Re: Blogs site?

2009-09-30 Thread Chitlesh GOORAH
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Mike McGrath wrote:
 Whats the status of the blogs site?  Is it ready to go?  People want to
 use it :)

 Where are the directions?

Hello Mike,

I've just signed up. It seems that with trial to log in with my FAS
credentials, I got a big fat:

Not Found

The requested URL /wp/http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/wp-signup.php
was not found on this server.


I had to apply the url manually
http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/wp-signup.php
in order to create a blog.

Cheers,
Chitlesh

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Re: Blogs site?

2009-09-30 Thread Darren VanBuren

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This seems to be a WordPress issue, with the whole SSL deal.

It's pretty much go, but we need to clarify that users should manually  
login before clicking the signup link in order to circumvent this  
little issue.


Darren VanBuren
onekop...@gmail.com

http://theoks.net/

On Sep 29, 2009, at 11:52 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:


On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Mike McGrath wrote:
Whats the status of the blogs site?  Is it ready to go?  People  
want to

use it :)

Where are the directions?


Hello Mike,

I've just signed up. It seems that with trial to log in with my FAS
credentials, I got a big fat:

Not Found

The requested URL /wp/http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/wp-signup.php
was not found on this server.


I had to apply the url manually
http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/wp-signup.php
in order to create a blog.

Cheers,
Chitlesh

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Change Freeze

2009-09-30 Thread Mike McGrath
Just a reminder to everyone.

We are officially frozen under a prerelease freeze -

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/SOP/Release#Change_Freeze

You can check the list at -

sudo yum -y install openoffice.org-draw
git clone git://git.fedorahosted.org/git/fedora-infrastructure.git/
cd fedora-infrastructure/architecture
oodraw Environments.odg


-Mike

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Re: Looking for people who need guests.

2009-09-30 Thread Mike McGrath
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009, Mike McGrath wrote:

 I'm looking to put some load on our new cloud environment.  This is a
 pre-pre-pre type setup.  The guests will go up, they'll go down.  You know
 the deal.  You'll only have this guest for a month or so but if you think
 you could use a guest, let me know.  Because right now the guests aren't
 actually doing work.


Ok, people who requested these should have them by now.  If you haven't
gotten an email from me email me and let me know.

-Mike

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Re: Blogs site?

2009-09-30 Thread Bret McMillan

On 09/30/2009 09:48 AM, Mike McGrath wrote:

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Darren VanBuren wrote:


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This seems to be a WordPress issue, with the whole SSL deal.

It's pretty much go, but we need to clarify that users should manually login
before clicking the signup link in order to circumvent this little issue.



Well lets find some victim^H^H^H^H^H^Hvolunteer and get at least one blog
in there and document the process all the way through.

Anyone want to step forward?


So, here's what I'm seeing:

1)  logging-in appears to work fine, though I get a spurious FAS login 
failed before I've even tried a uname/passwd auth.  Are we trying some 
sort of client-side cert validation first, and that's failing?


2)  When trying to create a blog from the logged-out state, I get sent 
to the login page, w/ a parameter that's supposed to take me to the 
signup page upon succesful authentication:


https://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%253A%252F%252Fblogs.fedoraproject.org%252Fwp%252Fwp-signup.php


Something very odd is happening, though.  The 302 response code looks sane:

POST /wp/wp-login.php HTTP/1.1
[snip]
HTTP/1.x 302 Found
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:17:26 GMT
Server: Apache/2.2.3 (Red Hat)
X-Powered-By: PHP/5.1.6
Expires: Wed, 11 Jan 1984 05:00:00 GMT
Last-Modified: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:17:26 GMT
Cache-Control: no-cache, must-revalidate, max-age=0
Pragma: no-cache
Location: http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.fedoraproject.org%2Fwp%2Fwp-signup.php


... but firefox then proceeds to generate this request:

GET /wp/http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.fedoraproject.org%2Fwp%2Fwp-signup.php HTTP/1.1


... which yields (validly) a 404 error.

No idea why firefox is trying to follow that path; redacted Live HTTP 
Headers log attached.


Anyone testing this w/ a browser other than F11's firefox?  Same issue 
shows up on iPhone's Safari browser...


--Bret
https://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/wp-login.php

POST /wp/wp-login.php HTTP/1.1
Host: blogs.fedoraproject.org
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3) 
Gecko/20090909 Fedora/3.5.3-1.fc11 Firefox/3.5.3
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 300
Connection: keep-alive
Referer: 
https://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%253A%252F%252Fblogs.fedoraproject.org%252Fwp%252Fwp-signup.php
Cookie: wordpress_test_cookie=WP+Cookie+check; wp-settings-time-38=1254327347
Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
Content-Length: 134
log=bretmpwd=1977thomaswp-submit=Log+Inredirect_to=http%253A%252F%252Fblogs.fedoraproject.org%252Fwp%252Fwp-signup.phptestcookie=1
HTTP/1.x 302 Found
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:17:26 GMT
Server: Apache/2.2.3 (Red Hat)
X-Powered-By: PHP/5.1.6
Expires: Wed, 11 Jan 1984 05:00:00 GMT
Last-Modified: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:17:26 GMT
Cache-Control: no-cache, must-revalidate, max-age=0
Pragma: no-cache
Location: http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.fedoraproject.org%2Fwp%2Fwp-signup.php
AppTime: D=571224
AppServer: value2.fedora.phx.redhat.com
Content-Length: 0
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Set-Cookie: wordpress_test_cookie=WP+Cookie+check; path=/wp/; 
domain=.blogs.fedoraproject.org
Set-Cookie: wordpress_=bretm%7C1254500246%7Cc09e0cc70f32c7c55d758ae4af4d14de; 
path=/wp/wp-content/plugins; domain=.blogs.fedoraproject.org; HttpOnly
Set-Cookie: wordpress_=bretm%7C1254500246%7Cc09e0cc70f32c7c55d758ae4af4d14de; 
path=/wp/; domain=.blogs.fedoraproject.org; HttpOnly
Set-Cookie: 
wordpress_logged_in_=bretm%7C1254500246%7C051116532fb45f3bf9f68d7861e69e4f; 
path=/wp/; domain=.blogs.fedoraproject.org; HttpOnly
ProxyTime: D=582964
ProxyServer: proxy2.fedora.phx.redhat.com
Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=500
Connection: Keep-Alive
--
https://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.fedoraproject.org%2Fwp%2Fwp-signup.php

GET /wp/http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.fedoraproject.org%2Fwp%2Fwp-signup.php HTTP/1.1
Host: blogs.fedoraproject.org
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3) 
Gecko/20090909 Fedora/3.5.3-1.fc11 Firefox/3.5.3
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 300
Connection: keep-alive
Referer: 
https://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%253A%252F%252Fblogs.fedoraproject.org%252Fwp%252Fwp-signup.php
Cookie: wordpress_test_cookie=WP+Cookie+check; wp-settings-time-38=1254327347; 
wordpress_=bretm%7C1254500246%7Cc09e0cc70f32c7c55d758ae4af4d14de; 
wordpress_logged_in_=bretm%7C1254500246%7C051116532fb45f3bf9f68d7861e69e4f

HTTP/1.x 404 Not Found
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:17:26 GMT
Server: Apache/2.2.3 (Red Hat)
Content-Length: 338
Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=499
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-Type: text/html; 

Re: Blogs site?

2009-09-30 Thread Davi Vercillo C. Garcia
Hi,

Everything has worked fine for me here ! First, I logged into FAS and,
after it, I tryed to create a blog using this link
http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/wp-signup.php . My blog is working
and I already did a post...

Thanks,
-- 
Davi Vercillo C. Garcia
B.Sc. Student - DCC-IM/UFRJ
Fedora Project Contributor
http://davivercillo.fedorapeople.org/

If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish
thing. - Anatole France

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Re: Blogs site?

2009-09-30 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Davi Vercillo C. Garcia wrote:

 Hi,

 Everything has worked fine for me here ! First, I logged into FAS and,
 after it, I tryed to create a blog using this link
 http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/wp-signup.php . My blog is working
 and I already did a post...


Anyone know of a way to get a list of blogs on the site?  I don't see it
there.

-Mike

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Re: Blogs site?

2009-09-30 Thread Darren VanBuren

No Mike, there's not such a page yet.

Darren VanBuren
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On Sep 30, 2009, at 9:56, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:


On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Davi Vercillo C. Garcia wrote:


Hi,

Everything has worked fine for me here ! First, I logged into FAS  
and,

after it, I tryed to create a blog using this link
http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/wp-signup.php . My blog is working
and I already did a post...



Anyone know of a way to get a list of blogs on the site?  I don't  
see it

there.

   -Mike

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Re: FAD -- startin' early

2009-09-30 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jeff C. Ollie wrote:

 Probably want to look at getting Asterisk 1.6.2 packaged.  It's
 still in release candidate, but 1.6.2 has new conferencing software
 that isn't hacked in by a 3rd party or requires a kernel module.
 Since F13 early branching is happening soon we can develop the
 package there and then backport it to RHEL or whatever we end up
 running the service on.

 Cool idea, Jeff.

OK, Asterisk 1.6.2.0-rc2 is now in devel.  Since rawhide is still
composing from dist-f12 you'll need to grab it from Koji or rebuild it
on your own:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=134541

Note that I haven't actually tried the package yet, after lunch I'm
going to rebuild it locally for F11 and see how that works.  FYI, I
plan on keeping the official F12 and F11 Asterisk packages on
1.6.1.X.  F13 will be the first release with 1.6.2.X.

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FAD Fedora Talk tech items

2009-09-30 Thread Paul W. Frields
Two tech items I wanted to clear up for Fedora Talk FAD:

First, qe discussed earlier using softphones for consistency and less
equipment-lugging.  Didn't hear any votes against so that's all we're
planning at this point.  It also makes sense to concentrate on that
use because the majority of people using Fedora Talk are likely using
softphones.

Second, network setup at the site.  I talked to the owner of the
office we'll be using and he says they have a wide-open wireless,
*and* a wired connection we can feel free to use which is the same
thing their wireless plugs into.  I'm going to scoot over there on
Friday if I can, and test how things work with a softphone.  I didn't
get any hints from anyone on what special tests I needed to do beyond
trying to hook up to Fedora Talk and make and receive a call, so
that's all I plan to do unless someone tells me otherwise.

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Re: FAD Fedora Talk tech items

2009-09-30 Thread t...@codero.com
Generally from my experience the primary things that effect VoIP would
be Packet loss, and Latency. There are tons of other things such as RF
noise etc.. however those shouldnt* be an issue. 

Packet loss is going to be pretty obvious across the wire due to the
way it is normally handled (fill in dropped packet with previous packets
data). 

With that said depending on the wireless (signal strength / noise) there
could be potential issues (packet loss, distortion, static, delay in
sound), however if there are this can be easily mitigated by the use of
the hard line. Just my 2 cents. - Tim

On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 14:11 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
 Two tech items I wanted to clear up for Fedora Talk FAD:
 
 First, qe discussed earlier using softphones for consistency and less
 equipment-lugging.  Didn't hear any votes against so that's all we're
 planning at this point.  It also makes sense to concentrate on that
 use because the majority of people using Fedora Talk are likely using
 softphones.
 
 Second, network setup at the site.  I talked to the owner of the
 office we'll be using and he says they have a wide-open wireless,
 *and* a wired connection we can feel free to use which is the same
 thing their wireless plugs into.  I'm going to scoot over there on
 Friday if I can, and test how things work with a softphone.  I didn't
 get any hints from anyone on what special tests I needed to do beyond
 trying to hook up to Fedora Talk and make and receive a call, so
 that's all I plan to do unless someone tells me otherwise.
 

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Re: FAD Fedora Talk tech items

2009-09-30 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 01:20:02PM -0500, t...@codero.com wrote:
 Generally from my experience the primary things that effect VoIP would
 be Packet loss, and Latency. There are tons of other things such as RF
 noise etc.. however those shouldnt* be an issue. 
 
 Packet loss is going to be pretty obvious across the wire due to the
 way it is normally handled (fill in dropped packet with previous packets
 data). 
 
 With that said depending on the wireless (signal strength / noise) there
 could be potential issues (packet loss, distortion, static, delay in
 sound), however if there are this can be easily mitigated by the use of
 the hard line. Just my 2 cents. - Tim

This is good information to know, thanks Tim.  Fortunately most of
what we're doing isn't going to be dependent on the quality of the
connection, but rather building additional functionality into the
services themselves.  Your well-stated concerns above will continue to
apply across the board when using Fedora Talk or other VoIP systems.

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Re: Blogs site?

2009-09-30 Thread Lee Williams
I tried signing up for a blog... and I had an issue even with my FAS
(leemwilliams) it said I didn't meet min requirements.  I assumed it was
because I'm not a member of any fedora project as yet - and this was
confirmed in irc thanks to those concerned.

So other than requiring a FAS and that FAS be assigned to a fedora
project marked as non-cla (where can I get a list of these or is it just
the items on the wiki project page?) are there any other requirements?

I want to clarify what those min requirements are and write them down
some place with a view to getting a link on the blog sign in page and/or
a failed sign in / create blog request.

Cheers.

Lee.

On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 13:52 -0300, Davi Vercillo C. Garcia wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Everything has worked fine for me here ! First, I logged into FAS and,
 after it, I tryed to create a blog using this link
 http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/wp-signup.php . My blog is working
 and I already did a post...
 
 Thanks,

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Re: Blogs site?

2009-09-30 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Lee Williams wrote:

 I tried signing up for a blog... and I had an issue even with my FAS
 (leemwilliams) it said I didn't meet min requirements.  I assumed it was
 because I'm not a member of any fedora project as yet - and this was
 confirmed in irc thanks to those concerned.


Yeah this project's stuck at 90% done.

 So other than requiring a FAS and that FAS be assigned to a fedora
 project marked as non-cla (where can I get a list of these or is it just
 the items on the wiki project page?) are there any other requirements?


Were these the requirements we came up with?  There's two options here:

1) Require only CLA

2) Require CLA + one group.

We generally like 2) because that's also our definition of an actual
Fedora 'contributor' (it's also the list of users on fedorapeople)

 I want to clarify what those min requirements are and write them down
 some place with a view to getting a link on the blog sign in page and/or
 a failed sign in / create blog request.


What do others think the requirements should be?  We need to get it
documented, linked to from the blogs site, etc.

-Mike

 Cheers.

 Lee.

 On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 13:52 -0300, Davi Vercillo C. Garcia wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Everything has worked fine for me here ! First, I logged into FAS and,
  after it, I tryed to create a blog using this link
  http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/wp-signup.php . My blog is working
  and I already did a post...
 
  Thanks,

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Re: FAD Fedora Talk tech items

2009-09-30 Thread t...@codero.com
Paul, Cheers to that, I miss read the site portion as if it were asking
about any potential concerns there. If you need any help in
developing/implementation of the additional services please feel free to
let me know. I am not always around in IRC but would be more than
willing to give a hand as needed, just shoot a project / idea in my
direction.

Just a side note I will be out of service for a few days from the 5th to
the 7th. Heading down to cPanel Con.

On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 15:09 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 01:20:02PM -0500, t...@codero.com wrote:
  Generally from my experience the primary things that effect VoIP would
  be Packet loss, and Latency. There are tons of other things such as RF
  noise etc.. however those shouldnt* be an issue. 
  
  Packet loss is going to be pretty obvious across the wire due to the
  way it is normally handled (fill in dropped packet with previous packets
  data). 
  
  With that said depending on the wireless (signal strength / noise) there
  could be potential issues (packet loss, distortion, static, delay in
  sound), however if there are this can be easily mitigated by the use of
  the hard line. Just my 2 cents. - Tim
 
 This is good information to know, thanks Tim.  Fortunately most of
 what we're doing isn't going to be dependent on the quality of the
 connection, but rather building additional functionality into the
 services themselves.  Your well-stated concerns above will continue to
 apply across the board when using Fedora Talk or other VoIP systems.
 

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Re: Blogs site?

2009-09-30 Thread Matt Domsch
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 02:34:01PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
 Were these the requirements we came up with?  There's two options here:
 
 1) Require only CLA
 
 2) Require CLA + one group.
 
 We generally like 2) because that's also our definition of an actual
 Fedora 'contributor' (it's also the list of users on fedorapeople)

CLA + 1 group would be recommendation too.  Same requirements as
getting your blog posted on planet.fp.o (due to the fedorapeople
requirement).

FWIW, you have to be an Ubuntu member to get your blog aggregated on
their planet.  I didn't push too hard, but back when I was doing a
bunch of packaging work with them, I didn't qualify for membership
status.  I like that Fedora has a lower threshhold to qualify, but
keep it at CLA+1 to avoid pure spammers.

-Matt

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Re: Blogs site?

2009-09-30 Thread Mel Chua

This seems to be a WordPress issue, with the whole SSL deal.

It's pretty much go, but we need to clarify that users should manually login
before clicking the signup link in order to circumvent this little issue.


Well lets find some victim^H^H^H^H^H^Hvolunteer and get at least one blog
in there and document the process all the way through.

Anyone want to step forward?


FWIW, my first post was a list of bugs I'd found while testing the 
sign-up process: 
https://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/mchua/2009/08/18/hello-world/.


I didn't think of documenting the sign-up process itself in my first 
post, but that'd make a good first post for someone else to do. I don't 
recall sign-up taking a terribly long time (certainly way less than 20 
minutes).


--Mel

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FAD F-Talk non-tech stuff

2009-09-30 Thread Paul W. Frields
Jeff reminded me of a couple topics that would be handy to note, so I
just wrote them up on the wiki page for information:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Fedora_Talk_2009#Logistics

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Re: Blogs site?

2009-09-30 Thread Jose Mathew Manimala

Hello,
 I created a test blog and one thing I noticed was that a direct 
link to the dash board was missing on the main page once a FAS authenticated 
user has logged in. I have been using wordpress as my blog software for over 
2.5 years... The dashboard link would be quite essential for bloggers... 
Just something I noticed.


Thanks and Regards
Jose M Manimala

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Subject: Re: Blogs site?


This seems to be a WordPress issue, with the whole SSL deal.

It's pretty much go, but we need to clarify that users should manually 
login
before clicking the signup link in order to circumvent this little 
issue.


Well lets find some victim^H^H^H^H^H^Hvolunteer and get at least one blog
in there and document the process all the way through.

Anyone want to step forward?


FWIW, my first post was a list of bugs I'd found while testing the sign-up 
process: https://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/mchua/2009/08/18/hello-world/.


I didn't think of documenting the sign-up process itself in my first post, 
but that'd make a good first post for someone else to do. I don't recall 
sign-up taking a terribly long time (certainly way less than 20 minutes).


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Re: Blogs site?

2009-09-30 Thread Darren VanBuren
Yep, Mel mentioned this in said post of bugs. I may be able to fix  
this easily


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On Sep 30, 2009, at 13:31, Jose Mathew Manimala josemanim...@gmail.com 
 wrote:



Hello,
I created a test blog and one thing I noticed was that a  
direct link to the dash board was missing on the main page once a  
FAS authenticated user has logged in. I have been using wordpress as  
my blog software for over 2.5 years... The dashboard link would be  
quite essential for bloggers... Just something I noticed.


Thanks and Regards
Jose M Manimala

--
From: Mel Chua m...@redhat.com
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:41 AM
To: Fedora Infrastructure fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Blogs site?


This seems to be a WordPress issue, with the whole SSL deal.

It's pretty much go, but we need to clarify that users should  
manually login
before clicking the signup link in order to circumvent this  
little issue.


Well lets find some victim^H^H^H^H^H^Hvolunteer and get at least  
one blog

in there and document the process all the way through.

Anyone want to step forward?


FWIW, my first post was a list of bugs I'd found while testing the  
sign-up process: https://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/mchua/2009/08/18/hello-world/ 
.


I didn't think of documenting the sign-up process itself in my  
first post, but that'd make a good first post for someone else to  
do. I don't recall sign-up taking a terribly long time (certainly  
way less than 20 minutes).


--Mel

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Re: FAD -- startin' early

2009-09-30 Thread John Poelstra

Jeffrey Ollie said the following on 09/30/2009 10:43 AM Pacific Time:

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote:

Jeff C. Ollie wrote:

Probably want to look at getting Asterisk 1.6.2 packaged.  It's
still in release candidate, but 1.6.2 has new conferencing software
that isn't hacked in by a 3rd party or requires a kernel module.
Since F13 early branching is happening soon we can develop the
package there and then backport it to RHEL or whatever we end up
running the service on.

Cool idea, Jeff.


OK, Asterisk 1.6.2.0-rc2 is now in devel.  Since rawhide is still
composing from dist-f12 you'll need to grab it from Koji or rebuild it
on your own:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=134541

Note that I haven't actually tried the package yet, after lunch I'm
going to rebuild it locally for F11 and see how that works.  FYI, I
plan on keeping the official F12 and F11 Asterisk packages on
1.6.1.X.  F13 will be the first release with 1.6.2.X.



Which version do we plan to use for our development work at the FAD?

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Re: FAD -- startin' early

2009-09-30 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 03:51:23PM -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
 Jeffrey Ollie said the following on 09/30/2009 10:43 AM Pacific Time:
 On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Jeff C. Ollie wrote:
 Probably want to look at getting Asterisk 1.6.2 packaged.  It's
 still in release candidate, but 1.6.2 has new conferencing software
 that isn't hacked in by a 3rd party or requires a kernel module.
 Since F13 early branching is happening soon we can develop the
 package there and then backport it to RHEL or whatever we end up
 running the service on.
 Cool idea, Jeff.

 OK, Asterisk 1.6.2.0-rc2 is now in devel.  Since rawhide is still
 composing from dist-f12 you'll need to grab it from Koji or rebuild it
 on your own:

 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=134541

 Note that I haven't actually tried the package yet, after lunch I'm
 going to rebuild it locally for F11 and see how that works.  FYI, I
 plan on keeping the official F12 and F11 Asterisk packages on
 1.6.1.X.  F13 will be the first release with 1.6.2.X.


 Which version do we plan to use for our development work at the FAD?

AFAIK, we should use the version that will be rolled out on Fedora
Infrastructure, and that seems to be 1.6.1.x.  I think Infrastructure
generally requires we stick with what's actively maintained and
considered stable, as opposed to a preview.

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Re: FAD -- startin' early

2009-09-30 Thread John Poelstra

Paul W. Frields said the following on 09/25/2009 10:13 AM Pacific Time:

I constructed a page on the wiki for an upcoming FAD where some
contributors are going to work on some long-standing Fedora Talk
related tickets.  Details are here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Fedora_Talk_2009

There's a list of related tickets on the page, namely #s 309, 395,
453, and 1160, that we're going to try to knock out that weekend.
To a large extent they're duplicates, but they all revolve around
extending the Fedora Talk capabilities.

We're going to be conversing on this list since obviously the work's
primarily, maybe even wholly, infrastructure-related.  Below is a bit
of introductory email from last night that I wanted to make sure was
captured transparently here.



As Paul mentioned in another post, I started this page
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Fedora_Talk_2009_game_plan#Participants

to contain the actual people and work items for the event when it 
happens.  We'll use this page to track who is doing what and when they 
will be available.  Please add or update your information and be sure to 
link your name to your wiki User: page so we can reach you if need be 
during the event.


I'd also like to have an IRC meeting next week to kick things off and 
get the ideas flowing.  We'll use the #fedora-fad channel for this 
meeting on freenode.


Please indicate your availability here:
http://whenisgood.net/45kn5m
by the end of the week!

Thanks,
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Re: FAD -- startin' early

2009-09-30 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 03:51:23PM -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
 Jeffrey Ollie said the following on 09/30/2009 10:43 AM Pacific Time:

 FYI, I
 plan on keeping the official F12 and F11 Asterisk packages on
 1.6.1.X.  F13 will be the first release with 1.6.2.X.

 Which version do we plan to use for our development work at the FAD?

 AFAIK, we should use the version that will be rolled out on Fedora
 Infrastructure, and that seems to be 1.6.1.x.  I think Infrastructure
 generally requires we stick with what's actively maintained and
 considered stable, as opposed to a preview.

The problem with using versions before 1.6.2.X is that to get
conferencing you either need to hack in a 3rd party patch (which was
too difficult to maintain so I took it out of the Fedora package) or
use a kernel module that isn't upstream.  Yeah, that means we're kind
of stuck with a prerelease version but I'm not sure what else to do.

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Re: FAD -- startin' early

2009-09-30 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 04:41:56PM -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
 Paul W. Frields said the following on 09/25/2009 10:13 AM Pacific Time:
 I constructed a page on the wiki for an upcoming FAD where some
 contributors are going to work on some long-standing Fedora Talk
 related tickets.  Details are here:

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Fedora_Talk_2009

 There's a list of related tickets on the page, namely #s 309, 395,
 453, and 1160, that we're going to try to knock out that weekend.
 To a large extent they're duplicates, but they all revolve around
 extending the Fedora Talk capabilities.

 We're going to be conversing on this list since obviously the work's
 primarily, maybe even wholly, infrastructure-related.  Below is a bit
 of introductory email from last night that I wanted to make sure was
 captured transparently here.


 As Paul mentioned in another post, I started this page
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Fedora_Talk_2009_game_plan#Participants

 to contain the actual people and work items for the event when it  
 happens.  We'll use this page to track who is doing what and when they  
 will be available.  Please add or update your information and be sure to  
 link your name to your wiki User: page so we can reach you if need be  
 during the event.

 I'd also like to have an IRC meeting next week to kick things off and  
 get the ideas flowing.  We'll use the #fedora-fad channel for this  
 meeting on freenode.

 Please indicate your availability here:
 http://whenisgood.net/45kn5m
 by the end of the week!

Done.  Starting Wednesday lunch I'll be on travel and meetings will be
difficult -- sorry about being less flexible than usual.

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Re: FAD -- startin' early

2009-09-30 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 03:51:23PM -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
  Jeffrey Ollie said the following on 09/30/2009 10:43 AM Pacific Time:
 
  FYI, I
  plan on keeping the official F12 and F11 Asterisk packages on
  1.6.1.X.  F13 will be the first release with 1.6.2.X.
 
  Which version do we plan to use for our development work at the FAD?
 
  AFAIK, we should use the version that will be rolled out on Fedora
  Infrastructure, and that seems to be 1.6.1.x.  I think Infrastructure
  generally requires we stick with what's actively maintained and
  considered stable, as opposed to a preview.

 The problem with using versions before 1.6.2.X is that to get
 conferencing you either need to hack in a 3rd party patch (which was
 too difficult to maintain so I took it out of the Fedora package) or
 use a kernel module that isn't upstream.  Yeah, that means we're kind
 of stuck with a prerelease version but I'm not sure what else to do.


Correct me if I'm wrong, I thought we had that version ready for rawhide
(back when F11 was rawhide)?  What happened with all that?

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Re: FAD -- startin' early

2009-09-30 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:

 The problem with using versions before 1.6.2.X is that to get
 conferencing you either need to hack in a 3rd party patch (which was
 too difficult to maintain so I took it out of the Fedora package) or
 use a kernel module that isn't upstream.  Yeah, that means we're kind
 of stuck with a prerelease version but I'm not sure what else to do.

 Correct me if I'm wrong, I thought we had that version ready for rawhide
 (back when F11 was rawhide)?  What happened with all that?

IIRC that was a 1.6.1.0 release candidate with a bunch of patches
backported from trunk.  Time passed and what was trunk then is now a
1.6.2.0 release candidate, so we can at least work from a minimally
patched tarball.  The patches are mostly just getting Asterisk to
build in the Fedora way, without adding any functionality.  I'm also
going to see what it takes to build on RHEL, but I may have to disable
some functionality that depends on libraries that aren't new enough in
RHEL.

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Re: FAD -- startin' early

2009-09-30 Thread John Poelstra

Jeffrey Ollie said the following on 09/30/2009 07:12 PM Pacific Time:

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:

The problem with using versions before 1.6.2.X is that to get
conferencing you either need to hack in a 3rd party patch (which was
too difficult to maintain so I took it out of the Fedora package) or
use a kernel module that isn't upstream.  Yeah, that means we're kind
of stuck with a prerelease version but I'm not sure what else to do.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I thought we had that version ready for rawhide
(back when F11 was rawhide)?  What happened with all that?


IIRC that was a 1.6.1.0 release candidate with a bunch of patches
backported from trunk.  Time passed and what was trunk then is now a
1.6.2.0 release candidate, so we can at least work from a minimally
patched tarball.  The patches are mostly just getting Asterisk to
build in the Fedora way, without adding any functionality.  I'm also
going to see what it takes to build on RHEL, but I may have to disable
some functionality that depends on libraries that aren't new enough in
RHEL.



Thanks for looking into all of this now!  I think it is awesome that we 
are figuring this stuff out now instead of at the FAD :-)


John

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Re: Blogs site?

2009-09-30 Thread Hiemanshu Sharma
We could have the signup and requirements on the main blog amongst
other FAQ as well. Darren was telling he was making a screencast. But
i have no idea what happened to it. Darren you gonna do it?

Regards,

Hiemanshu Sharma.

2009/10/1 Darren VanBuren onekop...@gmail.com:
 Yep, Mel mentioned this in said post of bugs. I may be able to fix this
 easily

 Darren VanBuren
 -
 Sent from my iPod

 Take control of your desktop with Fedora 11. Reign.
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 On Sep 30, 2009, at 13:31, Jose Mathew Manimala josemanim...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello,
        I created a test blog and one thing I noticed was that a direct
 link to the dash board was missing on the main page once a FAS authenticated
 user has logged in. I have been using wordpress as my blog software for over
 2.5 years... The dashboard link would be quite essential for bloggers...
 Just something I noticed.

 Thanks and Regards
 Jose M Manimala

 --
 From: Mel Chua m...@redhat.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:41 AM
 To: Fedora Infrastructure fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com
 Subject: Re: Blogs site?

 This seems to be a WordPress issue, with the whole SSL deal.

 It's pretty much go, but we need to clarify that users should manually
 login
 before clicking the signup link in order to circumvent this little
 issue.

 Well lets find some victim^H^H^H^H^H^Hvolunteer and get at least one
 blog
 in there and document the process all the way through.

 Anyone want to step forward?

 FWIW, my first post was a list of bugs I'd found while testing the
 sign-up process:
 https://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/mchua/2009/08/18/hello-world/.

 I didn't think of documenting the sign-up process itself in my first
 post, but that'd make a good first post for someone else to do. I don't
 recall sign-up taking a terribly long time (certainly way less than 20
 minutes).

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Re: Blogs site?

2009-09-30 Thread Hiemanshu Sharma
Darren,

Then just document the signup process and add it as a blog post to the
main site.

2009/10/1 Darren VanBuren onekop...@gmail.com:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 I sucked at making the screencast ;-) I mean really sucked. I might try
 again in the near future.

 Darren VanBuren
 onekop...@gmail.com
 
 http://theoks.net/

 On Sep 30, 2009, at 8:03 PM, Hiemanshu Sharma wrote:

 We could have the signup and requirements on the main blog amongst
 other FAQ as well. Darren was telling he was making a screencast. But
 i have no idea what happened to it. Darren you gonna do it?

 Regards,

 Hiemanshu Sharma.

 2009/10/1 Darren VanBuren onekop...@gmail.com:

 Yep, Mel mentioned this in said post of bugs. I may be able to fix this
 easily

 Darren VanBuren
 -
 Sent from my iPod

 Take control of your desktop with Fedora 11. Reign.
 http://fedoraproject.org/

 On Sep 30, 2009, at 13:31, Jose Mathew Manimala
 josemanim...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello,
       I created a test blog and one thing I noticed was that a direct
 link to the dash board was missing on the main page once a FAS
 authenticated
 user has logged in. I have been using wordpress as my blog software for
 over
 2.5 years... The dashboard link would be quite essential for bloggers...
 Just something I noticed.

 Thanks and Regards
 Jose M Manimala

 --
 From: Mel Chua m...@redhat.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:41 AM
 To: Fedora Infrastructure fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com
 Subject: Re: Blogs site?

 This seems to be a WordPress issue, with the whole SSL deal.

 It's pretty much go, but we need to clarify that users should
 manually
 login
 before clicking the signup link in order to circumvent this little
 issue.

 Well lets find some victim^H^H^H^H^H^Hvolunteer and get at least one
 blog
 in there and document the process all the way through.

 Anyone want to step forward?

 FWIW, my first post was a list of bugs I'd found while testing the
 sign-up process:
 https://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/mchua/2009/08/18/hello-world/.

 I didn't think of documenting the sign-up process itself in my first
 post, but that'd make a good first post for someone else to do. I don't
 recall sign-up taking a terribly long time (certainly way less than 20
 minutes).

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Re: Blogs site?

2009-09-30 Thread Jose Mathew Manimala
But what I wanted to add was that will there be menu shortcuts added to 
the front page once a user has logged in for the dash board. Me being a 
regular word press multi user for a long time was easily used to goto 
the url https://blogs.fp.o/wp/my-blog/wp-admin :). Its a very minor fix 
as Darren has put it...



Jose Mathew Manimala


Darren VanBuren wrote:


-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I sucked at making the screencast ;-) I mean really sucked. I might 
try again in the near future.


Darren VanBuren
onekop...@gmail.com

http://theoks.net/

On Sep 30, 2009, at 8:03 PM, Hiemanshu Sharma wrote:


We could have the signup and requirements on the main blog amongst
other FAQ as well. Darren was telling he was making a screencast. But
i have no idea what happened to it. Darren you gonna do it?

Regards,

Hiemanshu Sharma.

2009/10/1 Darren VanBuren onekop...@gmail.com:

Yep, Mel mentioned this in said post of bugs. I may be able to fix this
easily

Darren VanBuren
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Sent from my iPod

Take control of your desktop with Fedora 11. Reign.
http://fedoraproject.org/

On Sep 30, 2009, at 13:31, Jose Mathew Manimala 
josemanim...@gmail.com

wrote:


Hello,
   I created a test blog and one thing I noticed was that a direct
link to the dash board was missing on the main page once a FAS 
authenticated
user has logged in. I have been using wordpress as my blog software 
for over
2.5 years... The dashboard link would be quite essential for 
bloggers...

Just something I noticed.

Thanks and Regards
Jose M Manimala

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Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:41 AM
To: Fedora Infrastructure fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Blogs site?


This seems to be a WordPress issue, with the whole SSL deal.

It's pretty much go, but we need to clarify that users should 
manually

login
before clicking the signup link in order to circumvent this little
issue.


Well lets find some victim^H^H^H^H^H^Hvolunteer and get at least one
blog
in there and document the process all the way through.

Anyone want to step forward?


FWIW, my first post was a list of bugs I'd found while testing the
sign-up process:
https://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/mchua/2009/08/18/hello-world/.

I didn't think of documenting the sign-up process itself in my first
post, but that'd make a good first post for someone else to do. I 
don't
recall sign-up taking a terribly long time (certainly way less 
than 20

minutes).

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