Re: Unable to set LC_COLLATE system-wide

[Karl-Olov Serrander]

On Tue, 3 Jun 2008, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 22:58 +0100, John Horne wrote:


The trouble is I do not know what the login sequence is when logging
into an X window system. As such, I cannot say what is being run between
the first run of /etc/profile and the second.


It's not only X itself, it's the whole desktop environment. In principle
you can follow the breadcrumbs via the man pages, but this line
(in /etc/profile etc.) will add more info to your debug comments and
might be useful:

echo This shell called from `ps -p $PPID -o comm=`, pid=$PPID >> /tmp/BASH_DEBUG


At runlevel 5, if I switch to a virtual console and log in, then both
variables are set correctly.

Since I'm a bit stumped as to where to go from here, but it definitely
seems that something 'odd' is going on, I think perhaps this should go
up to bugzilla?


Could be. It certainly doesn't seem to be doing what it says on the tin.

poc


Are you running gnome ? Have you set "Run command as a login shell" in your
profile for gnome-terminal ?

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Sharing CD-ROM over Samba on Fedora 8

[Daniel Tweedy]

Hi All,

I was just wondering if any of you have any experience of sharing a 
cd-rom over samba, i'm not having very much luck in getting it working 
you see, have googled and search a lot and I think I am very close to 
getting it working, but am kinda stuck as to what else I could do from 
where I am, so I am really looking for a few pointers/tips/ideas.


[cdrom]
comment = CD-ROM
path = /cdrom
writable = no
locking = no
public = yes
read only = yes
valid users = %S

This is what i'm using at the moment and it shows up on the windows pc 
but it asks for a password when I try to connect, but none of the users 
set up on the box or in the smbpasswd file work and root doesn't work 
either, it just keeps poping up asking for the password again no matter 
what I try.


Thanks,
Daniel.

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Re: Slightly OT: Verify certificate?

[Tim]

On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 04:34 +, g wrote:
> never open email you are unsure of.

That's a bit like never eat any food that you've never eaten before.

>  i believe only 'safe' email reader is tried and proven *mutt*.

He said, whilst using Thunderbird...  ;-)

I particularly dislike Thunderbird's method of rendering all mail as if
it were HTML.  Even plain text mail gets rendered, you don't get to see
what's sent, you see how it re-interprets the content, and it does make
mistakes.  Quite apart from the potential for error, there's a bigger
potential for abuse.

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Re: gecko-mediaplayer - the continuing saga?

[Craig White]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 20:29 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
> > 
> > note to original poster (Knute I think)...if you are using livna
> > mplayer, you have to comment out the line in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
> > 
> > #flip-hebrew = no
> > 
> > Craig
> 
> OK, I don't know if the flip-hebrew fixed it or one of the zillion 
> little libraries that came in with xine.  I've removed xine but it still 
> works.
> 
> Anyway you get the prize Craig cause it works now.  Now I have to reload 
> it from scratch and see if that is really the fix :-).

if you did have the livna version of mplayer and hadn't made that fix
in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf already, then that was indeed the problem.
This problem is entirely evident if you attempt to run mplayer from
command line.

Livna has known about this issue since F9 came out...I don't know why
they don't fix it but it's easy enough.

Craig

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Re: Slightly OT: Verify certificate?

[g]

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 19:12 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
While reading my mail I have just received a pop-up asking me to verify that 
the certificate identified as blah blah has the fingerprint more-blahs.  Just 
how do you do that?


I don't think I've ever seen that. What mail client was it?

poc


sounds of msos bait mail.

anything in email that you are leery of, start konqueror, follow your kmail
path to wherever / whatever and open 'inbox' or what ever name with kwrite.

have a look at email as a file,  'html', you may find a lot. there
are several other ways of triggering mail reader to do 'bells and whistles'.

any mail you have 'doubt', under konq, right click and select 'hexedit' or
'other -> khexedit'.

if you are pre-filtering email, set it to convert html and remove java and
other tricks.

never open email you are unsure of. i believe only 'safe' email reader is
tried and proven *mutt*.

go into email reader configs, disable all 'bells and whistles', html, java,
what ever.

always remember, local filtering 'known' email leaves 'the unknown'
in 'inbox'. approach with caution.  ;0)

set filters for what you know and want. if you did not filter it,
you do not know what it is.

before linux, when i was not under unix, as in, oos, aka, msosbs,
all my 'family, friends, clients, subscribed, whatever', went thru a
path to a 'box'. all else went to 'junk'.

if some asked offline, how to send me an email, i would give them a
'subject' to use. then, before making mail run, i added 'newbox',
wrote first filter to 'subject' -> 'newbox'. when email arrived, i
read headers, edited filter, good to go.

i have no, and read no 'inbox' mail.  :o)



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.

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LiveCD Boot Options

[Rick Bilonick]

I cannot get the Fedora 9 LiveCD to work with my HP 2133. I think the
problem is the display is not set correctly with X. I tried Fedora 8
LiveCD and it works fine. The xorg.conf file shows that the driver is
"vesa".

How can I force the Fedora 9 Live CD to use vesa?

Rick B.


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Re: remove liberation-fonts

[Tim]

On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 00:27 +0400, andrey i. mavlyanov wrote:
> another question - what is the steps to make "native microsoft" Arial,
> Times and etc. MS Fonts to be the preffered for their name?

Obvious question, but I have to ask:  Do you actually have them
installed?  And if so, where?

> Currently I could see that in most places the Arial is not MS Arial,
> but Liberation Serif.

Where/what?

While I've not actually tried it specifically with Arial, I have tried
specifying other certain fonts, and I notice that Firefox typically does
whatever it feels best (darned if I could work it out), yet other
programs did use fonts as told to.

> What is the place to configure this?

One place to start to research this:  /etc/fonts/fonts.conf

Read the comments in the file, track back what owns it, research that.
Look at related information.

I participated in a thread about this on May 8th, Re: Liberation Fonts &
Font-Mapping 101.  Have a prowl through the archives, the link is in the
mailing list's signature below (the address isn't just for
unsubscribing).

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Re: Is the single quote character the same as an apostrophe

[Tim]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 21:44 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote:
> Is the single quote the same as an apostrophe?

No, but a lot of things use them for the same thing.  In plain old
ASCII, you didn't have any alternative (only one character was
available, and it was used for both purposes).  With Unicode, you can
use the proper typographical symbols (opening and closing single quotes,
apostrophes, and accent marks are all *different* *things*).

Depending on your keyboard options, the ' key on the keyboard might type
an ASCII apostrophe (as I've just done) when you type it, or ´ when you
hit the ' key twice (using a compose feature).

> If not, where do I find the apostrophe character.

There's the character map utility for things like that, you can search
in it for "apostophe," rather than have to browse through it.  Using a
good font which draws them all differently will help you work out what's
what, elsewhere.

It's common enough, particularly for British keyboard users (thanks to
the layout of the keyboard), to wrongly use the ` (grave accent) instead
of ' (ASCII apostrophe) character.  Likewise, it's common for people to
wrongly use it as an opening single quote character.

Which apart from looking crap, doesn't work well with speech
synthesisers, or anything else which treats characters as what they were
actually typed as, rather than what they might look like.  Is what
you're typing actually meant to use an "apostrophe" in the first place?

It's about time keyboards were re-designed.  We've got mostly useless
arrays of function keys (hardly anybody uses more than the F1 key, in
the grand scheme of things), yet most of the proper punctuation marks
are completely absent, and require cryptic and varying techniques to
type them.

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Re: how to change the default ugly background for gdm?

[Todd Zullinger]

Tim wrote:
> But can it be installed without dragging in a slew of KDE at the
> same time?  And how would you install it, anyway?  I tried "yum
> install kdm" last night, but get a no package available error
> response.  Without installing KDE I don't know what I'm looking for
> to try and install KDM.

$ yum whatprovides '*bin/kdm'
[...]
kdebase-workspace.i386 : K Desktop Environment - Workspace

Installing that on my system would pull in 25 packages (and 74MB).  I
didn't select KDE at install time and haven't installed any kde apps -
yet.  Disk and bandwidth are reasonably cheap for me, so that doesn't
seem like a very high price to pay to check out another display
manager.  YMMV.  :-)

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Re: gecko-mediaplayer - the continuing saga?

[Knute Johnson]

Craig White wrote:


note to original poster (Knute I think)...if you are using livna
mplayer, you have to comment out the line in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf

#flip-hebrew = no

Craig


OK, I don't know if the flip-hebrew fixed it or one of the zillion 
little libraries that came in with xine.  I've removed xine but it still 
works.


Anyway you get the prize Craig cause it works now.  Now I have to reload 
it from scratch and see if that is really the fix :-).


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Re: End of Support for F8?

[Tim]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 11:50 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> PS The only reason I've ever wanted voice-interaction in a computer
> system is to be able to yell NO! a microsecond after hitting
> Send :-)

I wanted it with windows, so I could scream at it when it stuffed up,
and make it quake in terror.  Perhaps if it knew what I was going to do
it, the next time it screwed up, it wouldn't behave so badly.  I wanted
a box that needed therapy, instead of one that drives me towards needing
it.  ;-)

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Re: how to change the default ugly background for gdm?

[Tim]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 11:55 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> You can use KDM with Gnome.

But can it be installed without dragging in a slew of KDE at the same
time?  And how would you install it, anyway?  I tried "yum install kdm"
last night, but get a no package available error response.  Without
installing KDE I don't know what I'm looking for to try and install KDM.

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Re: gecko-mediaplayer - the continuing saga?

[Craig White]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 22:39 -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 19:22 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
> >> Craig White wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 19:09 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
>  Mauriat wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Knute Johnson
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I did a clean install of F9 on my old laptop.  I installed 
> >> gecko-mediaplayer
> >> and it still doesn't play what the old mplayerplug-in used to play.  In
> >> addition it blows up firefox.  Any help would be appreciated.
> >>
> > Can you provide some specific test cases so others can try to reproduce?
> >
> > -Mauriat
> >
>  Sorry, I should have thought of that.
> 
>  http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/ondemand/faq/
> 
>  On the left side in the white area, click on "Launch Classic Player."
> >>> 
> >>> that link works for me (the stream) but I can't say for certain that it
> >>> was gecko-mediaplayer handling it...how would I know?
> >>>
> >>> I do know that I installed a bunch of xine stuff per earlier
> >>> recommendations on the list...
> >>>
> >>> # rpm -qa|grep xine
> >>> xine-lib-arts-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
> >>> xine-0.99.5-1.lvn8.i386
> >>> totem-xine-2.23.2-2.fc9.i386
> >>> xine-lib-extras-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
> >>> xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.12-1.lvn9.i386
> >>> gxine-mozplugin-0.5.11-17.fc9.i386
> >>> xine-lib-pulseaudio-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
> >>> gxine-0.5.11-17.fc9.i386
> >>> xine-lib-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
> >>> xine-plugin-1.0.1-2.fc9.i386
> >>>
> >>> Craig
> >>>
> >> Craig:
> >>
> >> Do you have gecko-mediaplayer installed?
> > 
> > yes...
> > 
> > # rpm -q gecko-mediaplayer
> > gecko-mediaplayer-0.6.2-1.lvn9.i386
> > 
> > using kde & pulseaudio
> > 
> > Craig
> > 
> 
> I'm using Gnome here.  It (KFI) wouldn't play for me.  (Flash media 
> worked fine tho from other sites)  *BUT*, if I stopped firefox and 
> restarted it, KFI worked right away for me.  Yes, I have 
> gecko-mediaplayer installed as well.  Something about the way it works 
> prevents it from starting after a "few" times.  I wish I could be more 
> specific.  Every time it fails for me, restarting firefox seems to clear 
> it up for a while.
> 
> In case it matters, I'm running on x86_64  firefox 3.0b5 and 
> gecko-mediaplayer are both x86_64.  I have some .i386 packages installed 
> for things like Flash to work with the wrappers

I'm on i386 on this system and I can see it's mplayer that's playing the
link...

ps aux|grep mms
craig 5510  0.0  1.4  40036 14116 ?S19:48   0:00 mplayer
-quiet -slave -identify -framedrop -noconsolecontrols -osdlevel 0
-nomouseinput -user-agent NSPlayer -wid 0x2400028 -cookies -ass
-embeddedfonts -ass-font-scale 1.0 -vf-add screenshot
mms://a464.l1977112463.c19771.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/464/19771/v0001/reflector:12463?auth=caEc6bqaMbld7cwd3c5bLcocacdbKcWcJcM-birGkk-4q-TM3V8_2quFCqr3JBulztwr&aifp=1234&CPROG=SIMULCAST&MARKET=LOSANGELES-CA&MNM=1&NG_FORMAT=talk&NG_ID=kfi640am&OR_NEWSFORMAT=&REQUESTOR=KFI-AM&SERVER_NAME=wwwkfi640com&SITE_ID=616&STATION_ID=KFI-AM
root  5512  0.0  0.0   4124   728 pts/6S+   19:48   0:00 grep
mms

which I presume NSPLayer (user-agent) means gecko-mediaplayer but I
don't know for sure.

I haven't quit firefox for a couple of days and I went back to the site
after you posted this. Perhaps you have detected an issue in x86_64 that
doesn't appear to be there in i386

note to original poster (Knute I think)...if you are using livna
mplayer, you have to comment out the line in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf

#flip-hebrew = no

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Re: gecko-mediaplayer - the continuing saga?

[Knute Johnson]

Kevin J. Cummings wrote:

Craig White wrote:

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 19:22 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:

Craig White wrote:

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 19:09 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:

Mauriat wrote:

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Knute Johnson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I did a clean install of F9 on my old laptop.  I installed 
gecko-mediaplayer
and it still doesn't play what the old mplayerplug-in used to 
play.  In

addition it blows up firefox.  Any help would be appreciated.

Can you provide some specific test cases so others can try to 
reproduce?


-Mauriat


Sorry, I should have thought of that.

http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/ondemand/faq/

On the left side in the white area, click on "Launch Classic Player."


that link works for me (the stream) but I can't say for certain that it
was gecko-mediaplayer handling it...how would I know?

I do know that I installed a bunch of xine stuff per earlier
recommendations on the list...

# rpm -qa|grep xine
xine-lib-arts-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
xine-0.99.5-1.lvn8.i386
totem-xine-2.23.2-2.fc9.i386
xine-lib-extras-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.12-1.lvn9.i386
gxine-mozplugin-0.5.11-17.fc9.i386
xine-lib-pulseaudio-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
gxine-0.5.11-17.fc9.i386
xine-lib-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
xine-plugin-1.0.1-2.fc9.i386

Craig


Craig:

Do you have gecko-mediaplayer installed?


yes...

# rpm -q gecko-mediaplayer
gecko-mediaplayer-0.6.2-1.lvn9.i386

using kde & pulseaudio

Craig



I'm using Gnome here.  It (KFI) wouldn't play for me.  (Flash media 
worked fine tho from other sites)  *BUT*, if I stopped firefox and 
restarted it, KFI worked right away for me.  Yes, I have 
gecko-mediaplayer installed as well.  Something about the way it works 
prevents it from starting after a "few" times.  I wish I could be more 
specific.  Every time it fails for me, restarting firefox seems to clear 
it up for a while.


I've seen that same behavior when using both Windows and Linux F8.  I 
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Re: Unable to set LC_COLLATE system-wide

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 22:58 +0100, John Horne wrote:

> The trouble is I do not know what the login sequence is when logging
> into an X window system. As such, I cannot say what is being run between
> the first run of /etc/profile and the second.

It's not only X itself, it's the whole desktop environment. In principle
you can follow the breadcrumbs via the man pages, but this line
(in /etc/profile etc.) will add more info to your debug comments and
might be useful:

echo This shell called from `ps -p $PPID -o comm=`, pid=$PPID >> /tmp/BASH_DEBUG

> At runlevel 5, if I switch to a virtual console and log in, then both
> variables are set correctly.
> 
> Since I'm a bit stumped as to where to go from here, but it definitely
> seems that something 'odd' is going on, I think perhaps this should go
> up to bugzilla?

Could be. It certainly doesn't seem to be doing what it says on the tin.

poc

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Re: gecko-mediaplayer - the continuing saga?

[Kevin J. Cummings]

Craig White wrote:

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 19:22 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:

Craig White wrote:

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 19:09 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:

Mauriat wrote:

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Knute Johnson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I did a clean install of F9 on my old laptop.  I installed gecko-mediaplayer
and it still doesn't play what the old mplayerplug-in used to play.  In
addition it blows up firefox.  Any help would be appreciated.


Can you provide some specific test cases so others can try to reproduce?

-Mauriat


Sorry, I should have thought of that.

http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/ondemand/faq/

On the left side in the white area, click on "Launch Classic Player."


that link works for me (the stream) but I can't say for certain that it
was gecko-mediaplayer handling it...how would I know?

I do know that I installed a bunch of xine stuff per earlier
recommendations on the list...

# rpm -qa|grep xine
xine-lib-arts-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
xine-0.99.5-1.lvn8.i386
totem-xine-2.23.2-2.fc9.i386
xine-lib-extras-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.12-1.lvn9.i386
gxine-mozplugin-0.5.11-17.fc9.i386
xine-lib-pulseaudio-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
gxine-0.5.11-17.fc9.i386
xine-lib-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
xine-plugin-1.0.1-2.fc9.i386

Craig


Craig:

Do you have gecko-mediaplayer installed?


yes...

# rpm -q gecko-mediaplayer
gecko-mediaplayer-0.6.2-1.lvn9.i386

using kde & pulseaudio

Craig



I'm using Gnome here.  It (KFI) wouldn't play for me.  (Flash media 
worked fine tho from other sites)  *BUT*, if I stopped firefox and 
restarted it, KFI worked right away for me.  Yes, I have 
gecko-mediaplayer installed as well.  Something about the way it works 
prevents it from starting after a "few" times.  I wish I could be more 
specific.  Every time it fails for me, restarting firefox seems to clear 
it up for a while.


In case it matters, I'm running on x86_64  firefox 3.0b5 and 
gecko-mediaplayer are both x86_64.  I have some .i386 packages installed 
for things like Flash to work with the wrappers


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Re: gecko-mediaplayer - the continuing saga?

[Craig White]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 19:22 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 19:09 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
> >> Mauriat wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Knute Johnson
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I did a clean install of F9 on my old laptop.  I installed 
>  gecko-mediaplayer
>  and it still doesn't play what the old mplayerplug-in used to play.  In
>  addition it blows up firefox.  Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> >>> Can you provide some specific test cases so others can try to reproduce?
> >>>
> >>> -Mauriat
> >>>
> >> Sorry, I should have thought of that.
> >>
> >> http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/ondemand/faq/
> >>
> >> On the left side in the white area, click on "Launch Classic Player."
> > 
> > that link works for me (the stream) but I can't say for certain that it
> > was gecko-mediaplayer handling it...how would I know?
> > 
> > I do know that I installed a bunch of xine stuff per earlier
> > recommendations on the list...
> > 
> > # rpm -qa|grep xine
> > xine-lib-arts-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
> > xine-0.99.5-1.lvn8.i386
> > totem-xine-2.23.2-2.fc9.i386
> > xine-lib-extras-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
> > xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.12-1.lvn9.i386
> > gxine-mozplugin-0.5.11-17.fc9.i386
> > xine-lib-pulseaudio-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
> > gxine-0.5.11-17.fc9.i386
> > xine-lib-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
> > xine-plugin-1.0.1-2.fc9.i386
> > 
> > Craig
> > 
> 
> Craig:
> 
> Do you have gecko-mediaplayer installed?

yes...

# rpm -q gecko-mediaplayer
gecko-mediaplayer-0.6.2-1.lvn9.i386

using kde & pulseaudio

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Re: gecko-mediaplayer - the continuing saga?

[Knute Johnson]

Craig White wrote:

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 19:09 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:

Mauriat wrote:

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Knute Johnson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I did a clean install of F9 on my old laptop.  I installed gecko-mediaplayer
and it still doesn't play what the old mplayerplug-in used to play.  In
addition it blows up firefox.  Any help would be appreciated.


Can you provide some specific test cases so others can try to reproduce?

-Mauriat


Sorry, I should have thought of that.

http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/ondemand/faq/

On the left side in the white area, click on "Launch Classic Player."


that link works for me (the stream) but I can't say for certain that it
was gecko-mediaplayer handling it...how would I know?

I do know that I installed a bunch of xine stuff per earlier
recommendations on the list...

# rpm -qa|grep xine
xine-lib-arts-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
xine-0.99.5-1.lvn8.i386
totem-xine-2.23.2-2.fc9.i386
xine-lib-extras-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.12-1.lvn9.i386
gxine-mozplugin-0.5.11-17.fc9.i386
xine-lib-pulseaudio-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
gxine-0.5.11-17.fc9.i386
xine-lib-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
xine-plugin-1.0.1-2.fc9.i386

Craig



Craig:

Do you have gecko-mediaplayer installed?

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Re: gecko-mediaplayer - the continuing saga?

[Craig White]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 19:09 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
> Mauriat wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Knute Johnson
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I did a clean install of F9 on my old laptop.  I installed 
> >> gecko-mediaplayer
> >> and it still doesn't play what the old mplayerplug-in used to play.  In
> >> addition it blows up firefox.  Any help would be appreciated.
> >>
> > 
> > Can you provide some specific test cases so others can try to reproduce?
> > 
> > -Mauriat
> > 
> 
> Sorry, I should have thought of that.
> 
> http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/ondemand/faq/
> 
> On the left side in the white area, click on "Launch Classic Player."

that link works for me (the stream) but I can't say for certain that it
was gecko-mediaplayer handling it...how would I know?

I do know that I installed a bunch of xine stuff per earlier
recommendations on the list...

# rpm -qa|grep xine
xine-lib-arts-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
xine-0.99.5-1.lvn8.i386
totem-xine-2.23.2-2.fc9.i386
xine-lib-extras-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
xine-lib-extras-nonfree-1.1.12-1.lvn9.i386
gxine-mozplugin-0.5.11-17.fc9.i386
xine-lib-pulseaudio-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
gxine-0.5.11-17.fc9.i386
xine-lib-1.1.12-2.fc9.i386
xine-plugin-1.0.1-2.fc9.i386

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Re: gecko-mediaplayer - the continuing saga?

[Knute Johnson]

Knute Johnson wrote: 

And it turns out it only blows up if it is running under XFCE.  Under 
Gnome it just won't play the audio.  The debug trace under Gnome is below.


Thanks,

knute...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ firefox -debug
DBUS connection created
Listening to path /control/54701
ARG: type = application/x-mplayer2
ARG: name = MediaPlayer1
ARG: src =
ARG: id = Player
ARG: autostart = 1
ARG: showcontrols = 0
ARG: height = 240
ARG: width = 320
JS playState issued
DBUS connection created
Listening to path /control/16170
ARG: type = application/x-mplayer2
ARG: pluginspage = http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/MediaPlayer/
ARG: name = MediaPlayer1
ARG: uimode = mini
ARG: src = 
http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/streaming_new/genasx.php?ua=3805a1be0f939d7389f9032238a944b0
ARG: url = 
http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/streaming_new/genasx.php?ua=3805a1be0f939d7389f9032238a944b0

ARG: animationatstart = false
ARG: transparentatstart = true
ARG: autostart = 1
ARG: showcontrols = 1
ARG: showstatusbar = 1
ARG: height = 64
ARG: width = 300
opening /tmp/geckoT7ChUI for localcache
Error when running: Failed to execute child process "mencoder" (No such 
file or directory)

Entering list_parse_qt localsize = 933
unable to find rmda in /tmp/geckoT7ChUI
Entering list_parse_asx localsize = 933
Item
src = 
http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/streaming_new/genasx.php?ua=3805a1be0f939d7389f9032238a944b0

local = /tmp/geckoT7ChUI
id = 1
play = 0
path =
controlid = 0
playerready = 0
newwindow = 0
cancelled = 0
streaming = 0
loop = 0
loopcount = 0
Item
src = 
mms://a464.l1977112463.c19771.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/464/19771/v0001/reflector:12463?auth=caEbGbDceaKb1cObcd1d5bkcvbAaWdrbtdV-birFQ.-4q-NM6X4_7ooFAoo4FDukvtxq&aifp=1234&CPROG=SIMULCAST&MARKET=LOSANGELES-CA&MNM=1&NG_FORMAT=talk&NG_ID=kfi640am&OR_NEWSFORMAT=&REQUESTOR=KFI-AM&SERVER_NAME=wwwkfi640com&SITE_ID=616&STATION_ID=KFI-AM

local =
id = 100
play = 1
path =
controlid = 0
playerready = 0
newwindow = 0
cancelled = 0
streaming = 1
loop = 0
loopcount = 0
Item
src = 
mms://a465.l1977112464.c19771.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/465/19771/v0001/reflector:12464?auth=caEcDbOabamadcxbFa9dSdtc2c2d1dLbeb_-birFQ.-4q-UMXV1_3noFDon1DDrmEtAr&aifp=1234&CPROG=SIMULCAST&MARKET=LOSANGELES-CA&MNM=1&NG_FORMAT=talk&NG_ID=kfi640am&OR_NEWSFORMAT=&REQUESTOR=KFI-AM&SERVER_NAME=wwwkfi640com&SITE_ID=616&STATION_ID=KFI-AM

local =
id = 100
play = 1
path =
controlid = 0
playerready = 0
newwindow = 0
cancelled = 0
streaming = 1
loop = 0
loopcount = 0
Exiting list_parse_asx
Entering list_parse_qml localsize = 933
Item
src = 
http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/streaming_new/genasx.php?ua=3805a1be0f939d7389f9032238a944b0

local = /tmp/geckoT7ChUI
id = 1
play = 0
path =
controlid = 0
playerready = 0
newwindow = 0
cancelled = 0
streaming = 0
loop = 0
loopcount = 0
Item
src = 
mms://a464.l1977112463.c19771.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/464/19771/v0001/reflector:12463?auth=caEbGbDceaKb1cObcd1d5bkcvbAaWdrbtdV-birFQ.-4q-NM6X4_7ooFAoo4FDukvtxq&aifp=1234&CPROG=SIMULCAST&MARKET=LOSANGELES-CA&MNM=1&NG_FORMAT=talk&NG_ID=kfi640am&OR_NEWSFORMAT=&REQUESTOR=KFI-AM&SERVER_NAME=wwwkfi640com&SITE_ID=616&STATION_ID=KFI-AM

local =
id = 100
play = 1
path =
controlid = 0
playerready = 0
newwindow = 0
cancelled = 0
streaming = 1
loop = 0
loopcount = 0
Item
src = 
mms://a465.l1977112464.c19771.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/465/19771/v0001/reflector:12464?auth=caEcDbOabamadcxbFa9dSdtc2c2d1dLbeb_-birFQ.-4q-UMXV1_3noFDon1DDrmEtAr&aifp=1234&CPROG=SIMULCAST&MARKET=LOSANGELES-CA&MNM=1&NG_FORMAT=talk&NG_ID=kfi640am&OR_NEWSFORMAT=&REQUESTOR=KFI-AM&SERVER_NAME=wwwkfi640com&SITE_ID=616&STATION_ID=KFI-AM

local =
id = 100
play = 1
path =
controlid = 0
playerready = 0
newwindow = 0
cancelled = 0
streaming = 1
loop = 0
loopcount = 0
Exiting list_parse_qml
Exiting destroy stream reason = 1 for 
http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/streaming_new/genasx.php?ua=3805a1be0f939d7389f9032238a944b0



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Re: gecko-mediaplayer - the continuing saga?

[Knute Johnson]

Mauriat wrote:

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Knute Johnson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I did a clean install of F9 on my old laptop.  I installed gecko-mediaplayer
and it still doesn't play what the old mplayerplug-in used to play.  In
addition it blows up firefox.  Any help would be appreciated.



Can you provide some specific test cases so others can try to reproduce?

-Mauriat



Sorry, I should have thought of that.

http://www.kfi640.com/cc-common/ondemand/faq/

On the left side in the white area, click on "Launch Classic Player."

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FC9 KDE Desktop Behavior

[Joseph L. Casale]

How does one return the behavior of KDE's new desktop back to that of FC8 where 
you could actually right click an item on the desktop and move/delete it etc...

Thanks!
jlc
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Re: Logwatch report on another machine?

[Craig White]

On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 02:54 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Dave Burns wrote:
> 
> >> How can I get the logwatch report on one machine (helen.gayleard.com)
> >> sent to another machine (alfred.gayleard.com) on the same LAN?
> >>
> >> I tried editing /etc/aliases on the first machine,
> >> changing the last line to
> >>root:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> (and running newaliases) but this did not do the trick.
> > 
> > That should be good enough, *if* sendmail is working on that machine
> > and that address doesn't bounce. If you do
> > 
> > echo 'testing the client'|mutt -s 'testing client' 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > do you ever get the email?
> 
> First of all, thanks for your response.
> I tried the above command, but the mail did not get through.
> 
> Looking at /var/log/maillog on helen I see the lines
> ---
> Jun  4 02:27:56 helen sendmail[10504]: m541RtCq010504:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=tim (500/500), delay=00:00:01,
> xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=30326, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1],
> dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (m541Rtds010505 Message accepted for delivery)
> Jun  4 02:27:56 helen sendmail[10507]: m541Rtds010505:
> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (500/500),
> delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=120482,
> relay=smtp.eircom.net [159.134.198.135], dsn=5.6.0, stat=Dataformat error
> Jun  4 02:27:56 helen sendmail[10507]: m541Rtds010505: m541Ruds010507: DSN:
> Data format error
> ---
> 
> I suspect this means the email was sent to my ISP, eircom.net ,
> who rejected the email on the grounds the address was unknown or wrong.
> 
> > I am also assuming you haven't tweaked the default config of logwatch.
> > 
> > Speaking of which, you could try changing the "mailto" field in
> > /etc/logwatch/conf/logwatch.conf.
> 
> This file was empty (except for a comment line) on my Fedora-9 system.
> But I've added
> ---
> MailTo = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MailFrom = Logwatch
> ---
> and will see if this does the trick.

it won't 

# host alfred.gayleard.com
Host alfred.gayleard.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

# host helen.gayleard.com
Host helen.gayleard.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

# host gayleard.com
gayleard.com has address 86.43.71.228
gayleard.com mail is handled by 10 mail.gayleard.com.

no known host names for alfred.gayleard.com or helen.gayleard.com but
there is a gayleard.com and a mail.gayleard.com - those are usable...

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Re: gecko-mediaplayer - the continuing saga?

[Mauriat]

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Knute Johnson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I did a clean install of F9 on my old laptop.  I installed gecko-mediaplayer
> and it still doesn't play what the old mplayerplug-in used to play.  In
> addition it blows up firefox.  Any help would be appreciated.
>

Can you provide some specific test cases so others can try to reproduce?

-Mauriat

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Re: Problems in Fedora 8

[Matthew Saltzman]

On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 02:55 +0300, Nicolae Ghimbovschi wrote:
> Press any key (except enter) while it boots from the DVD.
> And choose text mode installation.

Please don't top post.

Antonio, you could also try the vesa video driver (enter "linux vesa" at
the first prompt) or VPNC (see the installation notes) if you have
another working computer to run the install from.  The graphic install
is much more pleasant than the text install, if you can get it to work.

> 
> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:38 AM, antonio.barragan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Dear All
> >
> > I have a linux box which is as follows:
> > MSI K8T Neo-V Mainboard, 1 GB RAM
> > Athlon 3000 processor
> > Samsung 160 GB HDD SATA
> > Seagate 40 GB IDE HDD
> > Lite-On DVD RW unit SATA
> > PNY Verto Nvidia 6200 graphics card, 256 MB, Digital and analog output
> > Samsung SyncMaster 940 BW monitor (19 inch, WXGA mode)
> > The machine is configured to boot from the DVD unit.
> >
> > I have been trying  to install Fedora 8, but so far,  this is what happens:
> >
> > - The first menu (text) where you could choose text mode installation
> > goes so fast
> >  there is no time to do anything
> > - The splash menu does not appear at all
> > - After quite a while (several minutes) the following messages appear:
> > \"loading vmlinuz\" and
> >  \"loading initrd.img\"
> > - A sequence of messages appear next, but they go quite fast. The last
> > one is recognizing the VC
> >  as a Nvidia NV44A (GeForce 6200)
> > - Then the anaconda seems to start.
> > - From there on, a white screen appears, as if the graphics installation
> > tried to start, but
> >  there\'s only the white screen without any kind of icons or messages
> > and the system stays
> >  like that forever (I waited for half an hour and nothing else happened!)
> >
> > - The monitor has 2 modes: Analog and Digital. I tried both with the
> > same result
> >
> > BTW, his happens the same with OpenSuse 10.3
> >
> > I will greatly appreciate any help or hint with this
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > Antonio Barragan
> >
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Re: Logwatch report on another machine?

[Timothy Murphy]

Dave Burns wrote:

>> How can I get the logwatch report on one machine (helen.gayleard.com)
>> sent to another machine (alfred.gayleard.com) on the same LAN?
>>
>> I tried editing /etc/aliases on the first machine,
>> changing the last line to
>>root:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> (and running newaliases) but this did not do the trick.
> 
> That should be good enough, *if* sendmail is working on that machine
> and that address doesn't bounce. If you do
> 
> echo 'testing the client'|mutt -s 'testing client' 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> do you ever get the email?

First of all, thanks for your response.
I tried the above command, but the mail did not get through.

Looking at /var/log/maillog on helen I see the lines
---
Jun  4 02:27:56 helen sendmail[10504]: m541RtCq010504:
[EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=tim (500/500), delay=00:00:01,
xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=30326, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1],
dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (m541Rtds010505 Message accepted for delivery)
Jun  4 02:27:56 helen sendmail[10507]: m541Rtds010505:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (500/500),
delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=120482,
relay=smtp.eircom.net [159.134.198.135], dsn=5.6.0, stat=Dataformat error
Jun  4 02:27:56 helen sendmail[10507]: m541Rtds010505: m541Ruds010507: DSN:
Data format error
---

I suspect this means the email was sent to my ISP, eircom.net ,
who rejected the email on the grounds the address was unknown or wrong.

> I am also assuming you haven't tweaked the default config of logwatch.
> 
> Speaking of which, you could try changing the "mailto" field in
> /etc/logwatch/conf/logwatch.conf.

This file was empty (except for a comment line) on my Fedora-9 system.
But I've added
---
MailTo = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MailFrom = Logwatch
---
and will see if this does the trick.



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gecko-mediaplayer - the continuing saga?

[Knute Johnson]

I did a clean install of F9 on my old laptop.  I installed 
gecko-mediaplayer and it still doesn't play what the old mplayerplug-in 
used to play.  In addition it blows up firefox.  Any help would be 
appreciated.


Thanks,

knute...


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ firefox -debug
DBUS connection created
Listening to path /control/64345
ARG: type = application/x-mplayer2
ARG: name = MediaPlayer1
ARG: src =
ARG: id = Player
ARG: autostart = 1
ARG: showcontrols = 0
ARG: height = 240
ARG: width = 320
JS playState issued
Error message = The name com.gnome.mplayer.cid64345 was not provided by 
any .service files
process 4067: arguments to dbus_message_get_args() were incorrect, 
assertion "message != NULL" failed in file dbus-message.c line 1666.

This is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library.
 D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace
/usr/lib/firefox-3.0b5/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  4067 
Aborted "$prog" ${1+"$@"}

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$
(npviewer.bin:4106): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_style_detach: assertion 
`style->attach_count > 0' failed


(npviewer.bin:4106): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_style_detach: assertion 
`style->attach_count > 0' failed


(npviewer.bin:4106): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_style_detach: assertion 
`style->attach_count > 0' failed


(npviewer.bin:4106): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_style_detach: assertion 
`style->attach_count > 0' failed


  


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Re: name of program

[Michael Schwendt]

On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 00:54:10 + (UTC), Amadeus W.M. wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum list | grep -i invest
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# 
> 
> yum doesn't find it. 

It's included in the base  gnome-applets  package.

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Re: Fedora 9 & runlevel 3

[Tom Horsley]

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:44:19 -0400
Bob Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'd sure like to
> know what other process is running while /bin/login is waiting for me to 
> login.

Maybe you could replace telinit with a script that does a ps to a log
file, then execs the original telinit?

I certainly don't have the problem on my fedora 9 virtual machine which
I switched to runlevel 3 after installing it.

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Re: Dual monitors in F9 ?

[Steve]

 "Stephen Berg (Contractor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> linuxguy wrote:
> > Has anyone gotten dual monitors to work in F9 with Nvidia ?
> >
> > I've go the latest Livna Nvidia packages installed.   Xorg works OK with
> > a single monitor, but it hangs when I start X with 2 connected.   Any
> > idea ?
> >
> > Thanks.
> I used the kmod packages from Livna and have a dual head setup working 
> just fine at home.  Did you run the nvidia-xconfig utility?  That seemed 
> to do the trick for me without any manual tweaking needed.

Would you mind posting your xorg.conf file? Did you write it yourself or delete 
it and let X write it or use system-config-display?

I am just using the nv driver and the same configuration that worked fine in F7 
before I upgraded to F9 but that didn't work at all; X wouldn't start. Then I 
tried system-config-display and I the first monitor working the second is a 
flashing orange screen with random colored blocks.

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scanner permissions problem

[Amadeus W.M.]

I have this Brother DCP-130 printer+scanner which I got it to work both as 
a printer and as a scanner under F8 with the drivers from the manufacturer.
It's connected to the usb port. 

The printer works in F9 but the scanner only works as root (with xsane). 
As user I'm getting this error:

Failed to open device `brother2:bus4;dev2':
Error during device I/O.

Since as root it seems fine, I imagine this is a permissions problem. So

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rules.d]# lsusb
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 413c:3200 Dell Computer Corp. Mouse
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 04f9:01a8 Brother Industries, Ltd DCP-130C
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0764:0501 Cyber Power System, Inc. CP1500 AVR UPS
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub


Since it's on bus 3, device 2, I took a shot in the dark and I did

ls -l /dev/usbdev3.2_ep*
crw-rw 1 root root 249, 12 2008-05-31 23:19 /dev/usbdev3.2_ep00
crw-rw 1 root root 249, 13 2008-05-31 23:19 /dev/usbdev3.2_ep01
crw-rw 1 root root 249, 15 2008-05-31 23:19 /dev/usbdev3.2_ep03
crw-rw 1 root root 249, 18 2008-05-31 23:19 /dev/usbdev3.2_ep08
crw-rw 1 root root 249, 14 2008-05-31 23:19 /dev/usbdev3.2_ep82
crw-rw 1 root root 249, 16 2008-05-31 23:19 /dev/usbdev3.2_ep84
crw-rw 1 root root 249, 17 2008-05-31 23:19 /dev/usbdev3.2_ep85
crw-rw 1 root root 249, 19 2008-05-31 23:19 /dev/usbdev3.2_ep89

It would make sense then that I can't access it as user. So I changed 
permissions to 666 but no luck. Anyway, I imagine setting the permissions 
manually wouldn't be the right way anyway, it should probably be done via 
udev or hal somehow, but I have no idea how. I did grep for the vendor Id 
(04f9) in /etc/udev/rules.d but returned nothing. This is but one of the 
endless troubles I'm having that I suspect are due to udev/hal. 

Help please? 

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f9 vino problem

[David L]

I'm unable to get a vncviewer to connect to my f9 gnome desktop
using vncviewer after enabling remote viewing with vino-preferences.
I think I'm doing the same thing that worked in f8, but now on the
client side I get a "unable to connect to host: no route to host"
error.  Any ideas?

Thanks,

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Re: name of program

[Amadeus W.M.]

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 10:59:58 -0400, max bianco wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Amadeus W.M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> What's the name of that program that can be used to display stock
>> market charts? I first saw it in F7. I can add it to a pannel (right
>> click -> add to panel -> Invest), but I probably don't have it
>> installed, because nothing happens when I click the icon on the panel.
>> And I did search for "invest", "stock", "market", "ticker", "tracker"
>> with yum and found nothing that might ring a bell.
>>
>>
> Invest is the right name. I  check my stocks with it too. Are you using
> gnome or kde? Its still there in gnome but I don't know about kde. Did
> you remove any packages from your install that you thought you might not
> need? I am pretty sure its part of the gnome-applets package.  I am
> still playing with the new kde. Maybe there is a stocks widget? I
> haven't looked.
> I love the menu. Reminds me of what open suse was doing in 10.2. Not
> like the ever expanding menu nightmare that confronted me in f7. I am
> finding it pretty usable but after so much time using gnome i am having
> to adjust plus kde isn't quite finished with the reworking. Still soon I
> will make the transition back to KDE completely. I have missed K3B and
> amarok among others(which i notice is missing replaced by Juk or is JUk
> a new amarok?I am out of the loop here) Anyway, i am getting off the
> subject. gnome-applets package should have what you need.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum list | grep -i invest
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# 

yum doesn't find it. 


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Re: Fedora 9 & runlevel 3

[Bob Barrett]

g wrote:

Kevin J. Cummings wrote:

menu.lst is better known in the Fedora world as:  /etc/grub.conf


if menu.lst is left as a link, which it does not seem to have to be.




I have employed the brute  force solution:

 /usr/sbin/gdm

 [F8:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/rc.d]# l /usr/sbin/gdm
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 666 2008-05-12 14:00 /usr/sbin/gdm*

 [F8:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/rc.d]# chmod 400 /usr/sbin/gdm

 [F8:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/rc.d]# l /usr/sbin/gdm
 -r 1 root root 666 2008-05-12 14:00 /usr/sbin/gdm


It is not executable anymore. But this should not be necessary. I want 
it to boot to runlevel 3.
I changed /etc/inittab to id:3:initdefault:. It boots to runlevel 3, and 
login displays the login
prompt, but before I can log in, it appears that some process runs 
"telinit 5".


Then the gdm login request appears. Since I have not logged in yet, I 
can't run ps to see what

process is running. It should not work this way.

I have run:

 sudo grep -rs gdm /etc/ | less
 sudo grep -rs xdm /etc/ | less
 sudo grep -rs 'telinit 5' /etc/ | less
 sudo grep -rs telinit /etc/ | less
 sudo grep -rs 'runlevel 5' /etc/ | less
 sudo grep -rs runlevel /etc/ | less

Xdm is not installed.

If there was something calling gdm in /etc/rc.d/ or /etc/event.d/, I 
should have found it.
It's probably not in the startup scripts because it happens after 
/bin/login has run.


Therefore, I ran:

 "grep -rs /bin/gdm / | less"   which produced:

 Binary file /etc/prelink.cache matches
 Binary file /var/lib/rpm/Packages matches
 Binary file /var/cache/yum/updates/primary.sqlite matches
 Binary file /var/cache/yum/AdditionalFedoraSoftware/primary.sqlite matches
 Binary file /var/cache/yum/fedora/primary.sqlite matches

Non of these look like they would be running "/bin/gdm".

I should not have had to remove executable permissions from /bin/gdm. 
Editing /etc/innittab
should have been sufficient. Surely, someone else has had this problem. 
I'd sure like to
know what other process is running while /bin/login is waiting for me to 
login.


bob

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Re: Logwatch report on another machine?

[Dave Burns]

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How can I get the logwatch report on one machine (helen.gayleard.com)
> sent to another machine (alfred.gayleard.com) on the same LAN?
>
> I tried editing /etc/aliases on the first machine,
> changing the last line to
>root:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (and running newaliases) but this did not do the trick.

That should be good enough, *if* sendmail is working on that machine
and that address doesn't bounce. If you do

echo 'testing the client'|mutt -s 'testing client'  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

do you ever get the email?

I am also assuming you haven't tweaked the default config of logwatch.

Speaking of which, you could try changing the "mailto" field in
/etc/logwatch/conf/logwatch.conf.

HTH
Dave

>
> I also tried adding MAILER(local) in sendmail.mc on helen
> (and restarting sendmail), but this appeared to have no effect.
> I'm not sure what MAILER(local) means?
>
> It seems to be more difficult than I thought
> to send email from one machine on a LAN to another.
> Is there some line I could add to sendmail.mc which would enable this?
>
> Any advice or suggestions gratefully received.
>
>
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Re: Fedora 9 + Network Manager = Wireless NOT Connecting

[Marc Ferguson]

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 13:46 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> > The NM developers suffer from the delusion
> > that NM always works.
>
> Of course it always works. Says so right here in the man page :-)
>
> poc
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>
Latest update on mine is that it still doesn't work.  I did post in the
Fedora forums and someone posted this link.

http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManagerHardware

It looks like there are two drivers possibly conflicting.  My only problem
is I don't know how to verify which drivers are being used and how to
disable or uninstall a driver.  Can you point me in the right direction?
Thanks.

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Problems with mailserver spamming itself due to loop

[Mark]

Hello,

I have a recurring problem with my mailserver redelivering the same email over 
and over again to itself, until it gets entirely
overloaded.

I am not sure what triggers this, it seems that mostly some incoming spam 
emails might be to blame. I guess there is an underlying
configuration problem that needs to be fixed so that these loops will not 
happen any more, but I don't know where to  look.

Attached below is an email header of one of those emails that shows how the 
message is looping:
Received: from smtp2.mydomain.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])

Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])

smtp2.mydomain.com and localhost is the machine...

Can somebody tell me what I can do to prevent these loops?

This is using sendmail 8.13.8-2, procmail 3.22-17.1, and cyrus-imapd 
2.3.7-8.fc6 from Core 6.

Thanks,

MARK


--

V8
T1210887359
K0
N0
P153502
I8/3/9603209
B8BITMIME
F8b
$_localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
$rESMTP
$ssmtp2.mydomain.com
${daemon_flags}
${if_addr}127.0.0.1
S<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
A<>
Cnmatyas:532:503:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
rRFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RFDA:nmatyas
Cpmeuter:524:503:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
rRFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RFDA:pmeuter
Cmarnold_mail:519:503:marnold
rRFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RFDA:marnold_mail
Cmartin2:521:503:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
rRFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RFDA:martin2
Cmartin1:520:503:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
rRFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RFDA:martin1
H?P?Return-Path: 
H??Received: from smtp2.mydomain.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
by smtp2.mydomain.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4FLZwva014218
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 15 May 2008 14:35:59 -0700
H?x?Full-Name: root
H??Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
by smtp2.mydomain.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m4FLZw3K014175;
Thu, 15 May 2008 14:35:58 -0700
H??Received: from smtp2.mydomain.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
by smtp2.mydomain.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4FKpKBq012154
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 15 May 2008 13:51:20 -0700
H??Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
by smtp2.mydomain.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m4FKpKts012142;
Thu, 15 May 2008 13:51:20 -0700
H??Received: from smtp2.mydomain.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
by smtp2.mydomain.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4FKfTBO027733
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 15 May 2008 13:41:29 -0700
H??Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
by smtp2.mydomain.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m4FKfTNX027728;
Thu, 15 May 2008 13:41:29 -0700
H??Received: from smtp2.mydomain.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
by smtp2.mydomain.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4FKVjPr014985
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 15 May 2008 13:31:45 -0700
H??Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
by smtp2.mydomain.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m4FKVjJx014982;
Thu, 15 May 2008 13:31:45 -0700
H??Received: from smtp2.mydomain.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
by smtp2.mydomain.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4FKL5Jv020635
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 15 May 2008 13:21:05 -0700
H??Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
by smtp2.mydomain.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m4FKL5s4020633;
Thu, 15 May 2008 13:21:05 -0700
H??Received: from smtp2.mydomain.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
by smtp2.mydomain.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4FKB25T000990
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 15 May 2008 13:11:02 -0700
H??Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
by smtp2.mydomain.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m4FKB2ck000989;
Thu, 15 May 2008 13:11:02 -0700
H??Received: from psmtp.com (exprod5mx248.postini.com [64.18.0.168])
by smtp2.mydomain.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m4FJpgUg014951
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 15 May 2008 12:51:43 -0700
H??Received: from source ([83.216.162.193]) by exprod5mx248.postini.com 
([64.18.4.11]) with SMTP;
Thu, 15 May 2008 14:51:41 CDT
H??Received: from [83.216.162.193] (port=29332 helo=monet7-193.comune.modena.it)
by mydomain.com.s5a2.psmtp.com with esmtp
id 854627-5bbed1-65
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 15 May 2008 21:51:31 +0100
H??Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
H??Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 21:51:31 +0100
H??From: "Jessie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
H??User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031)
H??MIME-Version: 1.0
H??To: "Brandi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
H??Subject: Invoice from Mail.com
H??Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
H??Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
H??X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080515-1, 05/15/2008), Outbound message
H??X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
H??X-pstn-levels: (S: 0.0/21.22438 CV:99. R:95.9108 P:95.9108 
M:97.0282 C:98.6951 )
H??X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) cv gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c
H??X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> forward (org good) [47/3]
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Re: Logwatch report on another machine?

[Nicolae Ghimbovschi]

Fedora uses syslogd to provide a syslog service.
The default configuration of syslogd  rejects messages from remote systems.

To configure a Fedora system to accept log messages from other systems
on the network, edit the file /etc/sysconfig/syslog.
You must use root privileges to edit the file /etc/sysconfig/syslog.
Add the option -r to the SYSLOGD_OPTIONS:

SYSLOGD_OPTIONS="-m 0 -r"

Restart the syslogd service to apply the change:

su -c '/sbin/service syslog restart'

By default, the syslog service listens on UDP port 514.


On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 2:56 AM, Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How can I get the logwatch report on one machine (helen.gayleard.com)
> sent to another machine (alfred.gayleard.com) on the same LAN?
>
> I tried editing /etc/aliases on the first machine,
> changing the last line to
>root:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (and running newaliases) but this did not do the trick.
>
> I also tried adding MAILER(local) in sendmail.mc on helen
> (and restarting sendmail), but this appeared to have no effect.
> I'm not sure what MAILER(local) means?
>
> It seems to be more difficult than I thought
> to send email from one machine on a LAN to another.
> Is there some line I could add to sendmail.mc which would enable this?
>
> Any advice or suggestions gratefully received.
>
>
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Logwatch report on another machine?

[Timothy Murphy]

How can I get the logwatch report on one machine (helen.gayleard.com)
sent to another machine (alfred.gayleard.com) on the same LAN?

I tried editing /etc/aliases on the first machine,
changing the last line to
root:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(and running newaliases) but this did not do the trick.

I also tried adding MAILER(local) in sendmail.mc on helen
(and restarting sendmail), but this appeared to have no effect.
I'm not sure what MAILER(local) means?

It seems to be more difficult than I thought
to send email from one machine on a LAN to another.
Is there some line I could add to sendmail.mc which would enable this?

Any advice or suggestions gratefully received.



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Re: Problems in Fedora 8

[Nicolae Ghimbovschi]

Press any key (except enter) while it boots from the DVD.
And choose text mode installation.

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:38 AM, antonio.barragan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear All
>
> I have a linux box which is as follows:
> MSI K8T Neo-V Mainboard, 1 GB RAM
> Athlon 3000 processor
> Samsung 160 GB HDD SATA
> Seagate 40 GB IDE HDD
> Lite-On DVD RW unit SATA
> PNY Verto Nvidia 6200 graphics card, 256 MB, Digital and analog output
> Samsung SyncMaster 940 BW monitor (19 inch, WXGA mode)
> The machine is configured to boot from the DVD unit.
>
> I have been trying  to install Fedora 8, but so far,  this is what happens:
>
> - The first menu (text) where you could choose text mode installation
> goes so fast
>  there is no time to do anything
> - The splash menu does not appear at all
> - After quite a while (several minutes) the following messages appear:
> \"loading vmlinuz\" and
>  \"loading initrd.img\"
> - A sequence of messages appear next, but they go quite fast. The last
> one is recognizing the VC
>  as a Nvidia NV44A (GeForce 6200)
> - Then the anaconda seems to start.
> - From there on, a white screen appears, as if the graphics installation
> tried to start, but
>  there\'s only the white screen without any kind of icons or messages
> and the system stays
>  like that forever (I waited for half an hour and nothing else happened!)
>
> - The monitor has 2 modes: Analog and Digital. I tried both with the
> same result
>
> BTW, his happens the same with OpenSuse 10.3
>
> I will greatly appreciate any help or hint with this
>
> Thanks in advance
> Antonio Barragan
>
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Re: Weird SELinux problem after upgrade to F9

[Kayvan A. Sylvan]

Does anyone have any suggestions here?

I would really love to get SELinux working correctly on my F9 upgraded box.

What can I do to debug this?

On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 03:25:17AM -0700, Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Over the last few days, I have managed to upgrade myself from FC4 (yes,
> really!) all the way to Fedora 9.
> 
> My system is an X86_64 dual-core Intel box with 8GB of memory and it seems to
> run so much faster with a smaller memory footprint under F9. Thanks to
> all the Fedora developers!
> 
> My problem is that after the upgrades I was getting all sorts of SELinux
> errors (from practically every application), so I figured that I would
> go ahead and relabel the filesystems. After the relabel, I was still
> getting dozens of errors per second, so I changed SELinux to Permissive
> mode (via /etc/selinux/config), rebooted and the system is now working.
> 
> However, I would like to get SELinux to work in Enforcing mode.
> 
> I have the following SELinux related packages installed:
> 
> # yum list all selinux*
> Installed Packages
> 
> selinux-doc.noarch   1.26-1.1   installed 
>   
> selinux-policy.noarch3.3.1-55.fc9   installed 
>   
> selinux-policy-targeted.noarch   3.3.1-55.fc9   installed 
>   
> 
> Available Packages
> selinux-policy-devel.noarch  3.3.1-55.fc9   updates   
>   
> selinux-policy-mls.noarch3.3.1-55.fc9   updates   
>   
> 
> These are the types of errors I was seeing:
> 
> Jun  3 02:42:12 satyr kernel: type=1400 audit(1212486109.144:12): avc:  
> denied  { getattr } for  pid=1495 comm="restorecon" name="/" dev=selinuxfs 
> ino=1 scontext=system_u:system_r:setfiles_t:s0 
> tcontext=system_u:object_r:security_t:s0 tclass=filesystem
> Jun  3 02:42:12 satyr kernel: type=1400 audit(1212486109.316:13): avc:  
> denied  { getattr } for  pid=1503 comm="dmsetup" name="/" dev=selinuxfs ino=1 
> scontext=system_u:system_r:lvm_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:object_r:security_t:s0 
> tclass=filesystem
> Jun  3 02:42:12 satyr kernel: type=1400 audit(1212486109.934:14): avc:  
> denied  { getattr } for  pid=1513 comm="fsck" name="/" dev=selinuxfs ino=1 
> scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 
> tcontext=system_u:object_r:security_t:s0 tclass=filesystem
> Jun  3 02:42:12 satyr kernel: type=1400 audit(1212486110.804:15): avc:  
> denied  { getattr } for  pid=1519 comm="mount" name="/" dev=selinuxfs ino=1 
> scontext=system_u:system_r:mount_t:s0 
> tcontext=system_u:object_r:security_t:s0 tclass=filesystem
> Jun  3 02:42:12 satyr kernel: type=1400 audit(1212486112.460:16): avc:  
> denied  { getattr } for  pid=1564 comm="swapon" name="/" dev=selinuxfs ino=1 
> scontext=system_u:system_r:fsadm_t:s0 
> tcontext=system_u:object_r:security_t:s0 tclass=filesystem
> Jun  3 02:42:13 satyr kernel: type=1400 audit(1212486124.825:21): avc:  
> denied  { getattr } for  pid=1907 comm="restorecond" name="/" dev=selinuxfs 
> ino=1 scontext=system_u:system_r:restorecond_t:s0 
> tcontext=system_u:object_r:security_t:s0 tclass=filesystem
> Jun  3 02:42:13 satyr kernel: type=1400 audit(1212486125.516:22): avc:  
> denied  { getattr } for  pid=2015 comm="iptables" name="/" dev=selinuxfs 
> ino=1 scontext=system_u:system_r:iptables_t:s0 
> tcontext=system_u:object_r:security_t:s0 tclass=filesystem
> Jun  3 02:42:13 satyr kernel: type=1400 audit(1212486127.411:23): avc:  
> denied  { getattr } for  pid=2888 comm="mcstransd" name="/" dev=selinuxfs 
> ino=1 scontext=system_u:system_r:setrans_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
> tcontext=system_u:object_r:security_t:s0 tclass=filesystem
> Jun  3 02:43:58 satyr dbus: avc:  denied  { send_msg } for 
> msgtype=method_call interface=org.freedesktop.DBus member=Hello 
> dest=org.freedesktop.DBus spid=4598 
> scontext=user_u:system_r:update_modules_t:s0 
> tcontext=user_u:system_r:update_modules_t:s0 tclass=dbus 
> Jun  3 02:43:59 satyr dbus: avc:  denied  { acquire_svc } for 
> service=org.kde.klauncher spid=4608 
> scontext=user_u:system_r:update_modules_t:s0 
> tcontext=user_u:system_r:update_modules_t:s0 tclass=dbus 
> 
> 
> Any help in getting this working would be very appreciated!
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: Installing Fedora-9 from Live CD - silent update

[Timothy Murphy]

Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:

>> If this normally occurs, it seems to me that it could cause problems,
>> since someone might easily re-boot while the installation
>> was only half-say through, leaving something of a mess.

> I think the PackageKit-Gnome's system tray icon shows what the package
> management system is currently doing. You can even click on it and see
> the queue of tasks to be done.

I don't see this icon in my panel.
What does it look like?
Note that I updated from the KDE Live CD.
Is this perhaps only present if one updates from the other,
presumably Gnome, Live CD?



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Problems in Fedora 8

[antonio . barragan]

Dear All

I have a linux box which is as follows:
MSI K8T Neo-V Mainboard, 1 GB RAM
Athlon 3000 processor
Samsung 160 GB HDD SATA
Seagate 40 GB IDE HDD
Lite-On DVD RW unit SATA
PNY Verto Nvidia 6200 graphics card, 256 MB, Digital and analog output
Samsung SyncMaster 940 BW monitor (19 inch, WXGA mode)
The machine is configured to boot from the DVD unit.

I have been trying  to install Fedora 8, but so far,  this is what happens:

- The first menu (text) where you could choose text mode installation 
goes so fast
  there is no time to do anything
- The splash menu does not appear at all
- After quite a while (several minutes) the following messages appear: 
\"loading vmlinuz\" and
 \"loading initrd.img\"
- A sequence of messages appear next, but they go quite fast. The last 
one is recognizing the VC
 as a Nvidia NV44A (GeForce 6200)
- Then the anaconda seems to start.
- From there on, a white screen appears, as if the graphics installation 
tried to start, but
 there\'s only the white screen without any kind of icons or messages 
and the system stays
 like that forever (I waited for half an hour and nothing else happened!)

- The monitor has 2 modes: Analog and Digital. I tried both with the 
same result

BTW, his happens the same with OpenSuse 10.3

I will greatly appreciate any help or hint with this

Thanks in advance
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Re: iptables help needed

[Simon Slater]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 15:32 +0100, Bill Crawford wrote:
> 2008/6/3 Simon Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> >I have run the script but the results may be a little unexpected.
> > Following are messages from the script.  None are as a result of
> > requesting web pages from the laptop, which still has the message that
> > the proxy server is refusing requests and wireshark shows the same
> > patterns.  These logged packets are when Evolution is fetching the
> > email.
> 
> Sounds like the reset is originating from outside your network, or
> there's a problem with the address ... is the IP address of the laptop
> definitely routable, or being NAT'd? You might just find that you're
> trying to route packets out onto the internet from addresses with the
> other end of your link doesn't accept packets for coming the other
> way, and is thus rejecting the packets. Or, the reset might be a
> side-effect of your provider running a "no servers" policy, ...
> 
G'day Bill,  as I mentioned to François, this same hardware setup
worked fine only a few weeks ago, so any "no server" policy shouldn't
have any effect.  The trouble only started when I went to upgrade a new
install of F8 and found I couldn't connect.  The laptop IP address is
192.168.0.6 and can be pinged and browsed from elsewhere on the LAN and
resolves to its hostname "Acer".

About being NAT'd, after running François script:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# iptables -t nat -L
Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination
MASQUERADE  all  --  192.168.0.0/24   anywhere

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#

which seems fine, but:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# netstat -M
netstat: no support for `ip_masquerade' on this system.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#

Does this mean something is wrong with NAT?



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Re: iptables help needed

[Simon Slater]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 17:40 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Le 03.06.2008 14:11, Simon Slater a écrit :
> | On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 18:17 +1000, Simon Slater wrote:
> |> On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 09:21 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> |>> I don't understand what you mean by "reset".
> |> Sorry François, I meant the TCP packet returned from the gateway has the
> |> flags reset and ack set, even after the command iptables -F.
> |>
> |> I will try this script now and post back.
> |>
> | I have run the script but the results may be a little unexpected.
> | Following are messages from the script.  None are as a result of
> | requesting web pages from the laptop, which still has the message that
> | the proxy server is refusing requests and wireshark shows the same
> | patterns.
> 
> I don't understand your config: 

I apologise for my terminology.  I've been working at this on and off
for some time and probably can't see the wood for the trees, so have
given a scattered explanation.

> you have a desktop connected to the
> Internet via ppp: 
Yes
> this desktop has a NIC (eth0) on which your laptop NIC
> is connected and you try to get Internet working on your laptop using
> your desktop as a gateway. Or is there a hub to which both desktop and
> laptop are connected?
There is a hub between laptop and desktop
> 
> In the first case (connection NIC to NIC) you need a cross ethernet
> cable, in the second case both ethernet cables are "straight" (don't not
> the exact word).
The cables are of the straight through type.  This same setup worked
only a few weeks ago with F7 before I installed F8. Same laptop, cables,
hub and desktop.
> 
> What is the proxy server you refer to?
> 
In previous posts I described what was being logged by Wireshark with
respect to tcp packets.  I forgot the broader picture of what Firefox on
the laptop was reporting, which is "Proxy server is refusing requests".
I have Firefox on the laptop

> |  These logged packets are when Evolution is fetching the
> | email.
> 
> The evolution request has been done from the desktop, not from the
> laptop. Am I right? Packets are dropped because port 110 is not allowed
> by the script, but, up to now this is not the problem.

Yes, Evolution runs on the desktop.  I added port 110 to your script
under the SMPT and NEWS section last night and those packets are not
being logged now.
> 
> The first thing is to explain your exact config.
I hope I have filled in the blanks for you.  Following are the logs from
the desktop this morning when i started the laptop and ran firefox.  The
web page it is looking for is http://start.fedoraproject.org/ .  Hope
this helps:

Jun  4 05:53:45 ipex pppd[8030]: LCP terminated by peer
Jun  4 05:53:45 ipex pppd[8030]: Connect time 480.0 minutes.
Jun  4 05:53:45 ipex pppd[8030]: Sent 397260 bytes, received 1968150
bytes.
Jun  4 05:53:48 ipex pppd[8030]: Connection terminated.
Jun  4 05:53:48 ipex pppd[8030]: Modem hangup
Jun  4 05:53:48 ipex pppd[8030]: Exit.
Jun  4 08:32:12 ipex pppd[10461]: pppd 2.4.4 started by root, uid 0
Jun  4 08:32:12 ipex pppd[10461]: Using interface ppp0
Jun  4 08:32:12 ipex pppd[10461]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
Jun  4 08:32:12 ipex pppd[10461]: PAP authentication succeeded
Jun  4 08:32:13 ipex pppd[10461]: local  IP address 59.101.220.253
Jun  4 08:32:13 ipex pppd[10461]: remote IP address 210.8.1.12
Jun  4 08:32:13 ipex pppd[10461]: primary   DNS address 203.8.183.1
Jun  4 08:32:13 ipex pppd[10461]: secondary DNS address 192.189.54.33
You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/root



Jun  4 08:49:51 ipex kernel: [IPTABLES DROP] : IN= OUT=ppp0
SRC=59.101.220.253 DST=203.8.183.1 LEN=108 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0 TTL=64
ID=1346 PROTO=ICMP TYPE=3 CODE=3 [SRC=203.8.183.1 DST=59.101.220.253
LEN=80 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=252 ID=5354 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=53 DPT=39780
LEN=60 ]
Jun  4 08:49:51 ipex kernel: [IPTABLES DROP] : IN= OUT=ppp0
SRC=59.101.220.253 DST=203.8.183.1 LEN=109 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0 TTL=64
ID=1347 PROTO=ICMP TYPE=3 CODE=3 [SRC=203.8.183.1 DST=59.101.220.253
LEN=81 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=252 ID=5356 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=53 DPT=39780
LEN=61 ]
Jun  4 08:49:51 ipex kernel: [IPTABLES DROP] : IN= OUT=ppp0
SRC=59.101.220.253 DST=203.8.183.1 LEN=108 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0 TTL=64
ID=1348 PROTO=ICMP TYPE=3 CODE=3 [SRC=203.8.183.1 DST=59.101.220.253
LEN=80 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=252 ID=5355 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=53 DPT=39780
LEN=60 ]
Jun  4 08:49:51 ipex kernel: [IPTABLES DROP] : IN= OUT=ppp0
SRC=59.101.220.253 DST=203.8.183.1 LEN=109 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0 TTL=64
ID=1349 PROTO=ICMP TYPE=3 CODE=3 [SRC=203.8.183.1 DST=59.101.220.253
LEN=81 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=252 ID=5357 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=53 DPT=39780
LEN=61 ]
Jun  4 08:49:51 ipex kernel: [IPTABLES DROP] : IN= OUT=ppp0
SRC=59.101.220.253 DST=203.8.183.1 LEN=109 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0 TTL=64
ID=1350 PROTO=ICMP TYPE=3 CODE=3 [SRC=203.8.183.1 DST=59.101.220.253
LEN=81 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=252 ID=5359 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=53 DPT=39780
LEN=61 ]
J

Re: how to change the default ugly background for gdm?

[Todd Zullinger]

Brian Millett wrote:
> I just can not express how much I deplore the cheese background for
> the GDM screen in F9.  I feel like I'm in a nightmare tron movie.
>
> How is that changed?

I've successfully used gconftool-2 to set a background for gdm:

su -c 'gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/var/lib/gdm/.gconf 
-s --type string /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename 
/path/to/background.jpg' gdm

If you run SELinux in enforcing mode, make sure that any image you
point to doesn't have a problematic context.  I managed to use an
image that was default_t and that didn't work so well. :)

Also ensure that the image you specify is readable by gdm.

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Re: KDE 4.1 screen cast.

[Rex Dieter]

Anne Wilson wrote:

> On Tuesday 03 June 2008 20:53:12 Rex Dieter wrote:
>> Anne Wilson wrote:
>> > Fair enough.  I haven't done much multimedia lately, so wasn't sure.
>> > Thanks for answering
>>
>> offtopic here, but couldn't resist...  As a bonus, kde-4.1's kwin will
>> include a plugin for generating screencasts (via libcaptury).  (which may
>> or may not be how that one was created).
>>
> Such a lot to look forward to.  What's your best guess on when?

When?  The feature is in kde-4.1beta now, 4.1 will be relasesed ~ July 29,
http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Release_Schedule
and be available in fedora (9) soonish after that.

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Re: remove liberation-fonts

[Frank Cox]

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:25:21 -0700
Jonathan Ryshpan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It looks like you're stuck, unless you rebuild the Open Office RPMs to
> remove their dependency on the Liberation fonts. 

He could probably install the program as downloaded directly from
http://www.openoffice.org and achieve much the same result.

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Re: Huh? ~/.xsession no longer honored?

[Rex Dieter]

Tom Horsley wrote:

> Finally got enough stuff working on F9 that I thought
> I could finish customizing it the way I have F8, but
> when I create a ~/.xsession script, it don't run it.
> What the heck do I have to do to get gdm to start
> my own custom session script in F9???

yum install xorg-x11-xinit-session

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Re: remove liberation-fonts

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 00:06 +0400, andrey i. mavlyanov wrote:
> Hello All!
> 
> How can I remove liberation-fonts package from my f9 system? I was trying to 
> do it with yumex, but it wants to remove OO.org either, which is not 
> acceptable at all for me...

It looks like you're stuck, unless you rebuild the Open Office RPMs to
remove their dependency on the Liberation fonts.  But why don't you like
these fonts?

jon

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Gnome Session Management under Fedora 9

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

On Tue, 13 May 2008 10:22:21 +0100 (02:22 PDT) Chris G. wrote:
> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:29:56AM +0930, Tim wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 18:40 +0100, Chris G wrote:
> > > Is it possible in Gnome to save a desktop layout and have it 
> > > restored when you start Gnome again? 
> > 
> > Have you played around with your sessions preferences, yet?
> > 
> No, because I don't use the Gnome window manager at the moment!  :-)
> 
> The whole reason for asking the question was to see if the Gnome
> window manager can do all the things that my current window manager
> (fvwm2) does, or at least if it can do the things that are important
> for me.  If it can then I will probably move to using Gnome rather
> than fvwm2 as it means I have a more 'default' set-up and getting
> answers to questions will be easier as I will be using the same set
> up as most other people.

Does anyone know anything about this?

I've been driven to using gnome instead of KDE, which I've been using
for maybe 5 years because the upgrade from KDE-3 to KDE-4 made it
impossible for me to use it (maybe this will change in the next year of
so).

KDE-3 saves the desktop layout, running processes, etc. whenever a
session ends.  I have been looking for a way to do this in Gnome; it
looks like something in the menu: System->Personal->Sessions would do
the job.  But this doesn't seem to be working.
 
In fact ...-> Startup Programs seems to require that the "Power Manager"
should be run at startup, but I don't see it on either panel.  Also the
"Setup" function seems to be undocumented for the 2.22 level of Gnome.

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Re: Unable to set LC_COLLATE system-wide

[John Horne]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 11:41 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 16:07 +0100, John Horne wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 07:52 -0700, gerrynix wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 13:41 +0100, John Horne wrote:
> > > > > > I have noticed that despite setting both LC_COLLATE and LANG in
> > > > > > the /etc/sysconfig/i18n file, it seems that the LC_COLLATE does
> > > not
> > > > > > get set for normal users, but does get set for root.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Did you reboot?
> > > > > 
> > > > Yup.
> > > 
> > > OK, just checking.
> > > 
> > > The action appears to be in the file /etc/profile.d/lang.sh, where there
> > > is a check for $HOME/.i18n. If this exists it's sourced, except that
> > > $LANG is preserved. Then there's a bunch of other special cases which
> > > you would need to pore over. Of course if the user doesn't have a
> > > $HOME/.i18n file it just sets some standard defaults.
> > > 
> > > I don't know if any of this explains what you're seeing.
> > > 
> > > poc
> > > 
> > > Not sure if this will fill your needs, but you will have no further
> > > probs... Place the assignments in the /etc/profile. Of course, they
> > > are then set into the environment on a per login basis. If you have
> > > *csh users, also place the assignments in the /etc/csh.login. 
> > >
> > Okay, thanks for the replies.
> > 
> > I'm still a bit confused though. On my F9 system I have
> > an /etc/sysconfig/i18n file, but no '$HOME/.i18n'. So according to
> > the /etc/profile.d/i18n file, it should execute:
> > 
> >   for langfile in /etc/sysconfig/i18n $HOME/.i18n ; do
> > [ -f $langfile ] && . $langfile && sourced=1
> >   done
> > 
> > Then a bit further on we have:
> > 
> >   [ -n "$LC_COLLATE" ] && export LC_COLLATE || unset LC_COLLATE
> > 
> > Since I have set LC_COLLATE="C" in /etc/sysconfig/i18n, then LC_COLLATE
> > should be exported.
> 
> Correct.
> 
> > Perhaps I need to test a little bit more.
> 
> All I can think of is that some other script is undoing what you set
> (e.g. /etc/profile or the user's ~/.bash_profile', `~/.bash_login', and
> `~/.profile').
> 
> One thing you might try is to temporarily add lines such as the
> following to each of the above:
> 
> echo .profile: $LC_COLLATE >> /tmp/BASH_DEBUG
> 
> making sure /tmp/BASH_DEBUG is world-writeable of course.
> 
Well, it gets a bit more confusing. I ran my F9 PC at runlevel 3 and it
showed that /etc/profile was run through once.
When /etc/profile.d/lang.sh ran it set LANG and LC_COLLATE. When I
actually logged in, both were set correctly. Since the RHEL servers run
at runlevel 3, this probably explains why the settings are correct on
there.

If I ran the PC to runlevel 5 (after rebooting) then logging showed
that /etc/profile was run through twice (and both times before
~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc ran). The first run was as above, but when
the second run started, LC_COLLATE was unset and was not set again (even
though lang.sh ran a second time).

The trouble is I do not know what the login sequence is when logging
into an X window system. As such, I cannot say what is being run between
the first run of /etc/profile and the second.

At runlevel 5, if I switch to a virtual console and log in, then both
variables are set correctly.

Since I'm a bit stumped as to where to go from here, but it definitely
seems that something 'odd' is going on, I think perhaps this should go
up to bugzilla?



John.

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Re: Slightly OT: Verify certificate?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 19:12 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> While reading my mail I have just received a pop-up asking me to verify that 
> the certificate identified as blah blah has the fingerprint more-blahs.  Just 
> how do you do that?

I don't think I've ever seen that. What mail client was it?

poc

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Re: Thunderbird

[John Thompson]

On 2008-06-03, Daniel B. Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Couple of problems:
>
> 1) Deleting any item(s) from the folders do not actually remove
> items from the folders.  It just does not appear in Thurnderbird
> and subsequently moved into "Trash".  But using a different
> IMAP client on another system still shows the item but read.
> Is there a configuration I can set to force a real deletion?

You need to "compact" the mailbox. 

> 2) I am not able to retrieve the address book from the IMAP
> server - what do I need to do to make this work?

I think you need an LDAP server to hold your Address Book remotely.

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Re: testing hardware - use what software ?

[Roger Heflin]

max bianco wrote:

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Roger Heflin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Robin Laing wrote:



Compiling up something called HPL (with something called MPI) at least does
nicely at finding that you have a memory/overheat/internal CPU issue.  If
the results corrupt or the machine crashes something is really wrong,
typically it won't tell you what is wrong, but if it successfully runs for a
long time then you can expect most things to be correct.Generally it
will at least crash the machine several times faster than most other
applications.

It won't find IO/PCI/Video issues unless they are really severe, though
generally most of the issues fall into what it does test.



Do you happen to know what the latest version is? I have turned up a
version 1.0a dated Jan 20, 2004. Do you know if that is the latest
version available.

Max



It does not change much, so that is the latest version.

You will also need a few other pieces of software, none of which will likely be 
in a rpm to get it to fully compile and run.  You will need mpich and either 
libgoto or atlas or AMD MKL or Intel MKL.   I have built it all 4 ways, the AMD 
and Intel libraries are probably the best choice, though the makefile will need 
to be adjusted to point the the library.  Both of those MKL libraries were the 
last time I checked available for free download.


And then you will have to define a HPL.dat file for your machine, once you know 
how to do it, really the only a couple of things in the file change when you 
move things to a new machine (size of the run), and it hpl can be ran across a 
network on multiple machines.


   Roger

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Re: PGP signatures.

[max bianco]

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-06-01 at 14:32 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>> Even if you are using it for security purposes, you should not need
>> to protect the public keys.
>
> Probably not what you meant, but just to be absolutely clear: you *do*
> need to protect public keys against modification (not against reading,
> after all they're public :-)
>
> poc
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Just for completeness and not meant to comment on this conversation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerckhoffs%27_principle

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Re: Is the single quote character the same as an apostrophe

[Mike Wright]

Nigel Henry wrote:
I'm having a problem setting my address properly on a French site. The address 
includes the line, 2 Chemin de L'AA. L'AA is composed of L plus apostrophe 
plus AA, in case you are seeing this different. When I set L'AA in my address 
box on this site, it views as set, but when I validate the address on the 
site it comes back as L\'AA, which if you arn't seeing this, is L plus 
backslash plus apostrophe plus AA. This is really wierd.


Is the single quote the same as an apostrophe? If not, where do I find the 
apostrophe character.


Very interesting question to me.

I think it is a "right single quote".



I'm using KDE, and a gb keyboard layout, and have also tried out the ca 
layout, which I use a lot for french accented characters on my qwerty 
keyboard.


I found a canadian-french keyboard layout on Wikipedia.  I think the
character you want is the one next to the "right shift" key.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:KB_Canadian_French.svg

Hope that's useful ;)



Posting from the ancient FC2, and Kmail.

btw: I do have other Fedora versions installed, and used up to F8, but FC2 is 
an old faithfull, and plods along on this machine, with virtually no 
problems, apart from the mouse pointer freezing on the odd occasion.


Thanks for any suggestions.

Nigel.


 




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Re: Is the single quote character the same as an apostrophe

[Nigel Henry]

On Tuesday 03 June 2008 22:09, TNWestTex wrote:
> Nigel Henry-3 wrote:
> > I'm having a problem setting my address properly on a French site. The
> > address
> > includes the line, 2 Chemin de L'AA. L'AA is composed of L plus
> > apostrophe plus AA, in case you are seeing this different. When I set
> > L'AA in my address
> > box on this site, it views as set, but when I validate the address on the
> > site it comes back as L\'AA, which if you arn't seeing this, is L plus
> > backslash plus apostrophe plus AA. This is really wierd.
> >
> > Is the single quote the same as an apostrophe? If not, where do I find
> > the apostrophe character.
> >
> > I'm using KDE, and a gb keyboard layout, and have also tried out the ca
> > layout, which I use a lot for french accented characters on my qwerty
> > keyboard.
> >
> > Posting from the ancient FC2, and Kmail.
> >
> > btw: I do have other Fedora versions installed, and used up to F8, but
> > FC2 is
> > an old faithfull, and plods along on this machine, with virtually no
> > problems, apart from the mouse pointer freezing on the odd occasion.
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions.
> >
> > Nigel.
>
> Depends on the context.  The single quote has special meaning to the shell.
> In text it is an apotrophe.
> Guessing, the backslash keeps the quote in place until the mail program can
> do its own internal parsing as
> a part of the address.
>
> Robert McBroom

I've just been back to the site, and whereas the address had previously shown 
L\'AA, it now shows L'AA, which is correct. It's a bit of a mystery, but the 
site for my personal info is at least now showing my correct address.

Thanks for the reply Robert.

Nigel.

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Re: testing hardware - use what software ?

[max bianco]

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Roger Heflin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robin Laing wrote:
>>
>> max bianco wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:

 On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 00:08 +1000, David Timms wrote:
>
> Yes, and shoot it with the heat gun and so on. But is there some
> software designed to do stress testing ?

 I've often asked something similar from PC shops, as their testing
 seemed to comprise of just seeing if it'll boot and stay running for
 half an hour...

>>> Yes, people do not realize how hard it is to pinpoint a hardware
>>> problem. Many are under the impression there is some magic involved
>>> and results should be instant and/or provide instant "Star Trek" style
>>> solutions. We are not quite there yet , especially as far down the
>>> totem pole as your average pc repair shop. I try to use the computer
>>> as much as possible but time is money and you can easily run up a bill
>>> that exceeds the cost of a cheap machine quite quickly. However if you
>>> feel you have a genuine hardware problem then I would do the
>>> following. The order will vary depending on where you think, based on
>>> your observations, the problem lies.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> SNIP.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> All comments, criticisms, questions, pointing out of incorrect info
>>> welcome and appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>
>> Very good points.
>>
>> Back in the 386/486 days, I had an ISA board that would run a bunch of
>> hardware and software tests to check the hardware.  Not perfect but sure
>> helped.
>>
>> A good digital volt meter to measure the voltage rails.  A power supply
>> that is close to being out of limits could drift enough to cause the
>> computer to freeze at strange times.  The BIOS voltage readings are not
>> always that accurate.
>>
>> Also, when cleaning out the dust.  Make sure that you know where all the
>> jumper settings are on the motherboard.  Cost me many hours when one of the
>> jumper shorting connectors came off on my computer.
>>
>> Also confirm that the latest BIOS is installed.  Even on new motherboards.
>>  This fixed a freezing issue on a new computer for me. Worked okay with 4Gig
>> of ram but not 8 gig.  Memtest worked great.
>>
>
> Compiling up something called HPL (with something called MPI) at least does
> nicely at finding that you have a memory/overheat/internal CPU issue.  If
> the results corrupt or the machine crashes something is really wrong,
> typically it won't tell you what is wrong, but if it successfully runs for a
> long time then you can expect most things to be correct.Generally it
> will at least crash the machine several times faster than most other
> applications.
>
> It won't find IO/PCI/Video issues unless they are really severe, though
> generally most of the issues fall into what it does test.
>

Do you happen to know what the latest version is? I have turned up a
version 1.0a dated Jan 20, 2004. Do you know if that is the latest
version available.

Max

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Re: remove liberation-fonts

[Frank Cox]

On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:27:00 +0400
"andrey i. mavlyanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What is the place to configure this?

Read up on how to create a default template in the OpenOffice help function.

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Re: remove liberation-fonts

[andrey i. mavlyanov]

Rex Dieter пишет:

andrey i. mavlyanov wrote:


How can I remove liberation-fonts package from my f9 system? I was trying
to do it with yumex, but it wants to remove OO.org either, which is not
acceptable at all for me...


unacceptable to you or not, OO.org defaults use liberation, and so have a
dependency on it.


ok. another question - what is the steps to make "native microsoft" Arial, 
Times and etc. MS Fonts to be the preffered for their name?


Currently I could see that in most places the Arial is not MS Arial, but 
Liberation Serif.


What is the place to configure this?


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Re: KDE 4.1 screen cast.

[Arthur Pemberton]

2008/6/3 Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Tuesday 03 June 2008 20:53:12 Rex Dieter wrote:
>> Anne Wilson wrote:
>> > Fair enough.  I haven't done much multimedia lately, so wasn't sure.
>> > Thanks for answering
>>
>> offtopic here, but couldn't resist...  As a bonus, kde-4.1's kwin will
>> include a plugin for generating screencasts (via libcaptury).  (which may
>> or may not be how that one was created).
>>
> Such a lot to look forward to.  What's your best guess on when?
>
> Anne

More hands are needed, esp. within Fedora
( I say this shamefully as I am as guilty as most)

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Re: Is the single quote character the same as an apostrophe

[TNWestTex]

Nigel Henry-3 wrote:
> 
> I'm having a problem setting my address properly on a French site. The
> address 
> includes the line, 2 Chemin de L'AA. L'AA is composed of L plus apostrophe 
> plus AA, in case you are seeing this different. When I set L'AA in my
> address 
> box on this site, it views as set, but when I validate the address on the 
> site it comes back as L\'AA, which if you arn't seeing this, is L plus 
> backslash plus apostrophe plus AA. This is really wierd.
> 
> Is the single quote the same as an apostrophe? If not, where do I find the 
> apostrophe character.
> 
> I'm using KDE, and a gb keyboard layout, and have also tried out the ca 
> layout, which I use a lot for french accented characters on my qwerty 
> keyboard.
> 
> Posting from the ancient FC2, and Kmail.
> 
> btw: I do have other Fedora versions installed, and used up to F8, but FC2
> is 
> an old faithfull, and plods along on this machine, with virtually no 
> problems, apart from the mouse pointer freezing on the odd occasion.
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> Nigel.
> 
> 
Depends on the context.  The single quote has special meaning to the shell. 
In text it is an apotrophe.  
Guessing, the backslash keeps the quote in place until the mail program can
do its own internal parsing as 
a part of the address.

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Re: KDE 4.1 screen cast.

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 03 June 2008 20:53:12 Rex Dieter wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Fair enough.  I haven't done much multimedia lately, so wasn't sure.
> > Thanks for answering
>
> offtopic here, but couldn't resist...  As a bonus, kde-4.1's kwin will
> include a plugin for generating screencasts (via libcaptury).  (which may
> or may not be how that one was created).
>
Such a lot to look forward to.  What's your best guess on when?

Anne


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Re: remove liberation-fonts

[Rex Dieter]

andrey i. mavlyanov wrote:

> How can I remove liberation-fonts package from my f9 system? I was trying
> to do it with yumex, but it wants to remove OO.org either, which is not
> acceptable at all for me...

unacceptable to you or not, OO.org defaults use liberation, and so have a
dependency on it.

If you really want to fight that:
rpm -e --nodeps liberation-fonts
but then if anything breaks, you get to keep the pieces.

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remove liberation-fonts

[andrey i. mavlyanov]

Hello All!

How can I remove liberation-fonts package from my f9 system? I was trying to 
do it with yumex, but it wants to remove OO.org either, which is not 
acceptable at all for me...


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Re: KDE 4.1 screen cast.

[Rex Dieter]

Anne Wilson wrote:

> Fair enough.  I haven't done much multimedia lately, so wasn't sure. 
> Thanks for answering

offtopic here, but couldn't resist...  As a bonus, kde-4.1's kwin will
include a plugin for generating screencasts (via libcaptury).  (which may
or may not be how that one was created).

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Is the single quote character the same as an apostrophe

[Nigel Henry]

I'm having a problem setting my address properly on a French site. The address 
includes the line, 2 Chemin de L'AA. L'AA is composed of L plus apostrophe 
plus AA, in case you are seeing this different. When I set L'AA in my address 
box on this site, it views as set, but when I validate the address on the 
site it comes back as L\'AA, which if you arn't seeing this, is L plus 
backslash plus apostrophe plus AA. This is really wierd.

Is the single quote the same as an apostrophe? If not, where do I find the 
apostrophe character.

I'm using KDE, and a gb keyboard layout, and have also tried out the ca 
layout, which I use a lot for french accented characters on my qwerty 
keyboard.

Posting from the ancient FC2, and Kmail.

btw: I do have other Fedora versions installed, and used up to F8, but FC2 is 
an old faithfull, and plods along on this machine, with virtually no 
problems, apart from the mouse pointer freezing on the odd occasion.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Nigel.


 

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Re: testing hardware - use what software ?

[Roger Heflin]

Robin Laing wrote:

max bianco wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 00:08 +1000, David Timms wrote:

Yes, and shoot it with the heat gun and so on. But is there some
software designed to do stress testing ?

I've often asked something similar from PC shops, as their testing
seemed to comprise of just seeing if it'll boot and stay running for
half an hour...


Yes, people do not realize how hard it is to pinpoint a hardware
problem. Many are under the impression there is some magic involved
and results should be instant and/or provide instant "Star Trek" style
solutions. We are not quite there yet , especially as far down the
totem pole as your average pc repair shop. I try to use the computer
as much as possible but time is money and you can easily run up a bill
that exceeds the cost of a cheap machine quite quickly. However if you
feel you have a genuine hardware problem then I would do the
following. The order will vary depending on where you think, based on
your observations, the problem lies.




SNIP.




All comments, criticisms, questions, pointing out of incorrect info
welcome and appreciated.


Max



Very good points.

Back in the 386/486 days, I had an ISA board that would run a bunch of 
hardware and software tests to check the hardware.  Not perfect but sure 
helped.


A good digital volt meter to measure the voltage rails.  A power supply 
that is close to being out of limits could drift enough to cause the 
computer to freeze at strange times.  The BIOS voltage readings are not 
always that accurate.


Also, when cleaning out the dust.  Make sure that you know where all the 
jumper settings are on the motherboard.  Cost me many hours when one of 
the jumper shorting connectors came off on my computer.


Also confirm that the latest BIOS is installed.  Even on new 
motherboards.  This fixed a freezing issue on a new computer for me. 
Worked okay with 4Gig of ram but not 8 gig.  Memtest worked great.




Compiling up something called HPL (with something called MPI) at least does 
nicely at finding that you have a memory/overheat/internal CPU issue.  If the 
results corrupt or the machine crashes something is really wrong, typically it 
won't tell you what is wrong, but if it successfully runs for a long time then 
you can expect most things to be correct.Generally it will at least crash 
the machine several times faster than most other applications.


It won't find IO/PCI/Video issues unless they are really severe, though 
generally most of the issues fall into what it does test.


   Roger

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Re: openoffice command line printing...

[Phil Meyer]

Kevin Martin wrote:
What I'm trying to do is convert a bunch of Excel files to PDF.  I can 
open the Excel files in oocalc and export to PDF but I've been reading 
that you can do this same thing by using Cups-PDF and "soffice -pt 
"Cups-PDF" file.xls' and it will fire up oocalc and, essentially, use 
the Cups-PDF "printer" to save the file out as a .pdf file.  Well, 
that's not working for me.  I never get an output file when I run the 
command from the command line and I can't figure out why.  I'm running 
on Fedora 8 with the latest openoffice, cups, cups-pdf rpms for that 
platform.  Can somebody else try on their end and see if it works for 
them?  FWIW, "soffice -p file.xls" doesn't print my file to the 
default printer either.


Thanks.

Kevin



There are several tricks to this.
First, to do it remotely, or from an associated command line, you need 
to fun a fake X server and set the display to that.


Second, you need to set up a macro to do exactly what you want when 
evoked, and that includes writing of the output.


I cannot include the macro here because I did not write it.

We use:

Xvfb -pixdepths 8 24 -fbdir /usr/tmp

Here is a script (which I wrote) we use on a web based tool to convert 
MS files:


#!/bin/bash

if [ -z "$1" ]
   then
   echo "Usage: $0 "
   exit -1
fi

DISPLAY=:0
export DISPLAY

# macro is in: ~/.openoffice.org2.0/user/basic/Standard/Module1.xba

DOC=$1
  

/usr/bin/oowriter -invisible 
"macro:///Standard.Module1.ConvertWordToPDF($DOC)"


exit $?


Good Luck!

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openoffice command line printing...

[Kevin Martin]

What I'm trying to do is convert a bunch of Excel files to PDF.  I can open the Excel files in oocalc and export to PDF but I've 
been reading that you can do this same thing by using Cups-PDF and "soffice -pt "Cups-PDF" file.xls' and it will fire up oocalc and, 
essentially, use the Cups-PDF "printer" to save the file out as a .pdf file.  Well, that's not working for me.  I never get an 
output file when I run the command from the command line and I can't figure out why.  I'm running on Fedora 8 with the latest 
openoffice, cups, cups-pdf rpms for that platform.  Can somebody else try on their end and see if it works for them?  FWIW, "soffice 
-p file.xls" doesn't print my file to the default printer either.


Thanks.

Kevin

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Re: how to change the default ugly background for gdm?

[Kayvan A. Sylvan]

On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 11:55:06AM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 01:13 +0930, Tim wrote:
> > Even the old plain greeter was less crap than this.  I'm thinking of
> > seeing whether GDM can be replaced, completely.  Perhaps XDM, if I
> > don't want to go down the KDE route.
> 
> You can use KDM with Gnome.

Which files do you change?

I set up /etc/sysconfig/desktop with DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE and restarted
the X server, but there was no change.

The same login screen (with all the users listed, including
pseudo-accounts for system utilities) presented itself when I would
rather just have a simple login/password box.

Thanks for any hints,

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Re: KDE 4.1 screen cast.

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 03 June 2008 19:48:08 Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> 2008/6/3 Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Tuesday 03 June 2008 18:31:05 Gilboa Davara wrote:
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> Just saw this KDE4.1 screen cast:
> >> http://www.ereslibre.es/?p=104
> >> (http://media.ereslibre.es/2008/06/kde41.ogg)
> >>
> >> Very impressive.
> >
> > Very.  It looks as though many of the things we have been looking for are
> > there.  Was there actually any sound in the screencast?  I watched, but
> > it was silent.  Perhaps I'm missing a package.
> >
> > Anne
>
> no sound
>
Fair enough.  I haven't done much multimedia lately, so wasn't sure.  Thanks 
for answering

Anne



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Re: KDE 4.1 screen cast.

[Arthur Pemberton]

2008/6/3 Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Tuesday 03 June 2008 18:31:05 Gilboa Davara wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Just saw this KDE4.1 screen cast:
>> http://www.ereslibre.es/?p=104
>> (http://media.ereslibre.es/2008/06/kde41.ogg)
>>
>> Very impressive.
>>
> Very.  It looks as though many of the things we have been looking for are
> there.  Was there actually any sound in the screencast?  I watched, but it
> was silent.  Perhaps I'm missing a package.
>
> Anne

no sound

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Re: KDE 4.1 screen cast.

[Anne Wilson]

On Tuesday 03 June 2008 18:31:05 Gilboa Davara wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Just saw this KDE4.1 screen cast:
> http://www.ereslibre.es/?p=104
> (http://media.ereslibre.es/2008/06/kde41.ogg)
>
> Very impressive.
>
Very.  It looks as though many of the things we have been looking for are 
there.  Was there actually any sound in the screencast?  I watched, but it 
was silent.  Perhaps I'm missing a package.

Anne


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Slightly OT: Verify certificate?

[Anne Wilson]

While reading my mail I have just received a pop-up asking me to verify that 
the certificate identified as blah blah has the fingerprint more-blahs.  Just 
how do you do that?

Anne


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Re: xorg-x11-drv-mga problems

[Braden McDaniel]

Frederick William New wrote:

Does anyone else have problems with the xorg-x11-drv-mga driver on Fedora 9? 
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=442533)


Yes:

  http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446726

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Re: Thunderbird

[Craig White]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 10:21 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> Couple of problems:
> 
> 1) Deleting any item(s) from the folders do not actually remove
> items from the folders.  It just does not appear in Thurnderbird
> and subsequently moved into "Trash".  But using a different
> IMAP client on another system still shows the item but read.
> Is there a configuration I can set to force a real deletion?

This is normal IMAP behavior. IMAP sets 'flags' and when you delete an
e-mail, it's flagged as deleted. You can choose to 'compact' a folder
(file menu), right click on any folder and chose 'compact' or in Account
Settings, you can choose to 'expunge' on exit. Expunge is the normal
lingo for deleting messages that have 'delete flag set on'

> 
> 2) I am not able to retrieve the address book from the IMAP
> server - what do I need to do to make this work?

IMAP servers don't generally have anything to do with Address Books.
Perhaps you need to tell us what kind of server you are dealing with.
Perhaps it is an LDAP Address Book that you need to add.

Craig

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KDE 4.1 screen cast.

[Gilboa Davara]

Hello all,

Just saw this KDE4.1 screen cast:
http://www.ereslibre.es/?p=104
(http://media.ereslibre.es/2008/06/kde41.ogg)

Very impressive.

Enjoy,
- Gilboa
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Re: Thunderbird

[andrey i. mavlyanov]

Daniel B. Thurman пишет:


Couple of problems:

1) Deleting any item(s) from the folders do not actually remove
   items from the folders.  It just does not appear in Thurnderbird
   and subsequently moved into "Trash".  But using a different
   IMAP client on another system still shows the item but read.
   Is there a configuration I can set to force a real deletion?



Use File -> Purge folders from time to time (or after using TB).

You can also check "Purge "INBOX" folder on exit" option in the server 
settings of the imap account.



2) I am not able to retrieve the address book from the IMAP
   server - what do I need to do to make this work?


imap server does not handle the address book functionality. It is LDAP 
server who do this thing. Check out you ldap settings.



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Thunderbird

[Daniel B. Thurman]

Couple of problems:

1) Deleting any item(s) from the folders do not actually remove
   items from the folders.  It just does not appear in Thurnderbird
   and subsequently moved into "Trash".  But using a different
   IMAP client on another system still shows the item but read.
   Is there a configuration I can set to force a real deletion?

2) I am not able to retrieve the address book from the IMAP
   server - what do I need to do to make this work?

Thanks!
Dan

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Re: surely an ordinary package shouldn't depend on devel packages?

[Michael Schwendt]

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:49:52 +0100, Brian Morrison wrote:

> Michael Schwendt wrote:
> >> I'd wager that xine has libxine statically linked and/or compiled in.
> > 
> > No, libxine.so is just a symlink pointing to the real and versioned
> > library file in the xine-lib package. This symlink is needed only when
> > building software -- it's the link that makes the -lxine linker
> > command work.
> 
> Yes, Redhat and Fedora have always done this.
> 
> The executables look for .so. and that is a symlink to
> .so. in one of the ld.so.conf paths.

It's the "right thing to do" and not specific to Red Hat or Fedora.

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Boot Options for Fedora 9 LiveCD

[Rick Bilonick]

I'm confused as to what to include for boot options when booting the
Fedora 9 LiveCD. I'm trying to get this to work for my HP 2133 so I can
test out F9. It boots from the external DVD/CD drive but ends up with a
sort of blank screen. I can't get to a console. I did try to remove the
"rhgb" and "quiet" from the boot command. This showed a lot more info
and for a time I was able to ctrl alt f1 to a console but it locks up
and the blank screen returns.

Could someone suggest what options might be useful? (To get the boot
command I hit tab.)

Rick B.

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Re: VIM Q again

[Rick Stevens]

Ed Greshko wrote:

Rick Stevens wrote:


The Z80 had:

JR idx(unconditional)
JR Z,idx (jump relative if zero)
JR NZ,idx (jump relative if non-zero)
JR C,idx (jump relative if carry)
JR NC,idx (jump relative if non-carry)

And one of my favorites for loops:

DJNZ idx (decrement and jump relative if non-zero)

So, yes, the Z80 had conditional relative jumps.  It also had that nice
set of secondary registers...very handy for interrupt processing.


Oh, no!   You've started my "flashback" processor running.  I'm not 
going to get any work done today.  Please stop.  :-) :-)




Whoops!  Sorry!  I know how painful that can be.  I recall the old
4004...damn!  Got me too.  :-)

Programmers' Cheer, circa 1979:

Rotate Left
Rotate Right
Push On
Pop Off
Byte!  Byte!  Byte!

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Re: PackageKit bug report -- where?

[Beartooth]

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:13:18 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:

> Beartooth wrote:
> 
> 
>> Poking around http://packagekit.org/, I got to a page that looks like
>> it'll let me report my crash-on-launch bug there; and also a new (to
>> me) command ( /usr/sbin/packagekitd --verbose) that got me a 13 KB
>> report.
>> 
>> Should I send this to the packagekit folks, referring to the existing
>> RedHat bugzilla report, or add it to that, or do both?
> 
> Add to RH bugzilla, imo.
> But doing both wouldn't be wrong either, and then devs/maintainers can
> triage it as they see fit.
> 
> -- Rex

I've since noticed that Richard Hughes, of PackageKit fame inter 
alia, has recently started working at RedHat -- and is in fact following 
this bug there. 

Thanks for the advice just the same, though; I'll keep it in mind 
next time I discover a similar situation.

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Re: how to change the default ugly background for gdm?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 01:13 +0930, Tim wrote:
> Even the old plain greeter was less crap than this.  I'm thinking of
> seeing whether GDM can be replaced, completely.  Perhaps XDM, if I
> don't want to go down the KDE route.

You can use KDM with Gnome.

poc

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Re: End of Support for F8?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 11:45 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 16:11 +0100, John Horne wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 10:43 -0400, Henok Mikre wrote:
> > > Does anyone know the end of support date for Fedora 8? I could only
> > > find the one for FC6 at
> > > http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-9/f-9-all-tasks.html
> > > which is set for Fri 2007-12-07. 
> > > 
> > A look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LifeCycle
> > 
> > indicates that end of life will be one month after the release of Fedora
> > 10. And the F10 schedule is at
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/Schedule
> > 
> > which indicates release on 28 October 2008. So, F8 end of life will be
> > about December 2008 (if things go on schedule!).
> 
> And for those of use without time machines? :-) (the original page is
> clearly wrong in the year).

Sorry sorry sorry!!

Now I need the time machine to undo stupid comment.

poc

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system is to be able to yell NO! a microsecond after hitting
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Re: End of Support for F8?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 16:11 +0100, John Horne wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 10:43 -0400, Henok Mikre wrote:
> > Does anyone know the end of support date for Fedora 8? I could only
> > find the one for FC6 at
> > http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-9/f-9-all-tasks.html
> > which is set for Fri 2007-12-07. 
> > 
> A look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LifeCycle
> 
> indicates that end of life will be one month after the release of Fedora
> 10. And the F10 schedule is at
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/Schedule
> 
> which indicates release on 28 October 2008. So, F8 end of life will be
> about December 2008 (if things go on schedule!).

And for those of use without time machines? :-) (the original page is
clearly wrong in the year).

poc

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Re: F-9 asking the same question twice

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 16:07 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> When I go to f=>Leave I am asked
> if I want to Shutdown or Restart.
> If I choose Shutdown I am then asked again
> if I want to Shutdown or Restart.

This is a known bug (don't have the reference at hand, sorry).

poc

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Re: Unable to set LC_COLLATE system-wide

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 16:07 +0100, John Horne wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 07:52 -0700, gerrynix wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 13:41 +0100, John Horne wrote:
> > > > > I have noticed that despite setting both LC_COLLATE and LANG in
> > > > > the /etc/sysconfig/i18n file, it seems that the LC_COLLATE does
> > not
> > > > > get set for normal users, but does get set for root.
> > > > 
> > > > Did you reboot?
> > > > 
> > > Yup.
> > 
> > OK, just checking.
> > 
> > The action appears to be in the file /etc/profile.d/lang.sh, where there
> > is a check for $HOME/.i18n. If this exists it's sourced, except that
> > $LANG is preserved. Then there's a bunch of other special cases which
> > you would need to pore over. Of course if the user doesn't have a
> > $HOME/.i18n file it just sets some standard defaults.
> > 
> > I don't know if any of this explains what you're seeing.
> > 
> > poc
> > 
> > Not sure if this will fill your needs, but you will have no further
> > probs... Place the assignments in the /etc/profile. Of course, they
> > are then set into the environment on a per login basis. If you have
> > *csh users, also place the assignments in the /etc/csh.login. 
> >
> Okay, thanks for the replies.
> 
> I'm still a bit confused though. On my F9 system I have
> an /etc/sysconfig/i18n file, but no '$HOME/.i18n'. So according to
> the /etc/profile.d/i18n file, it should execute:
> 
>   for langfile in /etc/sysconfig/i18n $HOME/.i18n ; do
> [ -f $langfile ] && . $langfile && sourced=1
>   done
> 
> Then a bit further on we have:
> 
>   [ -n "$LC_COLLATE" ] && export LC_COLLATE || unset LC_COLLATE
> 
> Since I have set LC_COLLATE="C" in /etc/sysconfig/i18n, then LC_COLLATE
> should be exported.

Correct.

> Perhaps I need to test a little bit more.

All I can think of is that some other script is undoing what you set
(e.g. /etc/profile or the user's ~/.bash_profile', `~/.bash_login', and
`~/.profile').

One thing you might try is to temporarily add lines such as the
following to each of the above:

echo .profile: $LC_COLLATE >> /tmp/BASH_DEBUG

making sure /tmp/BASH_DEBUG is world-writeable of course.

poc

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Re: how to change the default ugly background for gdm?

[andrey i. mavlyanov]

Brian Millett wrote:
I just can not express how much I deplore the cheese background for the 
GDM screen in F9.  I feel like I'm in a nightmare tron movie.


How is that changed?



http://hacktux.com/fedora/9/gdm



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Re: install from f9live on 64bit system

[Christopher A. Williams]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 10:58 -0400, Mike Burger wrote:
> > HI!
> >
> > Is it ok to use the livecd to install on a 64bit system?
> > will I get the 64bit architecture?
> 
> That will probably depend on whether or not you downloaded the 64bit livecd.

Nothing probable about that at all.

32-bit livecd = 32-bit system
64-bit livedvd = 64-bit system


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Re: Installing Fedora-9 from Live CD - silent update

[Tim]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 18:29 +0300, Joonas Sarajärvi wrote:
> I think the PackageKit-Gnome's system tray icon shows what the package
> management system is currently doing. You can even click on it and see
> the queue of tasks to be done.

Only that it's doing something, not what it's doing.  I've sat there
watching flashing bars and a vague working out dependencies, and
installing files titles, but no details about *what* is being installed.

I've turned it off, and will carry on what I've done the last few years.
Type "yum update" on a command line, and watch the proceedings.

Not impressed with Fedora 9, so far.  I can see this is going to be
another release where standard advice is going to be - turn off the
package kit updater, remove pulseaudio, etc.

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firstboot should ask more questions, like your locale

[Tim]

Having just installed Fedora 9, I was faced with either having to
manually set the locale for each user (all the more worse by the
defective GDM which doesn't show the option the first time around), or
install another package to set the default locale for something other
than the inappropriate US locale.

Firstboot should get you to set your default locale, when you do things
like select timezones.  Probably with setting one preselecting the
other.  e.g. Setting Australia/Adelaide should set an Australian locale,
but the next step could change the locale without changing the timezone,
should someone want something else on a mobile computer.

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Re: Dual monitors in F9 ?

[linuxguy]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 07:49 -0500, Stephen Berg (Contractor) wrote:

> I used the kmod packages from Livna and have a dual head setup working 
> just fine at home.  Did you run the nvidia-xconfig utility?  That seemed 
> to do the trick for me without any manual tweaking needed.

Yeah, I used the utility.   It isn't an Xorg.config problem.   Something
is wrong elsewhere.   It starts booting a new session in Twinview mode.
The task bar at the bottom gets drawn.  The mouse works, but nothing
else.

I'm not sure if its a KDE bug or an Xorg bug.

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Wiki Support?

[Jonathan Allen]

Is there a mailing list like this one for supporting a Wiki running
on Fedora?

I have done the installation of the latest version but hit this error:

  Fatal error: Class 'DOMDocument' not found in
/share/wiki/includes/Preprocessor_DOM.php on 566

Jonathan

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Re: surely an ordinary package shouldn't depend on devel packages?

[Brian Morrison]

Michael Schwendt wrote:
>> I'd wager that xine has libxine statically linked and/or compiled in.
> 
> No, libxine.so is just a symlink pointing to the real and versioned
> library file in the xine-lib package. This symlink is needed only when
> building software -- it's the link that makes the -lxine linker
> command work.

Yes, Redhat and Fedora have always done this.

The executables look for .so. and that is a symlink to
.so. in one of the ld.so.conf paths.

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Re: how to change the default ugly background for gdm?

[Tim]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 09:22 -0500, Brian Millett wrote:
> I just can not express how much I deplore the cheese background for
> the GDM screen in F9. 

Seconded.  But to me it looks like there's a UFO hovering overhead,
coming down to get you...  ;-)

The whole thing's an ugly retrograde step (loss of options, huge user
picker that can't be avoided, annoying slow animations, and the thing
takes an age to load on a slower computer).

Even the old plain greeter was less crap than this.  I'm thinking of
seeing whether GDM can be replaced, completely.  Perhaps XDM, if I don't
want to go down the KDE route.

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Re: iptables help needed

[François Patte]

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Le 03.06.2008 14:11, Simon Slater a écrit :
| On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 18:17 +1000, Simon Slater wrote:
|> On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 09:21 +0200, François Patte wrote:
|>> I don't understand what you mean by "reset".
|> Sorry François, I meant the TCP packet returned from the gateway has the
|> flags reset and ack set, even after the command iptables -F.
|>
|> I will try this script now and post back.
|>
|   I have run the script but the results may be a little unexpected.
| Following are messages from the script.  None are as a result of
| requesting web pages from the laptop, which still has the message that
| the proxy server is refusing requests and wireshark shows the same
| patterns.

I don't understand your config: you have a desktop connected to the
Internet via ppp: this desktop has a NIC (eth0) on which your laptop NIC
is connected and you try to get Internet working on your laptop using
your desktop as a gateway. Or is there a hub to which both desktop and
laptop are connected?

In the first case (connection NIC to NIC) you need a cross ethernet
cable, in the second case both ethernet cables are "straight" (don't not
the exact word).

What is the proxy server you refer to?


|  These logged packets are when Evolution is fetching the
| email.

The evolution request has been done from the desktop, not from the
laptop. Am I right? Packets are dropped because port 110 is not allowed
by the script, but, up to now this is not the problem.

The first thing is to explain your exact config.
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Re: install from f9live on 64bit system

[Henning Larsen]

On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 10:58 -0400, Mike Burger wrote:
> > HI!
> >
> > Is it ok to use the livecd to install on a 64bit system?
> > will I get the 64bit architecture?
> 
> That will probably depend on whether or not you downloaded the 64bit livecd.
> 
> -- 
I'm sorry, I did forget there was livecd's for each arch...

Henning

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