Re: Thunderbird 3.0rc1

2009-10-20 Thread nodata

Am 2009-10-19 23:17, schrieb Matěj Cepl:

Dne 19.10.2009 21:05, mcloaked napsal(a):

I don't know if you saw the rather extended thread recently concerning the
release of thunderbird 3.0b4 but there were significant problems with GLODA.


Were there any other problems than OMG, indexing my 2.5GB of emails
takes a lot of CPU and time, so I why is this crap switched on?


To stop thunderbird searching through 2.5GB of emails each time you run 
a search?


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Re: Thunderbird 3.0rc1

2009-10-19 Thread Mike Cloaked
Mike Cloaked mike.cloaked at gmail.com writes:

 
 Will a build of Thunderbird 3.0rc1 be pushed to updates-testing for F11 
 when it is released? 
 
 From MozillaWiki I note that the plan is: Start build: 3rd November 
 (est 10th Nov) so this will likely be around 3 weeks away.

I just started using Thunderbird 3.0pre (via the upstream nightly tarball)
 and it is much better than the 3.0b4 version that is in f11...




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Re: Thunderbird 3.0rc1

2009-10-19 Thread Julian Sikorski
W dniu 18.10.2009 22:45, Mike Cloaked pisze:
 Will a build of Thunderbird 3.0rc1 be pushed to updates-testing for F11 when 
 it
 is released? 
 
From MozillaWiki I note that the plan is: Start build: 3rd November (est 10th
 Nov) so this will likely be around 3 weeks away.
 
 Thanks
 
What makes you think it won't?

Julian

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Re: Thunderbird 3.0rc1

2009-10-19 Thread Mike Cloaked
Julian Sikorski belegdol at gmail.com writes:

  Will a build of Thunderbird 3.0rc1 be pushed to updates-testing for F11 
 when it is released? 

 What makes you think it won't?
 
 Julian
 

I did wonder what the process would be after all the kerfuffle with TB3.0b4 

I presume that it will go out with GLODA and smart folders turned OFF?

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Re: Thunderbird 3.0rc1

2009-10-19 Thread David
On 10/19/2009 12:58 PM, Mike Cloaked wrote:
 Julian Sikorski belegdol at gmail.com writes:
 
 Will a build of Thunderbird 3.0rc1 be pushed to updates-testing for F11 
 when it is released? 
 
 What makes you think it won't?

 Julian

 
 I did wonder what the process would be after all the kerfuffle with TB3.0b4 
 
 I presume that it will go out with GLODA and smart folders turned OFF?
 


GLODA  -  Global Search and Indexer  -  is defaulted disabled from
Mozilla. I am forever seeing users talking about having 'emails going
back years' and this feature would help in searching for that question
and answer that might solve a problem. And once indexing is done the
first time it is not a 'machine stopper' to use it enabled.

However you don't need it if you only want to count the emails and never
search them.  ;-)

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Re: Thunderbird 3.0rc1

2009-10-19 Thread mcloaked
David dgboles at gmail.com writes:

  I presume that it will go out with GLODA and smart folders turned OFF?
  
 
 GLODA  -  Global Search and Indexer  -  is defaulted disabled from
 Mozilla. I am forever seeing users talking about having 'emails going
 back years' and this feature would help in searching for that question
 and answer that might solve a problem. And once indexing is done the
 first time it is not a 'machine stopper' to use it enabled.
 
 However you don't need it if you only want to count the emails and never
 search them.  

I don't know if you saw the rather extended thread recently concerning the 
release of thunderbird 3.0b4 but there were significant problems with GLODA. 
 Having it off by default and make sure users are informed that it is 
available is the better way to do things - however in 3.0b4 it was ON 
by default and caused a huge headache for users with significant volumes 
of mail across multiple accounts.

I'll refer to the thread if you missed it.




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Re: Thunderbird 3.0rc1

2009-10-19 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 19.10.2009 21:05, mcloaked napsal(a):
 I don't know if you saw the rather extended thread recently concerning the 
 release of thunderbird 3.0b4 but there were significant problems with GLODA. 

Were there any other problems than OMG, indexing my 2.5GB of emails
takes a lot of CPU and time, so I why is this crap switched on?

Matěj
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Re: Thunderbird 3.0rc1

2009-10-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/20/2009 12:45 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
 mcloaked on 10/19/2009 02:05 PM wrote:

 I don't know if you saw the rather extended thread recently concerning the 
 release of thunderbird 3.0b4 but there were significant problems with GLODA. 
  Having it off by default and make sure users are informed that it is 
 available is the better way to do things - however in 3.0b4 it was ON 
 by default and caused a huge headache for users with significant volumes 
 of mail across multiple accounts.
 
 
 I'm not intending to start another long thread on it so any reply after
 this will not see a matching one from me.
 
 The total user count of people having issues with GLODA was 2. Two. Dos.

.. Umm. No.  There were more feedback from many others c.f. fedoraforum
for example.

Rahul

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Re: Thunderbird 3.0rc1

2009-10-19 Thread David
On 10/19/2009 3:05 PM, mcloaked wrote:
 David dgboles at gmail.com writes:
 
 I presume that it will go out with GLODA and smart folders turned OFF?


 GLODA  -  Global Search and Indexer  -  is defaulted disabled from
 Mozilla. I am forever seeing users talking about having 'emails going
 back years' and this feature would help in searching for that question
 and answer that might solve a problem. And once indexing is done the
 first time it is not a 'machine stopper' to use it enabled.

 However you don't need it if you only want to count the emails and never
 search them.  
 
 I don't know if you saw the rather extended thread recently concerning the 
 release of thunderbird 3.0b4 but there were significant problems with GLODA. 
  Having it off by default and make sure users are informed that it is 
 available is the better way to do things - however in 3.0b4 it was ON 
 by default and caused a huge headache for users with significant volumes 
 of mail across multiple accounts.
 
 I'll refer to the thread if you missed it.


I had no problems with Thunderbird 3.0b4 or any of the nightly builds
that have lead up to it. Once or twice over the many months I had a
'bad day' but it was corrected by the next night's build. I should say
that these are Mozilla nightly builds and not Fedora's. I currently am
using 3.0pre dated Oct 19, 2009. I turned on GLODA as soon as it was
available. It took some time to complete the first time. From then on it
takes nothing that I can never notice unless I see the information show
up in the activity notification area.

As for the thread you mentioned? I saw that I seem to recall that no one
really had a problem other than the amount of time it took to do the
indexing the first time. But I did not find that a major problem or
experience any others with the 3.0b4 series. And to repeat myself -
these were *not* Fedora supplied packages. They came directly from Mozilla.

I also get my Firefox nightly-build packages directly from Mozilla.
Mozilla does not force all of those language packages on me as Fedora
does.  :-)

But seriously if you think that this is really important you should
write a Bugzilla on it so that the maintainer(s) will know about this.
Writing to a mailing list normally only generates message threads.
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Thunderbird 3.0rc1

2009-10-18 Thread Mike Cloaked
Will a build of Thunderbird 3.0rc1 be pushed to updates-testing for F11 when it
is released? 

From MozillaWiki I note that the plan is: Start build: 3rd November (est 10th
Nov) so this will likely be around 3 weeks away.

Thanks

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