Re: Wiki account removal needed?

2009-09-23 Thread Jon Stanley
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looks like the user Georgia10 just inserted spam on that page.
 Aiyiyi.

What's our procedure for deleting/disabling a rogue FAS account?  It
appears that the account in question was just created today, probably
for the express purpose of spamming the wiki and then disappearing.  I
would like to think that only a human could create an accounts,
there's a variety of steps involved.  But maybe some sort of CAPTCHA
on the signup page could reduce this in the future?

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Re: Wiki account removal needed?

2009-09-23 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/23/2009 01:34 PM, Jon Stanley wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Looks like the user Georgia10 just inserted spam on that page.
 Aiyiyi.
 
 What's our procedure for deleting/disabling a rogue FAS account?  It
 appears that the account in question was just created today, probably
 for the express purpose of spamming the wiki and then disappearing.  I
 would like to think that only a human could create an accounts,
 there's a variety of steps involved.  But maybe some sort of CAPTCHA
 on the signup page could reduce this in the future?
 
We added a captcha last week so this is definitely a person or smarter
than average bot:

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/new

-Toshio

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Re: Wiki account removal needed?

2009-09-23 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Jon Stanley wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote:

  Looks like the user Georgia10 just inserted spam on that page.
  Aiyiyi.

 What's our procedure for deleting/disabling a rogue FAS account?  It
 appears that the account in question was just created today, probably
 for the express purpose of spamming the wiki and then disappearing.  I
 would like to think that only a human could create an accounts,
 there's a variety of steps involved.  But maybe some sort of CAPTCHA
 on the signup page could reduce this in the future?


Well,

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem#Account_Termination

Clearly states malicious usage as grounds for termination.  What was the
page in question?

-Mike

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Re: Wiki account removal needed?

2009-09-23 Thread Ian Weller
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 04:34:29PM -0400, Jon Stanley wrote:
 What's our procedure for deleting/disabling a rogue FAS account?  It
 appears that the account in question was just created today, probably
 for the express purpose of spamming the wiki and then disappearing.  I
 would like to think that only a human could create an accounts,
 there's a variety of steps involved.  But maybe some sort of CAPTCHA
 on the signup page could reduce this in the future?
 
You can block accounts from editing pages indefinitely.

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   Find me a four-year-old child.
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Re: Wiki account removal needed?

2009-09-23 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 04:22:52PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
  On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Jon Stanley wrote:
 
   On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com 
   wrote:
  
Looks like the user Georgia10 just inserted spam on that page.
Aiyiyi.
  
   What's our procedure for deleting/disabling a rogue FAS account?  It
   appears that the account in question was just created today, probably
   for the express purpose of spamming the wiki and then disappearing.  I
   would like to think that only a human could create an accounts,
   there's a variety of steps involved.  But maybe some sort of CAPTCHA
   on the signup page could reduce this in the future?
  
 
  Well,
 
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem#Account_Termination
 
  Clearly states malicious usage as grounds for termination.  What was the
  page in question?

 The OP was snipped out:

 https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=FUDCon:Berlin_2009action=history


It won't help with users with actual accounts but I've enabled a
basic captcha for anonymous edits.

-Mike

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Re: Wiki account removal needed?

2009-09-23 Thread Karsten Wade
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 09:17:32PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
 
 It won't help with users with actual accounts but I've enabled a
 basic captcha for anonymous edits.

+1 Thanks.

- Karsten
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Re: Wiki account removal needed?

2009-09-23 Thread Darren VanBuren

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Problem though. The math CAPTCHA is extremely easy to solve.
Darren VanBuren
onekop...@gmail.com

http://theoks.net/

On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:22 PM, Karsten Wade wrote:


On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 09:17:32PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:


It won't help with users with actual accounts but I've enabled a
basic captcha for anonymous edits.


+1 Thanks.

- Karsten
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Re: Wiki account removal needed?

2009-09-23 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Darren VanBuren wrote:

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 Problem though. The math CAPTCHA is extremely easy to solve.

Yep, very true.  But the blind will be able to have it read to them via
the same software they're reading the page, and AFAIK it's not a very used
capthca so spam should less.  It's worked well for smolts.org.

-Mike

 Darren VanBuren
 onekop...@gmail.com
 
 http://theoks.net/

 On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:22 PM, Karsten Wade wrote:

  On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 09:17:32PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
  
   It won't help with users with actual accounts but I've enabled a
   basic captcha for anonymous edits.
 
  +1 Thanks.
 
  - Karsten
  --
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Re: Wiki account removal needed?

2009-09-23 Thread Darren VanBuren

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But it's very common. Wikipedia uses it when there's a new link in an  
edit from a non-confirmed user.


Darren VanBuren
onekop...@gmail.com

http://theoks.net/

On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:28 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:


On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Darren VanBuren wrote:


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Problem though. The math CAPTCHA is extremely easy to solve.


Yep, very true.  But the blind will be able to have it read to them  
via
the same software they're reading the page, and AFAIK it's not a  
very used

capthca so spam should less.  It's worked well for smolts.org.

-Mike


Darren VanBuren
onekop...@gmail.com

http://theoks.net/

On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:22 PM, Karsten Wade wrote:


On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 09:17:32PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:


It won't help with users with actual accounts but I've enabled a
basic captcha for anonymous edits.


+1 Thanks.

- Karsten
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Re: Wiki account removal needed?

2009-09-23 Thread Mike McGrath
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Darren VanBuren wrote:

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 But it's very common. Wikipedia uses it when there's a new link in an edit
 from a non-confirmed user.


Just because another site is using it doesn't make it common, additionally
it doesn't mean spammers are targeting it.  And, like I said, it's worked
very well for smolts.org.  I suspect it will continue to do so for the fp
wiki.

-Mike

 Darren VanBuren
 onekop...@gmail.com
 
 http://theoks.net/

 On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:28 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:

  On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Darren VanBuren wrote:
 
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   Problem though. The math CAPTCHA is extremely easy to solve.
 
  Yep, very true.  But the blind will be able to have it read to them via
  the same software they're reading the page, and AFAIK it's not a very used
  capthca so spam should less.  It's worked well for smolts.org.
 
  -Mike
 
   Darren VanBuren
   onekop...@gmail.com
   
   http://theoks.net/
  
   On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:22 PM, Karsten Wade wrote:
  
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 09:17:32PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:

 It won't help with users with actual accounts but I've enabled a
 basic captcha for anonymous edits.
   
+1 Thanks.
   
- Karsten
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Re: Wiki account removal needed?

2009-09-23 Thread Darren VanBuren

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I agree that we might as well keep it for the visually impaired.

Darren VanBuren
onekop...@gmail.com

http://theoks.net/

On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:35 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:


On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Darren VanBuren wrote:


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But it's very common. Wikipedia uses it when there's a new link in  
an edit

from a non-confirmed user.



Just because another site is using it doesn't make it common,  
additionally
it doesn't mean spammers are targeting it.  And, like I said, it's  
worked
very well for smolts.org.  I suspect it will continue to do so for  
the fp

wiki.

-Mike


Darren VanBuren
onekop...@gmail.com

http://theoks.net/

On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:28 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:


On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Darren VanBuren wrote:


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Problem though. The math CAPTCHA is extremely easy to solve.


Yep, very true.  But the blind will be able to have it read to  
them via
the same software they're reading the page, and AFAIK it's not a  
very used

capthca so spam should less.  It's worked well for smolts.org.

-Mike


Darren VanBuren
onekop...@gmail.com

http://theoks.net/

On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:22 PM, Karsten Wade wrote:


On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 09:17:32PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:


It won't help with users with actual accounts but I've enabled a
basic captcha for anonymous edits.


+1 Thanks.

- Karsten
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