Streaming media server for Fedora Talk

2009-10-07 Thread Paul W. Frields
We need to set up an appropriate media streaming server for Fedora
Talk for streaming conference calls, allowing us to make them more
open and transparent for Fedora contributors to listen in, for
recordings to be published to a server for download and/or streaming,
and so forth.

Clint Savage (herlo) has used icecast in the past at a FUDCon, I
believe.  Thomas Vander Stichele (thomasvs) works directly on the
flumotion system.

My cursory reading (and limited understanding) tell me that icecast
might be easier to set up, and it does support Ogg Vorbis audio
although its site might be a little out of date.  The way I understand
it, flumotion is a more robust and future-capable server system, based
on Python and GStreamer.  Both are worthy free software projects and
no slight is intended toward either.  I'm primarily concerned that
those of us working on the FAD for Fedora Talk, our VoIP system, have
*something* off the ground (or at least well understood) by the time
of the FAD, October 23-25.

In yesterday's meeting, we discussed and generally agreed that we
should go for whatever's easiest now, with the understanding that we
might replace that with an expanded solution in the short to medium
term.  I'm cc'ing Clint and Thomas to ask for any helpful advice on
setting up one or the other.  We're not interested in a dogfight of
products, just choosing what will get us off the ground quickly.  Our
initial needs are simply to stream and record audio to listeners in an
Ogg Vorbis format, but in the future we will likely want to stream
video and/or provide other functionality like live presentations.

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Re: Streaming media server for Fedora Talk

2009-10-07 Thread Tristan Santore

On 07/10/09 15:36, Paul W. Frields wrote:

We need to set up an appropriate media streaming server for Fedora
Talk for streaming conference calls, allowing us to make them more
open and transparent for Fedora contributors to listen in, for
recordings to be published to a server for download and/or streaming,
and so forth.

Clint Savage (herlo) has used icecast in the past at a FUDCon, I
believe.  Thomas Vander Stichele (thomasvs) works directly on the
flumotion system.

My cursory reading (and limited understanding) tell me that icecast
might be easier to set up, and it does support Ogg Vorbis audio
although its site might be a little out of date.  The way I understand
it, flumotion is a more robust and future-capable server system, based
on Python and GStreamer.  Both are worthy free software projects and
no slight is intended toward either.  I'm primarily concerned that
those of us working on the FAD for Fedora Talk, our VoIP system, have
*something* off the ground (or at least well understood) by the time
of the FAD, October 23-25.

In yesterday's meeting, we discussed and generally agreed that we
should go for whatever's easiest now, with the understanding that we
might replace that with an expanded solution in the short to medium
term.  I'm cc'ing Clint and Thomas to ask for any helpful advice on
setting up one or the other.  We're not interested in a dogfight of
products, just choosing what will get us off the ground quickly.  Our
initial needs are simply to stream and record audio to listeners in an
Ogg Vorbis format, but in the future we will likely want to stream
video and/or provide other functionality like live presentations.

   

Paul,
I do not know anything about the second option you named, however,
Icecast allows multiple streams, which might be useful. Further, almost 
anyone's client should play ogg vorbis, as you said, and IceCast is 
rather trivial to set up. It also allows for a pre-stream item to be 
played, which could incorporate a legal notice, stating that the content 
can be freely distributed, etc.



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Tristan

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Re: Streaming media server for Fedora Talk

2009-10-07 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Tristan Santore wrote:

 On 07/10/09 15:36, Paul W. Frields wrote:
  We need to set up an appropriate media streaming server for Fedora
  Talk for streaming conference calls, allowing us to make them more
  open and transparent for Fedora contributors to listen in, for
  recordings to be published to a server for download and/or streaming,
  and so forth.
 
  Clint Savage (herlo) has used icecast in the past at a FUDCon, I
  believe.  Thomas Vander Stichele (thomasvs) works directly on the
  flumotion system.
 
  My cursory reading (and limited understanding) tell me that icecast
  might be easier to set up, and it does support Ogg Vorbis audio
  although its site might be a little out of date.  The way I understand
  it, flumotion is a more robust and future-capable server system, based
  on Python and GStreamer.  Both are worthy free software projects and
  no slight is intended toward either.  I'm primarily concerned that
  those of us working on the FAD for Fedora Talk, our VoIP system, have
  *something* off the ground (or at least well understood) by the time
  of the FAD, October 23-25.
 
  In yesterday's meeting, we discussed and generally agreed that we
  should go for whatever's easiest now, with the understanding that we
  might replace that with an expanded solution in the short to medium
  term.  I'm cc'ing Clint and Thomas to ask for any helpful advice on
  setting up one or the other.  We're not interested in a dogfight of
  products, just choosing what will get us off the ground quickly.  Our
  initial needs are simply to stream and record audio to listeners in an
  Ogg Vorbis format, but in the future we will likely want to stream
  video and/or provide other functionality like live presentations.
 
 
 Paul,
 I do not know anything about the second option you named, however,
 Icecast allows multiple streams, which might be useful. Further, almost
 anyone's client should play ogg vorbis, as you said, and IceCast is rather
 trivial to set up. It also allows for a pre-stream item to be played, which
 could incorporate a legal notice, stating that the content can be freely
 distributed, etc.



Ive also had some experience with icecast.  My question is how do we tie
asterisk into it?

-Mike

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Re: blogs site (lets finish it)

2009-10-07 Thread Sijis Aviles
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Hiemanshu Sharma
hieman...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 This is already on the bugs we are trying to solve. It is happening in
 more than just commenting parts. Seems to be a problem the way the
 URLs are being sent. You can ping nb on the status since he is
 handling it.

 Regards,

 Hiemanshu Sharma.

 2009/10/5 Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro:
 On 10/05/2009 04:57 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
 We're confusing people with the blogs site atm.

 http://mso-chronicles.blogspot.com/2009/10/blogsfpo.html

 If it's done (I see the ticket has been closed) can we get the SOP
 together and have someone prepare an announcement?

 Following Martin's post I just found this bug:
 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1718

 It should be easy to fix, I believe is all about passing URLs in a bat
 format, but ugly enough to need fixes before going public (affect
 everybody trying to add comments)

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Derrick (actown) and I updated the fasauth plugin which should have
fixed the login errors and redirects. Nick (NB) has updated it in
puppet so it should be published for everyone now.

I believe the last thing to do is create a How to create a blog document.

Let us know if there are any more errors.

Thanks,

Sijis

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[CHANGE REQUEST] Open freemedia form for October

2009-10-07 Thread Nick Bebout
I'd like to request approval (on behalf of Susmit) to do the following
(As outlined in the FreeMedia Infrastructure SOP):

cd /puppet/modules/freemedia/files
cp FreeMedia-form.html.orig FreeMedia-form.html
git commit -a -m 'opening freemedia form for month `date +%B`'
git push

And a few days later,

cd /puppet/modules/freemedia/files
cp FreeMedia-close.html Freemedia-form.html
git commit -a -m 'closing freemedia form for month `date +%B`'
git push

This is a routine activity normally done on the beginning of the month
for a few days to allow individuals to submit requests to the freemedia
project.

Nick

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Re: [CHANGE REQUEST] Open freemedia form for October

2009-10-07 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2009-10-07 11:07:53 PM, Nick Bebout wrote:
 I'd like to request approval (on behalf of Susmit) to do the following
 (As outlined in the FreeMedia Infrastructure SOP):
 
 cd /puppet/modules/freemedia/files
 cp FreeMedia-form.html.orig FreeMedia-form.html
 git commit -a -m 'opening freemedia form for month `date +%B`'
 git push
 
 And a few days later,
 
 cd /puppet/modules/freemedia/files
 cp FreeMedia-close.html Freemedia-form.html
 git commit -a -m 'closing freemedia form for month `date +%B`'
 git push
 
 This is a routine activity normally done on the beginning of the month
 for a few days to allow individuals to submit requests to the freemedia
 project.
+1

Not a big deal, but watch out for the backticks inside of single quotes 
:-)

Thanks,
Ricky


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RE: [CHANGE REQUEST] Open freemedia form for October

2009-10-07 Thread Matt_Domsch
Which is why I've become a fan of the $(someapp ...) nomenclature instead of 
backticks.

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 Not a big deal, but watch out for the backticks inside of single quotes
 :-)

Spelling mistake. ;)

Changing it to
git commit -a -m 'opening freemedia form for the month of' `date +%B`

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