Re: abrt / kernel oops issue
On 11/12/2009 06:50 PM, Dan Williams wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 10:31 -0700, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: Hello, I've been running F12/rawhide from a preupgrade from F11 for a couple weeks now. I've just recently noticed the abrt feature. I started submitting the bugs it found in the kerneloops. Which has me wondering couple things. #1 - I have many many kerneloops, each stacktrace/log snippet seems fairly identical. I assume you would prefer not to get 20 identical abrt submitted bugs? Or should I submit them all? #2 - When looking at the trace it has the following line(s): Nov 10 09:15:57 iridium kernel: WARNING: at lib/list_debug.c:30 __list_add+0x68/0x81() (Tainted: GW ) ... Nov 10 09:15:57 iridium kernel: Pid: 2197, comm: Xorg Tainted: G W 2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64 #1 I'm wondering why it is saying it is tainted.. or maybe Tainted: G mean Good?? I don't have any closed source modules loaded as far as I know. Unless Virtualbox is closed source but I didn't think it was. Virtualbox isn't running when this happens, though the module seems to be loaded. If you have an oops or BUG of any sort, I think that sets the taint flag for further oops reports, because after the first one you can't really trust that the stacktrace or internal kernel structures aren't corrupted. Most of the time they aren't, but you simply can't trust that. So I'd expect the first one to be untainted, and then subsequent oops reports to have the taint flag set. Of course if you start loading random kernel modules that didn't come with the kernel itself, you can also taint the kernel. If you have staging drivers loaded, you'll have the taint_crap flag set because staging drivers are crap. Dan #3 Validity of the bugs it is finding... It calls the following a kerneloops... Nov 11 16:56:41 iridium gnome-session[2259]: WARNING: Could not parse desktop file /etc/xdg/autostart/network-manager-netbook.desktop: Key file does not have key 'Name' Nov 11 16:56:41 iridium gnome-session[2259]: WARNING: could not read /etc/xdg/autostart/network-manager-netbook.desktop Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: executing set pll Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: executing set crtc timing Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: [drm] TMDS-15: set mode 25 Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: executing set pll Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: executing set crtc timing Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: [drm] TMDS-11: set mode 2f Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: fuse init (API version 7.12) Nov 11 16:56:43 iridium pulseaudio[2406]: pid.c: Daemon already running. Nov 11 16:56:46 iridium restorecond: Unable to watch (/home//public_html/*) No such file or directory do I submit this anyway? Thanks, just rying to do my part without burying you guys in senseless bug reports. ABRT's kerneloops plugin had some problems with false alarms, this should be fixed in the next release (this week). Jirka attachment: jmoskovc.vcf-- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
abrt / kernel oops issue
Hello, I've been running F12/rawhide from a preupgrade from F11 for a couple weeks now. I've just recently noticed the abrt feature. I started submitting the bugs it found in the kerneloops. Which has me wondering couple things. #1 - I have many many kerneloops, each stacktrace/log snippet seems fairly identical. I assume you would prefer not to get 20 identical abrt submitted bugs? Or should I submit them all? #2 - When looking at the trace it has the following line(s): Nov 10 09:15:57 iridium kernel: WARNING: at lib/list_debug.c:30 __list_add+0x68/0x81() (Tainted: GW ) ... Nov 10 09:15:57 iridium kernel: Pid: 2197, comm: Xorg Tainted: G W 2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64 #1 I'm wondering why it is saying it is tainted.. or maybe Tainted: G mean Good?? I don't have any closed source modules loaded as far as I know. Unless Virtualbox is closed source but I didn't think it was. Virtualbox isn't running when this happens, though the module seems to be loaded. #3 Validity of the bugs it is finding... It calls the following a kerneloops... Nov 11 16:56:41 iridium gnome-session[2259]: WARNING: Could not parse desktop file /etc/xdg/autostart/network-manager-netbook.desktop: Key file does not have key 'Name' Nov 11 16:56:41 iridium gnome-session[2259]: WARNING: could not read /etc/xdg/autostart/network-manager-netbook.desktop Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: executing set pll Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: executing set crtc timing Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: [drm] TMDS-15: set mode 25 Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: executing set pll Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: executing set crtc timing Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: [drm] TMDS-11: set mode 2f Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: fuse init (API version 7.12) Nov 11 16:56:43 iridium pulseaudio[2406]: pid.c: Daemon already running. Nov 11 16:56:46 iridium restorecond: Unable to watch (/home//public_html/*) No such file or directory do I submit this anyway? Thanks, just rying to do my part without burying you guys in senseless bug reports. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: abrt / kernel oops issue
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 10:31 -0700, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: Hello, I've been running F12/rawhide from a preupgrade from F11 for a couple weeks now. I've just recently noticed the abrt feature. I started submitting the bugs it found in the kerneloops. Which has me wondering couple things. #1 - I have many many kerneloops, each stacktrace/log snippet seems fairly identical. I assume you would prefer not to get 20 identical abrt submitted bugs? Or should I submit them all? #2 - When looking at the trace it has the following line(s): Nov 10 09:15:57 iridium kernel: WARNING: at lib/list_debug.c:30 __list_add+0x68/0x81() (Tainted: GW ) ... Nov 10 09:15:57 iridium kernel: Pid: 2197, comm: Xorg Tainted: G W 2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64 #1 I'm wondering why it is saying it is tainted.. or maybe Tainted: G mean Good?? I don't have any closed source modules loaded as far as I know. Unless Virtualbox is closed source but I didn't think it was. Virtualbox isn't running when this happens, though the module seems to be loaded. If you have an oops or BUG of any sort, I think that sets the taint flag for further oops reports, because after the first one you can't really trust that the stacktrace or internal kernel structures aren't corrupted. Most of the time they aren't, but you simply can't trust that. So I'd expect the first one to be untainted, and then subsequent oops reports to have the taint flag set. Of course if you start loading random kernel modules that didn't come with the kernel itself, you can also taint the kernel. If you have staging drivers loaded, you'll have the taint_crap flag set because staging drivers are crap. Dan #3 Validity of the bugs it is finding... It calls the following a kerneloops... Nov 11 16:56:41 iridium gnome-session[2259]: WARNING: Could not parse desktop file /etc/xdg/autostart/network-manager-netbook.desktop: Key file does not have key 'Name' Nov 11 16:56:41 iridium gnome-session[2259]: WARNING: could not read /etc/xdg/autostart/network-manager-netbook.desktop Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: executing set pll Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: executing set crtc timing Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: [drm] TMDS-15: set mode 25 Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: executing set pll Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: executing set crtc timing Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: [drm] TMDS-11: set mode 2f Nov 11 16:56:42 iridium kernel: fuse init (API version 7.12) Nov 11 16:56:43 iridium pulseaudio[2406]: pid.c: Daemon already running. Nov 11 16:56:46 iridium restorecond: Unable to watch (/home//public_html/*) No such file or directory do I submit this anyway? Thanks, just rying to do my part without burying you guys in senseless bug reports. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: abrt / kernel oops issue
On 11/12/2009 10:50 AM, Dan Williams wrote: If you have an oops or BUG of any sort, I think that sets the taint flag for further oops reports, because after the first one you can't really trust that the stacktrace or internal kernel structures aren't corrupted. Most of the time they aren't, but you simply can't trust that. So I'd expect the first one to be untainted, and then subsequent oops reports to have the taint flag set. I see.. I'll have to reboot and see if the first one is not being marked as tainted. Of course if you start loading random kernel modules that didn't come with the kernel itself, you can also taint the kernel. If you have staging drivers loaded, you'll have the taint_crap flag set because staging drivers are crap. I'm not manually loading anything, and the only module I have loaded that isn't part of the kernel rpm package itself is Virtualbox. Which I can remove or not load to see if it makes a difference. I have to also note that I didn't even know I was having kernel oops until abrt popped up. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: abrt / kernel oops issue
Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: Unless Virtualbox is closed source but I didn't think it was. VirtualBox is proprietary. VirtualBox OSE (Open Source Edition) is Free Software. RPM Fusion (Free section) ships the latter. Upstream packages only the former, they only distribute the OSE in source form. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
