[Bug 492510] Regression: wqy-bitmap-fonts preferred font over truetype fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492510 --- Comment #44 from Akira TAGOH 2009-05-01 04:44:21 EDT --- Sorry, there was wrong caches here. and I can see the different result with the test cases at Comment #24 now: 1. LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 pango-view --text "日本語 test" --font "Sans 100" --> [GOOD] rendering is ok with Japanese font 2. LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 pango-view --text "日本語 test" --font "Sans 12" --> [GOOD] rendering is ok with Japanese font 3. LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 pango-view --text "日本語 test" --font "Sans 100" --> [BAD] WenQuanYi Bitmap Song is used to render 日本語 4. LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 pango-view --text "日本語 test" --font "Sans 12" --> [GOOD] WenQuanYi Bitmap Song is used to render 日本語 5. LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 pango-view --markup --text '日本語 test' --font "Sans 100" --> [GOOD] rendering is ok with Japanese font 6. LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 pango-view --markup --text '日本語 test' --font "Sans 12" --> [GOOD] rendering is ok with Japanese font 7. LANG=en_US.UTF-8 pango-view --text "日本語 test" --font "Sans 100" --> [BAD] WenQuanYi Bitmap Song is used to render 日本語 8. (bonus)PANGO_LANGUAGE=zh LANG=en_US.UTF-8 pango-view --text "日本語 test" --font "Sans 12" --> [GOOD] WenQuanYi Bitmap Song is used to render 日本語 9. (bonus)PANGO_LANGUAGE=ja LANG=en_US.UTF-8 pango-view --text "日本語 test" --font "Sans 12" --> [GOOD] rendering is ok with Japanese font -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 492510] Regression: wqy-bitmap-fonts preferred font over truetype fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492510 --- Comment #45 from Jens Petersen 2009-05-01 04:48:14 EDT --- I just tested also with wqy-bitmap-fonts-0.9.9-9.fc11 and 0.9.9-10.fc11 and got exactly the result as comment 44 both testcases 3 and 7 in comment 24 still fail. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 492510] Regression: wqy-bitmap-fonts preferred font over truetype fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492510 Jens Petersen changed: What|Removed |Added Attachment #339961|application/octet-stream|text/plain mime type|| -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 492510] Regression: wqy-bitmap-fonts preferred font over truetype fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492510 --- Comment #47 from Jens Petersen 2009-05-01 05:19:08 EDT --- (In reply to comment #24) > Created an attachment (id=339961) --> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=339961) [details] > proposed fontconfig config > > I've polished a lot from my previous proposal. it won't depends on other > fonts. > just works for the desired situation. this should be valid for current our > policy as well. Looks good, clean and simple to me too. Qianqian, could you test it and tell us what problems it causes for you? :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 492510] Regression: wqy-bitmap-fonts preferred font over truetype fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492510 --- Comment #46 from Jens Petersen 2009-05-01 05:03:33 EDT --- (In reply to comment #38) > Therefore, either you want to introduce a Japanese specific font config file > to > set the preferred font orders for lang=ja, or you simply define VL Gothic as > the default Sans for ja in the vlgothic-fonts config files, just like the file > you proposed for this bug (you do need to replace zh to ja and reset the font > names). Sounds like different things are being talked about: vlgothic-fonts and vlgothic-p-fonts already provide /etc/fonts/conf.d/66-vlgothic-gothic.conf /usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/66-vlgothic-pgothic.conf which prepend it as the default for Japanese AFAICT. Qianqian, what more is it that you wish vlgothic's conf to do? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 492510] Regression: wqy-bitmap-fonts preferred font over truetype fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492510 --- Comment #48 from Akira TAGOH 2009-05-01 05:23:19 EDT --- Aside from adding any rules for the fonts not owned, a rule to fall back the font to AR PL UMing CN for the request out of the supported pixel in WenQuanYi Bitmap Song is broken. basically any expressions in match tag is a AND operation. thus, WenQuanYi Bitmap Song serif 16 AR PL UMing CN would means something like: if (pattern.family.compare("WenQuanYi Bitmap Song") && pattern.family.compare("serif") && pattern.pixelsize > 16.0) { pattern.family.prepend("AR PL UMing CN"); } which never happens. that's why case 3 and 7 didn't work FWIW. I don't understand why you prefer this complex rule rather than my simplest proposal though. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 20854] OTF is a font format
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20854 Brian Burger changed: What|Removed |Added CC||blurdes...@gmail.com Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|NOTOURBUG | --- Comment #4 from Brian Burger 2009-05-01 03:19:32 PST --- https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/338682 Over on Launchpad, Seb Bacher is saying this isn't a Nautilus/file-handling bug. Over here, it's not a mime-type bug. It's got to be one or the other. So which is it? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 20854] OTF is a font format
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20854 --- Comment #5 from Brian Burger 2009-05-01 03:22:15 PST --- Copypasta from one of my comments on the Launchpad bug: This is not a problem with the current Gnome Font Viewer, as is easily proven: 1. Find an OTF font file on your system. 2. If you just double-click on it, OpenOffice attempts to open it, and fails. 2. Right-click the OTF, go Open With -> Open With Other Application -> Font Viewer 3. Font Viewer opens and displays the OTF preview just as it should, exactly like a TTF is shown. So I'm not sure how this bug can be Invalid against all three of the targets currently listed. It's should be valid against at least one, if not all. (The above was all done on Ubuntu 9.04) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 20854] OTF is a font format
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20854 Bastien Nocera changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED Resolution||NOTOURBUG --- Comment #6 from Bastien Nocera 2009-05-01 05:00:31 PST --- It is a bug in the file managers. File a bug against them. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 70132] Support @font-face
Do not reply to this email. You can add comments to this bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70132 --- Comment #185 from Greg K Nicholson [:gkn] 2009-05-01 07:40:28 PDT --- Using the 3.5b5pre build from 2009-05-01 on Ubuntu 9.04: In these demos: http://www.princexml.com/howcome/2008/webfonts/ , the text renders as unknown-character glyphs (i.e. the character code inside a box), after showing briefly in a local font while the page loads. I assume those fonts are unusable. However, Firefox doesn't fall back to a font with a renderable character. Is this the intended behaviour? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 70132] Support @font-face
Do not reply to this email. You can add comments to this bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70132 philippe changed: What|Removed |Added CC||p...@l-c-n.com --- Comment #186 from philippe 2009-05-01 07:45:51 PDT --- (In reply to comment #185) > Using the 3.5b5pre build from 2009-05-01 on Ubuntu 9.04: > > In these demos: http://www.princexml.com/howcome/2008/webfonts/ , the text > renders as unknown-character glyphs (i.e. the character code inside a box), > after showing briefly in a local font while the page loads. > > I assume those fonts are unusable. However, Firefox doesn't fall back to a > font > with a renderable character. Is this the intended behaviour? That is bug 489445, that should land on gecko 1.9.1 (Fx 3.5b) soon. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 490830] Nafees Web Naksha should drop Preferred Family name
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490830 --- Comment #6 from Mathieu Bridon 2009-05-01 12:15:59 EDT --- (In reply to comment #5) > This isn't a font bug I think. If the preferred family shows "Nafees" then > upstream wants to see the font being called "Nafees" and not "Nafees Web > Naksha". The latter is just the name that has to be displayed when the system > can't handle preferred families. > > The problem should be fixed in the font selectors instead. So, what should I do ? Revert to the « preferred family » being « Nafees » and reassign the bug to each app having a font selector ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 490830] Nafees Web Naksha should drop Preferred Family name
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490830 --- Comment #7 from Ben Laenen 2009-05-01 12:22:55 EDT --- (In reply to comment #6) > So, what should I do ? > > Revert to the « preferred family » being « Nafees » and reassign the bug to > each app having a font selector ? Yes :-) We've been bugging them for years now to fix it properly once. If more people start the doing that, it may be be fixed one day... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 490830] Nafees Web Naksha should drop Preferred Family name
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490830 --- Comment #8 from Mathieu Bridon 2009-05-01 12:34:51 EDT --- So, how exactly should font selectors behave ? If they don't look at the « Preferred family » field, what field should they look at ? (I have no idea how those things work, I'm just trying to understand better the issue before I send it to them :) On another note, isn't there a shared component (GTK ?) where this could be fixed instead of fixing it in each and every app ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 490830] Nafees Web Naksha should drop Preferred Family name
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490830 --- Comment #9 from Ben Laenen 2009-05-01 13:14:00 EDT --- I've written down what's going on with (preferred) (sub)families here: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12735 Now, that's for Condensed faces in DejaVu (which are more or less supported by the GTK font selector, but not in Qt). If you move to other kinds of styles they're not supported in any of them (if you get a typeface with 64 styles, you sometimes only see maybe a fourth of them). Font selectors should behave like this: * either read preferred family and preferred subfamily (and make sure your font selector supports different styles besides bold and italic) * or read the family and subfamily (if you don't fully support different styles) But fontconfig will only give the preferred names to the font selectors, and that's why it's going wrong, if the font selector doesn't support it, it has no way to stick with the family and subfamily of a font and discard the preferred ones. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 490830] Nafees Web Naksha should drop Preferred Family name
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490830 --- Comment #10 from Mathieu Bridon 2009-05-01 14:18:32 EDT --- Okay, so in your example of DejaVu, we would have: - font family: DejaVu Sans Condensed - font style/subfamily: Bold - preferred font family: DejaVu Sans - preferred font style/subfamily: Condensed Bold A well behaved font selector would then display the font as « DejaVu Sans » and in the style selector, it would propose the « Condensed Bold » style (along the « Bold », « Italic »,... styles). Am I right ? Now, in my case: - font family: Nafees Web Naskh - font style/subfamily: Regular (only one style is provided) - preferred font family: Nafees - preferred font style/subfamily: Regular Those are the values fontforge shows me. Which means that a well behaved font selector would display the font as « Nafees » and in the style selector, it would propose the « Regular » style. That's not really helpful as other Nafees fonts (for example the Nafees Nastaleeq font) have the same preferred family and preferred style. So, even a well behaved font selector would have troubles with them :-/ Did I get all this right ? (BTW, thanks a lot for your time and explanations :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 490830] Nafees Web Naksha should drop Preferred Family name
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490830 --- Comment #11 from Ben Laenen 2009-05-01 14:46:10 EDT --- OK, I didn't really investigate the Nafees Web Naskh font, but if the preferred subfamily is just "Regular", then that's a mistake there. Obviously the preferred subfamily should be different for all Nafees fonts with preferred family "Nafees". So it looks like the names need to be fixed in the font anyway (but the correct method is changing the preferred subfamily, not by completely dropping the preferred names). Although I can understand that the latter looks more correct since due to those broken font selectors (or rather, broken synergy between fontconfig and font selectors) you may not be able to select all styles if you rename preferred subfamilies... My personal view (which we've normally upheld in DejaVu) is that we don't fix things in the fonts which should be fixed elsewhere (it could open the door for other problems later when things do get fixed). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 490830] Nafees Web Naksha should drop Preferred Family name
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490830 --- Comment #12 from Mathieu Bridon 2009-05-01 15:01:04 EDT --- Ok, so I have 2 choices here: 1. change « preferred family » to « Nafees Web Naskh » and let « preferred style » to « Regular » (that's what is in the current Rawhide and updates-testing package) 2. let « preferred family » to « Nafees » and change « preferred style » to « Web Naskh Regular » Both would be good (admitting that we don't have issues in the font selector). Which one to choose ? I guess only upstream can answer me on this one, and they are not really responsive :-/ I'll let it the way it is currently, if I can get an anwser from upstream, I'll do what they prefer. I'll move the package from updates-testing to updates for F10, but I'll keep this bug open for future reference and for reminding me that this is not closed until I get an answer from upstream. Thanks a lot again for all the explanations Ben. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 490830] Nafees Web Naksha should drop Preferred Family name
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490830 --- Comment #13 from Ben Laenen 2009-05-01 15:19:41 EDT --- Well, in the end you're the package manager, so you're responsible for making it all work together. So I can understand that you prefer just removing the preferred names if you can maintain it and can keep following this up, whatever upstream does. But upstream (Nafees, fontconfig and font selectors) should fix this anyway. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 497984] [qt] Fonts are not showing, while only square in kde, gnome working fine...
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497984 --- Comment #4 from A S Alam 2009-05-01 22:09:17 EDT --- 1) while using only qt application (qtconfig-qt4) for check font, it also have problem. 1) Interface (GUI) can be used in english, but input is more important, which is also square box only -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list