Re: Ok. Looks like this one _may_ fulfill our calendering needs. Testing required.

2009-10-19 Thread Mike McGrath
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009, susmit shannigrahi wrote:

  The page you link is only for the sync server, which doesn't appear to
  be mandatory. It provides Funambol, Outlook and Mozilla sync services. I
  would think that once OBM's CalDav support is complete you wouldn't
  really need the sync server...

  Hmm... The synchronization with thunerbird doesnt seem to be working.
  I seem to notice that the base_url/obm-sync/services url is not
  exposed, which is required by the OBM connector for thunderbird. is
  there an .htaccess configuration or something that needs to be set?


 It needs sun java, so unacceptable in the infrastructure.
 We need to look an alternative method for that.
 Please refer to Adam's mail above.
 Thanks.


It really doesn't work with the java versions that ship with Fedora?  :(

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Re: Ok. Looks like this one _may_ fulfill our calendering needs. Testing required.

2009-10-19 Thread Mike McGrath
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009, jose manimala wrote:

 did you have time to look at zimbra community edition?


Actually this might not be a bad idea.  I wonder how hard it is to disable
the email portion :)

-Mike

 On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 7:58 AM, susmit shannigrahi 
 thinklinux@gmail.com wrote:
The page you link is only for the sync server, which doesn't appear 
 to
be mandatory. It provides Funambol, Outlook and Mozilla sync 
 services. I
would think that once OBM's CalDav support is complete you wouldn't
really need the sync server...

  Hmm... The synchronization with thunerbird doesnt seem to be working.
  I seem to notice that the base_url/obm-sync/services url is not
  exposed, which is required by the OBM connector for thunderbird. is
  there an .htaccess configuration or something that needs to be set?


 It needs sun java, so unacceptable in the infrastructure.
 We need to look an alternative method for that.
 Please refer to Adam's mail above.
 Thanks.

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Re: Ok. Looks like this one _may_ fulfill our calendering needs. Testing required.

2009-10-19 Thread Tristan Santore

On 19/10/09 14:42, Mike McGrath wrote:

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:

   

On 10/19/2009 03:31 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
 

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009, jose manimala wrote:

   

did you have time to look at zimbra community edition?

 
   

Are we kidding ourselves? Zimbra ships the entire required stack for free. If
you're going this route (use full-blown Groupware for calandering), I can
recommend Zarafa -which does not ship its own MySQL binaries (amongst all
others required), uses the system stack (including options to move/change
MTAs), does not install in /opt, and is currently under review to be included
with Fedora.

My $.02

 

We wouldn't be allowed to use the default one that zimbra ships anyway,
our policies require it to be up for review.  Zarafa can certainly be
added to the list though :)

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Please forgive me, if I am blind or not awake enough, but Zarafa appears 
to be a paid for solution. I can not seem to find a free version.

So where is a foss version ?

Regards,
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Re: Ok. Looks like this one _may_ fulfill our calendering needs. Testing required.

2009-10-19 Thread Tristan Santore

On 19/10/09 18:25, Tristan Santore wrote:

On 19/10/09 14:42, Mike McGrath wrote:

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:


On 10/19/2009 03:31 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009, jose manimala wrote:


did you have time to look at zimbra community edition?

Are we kidding ourselves? Zimbra ships the entire required stack for 
free. If
you're going this route (use full-blown Groupware for calandering), 
I can
recommend Zarafa -which does not ship its own MySQL binaries 
(amongst all
others required), uses the system stack (including options to 
move/change
MTAs), does not install in /opt, and is currently under review to be 
included

with Fedora.

My $.02


We wouldn't be allowed to use the default one that zimbra ships anyway,
our policies require it to be up for review.  Zarafa can certainly be
added to the list though :)

-Mike

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Please forgive me, if I am blind or not awake enough, but Zarafa 
appears to be a paid for solution. I can not seem to find a free version.

So where is a foss version ?

Regards,
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Apologies, just after I sent the email, I found the link.
http://www.zarafa.com/content/download-community

For anyone wishing to review this.

Regards,
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getting involved

2009-10-19 Thread Sándor Levente
Hello!

I've sent you and e-mail some time ago, but I didn't get any reaction. I'd
really like to start developing some kind of software, and not only because
that's so good, but it seems to me that this is the only way you can really
learn programming. So please, give me some kind of reaction.

Thanks!

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Re: getting involved

2009-10-19 Thread Tristan Santore

On 19/10/09 18:55, Sándor Levente wrote:

Hello!

I've sent you and e-mail some time ago, but I didn't get any reaction. 
I'd really like to start developing some kind of software, and not 
only because that's so good, but it seems to me that this is the only 
way you can really learn programming. So please, give me some kind of 
reaction.


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Hello Sandor,

first of all this is the infrastructure list, so we generally talk about 
Fedora infrastructure stuff here, however, I have a suggestion to make.
Why don't you join #fedora-devel, and maybe one of the guys will be 
happy to have you as part of their development effort. There are loads 
of projects out there to participate in, and people willing to learn and 
participate are always welcome.


I hope this will help you find a software development spot.

All the best.

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Re: getting involved

2009-10-19 Thread Sándor Levente
Sorry for writing to this list but I've read that howto and it said so.
Anyway, thanks for answer, I'll try that!

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Re: getting involved

2009-10-19 Thread Mike McGrath
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Sándor Levente wrote:

 Hello!

 I've sent you and e-mail some time ago, but I didn't get any reaction. I'd 
 really like to start developing some kind of
 software, and not only because that's so good, but it seems to me that this 
 is the only way you can really learn
 programming. So please, give me some kind of reaction.


Do you have a good idea on what you want to work on?  Starting there is
good, otherwise you risk getting stuck developing something you're not
interested in which is usually a bad thing for volunteers :)

Also, just making sure, have you seen this site?
http://join.fedoraproject.org/

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LAST FTF (FedoraTalk FAD) IRC Prep meeting :: 2009-10-20 @ 19:00 UTC (3 PM EDT/12 PM PDT)

2009-10-19 Thread John Poelstra

Time: 3 PM EDT (19:00 UTC)
Date: 2009-10-20
Location: #fedora-fad

We'll be meeting one last time tomorrow in #fedora-fad to discuss our 
progress and things we need to be thinking about for Friday's 
kickoff--wow, can you believe we're doing this thing for real starting 
on Friday?!


PLEASE, if you haven't had a chance, review the use cases we have so far 
and add on to them, change them, etc.


https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Talk_User_Cases
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Talk_Admin_Cases

I will be linking the infrastructure tickets to the applicable cases. 
As I sat down to try and summarize the tickets I found that this to be a 
natural and probably better way to do it.


Also, check out Bruno's excellent detailed steps on setting up asterisk.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Fedora_Talk_2009_game_plan#Asterisk_Packages_.26_Installation_Instructions

John

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Emergency Change Freeze Request

2009-10-19 Thread Dennis Gilmore
We notcied that there was no apache logging on cvs1.  this is because the 
selinux policy was preventing apache from writing log files.  For now i have 
set selinux to permissive mode until we can fix the policy correctly.

Dennis


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Re: Emergency Change Freeze Request

2009-10-19 Thread Seth Vidal



On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Dennis Gilmore wrote:


We notcied that there was no apache logging on cvs1.  this is because the
selinux policy was preventing apache from writing log files.  For now i have
set selinux to permissive mode until we can fix the policy correctly.



+1

out of curiosity how long has the no logging been going on?

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Re: Ok. Looks like this one _may_ fulfill our calendering needs. Testing required.

2009-10-19 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 08:31:15 -0500,
  Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Sun, 18 Oct 2009, jose manimala wrote:
 
  did you have time to look at zimbra community edition?
 
 
 Actually this might not be a bad idea.  I wonder how hard it is to disable
 the email portion :)

It's less funny than you'd think. At work we use Zimbra and if you forward
your email (without keeping a copy) the built in calendaring stuff doesn't
work very well. You have to use the ics attachment (for the meeting invite
or update) in the forwarded email in a tool to store the message in their
calendar system. I don't think we (my work) ever asked them to fix this,
because so far very people both forward their email and care about calendar
invites. So it might not really be a hard thing to fix.

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Re: Emergency Change Freeze Request

2009-10-19 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Monday 19 October 2009 09:07:59 pm Seth Vidal wrote:
 On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
  We notcied that there was no apache logging on cvs1.  this is because the
  selinux policy was preventing apache from writing log files.  For now i
  have set selinux to permissive mode until we can fix the policy
  correctly.
 
 +1
 
 out of curiosity how long has the no logging been going on?

long enough that the log files that were there are gone. 

my guess is since Date:   Mon Sep 21 08:43:31 2009 -0500
 when enforcing mode was turned on.

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Re: Emergency Change Freeze Request

2009-10-19 Thread Mike McGrath
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Dennis Gilmore wrote:

 On Monday 19 October 2009 09:07:59 pm Seth Vidal wrote:
  On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
   We notcied that there was no apache logging on cvs1.  this is because the
   selinux policy was preventing apache from writing log files.  For now i
   have set selinux to permissive mode until we can fix the policy
   correctly.
 
  +1
 
  out of curiosity how long has the no logging been going on?

 long enough that the log files that were there are gone.

 my guess is since Date:   Mon Sep 21 08:43:31 2009 -0500
  when enforcing mode was turned on.


No audit trails sure make linux more SEcure

-Mike

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Re: Emergency Change Freeze Request

2009-10-19 Thread Luke Macken
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 08:06:08PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
 We notcied that there was no apache logging on cvs1.  this is because the 
 selinux policy was preventing apache from writing log files.  For now i have 
 set selinux to permissive mode until we can fix the policy correctly.

What were the specific SELinux denials?

I don't see any AVCs on cvs1, nor have I seen any since we flipped it to
enforcing mode.

How did you come to this conclusion?

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Re: Emergency Change Freeze Request

2009-10-19 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Monday 19 October 2009 09:55:50 pm Luke Macken wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 08:06:08PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
  We notcied that there was no apache logging on cvs1.  this is because the
  selinux policy was preventing apache from writing log files.  For now i
  have set selinux to permissive mode until we can fix the policy
  correctly.
 
 What were the specific SELinux denials?
 
 I don't see any AVCs on cvs1, nor have I seen any since we flipped it to
 enforcing mode.
 
 How did you come to this conclusion?

the bunch of httpd messages i got while tailing /var/log/audit/audit.log   
however looking at it now it doesnt seem related to logging.  doing a graceful 
of httpd after setting enforcing to permissive enabled logs to work again.

Dennis


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