Re: func logrotate fix

2008-09-29 Thread Yaakov Nemoy
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Jon Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'll throw a -1 in here (not that my vote matters for anything :) ).
 Not because of any risk in the change, but rather it violates the
 concept of a change freeze. It doesn't affect service, so if I went to
 our change management meeting at work with something like this during
 a change freeze I'd be laughed out of the room and told to wait.

 In my mind, we either have change freezes and stick to them, or we
 just forgo the charade.

I thought the point of a change freeze is so that we are more cautious
about changes we have to make.  Since everyone seems to approve the
idea of making such a change during the change freeze, it seems
acceptable to do so.

-Yaakov

 On 9/28/08, Xavier Lamien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd like to implement the following global fix (its generating cron spam)

 in /etc/logrotate.d/func_rotate I'd like to change line 8 from

 /etc/init.d/funcd condrestart

 to

 /etc/init.d/funcd condrestart  /dev/null

 Can I get 2 +1's?

 +1

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Re: func logrotate fix

2008-09-28 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Sunday 28 September 2008 05:29:14 pm Mike McGrath wrote:
 I'd like to implement the following global fix (its generating cron spam)

 in /etc/logrotate.d/func_rotate I'd like to change line 8 from

 /etc/init.d/funcd condrestart

 to

 /etc/init.d/funcd condrestart  /dev/null

 Can I get 2 +1's?
+1 

reducing un-needed spam is good

Dennis

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Re: func logrotate fix

2008-09-28 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen

Mike McGrath wrote:

I'd like to implement the following global fix (its generating cron spam)

in /etc/logrotate.d/func_rotate I'd like to change line 8 from

/etc/init.d/funcd condrestart

to

/etc/init.d/funcd condrestart  /dev/null

Can I get 2 +1's?


Sounds reasonable to me, +1.

-Jeroen

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Re: func logrotate fix

2008-09-28 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2008-09-28 05:29:14 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
 I'd like to implement the following global fix (its generating cron spam)
 
 in /etc/logrotate.d/func_rotate I'd like to change line 8 from
 
 /etc/init.d/funcd condrestart
 
 to
 
 /etc/init.d/funcd condrestart  /dev/null
 
 Can I get 2 +1's?
+1


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Re: func logrotate fix

2008-09-28 Thread Xavier Lamien
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd like to implement the following global fix (its generating cron spam)

 in /etc/logrotate.d/func_rotate I'd like to change line 8 from

 /etc/init.d/funcd condrestart

 to

 /etc/init.d/funcd condrestart  /dev/null

 Can I get 2 +1's?

+1

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Re: func logrotate fix

2008-09-28 Thread Jon Stanley
I'll throw a -1 in here (not that my vote matters for anything :) ).
Not because of any risk in the change, but rather it violates the
concept of a change freeze. It doesn't affect service, so if I went to
our change management meeting at work with something like this during
a change freeze I'd be laughed out of the room and told to wait.

In my mind, we either have change freezes and stick to them, or we
just forgo the charade.

On 9/28/08, Xavier Lamien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'd like to implement the following global fix (its generating cron spam)

 in /etc/logrotate.d/func_rotate I'd like to change line 8 from

 /etc/init.d/funcd condrestart

 to

 /etc/init.d/funcd condrestart  /dev/null

 Can I get 2 +1's?

 +1

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Re: func logrotate fix

2008-09-28 Thread Mike McGrath
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008, Jon Stanley wrote:

 I'll throw a -1 in here (not that my vote matters for anything :) ).
 Not because of any risk in the change, but rather it violates the
 concept of a change freeze. It doesn't affect service, so if I went to
 our change management meeting at work with something like this during
 a change freeze I'd be laughed out of the room and told to wait.

 In my mind, we either have change freezes and stick to them, or we
 just forgo the charade.


Next time you get laughed at tell those laughing that they should work to
design a more flexable environment where risks are properly evaulated
instead of blindly feared.  Having control over your environment is
important, when your environment has control over you, you've done it
wrong :)

-Mike


 On 9/28/08, Xavier Lamien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'd like to implement the following global fix (its generating cron spam)
 
  in /etc/logrotate.d/func_rotate I'd like to change line 8 from
 
  /etc/init.d/funcd condrestart
 
  to
 
  /etc/init.d/funcd condrestart  /dev/null
 
  Can I get 2 +1's?
 
  +1
 
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Re: func logrotate fix

2008-09-28 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen

Jon Stanley wrote:

I'll throw a -1 in here (not that my vote matters for anything :) ).
Not because of any risk in the change, but rather it violates the
concept of a change freeze. It doesn't affect service, so if I went to
our change management meeting at work with something like this during
a change freeze I'd be laughed out of the room and told to wait.



When such a thing happens, and it does, I wait for the big outage I 
can't recover from without changing stuff during a change freeze, and 
drag their sorry asses back in the conference room.


First thing on the agenda of course is appending  /dev/null to the 
condrestart of some logrotate file, not the outage.


-Jeroen

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