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Re: kernel-vanilla builds for 2.6.27-rc1
2008/8/8 Josh Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 00:39 +0100, Christopher Brown wrote: 2008/8/7 Josh Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 23:01 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: http://jwboyer.fedorapeople.org/pub/ Let the kernel installs begin. Hopefully I didn't fsck something up horridly. If I did, then I'll fix it for -rc2. Updated to -rc2 builds now. And the kernel-firmware Requires issue should be fixed up thanks to Jarod. It looks all good from here. I'll be posting a diff of the vanilla and ummm ... blueberry ... dmesg in a moment. Any caveats, gotchas, test suites? As for gotchas, well, it's a -rc2 kernel so be warned. But the same is true of rawhide in general. My current plan is to only do vanilla builds for -rc and final releases, unless a particular -rc is really badly broken and a git snapshot fixes quite a bit. A few caveats below. The intention isn't to provide an alternative kernel. It's more for those that want to test something and see if it works on vanilla as opposed to a patched Fedora kernel. That should be quite rare, as the Fedora kernels are fairly top notch and don't differ much from vanilla anyway. Then I suppose this begs the question - why aren't we shipping a vanilla kernel to begin with? I'm sure there are excellent answers and I'm aware of some of them already. I do think it would be good to pimp this a bit more and that it could be offered as a viable alternative. Or do I have my head in clouds I don't understand? Probably. I'm sure some will use it as a primary kernel, but they should realize there is no support for these and the likely response will be try rawhide and/or please report it to the Linux kernel mailing list. On the contrary would this not bring greater support. At the moment mainline ask people with bugs to test with mainline which your average joe has difficulty with. Also, due to quota limitations I can really only host one kernel version at a time. That means as soon as -rc3 comes out, the current builds are replaced. Understood, but if there was some way to get this added into the official repositories do the Fedora kernel bods see an opportunity? Cheers -- Christopher Brown http://www.chruz.com ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
Re: kernel-vanilla builds for 2.6.27-rc1
On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 23:20 +0100, Christopher Brown wrote: The intention isn't to provide an alternative kernel. It's more for those that want to test something and see if it works on vanilla as opposed to a patched Fedora kernel. That should be quite rare, as the Fedora kernels are fairly top notch and don't differ much from vanilla anyway. Then I suppose this begs the question - why aren't we shipping a vanilla kernel to begin with? Because there are patches that _are_ carried in Fedora that aren't upstream. Execshield, utrace, etc. And of course, the Fedora kernel developers put bug fix patches into Fedora while things are being worked upstream. Also, while rawhide tends to track vanilla very closely, the release version kernels do often care additional backports and fixes for things like wireless, etc. Just shipping the stock vanilla kernel there, while not being horrible, wouldn't have the same functionality that Fedora does. I'm sure there are excellent answers and I'm aware of some of them already. I do think it would be good to pimp this a bit more and that it could be offered as a viable alternative. Or do I have my head in clouds I don't understand? Probably. In the clouds, no. It's just not feasible at the moment. Also, due to quota limitations I can really only host one kernel version at a time. That means as soon as -rc3 comes out, the current builds are replaced. Understood, but if there was some way to get this added into the official repositories do the Fedora kernel bods see an opportunity? I personally don't. It's an additional kernel, which we've avoided to date in the official repositories for good reasons. It's also a lower valued download target, and having it sitting there on the official mirrors takes up roughly 2.4 GiB. josh ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
