is likely slower than IDE CD. One population I've been recommending for Fedora lately is folks with Apple PPC gear which has been abandoned by Apple. Devices like iBooks often came standard with CD-ROM. If I'm helping someone with an install, it's usually at my office with a fast cable modem. Around here, though, more than half of the population is on dial-up. Even a LiveCD install isn't sufficient for many of them, though delta RPM's are a major advance for them, once they've installed the bulk of data. Does Fedora want to exclude folks with old machines on dial-up? That would be a strategic decision with positive and negative implications. I seed the Centos 5.3 CD's because I use them quite a bit on older servers and see that set as one of my highest bandwidth users. The mindset seemed to be for a while, for servers, it's not a multimedia machine, it doesn't need DVD. That's the height of narrow foresight, but seemingly common in mid-sized companies' data centers. And getting a replacement DVD for their stupid proprietary slim CD slot is somewhere between ludicrously expensive and impossible. But they usually have USB2. I could probably count a dozen machines I've installed from my own CD set. Really, though, if I can compose a CD set from a repo or DVD, and it's ridiculously easy, I don't care if it's on the mirrors. Does jigdo make it that easy? I haven't tried yet. Does smolt report data on optical drives in machines? -Bill -- Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Cell: 603.252.2606 Twitter, etc.: bill_mcgonigle Page: 603.442.1833 Email, IM, VOIP: b...@bfccomputing.com Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
