Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Legal aspects of fedora based appliances

2009-12-13 Thread Fabian Deutsch
Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2009, 19:19 -0500 schrieb Paul W. Frields:
 On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 10:22:07PM +0100, Fabian Deutsch wrote:
  Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2009, 16:14 -0500 schrieb Paul W. Frields:
   On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 09:57:10PM +0100, Fabian Deutsch wrote:
Hello.

Fedora contains various tools for appliance creation. AFAIK it is
intended that Fedora shall be used as a base for various appliances ISVs
or OEMs want to create. But there is there some legal-guide which
summarizes the legal aspects of Fedora based appliances e.g. when I want
to distribute a Fedora AOS with some proprietary software? (As some kind
of media-center).
   
   I'm assuming you mean guidance on whether, and how, these types of
   appliances can use the Fedora name and associated trademarks. You
   can find our full trademark guidelines here:
   
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines
   
   The particular section on appliances and OS images is here:
   
 
   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines#Virtual_images_or_appliances_with_unmodified_Fedora_software
 
   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines#Virtual_images_or_appliances_with_combinations_of_Fedora_software_with_non-Fedora_or_modified_Fedora_software
  
  The usage of the Fedora tardemark is just one point. There are more
  questions (for me at least :) ), like:
  Will a appliance providers have to keep the sources of all distributed
  packages, even if they are official Fedora packages?
 
 Spot or someone else will correct me if I go wrong here, but because
 the Fedora Project ships source pursuant to the requirements of the
 GPLv2 section 3(a), downstream remixers cannot simply point to the
 Fedora Project for source distribution (as in section 3(c)).  This is
 intentional and unlikely to change in the near future.  Also, section
 3(c) as I understand it is not workable for commercial redistributors.

Okay. Thansk to clarify this.

 The best solution I can imagine is for downstream remixers to simply
 prepare the matching source collection, and offer it at the same point
 of distribution under GPL 3(a) as well.  IANAL, TINLA, and so forth.

But remixers could use the srpms, provided in the official Fedora spins,
to build some custom appliance-spin?

fabian


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[Fedora-legal-list] Legal aspects of fedora based appliances

2009-12-09 Thread Fabian Deutsch
Hello.

Fedora contains various tools for appliance creation. AFAIK it is
intended that Fedora shall be used as a base for various appliances ISVs
or OEMs want to create. But there is there some legal-guide which
summarizes the legal aspects of Fedora based appliances e.g. when I want
to distribute a Fedora AOS with some proprietary software? (As some kind
of media-center).

Greetings
fabian

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Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Legal aspects of fedora based appliances

2009-12-09 Thread Fabian Deutsch
Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2009, 16:14 -0500 schrieb Paul W. Frields:
 On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 09:57:10PM +0100, Fabian Deutsch wrote:
  Hello.
  
  Fedora contains various tools for appliance creation. AFAIK it is
  intended that Fedora shall be used as a base for various appliances ISVs
  or OEMs want to create. But there is there some legal-guide which
  summarizes the legal aspects of Fedora based appliances e.g. when I want
  to distribute a Fedora AOS with some proprietary software? (As some kind
  of media-center).
 
 I'm assuming you mean guidance on whether, and how, these types of
 appliances can use the Fedora name and associated trademarks. You
 can find our full trademark guidelines here:
 
   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines
 
 The particular section on appliances and OS images is here:
 
   
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines#Virtual_images_or_appliances_with_unmodified_Fedora_software
   
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines#Virtual_images_or_appliances_with_combinations_of_Fedora_software_with_non-Fedora_or_modified_Fedora_software

The usage of the Fedora tardemark is just one point. There are more
questions (for me at least :) ), like:
Will a appliance providers have to keep the sources of all distributed
packages, even if they are official Fedora packages?

- fabian



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Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Legal aspects of fedora based appliances

2009-12-09 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 10:22:07PM +0100, Fabian Deutsch wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2009, 16:14 -0500 schrieb Paul W. Frields:
  On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 09:57:10PM +0100, Fabian Deutsch wrote:
   Hello.
   
   Fedora contains various tools for appliance creation. AFAIK it is
   intended that Fedora shall be used as a base for various appliances ISVs
   or OEMs want to create. But there is there some legal-guide which
   summarizes the legal aspects of Fedora based appliances e.g. when I want
   to distribute a Fedora AOS with some proprietary software? (As some kind
   of media-center).
  
  I'm assuming you mean guidance on whether, and how, these types of
  appliances can use the Fedora name and associated trademarks. You
  can find our full trademark guidelines here:
  
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines
  
  The particular section on appliances and OS images is here:
  

  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines#Virtual_images_or_appliances_with_unmodified_Fedora_software

  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines#Virtual_images_or_appliances_with_combinations_of_Fedora_software_with_non-Fedora_or_modified_Fedora_software
 
 The usage of the Fedora tardemark is just one point. There are more
 questions (for me at least :) ), like:
 Will a appliance providers have to keep the sources of all distributed
 packages, even if they are official Fedora packages?

Spot or someone else will correct me if I go wrong here, but because
the Fedora Project ships source pursuant to the requirements of the
GPLv2 section 3(a), downstream remixers cannot simply point to the
Fedora Project for source distribution (as in section 3(c)).  This is
intentional and unlikely to change in the near future.  Also, section
3(c) as I understand it is not workable for commercial redistributors.

The best solution I can imagine is for downstream remixers to simply
prepare the matching source collection, and offer it at the same point
of distribution under GPL 3(a) as well.  IANAL, TINLA, and so forth.

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