Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-12 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 12:17:39PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> All of the cross-compiled apps

... by which I mean apps cross-compiled using our libraries,
like mingw32-gtk2.

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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-12 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:35:42PM -0400, David wrote:
> Would you please name "some very modern day applications that are
> written for the windows platform" that will run in a Linux current
> version of WINE? That will run under the currently available WINE in
> Fedora 11. Names and versions. _Real_ applications. The ones that
> ordinary 'users' want. Not the geeky ones that 'Linux geeks' want.

All of the cross-compiled apps from the Fedora MinGW project.  If you
find one which doesn't work in Wine, please file a bug about it.

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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-12 Thread Joshua C.
2009/7/12 Joonas Sarajärvi :
> 2009/7/12, David :
>> Would you please name "some very modern day applications that are
>> written for the windows platform" that will run in a Linux current
>> version of WINE? That will run under the currently available WINE in
>> Fedora 11. Names and versions. _Real_ applications. The ones that
>> ordinary 'users' want. Not the geeky ones that 'Linux geeks' want.
>>
>> I am serious here. Really. The names are...?
>
> For me,
> - Spotify
>
> And a quite long list of games, including
> - the IL-2 Sturmovik series
> - the Homeworld series
> - Trainz
> - Areena 5
> - Diablo II
> - Command & Conquer (might be close to a DOS game, but it's still win32)
> - Sim City 4
> - Age of Mythology
> - Rollercoaster tycoon
> - and many more
>
> I consider games to be a real use case.
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HEY, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL DISCUSSION, PLEASE!!!

I'm not a newbey and I've been using my kick files for the last 3-4
months. This is the first time that I got 32 bit apps in my livecd.

The most strange thing is that after deleting all *.i?86, yum deletes
some x86_64 apps as well. After this i tried to install back the
deleted x86_64 and the same i?86 are pulled in as dependencies. I
don't know how this could have happened.

I do saw that there is some update to yum (in koji) which says
something like "making livecd-creator works again". Maybe I just hit
some nasty bug.

I'll try to compose one more x86_64 livecd and if this happenes agian
I'll file a bug against yum (or livecd-creator)

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PS: I've never used wine and it's not included in my kick files (so
please stop this windoof discussion)

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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-12 Thread Joonas Sarajärvi
2009/7/12, David :
> Would you please name "some very modern day applications that are
> written for the windows platform" that will run in a Linux current
> version of WINE? That will run under the currently available WINE in
> Fedora 11. Names and versions. _Real_ applications. The ones that
> ordinary 'users' want. Not the geeky ones that 'Linux geeks' want.
>
> I am serious here. Really. The names are...?

For me,
- Spotify

And a quite long list of games, including
- the IL-2 Sturmovik series
- the Homeworld series
- Trainz
- Areena 5
- Diablo II
- Command & Conquer (might be close to a DOS game, but it's still win32)
- Sim City 4
- Age of Mythology
- Rollercoaster tycoon
- and many more

I consider games to be a real use case.
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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-12 Thread drago01
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 11:17 AM, drago01 wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:35 AM, David wrote:
>> On 7/11/2009 9:35 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 11, 2009, at 17:03, David  wrote:
>>>
 On 7/11/2009 6:17 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Frank Murphy wrote:
>> Doesn't seem to work for wine :)
>
> That's because WINE is only 32-bit, because most Winblow$ executables
> are.
>
>        Kevin Kofler


 "Winblow$"?

 You really should learn some control here.

 The 'real guys'. The developers, code writers, people-in-the-know, show
 respect where respect is warranted.

 Microsoft should recieve that respect IMO.

 90% of the desktop computers in the world use some version of Windows.
 More desktop computers use some form of Mac OS than all combined
 versions (distributions) of Linux.

 WINE? Is a nice concept. But it will never, again IMO, as long as the
 'Windows programs' that WINE can run are mostly really old DOS programs.

 Sheesh.
 --

>>>
>>> Perhaps you should do a little research before you spout off. Wine is
>>> capable of running very modern day applications that are written for the
>>> windows platform. It is anything but old dos programs.
>>
>>
>> Mr. Keating. May I call you Jessie? I know who you are and I respect you
>> a lot.
>>
>> Would you please name "some very modern day applications that are
>> written for the windows platform" that will run in a Linux current
>> version of WINE? That will run under the currently available WINE in
>> Fedora 11. Names and versions. _Real_ applications. The ones that
>> ordinary 'users' want. Not the geeky ones that 'Linux geeks' want.
>>
>> I am serious here. Really. The names are...?
>
> Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Office, Microsoft Visio, Quicken, Lotus
> Notes and games like WoW, CoD, Halflife, Counter Strike + many more.
>
> Sure they are all "old DOS programs" that nobody uses 
>

Forgot to add wine does not even support DOS programs (you can use
dosbox for them)

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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-12 Thread drago01
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:35 AM, David wrote:
> On 7/11/2009 9:35 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Jul 11, 2009, at 17:03, David  wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/11/2009 6:17 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Frank Murphy wrote:
> Doesn't seem to work for wine :)

 That's because WINE is only 32-bit, because most Winblow$ executables
 are.

        Kevin Kofler
>>>
>>>
>>> "Winblow$"?
>>>
>>> You really should learn some control here.
>>>
>>> The 'real guys'. The developers, code writers, people-in-the-know, show
>>> respect where respect is warranted.
>>>
>>> Microsoft should recieve that respect IMO.
>>>
>>> 90% of the desktop computers in the world use some version of Windows.
>>> More desktop computers use some form of Mac OS than all combined
>>> versions (distributions) of Linux.
>>>
>>> WINE? Is a nice concept. But it will never, again IMO, as long as the
>>> 'Windows programs' that WINE can run are mostly really old DOS programs.
>>>
>>> Sheesh.
>>> --
>>>
>>
>> Perhaps you should do a little research before you spout off. Wine is
>> capable of running very modern day applications that are written for the
>> windows platform. It is anything but old dos programs.
>
>
> Mr. Keating. May I call you Jessie? I know who you are and I respect you
> a lot.
>
> Would you please name "some very modern day applications that are
> written for the windows platform" that will run in a Linux current
> version of WINE? That will run under the currently available WINE in
> Fedora 11. Names and versions. _Real_ applications. The ones that
> ordinary 'users' want. Not the geeky ones that 'Linux geeks' want.
>
> I am serious here. Really. The names are...?

Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Office, Microsoft Visio, Quicken, Lotus
Notes and games like WoW, CoD, Halflife, Counter Strike + many more.

Sure they are all "old DOS programs" that nobody uses 

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Wine was: Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-12 Thread Frank Murphy
On 12/07/09 03:35, David wrote:

> 
> Would you please name "some very modern day applications that are
> written for the windows platform" that will run in a Linux current
> version of WINE? That will run under the currently available WINE in
> Fedora 11. Names and versions. _Real_ applications. The ones that
> ordinary 'users' want. Not the geeky ones that 'Linux geeks' want.
> 
> I am serious here. Really. The names are...?
> 

http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=2591

All I'm interested in.
I also test in wine, but keep forgetting the paperwork.


I find makehuman, currently in a position.
That it's not a perfect substitute:
http://www.makehuman.org/blog/index.php

But I keep testing, looking in


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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread David
On 7/11/2009 11:53 PM, Eric Springer wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 12:35 PM, David wrote:
>> I am serious here. Really. The names are...?
> 
> It's besides the point, but there are quite a few games (World of
> Warcraft, Half-life 2 etc.) that run perfectly under wine. I do think
> Kevin does need to act a little more maturely though (especially now
> that he's got an official position), and I also know that nothing is
> going to be gained by continuing this emotional argument.
> 


"quite a few games"? "quite a few games" does not count IMO as a real
world situation. Real Microsoft applications. Not games.

As for Keven? He needs. IMO, to control his emotions if he really wants
to be a 'voice?'. Those of use that have been here for years can deal
with that. Newbies? They see what is written. My anyone. Wrong or right.
as 'the truth". Period.




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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Eric Springer
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 12:35 PM, David wrote:
>
> I am serious here. Really. The names are...?

It's besides the point, but there are quite a few games (World of
Warcraft, Half-life 2 etc.) that run perfectly under wine. I do think
Kevin does need to act a little more maturely though (especially now
that he's got an official position), and I also know that nothing is
going to be gained by continuing this emotional argument.

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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread David
On 7/11/2009 9:35 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> 
> 
> On Jul 11, 2009, at 17:03, David  wrote:
> 
>> On 7/11/2009 6:17 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>>> Frank Murphy wrote:
 Doesn't seem to work for wine :)
>>>
>>> That's because WINE is only 32-bit, because most Winblow$ executables
>>> are.
>>>
>>>Kevin Kofler
>>
>>
>> "Winblow$"?
>>
>> You really should learn some control here.
>>
>> The 'real guys'. The developers, code writers, people-in-the-know, show
>> respect where respect is warranted.
>>
>> Microsoft should recieve that respect IMO.
>>
>> 90% of the desktop computers in the world use some version of Windows.
>> More desktop computers use some form of Mac OS than all combined
>> versions (distributions) of Linux.
>>
>> WINE? Is a nice concept. But it will never, again IMO, as long as the
>> 'Windows programs' that WINE can run are mostly really old DOS programs.
>>
>> Sheesh.
>> -- 
>>
> 
> Perhaps you should do a little research before you spout off. Wine is
> capable of running very modern day applications that are written for the
> windows platform. It is anything but old dos programs.


Mr. Keating. May I call you Jessie? I know who you are and I respect you
a lot.

Would you please name "some very modern day applications that are
written for the windows platform" that will run in a Linux current
version of WINE? That will run under the currently available WINE in
Fedora 11. Names and versions. _Real_ applications. The ones that
ordinary 'users' want. Not the geeky ones that 'Linux geeks' want.

I am serious here. Really. The names are...?

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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Jesse Keating



On Jul 11, 2009, at 17:03, David  wrote:


On 7/11/2009 6:17 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:

Frank Murphy wrote:

Doesn't seem to work for wine :)


That's because WINE is only 32-bit, because most Winblow$  
executables are.


   Kevin Kofler



"Winblow$"?

You really should learn some control here.

The 'real guys'. The developers, code writers, people-in-the-know,  
show

respect where respect is warranted.

Microsoft should recieve that respect IMO.

90% of the desktop computers in the world use some version of Windows.
More desktop computers use some form of Mac OS than all combined
versions (distributions) of Linux.

WINE? Is a nice concept. But it will never, again IMO, as long as the
'Windows programs' that WINE can run are mostly really old DOS  
programs.


Sheesh.
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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread David
On 7/11/2009 9:27 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 21:17:56 -0400,
>   David  wrote:
>> On 7/11/2009 8:27 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 20:03:51 -0400,
>>>   David  wrote:
 The 'real guys'. The developers, code writers, people-in-the-know, show
 respect where respect is warranted.
>>> I'm sure Al Capone got a lot of respect in his day as well.
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> I think that he *demanded* that respect. Deserved? Not really.
> 
> I think the analogy works.
> 

Thought of that way. I agree.

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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 21:17:56 -0400,
  David  wrote:
> On 7/11/2009 8:27 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 20:03:51 -0400,
> >   David  wrote:
> >> The 'real guys'. The developers, code writers, people-in-the-know, show
> >> respect where respect is warranted.
> > 
> > I'm sure Al Capone got a lot of respect in his day as well.
> 
> 
> ;-)
> 
> I think that he *demanded* that respect. Deserved? Not really.

I think the analogy works.

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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread David
On 7/11/2009 8:27 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 20:03:51 -0400,
>   David  wrote:
>> The 'real guys'. The developers, code writers, people-in-the-know, show
>> respect where respect is warranted.
> 
> I'm sure Al Capone got a lot of respect in his day as well.


;-)

I think that he *demanded* that respect. Deserved? Not really.


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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 20:03:51 -0400,
  David  wrote:
> 
> The 'real guys'. The developers, code writers, people-in-the-know, show
> respect where respect is warranted.

I'm sure Al Capone got a lot of respect in his day as well.

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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread David
On 7/11/2009 6:17 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Frank Murphy wrote:
>> Doesn't seem to work for wine :)
> 
> That's because WINE is only 32-bit, because most Winblow$ executables are.
> 
> Kevin Kofler


"Winblow$"?

You really should learn some control here.

The 'real guys'. The developers, code writers, people-in-the-know, show
respect where respect is warranted.

Microsoft should recieve that respect IMO.

90% of the desktop computers in the world use some version of Windows.
More desktop computers use some form of Mac OS than all combined
versions (distributions) of Linux.

WINE? Is a nice concept. But it will never, again IMO, as long as the
'Windows programs' that WINE can run are mostly really old DOS programs.

Sheesh.
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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
Frank Murphy wrote:
> Doesn't seem to work for wine :)

That's because WINE is only 32-bit, because most Winblow$ executables are.

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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread drago01
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 6:49 PM, drago01 wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
>> On 11/07/09 10:41, Jussi Lehtola wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>> The x86_64 repo contains some multilib packages. If you don't specify
>>> the wanted architecture when installing, yum might install both 32- and
>>> 64-bit versions if available. Try adding the .x86_64 arch specifier,
>>> e.g. instead of
>>> # yum install foo
>>> perform
>>> # yum install foo.x86_64
>>
>>
>> Doesn't seem to work for wine :)
>>
>
> yum install foo
> will install foo.x86_64 by default it will only install foo.i586 if
> foo.x86_64 when

s/if foo.x86_64// ;)

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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread drago01
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 11/07/09 10:41, Jussi Lehtola wrote:
> 
>>
>> The x86_64 repo contains some multilib packages. If you don't specify
>> the wanted architecture when installing, yum might install both 32- and
>> 64-bit versions if available. Try adding the .x86_64 arch specifier,
>> e.g. instead of
>> # yum install foo
>> perform
>> # yum install foo.x86_64
>
>
> Doesn't seem to work for wine :)
>

yum install foo
will install foo.x86_64 by default it will only install foo.i586 if
foo.x86_64 when

1) you do yum install foo and only foo.i586 is in the repo
2) yo do yum install foo.i586
3) if you set "exactarch=0" in /etc/yum.conf (default is 1 which leads
to the behavior I explained above)

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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On 11/07/09 10:41, Jussi Lehtola wrote:

> 
> The x86_64 repo contains some multilib packages. If you don't specify
> the wanted architecture when installing, yum might install both 32- and
> 64-bit versions if available. Try adding the .x86_64 arch specifier,
> e.g. instead of
> # yum install foo
> perform
> # yum install foo.x86_64


Doesn't seem to work for wine :)


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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Joshua C.
2009/7/11 Jussi Lehtola :
>
> The x86_64 repo contains some multilib packages. If you don't specify
> the wanted architecture when installing, yum might install both 32- and
> 64-bit versions if available. Try adding the .x86_64 arch specifier,
> e.g. instead of
> # yum install foo
> perform
> # yum install foo.x86_64
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I also noticed this. The problem is that I use the spin-kickstarts
files and there groups of files are specified with @core. When the
livecd-creator see this, maybe it pulls all files that much the given
name regardless of the architecture.

But I still cannot explain why when running the livecd and trying to
install some of the files (in the first thread), yum still pulls the
i586 as dependencies.

Should I file a bug against yum (or livecd-creator) so that they
respect the given architecture?

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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 08:38 +0100, Joshua C. wrote:
> 2009/7/10 Tom "spot" Callaway :
> > On 07/10/2009 05:58 PM, Joshua C. wrote:
> >> I made a custom x86_64 livecd (f11) and found that the following
> >> x86_64 packages depend on i586 and i686. Is this an error when
> >> compiling those packages or they do need the 32 bits?
> >
> > I'm pretty sure you're looking at it wrong.

> I don't know but when I try to install one of those x86_64 packages it
> pulls the i586 as dependencies. I've pointed all repo files to x86_64
> and I really don't know how and why this happens?

The x86_64 repo contains some multilib packages. If you don't specify
the wanted architecture when installing, yum might install both 32- and
64-bit versions if available. Try adding the .x86_64 arch specifier,
e.g. instead of
# yum install foo
perform
# yum install foo.x86_64
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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Joshua C.
2009/7/10 Tom "spot" Callaway :
> On 07/10/2009 05:58 PM, Joshua C. wrote:
>> I made a custom x86_64 livecd (f11) and found that the following
>> x86_64 packages depend on i586 and i686. Is this an error when
>> compiling those packages or they do need the 32 bits?
>>
>>  mesa-libGL-devel.x86_64 needs
>>
>>  glibc.i686
>>  libdrm.i586
>>  libdrm-devel.i586
>>  nss-softokn-freebl.i586
>
>>  pulseaudio-module-x11.x86_64  needs
>>
>>  alsa-lib.i586
>>  dbus-libs.i586
>>  e2fsprogs-libs.i586
>>  flac.i586
>>  gdbm.i586
>>  glibc.i586
>>  libICE.i586
>>  libSM.i586
>>  libX11.i586
>>  libXau.i586
>>  libXext.i586
>>  libXtst.i586
>>  libasyncns.i586
>>  libattr.i586
>>  libcap.i586
>>  libgcc.i586
>>  libogg.i586
>>  libsndfile.i586
>>  libstdc++.i586
>>  libxcb.i586
>>  ncurses-libs.i586
>>  nss-softokn-freebl.i586
>>  pulseaudio-libs.i586
>>  pulseaudio-utils.i586
>>  readline.i586
>>  sqlite.i586
>>  tcp_wrappers-libs.i586
>
> I'm pretty sure you're looking at it wrong.
>
> [s...@velociraptor devel]$ rpm -q mesa-libGL-devel.x86_64 --requires
> /usr/bin/pkg-config
> libGL.so.1()(64bit)
> libX11-devel
> mesa-libGL = 7.5-0.14.fc11
> pkgconfig(dri2proto) >= 1.99.3
> pkgconfig(libdrm) >= 2.4.3
> pkgconfig(x11)
> pkgconfig(xdamage)
> pkgconfig(xext)
> pkgconfig(xfixes)
> pkgconfig(xxf86vm)
> rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
> rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1
> rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
> rpmlib(VersionedDependencies) <= 3.0.3-1
>
> [s...@velociraptor devel]$ rpm -q pulseaudio-module-x11.x86_64 --requires
> /bin/sh
> config(pulseaudio-module-x11) = 0.9.16-2.test2.fc12
> libICE.so.6()(64bit)
> libSM.so.6()(64bit)
> libX11.so.6()(64bit)
> libXtst.so.6()(64bit)
> libasyncns.so.0()(64bit)
> libc.so.6()(64bit)
> libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
> libdbus-1.so.3()(64bit)
> libdl.so.2()(64bit)
> libltdl.so.7()(64bit)
> libm.so.6()(64bit)
> liboil-0.3.so.0()(64bit)
> libprotocol-native.so()(64bit)
> libpthread.so.0()(64bit)
> libpulse.so.0()(64bit)
> libpulse.so.0(PULSE_0)(64bit)
> libpulsecommon-0.9.16.so()(64bit)
> libpulsecore-0.9.16.so()(64bit)
> librt.so.1()(64bit)
> libsamplerate.so.0()(64bit)
> libsndfile.so.1()(64bit)
> libspeexdsp.so.1()(64bit)
> libtdb.so.1()(64bit)
> libwrap.so.0()(64bit)
> pulseaudio = 0.9.16-2.test2.fc12
> pulseaudio-utils = 0.9.16-2.test2.fc12
> rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
> rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1
> rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
> rtld(GNU_HASH)
>
>> I also found dupllicates of NetworkManager x86_64 and .i586 and
>> others. I wanted some -devel packages but I thought only the x86_64
>> versions would be pulled in.
>>
>> How have this happened?
>
> Not sure how you managed it, but the packages themselves are correct.
>
> ~spot
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I don't know but when I try to install one of those x86_64 packages it
pulls the i586 as dependencies. I've pointed all repo files to x86_64
and I really don't know how and why this happens?

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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-10 Thread Tom "spot" Callaway
On 07/10/2009 05:58 PM, Joshua C. wrote:
> I made a custom x86_64 livecd (f11) and found that the following
> x86_64 packages depend on i586 and i686. Is this an error when
> compiling those packages or they do need the 32 bits?
> 
>  mesa-libGL-devel.x86_64 needs
> 
>  glibc.i686
>  libdrm.i586
>  libdrm-devel.i586
>  nss-softokn-freebl.i586

>  pulseaudio-module-x11.x86_64  needs
> 
>  alsa-lib.i586
>  dbus-libs.i586
>  e2fsprogs-libs.i586
>  flac.i586
>  gdbm.i586
>  glibc.i586
>  libICE.i586
>  libSM.i586
>  libX11.i586
>  libXau.i586
>  libXext.i586
>  libXtst.i586
>  libasyncns.i586
>  libattr.i586
>  libcap.i586
>  libgcc.i586
>  libogg.i586
>  libsndfile.i586
>  libstdc++.i586
>  libxcb.i586
>  ncurses-libs.i586
>  nss-softokn-freebl.i586
>  pulseaudio-libs.i586
>  pulseaudio-utils.i586
>  readline.i586
>  sqlite.i586
>  tcp_wrappers-libs.i586

I'm pretty sure you're looking at it wrong.

[s...@velociraptor devel]$ rpm -q mesa-libGL-devel.x86_64 --requires
/usr/bin/pkg-config
libGL.so.1()(64bit)
libX11-devel
mesa-libGL = 7.5-0.14.fc11
pkgconfig(dri2proto) >= 1.99.3
pkgconfig(libdrm) >= 2.4.3
pkgconfig(x11)
pkgconfig(xdamage)
pkgconfig(xext)
pkgconfig(xfixes)
pkgconfig(xxf86vm)
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
rpmlib(VersionedDependencies) <= 3.0.3-1

[s...@velociraptor devel]$ rpm -q pulseaudio-module-x11.x86_64 --requires
/bin/sh
config(pulseaudio-module-x11) = 0.9.16-2.test2.fc12
libICE.so.6()(64bit)
libSM.so.6()(64bit)
libX11.so.6()(64bit)
libXtst.so.6()(64bit)
libasyncns.so.0()(64bit)
libc.so.6()(64bit)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
libdbus-1.so.3()(64bit)
libdl.so.2()(64bit)
libltdl.so.7()(64bit)
libm.so.6()(64bit)
liboil-0.3.so.0()(64bit)
libprotocol-native.so()(64bit)
libpthread.so.0()(64bit)
libpulse.so.0()(64bit)
libpulse.so.0(PULSE_0)(64bit)
libpulsecommon-0.9.16.so()(64bit)
libpulsecore-0.9.16.so()(64bit)
librt.so.1()(64bit)
libsamplerate.so.0()(64bit)
libsndfile.so.1()(64bit)
libspeexdsp.so.1()(64bit)
libtdb.so.1()(64bit)
libwrap.so.0()(64bit)
pulseaudio = 0.9.16-2.test2.fc12
pulseaudio-utils = 0.9.16-2.test2.fc12
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
rtld(GNU_HASH)

> I also found dupllicates of NetworkManager x86_64 and .i586 and
> others. I wanted some -devel packages but I thought only the x86_64
> versions would be pulled in.
> 
> How have this happened?

Not sure how you managed it, but the packages themselves are correct.

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x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-10 Thread Joshua C.
I made a custom x86_64 livecd (f11) and found that the following
x86_64 packages depend on i586 and i686. Is this an error when
compiling those packages or they do need the 32 bits?

 mesa-libGL-devel.x86_64 needs

 glibc.i686
 libdrm.i586
 libdrm-devel.i586
 nss-softokn-freebl.i586


 pulseaudio-module-x11.x86_64  needs

 alsa-lib.i586
 dbus-libs.i586
 e2fsprogs-libs.i586
 flac.i586
 gdbm.i586
 glibc.i586
 libICE.i586
 libSM.i586
 libX11.i586
 libXau.i586
 libXext.i586
 libXtst.i586
 libasyncns.i586
 libattr.i586
 libcap.i586
 libgcc.i586
 libogg.i586
 libsndfile.i586
 libstdc++.i586
 libxcb.i586
 ncurses-libs.i586
 nss-softokn-freebl.i586
 pulseaudio-libs.i586
 pulseaudio-utils.i586
 readline.i586
 sqlite.i586
 tcp_wrappers-libs.i586

I also found dupllicates of NetworkManager x86_64 and .i586 and
others. I wanted some -devel packages but I thought only the x86_64
versions would be pulled in.

How have this happened?

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