[Bug 456345] Review Request: sportrop-fonts - A multiline decorative font

2008-07-23 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: Review Request: sportrop-fonts - A multiline decorative font


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=456345





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-23 04:10 EST ---
1. Please add a page on this font in the wiki to document this font
(using the http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Font_description_template template)
Please make sure your other fonts are documented too.
(This is used on pages like
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fonts_inclusion_history
which are referenced in the distro release notes)

2. look at the gfs fonts for example to see how to fix the warning. We consider
this kind of change a non-functionnal recoding

3. The TTF/OTF issue is currently being discussed in bug #455995. Please join
the discussion.

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[Bug 455995] No OpenType

2008-07-23 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: No OpenType


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455995





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-23 07:19 EST ---
I dare you to look at the rendered output of the ttf and otf glyphs at one 
meter size and pick out the ones with the cubic splines... Really, the 
quadratic splines which are made from the cubic ones really are virtually the 
same quality, and if you overlay both you can only really see it at very big 
sizes, certainly not the sizes you get out of your printer, let alone from 
your computer screen. Your brain also won't be able to tell which is the 
better curve (except you're some kind of superhuman with capabilities for 
visually making accurate derivatives of the curves... ;-) )

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[Bug 456345] Review Request: sportrop-fonts - A multiline decorative font

2008-07-23 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: Review Request: sportrop-fonts - A multiline decorative font


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=456345





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-23 08:22 EST ---
New SRPM: http://jstanley.fedorapeople.org/sportrop-fonts-0.9-3.fc9.src.rpm

Same SPEC

This fixes the rpmlint warning above and splits OTF and TTF into subpackages in
a generic way - see my post to fedora-fonts-list for more.

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[Bug 445291] button labels fail if language support is a subset

2008-07-23 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: button labels fail if  language support is a subset


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=445291


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[Bug 445291] button labels fail if language support is a subset

2008-07-23 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: button labels fail if  language support is a subset


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=445291


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-23 10:51 EST ---
This problem occurs with the official default kickstart of Fedora 9 (the CURRENT
release), not some old kickstart.

This problem occurs with repsect to changing the *Languages*, and making no
changes to the fonts.

The current question is whether rawhide for Fedora 10 has fixed the problem
regarding a subset of the *Languages*.  I'll answer when I can make a rawhide
install, probably as soon as F10 Alpha.  Daily rawhide is too unstable to run. 
Rawhide in Mock suffers from a lack of documentation.

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[Bug 455995] No OpenType

2008-07-23 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: No OpenType


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455995





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-23 11:19 EST ---
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Mystery screenshot 1


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[Bug 455995] No OpenType

2008-07-23 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: No OpenType


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455995





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-23 11:21 EST ---
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Mystery screenshot 2

Which one do you find easier to read, this or the previous screenshot?

Btw, I realize this has more to do with hinting rather than cubic vs.
quadratic.

Still it is a valid basis for comparison.

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[Bug 455995] No OpenType

2008-07-23 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: No OpenType


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455995





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-23 11:34 EST ---
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I'm am clueless screenshot 2

OTOH, at lager (display) sizes, it's impossible to tell the difference. A good
way to check is to overlap the maximized image viewer windows and gradually
fade out one of them, e.g. using compiz's Alt+SrollWheel feature.

In conclusion, I was full of hot air on the cubic vs. quadratic issue. Hinting
matters a lot more for the user experience...


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[Bug 455995] No OpenType

2008-07-23 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: No OpenType


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455995





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-23 11:37 EST ---
Last note on this: all test were with fonts generated at 2048em.

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[Bug 455995] No OpenType

2008-07-23 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: No OpenType


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455995





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-23 11:40 EST ---
(In reply to comment #15)

Well, you've said it yourself, that's not an issue of quadratic vs cubic 
splines. Freetype can do automatic hinting as well if you want. And Fontforge 
can make automatic ttf hinting instructions as well. This is not an issue of 
ttf being better or worse than otf, but these otf having hinted added by 
FontForge and the ttf not. If you manually hint the ttfs, the situation will 
be the other way around.

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[Bug 455995] No OpenType

2008-07-23 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: No OpenType


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-23 11:54 EST ---
1) depends on the distro. I think fedora has it on by default, but you can 
easily change it yourself
2) yeah, but many will turn on the bytecode interpreter anyway with third 
party packages

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[Bug 445291] button labels fail if language support is a subset

2008-07-23 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: button labels fail if  language support is a subset


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=445291


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-23 14:29 EST ---
Language groups that do not need special encoding fonts do not declare any font.
So if your kickstart omits the fonts group, and you unselect all the language
groups which may have added other fonts to the mix, you end with a font-less
system and no text

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[Bug 16818] fontformat in match pattern is not respected?

2008-07-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16818


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[Bug 455995] No OpenType

2008-07-23 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: No OpenType


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-23 15:28 EST ---
Vasile, are you saying that XeTeX can't use TrueType OpenType fonts and only
handles CFF OpenType?

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[Bug 455995] No OpenType

2008-07-23 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: No OpenType


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455995





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-23 17:06 EST ---
(In reply to comment #23)
 Vasile, are you saying that XeTeX can't use TrueType OpenType fonts and only
 handles CFF OpenType?

No, XeTeX can handle both flavors of OpenType. I put handle in quotes because
XeTeX internally generates an exteneded dvi (.xdv), which is then ran through a
driver to produce pdf; I don't think postscript output is possible. One can tell
XeTeX to write the xdv to a file, but I don't know of any viewers for xdv. 

On Linux the driver that converts xdv to pdf is xdvipdfmx. (On Macs one can also
choose xdv2pdf, which makes use of AAT - Apple's Advanced Typography). So, font
support on Linux is entirely dependent on what xdvipdfmx does. Given that the
extended dvi stuff was originally developed for East Asian languaes, the English
documentation is a bit spotty. Here's what I've been able to determine:
- both TrueType and and OpenType/CFF are supported and are embedded in the pdf.
- for both formats xdvipdfmx uses the CID encoding for the embedded font. XeTeX
understands only UTF-8. The conversion of encodings is handled transparently by
xdvipdfmx, and the pdf is searchable except for ligatures. (In contrast, pdftex
1.4 can handle those correctly).
- there is confusion whether bare type-1 fonts are well supported or not by
xdvipdfmx. I've seen things go both ways. The default fonts for XeTeX are Latin
Modern, which come as type-1 (and work). Unfortunately, in Fedora you cannot
select them manually (say after switching to another font set), because that
requires the OTF files, which Fedora doesn't ship. TeXLive upstream includes
both type-1 and OTF/CFF versions of Latin Modern. To further complicate this
issue, direct type-1 support was apparently added in Feb 2008 for fonts that
support the EU1 (TeX) encoding, which apparently is exactly Unicode. See this:
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/xetex/latex/euenc/. Insofar I refrained
from filing a bug on Fedora's TeXLive for missing the Latin Modern OTF's...
- finally, xdvipdfmx searches both the traditional TeX map paths and makes use
of fontconfig to find fonts. I think fontconfig takes precedence.









 at least when PDFs are generated. I was living under the misguided impression
that CFF was superior for printing.


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[Bug 454078] Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute

2008-07-23 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by 
Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454078





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-23 22:12 EST ---
khmeros-fonts-5.0-3.fc8 has been pushed to the Fedora 8 stable repository.  If 
problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.

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[Bug 454078] Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute

2008-07-23 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by 
Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454078


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[Bug 445291] button labels fail if language support is a subset

2008-07-23 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: button labels fail if  language support is a subset


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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-24 01:34 EST ---
I appreciate that this happens with F9, but it's something I don't plan on
fixing.  F10 may have this fixed, I'm not sure, which is why I asked you to try 
it.

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