Re: testing hardware - use what software ?
max bianco wrote: Yes, people do not realize how hard it is to pinpoint a hardware problem. Many are under the impression there is some magic involved and results should be instant and/or provide instant "Star Trek" style ... Excellent point that many do not realize. There is a mistaken notion that if it works then everything is tip top. All comments, criticisms, questions, pointing out of incorrect info welcome and appreciated. Thanks for the tips, Max. DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: ssh to a remote server via gateway server
On Sat, 2008-05-31 at 13:58 +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 31May2008 13:57, I wrote: > | Conveniently, it can make use of an sshtorc file that maps "name" into an > | arbitrary "name1!name2!name3!..." ssh hop path. I routiney get only > | certain hosts as "sshto foo" where "foo" designates a multihop ssh path. > > s/only/onto/ > > Whoops. s/Whoops/Oops/ :-) poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: ssh to a remote server via gateway server
On 31May2008 13:57, I wrote: | Conveniently, it can make use of an sshtorc file that maps "name" into an | arbitrary "name1!name2!name3!..." ssh hop path. I routiney get only | certain hosts as "sshto foo" where "foo" designates a multihop ssh path. s/only/onto/ Whoops. -- Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ NFS: Not a File System -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: ssh to a remote server via gateway server
On 30May2008 19:14, Mikkel L. Ellertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cameron Simpson wrote: >> I missed the start of this thread, but you can use the ProxyCommand ssh >> option to hop through multiple servers, keeping the "top level" ssh >> nicely connected to your terminal and the endpoint (via the proxycommand >> tunnel). Which may solve the -t option issue. >> >> I have a script called "sshto" that does exactly this for multihop ssh >> connections. Very handy, especially since you can make "sshto" the >> default transport for rsync, letting you do multihop rsyncs easily: >> >> rsync some-dir/ host1\!host2\!host3:some-other-dir/ > > It sounds like you have experience with what he is trying to do, so > please continue to advice the OP. What he is does now is ssh to PC A, and > then ssh to PC B. What he wants to ssh to PC B in one command, but he has > to go through PC A. (firewall machine?) Then he definitely wants sshto: http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/css/bin/sshto Conveniently, it can make use of an sshtorc file that maps "name" into an arbitrary "name1!name2!name3!..." ssh hop path. I routiney get only certain hosts as "sshto foo" where "foo" designates a multihop ssh path. Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ My motto is, 'Do it my way or watch your butt.' - Nathan Arizona -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm: installing under f8
g wrote: On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 10:28 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: + Yum Version: 3.2.7 COMMAND: yum -v -y install thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm 2 What is the " 2" doing at the end of the command-line? You missed one line in what you pasted into the email: the actual command that made this output. Without that info, it would seem that you accidentally appended a ' 2' to the command you wrote at the command line. It might be in your history if you are interested: $ history|grep thunderbird Nice to see the 'yum install blah' worked after all ;) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why!! does End Session default to Runlevel 3
not to be pendant. Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 23:54 +, g wrote: # Run xdm in runlevel 5 from 'man xdm': DESCRIPTION Xdm manages a collection of X displays, which may be on the local host or remote servers. x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon which you defined. and i should have cut out and followed with, tells what you have for 'x-windows' manager. assuming, you wrote, Pedantry alert: and replied with information of, prefdm configures the *desktop* manager (KDE, Gnome, whatever), of which the X window manager is just a part (usually kwm or metacity for KDE and Gnome respectively). which i agree too. any way, jim boots level 3 and rex boots level 5, and why difference. -- yes. i am using mozilla thunderbird. and it feels good. ;o) tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
new wiki login issue.
Rahul Sundaram wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraProject:Wiki_migration_to-do has more details. I am getting the following error as the reponse when trying to login to wiki with my fas details: Internal error Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; in LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information. Is this known ? Do I need to open a ticket somewhere ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems with flash (swf) player and uTube
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 21:26 +0200, Antonio M wrote: > what is the reply of about;plugins in Firefox??? For the original poster, that should be: about:plugins With a colon between the words, not a semi-colon. -- (This box runs Centos 5.0, my others still run FC 4, 5, 6, & 7, in case that's important to the thread.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: EDAC i5000 NON-FATAL ERRORs
Jack Howarth wrote: I noticed that after upgrading the kernel on a Fedora 7 x86_64 box is the latest kernel (the box hadn't been rebooted for some months) that I am now seeing the following in my messages log... May 25 04:30:56 fourier kernel: EDAC i5000 MC0: NON-FATAL ERRORS Found!!! 1st NON-FATAL Err Reg= 0x1 May 25 04:30:56 fourier kernel: EDAC MC0: CE row 1, channel 0, label "": (Branch=0 DRAM-Bank=3 RDWR=Read RAS=14339 CAS=672, CE Err=0x1) These messages always occur on DRAM-Bank 3 and are always NON-FATAL. The messages appear roughly once an hour and are rarely repeated immediately. This machine contains a Tyan Tempest i5000XL motherboard with ECC memory installed. Does anyone know if the recent kernels had any changes which made these motherboard chipset report ECC memory errors which were not reported in the past? I haven't been able to reproduce these errors in memtest86 yet with or without ECC. So I am wondering if I am seeing noise from the EDAC driver or real ECC errors. Thanks in advance for any insights on this. Jack Well, until recently the module that supports the i5000 chipset was probably *NOT* in the kernel, so it was probably added recently or before it was not loading at all. You could check the older kernels and see if it had the proper i5000 modules being loaded. If memtest86 is new enough and can see the ecc monitoring hardware of the i5000 you should be able to duplicate it, if the memtest86 is older and does not properly detect the i5000 hardware then any correctable ECC errors will be silently corrected by the hardware and memtest86 will be none the wiser. There is an edac list someplace and someone over there can probably interpret the error in more detail. If it was noise, I would have expected the bank to move around, if you have more than one dimm you could try moving the dimms around and see if the error location changes, there are also some stuff for edac in /sys that gives more details and has running counters of the errors since the machine has been up. Roger -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: EDAC i5000 NON-FATAL ERRORs
Jack Howarth wrote: I noticed that after upgrading the kernel on a Fedora 7 x86_64 box is the latest kernel (the box hadn't been rebooted for some months) that I am now seeing the following in my messages log... May 25 04:30:56 fourier kernel: EDAC i5000 MC0: NON-FATAL ERRORS Found!!! 1st NON-FATAL Err Reg= 0x1 May 25 04:30:56 fourier kernel: EDAC MC0: CE row 1, channel 0, label "": (Branch=0 DRAM-Bank=3 RDWR=Read RAS=14339 CAS=672, CE Err=0x1) The following thread might be useful: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-March/msg01994.html -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F8 sound
Tim wrote: On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 10:09 +, Kevin Kofler wrote: If you want old stuff, use Fedora 8, not 9. Has 8 got proper working sound yet? Yes, from release of F8 ! If there is issues for your setup/hardware, the developers might need to know what type of sound hardware you have, etc. You could upload an hardware profile to smolt with: smoltSendProfile and then use the link it provides to view and mark your particular hardware bits as working / not-working. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F8 -> F9 horror
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:31 PM, lanas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le Vendredi, 30 Mai 2008 10:09:22 + (UTC), > Kevin Kofler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > >> If you want old stuff, use Fedora 8, not 9. > > Anytime. I like old stuff that recognizes network printers right off > the install. Bravo F8. > > I hate new stuff that not only does not recognize printers after > the install, but won't see them after telling it to do a scan. > > Proud to run old stuff. > > And please, keep your new stuff to play with. When it reaches a state > that can be acceptable, then let it out. > > Not before. You're on the Fedora Linux distribution mailing list -- Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F8 -> F9 horror
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 21:31 -0400, lanas wrote: > And please, keep your new stuff to play with. When it reaches a state > that can be acceptable, then let it out. > > Not before. You do realize that the way it gets to be "acceptable" is by people using it? You do realize that that is precisely what Fedora is *for*? If you don't like that, by all means use Centos or RHEL or some other distro, just don't expect a bleeding-edge system to be trouble-free. poc PS I had no trouble configuring my HP network printer. The process was identical to F8 and works the same. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F8 -> F9 horror
Le Vendredi, 30 Mai 2008 10:09:22 + (UTC), Kevin Kofler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > If you want old stuff, use Fedora 8, not 9. Anytime. I like old stuff that recognizes network printers right off the install. Bravo F8. I hate new stuff that not only does not recognize printers after the install, but won't see them after telling it to do a scan. Proud to run old stuff. And please, keep your new stuff to play with. When it reaches a state that can be acceptable, then let it out. Not before. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to find WEP/WPA key to network if possible
Steve Searle wrote: Around 01:51am on Saturday, May 31, 2008 (UK time), Kevin J. Cummings scrawled: If the Admin is doing MAC filtering then having the WPA key isn't going to buy you anything unless your MAC address is already configured in the router. MACs are easy to spoof. Maybe so, but that doesn't mean the administration will look on it any better than hacking into the network Steve -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why!! does End Session default to Runlevel 3
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 23:54 +, g wrote: > > # Run xdm in runlevel 5 > > x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon > > tells what you have for 'x-windows' manager. Pedantry alert: prefdm configures the *desktop* manager (KDE, Gnome, whatever), of which the X window manager is just a part (usually kwm or metacity for KDE and Gnome respectively). poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to find WEP/WPA key to network if possible
Around 01:51am on Saturday, May 31, 2008 (UK time), Kevin J. Cummings scrawled: > If the Admin is doing MAC filtering then having the WPA key isn't going > to buy you anything unless your MAC address is already configured in the > router. MACs are easy to spoof. Steve -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting a bad thing? 01:53:18 up 8 days, 6:25, 1 user, load average: 0.26, 0.07, 0.02 pgpi5UbqyiarC.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems with flash (swf) player and uTube
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 16:59 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Mauriat wrote: > > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 12:56 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > >> Antonio M wrote: > > >> | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > >> | > > > >> | > I cannot seem to get the player to work > > >> | > in Firefox. Please advise? > > >> | > > > >> | > Thanks- > > >> | > Dan > > >> | > > > >> | what is the reply of about;plugins in Firefox??? > > >> > > >> Firefox about:plugins reports "everything" is installed, > > >> except for mozplugger claiming that it was not even > > >> configured. I yum removed this, tried again - no > > >> dice. But further testing reveal that MOST SWF files > > >> worked - just that some do not. Different versions > > >> of SWF are not compatable? > > > > > > You don't say which Flash player you are using. If it's the Adobe > > one, > > > it should work for all sites. If it's gnash or swfdec then some > > things > > > won't work. > > > > I believe he did in the output: > > "Starting process: /usr/bin/gtk-gnash" > > > > Hmm... so should I fix this? If so, how please? If you don't mind a non-free Flash player, install the Adobe one. Go to www.adobe.com and follow the trail to the download page. Download the Linux rpm version and install: yum remove gnash yum localinstall Also, make sure you have libflashsupport. If your system is 64-bit you'll need *both* libflashsupport.i386 and libflashsupport.x86_64. You may want to install the Adobe repo file in /etc/yum.repos.d. That way the Flash plugin will stay up to date. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to find WEP/WPA key to network if possible
Antonio Olivares wrote: Yes, but the network is dhcp with MAC filtering and many teachers do not know how to get into the network. Another thing is that they do not have wires to get them connected. I will stay out of this now. If the Admin is doing MAC filtering then having the WPA key isn't going to buy you anything unless your MAC address is already configured in the router. -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems with flash (swf) player and uTube
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 19:31 -0400, Mauriat wrote: > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 12:56 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > >> Antonio M wrote: > >> | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > >> | > > >> | > I cannot seem to get the player to work > >> | > in Firefox. Please advise? > >> | > > >> | > Thanks- > >> | > Dan > >> | > > >> | what is the reply of about;plugins in Firefox??? > >> > >> Firefox about:plugins reports "everything" is installed, > >> except for mozplugger claiming that it was not even > >> configured. I yum removed this, tried again - no > >> dice. But further testing reveal that MOST SWF files > >> worked - just that some do not. Different versions > >> of SWF are not compatable? > > > > You don't say which Flash player you are using. If it's the Adobe one, > > it should work for all sites. If it's gnash or swfdec then some things > > won't work. > > I believe he did in the output: > "Starting process: /usr/bin/gtk-gnash" Yes, I missed that. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to find WEP/WPA key to network if possible
Mike Burger wrote: But then, again, if common sense were truly common, everyone would have it. ;-) Having it and Using it are 2 different things. :-( -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: ssh to a remote server via gateway server
Cameron Simpson wrote: On 30May2008 08:31, Mikkel L. Ellertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: lux wrote: I'm not sure that Mikkel's solution will work: "Pseudo-terminal will not be allocated because stdin is not a terminal" will be the error message. You can try adding the -t option to the command to run on PC A. I missed the start of this thread, but you can use the ProxyCommand ssh option to hop through multiple servers, keeping the "top level" ssh nicely connected to your terminal and the endpoint (via the proxycommand tunnel). Which may solve the -t option issue. I have a script called "sshto" that does exactly this for multihop ssh connections. Very handy, especially since you can make "sshto" the default transport for rsync, letting you do multihop rsyncs easily: rsync some-dir/ host1\!host2\!host3:some-other-dir/ (You will need the \! on the command prompt line instead of plain ! to avoid your shell's history substitution syntax - a shell script does not need the annoying sloshes). Cheers, It sounds like you have experience with what he is trying to do, so please continue to advice the OP. What he is does now is ssh to PC A, and then ssh to PC B. What he wants to ssh to PC B in one command, but he has to go through PC A. (firewall machine?) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: gecko-mediaplayer?
Aaron Konstam wrote: Now do this. Open firefox and go to: about:config. Change the configuration: browser.download.hide_plugins_without_extentions from true to false. Now I have never tried this on firefox in F9 but it is worth trying. Now under Edit->preferences->content there should be something on the Look like the correct location in Firefox 3.0b5 is now: Edit->Preferences->Applications bottom half of the page (Manage in earlier firefoxes) which when clicked on will allow you to choose what program or plugin will be used for each kind of mime.type. That might help you solve your problem. -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why!! does End Session default to Runlevel 3
oops. my bad... g wrote: means you boot up in 'x11', aka, 'x-windows'. when you log out of rex boots init level 3, receives login/password prompt. after login, he i switched names. in above, 1st part, change 'you' to 'rex'. 2nd part, change 'rex' to 'you'. please excuse. -- yes. i am using mozilla thunderbird. and it feels good. ;o) tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails [SOLVED]
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: * This message is sent to by Thunderbird i well know that feeling. -- yes. i am using mozilla thunderbird. and it feels good. ;o) tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems with flash (swf) player and uTube
Mauriat wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 12:56 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >> Antonio M wrote: >> | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >> | > >> | > I cannot seem to get the player to work >> | > in Firefox. Please advise? >> | > >> | > Thanks- >> | > Dan >> | > >> | what is the reply of about;plugins in Firefox??? >> >> Firefox about:plugins reports "everything" is installed, >> except for mozplugger claiming that it was not even >> configured. I yum removed this, tried again - no >> dice. But further testing reveal that MOST SWF files >> worked - just that some do not. Different versions >> of SWF are not compatable? > > You don't say which Flash player you are using. If it's the Adobe one, > it should work for all sites. If it's gnash or swfdec then some things > won't work. I believe he did in the output: "Starting process: /usr/bin/gtk-gnash" Hmm... so should I fix this? If so, how please? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why!! does End Session default to Runlevel 3
Jim wrote: could it be, one has '/etc/inittab' is set 'level 3', other at 'level 5' /etc/inittab # inittab This file describes how the INIT process should set up # Default runlevel. The runlevels used by RHS are: # 5 - X11 id:5:initdefault: means you boot up in 'x11', aka, 'x-windows'. when you log out of 'x-windows', you return to 'x' display manager prompt. rex boots init level 3, receives login/password prompt. after login, he types 'startx', 'xstart', gnome, or kde to gain 'x-windows'. when he logs out of 'x-windows', he returns to 'command line' prompt. # Run xdm in runlevel 5 x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon tells what you have for 'x-windows' manager. ???. -- yes. i am using mozilla thunderbird. and it feels good. ;o) tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails [SOLVED]
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Wow. That was a chore. It turned out that it was the exchange server - that I had to allow my local users the right to relay messages via the Exchange Server. That was part of the problem. I also had to fix my DNS entries so that my email server IP address uses local IP addresses rather than public ip addresses. Thank you all for responding and giving me the clues in finding my mistakes. * This message is sent to by Thunderbird Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why!! does End Session default to Runlevel 3
g wrote: Rex Dieter wrote: Jim wrote: FC8/KDE When I do a End Session it doesn't drop to the Login Window, it goes to Runlevel 3 (shell) kde certainly doesn't do that here for me. Maybe X is crashing on logout? could it be, one has '/etc/inittab' is set 'level 3', other at 'level 5' /etc/inittab # # inittab This file describes how the INIT process should set up # the system in a certain run-level. # # Author: Miquel van Smoorenburg, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> # Modified for RHS Linux by Marc Ewing and Donnie Barnes # # Default runlevel. The runlevels used by RHS are: # 0 - halt (Do NOT set initdefault to this) # 1 - Single user mode # 2 - Multiuser, without NFS (The same as 3, if you do not have networking) # 3 - Full multiuser mode # 4 - unused # 5 - X11 # 6 - reboot (Do NOT set initdefault to this) # id:5:initdefault: # System initialization. si::sysinit:/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit l0:0:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 0 l1:1:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 1 l2:2:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 2 l3:3:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 3 l4:4:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 4 l5:5:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 5 l6:6:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 6 # Trap CTRL-ALT-DELETE ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now # When our UPS tells us power has failed, assume we have a few minutes # of power left. Schedule a shutdown for 2 minutes from now. # This does, of course, assume you have powerd installed and your # UPS connected and working correctly. pf::powerfail:/sbin/shutdown -f -h +2 "Power Failure; System Shutting Down" # If power was restored before the shutdown kicked in, cancel it. pr:12345:powerokwait:/sbin/shutdown -c "Power Restored; Shutdown Cancelled" # Run gettys in standard runlevels 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1 2:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty2 3:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty3 4:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty4 5:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty5 6:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty6 # Run xdm in runlevel 5 x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems with flash (swf) player and uTube
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 12:56 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >> Antonio M wrote: >> | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >> | > >> | > I cannot seem to get the player to work >> | > in Firefox. Please advise? >> | > >> | > Thanks- >> | > Dan >> | > >> | what is the reply of about;plugins in Firefox??? >> >> Firefox about:plugins reports "everything" is installed, >> except for mozplugger claiming that it was not even >> configured. I yum removed this, tried again - no >> dice. But further testing reveal that MOST SWF files >> worked - just that some do not. Different versions >> of SWF are not compatable? > > You don't say which Flash player you are using. If it's the Adobe one, > it should work for all sites. If it's gnash or swfdec then some things > won't work. I believe he did in the output: "Starting process: /usr/bin/gtk-gnash" -Mauriat -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why!! does End Session default to Runlevel 3
Rex Dieter wrote: Jim wrote: FC8/KDE When I do a End Session it doesn't drop to the Login Window, it goes to Runlevel 3 (shell) kde certainly doesn't do that here for me. Maybe X is crashing on logout? could it be, one has '/etc/inittab' is set 'level 3', other at 'level 5' -- yes. i am using mozilla thunderbird. and it feels good. ;o) tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I have the F8-Thunderbird account IMAPed to my SMTP server, so I can read/send local email messages to local users. But I cannot send email Thurnerbird (IMAP) outbound non-local messages. then you should set up using 2 accounts, inside and outside accounts and smtps, you can use your filters to direct your incoming mail. I can use windoes outlook to send/receive local/remote emails via the same SMTP server from which this message was sent. I am trying to figure out why via F8->Thunderbird remote outbound email messages are "refused" (Thunderbird give the appearance of no errors) - I tried to send a message to Fedora-Users but was unable to do so. you have your setup with default as inside account. you need to setup outside smtp also. Any ideas? rtfm comes to mind. perseverance helps. -- yes. i am using mozilla thunderbird. and it feels good. ;o) tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to find WEP/WPA key to network if possible
Timothy Murphy wrote: Antonio Olivares wrote: How does one get a KEY to a secured network that could be WEP/WPA? The guy is on vacation, A teacher needs to connect to the network to teach a lesson. Nothing illegal or bad. Otherwise I would not ask this question. 1) Wouldn't there usually be an ethernet connection available in such a situation? 2) Re hacking, with my AP at least it seems absurdly simple to change the encryption key over the web. You can disable wireless access to the router config, at least I can on my WRT54g, you can also make it accessible only using https, not really a security feature but an extra speed bump is always useful. I would also disable UPnP if you haven't already. -- On the eighth day he said "There shall be no rest for the weary." On the ninth day he farted, and it smelled like sulphur. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 14:47 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: You're problem isn't Thunderbird...it's your configuration of Exchange server. as you say, i believe his main problem is ms server. but he also has tbird problems that could be addressed by knowing what all he changed. tbird could have worked if set up no proxy, standard pop, with smtp up. then he would have had to just enter pop and smtp addresses. -- yes. i am using mozilla thunderbird. and it feels good. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: ssh to a remote server via gateway server
On 30May2008 08:31, Mikkel L. Ellertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > lux wrote: >> I'm not sure that Mikkel's solution will work: >> "Pseudo-terminal will not be allocated because stdin is not a terminal" >> will be the error message. >> > You can try adding the -t option to the command to run on PC A. I missed the start of this thread, but you can use the ProxyCommand ssh option to hop through multiple servers, keeping the "top level" ssh nicely connected to your terminal and the endpoint (via the proxycommand tunnel). Which may solve the -t option issue. I have a script called "sshto" that does exactly this for multihop ssh connections. Very handy, especially since you can make "sshto" the default transport for rsync, letting you do multihop rsyncs easily: rsync some-dir/ host1\!host2\!host3:some-other-dir/ (You will need the \! on the command prompt line instead of plain ! to avoid your shell's history substitution syntax - a shell script does not need the annoying sloshes). Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ Our job is to make the questions so painful that the only way to make the pain go away is by thinking.- Fred Friendly -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Craig White wrote: | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: | > I cannot figure out how to get thunderbird to send | > out email. | > | > Please advise? | | Edit (menu) => Account Settings => Outgoing Server SMTP | | Select the setup you have and click 'Edit' | | By default, Thunderbird uses 'authentication' on | sending...this can be a | problem with some setups. What is odd, it seems, that when you create an IMAP account, in the "Server Settings" area, there is a "Security Settings" section there where authenication can be defined, however, there is also a "Outgoing Server (SMTP)" section that has a "Security And Authenication" section which duplicates it, ie the "None", "TLS, if available", ... What is not clear to me in the "Outgoing Server (SMTP)" section, "Use name and password", how do you enter both the username and password in this single field? What is the delimiter? A space between the two? Enter just your user name in this field. The passowrd gets prompted for when it is needed, and it gives you the option to remember it as well. I have configured my Exchange server to allow all local only relays, and I even see the log entries identifying connections, and there appears in it, no errors as to failed deliveries. It seems very transparent. I have no clue where the problem is, I get no returned failed delivery return messages. It is very transparent, or so it seems. I wonder if I should use F8's sendmail for Outbound deliveries on the F8 system, providing I have the option to bypass the IMAP account's Outgoing server settings. IMAP is an incoming server protocol only. Its for reading email, not sending it. Thunderbird is trying to configure an outgoing server for you to use should you wish to reply to an email in your IMAP mailboxes. I remembered why I abandoned Thunderbird and it was because I could not figure out how to make outbound non-local deliveries. Strange, I've been using Thunderbird (and Mozilla Email before that) for at least 10 years now. The biggest problem configuring your SMTP is allowing it to accept email from non-local systems (by default, sendmail only accepts email from local hosts on Fedora systems). This is a separate problem from configuring Thunderbird, as that is a problem with sendmail, not Thunderbird. So, if you are running an email server on a different system than you are running Thunderbird on, it gets complicated. The last time I configured my Thunderbird, at work, for outgoing email, I had to connect directly to the company's outgoing SMTP server for outgoing emails. We also had to beg the IT folks to keep the Exchange/IMAP port open for us to use (unsupported, of course) to be able to read emails with something else besides Outlook. Sigh it is going to be a long day. Dan -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: What is odd, it seems, that when you create an IMAP account, in the "Server Settings" area, there is a "Security Settings" section there where authenication can be defined, however, there is also a "Outgoing Server (SMTP)" section that has a "Security And Authenication" section which duplicates it, ie the "None", "TLS, if available", ... again, if you do not understand what it is, online help should explain, if not, then ask. you will learn more about what you are trying to do. What is not clear to me in the "Outgoing Server (SMTP)" section, "Use name and password", how do you enter both the username and password in this single field? What is the delimiter? A space between the two? only enter 'user name'. you will be asked for password later in sending. if you have 'remember name/password' enabled, set master password and not worry about it each time later. I wonder if I should use F8's sendmail for Outbound deliveries on the F8 system, providing I have the option to bypass the IMAP account's Outgoing server settings. clearing up present system problems would be better in long run. then you are not faced with additional interfacing of 2 programs. I remembered why I abandoned Thunderbird and it was because I could not figure out how to make outbound non-local deliveries. it is easy, you just click somewhere that you should not have, or you set up outbound wrong. if you follow mozilla's procedure, or at least read it, you should find what step you took wrong. if what you have done has not been experienced and corrected by another, it may be difficult to trouble shoot. it would be nice if you could press a button and all return to default. good luck. -- yes. i am using mozilla thunderbird. and it feels good. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. . -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 14:47 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Craig White wrote: > | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > | > I cannot figure out how to get thunderbird to send > | > out email. > | > > | > Please advise? > | > | Edit (menu) => Account Settings => Outgoing Server SMTP > | > | Select the setup you have and click 'Edit' > | > | By default, Thunderbird uses 'authentication' on > | sending...this can be a > | problem with some setups. > > What is odd, it seems, that when you create an IMAP > account, in the "Server Settings" area, there is a > "Security Settings" section there where authenication > can be defined, however, there is also a "Outgoing > Server (SMTP)" section that has a "Security And > Authenication" section which duplicates it, ie the > "None", "TLS, if available", ... > > What is not clear to me in the "Outgoing Server (SMTP)" > section, "Use name and password", how do you enter both > the username and password in this single field? What is > the delimiter? A space between the two? > > I have configured my Exchange server to allow all local > only relays, and I even see the log entries identifying > connections, and there appears in it, no errors as to > failed deliveries. It seems very transparent. > > I have no clue where the problem is, I get no returned > failed delivery return messages. It is very transparent, > or so it seems. > > I wonder if I should use F8's sendmail for Outbound > deliveries on the F8 system, providing I have the option > to bypass the IMAP account's Outgoing server settings. > > I remembered why I abandoned Thunderbird and it was > because I could not figure out how to make outbound > non-local deliveries. > > Sigh it is going to be a long day. if you are going to run Exchange server, it would seem reasonable to know how to configure it to handle mail relaying properly for so many reasons. You're problem isn't Thunderbird...it's your configuration of Exchange server. here's a Windows list that can probably help you with configuration of Exchange server... http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/winnt-l.html Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 14:47 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Craig White wrote: > | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > | > I cannot figure out how to get thunderbird to send > | > out email. > | > > | > Please advise? > | > | Edit (menu) => Account Settings => Outgoing Server SMTP > | > | Select the setup you have and click 'Edit' > | > | By default, Thunderbird uses 'authentication' on > | sending...this can be a > | problem with some setups. > > What is odd, it seems, that when you create an IMAP > account, in the "Server Settings" area, there is a > "Security Settings" section there where authenication > can be defined, however, there is also a "Outgoing > Server (SMTP)" section that has a "Security And > Authenication" section which duplicates it, ie the > "None", "TLS, if available", ... > > What is not clear to me in the "Outgoing Server (SMTP)" > section, "Use name and password", how do you enter both > the username and password in this single field? What is > the delimiter? A space between the two? Enter the username only. The first time you send a message you will be asked for the password, with an option to store it locally IIRC. > I have configured my Exchange server to allow all local > only relays, and I even see the log entries identifying > connections, and there appears in it, no errors as to > failed deliveries. It seems very transparent. > > I have no clue where the problem is, I get no returned > failed delivery return messages. It is very transparent, > or so it seems. > > I wonder if I should use F8's sendmail for Outbound > deliveries on the F8 system, providing I have the option > to bypass the IMAP account's Outgoing server settings. You could but it's probably going to be harder to configure. An easier alternative is to do SMTP directly to your ISP's server and bypass Exchange, assuming there isn't an internal firewall preventing you from doing that. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 13:08 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > | > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > | > | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > | > | > I cannot figure out how to get thunderbird to send > | > | > out email. > | > | > | > | You could start by explaining what you've tried to do. At the > | > | very least > | > | you need to configure an SMTP server. > | > > | > I have the F8-Thunderbird account IMAPed to my SMTP server, > | > so I can read/send local email messages to local users. But > | > I cannot send email Thurnerbird (IMAP) outbound non-local > | > messages. > | > | IMAP and SMTP are completely and utterly independant of each > | other. Just > | because you have IMAP set up to read mail, and maybe to post in local > | mailboxes, means absolutely nothing to SMTP. You have to set it up > | separately. > > Understood. I was not exactly clear if by using an IMAP client, > that messages delivered via IMAP acts as if the message was sent > directly via the SMTP server as an authorized user, no different > that using an Outlook client - but that may be a wrong assumption > so it seems. Definitely wrong. TB along with other IMAP clients can deposit a message in a shared or public folder on the IMAP server, but that's a totally different proposition from *sending* a message, for which SMTP is essential. > | > I can use windoes outlook to send/receive local/remote emails > | > via the same SMTP server from which this message was sent. > | > | Then it should be easy. Just copy the SMTP settings from Outlook. OTOH > | if Outlook is using an Exchange server then I'm afraid can't help you. > > Yes, that may be the case. Outlook (not Outlook Express) is connected > to the Exchange server from a windows workstation (or server) and it > probably already "knows" how to authenicate, thus allows remote delivery > (in other words, it was not a relay issue. As I say, I can't comment on what wierdness Exchange may be up to. > | > I am trying to figure out why via F8->Thunderbird remote > | > outbound email messages are "refused" (Thunderbird give the > | > appearance of no errors) - I tried to send a message to > | > Fedora-Users but was unable to do so. > | > | What do you mean "refused"? Is this a pop-up message on your screen, > | a returned error email, or what? Is there no indication of why it's > | refused? Is it refused by your local server or by a remote server? Are > | you using a fully-qualified domain name for the destination > | or some kind of local alias? > > By refused, I mean there is no indication that there was a delivery > failure, no pop-ups, nothing. It was totally transparent. It wasn't > until I realized that my outbound message to Fedora-User never > got there. So "refused" means "didn't arrive (yet)". That's another story. Your message might have been queued for some reason, or dropped in transit. If you have no feedback, you don't know what happened. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problem Installing VMware Tools in Fedora-9
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 13:30 -0700, Doyle Rhynard wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 16:11 -0700, Doyle Rhynard wrote: > > > >> I am having a problem installing VMware Tools in a Fedora-9 VM that I > >> created using the latest version of Workstation-6. I keep getting the > >> error message: "The directory of kernel headers (@@VMWARE@@ UTS RELEASE) > >> does not match your running kernel version (2.6.25-14.fc9.x86_64)" when > >> it tries to patch the kernel. I have installed several previous version > >> of Fedora on VMware and never encountered a problem like this. > >> > >> I checked that > >> fedora-9-x86_64-DVD/Packages/kernel-headers-2.6.25-14.fc9.x86_64rpm file > >> using "rpm -qpl" was what was installed at "/usr/include". I even made a > >> link under "/usr/src/linux/include" to match the directory structure > >> that VMware Tools was expecting, but got the same result. > >> > >> I have seen several messages asking for assistance with Fedora-9 > >> installed with VMware, so it would appear that others have been able to > >> do it successfully. It is quite possible that I have made some > >> unintentional mistake somewhere that I am unable to find. > >> > >> Unfortunately, VMware does not support Fedora because it considers it to > >> be too experimental and unstable, which is probably accurate, especially > >> for version 9, so I cannot ask there. If anyone in Fedora-Land has had a > >> similar experience or has any ideas about how to solve this problem, let > >> me know. > >> > > > > You need to run vmware-config.pl (as root). If that doesn't work, Google > > for vmware-any-any-update117.tar.gz (or anything later than 117), > > download, untar and run the runme.pl script (again as root). > > > > poc > > > > > > > As far as I can determine, this is a patch to the Workstation program > running on a Linux host and not the Fedora Guest . I am running with a > Windows host for which this patch is not applicable. Please tell me if > this is incorrect. You are correct in that the patch is aimed at a Fedora host, but nowhere in your original message do you state that your host is a Windows machine. That's a fairly important point to make when asking for help. Unfortunately it's not a configuration I'm familiar with. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
Craig White wrote: | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: | > I cannot figure out how to get thunderbird to send | > out email. | > | > Please advise? | | Edit (menu) => Account Settings => Outgoing Server SMTP | | Select the setup you have and click 'Edit' | | By default, Thunderbird uses 'authentication' on | sending...this can be a | problem with some setups. What is odd, it seems, that when you create an IMAP account, in the "Server Settings" area, there is a "Security Settings" section there where authenication can be defined, however, there is also a "Outgoing Server (SMTP)" section that has a "Security And Authenication" section which duplicates it, ie the "None", "TLS, if available", ... What is not clear to me in the "Outgoing Server (SMTP)" section, "Use name and password", how do you enter both the username and password in this single field? What is the delimiter? A space between the two? I have configured my Exchange server to allow all local only relays, and I even see the log entries identifying connections, and there appears in it, no errors as to failed deliveries. It seems very transparent. I have no clue where the problem is, I get no returned failed delivery return messages. It is very transparent, or so it seems. I wonder if I should use F8's sendmail for Outbound deliveries on the F8 system, providing I have the option to bypass the IMAP account's Outgoing server settings. I remembered why I abandoned Thunderbird and it was because I could not figure out how to make outbound non-local deliveries. Sigh it is going to be a long day. Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: Problems with flash (swf) player and uTube
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 12:56 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Antonio M wrote: > | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > | > > | > I cannot seem to get the player to work > | > in Firefox. Please advise? > | > > | > Thanks- > | > Dan > | > > | what is the reply of about;plugins in Firefox??? > > Firefox about:plugins reports "everything" is installed, > except for mozplugger claiming that it was not even > configured. I yum removed this, tried again - no > dice. But further testing reveal that MOST SWF files > worked - just that some do not. Different versions > of SWF are not compatable? You don't say which Flash player you are using. If it's the Adobe one, it should work for all sites. If it's gnash or swfdec then some things won't work. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I cannot figure out how to get thunderbird to send out email. Please advise? click 'help' on menu bar, then click 'mozilla thunderbird help' to log you on to http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/ you will find very good instructions for setting up tbird. from reply post and your answers, you twisted send and receive, or never set up send correct in start. questions yet asked, how are you connecting to isp mail server, direct, proxiy, local network server, single user host? who and how, if isp, are they set up to receive? ie, mail.bellsouth.net, pop.bellsouth.net, smtp.bellsouth.net. later. -- tc,hago. g . yes. i am using mozilla thunderbird. in a free world without fences, who needs gates. . -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: gecko-mediaplayer?
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 10:41 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote: > Knute Johnson wrote: > > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> Try removing mozplugger. I don't have it and am not sure it's necessary > >> (plus it's apparently not configured correctly). Since it's at the top > >> of the plugin list it might be interfering with gecko-mediaplayer. > >> > >> poc Ok, you are having real problems and it is time to get serious about your problem. What do mean about mozplugger being on top of your plugin list? Please tell me again what media you are trying to play? Now do this. Open firefox and go to: about:config. Change the configuration: browser.download.hide_plugins_without_extentions from true to false. Now I have never tried this on firefox in F9 but it is worth trying. Now under Edit->preferences->content there should be something on the bottom half of the page (Manage in earlier firefoxes) which when clicked on will allow you to choose what program or plugin will be used for each kind of mime.type. That might help you solve your problem. > >> > > > > Thanks, I'll try that. > > > > I removed mozplugger and I'm closer but not working yet. The player > loads and it starts but the reports stopped almost immediately. Below > is the output from firefox -debug. Any further ideas greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > knute... -- === Only God can make random selections. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problem Installing VMware Tools in Fedora-9
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 16:11 -0700, Doyle Rhynard wrote: I am having a problem installing VMware Tools in a Fedora-9 VM that I created using the latest version of Workstation-6. I keep getting the error message: "The directory of kernel headers (@@VMWARE@@ UTS RELEASE) does not match your running kernel version (2.6.25-14.fc9.x86_64)" when it tries to patch the kernel. I have installed several previous version of Fedora on VMware and never encountered a problem like this. I checked that fedora-9-x86_64-DVD/Packages/kernel-headers-2.6.25-14.fc9.x86_64rpm file using "rpm -qpl" was what was installed at "/usr/include". I even made a link under "/usr/src/linux/include" to match the directory structure that VMware Tools was expecting, but got the same result. I have seen several messages asking for assistance with Fedora-9 installed with VMware, so it would appear that others have been able to do it successfully. It is quite possible that I have made some unintentional mistake somewhere that I am unable to find. Unfortunately, VMware does not support Fedora because it considers it to be too experimental and unstable, which is probably accurate, especially for version 9, so I cannot ask there. If anyone in Fedora-Land has had a similar experience or has any ideas about how to solve this problem, let me know. You need to run vmware-config.pl (as root). If that doesn't work, Google for vmware-any-any-update117.tar.gz (or anything later than 117), download, untar and run the runme.pl script (again as root). poc As far as I can determine, this is a patch to the Workstation program running on a Linux host and not the Fedora Guest . I am running with a Windows host for which this patch is not applicable. Please tell me if this is incorrect. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: | > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: | > | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: | > | > I cannot figure out how to get thunderbird to send | > | > out email. | > | | > | You could start by explaining what you've tried to do. At the | > | very least | > | you need to configure an SMTP server. | > | > I have the F8-Thunderbird account IMAPed to my SMTP server, | > so I can read/send local email messages to local users. But | > I cannot send email Thurnerbird (IMAP) outbound non-local | > messages. | | IMAP and SMTP are completely and utterly independant of each | other. Just | because you have IMAP set up to read mail, and maybe to post in local | mailboxes, means absolutely nothing to SMTP. You have to set it up | separately. Understood. I was not exactly clear if by using an IMAP client, that messages delivered via IMAP acts as if the message was sent directly via the SMTP server as an authorized user, no different that using an Outlook client - but that may be a wrong assumption so it seems. | > I can use windoes outlook to send/receive local/remote emails | > via the same SMTP server from which this message was sent. | | Then it should be easy. Just copy the SMTP settings from Outlook. OTOH | if Outlook is using an Exchange server then I'm afraid can't help you. Yes, that may be the case. Outlook (not Outlook Express) is connected to the Exchange server from a windows workstation (or server) and it probably already "knows" how to authenicate, thus allows remote delivery (in other words, it was not a relay issue. | > I am trying to figure out why via F8->Thunderbird remote | > outbound email messages are "refused" (Thunderbird give the | > appearance of no errors) - I tried to send a message to | > Fedora-Users but was unable to do so. | | What do you mean "refused"? Is this a pop-up message on your screen, | a returned error email, or what? Is there no indication of why it's | refused? Is it refused by your local server or by a remote server? Are | you using a fully-qualified domain name for the destination | or some kind of local alias? By refused, I mean there is no indication that there was a delivery failure, no pop-ups, nothing. It was totally transparent. It wasn't until I realized that my outbound message to Fedora-User never got there. Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
Craig White wrote: | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: | > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: | > | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: | > | > I cannot figure out how to get thunderbird to send | > | > out email. | > | | > | You could start by explaining what you've tried to do. At the | > | very least | > | you need to configure an SMTP server. | > | > I have the F8-Thunderbird account IMAPed to my SMTP server, | > so I can read/send local email messages to local users. But | > I cannot send email Thurnerbird (IMAP) outbound non-local | > messages. | > | > I can use windoes outlook to send/receive local/remote emails | > via the same SMTP server from which this message was sent. | > | > I am trying to figure out why via F8->Thunderbird remote | > outbound email messages are "refused" (Thunderbird give the | > appearance of no errors) - I tried to send a message to | > Fedora-Users but was unable to do so. | | sounds like you have some relay restrictions on your smtp | server...what is it? Sendmail? Postfix? My main server is Exchange. You do have a point there, that I may have relay restrictions for outbound deliveries but local deliveries work. Ah, I'll have to check this out. Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: PGP signatures.
Tim wrote: On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 11:46 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: It's a basic fact of life that crypto software is complicated for users, and there appear to be fairly fundamental reasons why this is so (see "Why Johnny Can't Encrypt", an interesting paper by a group of Stanford researchers from a few years ago). I've had to set up PGP/GPG for someone, yonks ago, because comprehending any of it was going to be completely beyond them. But we had to be able to exchange some information confidentially, so there was no avoiding using it. Eventually I managed by setting it all up for them, and were able get to the point where I only had to give telephone help for the steps to encrypt or decrypt mail (enter passphrase, which passphrase it was they had to use, which options they had to pick to encrypt, etc.), but I don't think it was ever going to get to the stage of them being able to use it all by themselves. It would have helped if Evolution, for instance, allowed you to set an option in the address book to always encrypt for this person, rather than requiring the user to do an encrypt action choice for every email. I've had that option in other clients. That'd help against accidentally sending things in the clear, at the very least. If you install the Enigmail plugin in ThunderBird, you can configure rules to control encryption options for specific e-mail addresses. It defaults to asking you what to do when it gets an address that does not match any of its rules. (It is all check boxes and drop-down options.) One thing that struck as being particularly painful, since it was email that we were talking about, was the inability to give someone your public key in some way through your mail program. Yes, I know that's not a brilliantly safe way to set things up. But with two PCs next to each other on a LAN, that would have been safe and an easy to do it. The key management option will let you create a key pair, publish a key, get a key from a key server, and import/export a key. For sending keys through the mail, even pgp offered the option to export your public key as an ASCII armored text file that you could include inside the message, or as an attachment. You can then import the key from that file. It is also handy if you want to publish your public key on a web page. Sending/receiving a key using e-mail is not really a security risk if you have a second method of communication so that you can verify that the key is really from you. (Compare the key fingerprints.) You do not need to protect your public key - just make sure the key he gets is really your public key. You had to use the gpg program, separately, to publish your key, or create it as a file. The "mail and encryption are separate things" issue is difficult for many to comprehend, and that's just another thing that will discourage many from using it. Various gpg programs are geared towards using public keyservers as about the only way to exchange keys (or the only obvious way to do it), but that may not be desireable for some. It certainly isn't for me, as I've found using them to be a guaranteed method for receiving spam. Even more so than having your e-mail address on your website, completely unmunged. The GUIs and mail integration has improved drastically from when you had to do everything from the command line. But it was not that hard to create scripts to handle common tasks. For your friend you were exchanging mail with, something like "encrypt " and "decrypt " would probably been enough. Or just encrypt and decrypt if you used the same file names all the time. As I mentioned earlier, someone's obviously monitoring some keyservers, and harvesting addresses from them. Adding another address to the public key instantly results in that address being included in the next volley of spam. Peculiarly, removing some addresses from the key had a similar effect (no more spam being received at those addresses). I didn't expect that to happen. The keyserver I used was: hkp://subkeys.pgp.net Though I'm inclined to suspect the harvesting is not that server, in itself. The keyservers share the key information, so it is hard to say what key server is being monitored. I would not think it would be a good source of addresses to SPAM... But I have seen addresses harvested from places like the Postfix support list. LOL Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: Problems with flash (swf) player and uTube
Antonio M wrote: | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: | > | > I cannot seem to get the player to work | > in Firefox. Please advise? | > | > Thanks- | > Dan | > | what is the reply of about;plugins in Firefox??? Firefox about:plugins reports "everything" is installed, except for mozplugger claiming that it was not even configured. I yum removed this, tried again - no dice. But further testing reveal that MOST SWF files worked - just that some do not. Different versions of SWF are not compatable? ** I was wrong about uTube. It worked as shown below: ** firefox -debug Loading simple Config module ... Creating backend ... Reading pinyin phrase lib failed Loading socket FrontEnd module ... Starting SCIM as daemon ... Reading pinyin phrase lib failed sh: acroread: command not found xEmbed supported in this browser GTK2 supported in this browser *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING: unhandled variable 11 in NPP_GetValue() NewStream: The full URL is http://www.youtube.com/active_sharing.swf Closed 50 files. Starting process: /usr/bin/gtk-gnash -x 83886115 -j 550 -k 115 -u http://www.youtube.com/active_sharing.swf -F 55 -U http://www.youtube.com/ -P bgcolor=#FF -P flashvars=t=Videos being watched right now... -P height=115 -P id=active_sharing -P name=active_sharing -P quality=high -P src=active_sharing.swf -P style= -P type=application/x-shockwave-flash -P width=550 -P wmode=opaque - Forked successfully, child process PID is 27850 Shutting down Child process exited with status 15 plugin instance destruction shutting down input chan 0x8e17618 xEmbed supported in this browser GTK2 supported in this browser *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING: unhandled variable 11 in NPP_GetValue() NewStream: The full URL is http://www.youtube.com/player_dcad.swf Closed 47 files. Starting process: /usr/bin/gtk-gnash -x 83886115 -j 480 -k 385 -u http://www.youtube.com/player_dcad.swf -F 52 -U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVbznctnnH0&feature=dir -P allowfullscreen=true -P allowscriptaccess=always -P bgcolor=#FF -P flashvars=ad_module=true&sourceid=y&video_id=RVbznctnnH0&l=297&fmt_map=&sk=aTD2q6leGcQ0_Ws00X7TmowRGa701XeWC&invideo=true&t=OEgsToPDskI3TApdE5ROyiR6LiQ_Hp7Y&hl=en&plid=AAROd8gceuelODojAAACYADwIAE&vq=null&sdetail=f%3Adir%2Cp%3A/&tk=UbYPRcY2mhlLkuLD1Whki_i-HXoiJ8LqPXKE9BQg1SAGmo0KDFckug==&ad_tag=http://n4061ad.doubleclick.net/pfadx/com.ytpwatch.entertainment/main_1435;sz=480x70;kl=N;!c=1435;kvid=RVbznctnnH0;kpu=RipeTV;ko=p;kpid=1435;kga=-1;kr=A;u=RVbznctnnH0|1435|4556F39DCB679C7D;kgg=-1;&playnext=0&enablejsapi=1 -P height=385 -P id=movie_player -P name=movie_player -P quality=high -P src=/player_dcad.swf -P style= -P type=application/x-shockwave-flash -P width=480 - Forked successfully, child process PID is 27858 NewStream: The full URL is http://www.youtube.com/version-check.swf Closed 48 files. Starting process: /usr/bin/gtk-gnash -x 0 -j 0 -k 0 -u http://www.youtube.com/version-check.swf -F 53 -U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVbznctnnH0&feature=dir -P bgcolor=#FF -P height=0 -P id=checker -P name=checker -P quality=high -P src=/version-check.swf -P style= -P type=application/x-shockwave-flash -P width=0 - Forked successfully, child process PID is 27861 *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING: unhandled variable 11 in NPP_GetValue() (:27858): GStreamer-WARNING **: pad mpegaudioparse0:src returned caps which are not a real subset of its template caps (:27858): GStreamer-WARNING **: pad mpegaudioparse0:src returned caps which are not a real subset of its template caps Shutting down Child process exited with status 15 plugin instance destruction shutting down input chan 0x89c4ed0 Shutting down Child process exited with status 15 plugin instance destruction shutting down input chan 0x89c46e8 ** However, a different test SWF file failed, it does not run - it is blank (in firefox) but works in windoes. ** xEmbed supported in this browser GTK2 supported in this browser NewStream: The full URL is http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Esalsaman/lives/demos/trdream.swf Closed 43 files. Starting process: /usr/bin/gtk-gnash -x 83886115 -j 320 -k 240 -u http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Esalsaman/lives/demos/trdream.swf -F 48 -U http://www.xs4all.nl/~salsaman/lives/swf-test.html -P height=240 -P name=Test -P pluginspage=http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash -P quality=high -P src=http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Esalsaman/lives/demos/trdream.swf -P type=application/x-shockwave-flash -P width=320 - Forked successfully, child process PID is 27928 Is it possible that there are some SWF files that are not playable? For the most part, I guess I was wrong in general - it seems to work for many different SWF versions, but there were some that simply does not work? Thanks- Dan -- fedora-list mailing lis
RE: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 12:33 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > | > I cannot figure out how to get thunderbird to send > | > out email. > | > | You could start by explaining what you've tried to do. At the > | very least > | you need to configure an SMTP server. > > I have the F8-Thunderbird account IMAPed to my SMTP server, > so I can read/send local email messages to local users. But > I cannot send email Thurnerbird (IMAP) outbound non-local > messages. IMAP and SMTP are completely and utterly independant of each other. Just because you have IMAP set up to read mail, and maybe to post in local mailboxes, means absolutely nothing to SMTP. You have to set it up separately. > I can use windoes outlook to send/receive local/remote emails > via the same SMTP server from which this message was sent. Then it should be easy. Just copy the SMTP settings from Outlook. OTOH if Outlook is using an Exchange server then I'm afraid can't help you. > I am trying to figure out why via F8->Thunderbird remote > outbound email messages are "refused" (Thunderbird give the > appearance of no errors) - I tried to send a message to > Fedora-Users but was unable to do so. What do you mean "refused"? Is this a pop-up message on your screen, a returned error email, or what? Is there no indication of why it's refused? Is it refused by your local server or by a remote server? Are you using a fully-qualified domain name for the destination or some kind of local alias? poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 12:33 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > | > I cannot figure out how to get thunderbird to send > | > out email. > | > | You could start by explaining what you've tried to do. At the > | very least > | you need to configure an SMTP server. > > I have the F8-Thunderbird account IMAPed to my SMTP server, > so I can read/send local email messages to local users. But > I cannot send email Thurnerbird (IMAP) outbound non-local > messages. > > I can use windoes outlook to send/receive local/remote emails > via the same SMTP server from which this message was sent. > > I am trying to figure out why via F8->Thunderbird remote > outbound email messages are "refused" (Thunderbird give the > appearance of no errors) - I tried to send a message to > Fedora-Users but was unable to do so. sounds like you have some relay restrictions on your smtp server...what is it? Sendmail? Postfix? Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 12:03 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > I cannot figure out how to get thunderbird to send > out email. > > Please advise? Edit (menu) => Account Settings => Outgoing Server SMTP Select the setup you have and click 'Edit' By default, Thunderbird uses 'authentication' on sending...this can be a problem with some setups. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: | Daniel B. Thurman wrote: | > I cannot figure out how to get thunderbird to send | > out email. | | You could start by explaining what you've tried to do. At the | very least | you need to configure an SMTP server. I have the F8-Thunderbird account IMAPed to my SMTP server, so I can read/send local email messages to local users. But I cannot send email Thurnerbird (IMAP) outbound non-local messages. I can use windoes outlook to send/receive local/remote emails via the same SMTP server from which this message was sent. I am trying to figure out why via F8->Thunderbird remote outbound email messages are "refused" (Thunderbird give the appearance of no errors) - I tried to send a message to Fedora-Users but was unable to do so. Any ideas? Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I cannot figure out how to get thunderbird to send out email. Please advise? Thanks- Dan Did you configure the outgoing mail server settings in Thunderbird? Is it configured correctly for your ISP? If you are using another outgoing mail server besides your ISPs, it can get complicated, because a lot of ISPs block outgoing port 25 connections, so you have to use the SSL option, if the mail server you are trying to connect to supports it. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 tftp broken?!
Christian Schuermann wrote: except one little thing: On my old F8 tftp machine a process called in.tftp was created whenever as soon as the first client connected $ ps -e | grep in.tftp 28827 ?00:00:00 in.tftpd That one is missing on the new F9 machine. Argh! This is too stupid. The client request never came so far, it was blocked by the firewall. I will never ever use guis again[1]. Regards, Chris [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=443411 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
F9 tftp broken?!
Hi there, I just upgraded from F8 but unfortunately I can't convince tftp to do what it is supposed to do. My dhcpd is configured with the next-server option pointing to my new F9 tftp-server. Just like this: # cat /etc/dhcpd.conf [...] next-server 192.168.178.15; filename "pxelinux.0"; [...] When I try to pxeboot one of my clients it gets an ip address from the dhcp-server but fails to fetch the pxelinux.0 file. After a few seconds it runs into a timeout PXE-E32: TFTP open timeout On the tftp machine everything seems fine # netstat -an | grep :69 udp0 0 0.0.0.0:69 0.0.0.0:* except one little thing: On my old F8 tftp machine a process called in.tftp was created whenever as soon as the first client connected $ ps -e | grep in.tftp 28827 ?00:00:00 in.tftpd That one is missing on the new F9 machine. There are a few things in bugzilla concerning tftp but nothing that really helps me here. I recently upgraded to tftp-server-0.48-6.fc9.i386 but this didn't help either. Any ideas? Should I bugzilla? Regards, Chris -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems with flash (swf) player and uTube
2008/5/30 Daniel B. Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I cannot seem to get the player to work > in Firefox. Please advise? > > Thanks- > Dan > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > what is the reply of about;plugins in Firefox??? -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 12:03 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > I cannot figure out how to get thunderbird to send > out email. You could start by explaining what you've tried to do. At the very least you need to configure an SMTP server. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
Did you set up an account ? If yes, it might be an ISP problem On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Daniel B. Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I cannot figure out how to get thunderbird to send > out email. > > Please advise? > > Thanks- > Dan > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > -- "Be the change you want to see in the world !" Mahatma Gandhi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9 + Network Manager = Wireless NOT Connecting
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 13:46 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > The NM developers suffer from the delusion > that NM always works. Of course it always works. Says so right here in the man page :-) poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problem Installing VMware Tools in Fedora-9
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 16:11 -0700, Doyle Rhynard wrote: > I am having a problem installing VMware Tools in a Fedora-9 VM that I > created using the latest version of Workstation-6. I keep getting the > error message: "The directory of kernel headers (@@VMWARE@@ UTS RELEASE) > does not match your running kernel version (2.6.25-14.fc9.x86_64)" when > it tries to patch the kernel. I have installed several previous version > of Fedora on VMware and never encountered a problem like this. > > I checked that > fedora-9-x86_64-DVD/Packages/kernel-headers-2.6.25-14.fc9.x86_64rpm file > using "rpm -qpl" was what was installed at "/usr/include". I even made a > link under "/usr/src/linux/include" to match the directory structure > that VMware Tools was expecting, but got the same result. > > I have seen several messages asking for assistance with Fedora-9 > installed with VMware, so it would appear that others have been able to > do it successfully. It is quite possible that I have made some > unintentional mistake somewhere that I am unable to find. > > Unfortunately, VMware does not support Fedora because it considers it to > be too experimental and unstable, which is probably accurate, especially > for version 9, so I cannot ask there. If anyone in Fedora-Land has had a > similar experience or has any ideas about how to solve this problem, let > me know. You need to run vmware-config.pl (as root). If that doesn't work, Google for vmware-any-any-update117.tar.gz (or anything later than 117), download, untar and run the runme.pl script (again as root). poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Thunderbird: Cannot send email but can read emails
I cannot figure out how to get thunderbird to send out email. Please advise? Thanks- Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Problems with flash (swf) player and uTube
I cannot seem to get the player to work in Firefox. Please advise? Thanks- Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why!! does End Session default to Runlevel 3
Jim wrote: > FC8/KDE > When I do a End Session it doesn't drop to the Login Window, it goes to > Runlevel 3 (shell) > I have this problem on three FC8 boxes. And it's very annoying when you > have more that one user on a box. kde certainly doesn't do that here for me. Maybe X is crashing on logout? -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: nvidia drivers now available from livna - has anyone tried?
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 12:17 -0400, Eric Mesa wrote: > > So I have two questions: > 1) Has anyone tried this? Does it in fact work with Fedora 9's > pre-release Xorg 7.4? I don't use Compiz, but I do use 3D > acceleration for games and Blender > I'm using the 64-bit drivers with no major problems (see previous email that dpms does not seem to work though). I ran some of the GL screensavers, and glxgears and they all ran fine. > 2) If I were to go the preupgrade route, do I first install the livna > Fedora 9 repo package and then preupgrade? (I have some other livna > packages installed) Do I preupgrade and then install the latest livna > repo package? Does preupgrade fail with this type of situation? > Should I just do yum upgrade again? > Absolutely no idea :-) John. -- --- John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: PGP signatures.
Tim wrote: > It would have helped if Evolution, for instance, allowed you to set > an option in the address book to always encrypt for this person, > rather than requiring the user to do an encrypt action choice for > every email. I've had that option in other clients. That'd help > against accidentally sending things in the clear, at the very least. I think there are numerous deficiencies in Evolution then. I believe Kmail has better gpg integration (and probably Thunderbird also). I'm not sure if the Evolution developers have strong crypto support as much of a goal. (FWIW, I don't use any of them regularly myself. I've been a happy mutt user for years now. :) > One thing that struck as being particularly painful, since it was > email that we were talking about, was the inability to give someone > your public key in some way through your mail program. Yes, I know > that's not a brilliantly safe way to set things up. But with two > PCs next to each other on a LAN, that would have been safe and an > easy to do it. There's actually nothing wrong with trading keys via email. And any good mail client should make it easy to import and export keys this way. I know mutt does (and has for as long as I've used it). I believe that Kmail does as well. The important thing, no matter how you receive a key, is to properly verify it. For me, this means either: Exchanging the key info (fingerprint, size, and type) via some means other than email or internet. Typically, it'd be a phone call or in person meeting. or Having the key already signed by someone I trust. But how you get the key itself isn't at all important and doing so via email is as secure as downloading the key from a keyserver. > You had to use the gpg program, separately, to publish your key, or > create it as a file. The "mail and encryption are separate things" > issue is difficult for many to comprehend, and that's just another > thing that will discourage many from using it. If this is made an issue, then you're using a mail client that does not care about decent gpg integration AFAIAC. > As I mentioned earlier, someone's obviously monitoring some > keyservers, and harvesting addresses from them. I never noticed an increase in spam when I added my keys, and they've been there for a long time. Further, some of the addresses I had on my keys never got any spam. Of course, I'm not trying to deny that your experience isn't accurate, just saying that it doesn't seem to be unilaterally true. But either way, losing the convenience of the public keyserver isn't worth stopping a little spam IMO. I do next to nothing to obscure my email address anymore. Instead, I rely on SpamAssassin to quell the flow of spam that comes to me. That's preferable to me than trying to hide my address in all the places it might be convenient to expose it. But to each his own. :) > Peculiarly, removing some addresses from the key had a similar > effect (no more spam being received at those addresses). I didn't > expect that to happen. That is indeed quite odd. ;) > The keyserver I used was: hkp://subkeys.pgp.net Though I'm > inclined to suspect the harvesting is not that server, in itself. Yeah, since most of the keyservers sync with each other, it could be any of them. Hell, a spammer could even run one if they wanted to. But I suspect there are better ways to get addresses. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you wont either. -- Joseph Fischer pgpnlGKIBa3kO.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: nvidia drivers now available from livna - has anyone tried?
1. I'm currently running Fedora 9 using Livna nvidia drivers and my games work all right. (etqw) KDE's desktop effects work ok too but I don't use them. :) 2. I am pretty sure that preupgrade method is not worth trying at the moment. I did it at first. It was crash-ill but everything went smoothly to the point that it had everything installed. My problems started when anaconda told me to reboot. Fedora9 didn't boot because it couldn't find hard drives. I had also other problems with it. I don't suggest that way exept for testing what's it a like in future. And to send suggestions of course. I didn't install livna-repo-f9 package since I thought that preupgrade/anaconda will be smart enought to update configs too. So that I can install it later and then upgrade those packages. I suggest yum upgrade if you don't want to do clean install or download fedora9 dvd for the sake of upgrading. -- Antti Aspinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Why!! does End Session default to Runlevel 3
FC8/KDE When I do a End Session it doesn't drop to the Login Window, it goes to Runlevel 3 (shell) I have this problem on three FC8 boxes. And it's very annoying when you have more that one user on a box. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: gecko-mediaplayer?
Knute Johnson wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Try removing mozplugger. I don't have it and am not sure it's necessary (plus it's apparently not configured correctly). Since it's at the top of the plugin list it might be interfering with gecko-mediaplayer. poc Thanks, I'll try that. I removed mozplugger and I'm closer but not working yet. The player loads and it starts but the reports stopped almost immediately. Below is the output from firefox -debug. Any further ideas greatly appreciated. Thanks, knute... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ firefox -debug DBUS connection created Listening to path /control/59883 ARG: type = application/x-mplayer2 ARG: name = MediaPlayer1 ARG: src = ARG: id = Player ARG: autostart = 1 ARG: showcontrols = 0 ARG: height = 240 ARG: width = 320 JS playState issued DBUS connection created Listening to path /control/43998 ARG: type = application/x-mplayer2 ARG: pluginspage = http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/MediaPlayer/ ARG: name = MediaPlayer1 ARG: uimode = mini ARG: src = http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/streaming_new/genasx.php?ua=e18c0fbf628f42982fe784bd256fcb52 ARG: url = http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/streaming_new/genasx.php?ua=e18c0fbf628f42982fe784bd256fcb52 ARG: animationatstart = false ARG: transparentatstart = true ARG: autostart = 1 ARG: showcontrols = 1 ARG: showstatusbar = 1 ARG: height = 64 ARG: width = 300 opening /tmp/geckofNDJbP for localcache Entering list_parse_qt localsize = 933 unable to find rmda in /tmp/geckofNDJbP Entering list_parse_asx localsize = 933 Item src = http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/streaming_new/genasx.php?ua=e18c0fbf628f42982fe784bd256fcb52 local = /tmp/geckofNDJbP id = 1 play = 0 path = controlid = 0 playerready = 0 newwindow = 0 cancelled = 0 streaming = 0 loop = 0 loopcount = 0 Item src = mms://a464.l1977112463.c19771.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/464/19771/v0001/reflector:12463?auth=caEdOdTaocKcDcedQbUcUahb.aVaSbgcoce-biqdLT-4q-LO2V4_7puFEqo2ICtjCsyp&aifp=1234&CPROG=SIMULCAST&MARKET=LOSANGELES-CA&MNM=1&NG_FORMAT=talk&NG_ID=kfi640am&OR_NEWSFORMAT=&REQUESTOR=KFI-AM&SERVER_NAME=wwwkfi640com&SITE_ID=616&STATION_ID=KFI-AM local = id = 100 play = 1 path = controlid = 0 playerready = 0 newwindow = 0 cancelled = 0 streaming = 1 loop = 0 loopcount = 0 Item src = mms://a465.l1977112464.c19771.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/465/19771/v0001/reflector:12464?auth=caEbSadbIaAa9c7bFaFbPbvd6b8b7ccaBdy-biqdLT-4q-PL0W4_7nmFJon1DBokwuEq&aifp=1234&CPROG=SIMULCAST&MARKET=LOSANGELES-CA&MNM=1&NG_FORMAT=talk&NG_ID=kfi640am&OR_NEWSFORMAT=&REQUESTOR=KFI-AM&SERVER_NAME=wwwkfi640com&SITE_ID=616&STATION_ID=KFI-AM local = id = 100 play = 1 path = controlid = 0 playerready = 0 newwindow = 0 cancelled = 0 streaming = 1 loop = 0 loopcount = 0 Exiting list_parse_asx Entering list_parse_qml localsize = 933 Item src = http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/streaming_new/genasx.php?ua=e18c0fbf628f42982fe784bd256fcb52 local = /tmp/geckofNDJbP id = 1 play = 0 path = controlid = 0 playerready = 0 newwindow = 0 cancelled = 0 streaming = 0 loop = 0 loopcount = 0 Item src = mms://a464.l1977112463.c19771.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/464/19771/v0001/reflector:12463?auth=caEdOdTaocKcDcedQbUcUahb.aVaSbgcoce-biqdLT-4q-LO2V4_7puFEqo2ICtjCsyp&aifp=1234&CPROG=SIMULCAST&MARKET=LOSANGELES-CA&MNM=1&NG_FORMAT=talk&NG_ID=kfi640am&OR_NEWSFORMAT=&REQUESTOR=KFI-AM&SERVER_NAME=wwwkfi640com&SITE_ID=616&STATION_ID=KFI-AM local = id = 100 play = 1 path = controlid = 0 playerready = 0 newwindow = 0 cancelled = 0 streaming = 1 loop = 0 loopcount = 0 Item src = mms://a465.l1977112464.c19771.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/465/19771/v0001/reflector:12464?auth=caEbSadbIaAa9c7bFaFbPbvd6b8b7ccaBdy-biqdLT-4q-PL0W4_7nmFJon1DBokwuEq&aifp=1234&CPROG=SIMULCAST&MARKET=LOSANGELES-CA&MNM=1&NG_FORMAT=talk&NG_ID=kfi640am&OR_NEWSFORMAT=&REQUESTOR=KFI-AM&SERVER_NAME=wwwkfi640com&SITE_ID=616&STATION_ID=KFI-AM local = id = 100 play = 1 path = controlid = 0 playerready = 0 newwindow = 0 cancelled = 0 streaming = 1 loop = 0 loopcount = 0 Exiting list_parse_qml Exiting destroy stream reason = 1 for http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/streaming_new/genasx.php?ua=e18c0fbf628f42982fe784bd256fcb52 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F8 -> F9 horror
Arthur Pemberton wrote: 2008/5/30 scm in seattle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Surely you can, in some manner... as I replied much earlier, I had by mistake enabled the Rawhide development repository. yum can only do what you asked/told it to do. If you enable the rawhide or testing repos and there's newer stuff in there, well... I suppose you could have had a yum plugin like "protectbase" active and put in things that specify ".fc8" only. The scary thing is that the normal/typical update manager found these packages and proceeded to 'upgrade' my system. In effect I went from F8 to F10 in a blink of 500mb... and of course it doesn't work. How is that scary? Isn't the update manager supposed to the most recent packages available to it? One could install the "allowdowngrade" plugin and downgrade that way. I've never used it, but it may be a way out of the current conundrum. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - Hosting Consulting, Inc. - -- - Heisenberg _may_ have slept here - -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: PGP signatures.
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 11:46 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > It's a basic fact of life that crypto software is complicated for > users, and there appear to be fairly fundamental reasons why this is > so (see "Why Johnny Can't Encrypt", an interesting paper by a group of > Stanford researchers from a few years ago). I've had to set up PGP/GPG for someone, yonks ago, because comprehending any of it was going to be completely beyond them. But we had to be able to exchange some information confidentially, so there was no avoiding using it. Eventually I managed by setting it all up for them, and were able get to the point where I only had to give telephone help for the steps to encrypt or decrypt mail (enter passphrase, which passphrase it was they had to use, which options they had to pick to encrypt, etc.), but I don't think it was ever going to get to the stage of them being able to use it all by themselves. It would have helped if Evolution, for instance, allowed you to set an option in the address book to always encrypt for this person, rather than requiring the user to do an encrypt action choice for every email. I've had that option in other clients. That'd help against accidentally sending things in the clear, at the very least. One thing that struck as being particularly painful, since it was email that we were talking about, was the inability to give someone your public key in some way through your mail program. Yes, I know that's not a brilliantly safe way to set things up. But with two PCs next to each other on a LAN, that would have been safe and an easy to do it. You had to use the gpg program, separately, to publish your key, or create it as a file. The "mail and encryption are separate things" issue is difficult for many to comprehend, and that's just another thing that will discourage many from using it. Various gpg programs are geared towards using public keyservers as about the only way to exchange keys (or the only obvious way to do it), but that may not be desireable for some. It certainly isn't for me, as I've found using them to be a guaranteed method for receiving spam. Even more so than having your e-mail address on your website, completely unmunged. As I mentioned earlier, someone's obviously monitoring some keyservers, and harvesting addresses from them. Adding another address to the public key instantly results in that address being included in the next volley of spam. Peculiarly, removing some addresses from the key had a similar effect (no more spam being received at those addresses). I didn't expect that to happen. The keyserver I used was: hkp://subkeys.pgp.net Though I'm inclined to suspect the harvesting is not that server, in itself. -- Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
rsyslog vs sysklogd
I upgraded my system from F7 to F9 using preupgrade. I have since found out that sysklogd was replaced by rsyslog in f8 but my updated f9 system still has the fc7 sysklogd package installed. Is this a bug in preupgrade or is it intentional? Also is it OK for me to do: # rpm -nodeps sysklogd # yum install rsyslog without totally mangling the system? Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F7 -> F9 preupgrade problems. Can't start X
Jonathan Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks. > > I tried system-config-display and it didn't help, but I did it > remotely. This is my office computer, which I almost never use except > as a (very busy) web server. I manage it by connecting from > elsewhere, including my laptop, which I use even at work. So I tried > system-config-display through vnc (which worked). I'll try again the > next time I'm in front of it. Meanwhile, we can see what comes of my > bug report. I'll let you know if I learn anything useful. But I > suspect it is a bug and will eventually get fixed. Until I read your > post, I thought my video card had died. > There are definitely bugs associated with display setup. When I tried to set up my second monitor using the GUI (System->Administration->Display), it just sits there when you hit the OK button; the GUI never updates anything. Several people have reported this. I have also tried an xorg.conf file that crashed setroubleshootd!!! No answers on that one either. Something else you might want to try is to remove your xorg.conf file (rename it) and then reboot. The new X server is supposed to be able to determine what configuration it needs by looking at your hardware. > Jon > > On 05/30/08 12:46, Steve wrote: > > > > Jonathan Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Oh. Interesting. > > > > > What I was going to ask you was whether you ever got it working. I > > > have exactly the same problem. > > > > Sort of... I logged in as root at a text console and ran > > system-config-display and > > that got me one screen working (I have a dual monitor setup). I don't have > > the > > second monitor working and I'm not getting any replies form the list. I'm > > going to > > have to experiment some more. > > > > Steve. > > -- > Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania > Home page: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~baron > Editor: Judgment and Decision Making (http://journal.sjdm.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: cups fc8 pkg dependency gumming the works
Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Okay. Give some more details. > > yum list cups fedora-release > > yum repolist > > cat /var/cache/yum/updates/mirrorlist.txt > > Note that you need to run "yum clean metadata" as root. > It still looks like you have a Fedora 8 updates repository > enabled somewhere in /etc/yum* > > You don't see the 1.3.7-2.fc9 update yet, which is an indication > that the Fedora 9 updates repository is missing. > You were right; I thought I updated the .repo files correctly, but when I ran 'yum repolist' it indicated this wasn't the case; I forgot to update the mirrorlist= entries as well. Things seem to be working now; I am now pulling in nearly 250 updated packages. Thanks. - Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/F9%3A-cups-fc8-pkg-dependency-gumming-the-works-tp17459413p17563879.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Problem Installing VMware Tools in Fedora-9
I am having a problem installing VMware Tools in a Fedora-9 VM that I created using the latest version of Workstation-6. I keep getting the error message: "The directory of kernel headers (@@VMWARE@@ UTS RELEASE) does not match your running kernel version (2.6.25-14.fc9.x86_64)" when it tries to patch the kernel. I have installed several previous version of Fedora on VMware and never encountered a problem like this. I checked that fedora-9-x86_64-DVD/Packages/kernel-headers-2.6.25-14.fc9.x86_64rpm file using "rpm -qpl" was what was installed at "/usr/include". I even made a link under "/usr/src/linux/include" to match the directory structure that VMware Tools was expecting, but got the same result. I have seen several messages asking for assistance with Fedora-9 installed with VMware, so it would appear that others have been able to do it successfully. It is quite possible that I have made some unintentional mistake somewhere that I am unable to find. Unfortunately, VMware does not support Fedora because it considers it to be too experimental and unstable, which is probably accurate, especially for version 9, so I cannot ask there. If anyone in Fedora-Land has had a similar experience or has any ideas about how to solve this problem, let me know. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F8 -> F9 horror
2008/5/30 scm in seattle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Surely you can, in some manner... as I replied much earlier, I had by > mistake enabled the Rawhide development repository. > > The scary thing is that the normal/typical update manager found these > packages and proceeded to 'upgrade' my system. In effect I went from F8 to > F10 in a blink of 500mb... and of course it doesn't work. How is that scary? Isn't the update manager supposed to the most recent packages available to it? -- Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Mono sound only, PulseAudio and Fedora 9... or "where's system-config-sound?"
Hi! I've now upgraded to Fedora 9. I'm using KDE as a desktop now. My Udev problem still exists but I can live with that. (I guess it's related to my motherboard which is Asus A8V Deluxe which comes with wlan.) But my current problem is something I cannot live with. I have sound problems. I cannot get sound at all or I can just get mono output in some programs. I know that first audio problem is because I cannot set my system default soundcard. That's because system-config-sound has been removed from the fedora 9. I have two different soundcards. Another one is onboard ac97 card (VIA 8237) I have disabled from BIOS and which doesn't show up in Windows. It always shows up in Gnu/Linux installations thought and in Fedora I've usually just disabled or placed it as "second in order" soundcard using system-config-sound. I am able to get mono sound output from PulseAudio in some programs if I set my other soundcard (esi's juli@) as default device using PulseAudio Volume Control. But it won't hold that setting if I logout or reboot. Ok. How do I set my ICE1724 as a default sound device or so called 0 soundcard for whole system. And how do I get stereo sound from my card? I guess it's related to volume levels but I cannot change those things from anywhere. I tried using google but nothing useful showed up. Thanks. -- Antti Aspinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9/KDE 4 'non kde app' -work around
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 19:23 -0700, charles f. zeitler wrote: > --- John Minson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > - > This link does not address what I'm trying to do. > > I create a bash script that runs /some/dir/XYZ.sh . I used to be ableto add > an arbitrary icon to > my panel that invokes it .I can in factopen the file manager and drag > /some/dir/XYZ.sh into the > panel but Icannot modify the icon representing it. > > > > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 10:54 -0400, John Minson wrote: > > On all earlier versions of Fedora/kde I was able to add a 'non kde app' and > give it any icon I > wanted . I suspect I still can but the mechanism obviously is different on > Fedora 9/KDE 4 .Any > quick pointers ? > > > can't say it's pretty- > > > K/Applications/Settings/Menu Editor > create a menu item for /some/dir/XYZ.sh ( with yer choice of icons ) > right click on new menu item, add to panel. > you should now be able to change the icon... OT: I can't figure out from message who said what. The quoting mechanism in your mailer seems to be broken. (Note that if the message is also in HTML a lot of us are only reading the plain text version.) poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: [Dovecot] Problem deleting folders with Thunderbird?
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 21:43 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote: > Michal Soltys wrote: > > Scott Silva wrote: > >> You need to clear that checkbox with mbox storage for sure. It might > >> be OK if you are using Maildir. > >> > > > > It works perfectly fine with Maildir. > > So folders in folders works with Maildir? If you mean nested folders, then yes. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: USB Install Method?
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 20:42 -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 17:39 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 12:58 -0700, Sean Bruno wrote: > > > According the docs, there is a procedure for installing from a USB > > > stick, but "Procedure 3.2 Creating Bootable USB Media from Linux" > > > appears to be blank? > > > > > > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f9/en_US/sn-making-media.html#id543953 > > > > The headings are screwed up. The Windows instructions are in the first > > section, followed by the Linux instructions under the heading "Procedure > > 3.1: Creating Bootable USB Media with Windows". The section entitled > > "Procedure 3.2. Creating Bootable USB Media with Linux" is blank. > > > > poc > > > > Ok, so using the information from Patrick I was able to use > "livecd-iso-to-disk" to turn the "boot.iso" file into a bootable USB > stick. > > However, livecd-iso-to-disk requires a vfat or ext2-3 f/s. Do I had to > run mkfs on the thumb drive first. The guide is written for people with a working thumb drive (hence the comment about the process not deleting your existing data). Also, most if not all thumbdrives are preformatted. Still, it would be worth adding the comment. Anyone know how to use Bugzilla to report documentation bugs? poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: problem with totem
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 13:06 +0930, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 17:44 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > The Fedora version works for me (including with commercial DVDs). > > I never got very far with it. But "commercial DVDs" isn't a very > precise definition. For instance, some commercial discs are encrypted, > while others are not. I meant encrypted ones (i.e. nearly all of them). poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
nvidia drivers now available from livna - has anyone tried?
Up until now I've been holding back from upgrading to F9 (from F8) because of the lack of nvidia drivers. My dual-head setup works just fine and I didn't want to muck about in xorg.conf to fix it up until the new nvidia driver became available. So every day I've been trawling the net for news of Xorg 7.4 to come out or an nvidia driver to be released. On the Xorg front, the news is not good. They've changed their release date from May 2008 to 2008. Yeah But I did come upon this linuxquestions.org thread ( http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/fedora-9-nvidia-problem-642024/page2.html) where, near the bottom they mention that livna now has drivers. I checked, and they do. http://livna-dl.reloumirrors.net/fedora/9/i386/ So I have two questions: 1) Has anyone tried this? Does it in fact work with Fedora 9's pre-release Xorg 7.4? I don't use Compiz, but I do use 3D acceleration for games and Blender 2) If I were to go the preupgrade route, do I first install the livna Fedora 9 repo package and then preupgrade? (I have some other livna packages installed) Do I preupgrade and then install the latest livna repo package? Does preupgrade fail with this type of situation? Should I just do yum upgrade again? Thanks! -- Eric Mesa http://www.ericsbinaryworld.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: PGP signatures.
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 13:04 +0930, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 15:23 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > Let me share that to me the whole discussion of PGP signatures was > > very unenlightening. I have no idea how to sign e-mail or validate a > > pgp signed e-mail All the discussion seemed to me to be aimed at > > people who knew all about this. > > Before you can make use of pgp in mail, you have to get pgp working. > After you've made your own keys, the next thing you'll need is the other > party's keys. You've got to be able to manage getting them in some way. > > *Then* you can move on to actually using them. Though there's probably > a "understanding how the scheme works" process that you need to go > through, first, judging by your comments. > > Start with the documentation, that's where most of the rest of us > started, and you're less likely to get given a bum steer by it. It's a basic fact of life that crypto software is complicated for users, and there appear to be fairly fundamental reasons why this is so (see "Why Johnny Can't Encrypt", an interesting paper by a group of Stanford researchers from a few years ago). You have to understand what a key is, why it's not the same as a password, what it means to sign a message etc. etc. Phil Zimmerman's book on PGP is a pretty good publication :-), or just read one of the many online guides to get started. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: updating USB flash drive MBR to allow boot
> Hi > I hae a Kingston Data Traveller USB flash drive (8GB) which for some > reason > I cannot make a bootable USB drive. > > Googling around I came up with this information: > > > -Some USB flash drives are notorious for having problems with corrupted > master boot records. > Credit goes to BHSPitMonkey for pointing out this fix. The troubled drive > encountered > was a Kingston Data Traveler 2GB unit- > > I think this makes my unit highly suspect. > > The solution in Ubuntu was > > we will install the mbr package and use it to create the new mbr on the > USB > flash drive > > > 1. Type *sudo apt-get install mbr* > 2. Type *fdisk -l* to find out which device is your flash drive > 3. Type *install-mbr /dev/sdx* (replacing x with your flash device) > > My question is how do we do this with Fedora? > I already tried out the install-live-to-usb thingy and it did not work. > > In fact the section in installing the mbr is blank at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo FWIW, I installed F8 on my laptop, with a USB stick as /boot. I had plenty of issues if I told the installation to install grub to the MBR. Instead, I wound up having it installed into the /boot partition, instead, and it worked just fine. IOW, *my* suggestion is to not use the MBR on the USB stick, at all. YMMV. -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II BBS telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org To be notified of updates to the web site, visit: https://www.bubbanfriends.org/mailman/listinfo/site-update or send a blank email message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: USB Install Method?
> Ok, so using the information from Patrick I was able to use > "livecd-iso-to-disk" to turn the "boot.iso" file into a bootable USB > stick. > > However, livecd-iso-to-disk requires a vfat or ext2-3 f/s. Do I had to > run mkfs on the thumb drive first. I'm assuming that you're asking. If so, then no, you shouldn't have to run mkfs on the thumb drive...the thumb drive (like most removable RAM media...sd cards, compact flash, etc) is preformated as FAT16 or FAT32, which, in the Linux world, is "vfat". -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II BBS telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org To be notified of updates to the web site, visit: https://www.bubbanfriends.org/mailman/listinfo/site-update or send a blank email message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Program killed as soon as it starts to run
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:35 PM, egbirgin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, ok, if your problem is very large then algencan will use a lot of > memory. However, if your problem is small, you can very easily solve it using > algencan. > > Just go to the file sources/algencan/dim.par and, with care, remove a couple > of zeros from mmax, nmax, jcnnzmax, hnnzmax and nwma27. > > The current version of dim.par looks like > > C PARAMETERS > > integer mmax,nmax,nsmax,nwma27,hnnzmax,jcnnzmax > > parameter ( mmax = 50 ) > parameter ( nmax = 50 ) > parameter ( jcnnzmax = 1000 ) > parameter ( hnnzmax = 1000 ) > parameter ( nwma27= 1000 ) > parameter ( nsmax = 1000 ) > > Your modified version should looks like > > C PARAMETERS > > integer mmax,nmax,nsmax,nwma27,hnnzmax,jcnnzmax > > parameter ( mmax = 5000 ) > parameter ( nmax = 5000 ) > parameter ( jcnnzmax = 10 ) > parameter ( hnnzmax = 10 ) > parameter ( nwma27= 10 ) > parameter ( nsmax = 1000 ) > > After doing this modification, compile and run again. Everything will work > fine. (Fortran 77 has no dynamic memory allocation.) Thanks, Ernesto, but the problem was NOT solved after having applied the suggested changes in dim.par: $ ./algencan Killed [EMAIL PROTECTED] fortran]$ dir -l algencan -rwxrwxr-x 1 psmith psmith 169468 2008-05-30 16:38 algencan $ The optimization problem is the toyprob one. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to find WEP/WPA key to network if possible
> Mike Burger wrote: >>> --- "Kevin J. Cummings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: > >>> That's what some teachers got to do after the Network >>> became encrypted. They took their computers to the >>> Administrator and he put the key in for them and they >>> are happily surfing. Other teachers that seldom use >>> their laptops, brought it to school only to find out >>> that they cannot use the wireless network because it >>> has a new key that they need to put in to be able to >>> use it. This happened without warning and some of my >>> colleagues are mad. I do not know what to tell them. >>> I wish I knew more about wireless networking. >> >> While I sympathize with their plight, in this regard, I do have note >> that >> were I the networking supervisor, my sympathy would be limited. >> >> I imagine that this person would have sent out numerous notices that >> they >> would be implementing wireless encryption before doing so...as would be >> standard practice (I could be wrong...this person may not have done so, >> but I doubt that to be the case). >> > > Given that a responsible person would have left important passwords with > someone who wasn't away on holiday this might not be the case. All too potentially true. But then, again, if common sense were truly common, everyone would have it. ;-) -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II BBS telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org To be notified of updates to the web site, visit: https://www.bubbanfriends.org/mailman/listinfo/site-update or send a blank email message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9/KDE 4 'non kde app'
What if all I want is an icon/shortcut that calls a shell script or command? There's no "application" or "package" to open against, nor should it be necessary. > John Minson spawar.navy.mil> writes: >> On all earlier versions of Fedora/kde I was able to add a 'non kde app' >> and give it any icon I wanted . I suspect I still can but the mechanism >> obviously is different on Fedora 9/KDE 4 . >> Any quick pointers ? > > Surely the right solution is that the app itself should be registering in > the > menus on its own! > > If the app is a Fedora package, file a bug against the package for the > missing .desktop file, which is required according to: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#Desktop_files > > If it is a third-party application, complain to wherever you got the > application from. > > If it is your own application, have a look at xdg-desktop-menu, or package > it > as an RPM and have a look at the packaging guidelines as quoted above. > > Kevin Kofler > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II BBS telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org To be notified of updates to the web site, visit: https://www.bubbanfriends.org/mailman/listinfo/site-update or send a blank email message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: gecko-mediaplayer?
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 18:05 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote: > I installed F9 and was trying to listen to my favorite radio station > but I couldn't find mplayerplug-in. Some of you said to get > gecko-mediaplayer instead. I downloaded it with no problems and it > shows up in the plugins list but it doesn't work. There is also a > Mozplugger at the top that appears not to be configured properly. > > > MozPlugger 1.10.1 handles QuickTime and Windows Media Player Plugin > File name: nswrapper_32_32.mozplugger.so > MozPlugger version 1.10.1, written by Fredrik Hübinette, Louis > Bavoil and Peter Leese. > For documentation on how to configure mozplugger, check the > man page. (type man mozplugger) > Configuration file: > Not found! > Helper binary: > Not found! > Controller binary: > Not found! > It lists al the mime types below this and they are all enabled. Any > ideas where to start trying to figure out why it doesn't work? > > Thanks, > > knute... Using mozplugger or mozpluggerrc is a completely different way to get your firefox to recognize file-types than using plugins in: /usr/lib/mozilla/pluggins or /usr/lib/firefox.../plugins or for that matter using Firefox:Edit->Preferences->Content-> Manage These alternate ways to accomplish the same thing is one of the confusing things about firefox. -- === I had pancake makeup for brunch! === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F8 -> F9 horror
Sam, My script is simpler - insert DVD, restart, follow the prompts So much changed that it would be and exercise in futility to try undo the mess. But thanks for the inspiration! Sam Varshavchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, this is an excellent opportunity for you to learn how to recover a bolloxed upgrade job, yourself. Good luck. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: updating USB flash drive MBR to allow boot
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Bill Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/5/30 Javier Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > heads/cylinder 16 (FAT) != 247 (HD) > > sect/track 32 (FAT) != 62 (HD) > > Current partition structure: > > Warning: Incorrect number of heads/cylinder 16 (FAT) != 247 (HD) > > Warning: Incorrect number of sectors per track 32 (FAT) != 62 (HD) > > 1 * FAT32 LBA0 0 33 1021 179 28 15646688 [LITTLE > OWL] > > I see similar mismatches with a 'phone memory card. Could you try > opening in fdisk and toggling the "dos compatability" flag? > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > I don't think I can do that anymore. I "fixed" the heads/cylinder and the sectors per track and reformated the drive. At home it did boot, but at my computer at work it does not want to do boot. Anyway, as soon as i get home I will try to assert the dos compatibility flag, just in case. but it is no longer the same system. JP -- -- /\_/\ |O O| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Javier Perez While the night runs toward the day... m m Pepebuho watches from his high perch. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F8 -> F9 horror
Surely you can, in some manner... as I replied much earlier, I had by mistake enabled the Rawhide development repository. The scary thing is that the normal/typical update manager found these packages and proceeded to 'upgrade' my system. In effect I went from F8 to F10 in a blink of 500mb... and of course it doesn't work. So yes my title is incorrect, the horror is not. Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: scm in seattle wrote: > No I did not read the release notes because... I was NOT intending to > upgrade to F9! I did accept the updates that the update notifier prompted > for me to accept. Surely you cannot upgrade to Fedora-9 by mistake? If in fact you have not upgraded to Fedora-9 why call your posting "F8->F9 horror". -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: [OT] shell variable assignment problemn
On Fri, 30 May 2008 15:55:57 +0100, Luciano Rocha wrote:
> Use this:
> ...
> eval DRIVE${i}="$(echo $DISKS | cut -d ' ' -f ${i})"
>
>
>
>
EVAL !!!
Inserted in my DON'T FORGET mental list (though I got NO SPACE LEFT ON
DEVICE... need to upgrade my brain... ;-)
Thanks!!!
I will also keep in mynd the array alternative...
Gianluca
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Re: [OT] shell variable assignment problemn
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 04:39:48PM +0200, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> Problem I'm able to understand:
> Suppose I have
> $NUMDISKS that can be 1 or 2 ... or n
> and
> $DISKS that can be
> sda, or
> sda sdb
> or sda sdb sdc
> (so a string with the didks separated by space)
Personally, I'd go with arrays:
declare -a drives
drives=($disks)
eg:
$ disks="sda sdb sdc"
$ drives=($disks)
$ echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3
$ echo ${drives[2]}
sdc
$ for d in [EMAIL PROTECTED]; do echo /dev/$d; done
/dev/sda
/dev/sdb
/dev/sdc
> if I script
>
> for i in $(seq 1 $NUMDISKS)
> do
> DRIVE${i}="$(echo $DISKS | cut -d ' ' -f ${i})"
> done
>
Use this:
...
eval DRIVE${i}="$(echo $DISKS | cut -d ' ' -f ${i})"
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[OT] shell variable assignment problemn
Problem I'm able to understand:
Suppose I have
$NUMDISKS that can be 1 or 2 ... or n
and
$DISKS that can be
sda, or
sda sdb
or sda sdb sdc
(so a string with the didks separated by space)
I want to assign
DRIVE1=sda
DRIVE2=sdb
...
DRIVEN=sdn
if I script
for i in $(seq 1 $NUMDISKS)
do
DRIVE${i}="$(echo $DISKS | cut -d ' ' -f ${i})"
done
I get this error through assignment:
DRIVE1=sda: command not found
Instead if the disk env variable is cciss/c0d0 I get
DRIVE1=cciss/c0d0: No such file or directory
Any glue to the cause??? And to succeed to do the dynamic assignment?
Thanks,
Gianluca
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Re: F8 -> F9 horror
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:09 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 21:12 +0930, Tim wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 10:09 +, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > If you want old stuff, use Fedora 8, not 9. > > > > Has 8 got proper working sound yet? And without having to rip out > > pulseaudio to achieve it? > > FWIW, I'm running F9 (w/ pulseaudio) and everything seems to be working > great. I have banshee running at the same time as a few games and it > Just Works (TM). Not sure what issues you were running into. Adobe > Flash works fine (if you install libflashsupport). I don't use Skype on > this computer, so I don't know if that works. > > Jonathan > -- next part -- > > I upgraded from Fedora 7 to Fedora 8 via yum upgrade method a week or so after F8 came out and pulseaudio worked perfectly for me. I've been able to use to to mute games (like CrackAttack) while I listen to Rhythmbox. Perhaps something in the yum upgrade method just works better than a fresh install or a disc upgrade? I don't know, but I haven't had any problems with it at all. Nor have I had problems with it on my Ubuntu 8.04 machine either. Perhaps people who are complaining about pulseaudio have a red herring on their hands? Maybe something changed that no longer supported their audio card at the same time that pulseaudio was introduced? Any time you're using anything but OSX on Apple hardware it's going to be tough because you could have a nearly infinite configuration of hardware, so what works for me and what works for Jonathan, above, may not work for you. However, I'm here to tell you that it worked from day one for me. (And I've really enjoyed it!) -- Eric Mesa http://www.ericsbinaryworld.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to find WEP/WPA key to network if possible
--- On Fri, 5/30/08, Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: how to find WEP/WPA key to network if possible > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Date: Friday, May 30, 2008, 5:31 AM > Antonio Olivares wrote: > > >> > How does one get a KEY to a secured network > that could be WEP/WPA? > > > The guy is on vacation, A teacher needs to connect to > the network to teach > > a lesson. Nothing illegal or bad. Otherwise I > would not ask this > > question. > > 1) Wouldn't there usually be an ethernet connection > available > in such a situation? > Yes, but the network is dhcp with MAC filtering and many teachers do not know how to get into the network. Another thing is that they do not have wires to get them connected. I will stay out of this now. Regards, Antonio > > 2) Re hacking, with my AP at least it seems absurdly simple > to change the encryption key over the web. > > > -- > Timothy Murphy > e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net > tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 > s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, > Ireland > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F8 -> F9 horror
Tim wrote: On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 10:09 +, Kevin Kofler wrote: If you want old stuff, use Fedora 8, not 9. Has 8 got proper working sound yet? And without having to rip out pulseaudio to achieve it? I'm still using 7 on these boxes, because what I've read on this tends to suggest that it doesn't. 9 sound even worse. Well, it is working just fine for me on the 3 machines I have running F8. (2 desktops and a laptop.) I have to upgrade at least one of them to F9 soon! Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: ssh to a remote server via gateway server
lux wrote: I'm not sure that Mikkel's solution will work: "Pseudo-terminal will not be allocated because stdin is not a terminal" will be the error message. You can try adding the -t option to the command to run on PC A. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
