Building fedora guest on RHEL5.3

2009-03-27 Thread Mike McGrath
FYI, if you've been following our little "Buidling Fedora 9 or later on a
RHEL5.3 host" issues, I think we've figured it out:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492523

I'll test turning the NX flag on soon.

-Mike

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Re: Please test our new calendering solutions.

2009-03-27 Thread Clint Savage
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:34 PM, susmit shannigrahi
 wrote:
>>
>> I'd like to throw in my previous email as a reference for this exact
>> purpose.  There was a long discussion[1] around which I already
>> created a list of potential calendaring solutions[2].
>
>> 2 - 
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Herlo/Fedora_Calendar_Project_Desired_Features_%28Draft%29
>
> I am very sorry to let you know that I have tried out almost all the
> solutions that you mentioned in that page.
> For details please refer to ticket 1197
>
> 1.http://trac.calendarserver.org/ (Apache v2.0) :  No Web based GUI.
> 2 Bongo Project - http://bongo-project.org/Main_Page (formerly Hula)
> (GPLv2): Alpha, in their own terms, not suitable for production.
> 3. Bedework - http://www.bedework.org/bedework/ (BSD License):
> Requires sun JAVA.
> 4. DAViCal - http://rscds.sourceforge.net/ (GPLv2): Need stand alone
> clients, no web based frontend!!
>
> 5. Zikula - http://zikula.org/ [A CMS being packaged by Docs, has some
> calendaring support] (GPLv2+) : Candidate
> 6. Chandler Project - http://chandlerproject.org/ (Apache v2.0): Will
> try out today.
>
> 7. OpenGroupWare - http://www.opengroupware.org/ (GPL or LGPL): Too messy.
>
> 8. Citadel : Candidate
>
>
> Do we have any licensing issues with Zimbra? Or is CalDev is available
> on the community version of Zimbra? If not we can give a go.
>

Susmit,

with regards, I didn't understand that a GUI was an *absolute*
requirement.  I don't see any list on the page you mentioned of
features or requirements.  The story as I understand it was, install
opengroupware.  In our email discussions previously, I found that many
people were interested in a 'Google Calendar' like project that could
be used across many different applications.  The general idea I have
seen is that it should have both a web interface and a CalDav/iCal
interface.

Cheers,

Clint

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Re: Please test our new calendering solutions.

2009-03-27 Thread susmit shannigrahi
> Susmit,
>
> with regards, I didn't understand that a GUI was an *absolute*
> requirement.
By Web based GUI I meant web interface. :)
Sorry for bad choice of words.

>In our email discussions previously, I found that many
> people were interested in a 'Google Calendar' like project that could
> be used across many different applications.  The general idea I have
> seen is that it should have both a web interface and a CalDav/iCal
> interface.

This is exactly we are desperately trying to find out, but there is no
clear winner so far...
Some don't have web interface, some don't have caldev support




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Re: Please test our new calendering solutions.

2009-03-27 Thread Clint Savage
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:41 AM, susmit shannigrahi
 wrote:
>> Susmit,
>>
>> with regards, I didn't understand that a GUI was an *absolute*
>> requirement.
> By Web based GUI I meant web interface. :)
> Sorry for bad choice of words.

Oh, I understood that.  :)

>>In our email discussions previously, I found that many
>> people were interested in a 'Google Calendar' like project that could
>> be used across many different applications.  The general idea I have
>> seen is that it should have both a web interface and a CalDav/iCal
>> interface.
>
> This is exactly we are desperately trying to find out, but there is no
> clear winner so far...
> Some don't have web interface, some don't have caldev support
>

Yeah, I completely agree.  This is of great interest to me because I
can see great opportunities for many types of networks and such.  One
application that was brought up that I like, although it's more than
just a caldav/web interface.  That application in Zimbra.  I
understand it to be exactly what we want with the exception of the
mail component.  Maybe there's a way to rip that out (or not set it
up).  Also, the licensing may be an issue, but I don't know much about
that off-hand.

Cheers,

Clint

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[Fwd: Cron /usr/share/clamav/freshclam-sleep]

2009-03-27 Thread Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
We're getting these every 3 hours. Could someone take a look at it
please? Thanks.

 Forwarded Message 
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To: r...@fedoraproject.org, postmas...@fedoraproject.org,
webmas...@fedoraproject.org, cla...@fedoraproject.org
Subject: Cron  /usr/share/clamav/freshclam-sleep
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:00:01 + (UTC)

WARNING: update of clamav database is disabled; please see
  '/etc/sysconfig/freshclam'  
  for information how to enable the periodic update resp. how to turn
  off this message.

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Re: Pycon people

2009-03-27 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
2009/3/26 Ricky Zhou :
> On 2009-03-26 09:31:32 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>> Who are the backups in case of emergency. I can probably work out some
>> time off if you need it.
> I'll be around as well.
>
> Thanks,
> Ricky

Ok.. cool. I was afraid it was just going to be Seth, 12 oz of
concentrated espresso beans, and a pager.



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Re: [Fwd: Cron /usr/share/clamav/freshclam-sleep]

2009-03-27 Thread Mike McGrath
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:

> We're getting these every 3 hours. Could someone take a look at it
> please? Thanks.
>

This was me, I'm working on a clamav module for puppet..  That's quite a
bitch that it is this noisy by default.

-Mike

>  Forwarded Message 
> From: Cron Daemon 
> To: r...@fedoraproject.org, postmas...@fedoraproject.org,
> webmas...@fedoraproject.org, cla...@fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Cron  /usr/share/clamav/freshclam-sleep
> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:00:01 + (UTC)
>
> WARNING: update of clamav database is disabled; please see
>   '/etc/sysconfig/freshclam'
>   for information how to enable the periodic update resp. how to turn
>   off this message.
>
> --
> Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams 
>

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Re: Pycon people

2009-03-27 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Thursday 26 March 2009 11:29:54 pm Seth Vidal wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Mike McGrath  wrote:
> >> Just a heads up, many of the Infrastructure Team members (including
> >> myself) will be at pycon (http://us.pycon.org/) so our online
> >> availability will be scarce.
> >
> > Who are the backups in case of emergency. I can probably work out some
> > time off if you need it.
>
> I'm here and around and I get the pages.

Im here also 

Dennis

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Re: Pycon people

2009-03-27 Thread Seth Vidal



On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:


2009/3/26 Ricky Zhou :

On 2009-03-26 09:31:32 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

Who are the backups in case of emergency. I can probably work out some
time off if you need it.

I'll be around as well.

Thanks,
Ricky


Ok.. cool. I was afraid it was just going to be Seth, 12 oz of
concentrated espresso beans, and a pager.


You wound me, sir.

WOUND! :)

-sv

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Re: Please test our new calendering solutions.

2009-03-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 10:11 -0600, Clint Savage wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Simon Birtwistle  wrote:
> >> For testing purpose, I have tried out many solutions, but the two most
> >> suitable contenders are
> >> 1.Zikula
> >> 2.Citadel
> >
> 
> I'd like to throw in my previous email as a reference for this exact
> purpose.  There was a long discussion[1] around which I already
> created a list of potential calendaring solutions[2].  Of which, we
> need to evaluate those as well since from what I can see, neither of
> these solutions allow me to update the calendar (my personal or a
> group calendar) with the caldav server type functionality.  Maybe I
> missed that, but I think that's an integral part of the need for a
> calendaring solution IMO.  if you follow the discussion held a while
> ago, the list suggested becomes more integral to the scheduling
> functionality needed in Fedora.
> 
> I'm still under the impression that we should set up test servers for
> these other systems too as most (if not all) are FOSS as well and
> better fit the needs of a full calendaring free/busy type solution.

Just wanted to back up Clint on this: as the guy who started the ball
rolling, CalDAV support was one of the deal-breakers for me. I don't
think we can expect everyone to work through a web front end, it's
important to have the flexibility to let people access the calendar and
publish to it via their PIM client (or even via, say, Google Calendar,
which has CalDAV support these days).

Google finds some references to Citadel planning CalDAV support, but
they seem sketchy and not currently active.

Thanks a lot to you guys for your work on this! Of the two current test
systems, I agree with Neville's comments: zikula is the nicer because
it's a simple calendar-based layout. Citadel is nice, but it's a
complete groupware system, which isn't exactly what we're trying to put
in place here - we're not trying to provide people with email and
contact management, doing that via the Fedora project doesn't really
make sense.
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Re: Please test our new calendering solutions.

2009-03-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 08:54 -0600, Clint Savage wrote:

> Yeah, I completely agree.  This is of great interest to me because I
> can see great opportunities for many types of networks and such.  One
> application that was brought up that I like, although it's more than
> just a caldav/web interface.  That application in Zimbra.  I
> understand it to be exactly what we want with the exception of the
> mail component.  Maybe there's a way to rip that out (or not set it
> up).  Also, the licensing may be an issue, but I don't know much about
> that off-hand.

FWIW, Zimbra is what Red Hat uses internally. It does, indeed, have
functional CalDAV support.

>From what I've heard it was a bit of a big effort to get implemented,
though. It's a fairly big project. It may be subject to the same
objections I made to Citadel - it's overkill for a pure calendaring
system, and the extra functions aren't necessarily something that add
any value if provided by the Fedora project.
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Re: Please test our new calendering solutions.

2009-03-27 Thread susmit shannigrahi
> Just wanted to back up Clint on this: as the guy who started the ball
> rolling, CalDAV support was one of the deal-breakers for me. I don't
> think we can expect everyone to work through a web front end, it's
> important to have the flexibility to let people access the calendar and
> publish to it via their PIM client (or even via, say, Google Calendar,
> which has CalDAV support these days).

If web-interface isn't a necessity, I have a davical server up for testing. :)
http://publictest15.fedoraproject.org/davical/
We can easily sync that to our personal devices.


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Re: Please test our new calendering solutions.

2009-03-27 Thread susmit shannigrahi
> If web-interface isn't a necessity, I have a davical server up for testing. :)
> http://publictest15.fedoraproject.org/davical/
> We can easily sync that to our personal devices.

username/passwd for syncing is testuser/testuser.

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Re: Pycon people

2009-03-27 Thread Xavier Lamien
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Dennis Gilmore  wrote:
> On Thursday 26 March 2009 11:29:54 pm Seth Vidal wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Mike McGrath  wrote:
>> >> Just a heads up, many of the Infrastructure Team members (including
>> >> myself) will be at pycon (http://us.pycon.org/) so our online
>> >> availability will be scarce.
>> >
>> > Who are the backups in case of emergency. I can probably work out some
>> > time off if you need it.
>>
>> I'm here and around and I get the pages.
>
> Im here also
>

I'm around too.

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Re: Please test our new calendering solutions.

2009-03-27 Thread Clint Savage
I

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:10 PM, susmit shannigrahi
 wrote:
>> If web-interface isn't a necessity, I have a davical server up for testing. 
>> :)
>> http://publictest15.fedoraproject.org/davical/
>> We can easily sync that to our personal devices.
>
> username/passwd for syncing is testuser/testuser.
>

I will set up Thunderbird with Lightning and start testing on this.
However, I kind of think a mixed solution (web and caldav/ical
support) is what fits us best.  For now, this might be the best
direction to go and just build something out of it, thoughts?

Cheers,

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Re: Pycon people

2009-03-27 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Seth Vidal  wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>
>> 2009/3/26 Ricky Zhou :
>>>
>>> On 2009-03-26 09:31:32 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

 Who are the backups in case of emergency. I can probably work out some
 time off if you need it.
>>>
>>> I'll be around as well.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ricky
>>
>> Ok.. cool. I was afraid it was just going to be Seth, 12 oz of
>> concentrated espresso beans, and a pager.
>
> You wound me, sir.
>
> WOUND! :)

Hey I was just trying to look out for you. I mean after the 60th hour
the hallucinations and heart palpitations kick in.


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Change Request: Test_Day namespace change

2009-03-27 Thread Mike McGrath
I'd like to do

http://pastebin.ca/1374517

for

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1293

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Re: Change Request: Test_Day namespace change

2009-03-27 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2009-03-27 09:11:56 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
> I'd like to do
> 
> http://pastebin.ca/1374517
> 
> for
> 
> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1293
+1 with the fixes agreed upon in IRC (increment the values of the
constants and change the names to NS_TEST_DAY and NS_TEST_DAY_TALK).

Thanks,
Ricky


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Re: Please test our new calendering solutions.

2009-03-27 Thread susmit shannigrahi
> I will set up Thunderbird with Lightning and start testing on this.
> However, I kind of think a mixed solution (web and caldav/ical
> support) is what fits us best.  For now, this might be the best
> direction to go and just build something out of it, thoughts?


Let's look into another two test apps...

1. PHP iCalendar (http://phpicalendar.net/): PHP-based iCAL v.2.0 file
parser / displayer. One sends/retrieves the files via WebDAV: PHP
iCalendar itself is view-only.
http://publictest15.fedoraproject.org/phpical/phpicalendar/

and

2. Webcalender (webcalendar.sourceforge.net/) :
http://publictest15.fedoraproject.org/webcalender/

Can you please test the required functionalities are available or not?
passwd same as usual.
Thanks.



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Re: Please test our new calendering solutions.

2009-03-27 Thread Clint Savage
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:00 PM, susmit shannigrahi
 wrote:
>> I will set up Thunderbird with Lightning and start testing on this.
>> However, I kind of think a mixed solution (web and caldav/ical
>> support) is what fits us best.  For now, this might be the best
>> direction to go and just build something out of it, thoughts?
>
>
> Let's look into another two test apps...
>
> 1. PHP iCalendar (http://phpicalendar.net/): PHP-based iCAL v.2.0 file
> parser / displayer. One sends/retrieves the files via WebDAV: PHP
> iCalendar itself is view-only.
> http://publictest15.fedoraproject.org/phpical/phpicalendar/
>
> and
>
> 2. Webcalender (webcalendar.sourceforge.net/) :
> http://publictest15.fedoraproject.org/webcalender/
>
> Can you please test the required functionalities are available or not?
> passwd same as usual.
> Thanks.

Can do, probably get back with you tomorrow nightish.

If anyone else can do it sooner, that'd be great.

Clint

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