Re: RecentChanages error

2007-03-13 Thread Paulo Santos 

This is now fixed.

edit-log had an unformated line, that was generating this error. Probably
a \n on the comments field, was generating this.


Paulo

On 3/13/07, Dimitris Glezos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


O/H Dimitris Glezos έγραψε:
 We've got an error on:

   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RecentChanges

 ValueError

 invalid literal for long(): not needed any more

Oops. Sorry for the double post after tchung's one.

And this triple one.

-d


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Re: intro. and help offer

2007-03-13 Thread Jerry Amundson 

On 3/13/07, Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jerry Amundson wrote:
 bacula testing (needs to get into extras)
Excellent, Would you mind helping getting bacula into extras -
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/230344


Sure. I'd be happy to help on that one.

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Re: Testers needed: mirrormanager

2007-03-13 Thread Jeffrey C. Ollie 
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 12:47 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
 
 At this point, I'm looking for volunteers to try out the site, enter
 their data, and let me know if something causes a python backtrace and
 what you did to get there.  My goal is to shake enough bugs out that
 it can be used *LIVE* for the Fedora 7 launch.

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mirrormanager/publiclist/2/2

Gives me a 404 (linked from
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mirrormanager/publiclist/)

Jeff



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Re: Testers needed: mirrormanager

2007-03-13 Thread Axel Thimm 
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 12:47:48PM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
 You need to have a Fedora Account System account.  You don't need to
 sign the Contributor License Agreement, but you will have to accept
 the Export Compliance statement listed there when you create a new
 Site.

Isn't the CLA supposed to contain the Export Compliance statement? I
had signed the CLA some long time ago, and it still wants the Export
Compliance statement from me. Or am I mixing apples and oranges?
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RE: Testers needed: mirrormanager

2007-03-13 Thread Matt_Domsch 
Try again, Toshio fixed it. 


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-Original Message-
From: Brian Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 2:11 PM
To: Domsch, Matt; A private discussion group for official mirrors of
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Cc: fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Testers needed: mirrormanager

On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 12:47 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:

 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mirrormanager

I tried to login and got a 500 Internal Error:

500 Internal error
The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from
fulfilling the request.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/cherrypy/_cphttptools.py, line
103, in _run
applyFilters('before_main')
  File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/cherrypy/filters/__init__.py,
line 151, in applyFilters
method()
  File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/turbogears/visit/api.py, line
157, in before_main
plugin.record_request( visit )
  File
/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/turbogears/identity/visitor.py, line
165, in record_request
identity= self.identity_from_request(visit.key)
  File
/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/turbogears/identity/visitor.py, line
89, in identity_from_request
identity= source(visit_key)
  File
/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/turbogears/identity/visitor.py, line
146, in identity_from_form
identity= self.provider.validate_identity( user_name, pw, visit_key
)
  File
/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/fedora/tg/identity/safasprovider.py,
line 105, in validate_identity
except fedora.accounts.AuthError, e:
NameError: global name 'fedora' is not defined

I am able to login to the https://admin.fedora.redhat.com/accounts site
with a FAS account.

/Brian/
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Re: Testers needed: mirrormanager

2007-03-13 Thread Mike McGrath 

Axel Thimm wrote:

On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 12:47:48PM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
  

You need to have a Fedora Account System account.  You don't need to
sign the Contributor License Agreement, but you will have to accept
the Export Compliance statement listed there when you create a new
Site.



Isn't the CLA supposed to contain the Export Compliance statement? I
had signed the CLA some long time ago, and it still wants the Export
Compliance statement from me. Or am I mixing apples and oranges?
  
I'm not sure if the CLA covers this (I don't think it does) but I do 
know that you don't need a CLA to be a mirror but you do need to sign 
the export agreement.  Really we're not the right people to answer a 
question like that, anyone know how legal questions like this should be 
handled?


   -Mike

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Re: Testers needed: mirrormanager

2007-03-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram 

Mike McGrath wrote:

Axel Thimm wrote:

On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 12:47:48PM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
 

You need to have a Fedora Account System account.  You don't need to
sign the Contributor License Agreement, but you will have to accept
the Export Compliance statement listed there when you create a new
Site.



Isn't the CLA supposed to contain the Export Compliance statement? I
had signed the CLA some long time ago, and it still wants the Export
Compliance statement from me. Or am I mixing apples and oranges?
  
I'm not sure if the CLA covers this (I don't think it does) but I do 
know that you don't need a CLA to be a mirror but you do need to sign 
the export agreement.  Really we're not the right people to answer a 
question like that, anyone know how legal questions like this should be 
handled?


You can contact Max Spevack or/and Greg Dek and they should talk to Red 
Hat legal.


Rahul

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RE: Testers needed: mirrormanager

2007-03-13 Thread Toivo Voll 

One more snafu.
On https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mirrormanager/
the site (University of South Florida) shows up correctly, but the
host under that site (should be ftp.usf.edu) is shown as teufli or
mirror.atrpms.net, and I cannot see the correct host. When I click on
the displayed (wrong) site name I am told I am not an admin for it.
If I click on the site instead, occasionally the right host is
displayed, and I can proceed to edit it.
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Re: cvsl10n CVSROOT

2007-03-13 Thread Dimitris Glezos 
O/H Mike McGrath έγραψε:
 Dimitris Glezos wrote:
 O/H Karsten Wade έγραψε:
  
 For Paul, Dimitris, and others ...

 Mike and I were discussing CVS structure for cvsl10n.  These are
 configuration choices for e.g. CVSROOT, and etc.

 Goals:

 * R/W for the po/ directory in documentation modules (/cvs/docs/.../po)
 * Same for po/ under any merged packages ( Extras), although for the
 most part those are projects that should have translation upstream
 * Pull in sample content from elvis.rh.c:/usr/local/CVS
   - part of planning to be able to copy all content and switch

 Here is a *test* import of the existing L10N CVS -- note that this
 content may get removed at any time, and people in the cvsl10n have
 write access to it:

 http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/?root=l10n
 

 Sounds OK to me. What's the next plan?

 Some more ideas/food for thought:

 We could have virtual folders like we do on i18n.r.c: a translator
 does a `cvs
 co translate` there (`cvs co l10n` in our system) and receives
 something like:

  anaconda/
af.po
am.po
anaconda.pot
...
  apacheconf/
af.po
...

 Also, our TODO should somewhere include automerge: each time a new POT
 file is
 committed the PO files could be automatically updated (currently not
 supported
 at i18n.r.c but is in the TODO list there too).

 Finally, since we're at it, we should probably start making plans for
 http://l10n.fedoraproject.org/. A *great* example is
 http://l10n.gnome.org/.
 This is probably the only tool the L10N community needs (although the
 job can be
 done locally too). Any help from the TurboGears experienced folks in
 Infrastructure would be greatly appreciated. :)
   
 You know more about the translations needs then I do.  Paul had also
 mentioned http://translate.sourceforge.net/; as an option.  On the one
 hand I'd be fine if we wrote our own app in turbogears.  On the other
 hand, I'd love to use something already out there.  Let me see what I
 can do about the modules and the po files.

See below, after the short explanations.

 And just for the education
 of myself and those on the list.  Can you tell us the difference between
 l10n and i18n is, and how you guys do what you do, what the heck a po or
 pot file is.  Just educate us in general about your needs and how
 cvs.fedoraproject.org will help you accomplish them.

In short:

  * i18n: Making something *able* to be localized, ie develop baring in mind
that it should be localizable. That might mean, for example, to use gettext to
print stuff, not assume everybody uses am/pm for time etc.

  * l10n: Making a product local. Translating strings, make sure encodings work,
have proper fonts, keyboard layouts, adopt cultural values, local customs etc.
It is the complementary process of i18n: it takes place after it. Basically, the
distinction is subtle but we can simply talk about L10N to keep things clear.

  * POT: A specially-formatted file that contains every string the software has
that should be localized (translated). Example: 'anaconda/anaconda.pot'. Example
2: Docs project uses xml2po to grab XML strings and produce POT files.

  * PO: A one-to-one translation for every string in the POT file. Example:
'anaconda/de.po' holds the german translations of anaconda. A translator
initially copies the POT file to 'de.po' and uses tools like kbabel and 
gtranslator.


## i18n  l10n process

  * The maintainer creates his product with i18n in mind. She freezes the
strings, exports strings in the POT file and tells L10N folks to go on and
translate. When the translation freeze comes, he grabs the PO files back and
produces localized versions of the application. For software, that means she
compiles them into binary MO files and packages the app. For Docs, we just
create HTML versions with the translated strings/images in them.

  * The translators use the POT file to create or update their PO file (using
`cp` for the first and `msgmerge` for the second). They then commit the PO file
back to the maintainer (either with email or with the project's SCM). Because of
the many PO files and their frequent updates, a project usually helps
translators by having a web-based statistics page that shows the percentage of
translation for each PO file (application, component) for each language.

An answer for the question Why move? can be found on [1].

  [1]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Projects/CVSInfrastructure#WhyMigrate


## L10N statistics

You can see the existing Fedora (Red Hat) translation statistics page at [2]
(yes, it should be called l10n-status). The GNOME L10n portal can be found at
[3] and the KDE one at [4].

  [2]: http://i18n.redhat.com/cgi-bin/i18n-status
  [3]: http://l10n.gnome.org/
  [4]: http://l10n.kde.org/

We want (and need) to create something similar to the above. It is not really
urgent though, since translators can see their translation stats locally from
their command line.


## The translate toolkit

It is basically a set of tools that

Re: cvsl10n CVSROOT

2007-03-13 Thread Bill Nottingham 
Dimitris Glezos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
 Our translators have made it clear they want to use a SCM for the translations
 and said an *additional* web-based tool would be nice. So, let's first create
 our SCM and we'll see about whether we should use pootle.

Use *one* SCM. How to gate currently hosted GIT/HG/etc into this is 
unclear. :/

Bill

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Re: intro. and help offer

2007-03-13 Thread Jerry Amundson 

Per AccountSystem, this account I just created, currently includes
the various CVS repositories and Bugzilla.
It didn't. I created a Bugzilla account using the *e-mail address* of
my account system registration. That may not have been the right
thing...

On 3/13/07, Jerry Amundson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 3/13/07, Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jerry Amundson wrote:
  bacula testing (needs to get into extras)
 Excellent, Would you mind helping getting bacula into extras -
 http://bugzilla.redhat.com/230344


So this needs to be assigned to me then? (unless there was some
original problem with the account, above, and I should be able to do
so myself...)

Procedural things...
1. Andreas Thienemann, who opened said bug, seemed well into this
already - was this lucrative position offered to Andreas first? ;-)

2. Upstream is actively releasing a src.rpm - is there any criteria
whereby upstream's is used... hmm, I guess first requirement is
ability to rpmbuild --rebuild, which this doesn't... I'll shut up
and start working now. :-)

jerry

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