[Fedora-legal-list] Using Fedora as a base for some custom appliance.
Hi, I hope this is the correct list :) I'd like to use Fedora as a base for an appliance including some closed-source components. Is this legal, when following the guidelines mentioned in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/TrademarkGuidelines#Distributing_combinations_of_Fedora_software_with_non-Fedora_or_modified_Fedora_software ? The questions is not about how the closed-sourced-components are linked, but more about, whether we can use fedora as a base or not. Greetings fabian ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Using Fedora as a base for some custom appliance.
Am Sonntag, den 05.04.2009, 19:27 +0200 schrieb Jeroen van Meeuwen: > On 04/05/2009 07:09 PM, Jon Stanley wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Fabian Deutsch > > wrote: > > > >> The questions is not about how the closed-sourced-components are linked, > >> but more about, whether we can use fedora as a base or not. > > > > IANAL, but this usage is permissible, provided that you use the > > secondary mark (or some other trademark) for the final product, and > > follow all of the other requirements in that section. > > > > Note that these guidelines only apply to the TRADEMARK -the Fedora logo > and "Fedora" itself, not the Free programs that are in Fedora; you are > Free (again, capital F) to use those. Okay, thanks very much for your comments. Greetings - fabian ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
[Fedora-legal-list] Re: http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono
> Is there any searchable parameter, > to work out what something is coded in\depending on (code wise) I suppose you can look for packages depending on mono-core. - fabian > > This is not the normal " mono" post. > I hope, I worded it enough, that my concern is: > Fedora and *All* our Users > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview#What_is_Fedora.3F) > > Frank > > > -- > jabber | msn | skype: frankly3d > http://www.frankly3d.com > ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
[Fedora-legal-list] Legal aspects of fedora based appliances
Hello. Fedora contains various tools for appliance creation. AFAIK it is intended that Fedora shall be used as a base for various appliances ISVs or OEMs want to create. But there is there some legal-guide which summarizes the legal aspects of Fedora based appliances e.g. when I want to distribute a Fedora AOS with some proprietary software? (As some kind of media-center). Greetings fabian ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Legal aspects of fedora based appliances
Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2009, 16:14 -0500 schrieb Paul W. Frields: > On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 09:57:10PM +0100, Fabian Deutsch wrote: > > Hello. > > > > Fedora contains various tools for appliance creation. AFAIK it is > > intended that Fedora shall be used as a base for various appliances ISVs > > or OEMs want to create. But there is there some legal-guide which > > summarizes the legal aspects of Fedora based appliances e.g. when I want > > to distribute a Fedora AOS with some proprietary software? (As some kind > > of media-center). > > I'm assuming you mean guidance on whether, and how, these types of > appliances can use the "Fedora" name and associated trademarks. You > can find our full trademark guidelines here: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines > > The particular section on appliances and OS images is here: > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines#Virtual_images_or_appliances_with_unmodified_Fedora_software > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines#Virtual_images_or_appliances_with_combinations_of_Fedora_software_with_non-Fedora_or_modified_Fedora_software The usage of the "Fedora" tardemark is just one point. There are more questions (for me at least :) ), like: Will a appliance providers have to keep the sources of all distributed packages, even if they are official Fedora packages? - fabian ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Legal aspects of fedora based appliances
Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2009, 19:19 -0500 schrieb Paul W. Frields: > On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 10:22:07PM +0100, Fabian Deutsch wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2009, 16:14 -0500 schrieb Paul W. Frields: > > > On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 09:57:10PM +0100, Fabian Deutsch wrote: > > > > Hello. > > > > > > > > Fedora contains various tools for appliance creation. AFAIK it is > > > > intended that Fedora shall be used as a base for various appliances ISVs > > > > or OEMs want to create. But there is there some legal-guide which > > > > summarizes the legal aspects of Fedora based appliances e.g. when I want > > > > to distribute a Fedora AOS with some proprietary software? (As some kind > > > > of media-center). > > > > > > I'm assuming you mean guidance on whether, and how, these types of > > > appliances can use the "Fedora" name and associated trademarks. You > > > can find our full trademark guidelines here: > > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines > > > > > > The particular section on appliances and OS images is here: > > > > > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines#Virtual_images_or_appliances_with_unmodified_Fedora_software > > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines#Virtual_images_or_appliances_with_combinations_of_Fedora_software_with_non-Fedora_or_modified_Fedora_software > > > > The usage of the "Fedora" tardemark is just one point. There are more > > questions (for me at least :) ), like: > > Will a appliance providers have to keep the sources of all distributed > > packages, even if they are official Fedora packages? > > Spot or someone else will correct me if I go wrong here, but because > the Fedora Project ships source pursuant to the requirements of the > GPLv2 section 3(a), downstream remixers cannot simply point to the > Fedora Project for source distribution (as in section 3(c)). This is > intentional and unlikely to change in the near future. Also, section > 3(c) as I understand it is not workable for commercial redistributors. Okay. Thansk to clarify this. > The best solution I can imagine is for downstream remixers to simply > prepare the matching source collection, and offer it at the same point > of distribution under GPL 3(a) as well. IANAL, TINLA, and so forth. But remixers could use the srpms, provided in the official Fedora spins, to build some custom "appliance"-spin? fabian ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
