Re: F9 Login theme

[Kevin Kofler]

Brian C. Huffman  graze.net> writes:
> I downloaded the fedorainfinity theme for gdm, but I don't see how to make it
> take effect.

You can't, GDM in Fedora 9 is completely rewritten, so themes written for the 
version in Fedora 8 will not work with the version in F9.

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Re: mplayerplug-in and trailers at Apple.com

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 18:18 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 19:31 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 11:41 +0100, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
> > > 2008/5/23 Andre Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I've been happily using mplayerplug-in to watch movie trailers on
> > > > http://www.apple.com/trailers for quite some time, but lately I've
> > > > been denied access to some movies with a "get latest quicktime"
> > > > message (other movies still play as they used to).
> > > 
> > > Hey,
> > > 
> > > I've not followed this thread that closely, but I thought I'd let you
> > > know that I can view all the media on apple's site with
> > > totem-mozplugin and the xine backend for totem.
> > > 
> > > Do:
> > > 
> > > yum install gstreamer-plugins-bad streamer-plugins-bad-extra
> > > gstreamer-plugins-ugly xine-lib-extras-nonfree xine totem-mozplugin
> > > 
> > > totem-backend -b xine
> > > 
> > > yum remove mplayerplug-in (gecko-mediaplayer)
> > > -
> > > and you should find that things work :)
> > 
> > It didn't. I installed and removed as suggested, restarted Firefox,
> > visited a trailer page and clicked on the URL, and absolutely nothing
> > happened.
> > 
> > BTW there's no streamer-plugins-bad-extra. It's
> > gstreamer-plugins-bad-extras.
> 
> I still can't get the trailers to play from Apple's web site but no
> problem playing the trailers from the studios web sites or videos from
> CNN (which have never worked as smoothly as they are now).
> 
> I have to believe that Apple is really clamping down hard on the DRM to
> prevent non-quicktime players from working.

There's no indication that this is a DRM problem. If it were, I would
expect the plugin to start up and then not work, but to repeat myself,
literally *nothing* happens, not even the "transferring data" message in
the lower border.

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Re: Fedora 9 - Wireless SUCCESS - Use TKIP, not AES

[john wendel]

Kevin J. Cummings wrote:

john wendel wrote:


After several hours of fiddling with the non-working wireless network 
in my new Fedora installation, I noticed in the log file a list of 
supported security modules - and "WPA - AES" wasn't in the list.


So, I changed my router to use "WPA - TKIP" instead of "WPA - AES". I 
then restarted the box, and got an perfect wireless connection.


It would really be nice if the #$$%%# software would have mentioned 
that it doesn't support "AES".


I'm confused.  So why does my connection at home work using WPA-AES?
I'm using a Linksys wrt54g, stock.  NetworkManger w/wpa_supplicant on my 
F9 laptop.  As a matter of fact, it works both for me at home, and at my 
mother's place where her router is configured for WPA-TKIP


What are you missing that I already have?


Regards,

John


Well, I'm obviously more confused than you. I sldo have a Linksys wrt54g 
V6 (sort of old), if that makes any difference. I'm running F9 with all 
the latest updates on an Acer with Intel IPW2200 (again, not the latest 
stuff) wireless. I was previously running Fedora 6 and it was working fine.


Thanks for letting me know that AES should work. Maybe I'll experiment 
with it some more.


John


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Re: OT: (D)DoS attack mitigation

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 22:51 -0400, Temlakos wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 17:41 -0400, Temlakos wrote:
> >   
> >> Anyone have a line on things that a root-accessed server admin can do to 
> >> stop a (D)DoS attack?
> >> 
> >
> > A DDOS attack on what? What services are you running that might be
> > attacked? Are all unnecessary ports closed?
> >
> > poc
> >
> >   
> The attack, if that's what it is, is against Web service (Apache) at 
> port 80. It's a Wiki site, on a server running CentOS 5. The site seems 
> to be running again, but a few hours ago I was getting connection 
> resets, timeouts, and "can't find server" messages. And at one point, my 
> Web host said that the apache system account was making too many requests.

Resets, timeouts and "not found" messages are usually indicative of
overloading at the network level. If the DDOS is simply swamping your
input, there's really nothing to be done within your system except wait
it out. Any countermeasures will have to be at the ISP level.

> I just installed wireshark, but now I can't get wireshark to start: 
> "command not found." What directory is that supposed to install in?

'rpm -ql wireshark' will list all the files in the package. The
executables are usually at the top.

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Re: PATH Issues

[Gordon Messmer]

Sieranski, Greg wrote:

my .bashrc is empty. I have not touched it.


Well, that's kind of weird.  For whatever reason, it sounds like your X 
session starts out with a bash login shell that sets up and exports the 
environment, and then your terminals run login shells, too.


What desktop are you using?  If you run "ps axf", what processes are the 
children of gdm (or whatever dm you use)?


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Re: Fedora 9 - Wireless SUCCESS - Use TKIP, not AES

[Kevin J. Cummings]

john wendel wrote:


After several hours of fiddling with the non-working wireless network in 
my new Fedora installation, I noticed in the log file a list of 
supported security modules - and "WPA - AES" wasn't in the list.


So, I changed my router to use "WPA - TKIP" instead of "WPA - AES". I 
then restarted the box, and got an perfect wireless connection.


It would really be nice if the #$$%%# software would have mentioned that 
it doesn't support "AES".


I'm confused.  So why does my connection at home work using WPA-AES?
I'm using a Linksys wrt54g, stock.  NetworkManger w/wpa_supplicant on my 
F9 laptop.  As a matter of fact, it works both for me at home, and at my 
mother's place where her router is configured for WPA-TKIP


What are you missing that I already have?


Regards,

John




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Re: Fedora 9 disk full problem

[Craig White]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 13:45 -0700, f f wrote:
> It happened today, I was writing some code from Gnome and suddenly I couldn't 
> save.
> I installed Fedora on a ide 40gb hdd so it couldn't be full...
> du said I have ~30gb in /var/log/httpd. now that was could have been some log 
> file... the problem is that i only installed the system yesterday and just 
> started apache for like 2-3 hours. anyway
> i deleted the logs and rebooted
> 
> all ok for 1-2 hours, now again disk full, but du says its ok
> 
> any ideeas?

maybe before you delete the log, you might want to read some of the log
file to get a clue what the problem is.

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Re: New kernels do not work.

[Antti J. Huhtala]

la, 2008-05-24 kello 15:52 -0400, Steve kirjoitti:
>  "Antti J. Huhtala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > pe, 2008-05-23 kello 05:47 +0300, Antti J. Huhtala kirjoitti:
> > > to, 2008-05-22 kello 19:15 -0400, slamp slamp kirjoitti:
> > > > Please help. PC stuck in grub> prompt.
> > > > 
> > > The latest kernel update  2.6.25.3-18.fc9 - or one of the 199 files
> > > updated at the same time - rewrote grub.conf so that (in my case) the
> > > line which should have read:
> > > 
> > > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.3-18.fc9.x86_64 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00
> > > rhgb quiet
> > > 
> > > actually read:
> > > 
> > > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.3-18.fc9.x86_64 ro
> > > root=UUID=ab562fb5-0a9a-4458-9f30-61c8a23f774a rhgb quiet
> > > 
> > > Somehow my /dev/VolGroup... had been changed to UUID=...
> > > 
> > > The same error had been applied to the previous kernel (2.6.25-14.fc9)
> > > so that neither would boot.
> > > 
> > Bugzilla # 448132.
> 
> I have the same problem except that correcting my grub.conf file did not 
> help. I'm still stuck with just GRUB showing on the screen. Also I did not 
> get any sounds.
> 
> Any futher suggestions?
> 
Sorry, looking back at my cryptic hand-written notes I realize I forgot
to mention that I ran 'grub-install' before editing grub.conf. On the
basis of time-stamps of the files in /boot/grub, almost all files were
rewritten but grub.conf was not. My notes don't record whether I tried
rebooting after running grub-install but IIRC I probably did. I seem to
recollect that I was still stuck at "GRUB".
Therefore I edited grub.conf and tried again. This time reboot worked
for me so I didn't delve into it further.
Whether the real remedy was running grub-install or editing grub.conf
*or both*, I don't know. The fact remains I'm typing this with 'fully'
operational F9 system.

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Re: mplayerplug-in and trailers at Apple.com

[Ric Moore]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 18:18 -0700, Craig White wrote:

> I have to believe that Apple is really clamping down hard on the DRM to
> prevent non-quicktime players from working.

Craig, is it time for another tirade from me concerning Steve Jobs?
 Be glad to do it, anytime! :) Ric

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Re: repository for thunderbird [solved]

[Ric Moore]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 19:57 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Saturday 24 May 2008 19:51:26 Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> > Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> > > g wrote:
> > > > > change to thunderbird.
> > > > >
> > > > > would appreciate a link.
> > > >
> > > > finaly. perserveriance pays off.
> > > >
> > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/thunderbird
> > >
> > > My only gripe with Thunderbird is that it does not
> > > seem to work with my Exchange 2000 Email server. I
> > > don't think it is the problem with Exchange but if
> > > I am mistaken, I would love to hear about it.
> > >
> > > I could not understand why Thunderbird is not able
> > > obtain all of my folders/subfolders.  There is this
> > > thing called "Subscribe" but it seems that it is
> > > limited to "Inbox", "Trash" and "Junk".  I have
> > > hundreds of folders under my inbox as well as
> > > other things, and IMAP clients DO find them, so
> > > what is the deal with Thunderbird?  Is there an
> > > option somewhere that I am missing?
> > >
> > > Anyone, please?
> > >
> > > Thanks-
> > > Dan
> >
> > Ah, I shoulda -kept my mouth shut- and tried harder!
> >
> > I figured it all out and got Thunderbird to work!
> > AWESOME!
> >
> But for the sake of those reading the archives you should tell all :-)
Inquiring minds want to know, right Anne? :) Ric

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Re: New kernels do not work.

[Antti J. Huhtala]

la, 2008-05-24 kello 18:16 -0400, slamp slamp kirjoitti:
> On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  "Antti J. Huhtala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> pe, 2008-05-23 kello 05:47 +0300, Antti J. Huhtala kirjoitti:
> >> > to, 2008-05-22 kello 19:15 -0400, slamp slamp kirjoitti:
> >> > > Please help. PC stuck in grub> prompt.
> >> > >
> >> > The latest kernel update  2.6.25.3-18.fc9 - or one of the 199 files
> >> > updated at the same time - rewrote grub.conf so that (in my case) the
> >> > line which should have read:
> >> >
> >> > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.3-18.fc9.x86_64 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00
> >> > rhgb quiet
> >> >
> >> > actually read:
> >> >
> >> > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.3-18.fc9.x86_64 ro
> >> > root=UUID=ab562fb5-0a9a-4458-9f30-61c8a23f774a rhgb quiet
> >> >
> >> > Somehow my /dev/VolGroup... had been changed to UUID=...
> >> >
> >> > The same error had been applied to the previous kernel (2.6.25-14.fc9)
> >> > so that neither would boot.
> >> >
> >> Bugzilla # 448132.
> >
> > I have the same problem except that correcting my grub.conf file did not 
> > help. I'm still stuck with just GRUB showing on the screen. Also I did not 
> > get any sounds.
> >
> > Any futher suggestions?
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > --
> > 
> 
> well my issue was either fedora or grub not being able work well with
> "fakeraid". anything i tried nothing helped. i reinstalled grub to the
> right fakeraid device and it did not help. so what i did was deleted
> the "fakeraid" from intel bios and just did a software raid (mdadm).
> this works better than dmraid and grub or fedora seems to properly use
> the /dev/md* device. "fakeraid" sucks, too bad i did not catch this
> when i bought my pc (powerspec e361).
> 
Unfortunately I know next to nothing of RAIDed filesystems, but it would
seem logical to assume that if you're stuck with "GRUB" it is because
grub doesn't know where to go next.
Another thread today deals with /etc/fstab containing UUIDs instead of
filesystem partitions. It would be my guess that a working Fedora system
knows how to handle UUIDs but I doubt that GRUB knows how to do it. If
I'm wrong about this, I'll be happy to stand corrected.
See my other reply today in this thread for something to try...

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Re: what kind of /etc/fstab is this?

[Arthur Pemberton]

On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Amadeus W.M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> The benefit is to people with multiple installations because it causes a
>> bunch of issues to use standardized labels.
>>
>> Not related to selinux, not related to encryption, just related to
>> absolutely unique handles.
>>
>> Craig
>
> So I can't change this, can I?


Its your system, do whatever you want with it. This is just a safer default.


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Fedora 9 - Wireless SUCCESS - Use TKIP, not AES

[john wendel]

After several hours of fiddling with the non-working wireless network in 
my new Fedora installation, I noticed in the log file a list of 
supported security modules - and "WPA - AES" wasn't in the list.


So, I changed my router to use "WPA - TKIP" instead of "WPA - AES". I 
then restarted the box, and got an perfect wireless connection.


It would really be nice if the #$$%%# software would have mentioned that 
it doesn't support "AES".


Regards,

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Re: Amarock - wma format questions

[Ric Moore]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 09:00 -0700, stan wrote:
> Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> > I have several wma file that plays fine on amarock, but then again there
> > are some wma files that won't play at all.  In the ones that fail, I get a
> > message saying: "There is no available decoder", it does not say
> > anything else.

> >   
> You're more likely to find this for windows.  So you would run the 
> conversion on windows where
> the codecs for wma were written by microsoft.  A search should find lots 
> of candidates.

Just for grins, I located several wma files and mplayer plays them just
fine. I would think that would convert them to whatever you want if you
can grasp the mplayer command line. 

Huh, just tried that file with Amarok and it plays. So, I went back to
command line mplayer and it says this about that file:

Playing amrdiab-walaalabalo.wma.
ASF file format detected.
Clip info:
 name: Wala Ala Balo
 author: Amr Diab
 copyright: � 2000-2001 RomanySaad.com
 comments:
==
Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders
AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 1 ch, s16le, 32.0 kbit/4.54% (ratio: 4003->88200)
Selected audio codec: [ffwmav2] afm: ffmpeg (DivX audio v2 (FFmpeg))

So, ffmpeg is handling it. I use ffmpeg and all of it's add-ons from
freshrpms, as I had problems with livna in the past. I would suggest you
try command line mplayer on your file and see if it plays and if it is
identified as ASF file format. God only knows what wma was when my file
was created in 2001 and what it is now. But, if all things match up,
it's doable with Amarok. And ffmpeg will convert just about anything to
anything else. Ric

p/s Amr Diab rocks if you like Eastern Music in a progressive rock
style. He's like Elvis to the new westernized Saudi crowd. Just google,
get this file and see if it'll play on your current Amarok. Ric

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Re: what kind of /etc/fstab is this?

[Todd Zullinger]

Amadeus W.M. wrote:
> So I can't change this, can I?

You're perfectly free to change them.  However, if you change them to
use device names, you're not allowed to complain if it breaks because
the device names change on reboot someday. :)

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Re: FreeDB Updates?

[Todd Zullinger]

Sean Bruno wrote:
> I stumbled upon a couple of CD's in my collection that don't seem to
> be known by FreeDB. 

Hehe.  That's rare these days it seems. :)

> How does one update the database from Fedora?

I'm still using grip for ripping.  I don't often need to submit
things, but I have on occasion.  Grip can send updates via email to
FreeDB.org.  The address should be right by default, but if not, the
FreeDB FAQ says it is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To send an update from grip, click the pencil icon to toggle the disc
editor.  Then click the envelope icon to submit disc info.

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Re: alsaconf for Fedora

[Ric Moore]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 09:50 -0700, stan wrote:
> Ric Moore wrote:
> > Is there any particular reason that alsaconf is not included in Fedora?
> > If it works and it's simple, I'd like to see it. I'm getting a blooming
> > headache reading the "howtos" to set up 6 channel sound. I've used
> > kasound in the past and it worked well. Now, it's not doing the trick
> > for whatever reason. Setting up speakers shouldn't be a weekend's worth
> > of work, if there is a nice gentle-to-the-user gui out there. Thanx! Ric
> >
> >   
> I can't speak to why alsaconf is not included.  But if your sound card 
> supports
> 5.1, alsa should already have created a shortcut to use it.  At a 
> command line
> run aplay -lLv.  If you see something in the output that looks like 
> surround51,
> that means that is the device you have to use to play 5.1.
> 
> In your home directory, create a file called .asoundrc.  In that file 
> put this
> code.
> 
> pcm.!default {
>   surround51
> }
> ctl.!default {
>   surround51
> }
> 
> This should make surround 5.1 your default sound configuration.  You can 
> test this
> by running
> 
> aplay -D default some.wav
> 
> Sound should come from all speakers.
> 
> You can test whether surround51 is defined by running
> 
> aplay -D surround51 some.wav
> 
> Here is the link I consulted for this:  
> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc

Yup, read that one. I have 6 speakers (6.0) My Ali Corp M5455 has
speaker-out, line-out and line-in. But, you can plug stereo speakers
into all three and with the right settings, get nice front, middle, rear
out. kasound worked great until the last update. It would generate the
correct .asoundrc file for you. Really sweet app, but it hasn't been
supported for a couple of years now and is long in the tooth. I was just
hoping to find a nice little gui, tell it what I have, and let it edit
the file for me. You know, just like Windows.  

But I did google and found quite a few methods of composing
the .asoundrc file. So, I found an rpm for alsaconf but it was for Suse
or Mandrake and requires rpms we don't have so I scrapped that notion.
So, being as the alsa crowd has a gui-configuration scheme, it would be
nice to have it for Fedora. Thank you again for your response, I'll give
it a go and see what happens! Ric

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Re: Browser plugin: You Tube video

[Chris]

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Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Chris wrote:
> 
>> Odd - I must have removed something. What's the plugin to view video on
>> You Tube via Firefox?
> 
> I followed religiously the instructions
> in Mauriat Miranda's "Personal Fedora 8 Installation Guide"
> ,
> and flash works perfectly for me.
> In fact this is just about the only Multimedia application
> that does work for me under Fedora-9 without any problems.
> 
> 

Agreed. I followed that link after I sent out my original mail.
I am running fine now.  BTW - that is a very good link.

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Re: Weirdness with Fedora/XP upgrade -- update

[Ric Moore]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 20:55 +, Beartooth Sciurivore wrote:


>   How can I tell anaconda *NOT* to try to install Tomboy?

Last time something like that happened to me, I used an icepick. I felt
better afterward and had a smoke.  Ric

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Thunderbird Thread balloons

[Kevin J. Cummings]

Can someone tell me why my thread "balloons" in Thunderbird are messed 
up?  I now have 2 machines the same way.  Please see attached pic.



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Re: Browser plugin: You Tube video

[Timothy Murphy]

Chris wrote:

> Odd - I must have removed something. What's the plugin to view video on
> You Tube via Firefox?

I followed religiously the instructions
in Mauriat Miranda's "Personal Fedora 8 Installation Guide"
,
and flash works perfectly for me.
In fact this is just about the only Multimedia application
that does work for me under Fedora-9 without any problems.


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Re: OT: (D)DoS attack mitigation

[Temlakos]

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 17:41 -0400, Temlakos wrote:
  
Anyone have a line on things that a root-accessed server admin can do to 
stop a (D)DoS attack?



A DDOS attack on what? What services are you running that might be
attacked? Are all unnecessary ports closed?

poc

  
The attack, if that's what it is, is against Web service (Apache) at 
port 80. It's a Wiki site, on a server running CentOS 5. The site seems 
to be running again, but a few hours ago I was getting connection 
resets, timeouts, and "can't find server" messages. And at one point, my 
Web host said that the apache system account was making too many requests.


It's a remote server to which I have root access--at least, whenever I 
can sign in.


The Web host is supposed to have mod-dosevasive and a Brute Force 
Detection package installed. Assuming that those packages are in fact 
working, what other measures should I take?


I need to have port 80 open for ordinary Web service, plus one other 
port open for signing in as a domain-management client or as a server 
administrator. I also use ssh on occasion, but I normally forbid that, 
and open it only when necessary to get in, run a few quick scripts, and 
then get out.


The "top" command reveals two routines by apache; the rest run by root.

I just installed wireshark, but now I can't get wireshark to start: 
"command not found." What directory is that supposed to install in?


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Re: Testing sound from kcontrol fails (no sound) with no apparent errors.

[dcw]

On Saturday 24 May 2008 9:32 pm, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> dcw wrote:
> > Tested for sound with the following:
> > 1) When using kcontrol to test sound, it fails with no apparent errors.
>
> As a matter of interest, how did you use kcontrol to test sound?
> What command precisely did you give?
control center for kde is the program kcontrol.
after the the window comes up go to
sound & multimedia -> sound system
near the bottom is a button to 'test sound'.

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Re: what kind of /etc/fstab is this?

[Steve Searle]

Around 03:33am on Sunday, May 25, 2008 (UK time), Amadeus W.M. scrawled:

> So I can't change this, can I?

They are just the partition labels, so you should be able to.

steve

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Re: repository for thunderbird [solved]

[Craig White]

On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 02:26 +, g wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 13:46 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> > On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 20:00 +, g wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 19:26 +, g wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 19:09 +, g wrote:
> > > > > i guess i got too excited. above is wrong. going back to check again.
> > > > 
> > > > further reading linked to;
> > > > 
> > > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=47833
> > > 
> > > ok. now i am having problems with download. sits at 'starting', but
> > > never loads.
> > > 
> > > i am stopping for now, will try later.
> > 
> > dude...
> > 
> > yum install thunderbird
> > 
> > why is that so hard?
> > 
> > Craig
> > 
> 
> but dude...
> 
> like man i know how to peck keys.
> 
> dog. give me a break. read my other post,
> 
> this round, read..
> 
> +
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] geo]#
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] geo]# date
> Sun May 25 02:15:16 UTC 2008
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] geo]# yum install thunderbird
> Setting up Install Process
> Parsing package install arguments
> No package thunderbird available.
> Nothing to do
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] geo]#
> +
> 
> this not working. like, there are no bananas...
> 
> and why i scoped fedora**.net to see where reposi was stashed.
> 
> i did find, but i am loosing my login id along way and time out
> when i try pulling files.
> 
> what i found is a prefix url and may be what is where a fault lies.
> i do not know.
> 
> i just may try ftp to see what shows.
> 
> later.
> 
> after sending this, i will offline, play root for a while to check logs.

either you keep hitting a bad mirror or you've done something to the
default fedora.repo file because it should just show up and work...

# yum search thunderbird
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, priorities, refresh-packagekit
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * livna: livna.cat.pdx.edu
 * fedora: ftp.uci.edu
 * adobe-linux-i386: linuxdownload.adobe.com
 * updates: ftp.uci.edu
== Matched:
thunderbird
===
beagle-thunderbird.i386 : Beagle backend for Thunderbird
kdocker.i386 : Dock any application in the system tray
thunderbird.i386 : Mozilla Thunderbird mail/newsgroup client
thunderbird-lightning.i386 : The calendar extension to Thunderbird

but if you want a direct link...I'm guessing this is close to you
(bellsouth)

http://mirror.liberty.edu/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386/os/Packages/thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc9.i386.rpm

Craig

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oops on starting up [kde desktop]

[gary artim]

Hi --

oops'ing when I boot straight into the kde desktop. When I boot in
runlevel 3, then
startx works fine. If I swapout radeon X11 driver and use vesa no
problem. I'm unsure of
what is causing the problem. No oops info in the log but do be a
"flashing" caps-lock,
scroll-lock. Can anyone advise me on getting info on the oops? I'd
like to learn more about
this kind of troubleshooting. I have read
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/oops-tracing.txt. Thanks
for any help...my lspci:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8385 [K8T800 AGP] Host
Bridge (rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI bridge
[K8T800/K8T890 South]
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169
Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10)
00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA
RAID Controller (rev 80)
00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc.
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1
Controller (rev 81)
00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1
Controller (rev 81)
00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1
Controller (rev 81)
00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1
Controller (rev 81)
00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge
[KT600/K8T800/K8T890 South]
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.
VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8
[Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8
[Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8
[Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8
[Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon
9200 SE] (rev 01)
01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200
SE] (Secondary) (rev 01)

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Re: what kind of /etc/fstab is this?

[Amadeus W.M.]

> The benefit is to people with multiple installations because it causes a
> bunch of issues to use standardized labels.
> 
> Not related to selinux, not related to encryption, just related to
> absolutely unique handles.
> 
> Craig

So I can't change this, can I?


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Re: Testing sound from kcontrol fails (no sound) with no apparent errors.

[Timothy Murphy]

dcw wrote:

> Tested for sound with the following:
> 1) When using kcontrol to test sound, it fails with no apparent errors.

As a matter of interest, how did you use kcontrol to test sound?
What command precisely did you give?




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Re: what kind of /etc/fstab is this?

[Amadeus W.M.]

> I'm curious: what linux version and kernel you have?
> 
> ~af

 uname -a
Linux phoenix 2.6.25.3-18.fc9.i686 #1 SMP Tue May 13 05:38:53 EDT 2008 
i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux


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Re: repository for thunderbird [solved]

[g]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 13:46 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 20:00 +, g wrote:
> > On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 19:26 +, g wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 19:09 +, g wrote:
> > > > i guess i got too excited. above is wrong. going back to check again.
> > > 
> > > further reading linked to;
> > > 
> > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=47833
> > 
> > ok. now i am having problems with download. sits at 'starting', but
> > never loads.
> > 
> > i am stopping for now, will try later.
> 
> dude...
> 
> yum install thunderbird
> 
> why is that so hard?
> 
> Craig
> 

but dude...

like man i know how to peck keys.

dog. give me a break. read my other post,

this round, read..

+
[EMAIL PROTECTED] geo]#
[EMAIL PROTECTED] geo]# date
Sun May 25 02:15:16 UTC 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED] geo]# yum install thunderbird
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
No package thunderbird available.
Nothing to do
[EMAIL PROTECTED] geo]#
+

this not working. like, there are no bananas...

and why i scoped fedora**.net to see where reposi was stashed.

i did find, but i am loosing my login id along way and time out
when i try pulling files.

what i found is a prefix url and may be what is where a fault lies.
i do not know.

i just may try ftp to see what shows.

later.

after sending this, i will offline, play root for a while to check logs.




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Re: what kind of /etc/fstab is this?

[Aldo Foot]

On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 6:24 PM, Amadeus W.M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just noticed,
>
> cat /etc/fstab
>
> UUID=37f495c9-c91c-4310-9598-14076aad3c62 /   ext3
> defaults1 1
> UUID=db242ada-59d9-4cc3-a0c9-04016ba6245d /backup xfs
> defaults1 2
> UUID=fd4ec4c9-4b0a-4742-a5e2-5f3e25f2a3d1 /varxfs
> defaults1 2
> UUID=6fbc5461-6eb5-4bc7-bb75-7ad96da8c161 /usrext3
> defaults1 2
> UUID=d21466ea-715d-44be-be5c-b162a1460eb1 /usr/local  ext3
> defaults1 2
> UUID=770ebefb-c760-4aef-81f5-57ff41b80ed4 /tmpext3
> defaults1 2
>
> etc.
>
> What's with the cryptic device labels? What creates them? What was wrong
> and what happened with the good ole' /dev/sda? and such? The same crap can
> be found in grub.conf too. Is it selinux? Are my drives encrypted or
> something?
>
> And what can I do to get back to the sane old-style drive names?
>
> Yes, I know I can do mount to see what drive is mounted where, but I
> really don't understand what purpose this sort of improvement serves.
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I'm curious: what linux version and kernel you have?

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Re: [SOLVED] Testing sound from kcontrol fails (no sound) with no apparent errors.

[dcw]

On Saturday 24 May 2008 5:51 pm, stan wrote:
> dcw wrote:
> > On Saturday 24 May 2008 4:41 pm, stan wrote:
> >> dcw wrote:
> >>> I posted this on the KDE mailing list and they reccommended that I
> >>> re-post on this list.
> >>>
> >>> Current setup:
> >>> Motherboard: M2A-VM has a connector for either ac97 or hd sound. I am
> >>> using ac97
> >>> Sound output: line output from computer to tv.
> >>> OS: Fedora 8 with all updates
> >>>
> >>> Tested for sound with the following:
> >>> 1) When using kcontrol to test sound, it fails with no apparent errors.
> >>> 2) When using aplay to test sound, it fails with no apparent errors.
> >>
> >> You could try running with the -v option,
> >> verbose.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#aplay -v
> > /mnt/sda2/usr/share/apps/korganizer/sounds/spinout.wav Playing WAVE
> > '/mnt/sda2/usr/share/apps/korganizer/sounds/spinout.wav' : Unsigned 8
> > bit, Rate 5512 Hz, Mono
> > Plug PCM: Rate conversion PCM (48000, sformat=U8)
> > Its setup is:
> >   stream   : PLAYBACK
> >   access   : RW_INTERLEAVED
> >   format   : U8
> >   subformat: STD
> >   channels : 1
> >   rate : 5512
> >   exact rate   : 5512 (5512/1)
> >   msbits   : 8
> >   buffer_size  : 1881
> >   period_size  : 117
> >   period_time  : 21333
> >   tick_time: 0
> >   tstamp_mode  : NONE
> >   period_step  : 1
> >   sleep_min: 0
> >   avail_min: 117
> >   xfer_align   : 117
> >   start_threshold  : 1872
> >   stop_threshold   : 1881
> >   silence_threshold: 0
> >   silence_size : 0
> >   boundary : 123273216
> > Slave: Route conversion PCM (sformat=S16_LE)
> >   Transformation table:
> > 0 <- 0
> > 1 <- 0
> > Its setup is:
> >   stream   : PLAYBACK
> >   access   : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
> >   format   : U8
> >   subformat: STD
> >   channels : 1
> >   rate : 48000
> >   exact rate   : 48000 (48000/1)
> >   msbits   : 8
> >   buffer_size  : 16384
> >   period_size  : 1024
> >   period_time  : 21333
> >   tick_time: 0
> >   tstamp_mode  : NONE
> >   period_step  : 1
> >   sleep_min: 0
> >   avail_min: 1024
> >   xfer_align   : 1024
> >   start_threshold  : 16384
> >   stop_threshold   : 16384
> >   silence_threshold: 0
> >   silence_size : 0
> >   boundary : 1073741824
> > Slave: Soft volume PCM
> > Control: PCM Playback Volume
> > min_dB: -51
> > max_dB: 0
> > resolution: 256
> > Its setup is:
> >   stream   : PLAYBACK
> >   access   : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
> >   format   : S16_LE
> >   subformat: STD
> >   channels : 2
> >   rate : 48000
> >   exact rate   : 48000 (48000/1)
> >   msbits   : 16
> >   buffer_size  : 16384
> >   period_size  : 1024
> >   period_time  : 21333
> >   tick_time: 0
> >   tstamp_mode  : NONE
> >   period_step  : 1
> >   sleep_min: 0
> >   avail_min: 1024
> >   xfer_align   : 1024
> >   start_threshold  : 16384
> >   stop_threshold   : 16384
> >   silence_threshold: 0
> >   silence_size : 0
> >   boundary : 1073741824
> > Slave: Direct Stream Mixing PCM
> > Its setup is:
> >   stream   : PLAYBACK
> >   access   : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
> >   format   : S16_LE
> >   subformat: STD
> >   channels : 2
> >   rate : 48000
> >   exact rate   : 48000 (48000/1)
> >   msbits   : 16
> >   buffer_size  : 16384
> >   period_size  : 1024
> >   period_time  : 21333
> >   tick_time: 0
> >   tstamp_mode  : NONE
> >   period_step  : 1
> >   sleep_min: 0
> >   avail_min: 1024
> >   xfer_align   : 1024
> >   start_threshold  : 16384
> >   stop_threshold   : 16384
> >   silence_threshold: 0
> >   silence_size : 0
> >   boundary : 1073741824
> > Hardware PCM card 0 'HDA ATI SB' device 1 subdevice 0
> > Its setup is:
> >   stream   : PLAYBACK
> >   access   : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
> >   format   : S16_LE
> >   subformat: STD
> >   channels : 2
> >   rate : 48000
> >   exact rate   : 48000 (48000/1)
> >   msbits   : 16
> >   buffer_size  : 16384
> >   period_size  : 1024
> >   period_time  : 21333
> >   tick_time: 1000
> >   tstamp_mode  : NONE
> >   period_step  : 1
> >   sleep_min: 0
> >   avail_min: 1024
> >   xfer_align   : 1024
> >   start_threshold  : 1
> >   stop_threshold   : 1073741824
> >   silence_threshold: 0
> >   silence_size : 1073741824
> >   boundary : 1073741824
> >
> >> Also run dmesg
> >> immediately after
> >> the failure to see if it logged any messages.
> >
> > No apparent messages from dmesg
> >
> >>> 3) When using system-config-soundcard, the sound works.
> >>
> >> This indicates a configuration issue.  There would be no sound if alsa
> >> hadn't recognized your card.
> >>
> >>> 4) cat'ing a wav file to /dev/dsp works.
> >>
> >> OSS emulation, using alsa, another indication that sound is almost
> >> working.
> >>
> >>> In searching for an answer, one comment was made about pulseaudio
> >>> causing problems so I removed it. Sound test 1 and 2 from above still
> >>> fail

realplayer, streams blocked in fedora 9

[joelvsmith]

I am running Fedora 9 and I have been trying to use realplayer 11 and kaffeine 
to play streams.  after disabling the firewall and selinux i still cannot 
remedy the problem.  

realplayer crashes and produces an error report.

System: Linux 2.6.25-14.fc9.i686 #1 SMP Thu May 1 06:28:41 EDT 2008 i686
X Vendor: The X.Org Foundation
X Vendor Release: 10499901
Selinux: Permissive
Accessibility: Disabled
GTK+ Theme: Nodoka
Icon Theme: Fedora

Memory status: size: 0 vsize: 0 resident: 0 share: 0 rss: 0 rss_rlim: 0
CPU usage: start_time: 0 rtime: 0 utime: 0 stime: 0 cutime:0 cstime: 0 timeout: 
0 it_real_value: 0 frequency: 0



--- .xsession-errors -
*** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused
*** Is your sound server running?
*** See: http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/Troubleshooting
*** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused
*** Is your sound server running?
*** See: http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/Troubleshooting
*** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused
*** Is your sound server running?
*** See: http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/Troubleshooting
*** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused
*** Is your sound server running?
*** See: http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/Troubleshooting
*** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused
*** Is your sound server running?
*** See: http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/Troubleshooting
--

I have looked at 

system -> preferences -> hardware -> sound and volume control

everything is unmuted.

the only thing that seems weird is that the 
system -> preferences -> hardware -> sound -> sound capture -> test does not 
produce a sound.  

is there something i am missing here that is interfering with realplayer and 
other streams from working.  kaffeine makes contact with an internet radio 
stream but there is no sound.  i believe i tried to get mplayer to play at the 
stream as well.  

---

I just found some notes about mplayer and fedora 9 which suggested that mplayer 
should be configured with pulse audio and not alsa.  i changed real player to 
use OSS and not alsa and now it works...  but it seems to me that oss sounds 
more muddy than the default sound system.

is there any way to improve the sound quality?


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FreeDB Updates?

[Sean Bruno]

I stumbled upon a couple of CD's in my collection that don't seem to be
known by FreeDB.  How does one update the database from Fedora?

Sean

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Re: Browser plugin: You Tube video

[Chris]

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> On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 20:34 -0500, Chris wrote:
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>>
>> Odd - I must have removed something. What's the plugin to view video on
>> You Tube via Firefox?
> 
> flash-plugin and maybe one of the open source flash alternatives (gnash
> or the other one whose name I forget)
> 
> Craig
> 

I'll give that a shot. Thought I installed that as I perused the
"Perfect Desktop"



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Re: Browser plugin: You Tube video

[Craig White]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 20:34 -0500, Chris wrote:
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> Odd - I must have removed something. What's the plugin to view video on
> You Tube via Firefox?

flash-plugin and maybe one of the open source flash alternatives (gnash
or the other one whose name I forget)

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Re: Fedora-9 minor issue #4

[Craig White]

On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 02:29 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:

> However, there is still a problem starting applications
> by pressing on icons in the panel.
> I usually have to press several times,
> or else hold down the left button for several seconds,
> before there is a response.

me too...I gave up and removed the application launcher buttons from the
panel and put the ones I want in 'Favorites' - an extra click to be sure
but it does work reliably that way and leaves more room in the task bar
anyway.

Craig

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Re: what kind of /etc/fstab is this?

[Craig White]

On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 01:24 +, Amadeus W.M. wrote:
> Just noticed, 
> 
> cat /etc/fstab
> 
> UUID=37f495c9-c91c-4310-9598-14076aad3c62 /   ext3
> defaults1 1
> UUID=db242ada-59d9-4cc3-a0c9-04016ba6245d /backup xfs 
> defaults1 2
> UUID=fd4ec4c9-4b0a-4742-a5e2-5f3e25f2a3d1 /varxfs 
> defaults1 2
> UUID=6fbc5461-6eb5-4bc7-bb75-7ad96da8c161 /usrext3
> defaults1 2
> UUID=d21466ea-715d-44be-be5c-b162a1460eb1 /usr/local  ext3
> defaults1 2
> UUID=770ebefb-c760-4aef-81f5-57ff41b80ed4 /tmpext3
> defaults1 2
> 
> etc. 
> 
> What's with the cryptic device labels? What creates them? What was wrong 
> and what happened with the good ole' /dev/sda? and such? The same crap can 
> be found in grub.conf too. Is it selinux? Are my drives encrypted or 
> something?
> 
> And what can I do to get back to the sane old-style drive names?
> 
> Yes, I know I can do mount to see what drive is mounted where, but I 
> really don't understand what purpose this sort of improvement serves.

The benefit is to people with multiple installations because it causes a
bunch of issues to use standardized labels.

Not related to selinux, not related to encryption, just related to
absolutely unique handles.

Craig

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Browser plugin: You Tube video

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Odd - I must have removed something. What's the plugin to view video on
You Tube via Firefox?


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Re: Fedora-9 minor issue #4

[Timothy Murphy]

charles f. zeitler wrote:

>> Sometimes - about once a day - when I click on a panel icon
>> my Fedora-9 + KDE system stops responding.
>> The mouse moves but cannot activate anything.
>> 
>> The only solution I have found is Ctr-Alt-Backspace
>> which restarts X (as I understand).
>> 
>> 1) Do others share this experience?
>> 
>> 2) Is there any less drastic solution than Ctr-Alt-Backspace?
> 
> have you tried pressing just the Ctr key?

I would have tried that, certainly.

Actually, this behaviour no longer occurs,
I presume because of some update.
(I run "yum update" religiously every night.)

However, there is still a problem starting applications
by pressing on icons in the panel.
I usually have to press several times,
or else hold down the left button for several seconds,
before there is a response.



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Re: Fedora-9 minor issue #4

[Craig White]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 17:36 -0700, charles f. zeitler wrote:
> --- Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Sometimes - about once a day - when I click on a panel icon
> > my Fedora-9 + KDE system stops responding.
> > The mouse moves but cannot activate anything.
> > 
> > The only solution I have found is Ctr-Alt-Backspace
> > which restarts X (as I understand).
> > 
> > 1) Do others share this experience?
> > 
> > 2) Is there any less drastic solution than Ctr-Alt-Backspace?
> 
> have you tried pressing just the Ctr key?

I remarked on this the other day...you can always try 

to go to a virtual console and  to come back...this often
works.

I think what I am seeing is a big jump in CPU usage in Plasma and X
sometimes when you switch desktops in KDE-4. This problem was much worse
when I was...

- running with only 512MB RAM
- running Firefox after using Acrobat plugin (which doesn't 
  seem to let go well)
- prior to KDE-4 updates 3 days ago or so

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what kind of /etc/fstab is this?

[Amadeus W.M.]

Just noticed, 

cat /etc/fstab

UUID=37f495c9-c91c-4310-9598-14076aad3c62 /   ext3
defaults1 1
UUID=db242ada-59d9-4cc3-a0c9-04016ba6245d /backup xfs 
defaults1 2
UUID=fd4ec4c9-4b0a-4742-a5e2-5f3e25f2a3d1 /varxfs 
defaults1 2
UUID=6fbc5461-6eb5-4bc7-bb75-7ad96da8c161 /usrext3
defaults1 2
UUID=d21466ea-715d-44be-be5c-b162a1460eb1 /usr/local  ext3
defaults1 2
UUID=770ebefb-c760-4aef-81f5-57ff41b80ed4 /tmpext3
defaults1 2

etc. 

What's with the cryptic device labels? What creates them? What was wrong 
and what happened with the good ole' /dev/sda? and such? The same crap can 
be found in grub.conf too. Is it selinux? Are my drives encrypted or 
something?

And what can I do to get back to the sane old-style drive names?

Yes, I know I can do mount to see what drive is mounted where, but I 
really don't understand what purpose this sort of improvement serves.

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Re: mplayerplug-in and trailers at Apple.com

[Craig White]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 19:31 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 11:41 +0100, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
> > 2008/5/23 Andre Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've been happily using mplayerplug-in to watch movie trailers on
> > > http://www.apple.com/trailers for quite some time, but lately I've
> > > been denied access to some movies with a "get latest quicktime"
> > > message (other movies still play as they used to).
> > 
> > Hey,
> > 
> > I've not followed this thread that closely, but I thought I'd let you
> > know that I can view all the media on apple's site with
> > totem-mozplugin and the xine backend for totem.
> > 
> > Do:
> > 
> > yum install gstreamer-plugins-bad streamer-plugins-bad-extra
> > gstreamer-plugins-ugly xine-lib-extras-nonfree xine totem-mozplugin
> > 
> > totem-backend -b xine
> > 
> > yum remove mplayerplug-in (gecko-mediaplayer)
> > -
> > and you should find that things work :)
> 
> It didn't. I installed and removed as suggested, restarted Firefox,
> visited a trailer page and clicked on the URL, and absolutely nothing
> happened.
> 
> BTW there's no streamer-plugins-bad-extra. It's
> gstreamer-plugins-bad-extras.

I still can't get the trailers to play from Apple's web site but no
problem playing the trailers from the studios web sites or videos from
CNN (which have never worked as smoothly as they are now).

I have to believe that Apple is really clamping down hard on the DRM to
prevent non-quicktime players from working.

Craig

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Re: Web server permission in FC9

[Ric Moore]

On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 10:26 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> Tim wrote:
> > Tim:
> >>> THIS IS NOT A TOP POSTING LIST.  I will NOT answer any further top posts
> >>> on this thread, and I won't be the only one that feels that way.  If you
> >>> want help from the members, conform to this list's etiquette.
> > 
> > Charles Layno:
> >> I was going to thank you for your help. It solved my problem but if this 
> >> bothers you to the point of a busting a blood vessel, I think I will look 
> >> elsewhere for help. I know you don't care, and I don't care you don't 
> >> care, 
> >> but you ranting is not worth my time and I will be sure to "spread the 
> >> word" 
> >> of this list's "helpfulness at your own risk" in my travels.
> 
> [snipped most of Tim's observations]
> 
> > Bloated messages waste everybody's bandwidth and storage space (the list
> > server's, and all of the list participants).
> 
> And just how is this tirade reducing bandwidth bloat?  I don't blame you
> for criticizing the top-posting, but address your harangue to the poster

I agree with Tim. Just maybe the several others that top-post might get
a hint as well. I'm on another list, that is supposed to be a very
professional list that top posts technical information and it is hard as
hell to recall anything that was posted. It's a damn sorry state of
affairs. But, since it is the norm of that list, I shut up. Anyone with
two grains of common sense would note very quickly that this is a bottom
posting list as per USENET rules. Who knows, some might even start
trimming their posts as well. Ric

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Re: OT: (D)DoS attack mitigation

[Itamar - IspBrasil]

the only way to stop a ddos in one level up or on the source of the ddos


Temlakos wrote:
Anyone have a line on things that a root-accessed server admin can do 
to stop a (D)DoS attack?


Temlakos




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Re: Fedora-9 minor issue #4

[charles f. zeitler]

--- Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sometimes - about once a day - when I click on a panel icon
> my Fedora-9 + KDE system stops responding.
> The mouse moves but cannot activate anything.
> 
> The only solution I have found is Ctr-Alt-Backspace
> which restarts X (as I understand).
> 
> 1) Do others share this experience?
> 
> 2) Is there any less drastic solution than Ctr-Alt-Backspace?

have you tried pressing just the Ctr key?

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Connecting to stayonline from hotel - help!

[Rick Bilonick]

Running F8 - get connection - can ssh - but always freezes while nokia n810 
(maemo -inux) works fine. Help!
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livecd on USB kernel upgrade?

[Mick M.]

Hello list;
 I created and updated a live F9 USB drive on a 2G stick.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# livecd-iso-to-disk  --overlay-size-mb 1131 
/home/mick/MyDownloads/Fedora-9-i686-Live-KDE.iso /dev/sdc1

Then did a "yum upgrade" in small stages on it.
What I would like to know is how to get the new kernel loaded.

I made the initrd fine.
There is no grub.conf in /boot/grub.
If you hit tab at the boot screen the kernel line looks something like this:
vmlinuz0 initrd0.img root=UUID=XYXYXrw quiet liveimg overlay=UUID=XYXYXY rhgb 
check

Any ideas?

Mick M.


  

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Re: mplayerplug-in and trailers at Apple.com

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 11:41 +0100, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
> 2008/5/23 Andre Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been happily using mplayerplug-in to watch movie trailers on
> > http://www.apple.com/trailers for quite some time, but lately I've
> > been denied access to some movies with a "get latest quicktime"
> > message (other movies still play as they used to).
> 
> Hey,
> 
> I've not followed this thread that closely, but I thought I'd let you
> know that I can view all the media on apple's site with
> totem-mozplugin and the xine backend for totem.
> 
> Do:
> 
> yum install gstreamer-plugins-bad streamer-plugins-bad-extra
> gstreamer-plugins-ugly xine-lib-extras-nonfree xine totem-mozplugin
> 
> totem-backend -b xine
> 
> yum remove mplayerplug-in (gecko-mediaplayer)
> -
> and you should find that things work :)

It didn't. I installed and removed as suggested, restarted Firefox,
visited a trailer page and clicked on the URL, and absolutely nothing
happened.

BTW there's no streamer-plugins-bad-extra. It's
gstreamer-plugins-bad-extras.

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Re: cronie crashing?

[Sam Varshavchik]

Paul Dwerryhouse writes:


On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 06:13:50PM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Is anyone else having cron crash occasionally, in F9? My servers run 
24x7. Once or twice a week, crond disappears. This is happening on my 
i386 server and, after I upgraded my x86_64 server from F8 to F9 this 
morning, six hours later crond died on x86_64.


I've been seeing cron mysteriously die (or suddenly just stop working,
despite remaining running) for years, across lots of different distributions.


Never happened for me, until F9. Cron in F9 is different codebase.



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Re: cronie crashing?

[Paul Dwerryhouse]

On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 06:13:50PM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Is anyone else having cron crash occasionally, in F9? My servers run 
> 24x7. Once or twice a week, crond disappears. This is happening on my 
> i386 server and, after I upgraded my x86_64 server from F8 to F9 this 
> morning, six hours later crond died on x86_64.

I've been seeing cron mysteriously die (or suddenly just stop working,
despite remaining running) for years, across lots of different distributions.

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RE:Epson CX7400 printer and FC9

[dpet]

On Fri, 23 May 2008 23:23:15 -0400 (EDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The latest version of gutenprint is supposedly able to support this 
> printer. Any idea where I find that? If there is one issue with Linux 
> it's that by the time printer and scanner hardware is supported it's
> no longer in production. I can't count how many scanners I have
> bought (new) which just didn't work, and by the time they worked the
> new model or new firmware was out and I couldn't buy the one that
> works.
> 
> Anyway, I would like to use this setup because it's quite neat but 
> totally unsupported.
> 
> Alternatively, if I could use the USB printer and scanner directly
> from Windows under kvm without causing the working system printers to
> die, I would do that. Last time I tried the printer worked but the
> rest of the system printers hung after I did it. :-(

Do you mean that the scan and print drivers at:

http://avasys.jp/hp/menu00500/hpg00442.htm

are not suitable for you?

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Re: USB Ethernet 10/100 dongles ??

[fred smith]

On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 01:41:30PM -0400, Jim wrote:
> Using FC8 on i386
> Does A USB dongle for a 10/100 ethernet work on Fedora ?
> Will they all or just some of them work ?
> Anybody have one that works, want name brands ?
> I have a Gateway computer that doesn't have ethernet port and the 
> standard ethernet cards are to big for this computer, it take a much 
> smaller cards in the PCI slots.

Well, I gotta admit I don't know anything about usb==>network adaptors.

but I've got several cheapo network cards around here using a Realtek
RTL8139 chipset. some of them are little more than an inch tall and not 
much longer than required to plug into the PCI slot. The good news is
that they;ve always worked in all my Linux boxen (though I've not
personally used 'em with a recent Fedora), and even better they tend
to be dirt cheap. I've gotten some of 'em for as little as ten or
twelve bucks.

Surely  something like that would fit your system?

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Can't play sound from terminal w/ some users

[wwp]

Hello there,


I've noticed that when I log in w/ some users in terminals, I'm not
able to play sounds using `aplay`. I get something like the errors
below, whereas it works perfectly for my default user and root.

ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:3510:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver 
returned error: No such device
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:3510:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned 
error: No such device
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:3510:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned 
error: No such device
ALSA lib conf.c:3982:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such device
ALSA lib pcm.c:2145:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
aplay: main:546: audio open error: No such device

Any idea what's wrong?

FYI: Fedora 8, pulse audio disabled.


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Re: OT: (D)DoS attack mitigation

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 17:41 -0400, Temlakos wrote:
> Anyone have a line on things that a root-accessed server admin can do to 
> stop a (D)DoS attack?

A DDOS attack on what? What services are you running that might be
attacked? Are all unnecessary ports closed?

poc

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Re: KDE4 and re-using kde3.5 user areas

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 20:46 +, Mike wrote:
> Although I am currently running KDE4.04 on F9 in which I allowed the user
> area to be created from scratch during install (or using useradd) after
> the install, I have a question as part of advance planning for when I 
> upgrade other systems which have pre-existing user areas in F8.
> 
> Does anyone have any experience in installing F9, and then copying back
> pre-existing user directories from their original F8 files.

By "user area" I assume you mean home directories. The answer is yes,
that's basically what you do and it basically works. In fact I can't
think of any other way to do it that wouldn't involve immense tedium.

> What I mean by this is that the F9 install is done without creating
> any users apart from root.  Then the appropriate user lines are added
> back into passwd, group, shadow and gshadow in /etc and then the 
> pre-existing files from /home/user1 /home/user2 and so on are copied
> back into /home from backup. If this is done and then one of these users
> logs in to KDE4.x using only pre-existing files that were from KDE3.5
> in the earlier system, then 
> a) will the user be able to successfully login to KDE4.0x?

Yes.

> b) if the user can login will there be any nasty consequences from
> the fact that the kde config files relate to the previous 3.5 files?

I haven't seen any so far, but of course YMMV.

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Re: Testing sound from kcontrol fails (no sound) with no apparent errors.

[stan]

dcw wrote:

On Saturday 24 May 2008 4:41 pm, stan wrote:
  

dcw wrote:


I posted this on the KDE mailing list and they reccommended that I
re-post on this list.

Current setup:
Motherboard: M2A-VM has a connector for either ac97 or hd sound. I am
using ac97
Sound output: line output from computer to tv.
OS: Fedora 8 with all updates

Tested for sound with the following:
1) When using kcontrol to test sound, it fails with no apparent errors.
2) When using aplay to test sound, it fails with no apparent errors.
  
You could try running with the -v option, 
verbose.  


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#aplay -v 
/mnt/sda2/usr/share/apps/korganizer/sounds/spinout.wav
Playing WAVE '/mnt/sda2/usr/share/apps/korganizer/sounds/spinout.wav' : 
Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 5512 Hz, Mono

Plug PCM: Rate conversion PCM (48000, sformat=U8)
Its setup is:
  stream   : PLAYBACK
  access   : RW_INTERLEAVED
  format   : U8
  subformat: STD
  channels : 1
  rate : 5512
  exact rate   : 5512 (5512/1)
  msbits   : 8
  buffer_size  : 1881
  period_size  : 117
  period_time  : 21333
  tick_time: 0
  tstamp_mode  : NONE
  period_step  : 1
  sleep_min: 0
  avail_min: 117
  xfer_align   : 117
  start_threshold  : 1872
  stop_threshold   : 1881
  silence_threshold: 0
  silence_size : 0
  boundary : 123273216
Slave: Route conversion PCM (sformat=S16_LE)
  Transformation table:
0 <- 0
1 <- 0
Its setup is:
  stream   : PLAYBACK
  access   : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
  format   : U8
  subformat: STD
  channels : 1
  rate : 48000
  exact rate   : 48000 (48000/1)
  msbits   : 8
  buffer_size  : 16384
  period_size  : 1024
  period_time  : 21333
  tick_time: 0
  tstamp_mode  : NONE
  period_step  : 1
  sleep_min: 0
  avail_min: 1024
  xfer_align   : 1024
  start_threshold  : 16384
  stop_threshold   : 16384
  silence_threshold: 0
  silence_size : 0
  boundary : 1073741824
Slave: Soft volume PCM
Control: PCM Playback Volume
min_dB: -51
max_dB: 0
resolution: 256
Its setup is:
  stream   : PLAYBACK
  access   : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
  format   : S16_LE
  subformat: STD
  channels : 2
  rate : 48000
  exact rate   : 48000 (48000/1)
  msbits   : 16
  buffer_size  : 16384
  period_size  : 1024
  period_time  : 21333
  tick_time: 0
  tstamp_mode  : NONE
  period_step  : 1
  sleep_min: 0
  avail_min: 1024
  xfer_align   : 1024
  start_threshold  : 16384
  stop_threshold   : 16384
  silence_threshold: 0
  silence_size : 0
  boundary : 1073741824
Slave: Direct Stream Mixing PCM
Its setup is:
  stream   : PLAYBACK
  access   : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
  format   : S16_LE
  subformat: STD
  channels : 2
  rate : 48000
  exact rate   : 48000 (48000/1)
  msbits   : 16
  buffer_size  : 16384
  period_size  : 1024
  period_time  : 21333
  tick_time: 0
  tstamp_mode  : NONE
  period_step  : 1
  sleep_min: 0
  avail_min: 1024
  xfer_align   : 1024
  start_threshold  : 16384
  stop_threshold   : 16384
  silence_threshold: 0
  silence_size : 0
  boundary : 1073741824
Hardware PCM card 0 'HDA ATI SB' device 1 subdevice 0
Its setup is:
  stream   : PLAYBACK
  access   : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
  format   : S16_LE
  subformat: STD
  channels : 2
  rate : 48000
  exact rate   : 48000 (48000/1)
  msbits   : 16
  buffer_size  : 16384
  period_size  : 1024
  period_time  : 21333
  tick_time: 1000
  tstamp_mode  : NONE
  period_step  : 1
  sleep_min: 0
  avail_min: 1024
  xfer_align   : 1024
  start_threshold  : 1
  stop_threshold   : 1073741824
  silence_threshold: 0
  silence_size : 1073741824
  boundary : 1073741824

  
Also run dmesg  
immediately after

the failure to see if it logged any messages.


No apparent messages from dmesg
  

3) When using system-config-soundcard, the sound works.
  

This indicates a configuration issue.  There would be no sound if alsa
hadn't recognized your card.



4) cat'ing a wav file to /dev/dsp works.
  

OSS emulation, using alsa, another indication that sound is almost working.



In searching for an answer, one comment was made about pulseaudio causing
problems so I removed it. Sound test 1 and 2 from above still fail and
test 3 and 4 still work.

I re-installed pulseaudio but it did not install as many rpms as the
remove process deleted.

Unfortunately, I know very little about troubleshooting audio problems,
so any help will be greatly appreciated.

I would have added configuration files but I do not know which ones would
be revelant.

Let me know what additional information needs to be supplied.

Thanks,

David
  

Can you run the shell script at
http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh
and post the link to the output back to the list.  It will scan your
system for sound
related information and post a summary to a web site.  It will give you
a link to the
information on th

Re: cronie crashing?

[Brian Tillman]

Consider using RHEL / CentOS for your Servers? F9 is bleeding edge,  
far from stable,  ect ect.



On May 24, 2008, at 3:13 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Is anyone else having cron crash occasionally, in F9? My servers  
run 24x7. Once or twice a week, crond disappears. This is happening  
on my i386 server and, after I upgraded my x86_64 server from F8 to  
F9 this morning, six hours later crond died on x86_64.


Time to put strace on crond, and wait…

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Re: New kernels do not work.

[slamp slamp]

On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  "Antti J. Huhtala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> pe, 2008-05-23 kello 05:47 +0300, Antti J. Huhtala kirjoitti:
>> > to, 2008-05-22 kello 19:15 -0400, slamp slamp kirjoitti:
>> > > Please help. PC stuck in grub> prompt.
>> > >
>> > The latest kernel update  2.6.25.3-18.fc9 - or one of the 199 files
>> > updated at the same time - rewrote grub.conf so that (in my case) the
>> > line which should have read:
>> >
>> > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.3-18.fc9.x86_64 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00
>> > rhgb quiet
>> >
>> > actually read:
>> >
>> > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.3-18.fc9.x86_64 ro
>> > root=UUID=ab562fb5-0a9a-4458-9f30-61c8a23f774a rhgb quiet
>> >
>> > Somehow my /dev/VolGroup... had been changed to UUID=...
>> >
>> > The same error had been applied to the previous kernel (2.6.25-14.fc9)
>> > so that neither would boot.
>> >
>> Bugzilla # 448132.
>
> I have the same problem except that correcting my grub.conf file did not 
> help. I'm still stuck with just GRUB showing on the screen. Also I did not 
> get any sounds.
>
> Any futher suggestions?
>
> Steve
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well my issue was either fedora or grub not being able work well with
"fakeraid". anything i tried nothing helped. i reinstalled grub to the
right fakeraid device and it did not help. so what i did was deleted
the "fakeraid" from intel bios and just did a software raid (mdadm).
this works better than dmraid and grub or fedora seems to properly use
the /dev/md* device. "fakeraid" sucks, too bad i did not catch this
when i bought my pc (powerspec e361).

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cronie crashing?

[Sam Varshavchik]

Is anyone else having cron crash occasionally, in F9? My servers run 24x7. 
Once or twice a week, crond disappears. This is happening on my i386 server 
and, after I upgraded my x86_64 server from F8 to F9 this morning, six hours 
later crond died on x86_64.


Time to put strace on crond, and wait…



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Re: Fedora 9 disk full problem

[Brian Tillman]

Try comparing the output of:

du -sh /var/log/httpd

and:

df -h /var/log/httpd

If the condition that Michael is talking about is occurring:

 "If you have deleted files that a process has open, they still take  
up space until that process is ended, but du won't see them. "


You'll see the space discrepancy when comparing the output of the two  
above mentioned commands. (df measures filesystem blocks, while du  
adds up space taken by files as listed in the inode table. Deleted  
files that were being used by a process will not show in the inode  
table, thus du won't include them. df will notice that the reserved  
filesystem blocks held open by the process.)


Try restarting httpd, if that doesn't help, use fuser to determine  
what process may still be reserving filesystem blocks.


Brian




On May 24, 2008, at 2:45 PM, M A Young wrote:


On Sat, 24 May 2008, f f wrote:

du said I have ~30gb in /var/log/httpd. now that was could have  
been some log file... the problem is that i only installed the  
system yesterday and just started apache for like 2-3 hours. anyway


It sounds like you have some apache configuration fault that is  
resulting in out of control logging. I suggest you examine the logs  
and work out what the root cause is.



all ok for 1-2 hours, now again disk full, but du says its ok


du adds up the sizes of the files it can see. If you have deleted  
files that a process has open, they still take up space until that  
process is ended, but du won't see them. Probably it is also worth  
forcing an fsck of the file system, just to be on the safe side in  
case the problem is due to disk corruption (though this is probably  
unlikely).


Michael Young

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FC9: Freeze while booting of new installed system

[Thomas Spura]

Hi.
I wanted to install fc9 and anything was fine, till it was booting till
udev wants to start, but nothing is happening at all.

I have a Samsung q45 with a ricoh mmc controler, and i guess something
is wrong with this, because with the 2.6.25 kernel, i had problems with
debian too. But it's strange, that the networkinstallation cd from fc
works and is booting but the installed system not...

Has anyone an idea what to do?

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Re: Testing sound from kcontrol fails (no sound) with no apparent errors.

[dcw]

On Saturday 24 May 2008 4:41 pm, stan wrote:
> dcw wrote:
> > I posted this on the KDE mailing list and they reccommended that I
> > re-post on this list.
> >
> > Current setup:
> > Motherboard: M2A-VM has a connector for either ac97 or hd sound. I am
> > using ac97
> > Sound output: line output from computer to tv.
> > OS: Fedora 8 with all updates
> >
> > Tested for sound with the following:
> > 1) When using kcontrol to test sound, it fails with no apparent errors.
> > 2) When using aplay to test sound, it fails with no apparent errors.
>
> You could try running with the -v option, 
> verbose.  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#aplay -v 
/mnt/sda2/usr/share/apps/korganizer/sounds/spinout.wav
Playing WAVE '/mnt/sda2/usr/share/apps/korganizer/sounds/spinout.wav' : 
Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 5512 Hz, Mono
Plug PCM: Rate conversion PCM (48000, sformat=U8)
Its setup is:
  stream   : PLAYBACK
  access   : RW_INTERLEAVED
  format   : U8
  subformat: STD
  channels : 1
  rate : 5512
  exact rate   : 5512 (5512/1)
  msbits   : 8
  buffer_size  : 1881
  period_size  : 117
  period_time  : 21333
  tick_time: 0
  tstamp_mode  : NONE
  period_step  : 1
  sleep_min: 0
  avail_min: 117
  xfer_align   : 117
  start_threshold  : 1872
  stop_threshold   : 1881
  silence_threshold: 0
  silence_size : 0
  boundary : 123273216
Slave: Route conversion PCM (sformat=S16_LE)
  Transformation table:
0 <- 0
1 <- 0
Its setup is:
  stream   : PLAYBACK
  access   : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
  format   : U8
  subformat: STD
  channels : 1
  rate : 48000
  exact rate   : 48000 (48000/1)
  msbits   : 8
  buffer_size  : 16384
  period_size  : 1024
  period_time  : 21333
  tick_time: 0
  tstamp_mode  : NONE
  period_step  : 1
  sleep_min: 0
  avail_min: 1024
  xfer_align   : 1024
  start_threshold  : 16384
  stop_threshold   : 16384
  silence_threshold: 0
  silence_size : 0
  boundary : 1073741824
Slave: Soft volume PCM
Control: PCM Playback Volume
min_dB: -51
max_dB: 0
resolution: 256
Its setup is:
  stream   : PLAYBACK
  access   : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
  format   : S16_LE
  subformat: STD
  channels : 2
  rate : 48000
  exact rate   : 48000 (48000/1)
  msbits   : 16
  buffer_size  : 16384
  period_size  : 1024
  period_time  : 21333
  tick_time: 0
  tstamp_mode  : NONE
  period_step  : 1
  sleep_min: 0
  avail_min: 1024
  xfer_align   : 1024
  start_threshold  : 16384
  stop_threshold   : 16384
  silence_threshold: 0
  silence_size : 0
  boundary : 1073741824
Slave: Direct Stream Mixing PCM
Its setup is:
  stream   : PLAYBACK
  access   : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
  format   : S16_LE
  subformat: STD
  channels : 2
  rate : 48000
  exact rate   : 48000 (48000/1)
  msbits   : 16
  buffer_size  : 16384
  period_size  : 1024
  period_time  : 21333
  tick_time: 0
  tstamp_mode  : NONE
  period_step  : 1
  sleep_min: 0
  avail_min: 1024
  xfer_align   : 1024
  start_threshold  : 16384
  stop_threshold   : 16384
  silence_threshold: 0
  silence_size : 0
  boundary : 1073741824
Hardware PCM card 0 'HDA ATI SB' device 1 subdevice 0
Its setup is:
  stream   : PLAYBACK
  access   : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
  format   : S16_LE
  subformat: STD
  channels : 2
  rate : 48000
  exact rate   : 48000 (48000/1)
  msbits   : 16
  buffer_size  : 16384
  period_size  : 1024
  period_time  : 21333
  tick_time: 1000
  tstamp_mode  : NONE
  period_step  : 1
  sleep_min: 0
  avail_min: 1024
  xfer_align   : 1024
  start_threshold  : 1
  stop_threshold   : 1073741824
  silence_threshold: 0
  silence_size : 1073741824
  boundary : 1073741824

> Also run dmesg  
> immediately after
> the failure to see if it logged any messages.
No apparent messages from dmesg
>
> > 3) When using system-config-soundcard, the sound works.
>
> This indicates a configuration issue.  There would be no sound if alsa
> hadn't recognized your card.
>
> > 4) cat'ing a wav file to /dev/dsp works.
>
> OSS emulation, using alsa, another indication that sound is almost working.
>
> > In searching for an answer, one comment was made about pulseaudio causing
> > problems so I removed it. Sound test 1 and 2 from above still fail and
> > test 3 and 4 still work.
> >
> > I re-installed pulseaudio but it did not install as many rpms as the
> > remove process deleted.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I know very little about troubleshooting audio problems,
> > so any help will be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > I would have added configuration files but I do not know which ones would
> > be revelant.
> >
> > Let me know what additional information needs to be supplied.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > David
>
> Can you run the shell script at
> http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh
> and post the link to the output back to the list.  It will scan your
> system for sound
> related information and post a

Re: Fedora 9 disk full problem

[M A Young]

On Sat, 24 May 2008, f f wrote:

du said I have ~30gb in /var/log/httpd. now that was could have been 
some log file... the problem is that i only installed the system 
yesterday and just started apache for like 2-3 hours. anyway


It sounds like you have some apache configuration fault that is resulting 
in out of control logging. I suggest you examine the logs and work out 
what the root cause is.



all ok for 1-2 hours, now again disk full, but du says its ok


du adds up the sizes of the files it can see. If you have deleted files 
that a process has open, they still take up space until that process is 
ended, but du won't see them. Probably it is also worth forcing an fsck of 
the file system, just to be on the safe side in case the problem is due to 
disk corruption (though this is probably unlikely).


Michael Young

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Re: Testing sound from kcontrol fails (no sound) with no apparent errors.

[stan]

dcw wrote:
I posted this on the KDE mailing list and they reccommended that I re-post on 
this list.


Current setup:
Motherboard: M2A-VM has a connector for either ac97 or hd sound. I am using 
ac97

Sound output: line output from computer to tv.
OS: Fedora 8 with all updates

Tested for sound with the following:
1) When using kcontrol to test sound, it fails with no apparent errors.
2) When using aplay to test sound, it fails with no apparent errors.
  
You could try running with the -v option, verbose.  Also run dmesg 
immediately after

the failure to see if it logged any messages.

3) When using system-config-soundcard, the sound works.
  
This indicates a configuration issue.  There would be no sound if alsa 
hadn't recognized your card.

4) cat'ing a wav file to /dev/dsp works.
  

OSS emulation, using alsa, another indication that sound is almost working.
In searching for an answer, one comment was made about pulseaudio causing 
problems so I removed it. Sound test 1 and 2 from above still fail and test 3 
and 4 still work.


I re-installed pulseaudio but it did not install as many rpms as the remove 
process deleted.


Unfortunately, I know very little about troubleshooting audio problems, so any 
help will be greatly appreciated.


I would have added configuration files but I do not know which ones would be 
revelant.


Let me know what additional information needs to be supplied.

Thanks,

David

  
Can you run the shell script at 
http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh
and post the link to the output back to the list.  It will scan your 
system for sound
related information and post a summary to a web site.  It will give you 
a link to the

information on that web site.

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OT: (D)DoS attack mitigation

[Temlakos]

Anyone have a line on things that a root-accessed server admin can do to 
stop a (D)DoS attack?


Temlakos

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Re: 82801H (ICH8 Family) NO sound

[Justin Conover]

On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 4:27 PM, stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Justin Conover wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:52 AM, stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>
>>Justin Conover wrote:
>>
>>
>>I've got nothing,  I've tried latest stable alsa-driver/lib,
>>snapshot and git tree.
>>
>>Here is some advice to someone who has the same problem as you,
>>but has an ICH7 hda-intel.  It is from the alsa-devel list and is
>>an extract of the full message.
>>...
>>If not, try "acpi=off".  Lastly, you can try downloading a daily
>>snapshot from
>>ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/alsa/snapshot/driver/ and building
>>it with "./configure --with-cards=hda-intel --with-debug=detect".
>> Once you build and install it, type "lsmod|fgrep snd|awk '{print
>>$1}'|xargs rmmod" to remove all sound modules, type "dmesg -c" to
>>clear the dmesg log, then "modprobe snd_hda_intel" to load the new
>>modules.  If you still don't get audio, type dmesg to see the
>>latest output and email that info here.
>>
>>Tobin
>>...
>>
>>Instead of the install above you can use "make install-modules" to
>>install only your module.  Then reboot.  If that is easier.  The
>>debug message should indicate the problem if sound doesn't work.
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>> # lsmod|fgrep snd|awk '{print $1}'|xargs rmmod
>> ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use
>> ERROR: Module snd_mixer_oss is in use
>> ERROR: Module snd_pcm is in use by snd_hda_intel
>> ERROR: Module snd_timer is in use by snd_pcm
>> ERROR: Module snd_page_alloc is in use by snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
>> ERROR: Module snd_hwdep is in use by snd_hda_intel
>> ERROR: Module snd is in use by
>> snd_hda_intel,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep
>> ERROR: Module soundcore is in use by snd
>>
>>
>>
>> 2.6.23 default kernel on F8 works fine, thats it ;)
>>
> That's why I suggested that you might want to install and then reboot.  The
> new module will be loaded as part of the startup process and you won't have
> to chase down what is using sound and stop it before you can remove the
> existing module.
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Oh, i did reboot I was just doing that after I cleared dmesg to see if there
was anything good.
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Re: KDE4 and re-using kde3.5 user areas

[Rex Dieter]

Mike wrote:

> Although I am currently running KDE4.04 on F9 in which I allowed the user
> area to be created from scratch during install (or using useradd) after
> the install, I have a question as part of advance planning for when I
> upgrade other systems which have pre-existing user areas in F8.
...
> Any advice appreciated for the transition of vital systems from F8 to F9
> where KDE is involved.

This configuration is supported, but certainly could do with much more
testing to find gotchas and bugs.

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Testing sound from kcontrol fails (no sound) with no apparent errors.

[dcw]

I posted this on the KDE mailing list and they reccommended that I re-post on 
this list.

Current setup:
Motherboard: M2A-VM has a connector for either ac97 or hd sound. I am using 
ac97
Sound output: line output from computer to tv.
OS: Fedora 8 with all updates

Tested for sound with the following:
1) When using kcontrol to test sound, it fails with no apparent errors.
2) When using aplay to test sound, it fails with no apparent errors.
3) When using system-config-soundcard, the sound works.
4) cat'ing a wav file to /dev/dsp works.

In searching for an answer, one comment was made about pulseaudio causing 
problems so I removed it. Sound test 1 and 2 from above still fail and test 3 
and 4 still work.

I re-installed pulseaudio but it did not install as many rpms as the remove 
process deleted.

Unfortunately, I know very little about troubleshooting audio problems, so any 
help will be greatly appreciated.

I would have added configuration files but I do not know which ones would be 
revelant.

Let me know what additional information needs to be supplied.

Thanks,

David

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Re: 82801H (ICH8 Family) NO sound

[stan]

Justin Conover wrote:



On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:52 AM, stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Justin Conover wrote:


I've got nothing,  I've tried latest stable alsa-driver/lib,
snapshot and git tree.

Here is some advice to someone who has the same problem as you,
but has an ICH7 hda-intel.  It is from the alsa-devel list and is
an extract of the full message.
...
If not, try "acpi=off".  Lastly, you can try downloading a daily
snapshot from
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/alsa/snapshot/driver/ and building
it with "./configure --with-cards=hda-intel --with-debug=detect".
 Once you build and install it, type "lsmod|fgrep snd|awk '{print
$1}'|xargs rmmod" to remove all sound modules, type "dmesg -c" to
clear the dmesg log, then "modprobe snd_hda_intel" to load the new
modules.  If you still don't get audio, type dmesg to see the
latest output and email that info here.

Tobin
...

Instead of the install above you can use "make install-modules" to
install only your module.  Then reboot.  If that is easier.  The
debug message should indicate the problem if sound doesn't work.

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# lsmod|fgrep snd|awk '{print $1}'|xargs rmmod
ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use
ERROR: Module snd_mixer_oss is in use
ERROR: Module snd_pcm is in use by snd_hda_intel
ERROR: Module snd_timer is in use by snd_pcm
ERROR: Module snd_page_alloc is in use by snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
ERROR: Module snd_hwdep is in use by snd_hda_intel
ERROR: Module snd is in use by 
snd_hda_intel,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep

ERROR: Module soundcore is in use by snd



2.6.23 default kernel on F8 works fine, thats it ;)
That's why I suggested that you might want to install and then reboot.  
The new module will be loaded as part of the startup process and you 
won't have to chase down what is using sound and stop it before you can 
remove the existing module.


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Re: 82801H (ICH8 Family) NO sound

[Justin Conover]

On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Justin Conover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:52 AM, stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Justin Conover wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've got nothing,  I've tried latest stable alsa-driver/lib, snapshot and
>>> git tree.
>>>
>>>  Here is some advice to someone who has the same problem as you, but has
>> an ICH7 hda-intel.  It is from the alsa-devel list and is an extract of the
>> full message.
>> ...
>> If not, try "acpi=off".  Lastly, you can try downloading a daily snapshot
>> from ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/alsa/snapshot/driver/ and building
>> it with "./configure --with-cards=hda-intel --with-debug=detect".  Once you
>> build and install it, type "lsmod|fgrep snd|awk '{print $1}'|xargs rmmod" to
>> remove all sound modules, type "dmesg -c" to clear the dmesg log, then
>> "modprobe snd_hda_intel" to load the new modules.  If you still don't get
>> audio, type dmesg to see the latest output and email that info here.
>>
>> Tobin
>> ...
>>
>> Instead of the install above you can use "make install-modules" to install
>> only your module.  Then reboot.  If that is easier.  The debug message
>> should indicate the problem if sound doesn't work.
>>
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>
>
> # lsmod|fgrep snd|awk '{print $1}'|xargs rmmod
> ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use
> ERROR: Module snd_mixer_oss is in use
> ERROR: Module snd_pcm is in use by snd_hda_intel
> ERROR: Module snd_timer is in use by snd_pcm
> ERROR: Module snd_page_alloc is in use by snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
> ERROR: Module snd_hwdep is in use by snd_hda_intel
> ERROR: Module snd is in use by
> snd_hda_intel,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep
> ERROR: Module soundcore is in use by snd
>
>
>
> 2.6.23 default kernel on F8 works fine, thats it ;)
>

http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy-lum.git;a=commitdiff;h=324fb7ac90178563754128b1199754a7f85c5345

This might be a possible fix.  Found it off of

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/174696
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Re: [F8] Installing Lame

[Todd Zullinger]

Paulo Cavalcanti wrote:
> Yes, I do.
> 
> The other option is using lame from ATrpms:
> 
> http://atrpms.net/dist/f8/lame/

And this is the only sane suggestion.  rpm -e --nodeps is bad advice.

Daniel, the point is that Livna and ATrpms are not compatible.  Use
one or the other.  Trying to mix them will only cause you grief (and
unless you're willing to deal with it on your own, it's not
recommended).

But, as Paulo points out, ATrpms does provide lame and there should be
no problem using that.  If you have enabled livna and installed some
packages from there, you may need to remove those and install similar
packages from ATrpms.

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Re: 82801H (ICH8 Family) NO sound

[Justin Conover]

On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 8:52 AM, stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Justin Conover wrote:
>
>>
>> I've got nothing,  I've tried latest stable alsa-driver/lib, snapshot and
>> git tree.
>>
>>  Here is some advice to someone who has the same problem as you, but has
> an ICH7 hda-intel.  It is from the alsa-devel list and is an extract of the
> full message.
> ...
> If not, try "acpi=off".  Lastly, you can try downloading a daily snapshot
> from ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/alsa/snapshot/driver/ and building it
> with "./configure --with-cards=hda-intel --with-debug=detect".  Once you
> build and install it, type "lsmod|fgrep snd|awk '{print $1}'|xargs rmmod" to
> remove all sound modules, type "dmesg -c" to clear the dmesg log, then
> "modprobe snd_hda_intel" to load the new modules.  If you still don't get
> audio, type dmesg to see the latest output and email that info here.
>
> Tobin
> ...
>
> Instead of the install above you can use "make install-modules" to install
> only your module.  Then reboot.  If that is easier.  The debug message
> should indicate the problem if sound doesn't work.
>
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# lsmod|fgrep snd|awk '{print $1}'|xargs rmmod
ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use
ERROR: Module snd_mixer_oss is in use
ERROR: Module snd_pcm is in use by snd_hda_intel
ERROR: Module snd_timer is in use by snd_pcm
ERROR: Module snd_page_alloc is in use by snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
ERROR: Module snd_hwdep is in use by snd_hda_intel
ERROR: Module snd is in use by
snd_hda_intel,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep
ERROR: Module soundcore is in use by snd



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Re: Fedora 9 disk full problem

[stan]

f f wrote:

It happened today, I was writing some code from Gnome and suddenly I couldn't 
save.
I installed Fedora on a ide 40gb hdd so it couldn't be full...
du said I have ~30gb in /var/log/httpd. now that was could have been some log 
file... the problem is that i only installed the system yesterday and just 
started apache for like 2-3 hours. anyway
i deleted the logs and rebooted

all ok for 1-2 hours, now again disk full, but du says its ok

any ideeas?

  

Several.

Use df instead of du.  That will tell you how much free space on all 
mounted partitions.


Install iotop and leave it running in a window.  Run top in another 
window.  See which process is doing all the writing.  This probably only 
works after you have cleaned up and restart.


Run dmesg to see if there are any messages in the logs complaining about 
this.


If that doesn't pinpoint it, you'll probably have to provide more 
information.


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Re: BUG in Anaconda, it seems -- seen again

[Beartooth Sciurivore]

On Wed, 21 May 2008 13:42:57 +, I Beartooth wrote:

[...]
>   It went happily on for hours, and was apparently installing
> Tomboy (God knows why; I don't use it, and thought I had pirutted it
> away long ago) -- when it hit an unhandled exception, "probably a bug."
[...]
> 
>   It had defaulted to remote, wanting, port, address, user name,
> password, and folder name.

It has just done that again, on my newest, biggest, fastest 
machine -- except that this time it didn't ask for a port. See my thread 
entitled Weirdness with Fedora/XP upgrade, especially the update today.
 
[...]

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Re: KDE 4.0.4: No screensaver unless

[Mike]

Rex Dieter  math.unl.edu> writes:

> kdeartwork and kdeartwork-extras contain most of the kde screensavers.  Are
> either of these installed on your system?

Thanks Rex - in fact kdeartwork was installed, but kdeartwork-extras was not.
After installing the latter a whole raft of screensavers now are available
in the system-settings area. I was surprised this was not installed by default
during F9 install but anyway I can now play with it... 




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RE: repository for thunderbird [solved]

[Craig White]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 11:47 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> g wrote:
> > > change to thunderbird.
> > 
> > > would appreciate a link.
> > 
> > finaly. perserveriance pays off.
> > 
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/thunderbird
> 
> My only gripe with Thunderbird is that it does not
> seem to work with my Exchange 2000 Email server. I
> don't think it is the problem with Exchange but if
> I am mistaken, I would love to hear about it.
> 
> I could not understand why Thunderbird is not able
> obtain all of my folders/subfolders.  There is this
> thing called "Subscribe" but it seems that it is
> limited to "Inbox", "Trash" and "Junk".  I have
> hundreds of folders under my inbox as well as
> other things, and IMAP clients DO find them, so
> what is the deal with Thunderbird?  Is there an
> option somewhere that I am missing?

If Exchange Server is set to provide IMAP service, you shouldn't have
any trouble with thunderbird at all...provided you set it up as IMAP. 

Exchange Server is a reasonably compliant IMAP server and Thunderbird is
a reasonably well behaved IMAP client (I don't like that it by default,
will 'move' deleted messages instead of just flagging them but it is a
configurable option).

Thunderbird does indeed offer all the subfolders of an IMAP server but
first you have to check the account settings (Tools menu), go to 'server
settings' for your IMAP account, click the 'advanced' button and uncheck
the box 'show only subscribed folders'. You may wish to ultimately check
this box but know that it is there.

To subscribe to folders, 'right click' on your IMAP 'Inbox' and choose
'subscribe' and click the 'plus' sign alongside your INBOX or any other
folders to reveal 'sub-folders' - highlight any 'unchecked' box and
click 'subscribe' to subscribe to that folder.

Craig

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Re: Weirdness with Fedora/XP upgrade -- update

[Beartooth Sciurivore]

On Fri, 23 May 2008 20:01:59 +, Beartooth Sciurivore wrote:

[] 
>   So I put in the DVD from which I had successfully gotten F9 onto
> three machines, and told XP to reboot.
> 
>   It has done the same thing -- gone through the first few steps,
> only to sit there with a blank white screen.
> 
>   The monitor is new, a HP w2207h 1680x1050; but the other two PCs
> manage with it, both behind a KVM switch and directly connected. And the
> dual-boot machine is much the newest!
> 
>   What could be doing this, and how do I fix it??

I tried again, with the known good DVD and the known good 
external USB DVD-drive. It did it again, and I let it go all night. Next 
morning (today), still bare white screen.

I rebooted, and established that it still did boot fine into F8 
as well as XP.

I tried it yet another time, using text mode. All went smoothly, 
up to the point of installing Tomboy -- which it shouldn't install in an 
upgrade, since that isn't in my F8.

That hung for a very long time. Finally it gave me the Anaconda 
Bug, which I reported in another thread.

I tried to send the dump to another machine on my LAN; that 
failed. I tried everything I could think of to get it to honor the choice 
it pretended to offer -- store to disk. It wouldn't even let me tell it 
to try.

I told it debug. It printed a lot of lines fast -- ending with :

IOError: [Errno 5] Input/output error

Then two or three blank lines. Then : 

Entering debugger...
> /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py(1217)_do_grab()
-> new_fo_close()
(Pdb)

And there it sits.

How can I tell anaconda *NOT* to try to install Tomboy?

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KDE4 and re-using kde3.5 user areas

[Mike]

Although I am currently running KDE4.04 on F9 in which I allowed the user
area to be created from scratch during install (or using useradd) after
the install, I have a question as part of advance planning for when I 
upgrade other systems which have pre-existing user areas in F8.

Does anyone have any experience in installing F9, and then copying back
pre-existing user directories from their original F8 files.

What I mean by this is that the F9 install is done without creating
any users apart from root.  Then the appropriate user lines are added
back into passwd, group, shadow and gshadow in /etc and then the 
pre-existing files from /home/user1 /home/user2 and so on are copied
back into /home from backup.  If this is done and then one of these users
logs in to KDE4.x using only pre-existing files that were from KDE3.5
in the earlier system, then 
a) will the user be able to successfully login to KDE4.0x?
b) if the user can login will there be any nasty consequences from
the fact that the kde config files relate to the previous 3.5 files?
c) If there are nasty consequences then which files should be changed
or deleted before the user logs in?
d) If it is mostly OK but there are a few minor watchpoints then what
little things may bite, and how do you fix them?

In addition are there any trick needed for getting ssh-add to run in F9?
I tried adding a file into .kde/Autostart/ which executed /usr/bin/ssh-add
but it did not seem to execute when during kde4 login

Finally although for me this is hypothetical, has anyone actually 
done any of this successfully?

It is possible of course to do:
mv /home/user1 /home/user1.old
remove the user1 lines from passwd, group, shadow and gshadow
and then do
useradd user1 -c "Real Name"

then rsync -av /home/user1.prev/directory_to-restore /home/user1/
for all the directories you wish to get back, but leaving any .kde related
directories alone 

But this is tedious - hence my original question.

Any advice appreciated for the transition of vital systems from F8 to F9
where KDE is involved.

Thanks.

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Re: repository for thunderbird [solved]

[Craig White]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 20:00 +, g wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 19:26 +, g wrote:
> > On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 19:09 +, g wrote:
> > > i guess i got too excited. above is wrong. going back to check again.
> > 
> > further reading linked to;
> > 
> > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=47833
> 
> ok. now i am having problems with download. sits at 'starting', but
> never loads.
> 
> i am stopping for now, will try later.

dude...

yum install thunderbird

why is that so hard?

Craig

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Fedora 9 disk full problem

[f f]

It happened today, I was writing some code from Gnome and suddenly I couldn't 
save.
I installed Fedora on a ide 40gb hdd so it couldn't be full...
du said I have ~30gb in /var/log/httpd. now that was could have been some log 
file... the problem is that i only installed the system yesterday and just 
started apache for like 2-3 hours. anyway
i deleted the logs and rebooted

all ok for 1-2 hours, now again disk full, but du says its ok

any ideeas?


  

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Re: [F8] Installing Lame

[Paulo Cavalcanti]

On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 16:13 -0300, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote:
>
> >
> > You really like livna, don't you?
> >
> >  Just do, as root:
> >
> >  rpm -e --nodeps libmp3lame0
> >
> > Then, you will be able to install lame from livna using yum.
>
> Do you actually *know* that this will not cause dependancy problems in
> the future?
>
>
Yes, I do.

The other option is using lame from ATrpms:

 http://atrpms.net/dist/f8/lame/

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Re: F9: NetworkManager WEP for ATT 2701HG-B 2Wire router??

[Aaron Konstam]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 17:45 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> sean darcy wrote:
> 
> > Using ATT dsl, with their 2Wire 2701HG-B router. The bottom of the
> > router shows a 10-digit number, described in the manual as a WEP "64-bit
> > Hex value"
> > 
> > The drop down box in the NM "Wireless Network Secrets Required" dialog
> > only provides for hex in "WEP 40/128", and putting in the 10-digit Hex
> > doesn't work.
> > 
> > Anybody got this to work?
> 
> I use a 10-digit hex WEP code with NM, and it works fine.
> It didn't use to, but it suddenly started working a few weeks ago.
> I assumed it was some Fedora update, but never checked -
> I was just grateful to find it working!
> 
> I'm using an Orinoco Gold PCMCIA card on my ThinkPad T23
Generally the nm-applet allows for three formats of passwd. Pass phrase,
hex code and ASCII string.

The AT&T DSL standard is a 10 digit hex code, but this can be changed in
the web interface to the router at 192.168.1.254


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Re: repository for thunderbird [solved]

[g]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 19:26 +, g wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 19:09 +, g wrote:
> > i guess i got too excited. above is wrong. going back to check again.
> 
> further reading linked to;
> 
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=47833

ok. now i am having problems with download. sits at 'starting', but
never loads.

i am stopping for now, will try later.



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Re: New kernels do not work.

[Steve]

 "Antti J. Huhtala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> pe, 2008-05-23 kello 05:47 +0300, Antti J. Huhtala kirjoitti:
> > to, 2008-05-22 kello 19:15 -0400, slamp slamp kirjoitti:
> > > Please help. PC stuck in grub> prompt.
> > > 
> > The latest kernel update  2.6.25.3-18.fc9 - or one of the 199 files
> > updated at the same time - rewrote grub.conf so that (in my case) the
> > line which should have read:
> > 
> > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.3-18.fc9.x86_64 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00
> > rhgb quiet
> > 
> > actually read:
> > 
> > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.3-18.fc9.x86_64 ro
> > root=UUID=ab562fb5-0a9a-4458-9f30-61c8a23f774a rhgb quiet
> > 
> > Somehow my /dev/VolGroup... had been changed to UUID=...
> > 
> > The same error had been applied to the previous kernel (2.6.25-14.fc9)
> > so that neither would boot.
> > 
> Bugzilla # 448132.

I have the same problem except that correcting my grub.conf file did not help. 
I'm still stuck with just GRUB showing on the screen. Also I did not get any 
sounds.

Any futher suggestions?

Steve

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Re: [F8] Installing Lame

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 16:13 -0300, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote:

> 
> You really like livna, don't you?
> 
>  Just do, as root:
> 
>  rpm -e --nodeps libmp3lame0
> 
> Then, you will be able to install lame from livna using yum.

Do you actually *know* that this will not cause dependancy problems in
the future?

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Re: repository for thunderbird [solved]

[g]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 19:09 +, g wrote:
> i guess i got too excited. above is wrong. going back to check again.

further reading linked to;

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=47833


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Re: repository for thunderbird [solved]

[Daniel B. Thurman]

g wrote:


On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 11:51 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> Ah, I shoulda -kept my mouth shut- and tried harder!

so what did you do?


The configuration I have is too darn long to write it all up here, but
my specific issue what that I was getting a LIMITED subscription list.

Referring to: Edit->Account Settings...->Server Settings->Advanced...
(You have to expand the dialog box - it can be hidden to the right-middle.)

I think I got into trouble when I read somewhere how to define the IMAP
server directory and some (idiot) mentioned to put the GAL definition for
the Exchange server in the "IMAP server directory field".  Oh, that'll do it
- it will only allow what I said before: "Inbox", "Junk", and "Trash".

My problem went away, then I cleared out the above field, then unchecked
"Show only subscribed folders", checked "Server supports folders that 
contain

sub-folders and messages" and checked "Use IDLE command if the server
supports it". Next, I clicked OK and saved the configuration.

Next, you need to right-click on the account name item in the 
left-window-pane,
and select: Subscribe...".  Then decide for yourself what 
folders/sub-folders want

to see in your left-pane list for that account.

Of course, if you are using exchange as your IMAP server, some of the
applications like Calendar, Journal, Notes (etc.) are not supported by
Thunderbird, but that is ok by me.

I am now happy as a clam!

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Re: [F8] Installing Lame

[Paulo Cavalcanti]

2008/5/24 Daniel B. Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
> On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 10:40 -0700, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 10:27 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> > Transaction Check Error:
> >   file /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0.0.0 from install of
> > lame-libs-3.97-6.lvn8.i386 conflicts with file from package
> > libmp3lame0-3.97-16.fc8.i386
> >
> > Error Summary
> > -
> >
> > So what can I do to get lame installed?
>
> Short answer: resolve the conflict. Longer answer: find out which
> package libmp3lame0-3.97-16.fc8.i386 belongs to (rpm -qf
> libmp3lame0-3.97-16.fc8.i386) and remove it (yum erase ).
>
> Of course, that may cause yum to want to remove other stuff. You'll have
> to decide whether you really want the Livna package that much.
>
>
> Unfortunately, this is what I would lose by removing
> libmp3lame0-3.97-16.fc8.i386
> all of this so that I can play music with many of the codecs. Dang, why is
> it so
> hard to install LAME?  What is it about not synchronizing efforts so that
> lame
> here and lame there are not even compatible?  I need lame so that I can
> simply
> convert wma to mp3.  Geez.
>
>
> =
> Package Arch   Version  RepositorySize
>
> =
> Removing:
> libmp3lame0 i386   3.97-16.fc8  installed 273 k
> Removing for dependencies:
> akode-extrasi386   2.0.2-1.lvn8.1   installed  29 k
> avidemuxi386   2.4.1-2.lvn8 installed 8.4 M
> avidemux-gtki386   2.4.1-2.lvn8 installed 7.7 M
> avidemux-qt i386   2.4.1-2.lvn8 installed 7.5 M
> devede  noarch 3.7-1.lvn8   installed 2.3 M
> dvdstyler   i386   1:1.5.1-2.lvn8   installed 2.9 M
> famei386   0.9.0-7.lvn6 installed  78 k
> ffmpeg  i386   0.4.9-0.41.20071011.lvn8
> installed 560 k
> ffmpeg-libs i386   0.4.9-0.41.20071011.lvn8
> installed 4.2 M
> ffmpeg2theora   i386   0.19-1.lvn8  installed  63 k
> gstreamer-ffmpegi386   0.10.3-5.lvn8installed 334 k
> gstreamer-plugins-bad   i386   0.10.5-14.lvn8   installed 1.3 M
> gstreamer-plugins-bad-extras  i386   0.10.5-14.lvn8
> installed  83 k
> gstreamer-plugins-ugly  i386   0.10.6-5.lvn8installed 574 k
> k3b-extras-nonfree  i386   1.0.3-1.lvn8 installed 180 k
> k9copy  i386   1.2.2-1.lvn8 installed 2.7 M
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> 1.7 M
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> libquicktimei386   1.0.1-1.lvn8 installed 932 k
> libquicktime-utils  i386   1.0.1-1.lvn8 installed 121 k
> mencoderi386   1.0-0.90.rc2.lvn8  installed 6.6
> M
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> 1.2 M
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> 66 k
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> 573 k
> mozilla-vlc i386   0.8.6g-2.lvn8installed 102 k
> swfdec  i386   0.5.3-1.lvn8 installed 681 k
> swfdec-gtk  i386   0.5.3-1.lvn8 installed  61 k
> swfdec-mozilla  i386   0.5.3-1.lvn8 installed  70 k
> transcode   i386   1.0.4-5.lvn8 installed 5.7 M
> vdr-burni386   0.1.0-0.8.pre21.lvn8.2
> installed 866 k
> vdr-dxr3i386   0.2.7-2.lvn8 installed 219 k
> vdr-mp3 i386   0.10.1-1.lvn8installed 399 k
> vdrsync noarch 0.1.3-7.PRE1.050322.lvn8
> installed 489 k
> vlc i386   0.8.6g-2.lvn8installed  10 M
> vlc-corei386   0.8.6g-2.lvn8installed 9.8 M
> xine-lib-extras-nonfree  i386   1.1.12-1.lvn8installed 1.2
> M
> xvidcap i386   1.1.6-1.lvn8 installed 6.5 M
> y4mscaler   i386   9.0-5.lvn8   installed 159 k
>
> Transaction Summary
>
> =
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> Update   0 Package(s)
> Remove  39 Package(s)
>
> Is this ok [y/N]: n
>
>
>
You really like livna, don't you?

 Just do, as root:

 rpm -e --nodeps libmp3lame0

Then, you will be able to install lame from livna using yum.


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Re: repository for thunderbird [solved]

[g]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 18:45 +, g wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 18:27 +, g wrote:
> > On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 18:06 +, g wrote:
> > 
> > > change to thunderbird.
> > 
> > > would appreciate a link.
> > 
> > finaly. perserveriance pays off.
> > 
> > 
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/thunderbird
> 
> actually that just gets you started.
> 
> 
> true  perserveriance gets results. ;o)
> 
> this is rpm url;
> 
> http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/rpms/thunderbird/F-8/

i guess i got too excited. above is wrong. going back to check again.

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Re: repository for thunderbird [solved]

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On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 19:57 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> But for the sake of those reading the archives you should tell all :-)

hi, anne. i agree with you.

never too old to learn new tricks.


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RE: repository for thunderbird [solved]

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On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 11:51 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> Ah, I shoulda -kept my mouth shut- and tried harder!

so what did you do?

> I figured it all out and got Thunderbird to work!
> AWESOME!

as in?

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RE: repository for thunderbird [solved]

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On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 11:47 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> My only gripe with Thunderbird is that it does not
> seem to work with my Exchange 2000 Email server. I
> don't think it is the problem with Exchange but if
> I am mistaken, I would love to hear about it.

get rid of exchange 2000.


> I could not understand why Thunderbird is not able
> obtain all of my folders/sub-folders.

sub folders, preexisting, should get built when tbird opens. that is, if
you create a folder and add a file with same name and .msf extension.

i have been recreating mailboxes and sub-folders with tbird from day 1
that it came out. a little easier than when i used netscape.

>   There is this
> thing called "Subscribe" but it seems that it is
> limited to "Inbox", "Trash" and "Junk".  I have
> hundreds of folders under my inbox as well as

do not put sub-folders under 'inbox' or any other active box.

create a path name, then build under it.

>  Is there an
> option somewhere that I am missing?

just may be. try as above, then post back.


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Re: repository for thunderbird [solved]

[Anne Wilson]

On Saturday 24 May 2008 19:51:26 Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> > g wrote:
> > > > change to thunderbird.
> > > >
> > > > would appreciate a link.
> > >
> > > finaly. perserveriance pays off.
> > >
> > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/thunderbird
> >
> > My only gripe with Thunderbird is that it does not
> > seem to work with my Exchange 2000 Email server. I
> > don't think it is the problem with Exchange but if
> > I am mistaken, I would love to hear about it.
> >
> > I could not understand why Thunderbird is not able
> > obtain all of my folders/subfolders.  There is this
> > thing called "Subscribe" but it seems that it is
> > limited to "Inbox", "Trash" and "Junk".  I have
> > hundreds of folders under my inbox as well as
> > other things, and IMAP clients DO find them, so
> > what is the deal with Thunderbird?  Is there an
> > option somewhere that I am missing?
> >
> > Anyone, please?
> >
> > Thanks-
> > Dan
>
> Ah, I shoulda -kept my mouth shut- and tried harder!
>
> I figured it all out and got Thunderbird to work!
> AWESOME!
>
But for the sake of those reading the archives you should tell all :-)

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RE: repository for thunderbird [solved]

[Daniel B. Thurman]

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> g wrote:
> > > change to thunderbird.
> > 
> > > would appreciate a link.
> > 
> > finaly. perserveriance pays off.
> > 
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/thunderbird
> 
> My only gripe with Thunderbird is that it does not
> seem to work with my Exchange 2000 Email server. I
> don't think it is the problem with Exchange but if
> I am mistaken, I would love to hear about it.
> 
> I could not understand why Thunderbird is not able
> obtain all of my folders/subfolders.  There is this
> thing called "Subscribe" but it seems that it is
> limited to "Inbox", "Trash" and "Junk".  I have
> hundreds of folders under my inbox as well as
> other things, and IMAP clients DO find them, so
> what is the deal with Thunderbird?  Is there an
> option somewhere that I am missing?
> 
> Anyone, please?
> 
> Thanks-
> Dan

Ah, I shoulda -kept my mouth shut- and tried harder!

I figured it all out and got Thunderbird to work!
AWESOME!

Dan

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RE: repository for thunderbird [solved]

[Daniel B. Thurman]

g wrote:
> > change to thunderbird.
> 
> > would appreciate a link.
> 
> finaly. perserveriance pays off.
> 
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/thunderbird

My only gripe with Thunderbird is that it does not
seem to work with my Exchange 2000 Email server. I
don't think it is the problem with Exchange but if
I am mistaken, I would love to hear about it.

I could not understand why Thunderbird is not able
obtain all of my folders/subfolders.  There is this
thing called "Subscribe" but it seems that it is
limited to "Inbox", "Trash" and "Junk".  I have
hundreds of folders under my inbox as well as
other things, and IMAP clients DO find them, so
what is the deal with Thunderbird?  Is there an
option somewhere that I am missing?

Anyone, please?

Thanks-
Dan

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Re: [F8] Installing Lame

[Daniel B. Thurman]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 10:40 -0700, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 10:27 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: 
> > Transaction Check Error: 
> >   file /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0.0.0 from install of 
> > lame-libs-3.97-6.lvn8.i386 conflicts with file from package 
> > libmp3lame0-3.97-16.fc8.i386 
> > 
> > Error Summary 
> > - 
> > 
> > So what can I do to get lame installed?
> 
> Short answer: resolve the conflict. Longer answer: find out which 
> package libmp3lame0-3.97-16.fc8.i386 belongs to (rpm -qf 
> libmp3lame0-3.97-16.fc8.i386) and remove it (yum erase ).
> 
> Of course, that may cause yum to want to remove other stuff. You'll
> have 
> to decide whether you really want the Livna package that much.


Unfortunately, this is what I would lose by removing
libmp3lame0-3.97-16.fc8.i386
all of this so that I can play music with many of the codecs. Dang, why
is it so
hard to install LAME?  What is it about not synchronizing efforts so
that lame
here and lame there are not even compatible?  I need lame so that I can
simply
convert wma to mp3.  Geez.

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1.7 M
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219 k
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489 k
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1.2 M
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6.5 M
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159 k

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Re: repository for thunderbird [solved]

[g]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 18:06 +, g wrote:

> change to thunderbird.

> would appreciate a link.

finaly. perserveriance pays off.


https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/thunderbird


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Re: repository for thunderbird

[Craig White]

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 18:06 +, g wrote:
> greetings,
> 
> i am having a bit of a time getting used to evolution and would like to
> change to thunderbird.
> 
> i have looked thru most of fedora's sites, but as yet have not found a
> repository for thunderbird.
> 
> would appreciate a link.

it's been part of Fedora Everything at least since F7

yum install thunderbird

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repository for thunderbird

[g]

greetings,

i am having a bit of a time getting used to evolution and would like to
change to thunderbird.

i have looked thru most of fedora's sites, but as yet have not found a
repository for thunderbird.

would appreciate a link.

tia.


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