Re: Wan't to join and why

2009-08-18 Thread Steven M. Parrish
Toshio Kuratomi wrote:

 On 08/17/2009 03:48 PM, Steven M. Parrish wrote:
 Hi guys and gals,
 
 I am looking to join both the sysadmin-test and sysadmin-cvs groups.  Why
 you
 might ask?  Well I'll tell you.  I wan't to get more involved in Fedora.
 
 Here is my current Fedora resume...
 
 - BugZapper for both KDE and Packagekit.
 - Maintain 20+ packages and am a Sponsor in the packaging group.
 - Work closely with the OLPC and Sugar folks at getting and maintaining
 the packages in Fedora
 - Responsible for creating builds of F11 with Sugar specifically for the
 OLPC XO-1 (Hope to get an XO-1.5 soon) see
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1 for info on this.
 
 What I am looking to do now is create a very simplified bugzilla
 interface that can be used by OLPC users, mostly children, to report
 issues with Sugar
 Activities in Fedora.  Will develop in PHP and would like to develop and
 test it on one of the publictest servers.
 
 Also would like to help maintain the cvs servers and projects contained
 there.
 
 Any questions just ask.
 
 Is this intended to be deployed onto Fedora Infrastructure boxes
 eventually or just be developed/demoed on the publictest infrastructure?
  We haven't had development of known-non-Fedora stuff done previously
 but this might be a valid first case.  If it's intended to run on Fedora
 Infrastructure, we very much prefer developing them in python.  In fact,
 I don't think we have any non-python developed stuff.
 
 -Toshio

It is intended to run on Fedora infrastructure.  It is going to be an 
alternate front end to our current bugzilla instance.  It could be built 
upon to create different front ends for other user groups as well.

Developing it in Python will not be a problem.  I am just in the beginning 
design stage atm. 

Steven

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Re: Wan't to join and why

2009-08-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/18/2009 05:51 PM, Steven M. Parrish wrote:

 What I am looking to do now is create a very simplified bugzilla
 interface that can be used by OLPC users, mostly children, to report
 issues with Sugar
 Activities in Fedora.  Will develop in PHP and would like to develop and
 test it on one of the publictest servers.

 Also would like to help maintain the cvs servers and projects contained
 there.

 Any questions just ask.

 Is this intended to be deployed onto Fedora Infrastructure boxes
 eventually or just be developed/demoed on the publictest infrastructure?
  We haven't had development of known-non-Fedora stuff done previously
 but this might be a valid first case.  If it's intended to run on Fedora
 Infrastructure, we very much prefer developing them in python.  In fact,
 I don't think we have any non-python developed stuff.

 -Toshio
 
 It is intended to run on Fedora infrastructure.  It is going to be an 
 alternate front end to our current bugzilla instance.  It could be built 
 upon to create different front ends for other user groups as well.
 
 Developing it in Python will not be a problem.  I am just in the beginning 
 design stage atm. 

Very interesting. A related project

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugzilla_Desktop_Client

Rahul

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Re: Wan't to join and why

2009-08-18 Thread Steven M. Parrish
Rahul Sundaram wrote:

 On 08/18/2009 05:51 PM, Steven M. Parrish wrote:
 
 What I am looking to do now is create a very simplified bugzilla
 interface that can be used by OLPC users, mostly children, to report
 issues with Sugar
 Activities in Fedora.  Will develop in PHP and would like to develop
 and test it on one of the publictest servers.

 Also would like to help maintain the cvs servers and projects contained
 there.

 Any questions just ask.

 Is this intended to be deployed onto Fedora Infrastructure boxes
 eventually or just be developed/demoed on the publictest infrastructure?
  We haven't had development of known-non-Fedora stuff done previously
 but this might be a valid first case.  If it's intended to run on Fedora
 Infrastructure, we very much prefer developing them in python.  In fact,
 I don't think we have any non-python developed stuff.

 -Toshio
 
 It is intended to run on Fedora infrastructure.  It is going to be an
 alternate front end to our current bugzilla instance.  It could be built
 upon to create different front ends for other user groups as well.
 
 Developing it in Python will not be a problem.  I am just in the
 beginning design stage atm.
 
 Very interesting. A related project
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugzilla_Desktop_Client
 
 Rahul

Sounds like we both have similar goals here.  I think having both a OS based 
app and a simple web interface for our bugreporting is a great idea.  

Anything that makes it easier for normal users to report issues and give 
feedback will only lead to making Fedora a more user friendly distro.

Steven

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Re: Wan't to join and why

2009-08-18 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:15:48AM -0400, Steven M. Parrish wrote:
 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 
  On 08/18/2009 05:51 PM, Steven M. Parrish wrote:
  
  What I am looking to do now is create a very simplified bugzilla
  interface that can be used by OLPC users, mostly children, to report
  issues with Sugar
  Activities in Fedora.  Will develop in PHP and would like to develop
  and test it on one of the publictest servers.
 
  Also would like to help maintain the cvs servers and projects contained
  there.
 
  Any questions just ask.
 
  Is this intended to be deployed onto Fedora Infrastructure boxes
  eventually or just be developed/demoed on the publictest infrastructure?
   We haven't had development of known-non-Fedora stuff done previously
  but this might be a valid first case.  If it's intended to run on Fedora
  Infrastructure, we very much prefer developing them in python.  In fact,
  I don't think we have any non-python developed stuff.
 
  -Toshio
  
  It is intended to run on Fedora infrastructure.  It is going to be an
  alternate front end to our current bugzilla instance.  It could be built
  upon to create different front ends for other user groups as well.
  
  Developing it in Python will not be a problem.  I am just in the
  beginning design stage atm.
  
  Very interesting. A related project
  
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugzilla_Desktop_Client
  
  Rahul
 
 Sounds like we both have similar goals here.  I think having both a OS based 
 app and a simple web interface for our bugreporting is a great idea.  
 
 Anything that makes it easier for normal users to report issues and give 
 feedback will only lead to making Fedora a more user friendly distro.

I know that there were folks in the Desktop SIG who were interested
in a more friendly bug filing Web interface, as well as other
possibilities for lowering the fright factor of Bugzilla.

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Re: Wan't to join and why

2009-08-18 Thread Steven M. Parrish
Paul W. Frields wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:15:48AM -0400, Steven M. Parrish wrote:
 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 
  On 08/18/2009 05:51 PM, Steven M. Parrish wrote:
  
  What I am looking to do now is create a very simplified bugzilla
  interface that can be used by OLPC users, mostly children, to report
  issues with Sugar
  Activities in Fedora.  Will develop in PHP and would like to develop
  and test it on one of the publictest servers.
 
  Also would like to help maintain the cvs servers and projects
  contained there.
 
  Any questions just ask.
 
  Is this intended to be deployed onto Fedora Infrastructure boxes
  eventually or just be developed/demoed on the publictest
  infrastructure?
   We haven't had development of known-non-Fedora stuff done previously
  but this might be a valid first case.  If it's intended to run on
  Fedora
  Infrastructure, we very much prefer developing them in python.  In
  fact, I don't think we have any non-python developed stuff.
 
  -Toshio
  
  It is intended to run on Fedora infrastructure.  It is going to be an
  alternate front end to our current bugzilla instance.  It could be
  built upon to create different front ends for other user groups as
  well.
  
  Developing it in Python will not be a problem.  I am just in the
  beginning design stage atm.
  
  Very interesting. A related project
  
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugzilla_Desktop_Client
  
  Rahul
 
 Sounds like we both have similar goals here.  I think having both a OS
 based app and a simple web interface for our bugreporting is a great
 idea.
 
 Anything that makes it easier for normal users to report issues and give
 feedback will only lead to making Fedora a more user friendly distro.
 
 I know that there were folks in the Desktop SIG who were interested
 in a more friendly bug filing Web interface, as well as other
 possibilities for lowering the fright factor of Bugzilla.
 

Yes its something that was discussed at FudCon in January, but now that 
Sugar/OLPC is basing itself on Fedora I feel its important to get something 
going.

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Last call for talking points - what makes you excited about F12?

2009-08-18 Thread Mel Chua

If you've got a moment for some last-minute help...

We (Marketing) will be freezing the F12 talking points list today, and 
are still somewhat light in the what makes Fedora awesome for admins 
and developers? categories.


Right now we have libguestfs and kvm improvements for admins and 
maybe moblin for developers, but there must be more - and more reasons 
why they're awesome (why *is* libguestfs something that makes admins 
happy?). We figured you would know.


The features list is at 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/12/FeatureList. If you've got a 
moment, please take a look at that, then edit 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_talking_points with the things that 
are making you (as admins and devels) happy about F12 coming out.


Help us promote the heck out of your work. ;)

Thanks!

--Mel

PS: I know this is last-minute notice - sorry about that. We're still 
learning how to do things on a schedule, and next time around we'll put 
the call out here much earlier.


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Seeking comments on my proposal

2009-08-18 Thread Steven M. Parrish

Got the outline of my proposal here  
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SugarZilla

I welcome any comments

Steven

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Re: Seeking comments on my proposal

2009-08-18 Thread Mel Chua

Got the outline of my proposal here
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SugarZilla


Nifty. My only comment: How can we make sure that the workflow/interface 
for SugarZilla is what its intended userbase needs? (It's easy for us to 
sit here and say yes, that will be better for 8-year-olds, but how do 
we know that?)


Might be a good thing to get a Design team consultation on.

--Mel

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Re: Seeking comments on my proposal

2009-08-18 Thread Steven M. Parrish
Mel Chua wrote:

 Got the outline of my proposal here
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SugarZilla
 
 Nifty. My only comment: How can we make sure that the workflow/interface
 for SugarZilla is what its intended userbase needs? (It's easy for us to
 sit here and say yes, that will be better for 8-year-olds, but how do
 we know that?)
 
 Might be a good thing to get a Design team consultation on.
 
 --Mel

I had planned to get some design folks involved, in fact I will need help in 
that area.  I am shooting for the simplest interface possible that is able 
to gather the needed info.

Steven

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Freeze break request for sigul fine tuning

2009-08-18 Thread Jesse Keating
Sigul changes are very low risk, as we're mostly done with the signing
and puppet is currently disabled on these hosts.  However vault may be
rebuilt tomorrow and if so I want the puppet modules to be correct for
the rebuild.

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Re: Freeze break request for sigul fine tuning

2009-08-18 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2009-08-18 11:28:04 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
 Sigul changes are very low risk, as we're mostly done with the signing
 and puppet is currently disabled on these hosts.  However vault may be
 rebuilt tomorrow and if so I want the puppet modules to be correct for
 the rebuild.
+1

Thanks,
Ricky


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Re: Freeze break request for sigul fine tuning

2009-08-18 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Ricky Zhou wrote:

 On 2009-08-18 11:28:04 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
  Sigul changes are very low risk, as we're mostly done with the signing
  and puppet is currently disabled on these hosts.  However vault may be
  rebuilt tomorrow and if so I want the puppet modules to be correct for
  the rebuild.
 +1


+1 here as well though techncally they're not frozen yet only because
we've not yet added them to the is frozen doc :)

-Mike

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