Re: Announcing the fedoraLife Concept!
Máirín Duffy wrote: RazGriz wrote: Hi, i think that the problem is not inside the product *(fedora) but inside some minds...there are some people inside the project fedora *(here in my country i can see it every day in some ambassadors and other members of the project), they just say : Fedora is not for everyone cause we don't wanna be baby seeter of nuggets, or help then to play mp3 or install a proprietary driver etc. We need bring Re-humanizer the project if of course we want people that use ubuntu today. Well, I for one cannot comprehend this: I personally know people who are Fedora Ambassadors but use Ubuntu on their personal computers (thats is, when not using Windows). Why? Why aren't they Ubuntu Ambassadors instead? But this is orthogonal to our topic. First of all, you told me that you think the problem is not in the product, but instead the problem is in people's minds. Then you talked about how Fedora does not have mp3 patents and proprietary drivers. The omissions of that software are very much fundamental to Fedora's purpose and philosophy, and they are very much a part of what Fedora *IS*. We won't be adding that software anytime soon. The sad fact is that *a lot* of people do not care about the *freedom* part. They just want something *gratis*. Here is a good read about this: http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3733286 I really would prefer us to *not* talk about changing what Fedora is here. I would rather we talk about how we can best market Fedora as it is. Having a truly free operating system really is not mutually exclusive with having a usable operating system. There is nothing about being free and doing the right thing that means life must be hard. People perceive it as being such. How can we change people's perceptions of Fedora's freedom so that they are less afraid of it? But we also should understand there are some thing we cannot have (in the near future or ever). But those can be seen as niches. Again, let's not change Fedora, please! +1 Second, in an odd way of thinking This has already happened, sort of. The Fedora Art Studio spin does use that is found within the distribution to build something that you here have coined 'fedoraLife'. The Art Studio spin is currently on hold. Help needed. Well, i wanna help with it, i have a lot of experience with computer graphics made with free software , how i can help? is there a link to the sub project? can i bring more people to help? The most needed thing right now is packaging. Duvelle provided a link earlier in the thread. I will re-post it: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/FedoraArtStudio Duvelle, Raz, Mo: let's take this on the Art list, where is the right place... I would love if you would be willing to help with this spin. I built a ks file for the spin a long time ago, it probably sucks and needs some modifications, but it is here: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/b7/Artwork_ArtTeamProjects_FedoraArtStudio_artstudio-ks-oct_6_2007.cfg You will also need to add the following packages to it: * gimp-lqr-plugin * gimp-resynthesizer * ufraw-gimp * nip2 * GREYCstoration-gimp * mathmap We could also use some help getting fonts packaged up for Fedora so they can be included in the Art Studio spin. There is a list of appropriately-licensed fonts only needing packagers here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Triaging/Pipeline/WishList You can absolutely bring more people to help - we need all the help we can get! -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[Fwd: Re: Announcing the fedoraLife Concept!]
Sorry folks I made a mess of this thread by not taking it to the art list. Here it is for reference. ~m Original Message Subject: Re: Announcing the fedoraLife Concept! Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:37:01 -0400 From: Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base [EMAIL PROTECTED] RazGriz wrote: Hi, i agree with you, i just said their words, we don't need add this things to the core, we need change the way that we use to deal with the common user =], they just don't know nothing about the real freedom of choice and most of then just don't wanna learn anything about it, but we still can take then showing our stuff whitout proprietary packages, cause the most important thing for this people is not software, but yes what it can do, if it can bring new and good computational experiences etc =] . I think that we already make it but only with the ambassadors, its time to the developers, artwork*(i am parte of this team inside my country) and marketing directly move their actions to this goal, fedora is not just a system of another free software to me, fedora is a way of life and i am very proud of it. Sweet, we are on the same page then. Awesome :) One way I think is a good way to help change these perceptions is to make really cool stuff with Fedora and free tools, and then show it off. For example, I end up showing a lot of the graphics I've worked on to a lot of people, so I always make a point to let them know the graphics were made with Inkscape, Gimp, and/or Scribus. If we can make high-quality things using Fedora then people will see what Fedora can really do. And they will have solid proof, not just a perception or an idea based on what someone else told them. Fedora art-studio : I made an wall paper to start my engines, can i show it 4 you? If yes, where i can do this? Sure, fedora-art-list@redhat.com is a good place. I don't know if we are going to be theming the art studio any differently than main Fedora at this point though. The biggest concern right now is to get an ISO built. If you are not so interested in building, you could help us pick out software to include in the Art Studio: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/FedoraArtStudio/PackageManifest Or you could help us find free fonts to include. The open font library is a good place to look. There's other places too like smashingmagazine.com usually has articles about new free fonts. Do note that to be included in Fedora the fonts must be free, so the fonts you propose to include must be under a license that is acceptable for inclusion in Fedora: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/LicensingGuidelines Sometimes, though, if you can get in touch with the font creator, they may be willing to relicense the font for us. The best license I think to ask them to license the font under is under the Open Font License. Add any acceptable fonts you find to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Font_wishlist You could also pick out open clip art we could include in the Spin: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/FedoraArtStudio/Clipart Or templates, plugins, brushes, textures, palettes (colorlovers.com is a good site to go to find cool color palettes. You could easily build a set of gimp palette files from there) ~m -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Fwd: Re: Announcing the fedoraLife Concept!]
Máirín Duffy wrote: RazGriz wrote: Fedora art-studio : I made an wall paper to start my engines, can i show it 4 you? If yes, where i can do this? As we don't have for the moment a gallery, the best way is to post your wallpaper anywhere on the web (your fedorapeople account is OK, but also Flickr, deviantArt, etc. are valid choices) Sure, fedora-art-list@redhat.com is a good place. I don't know if we are going to be theming the art studio any differently than main Fedora at this point though. The biggest concern right now is to get an ISO built. I also think building a first version of the ISO should be the first priority. We can add packages later, we can talk about themes later. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: 2 Wallpapers
ambrish dhaka wrote: Hello! Fedora friends, I join your community by producing two wall papers, designed on GIMP. Hope they find some acknowledgement. Sorry everybody, this is my fault. I saw on the moderation queue this message with 2 attached images (without being able to see the content of the images) from an unsubscribed user and took it as a legit introduction. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Fwd: Re: Announcing the fedoraLife Concept!]
Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: RazGriz wrote: Fedora art-studio : I made an wall paper to start my engines, can i show it 4 you? If yes, where i can do this? As we don't have for the moment a gallery, the best way is to post your wallpaper anywhere on the web (your fedorapeople account is OK, but also Flickr, deviantArt, etc. are valid choices) Sure, fedora-art-list@redhat.com is a good place. I don't know if we are going to be theming the art studio any differently than main Fedora at this point though. The biggest concern right now is to get an ISO built. I also think building a first version of the ISO should be the first priority. We can add packages later, we can talk about themes later. Something I talked to Mo about last night, and will be attempting in the near future. I am having some growing interest in really stepping up for this spin and getting it going. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
IAX Phone Icon Request
Hello everyone, I'd like to claim the IAX Phone applications icon request from the DesignService. I already finished a 48x48 Tango-standards (some exceptions as to the buttons and darker gradients) icon of the phone (smaller versions are to follow after the acknowledgment of this design). Please do knock me out with suggestions on what to do with it and what to change. Thanks! ~act1v8 -- Stojan Dimitrovski Blog: http://stojance.lugola.net/; http://ap.blog.com.mk/ IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] IRC: act1v8 @ Freenode; sometimes act1v8 @ GimpNet DeviantART: http://act1v8.deviantart.com/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/Act1v8 attachment: iax-phone.png signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: IAX Phone Icon Request
Hi Stojan, Stojan Dimitrovski wrote: Hello everyone, I'd like to claim the IAX Phone applications icon request from the DesignService. I already finished a 48x48 Tango-standards (some exceptions as to the buttons and darker gradients) icon of the phone (smaller versions are to follow after the acknowledgment of this design). Right now the default icon theme for Fedora is the gnome-icon-theme, but that is very compatible with the Tango standards so this icon should fit right in. Great work! Please do knock me out with suggestions on what to do with it and what to change. I have a couple of suggestions: - the buttons look a little flat. Can you try making them more 3D? A cheap trick to do this is to just add a second outline around the shape. I'd make the buttons maybe black as they are now, then a grey around the black, then a white around the grey. Experiment and see what you can do. If you need help let me know. - It looks like your buttons are a little fuzzy... make sure the outlines aren't inbetween squares of the pixel grid to correct this. - It looks a little weird without the cord connecting the handset to the phone base. In the 48x48 version you should be able to squeeze it in although it would seem reasonable to cut it out in 24x24 and smaller. What do you think? Overall, this is awesome work and I'm very impressed. You're off to a great start! ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: IAX Phone Icon Request
On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 02:01 +0200, Stojan Dimitrovski wrote: Hello everyone, I'd like to claim the IAX Phone applications icon request from the DesignService. I already finished a 48x48 Tango-standards (some exceptions as to the buttons and darker gradients) icon of the phone (smaller versions are to follow after the acknowledgment of this design). Please do knock me out with suggestions on what to do with it and what to change. Looks great to me, thanks! ~spot ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Hello, please let me introduce myself
RazGriz wrote: Hello everyone, please let me introduce myself. Hi! I'm Guilherme Gonçalves from Rio de Janeiro *(Brazil) but the community prefer call me Razgriz*(i really don't know why but perhaps...my ex-wife can explain this thing one day if...). Welcome to the project, Razgriz! Well, i am part of the Artwork team from the project Revista Fedora Brazil http://www.projetofedora.org/Revista since the second edition and it is my primary contribution as a fedora project member, hope here i can help in several projects specially in the new fedora spin Fedora art-studio(love this name). You do an awesome work with the magazine, it is a great piece of work. Well, here i am to help everyone and contribute with everything that i can, i will do my best to the project as you all make every time. Currently the two hottest areas in need for contribution are the design requests queue (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService) and the Echo theme development (https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: IAX Phone Icon Request
Stojan Dimitrovski wrote: Hello everyone, I'd like to claim the IAX Phone applications icon request from the DesignService. I already finished a 48x48 Tango-standards (some exceptions as to the buttons and darker gradients) icon of the phone (smaller versions are to follow after the acknowledgment of this design). Please do knock me out with suggestions on what to do with it and what to change. Can you update the wiki page about the status? (at least change the status to taken and add your name, if you feel the graphic is not 100% ready). If you do not have wiki editing rights, create an account in the Fedora Account System (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/new) and then apply for membership in the art group. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[Bug 440992] [ro] Create (U+0218..021B, 2011) and fix (U+0162/0163) in Liberation Fonts.
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [ro] Create (U+0218..021B,2011) and fix (U+0162/0163) in Liberation Fonts. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440992 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-06-12 02:53 EST --- Hi, I have modified all of the fonts same as what I have done on Sans-Regular for testing: https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts/browser/sandbox/ttf_1_04c_bz440992_test Please feel free to have a look. If everything is okay, I will close this bug and release official ver 1.04. Thank you very much. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 440992] [ro] Correct Romanian glyphs in Liberation Fonts.
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [ro] Correct Romanian glyphs in Liberation Fonts. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440992 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-06-12 03:14 EST --- Packaged editions: https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/i/liberation-fonts/ -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 450810] Incorrect width of slash '/' in default Korean font.
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Incorrect width of slash '/' in default Korean font. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450810 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-06-13 01:09 EST --- '/' looks like a full-width glyph. Are they input barely or with SCIM? I installed Korean Support and booted into Korean Gnome desktop. The '/' in my gnome-terminal (default monospace font) doesn't show like the screenshot in comment #1. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 450810] Incorrect width of slash '/' in default Korean font.
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Incorrect width of slash '/' in default Korean font. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450810 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
Meeting Log - 2008-06-12
16:00 -!- ricky changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Who's here? 16:00 G moo! 16:00 * harrisony 16:01 ivazquez Pong. 16:01 ricky abadger1999, dgilmore, f13, lmacken, paulobanon , skvidal anybody I forgot, ping :-) 16:01 G ivazquez: congratulations! 16:01 jcollie hello! 16:01 ivazquez Thanks. 16:01 dgilmore hey ricky 16:01 G ivazquez: another cvsextras sponsor in our midst! 16:01 * mmcgrath is here 16:02 ricky ivazquez: Oh, congrats from me too 16:02 ivazquez Thanks. 16:02 -!- ricky changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Tickets 16:02 * iWolf lurks 16:02 ricky .ticket 395 16:02 zodbot ricky: #395 (Audio Streaming of Fedora Board Conference Calls) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/395 16:02 * lmacken is kind of sort of not really here 16:02 marek hello :) 16:02 ricky .tiny https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=newstatus=assignedstatus=reopenedgroup=milestonekeywords=~Meetingorder=priority 16:02 zodbot ricky: http://tinyurl.com/47e37y 16:02 jcollie some progress finally... 16:03 ricky :-) 16:03 G yippee! 16:03 jcollie i had mmcgrath load rhel5 back onto asterisk1 16:03 jcollie i'm pupptizing stuff now 16:03 jcollie we're going to start simple, with just point-to-point calls and maybe a few simple audio conferences 16:04 jcollie fancy stuff will come later 16:04 * jwalters lurks as well 16:04 ricky Cool, can't wait to see that move once puppet is working :-) 16:05 jcollie mmcgrath and ricky are going to work on fas integration 16:05 ricky And ivazquez has made a lot of progress on the plugins architecture, which will be very helpful as well 16:05 jcollie supposedly we have some US and UK DID numbers for to dial in from cell phones and land lines 16:05 ivazquez The changes are in the ivazquez branch of fas. 16:05 ricky Is this something to work on more at FUDCon, perhaps? :-) 16:06 mmcgrath jcollie: thats correct, 4 in the US and one in the uk. 16:06 jcollie well, i could maybe work DURING fudcon, but not AT fudcon :( 16:06 ricky Ah :-/ 16:07 G mmcgrath: got a NZ DDI yet? :P 16:07 ricky Can't wait to see what this brings to meetings and the like 16:07 mmcgrath G: not yet 16:07 ricky All right 16:07 ricky .ticket 398 16:07 zodbot ricky: #398 (elfutils `monotone' (mtn) error) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/398 16:07 -!- tgalyean [EMAIL PROTECTED] has joined #fedora-meeting 16:08 * ricky doesn't see rmcgrath around 16:08 ricky tgalyean: Hey, good that you could make it :-0 16:08 ricky **:-) 16:08 ricky .ticket 446 16:08 tgalyean :) im still on the call but im nodding out 16:08 zodbot ricky: #446 (Possibility to add external links on spins page) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/446 16:09 ricky dgilmore: Are you the point person for this ticket? 16:09 tgalyean ricky: we are only about half way through the conf call :( 16:10 ricky OK, guess we can move on for now 16:10 ricky .ticket 547 16:10 zodbot ricky: #547 (Koji DB Server as postgres 8.3) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/547 16:10 dgilmore ricky: yes 16:10 ricky Oops, never mind :-) 16:10 ricky dgilmore: Any updates on that? Is it just the technical issue of getting them in at this point? 16:11 -!- bashohII [EMAIL PROTECTED] has quit 夢よりも現の鷹ぞ頼もしき 16:11 dgilmore ricky: im lame but http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spins 16:11 dgilmore we need some good text as a warning 16:11 dgilmore and a table that people can fill in for there spin info 16:12 ricky Ah, OK so it'll just be a link from spins.fp.o, I guess 16:12 dgilmore ricky: yeah 16:12 G The content on these pages is provided by external parties and Fedora Project takes no responsibility :P 16:12 dgilmore we need a decent disclaimer 16:12 ricky (Things might start moving around spins.fp.o more - some people in websites have shown interest in working on it) 16:13 ricky dgilmore: Is this something we could ask on f-a-b? 16:13 G The content of these spins is not monitored by the Fedora Project also sounds good 16:13 -!- mdomsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] has joined #fedora-meeting 16:13 dgilmore ricky: probably the best place 16:13 -!- mdomsch is now known as mdomsch_ord 16:14 * abadger1999 shows up late 16:14 ricky Ah, OK - so it looks like we're very close, then :-) 16:14 dgilmore ricky: anyway i suck it really should have been done a month ago 16:14 ricky No worries, there's always so much work to be done :-) 16:15 ricky .ticket 547 16:15 -!- dwmw2 is now known as dwmw2_gone 16:15 zodbot ricky: #547 (Koji DB Server as postgres 8.3) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/547 16:15 ricky This should be a popular one :-) 16:15 ricky The last I've heard is
Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?
On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 14:04 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
Even though EVO's GUI sucks for configurability (fonts for each pane,
default
message title-bar for each directory(folder) {I want Subject: Sender:
Date and
not Sender:Subject:Date for example}, default thread message collapse
for each
directory (folder) is absent or has to be manually set, every time),
but EVO is very
fast with threaded message processing. It does not tie up my system.
Dont' know if you have tried this, but if you point your mouse at the
from/subject/date fields, right click, select Customize Current View,
then select the Fields Shown button. On the right, select which field
you want first and move it up or down with the appropriate buttons.
That should give you what you want.
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Re: RPM creation question
Clint Dilks wrote, at 06/12/2008 03:45 PM +9:00:
Hi,
Is there any nice way in a .spec file to tell rpmbuild not to call
brp-java-repack-jars? Some Web Searching indicates that most people
just hack the script. Is there a better way ?
$ rpm --showrc shows %__os_install_post calls
/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/brp-java-repack-jars
if %__jar_repack macro is not defined. So just adding
%define __jar_repack %{nil}
at the top of the needed spec file or adding
%__jar_repack %{nil}
on ~/.rpmmacros should do what you want.
Regards,
Mamoru
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Re: f8 - can not log out of kde
On Thursday 12 June 2008 04:58:09 g wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace kills the X server, so it works for logging out if all else fails. i am aware of above, but when used, any configs are lost. i need a cure, not a work around. Try System Settings Advanced Session Manager Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: fedoraproject.org IP adress?
On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 14:23 -0400, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Adding this to /etc/hosts I can use yum to download and install software from Fedora mirrors. Don't forget to remove them once the current DNS issues are over. Else, the next time DNS changes occur, you'll be looking in the wrong place. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.4-30.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: hard drive install FC6 failed
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 09:08 +0800, RyanYee/叶晔 wrote: My PC is DELL optiplex GX280,with SATA Hard disk. I had download FC6 DVD iso file to my harddisk(fat32 partision) then try to use GRUB(dos) to load and install. when I choosed Install Method(hard drive),it said no driver found, but in driver list,I can't find mine(intel 82801FB ultra ATA Storage Controller 2651).so I think maybe my initrd.img hasn't that module.can anyone help me with that? What methods are available to you to boot your computer up to start an install? For me, I burnt the net install, booted from that, and used it to install using the DVD ISO file on a hard drive. I'd expect that if I could boot the netinst disc, that I could have extracted files from it and directly booted them using GRUB, too. But I've not tried that approach. I have experience on Installing RH 9.0 on same PC with same method. so I am sure my grub configure,and sata set to normal mode in bios is right.In RH9.0 I can easy to choose partision which hold my iso file,but in FC6 no way to do it. Since you've had successful and unsuccessful installs, you might want to post the configuration options that you've used. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.4-30.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: hard drive install FC6 failed
1.I put DVD iso file in my window partision like E:/fc6/fc6xxx.iso 2.I get vmlinuz initrd.img from isolinux directory (inside of fc6xxx.iso),put them in E:/fc6 3.in grub command line grub kernel (hd0,5)/fc6/vmlinuz grub initrd (hd0,5)/fc6/initrd.img grub boot 4.enter install step ,choose method Hard drive,then No driver found. 2008/6/12 Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What methods are available to you to boot your computer up to start an install? For me, I burnt the net install, booted from that, and used it to install using the DVD ISO file on a hard drive. I'd expect that if I could boot the netinst disc, that I could have extracted files from it and directly booted them using GRUB, too. But I've not tried that approach. these two result only different after method choose,same in grub configure and bios parameter set so I think why FC6 can't find my iso file,cause bios has made SATA work as IDE hard disk. while RH9.0 can do it grub can do it . Since you've had successful and unsuccessful installs, you might want to post the configuration options that you've used. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.4-30.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- RyanYee How many roads must a man walk down before you can call him a Man?How many years can some people exist before They're allowed to be free?the answer is Blowing in the wind... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Weird scrambled fonts
Am Mittwoch, den 11.06.2008, 23:01 -0600 schrieb Eric Brunson: Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote: Morning. Some of my fonts looks weirdly scrambled: http://www.padep.org.bo/fonts/ Why could that be? freetype-freworld? I noticed it both with and without freetype-freeworld. We're discussing it on FedoraForum and trying to find a common thread. I see it on three machines, all are using kmod-nvidia from livna as well as another user on the forum, are you? I made some tests, and concluded this behavior appears ONLY when using monochrome fonts, with nvidia and nv drivers, please see: http://www.padep.org.bo/fonts/config.png I tried my tests with nvidia driver and with nv. I see the scrambling on the only PC with NVIDIA I have. Currently Im not using kmod-nvidia, but nv (I think its the nouveau driver), and can see this behavior. Please see http://www.padep.org.bo/fonts/abiword2.png which I took today, with this xorg.conf: # cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep -v ^$ Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section Files ModulePath /usr/lib/xorg/modules EndSection Section ServerFlags Option AIGLX on EndSection Section InputDevice # keyboard added by rhpxl Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout us Option XkbVariant intl EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver nv EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section Extensions Option Composite Enable EndSection # lsmod|grep nv # rpm -qa|grep nv gnome-python2-canvas-2.22.0-2.fc9.i386 NetworkManager-openvpn-0.7.0-10.svn3632.fc9.i386 libgnomecanvas-2.20.1.1-2.fc9.i386 libgnomecanvasmm26-2.22.0-1.fc9.i386 openvpn-2.1-0.25.rc7.fc9.i386 libgnomecanvas-devel-2.20.1.1-2.fc9.i386 xorg-x11-drv-nv-2.1.8-1.fc9.i386 Eric, thanks a lot. Please refer to my reply in the forum if you need. Best regards! -- Rodolfo Alcazar - [EMAIL PROTECTED] otbits.blogspot.com / counter.li.org: #367962 -- Reine Mathematik ist Religion. - Novalis, Fragmente -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: nv/nvidia+antialiasing fonts (was: Weird scrambled fonts)
Am Donnerstag, den 12.06.2008, 07:28 -0400 schrieb Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo: Am Mittwoch, den 11.06.2008, 23:01 -0600 schrieb Eric Brunson: Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote: Morning. Some of my fonts looks weirdly scrambled: http://www.padep.org.bo/fonts/ Why could that be? freetype-freworld? I noticed it both with and without freetype-freeworld. We're discussing it on FedoraForum and trying to find a common thread. I see it on three machines, all are using kmod-nvidia from livna as well as another user on the forum, are you? Just tracking the FedoraForum thread: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=189695highlight=fonts -- Rodolfo Alcazar - [EMAIL PROTECTED] otbits.blogspot.com / counter.li.org: #367962 -- Die höchste Form des Glücks ist ein Leben mit einem gewissen Grad an Verrücktheit. - Erasmus von Rotterdam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
F8: latest pidgin update broken?
Hi all, with the latest F8 pidgin update, pidgin always crashes after a few seconds of running. It claims that it tries to dump a core but I couldn't find that so far. Does anyone else have this problem? Thanks, Niels -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: ssh connection problems
Danny Yee írta: Since upgrading to Fedora 9, my ssh connections from home are regularly freezing. Half year ago (before F9) I had exactly the same issue. The only thing I caught was some strange TCP header mismatch, but with F9 these problems had gone. Have you tcpdumped the connections? -- Laszlo BERES RHCE, RHCX senior IT engineer, trainer -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fwd: [help] how to deal with Incorrect metadata area header checksum in LVM
Zhen Zhou wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:45 PM, David Timms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zhen Zhou wrote: So what is the right path to recover these lvm? Any tips will be welcome! Thanks in advanced, BTW: the attached is lvm metadata file. More detail information needed, pls tell me. You might find experts in LVM hanging out on: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [subscription required]. Good luck. FTA, thanks for your tips. and I really wonder whether these errors Incorrect metadata area header checksum, Volume group VolGroup00 metadata is inconsistent is impossible to recover. Or what I need to deal, is to follow: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general/196481 to recover all lvm's data? Any tips will be welcome. TIA Zhou Zhen I asked in a related thread on the developer's list and I'll ask here. Someone please let me know if my question doesn't make any sense. Is it harder to recover files from an LVM than with the older partioning scheme? -- An unwillingness to embarrass oneself makes learning more difficult -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?
On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 23:30 -0700, Mike Chambers wrote:
On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 14:04 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
Even though EVO's GUI sucks for configurability (fonts for each
pane,
default
message title-bar for each directory(folder) {I want Subject:
Sender:
Date and
not Sender:Subject:Date for example}, default thread message
collapse
for each
directory (folder) is absent or has to be manually set, every
time),
but EVO is very
fast with threaded message processing. It does not tie up my system.
Dont' know if you have tried this, but if you point your mouse at the
from/subject/date fields, right click, select Customize Current View,
then select the Fields Shown button. On the right, select which
field
you want first and move it up or down with the appropriate buttons.
That should give you what you want.
Yes, of course. But how about doing this over and over again with
several
folders in your entire tree? If you have a small tree, no big deal, but
if you
have many trees, ugh. It takes awhile, granted, but gets worst if you
have
to do this for each user, for each computer, as an IT personnel?
Anyway,
in any case, it is just one issue in many other issues in making Evo
more robust
in terms of user configurability, overall. I liked the way Thunderbird
and Kmail
implemented their interfaces, unfortunately their engines were not
robust
enough to be useful.
Kind regards,
Dan
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Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?
I've been using kmail for several years. Tried evo and hated it - of course that was years ago, so it may be quite different now. Tried Thunderbird, but there were too many things in kmail that I couldn't do in t'bird, so here I stay :-) I also used to use kmail a lot but eventually gave up on it due to its imap support not being that good (IMHO). Does it still force the user to choose when setting up an imap account between 'imap' and 'disconnected imap' ? Either you choose 'imap' where messages are only downloaded as they are needed, but you have no offline support, or 'disconnected imap', where they are available offlne, but kmail insists you download them *all*, not just as and when you read them. This always seemed an insane choice to me I now use thunderbird which has the best of both, offline support and download on demand... I hope kmail's imap support gets some attention in KDE4, if it does then I might go back ... Chris -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
match device files with LUN ID
Does anyone know how I can correlate which device files (sda, sdb, sdc, etc) match up with which LUNs in /proc/scsi/scsi? I'm sure there is a command I can use to give output like: devicefile1, scsi, channel, id, lun devicefile2, scsi, channel, id, lun devicefile3, scsi, channel, id, lun But I can't remember what it is. Anyone? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: hard drive install FC6 failed
RyanYee/叶晔 wrote: 1.I put DVD iso file in my window partision like E:/fc6/fc6xxx.iso 2.I get vmlinuz initrd.img from isolinux directory (inside of fc6xxx.iso),put them in E:/fc6 Aa Far As I Know none of the nixes refer to drives by letters like e: that is a windows convention. 3.in grub command line grub kernel (hd0,5)/fc6/vmlinuz grub initrd (hd0,5)/fc6/initrd.img grub boot 4.enter install step ,choose method Hard drive,then No driver found. Probably because of the way you refer to the file and where it is stored. Maybe you need a separate FAT or FAT32 partition to store the ISO or even better something formatted with ext3 or other nix filesystem, others can probably explain it better but I would say that is your problem. -- An unwillingness to embarrass oneself makes learning more difficult -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Checking CPU temperature
On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 18:05 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 17:01 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 16:06 +0100, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, In the output below, where should I look for the CPU temperature? The value CPU Temp: -2.0°C (low = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) sensor = transistor seems unlikely. Or is -2.0°C realistic? Is there some other program to check the CPU temperature? Thanks in advance, Paul cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature will do it. -2.0C would be a really cold CPU. Colder than ice. You need to read the thread from the beginning. The OP has already explained that this doesn't work. poc Actually he said: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature would not work since it is supposed to be: THM -- === Totally illogical, there was no chance. -- Spock, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2822.3 === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: hard drive install FC6 failed
max wrote: RyanYee/叶晔 wrote: 1.I put DVD iso file in my window partision like E:/fc6/fc6xxx.iso 2.I get vmlinuz initrd.img from isolinux directory (inside of fc6xxx.iso),put them in E:/fc6 Aa Far As I Know none of the nixes refer to drives by letters like e: that is a windows convention. 3.in grub command line grub kernel (hd0,5)/fc6/vmlinuz grub initrd (hd0,5)/fc6/initrd.img grub boot 4.enter install step ,choose method Hard drive,then No driver found. Probably because of the way you refer to the file and where it is stored. Maybe you need a separate FAT or FAT32 partition to store the ISO or even better something formatted with ext3 or other nix filesystem, others can probably explain it better but I would say that is your problem. Never mind what I said. I should have gone back and reread the thread before I responded, my memory is shoddier than I remember ;^) -- An unwillingness to embarrass oneself makes learning more difficult -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?
On Thursday 12 June 2008 15:22:54 Chris Jones wrote: I've been using kmail for several years. Tried evo and hated it - of course that was years ago, so it may be quite different now. Tried Thunderbird, but there were too many things in kmail that I couldn't do in t'bird, so here I stay :-) I also used to use kmail a lot but eventually gave up on it due to its imap support not being that good (IMHO). Does it still force the user to choose when setting up an imap account between 'imap' and 'disconnected imap' ? Either you choose 'imap' where messages are only downloaded as they are needed, but you have no offline support, or 'disconnected imap', where they are available offlne, but kmail insists you download them *all*, not just as and when you read them. This always seemed an insane choice to me I now use thunderbird which has the best of both, offline support and download on demand... I hope kmail's imap support gets some attention in KDE4, if it does then I might go back ... In 3.5.x online IMAP works well, and I really wouldn't want the amount of list traffic I read to be off-line IMAP, so that doesn't worry me. It's true that there are some issues with off-line IMAP, particularly if you include addressbook and calendar etc.. Some people get it working perfectly, but many don't. I, too, look forward to the new pim, but it may be next year before it arrives. (I wonder if Daniel was using dimap when he complained of multiple copies of messages? That's the reason I gave up, when I tested it.) Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problem with update of f7 for Network Manager.
On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 22:01 -0700, belyaev1967 wrote: Thank you for your message. You were the first who reported this problem. This is 100% bug. I have put back 0.6.6-1 version from ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/updates/7/x86_64/ and everything worked fine to me. Actually this is terrible bug. I though thank my hardware crashed till I saw your posting! Alexander I did the same thing you did and things started working. What really worried me was f7 is very close to being unsupported. Dan Williams who is the head of the NM project is looking at my logs to see if he can fix the problem. I will keep people posted when the results are revealed. Aaron Konstam wrote: This morning I was send a message about updating NetworkManager. The following rpms were updated on my f7 system: NetworkManager-glib -0.6.6-2.fc7.i386 NetworkManager-devel -0.6.6-2.fc7.i386 NetworkManager -0.6.6-2.fc7.i386 NetworkManager-gnome -0.6.6-2.fc7.i386 after the update NM no longer works properly. The connection is made but instead of seeing the vertical blue bars the arrow keeps circling. Do others with f7 see the same thing. How can I downgrade to the earlier version? What can be done otherwise? Why are devel rpms being downloaded? My development repo is disabled. -- Aaron Konstam [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Problem-with-update-of-f7-for-Network-Manager.-tp17764566p17791707.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- === I have not the slightest confidence in 'spiritual manifestations.' -- Robert G. Ingersoll === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
[Fedora8] SElinux bug
Hello
I had this morning a freeze, where I could not shutdown X server or
the laptop properly, looking at /var/log/messages:
I found what I suspect a selinux bug :
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: SELinux: out of range capability -555425744
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [ cut here ]
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: kernel BUG at security/selinux/hooks.c:1332!
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: invalid opcode: [#1] SMP
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Modules linked in: iptable_nat xt_limit
xt_tcpudp iptable_mangle ipt_LOG ipt_MASQUERADE nf_nat xt_DSCP
ipt_REJE
CT nf_conntrack_irc nf_conntrack_ftp nf_conntrack_ipv4 xt_state
nf_conntrack iptable_filter ip_tables x_tables pppoatm pppoe pppox
ppp_synctty
ppp_async ppp_generic slhc appletalk ipx p8023 ipv6 cpufreq_ondemand
acpi_cpufreq vfat fat dm_mirror dm_multipath dm_mod parport_pc
smsc_ircc
2 parport irda crc_ccitt pcspkr floppy serio_raw snd_intel8x0
snd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss video snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq output
snd_seq_device
snd_intel8x0m fglrx(P)(U) snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm_oss ac97_bus tg3
snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm wmi snd_timer battery snd ac soundcore
snd_page_alloc
button iTCO_wdt i2c_i801 i2c_core iTCO_vendor_support joydev speedtch
usbatm sr_mod cdrom atm sg pata_acpi ata_generic ata_piix libata
sd_mod
scsi_mod ext3 jbd mbcache uhci_hcd ohci_hcd ehci_hcd [last unloaded: microcode]
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Pid: 2036, comm: X Tainted: P
(2.6.25.4-10.fc8 #1)
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: EIP: 0060:[c04cd270] EFLAGS: 00213246 CPU: 0
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: EIP is at task_has_capability+0x46/0x79
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: EAX: 0030 EBX: dee4e030 ECX:
c07195e4 EDX:
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: ESI: df191740 EDI: df18deb0 EBP:
df18debc ESP: df18de6c
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS: 0033 SS: 0068
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Process X (pid: 2036, ti=df18d000
task=df16 task.ti=df18d000)
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Stack: c06d7792 dee4e030 df16
0003 df16 dee4e030
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: dee4e030 df16
df148000 df18decc c04cd2c2 df16 e0d000c0
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Call Trace:
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c04cd2c2] ? selinux_capable+0x1f/0x23
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c04c9685] ? security_capable+0xc/0xe
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c042c9ff] ? __capable+0xb/0x1f
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [e0bf5050] ?
firegl_cmmqs_CWDDE32+0x0/0x110 [fglrx]
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c042ca23] ? capable+0x10/0x12
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [e0bda477] ? firegl_ioctl+0xe7/0x220 [fglrx]
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c0439d7f] ? ktime_get_ts+0x45/0x49
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c0439d96] ? ktime_get+0x13/0x2f
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [e0bcfc66] ? ip_firegl_ioctl+0xe/0x10 [fglrx]
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c048acfa] ? vfs_ioctl+0x4e/0x67
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c048af75] ? do_vfs_ioctl+0x262/0x279
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c04d016e] ? selinux_file_ioctl+0xa8/0xab
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c048afcc] ? sys_ioctl+0x40/0x5c
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c0405b7a] ? syscall_call+0x7/0xb
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: ===
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Code: 05 00 00 89 d0 f3 ab 8b 4d b8 89
d8 b2 04 c1 f8 05 c6 45 bc 03 89 5d c4 89 4d c0 74 19 48 74 11 53 68
92 77 6d c0 e8 fd 9e f5 ff 0f 0b 58 5a eb fe ba 45 00 00 00 8b 46 08
83 e3 1f 0f b7 f2 8d
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: EIP: [c04cd270]
task_has_capability+0x46/0x79 SS:ESP 0068:df18de6c
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: ---[ end trace fd35f97fc34637fa ]---
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [fglrx:firegl_release] *ERROR* device busy: 1 0
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [fglrx] release failed with code -EBUSY
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Re: Lost DNS lookup
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:48:12 +1000 David Timms [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote
McGuffey, David C. wrote:
A few days ago, a workstation in a lab stopped doing DNS lookups to
support connectivity to SMTP, POP, and web services. As I think
back,
the behavior started in close proximity in time to a stunnel update.
# uname -a
# ifconfig
# time route
# ping localhost
# ping 127.0.0.1
# ping self ip from ifconfig
# ping self hostname by name
# ping another machine on this network.
# ping next hop router {from route}
# ping 66.249.89.99 {google}
# cat /etc/resolv.conf
# ping nameserver ip from resolv.conf
# dig www.google.com.au
# ping www.google.com.au
Guessing you did all that, but maybe dropping the results would help
us
work out what's up ?
I did some of that, but not all. Will try to get back to the machine
today and do that.
BTW, I dropped an F8 loaded laptop onto the network, powered it up,
received the dhcp configuration and was able to get out through the
gateway. So the problem is definitely associated with the F7 load on
the workstation.
Dave McGuffey
Principal Information System Security Engineer // NSA-IEM, NSA-IAM
SAIC, IISBU, Columbia, MD
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Re: match device files with LUN ID
Around 03:30pm on Thursday, June 12, 2008 (UK time), Tom Spec scrawled: Does anyone know how I can correlate which device files (sda, sdb, sdc, etc) match up with which LUNs in /proc/scsi/scsi? I'm sure there is a command I can use to give output like: devicefile1, scsi, channel, id, lun devicefile2, scsi, channel, id, lun devicefile3, scsi, channel, id, lun But I can't remember what it is. Anyone? Its not as slick as what you want, but you could do: cdrecord -devices followed by cdrecord -scanbus Steve -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting a bad thing? 16:03:57 up 20 days, 20:35, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.08, 0.04 pgpeERHBA7pkt.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: ssh connection problems
Around 04:05am on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 (UK time), Danny Yee scrawled: Since upgrading to Fedora 9, my ssh connections from home are regularly freezing. I'm pretty sure this is not a Fedora/ssh bug but rather some kind of problem with my ADSL router and/or connection. (It doesn't affect my box at work.) But does anyone have any idea what changes from openssh 4.7 to 5.0 could be responsible? I suspect it's going to be easier to fix this by tweaking ssh behaviour than by trying to fix the ADSL router/modem... Is it the machine you are sshing into that has been upgraded? If so, check /etc/ssh/sshd_config and if necessary add: ClientAliveInterval 30 ClientAliveCountMax 5 Steve -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting a bad thing? 16:08:06 up 20 days, 20:39, 2 users, load average: 0.25, 0.18, 0.09 pgpPRFMvwGveI.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
RE: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 12 June 2008 15:22:54 Chris Jones wrote: I've been using kmail for several years. Tried evo and hated it - of course that was years ago, so it may be quite different now. Tried Thunderbird, but there were too many things in kmail that I couldn't do in t'bird, so here I stay :-) I also used to use kmail a lot but eventually gave up on it due to its imap support not being that good (IMHO). Does it still force the user to choose when setting up an imap account between 'imap' and 'disconnected imap' ? Either you choose 'imap' where messages are only downloaded as they are needed, but you have no offline support, or 'disconnected imap', where they are available offlne, but kmail insists you download them *all*, not just as and when you read them. This always seemed an insane choice to me I now use thunderbird which has the best of both, offline support and download on demand... I hope kmail's imap support gets some attention in KDE4, if it does then I might go back ... In 3.5.x online IMAP works well, and I really wouldn't want the amount of list traffic I read to be off-line IMAP, so that doesn't worry me. It's true that there are some issues with off-line IMAP, particularly if you include addressbook and calendar etc.. Some people get it working perfectly, but many don't. I, too, look forward to the new pim, but it may be next year before it arrives. (I wonder if Daniel was using dimap when he complained of multiple copies of messages? That's the reason I gave up, when I tested it.) As I am writing from M$-Outlook, I found that Evo (and possibly KMail), filled up my inbox folders expotentally with multiple copies of multiple emails. I had to shut down all email clients on F8 to see if the problem stops. So far, it has been quiet. I noticed this behavior before, when running Evo (connector) and Kmail(IMAP) but forgotten because I was using Outlook for a long time due to circumstances, but once I went back to working on F8 I needed to have email there as well and that is when the SHTF. Oh, my... that's right - that is why I dropped Evo for Kmail for Thunderbird, none which worked well for me, each having it's own particulars. I think I'll try seakmonkey next, and see what it offers. Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Sound sys does work
I have installed fc7. nVidia nforce sound card is installed. Playback is not working. Ramachandran -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I was dealing with Exchange server, I surely would be using Evolution and the Exchange connector. I have been using Exchange connector on and off for several years and it has become better. However it is still very quirky and not ready for prime time. -- In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act! -- George Orwell (Eric Arthur Blair) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
wine problem in fc8
I have had a wine setup working very nicely for several months. Then I didn't work with it for aa couple of weeks. Now when I click on the prigram desktop icons, I get nothing. I opened a terminal and changed directory to where the program resides and issued wine progname I get a reply as follows preloader: Warning: failed to reserve range -6000 preloader: Warning: failed to reserve range -6000 wine: could not load LC:\\Program Files\\2nd Story Software\\TaxACT 2007\\TaxAct07.exe: Invalid address when looking around at error logs and such I saw somewhere a statement to the effect that wine uses the first part of memory for dos addresses. I don't know what could have happened. I looked in yum.log and wine was updated in early april, but I think it was working OK after that. I tried removing wine and reinstalling, but get the same problem. One of the reasons I didn't use wine for a while was that I was installing and playing with clamav. Is it possible that clamav is protecting memory and won't let wine reserve it? I am not running clamd (as far as I can tell.) Any help would be appreciated. My next step will probably be to remove all the wine stuff and all the windows programs and stsrt over. With no idea what the problem is I think I will probably end up right where I am now Any help, comments, advice, etc? appreciated. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: ssh connection problems
I have the same problem, my client has been upgraded to F9 but the server is still in F8. Have I to modify as described ? Steve Searle a écrit : Around 04:05am on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 (UK time), Danny Yee scrawled: Since upgrading to Fedora 9, my ssh connections from home are regularly freezing. I'm pretty sure this is not a Fedora/ssh bug but rather some kind of problem with my ADSL router and/or connection. (It doesn't affect my box at work.) But does anyone have any idea what changes from openssh 4.7 to 5.0 could be responsible? I suspect it's going to be easier to fix this by tweaking ssh behaviour than by trying to fix the ADSL router/modem... Is it the machine you are sshing into that has been upgraded? If so, check /etc/ssh/sshd_config and if necessary add: ClientAliveInterval 30 ClientAliveCountMax 5 Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?
On Thursday 12 June 2008 16:24:20 Daniel B. Thurman wrote: (I wonder if Daniel was using dimap when he complained of multiple copies of messages? That's the reason I gave up, when I tested it.) As I am writing from M$-Outlook, I found that Evo (and possibly KMail), filled up my inbox folders expotentally with multiple copies of multiple emails. I had to shut down all email clients on F8 to see if the problem stops. So far, it has been quiet. I noticed this behavior before, when running Evo (connector) and Kmail(IMAP) but forgotten because I was using Outlook for a long time due to circumstances, but once I went back to working on F8 I needed to have email there as well and that is when the SHTF. Oh, my... that's right - that is why I dropped Evo for Kmail for Thunderbird, none which worked well for me, each having it's own particulars. I think I'll try seakmonkey next, and see what it offers. In all the years I've used kmail I've never seen this in plain IMAP. I did see it in dimap, though. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How can we speed up rpm downloads?
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:54 AM, drago01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Justin Conover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guess I answered my own question earlier, I ran gzip on openopfice.org-core and it went from 84MB to 83MB. rpms are already compressed. Fairly loaded question, don't say get a better ISP, I have a very fast connection at home, and this d/l view was taken at work with an extremely fat pipe. The problem is size of rpm's being downloaded. Debian seems to d/l much faster, not exact version but you can get some idea size wise. http://packages.debian.org/etch/openoffice.org-core wget http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-core_2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch5_amd64.deb There package is 34MB. This is an example of one of the larger apps out there I realize that, I just grabbed the last one to use as an example. At 34MB it still takes time, but .deb is 50MB cheaper that the .rpm. you are comparing two different packages (2.0.4 and 2.4) -- https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list Here 38MB, still close to 50MB cheaper. http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-core_2.4.1-2_amd64.deb http://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/openoffice.org-core/download -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: [Fedora8] SElinux bug
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 11:02 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
hicham wrote:
Hello
I had this morning a freeze, where I could not shutdown X server or
the laptop properly, looking at /var/log/messages:
I found what I suspect a selinux bug :
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: SELinux: out of range capability -555425744
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [ cut here ]
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: kernel BUG at security/selinux/hooks.c:1332!
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: invalid opcode: [#1] SMP
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Modules linked in: iptable_nat xt_limit
xt_tcpudp iptable_mangle ipt_LOG ipt_MASQUERADE nf_nat xt_DSCP
ipt_REJE
CT nf_conntrack_irc nf_conntrack_ftp nf_conntrack_ipv4 xt_state
nf_conntrack iptable_filter ip_tables x_tables pppoatm pppoe pppox
ppp_synctty
ppp_async ppp_generic slhc appletalk ipx p8023 ipv6 cpufreq_ondemand
acpi_cpufreq vfat fat dm_mirror dm_multipath dm_mod parport_pc
smsc_ircc
2 parport irda crc_ccitt pcspkr floppy serio_raw snd_intel8x0
snd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss video snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq output
snd_seq_device
snd_intel8x0m fglrx(P)(U) snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm_oss ac97_bus tg3
snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm wmi snd_timer battery snd ac soundcore
snd_page_alloc
button iTCO_wdt i2c_i801 i2c_core iTCO_vendor_support joydev speedtch
usbatm sr_mod cdrom atm sg pata_acpi ata_generic ata_piix libata
sd_mod
scsi_mod ext3 jbd mbcache uhci_hcd ohci_hcd ehci_hcd [last unloaded:
microcode]
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Pid: 2036, comm: X Tainted: P
(2.6.25.4-10.fc8 #1)
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: EIP: 0060:[c04cd270] EFLAGS: 00213246 CPU: 0
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: EIP is at task_has_capability+0x46/0x79
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: EAX: 0030 EBX: dee4e030 ECX:
c07195e4 EDX:
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: ESI: df191740 EDI: df18deb0 EBP:
df18debc ESP: df18de6c
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS: 0033 SS: 0068
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Process X (pid: 2036, ti=df18d000
task=df16 task.ti=df18d000)
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Stack: c06d7792 dee4e030 df16
0003 df16 dee4e030
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: dee4e030 df16
df148000 df18decc c04cd2c2 df16 e0d000c0
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Call Trace:
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c04cd2c2] ? selinux_capable+0x1f/0x23
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c04c9685] ? security_capable+0xc/0xe
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c042c9ff] ? __capable+0xb/0x1f
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [e0bf5050] ?
firegl_cmmqs_CWDDE32+0x0/0x110 [fglrx]
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c042ca23] ? capable+0x10/0x12
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [e0bda477] ? firegl_ioctl+0xe7/0x220
[fglrx]
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c0439d7f] ? ktime_get_ts+0x45/0x49
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c0439d96] ? ktime_get+0x13/0x2f
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [e0bcfc66] ? ip_firegl_ioctl+0xe/0x10
[fglrx]
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c048acfa] ? vfs_ioctl+0x4e/0x67
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c048af75] ? do_vfs_ioctl+0x262/0x279
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c04d016e] ? selinux_file_ioctl+0xa8/0xab
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c048afcc] ? sys_ioctl+0x40/0x5c
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [c0405b7a] ? syscall_call+0x7/0xb
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: ===
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Code: 05 00 00 89 d0 f3 ab 8b 4d b8 89
d8 b2 04 c1 f8 05 c6 45 bc 03 89 5d c4 89 4d c0 74 19 48 74 11 53 68
92 77 6d c0 e8 fd 9e f5 ff 0f 0b 58 5a eb fe ba 45 00 00 00 8b 46 08
83 e3 1f 0f b7 f2 8d
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: EIP: [c04cd270]
task_has_capability+0x46/0x79 SS:ESP 0068:df18de6c
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: ---[ end trace fd35f97fc34637fa ]---
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [fglrx:firegl_release] *ERROR* device busy:
1 0
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [fglrx] release failed with code -EBUSY
Please open a bugzilla
It is a bug in the proprietary fglrx driver, not in SELinux.
SELinux is just the messenger here.
--
Stephen Smalley
National Security Agency
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Re: How can we speed up rpm downloads?
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Justin Conover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any current work on yum-presto, deltarpm or some other method of getting the downloads for updates to be smaller and quicker? Can you compress rpm's to make the the downloads faster? If you have multiple machines, would suggest you proxy it. -- Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How can we speed up rpm downloads?
On Thursday 12 June 2008 17:42, Justin Conover wrote: Is there any current work on yum-presto, deltarpm or some other method of getting the downloads for updates to be smaller and quicker? Can you compress rpm's to make the the downloads faster? Currently with yum presto there is only one site that I have found that has the deltarpms. https://fedorahosted.org/presto Currently now on a fresh install of F9 update Transaction Summary === == Install 14 Package(s) Update 185 Package(s) Remove 0 Package(s) Total download size: 475 M Half a gig is a lot (181/199): nautilus-2.22.3-1.fc9.x86_64.rpm | 5.0 MB 00:42 (182/199): rhythmbox-0.11.5-12.fc9.x86_64.rpm| 5.3 MB 00:42 (183/199): gtk2-2.12.10-2.fc9.x86_64.rpm | 7.1 MB 00:52 (184/199): libpurple-2.4.2-1.fc9.x86_64.rpm | 7.4 MB 00:53 (185/199): libgweather-2.22.2-1.fc9.x86_64.rpm | 7.5 MB 00:47 (186/199): dasher-4.9.0-1.fc9.x86_64.rpm | 7.7 MB 00:57 (187/199): openoffice.org-calc-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.x86_64.rpm | 8.3 MB 01:03 (188/199): samba-client-3.2.0-1.rc1.15.fc9.x86_64.rpm| 9.6 MB 01:43 (189/199): gnome-applets-2.22.2-1.fc9.x86_64.rpm | 9.6 MB 01:29 (190/199): evolution-2.22.2-2.fc9.x86_64.rpm | 13 MB 01:32 (191/199): perl-5.10.0-22.fc9.x86_64.rpm | 14 MB 02:12 (192/199): gnome-user-docs-2.22.1-1.fc9.noarch.rpm | 16 MB 01:55 (193/199): samba-common-3.2.0-1.rc1.15.fc9.x86_64.rpm| 16 MB 01:53 (194/199): kernel-2.6.25.4-30.fc9.x86_64.rpm | 18 MB 02:14 (195/199): gnome-games-2.22.2.1-1.fc9.x86_64.rpm | 19 MB 02:30 (196/199): java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9.x86_6 | 27 MB 04:12 (197/199): frysk-0.4-0.fc9.x86_64.rpm| 28 MB 03:29 (198/199): evolution-help-2.22.2-2.fc9.x86_64.rpm| 46 MB 03:44 (199/199): openoffice.org-core-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.x86_64.rpm | 84 MB 08:07 Large rpm's are very time consuming to update and/or install. Guess I answered my own question earlier, I ran gzip on openopfice.org-core and it went from 84MB to 83MB. Fairly loaded question, don't say get a better ISP, I have a very fast connection at home, and this d/l view was taken at work with an extremely fat pipe. The problem is size of rpm's being downloaded. Debian seems to d/l much faster, not exact version but you can get some idea size wise. http://packages.debian.org/etch/openoffice.org-core wget http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/o/openoffice.o rg/openoffice.org-core_2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch5_amd64.deb There package is 34MB. This is an example of one of the larger apps out there I realize that, I just grabbed the last one to use as an example. At 34MB it still takes time, but .deb is 50MB cheaper that the .rpm. Is deltarpm's the solution? Has anyone talked to all the fedora mirrors to have a deltarpm repository? I can appreciate your problem. My Fedora7 install had an update for Firefox (more than 21MB). If I DL Firefox from the Mozilla site (the tar.gz), it's only about 9MB. I removed Firefox from Fedora7, and installed the one I'd DL'd directly from the Mozilla site. In the case of Firefox, if you have a whole bunch of distros like me, you only have to DL the latest Firefox version once, and can then update all your distros, without wasting more Internet bandwidth. That aside though, I'm on dialup, and you can well imagine how long big updates take. Most recently Debian Lenny, which I discovered I hadn't upgraded for nearly 2 months, had over 800MB of updates waiting, and Fedora 8, which again hadn't been updated for a while, had over 500MB of updates waiting. Neither was a bunch of fun, but I've sort of got used to dialup, and pay a fixed fee each month for the service, so it's not like it costs me a small fortune, but just a lot of patience. btw: I do also download .iso's for various distros. Kubuntu, and Archlinux arn't too bad, as both are only 1 CD's worth, but Fedora is a bunch of fun. I've downloaded FC3, 4, 5, and 7 on dialup (that's 4 or 5 CD iso's for each). Thankfully someone kindly sent me a set of CD iso's for FC6, and someone else sent me a DVD for Fedora 8, which I'm very gratefull for. I havn't gotten around to downloading Fedora 9 yet, which is thankfully available as a CD set from 1 site. I'll have to psych myself up first before going for Fedora 9. I might go for Kubuntu Hardy Heron first, as it also has the option of KDE4, and is contained on one CD .iso. I'd like to have a look at KDE4, but it seems to be receiving considerable flak, both on the Kubuntu, and Fedora list. I do understand where you're coming from though, and cringe when I see that OO needs to be updated. Recently gimp-help was updated on one of my distros, which was more than 87MB, and I
Re: Checking CPU temperature
Dear All, As I wrote here, I went to post a question about my problem in the lm-sensors mailing list, and I was told that, in the case of my motherboard, temp3 corresponds to the CPU temperature. Check the detailed reply at http://lists.lm-sensors.org/pipermail/lm-sensors/2008-June/023390.html Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Firefox 3 beta on Fedora 9 uses lots of IO after start
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 14:08 -0700, stan wrote: Brian C. Huffman wrote: I don't know for sure, but I think this must have been fixed by rc2 (based on my current performance). I couldn't live with the IO thrashing in b5. I just downloaded the binary from mozilla.org and installed it under /usr/lib/firefox-3.0rc2 and changed the references in /usr/bin/firefox. My performance is *much* better now. Once they get an RPM out, I'll switch. But for now, I'm able to actually work. -b Thanks for letting me know that RC2 is fixed for this issue, sounds like the way to go. You're right about how inconvenient it is. :-) I dl´ed the RC3 binary from mozilla.com and it does seem to work better. Unfortunately it's a 32-bit binary so a lot of my plugins don't work. I can't seem to find a 64-bit version anywhere. I seem to remember Mozilla used to keep a larger set of binaries in ftp.mozilla.com, not all of which appeared on the Web page, but now it's gone. Anyone managed to obtain (or build) a 64-bit version of RC3? poc PS I don't understand why this isn't considered important enough to be put in the updates repo. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How can we speed up rpm downloads?
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Caolan McNamara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 17:54 +0200, drago01 wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Justin Conover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 34MB it still takes time, but .deb is 50MB cheaper that the .rpm. you are comparing two different packages (2.0.4 and 2.4) There's a few other problems with a direct comparison of sizes because they are two packages called core with somewhat differing content. The Debian core package depends on a common package which is an additional 27megs in size. The content of both of these is included in the single Fedora core rpm. Additionally the default help content is included in the Fedora core rpm, which is available in the deb packages as help-en_US, which is another additional 11 megs. Additionally displaying help itself requires the use of the core writer libraries to render the html help, in Debian this means that the writer package is a dependency of help, and that's an additional 6megs in size in its .deb. While in Fedora writer is split into the optional bits called writer and the core required for use by help. Shrinking the writer rpm by approx 3 megs, and inflating the core one by the same. To manually extract the various contents for side-by-side comparison you can use rpm2cpio something.rpm | cpio -ivd vs ar x something.rpm tar xzf data.tar.gz C. -- fedora-test-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list Ok, everyone in this thread is replying to OOO, that was not my intent. If you compare the speed of getting updates in debian and fedora, debian is much faster. Forget package size at this point. Is it parallel downloads maybe. My main deal here is about the speed in which it takes to download all updates and install. I was merely trying to understand why debian seems to be much faster. I've been a loyal Fedora user since RH 6.2 or some were in there :) so I'm not leaving, just trying to understand when i play with it once in awhile it just handles downloads differently. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9/64-bit on Mac Pro
Chris Stark wrote: I am trying to install F9 x86_64 on my new Mac Pro workstation (dual Intel Xeon quad-core + 4GB RAM), and it appears that none of the F9 installer discs detect its USB hardware correctly. When I boot using the DVD or LiveCD, everything proceeds as usual, but once I get to the media check screen, I cannot use my keyboard. From the LiveCD, neither the keyboard nor mouse work. I've tried swapping out different keyboards and mice, and even hot-plugging, but nothing worked. Also, the media works fine; I installed F9/64 on my work Dell from the same disc. F9 32-bit works just fine on the Mac Pro, but naturally I cannot use my 4GB of RAM w/ a 32-bit OS. Also, I managed to install Ubuntu 64-bit, and that worked without issue. While Ubuntu is currently working acceptably well, I really do prefer Fedora, so I really want to find a way to make it work. Please let me know if there is any information I can provide, or if there are any tricks I can try with GRUB. Quick update... I installed CentOS 5.1/64-bit last night. It too installed without issue. This really seems to be a Fedora-specific issue. I have filed a bugzilla report. Aloha, begin:vcard fn:Chris Stark n:Stark;Chris org:UHM College of Education;Technology Distance Programs adr;dom:Wist Hall 236B;;1776 University Ave;Honolulu;HI;96822 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:M.Ed., RHCE, IT Specialist tel;work:808-956-3635 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.redhat.com/training/certification/verify/?rhce_cert_display:certno=805007150225313rhce_cert_display:verify_cb=Verify version:2.1 end:vcard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Ripping music CDs - program that is good with multiple optical drives
Marland V. Pittman wrote: Hello Fedora Users I need some suggestions for ripping CDs. I only got a short session in last night. My toddlers were clingy, and we had to make a run to the grocery. I took three CDs... my Kanye West discs. I loaded up my Fedora Install, which was hosed up from an kmod-nvidia yum install for some reason... getting rid of that let me try a few installations. I had three drives in my box at the time. 64-bit Fedora with updates. Gnome Desktop. Default apps installed. I tried Banshee, since it just went 1-dot-oh. Great experience. I'll probably go with it. (yum install banshee went well). It didn't find album info for one of the discs, and told me so. Rythmbox seemed hard to find options for automatic ripping. I won't be selecting discs manually, that's for sure. Maybe Rythymbox was reduced in functionality because of SoundJuicer being installed along side it. SoundJuicer seems to be designed to do exactly one thing, which is cool, I guess. I can't remember it really working well on multiple discs though. I yum installed grip, and it looked like I'd be able to do exactly what I wanted, but there were too many options. The script solutions I've been offered are similarly complex. I don't think I know enough about what I want to choose. I just want my discs digitized without hassle. I didn't get around to trying any KDE apps like Amarok, but I was pretty impressed by Banshee. I'm not big on that whole Mono is Evil thing, and I'm glad there were packages for Fedora. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Firefox 3 beta on Fedora 9 uses lots of IO after start
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 14:08 -0700, stan wrote: Brian C. Huffman wrote: I don't know for sure, but I think this must have been fixed by rc2 (based on my current performance). I couldn't live with the IO thrashing in b5. I just downloaded the binary from mozilla.org and installed it under /usr/lib/firefox-3.0rc2 and changed the references in /usr/bin/firefox. My performance is *much* better now. Once they get an RPM out, I'll switch. But for now, I'm able to actually work. -b Thanks for letting me know that RC2 is fixed for this issue, sounds like the way to go. You're right about how inconvenient it is. :-) I dl´ed the RC3 binary from mozilla.com and it does seem to work better. Unfortunately it's a 32-bit binary so a lot of my plugins don't work. I can't seem to find a 64-bit version anywhere. I seem to remember Mozilla used to keep a larger set of binaries in ftp.mozilla.com, not all of which appeared on the Web page, but now it's gone. Anyone managed to obtain (or build) a 64-bit version of RC3? poc PS I don't understand why this isn't considered important enough to be put in the updates repo. Not I but Mozilla has announced that Firefox 3 will be officially released on June 17th, so I imagine the Fedora 9 update won't be far behind. Raymond -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Sound sys does work
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed fc7. nVidia nforce sound card is installed. Playback is not working. Ramachandran That's a little concise for any assistance. :-) Suppose you went to get your car worked on. The mechanic asked you what was wrong and you said it is not working. That tells him something so general that there is no way he can fix your car. At least he has the car, so he can test it himself to see what is wrong. We don't have your computer. All we have is what you tell us. Try aplay -lL in a terminal or console and see if your sound card is found. If it is, type alsamixer in a terminal or console and make sure that the sound has been turned up. Alsa defaults to silence on start to protect your equipment and your ears. You should be able to do this from a menu in your desktop as well. tryaplay -v -Dplughw some.wav and see if any sound occurs. Go to this link, http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh and download and run the script there. It will scan your machine and put the output on a website. It will give you a link that you can post back to the list so we can see the sound setup for your machine. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Firefox 3 beta on Fedora 9 uses lots of IO after start
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dl´ed the RC3 binary from mozilla.com and it does seem to work better. Unfortunately it's a 32-bit binary so a lot of my plugins don't work. I can't seem to find a 64-bit version anywhere. I seem to remember Mozilla used to keep a larger set of binaries in ftp.mozilla.com, not all of which appeared on the Web page, but now it's gone. Anyone managed to obtain (or build) a 64-bit version of RC3? I think you want the x86_64 bit version here: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla1.9.0/ It's called a nightly, but I bet it's exactly the same as RC3. reid -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 12 June 2008 15:22:54 Chris Jones wrote: each having it's own particulars. I think I'll try seakmonkey next, and see what it offers. Dan Don't be surprised if it is the same as Thunderbird for you. My wife runs it and I don't see any differences. Next upgrade I am moving her to TB and FF. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Firefox 3 beta on Fedora 9 uses lots of IO after start
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 14:42 -0400, Raymond C. Rodgers wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 14:08 -0700, stan wrote: Brian C. Huffman wrote: I don't know for sure, but I think this must have been fixed by rc2 (based on my current performance). I couldn't live with the IO thrashing in b5. I just downloaded the binary from mozilla.org and installed it under /usr/lib/firefox-3.0rc2 and changed the references in /usr/bin/firefox. My performance is *much* better now. Once they get an RPM out, I'll switch. But for now, I'm able to actually work. -b Thanks for letting me know that RC2 is fixed for this issue, sounds like the way to go. You're right about how inconvenient it is. :-) I dl´ed the RC3 binary from mozilla.com and it does seem to work better. Unfortunately it's a 32-bit binary so a lot of my plugins don't work. I can't seem to find a 64-bit version anywhere. I seem to remember Mozilla used to keep a larger set of binaries in ftp.mozilla.com, not all of which appeared on the Web page, but now it's gone. Anyone managed to obtain (or build) a 64-bit version of RC3? poc PS I don't understand why this isn't considered important enough to be put in the updates repo. Not I but Mozilla has announced that Firefox 3 will be officially released on June 17th, so I imagine the Fedora 9 update won't be far behind. Yes, just saw that. Fingers crossed. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Firefox 3 beta on Fedora 9 uses lots of IO after start
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 13:00 -0600, Reid Rivenburgh wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dl´ed the RC3 binary from mozilla.com and it does seem to work better. Unfortunately it's a 32-bit binary so a lot of my plugins don't work. I can't seem to find a 64-bit version anywhere. I seem to remember Mozilla used to keep a larger set of binaries in ftp.mozilla.com, not all of which appeared on the Web page, but now it's gone. Anyone managed to obtain (or build) a 64-bit version of RC3? I think you want the x86_64 bit version here: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla1.9.0/ It's called a nightly, but I bet it's exactly the same as RC3. Thanks Reid, I'll check it out. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Ripping music CDs - program that is good with multiple optical drives
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Marland V. Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marland V. Pittman wrote: Hello Fedora Users I need some suggestions for ripping CDs. I only got a short session in last night. My toddlers were clingy, and we had to make a run to the grocery. I took three CDs... my Kanye West discs. I loaded up my Fedora Install, which was hosed up from an kmod-nvidia yum install for some reason... getting rid of that let me try a few installations. I had three drives in my box at the time. 64-bit Fedora with updates. Gnome Desktop. Default apps installed. I tried Banshee, since it just went 1-dot-oh. Great experience. I'll probably go with it. (yum install banshee went well). It didn't find album info for one of the discs, and told me so. Rythmbox seemed hard to find options for automatic ripping. I won't be selecting discs manually, that's for sure. Maybe Rythymbox was reduced in functionality because of SoundJuicer being installed along side it. SoundJuicer seems to be designed to do exactly one thing, which is cool, I guess. I can't remember it really working well on multiple discs though. As i inserted disks they showed up on the left then a right click and left click on copy to library and the disk was queued up. The second disk showed up separately and under the first, followed the same procedure and it gets queued up to rip after the first. Though I have not looked for an autorip option since its not much work to select them myself and who's going to change disks if I am not there? I also have not seen it alert when done but again i am sitting there and personally I am in no particular hurry. I have days of music already on board and i haven't shuffled through all of it yet. Come to think of it KAudio has an option for autorip and IIRC you can set it so it only rips on successful retrieval of the tags. and it will tell you when done and if it fails to retrieve tag info. Have you tried it? I yum installed grip, and it looked like I'd be able to do exactly what I wanted, but there were too many options. The script solutions I've been offered are similarly complex. I don't think I know enough about what I want to choose. I just want my discs digitized without hassle. I didn't get around to trying any KDE apps like Amarok, but I was pretty impressed by Banshee. I'm not big on that whole Mono is Evil thing, and I'm glad there were packages for Fedora. You can run KDE apps under gnome so don't let the lack of KDE desktop stop you. -- I am altering the deal. Pray I do not alter it any further.--Darth Vader -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
tr problem
Hi folks; I'm trying to convert a test file, src code for a legacy computer, whose eol is a single cr into one with a newline subbed for each cr, and tr is being a pita, it broken, or there is PEBKAC. If I use this syntax: tr -c \r \n filename filename2 Then the whole file is converted to nn's, every byte. The manpage (and pinfo tr too) is, shall we say, completely lacking in how to handle the file I/O. So how do you use tr? Or is there a better tool for this than tr? Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) I'm really enjoying not talking to you ... Let's not talk again REAL soon ... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: yum update sorts by file size before downloading
Don Russell wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Don Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last few times I've used yum update, I noticed the files are downloaded in order, smallest first. Is that deliberate, or just a coincidence? If it is deliberate, I'd like to suggest sorting in the other direction so largest is downloaded first. That way, while I'm waiting for it, I can always tell that the next file will be the same size or smaller than the one just completed, so I can better estimate how long it will be. Also, perception-wise, it gives the *appearance* that the process is speeding up instead of slowing down. :-) And, after all down loads are complete... a little summary of the average transfer rate would be nice. I like the new scale showing total % and individual file %... I filed a bug/enhancement, which was closed as won't fix Ref: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451047 I guess the explanation there confirms I'm not normal. :-) My guess would be that a bunch of people would start trying to download the largest files causing the most contention for the longest time, whereas the smaller files copy quickly helping to spread out the demand across various files. Not sure it that helps or hurts disk caches at the other end. B^) Why can't they make it configurable now that they've bothered to add it at all? Then they can default it to the current state -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: tr problem
Gene Heskett wrote: I'm trying to convert a test file, src code for a legacy computer, whose eol is a single cr into one with a newline subbed for each cr, and tr is being a pita, it broken, or there is PEBKAC. If I use this syntax: tr -c \r \n filename filename2 Then the whole file is converted to nn's, every byte. The manpage (and pinfo tr too) is, shall we say, completely lacking in how to handle the file I/O. So how do you use tr? Or is there a better tool for this than tr? The tr syntax would be tr -d '\r' but for one or a few files you can just load in vi (vim) and :set fileformat=unix and write it back out. Plus, you probably have a program called dos2unix installed... -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
[F9] Openoffice + java
Why I can't uninstall java-1.5.0 through yum without uninstalling openoffice? (I have downloaded java-1.6.0 so I don't need java-1.5.0 anymore) -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.org https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=270975topic_id=58169forum=10#forumpost270975 If you think, this is spam, please report this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and/or blame [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: wine problem in fc8
I found the solution to my problem at Wine headquarters. Ther is an open bugzilla on it. Sorry to bother you all. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: tr problem
Gene Heskett wrote: Hi folks; I'm trying to convert a test file, src code for a legacy computer, whose eol is a single cr into one with a newline subbed for each cr, and tr is being a pita, it broken, or there is PEBKAC. If I use this syntax: tr -c \r \n filename filename2 Then the whole file is converted to nn's, every byte. The manpage (and pinfo tr too) is, shall we say, completely lacking in how to handle the file I/O. So how do you use tr? Or is there a better tool for this than tr? Thanks. When the man page says that the -c option causes tr to first complement SET1, another way to say it is that using -c will cause a matche to everything but SET1. The reason file I/O in not covered is that tr is normally a filter, so you would use in a pipe between two other programs. It takes what comes in from stdin, does its thing, and sends it to stdout. This is common among filter programs. Another thing common among filter programs is that they will not have any opening message, and will send errors to stderr. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: smartrpm
Kam Leo wrote: Don't bother. Multiple bug reports have already been filed. I'm surprised that this problem keeps re-occurring. Same thing happened for the Fedora 8 release. Axel must have his hands full. The package ACLs appear to allow cvsextras members to commit. Any guess why some other maintainer who uses smart just fix it? I've never used smart at all, else I'd consider doing it myself. -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ You can't depend on the man who made the mess to clean it up. -- Richard Nixon, 1952 pgpQh5e8mwPfo.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Google Earth and nVidia [partly solved...]
On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 17:52 -0700, Lonni J Friedman wrote: Your nvidia driver installation is broken. If you're using Livna's RPMs, then talk to them. OK so part of the problem was that I had files from the nVidia installer lying around from before there were Livna RPMs available for that 169.04 version. My card didn't work with any older versions, so I used the install script when it came out, because I didn't have a fully functional machine without those drivers. That's an object lesson in why it's not a good idea to mix the script installer and RPMs. I think I have that cleaned up now (though it's hard to tell for sure without a manifest of all the files installed by the script). But when I start the new googleearth as a normal user, I still don't see the globe or the controls. It works fine if I start it as root. The SEtroublesooter doesn't complain, either. Any idea what's up with that? Thanks. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Matthew Saltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tried the latest GoogleEarth 4.3.7204.0836 (beta) with the latest kernel and nVidia drivers, and the result was: $ googleearth Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 173.14.05, but this NVIDIA driver component has version 169.04. Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version. NVIDIA: Direct rendering failed; attempting indirect rendering. And the screen opens, but no earth or controls show. Anybody have any idea what's up with that? TIA. $ rpm -q kernel kernel-2.6.24.7-92.fc8.x86_64 kernel-2.6.25.4-10.fc8.x86_64 $ rpm -qa \*nvidia\* xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-173.14.05-1.lvn8.x86_64 kmod-nvidia-173.14.05-2.lvn8.x86_64 kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.4-10.fc8-173.14.05-2.lvn8.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173.14.05-1.lvn8.x86_64 kmod-nvidia-2.6.24.7-92.fc8-173.14.05-1.lvn8.x86_64 -- -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: tr problem
Les Mikesell wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: I'm trying to convert a test file, src code for a legacy computer, whose eol is a single cr into one with a newline subbed for each cr, and tr is being a pita, it broken, or there is PEBKAC. If I use this syntax: tr -c \r \n filename filename2 Then the whole file is converted to nn's, every byte. The manpage (and pinfo tr too) is, shall we say, completely lacking in how to handle the file I/O. So how do you use tr? Or is there a better tool for this than tr? The tr syntax would be tr -d '\r' but for one or a few files you can just load in vi (vim) and :set fileformat=unix and write it back out. Plus, you probably have a program called dos2unix installed... Oops, I should have read past the word 'legacy' which must not have meant what I thought. tr '\r' '\n' should work. More like: cat input-filename | tr '\r' '\n' output-filename Not so? tr is a filter. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - Hosting Consulting, Inc. - -- - I never drink water because of the disgusting things that fish do - - in it.- - -- WC. Fields - -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
F9 - repositories messed up, can't find Opera ?
I would like to install the Opera browser to test. I normally install things via yum, so I # yum list opera* Loaded plugins: priorities, refresh-packagekit Error: No matching Packages to list Then I fired up synaptic and found that I only see packages that I already have installed. I don't see to see all the packages that should be available for F9. What repositories could/should I be using with F9 ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: tr problem
Rick Stevens wrote: The manpage (and pinfo tr too) is, shall we say, completely lacking in how to handle the file I/O. Plus, you probably have a program called dos2unix installed... Oops, I should have read past the word 'legacy' which must not have meant what I thought. tr '\r' '\n' should work. More like: cat input-filename | tr '\r' '\n' output-filename Not so? tr is a filter. It reads stdin and writes stdout, like most unix command line programs. The shell will connect those to whatever you want with |'s or 's. Using cat with a pipe is a waste of a process, though. tr can read it's own input just as well with input-filename. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Freshclam down?
Seems that I am not able to update my AntiVirus database. Is the site(s) down? Mine is trying to update from: db.US.clamav.net Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?
Robin Laing wrote: Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 12 June 2008 15:22:54 Chris Jones wrote: each having it's own particulars. I think I'll try seakmonkey next, and see what it offers. Dan Don't be surprised if it is the same as Thunderbird for you. My wife runs it and I don't see any differences. Next upgrade I am moving her to TB and FF. Yeah, TB SM does have similar lookfeel. Too bad that their Import/Export Address tool isn't keen, but I managed. One thing about TBSM, these are not causing looping messages into the Inboxes. Seems to be a problem with either/or/both Evo KMail. I was informed my my ISP that they were having problems at their end and this may explain dropped Email connections. Looks like I have to hammer my ISP and my Phone-line carrier to clean up their act. It will be tough going for sure, like they care :/ Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: tr problem
On 12Jun2008 16:35, Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I'm trying to convert a test file, src code for a legacy computer, whose eol is | a single cr into one with a newline subbed for each cr, and tr is being a pita, | it broken, or there is PEBKAC. | | If I use this syntax: | | tr -c \r \n filename filename2 | | Then the whole file is converted to nn's, every byte. That's because \ is a shell quoting character. You need to quote it:-) tr -c '\r' '\n' filename filename2 Then tr will see the \ character. | The manpage (and pinfo tr too) is, shall we say, completely lacking in how to | handle the file I/O. As Les has mentioned, tr is a filter (like almost every UNIX command in its bare form), so what you wrote is exactly right, except for the quotes. | Or is there a better tool for this than tr? No, tr is the best thing for this particular purpose. Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ So the master hit the novice upside the head with the back of his hand. Why did you do that!? I do not want to have to learn another editor. And the student was enlightened.- Larry Colen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Firefox 3 beta on Fedora 9 uses lots of IO after start
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 23:03 +0100, Colin J Thomson wrote: On Thursday 12 June 2008 20:21:18 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 13:00 -0600, Reid Rivenburgh wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dl´ed the RC3 binary from mozilla.com and it does seem to work better. Unfortunately it's a 32-bit binary so a lot of my plugins don't work. I can't seem to find a 64-bit version anywhere. I seem to remember Mozilla used to keep a larger set of binaries in ftp.mozilla.com, not all of which appeared on the Web page, but now it's gone. Anyone managed to obtain (or build) a 64-bit version of RC3? I think you want the x86_64 bit version here: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla1.9.0/ It's called a nightly, but I bet it's exactly the same as RC3. Thanks Reid, I'll check it out. You may also want to check out SwiftFox, available for many processor types: http://getswiftfox.com/index.htm The installer works well on this F9 box. The web page doesn't make clear just why one would want to do that, beyond implying they compiled with some optimizations. The phrase attempts to use existing Firefox plugins is also a bit off-putting. Does this mean it will use the same ones FF3 uses (i.e. not all of them) or are there further problems? I think I'll pass for now. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: tr problem
On 12Jun2008 19:47, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 18:53 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: | It reads stdin and writes stdout, like most unix command line programs. |The shell will connect those to whatever you want with |'s or | 's. Using cat with a pipe is a waste of a process, though. tr can | read it's own input just as well with input-filename. | | Quite true, but I remember a remark in one of the classic Unix papers to | the effect that people somehow found the 'cat foo | ' syntax more | natural. There's plenty of stuff that's more natural that shouldn't be done. I'd start with snoring and progress from there... -- Cameron Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ It's hard to believe that something as rational as the metric system was invented by the French. - Henry O. Farad [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 - repositories messed up, can't find Opera ?
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 16:59 -0600, linuxguy wrote: I would like to install the Opera browser to test. I normally install things via yum, so You have to get it directly from their website, and either do that yourself for each update, or let it check for updates itself when you use it. -- (This computer runs FC7, my others run FC4, FC5 FC6, all using Gnome in case that's important to the thread.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Switching virtual terminals
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 19:37 -0400, Jim Dever wrote: With my physical disabilities it's just easier to use the right one. And Right-CTRL-ALT-Fx does take you to the virtual terminal from X. It just doesn't do anything once you're in text mode. Then you want to ask about making the right ALT key do the same job as the left ALT key in the text consoles. Change the subject line, then someone who knows how to do that might see it and give you an answer. -- (This computer runs FC7, my others run FC4, FC5 FC6, all using Gnome in case that's important to the thread.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: hard drive install FC6 failed
1.my pc install with WinXp , and I want install FC6 in same harddisk.I don't understand what's you have said Aa Far As I Know none of the nixes refer to drives by letters like e: that is a windows convention. 2.grub has boot vmlinuz with initrd.img successful,so no problem with grub configure.I think problem is FC6 installer cannot find harddisk even than iso file.and if it can find harddisk ,it can sure find the directory ,it's not a question. Probably because of the way you refer to the file and where it is stored. Maybe you need a separate FAT or FAT32 partition to store the ISO or even better something formatted with ext3 or other nix filesystem, others can probably explain it better but I would say that is your problem. Never mind what I said. I should have gone back and reread the thread before I responded, my memory is shoddier than I remember ;^) -- An unwillingness to embarrass oneself makes learning more difficult -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- RyanYee How many roads must a man walk down before you can call him a Man?How many years can some people exist before They're allowed to be free?the answer is Blowing in the wind... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: tr problem
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: The manpage (and pinfo tr too) is, shall we say, completely lacking in how to handle the file I/O. Plus, you probably have a program called dos2unix installed... Oops, I should have read past the word 'legacy' which must not have meant what I thought. tr '\r' '\n' should work. More like: cat input-filename | tr '\r' '\n' output-filename Not so? tr is a filter. It reads stdin and writes stdout, like most unix command line programs. The shell will connect those to whatever you want with |'s or 's. Using cat with a pipe is a waste of a process, though. tr can read it's own input just as well with input-filename. Quite true, but I remember a remark in one of the classic Unix papers to the effect that people somehow found the 'cat foo | ' syntax more natural. I suppose you get used to using cat when there are multiple input files that you want to combine. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Foreign Language Playback In Totem
Hello, I recently reinstalled Fedora 9 on a Dell Dimension Desktop. I noticed that whenever I play movie DVD's in Totem, they are being played back in a foreign language (French or Spanish)instead of the default language (US English). Has anyone else had this problem? And if so, I do I correct it? Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Switching virtual terminals
Tim wrote: On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 19:37 -0400, Jim Dever wrote: With my physical disabilities it's just easier to use the right one. And Right-CTRL-ALT-Fx does take you to the virtual terminal from X. It just doesn't do anything once you're in text mode. Then you want to ask about making the right ALT key do the same job as the left ALT key in the text consoles. Change the subject line, then someone who knows how to do that might see it and give you an answer. This may be of interest. It covers a lot more then just remapping the right Alt key. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/187 Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 - repositories messed up, can't find Opera ?
linuxguy wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 10:02 +0930, Tim wrote: You have to get it directly from their website, and either do that yourself for each update, or let it check for updates itself when you use it. Thanks for the info. I did. Opera 9.5 is simply outstanding. The first Linux browser that handles youtube perfectly. So why isn't Opera part of the Fedora repository ? Even the version that I installed was labeled for F8/KDE3. Fedora has strict policy relating to applications that can be included because of Licensing. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/LicensingGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: tr problem
On Thursday 12 June 2008, Les Mikesell wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: I'm trying to convert a test file, src code for a legacy computer, whose eol is a single cr into one with a newline subbed for each cr, and tr is being a pita, it broken, or there is PEBKAC. If I use this syntax: tr -c \r \n filename filename2 Then the whole file is converted to nn's, every byte. The manpage (and pinfo tr too) is, shall we say, completely lacking in how to handle the file I/O. So how do you use tr? Or is there a better tool for this than tr? The tr syntax would be tr -d '\r' but for one or a few files you can just load in vi (vim) and :set fileformat=unix And that might be something that is not in the vim manpages Mike, thanks. and write it back out. Plus, you probably have a program called dos2unix installed... That is the other option with my CRS, I couldn't remember that name with a $1000 bill being offered. I'm seemingly being reminded that memory is the second thing to go. :) -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Hello? Enema Bondage? I'm calling because I want to be happy, I guess ... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: tr problem
On Thu June 12 2008 20:42:51 Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 12 June 2008, Michael Schwendt wrote: Why option -c? Cuz the manpage says that it triggers the character convert thing? My manpage says -c is for complementing the first set. Could you please show us the relevant excerpt from your buggy manpage? --Mike Bird -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: tr problem
On Thursday 12 June 2008, Mike Bird wrote: On Thu June 12 2008 20:42:51 Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 12 June 2008, Michael Schwendt wrote: Why option -c? Cuz the manpage says that it triggers the character convert thing? My manpage says -c is for complementing the first set. Could you please show us the relevant excerpt from your buggy manpage? --Mike Bird PEBKAC, Mike. Can't read plain english it would appear. Memory, 2nd thing to go... -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Irrationality is the square root of all evil -- Douglas Hofstadter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Download manager hangs
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:04 PM, John Selmys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Twice tonight I tried to download the F9 ISO. First the DVD, then the live CD. In both cases the download manager hung up at the very end. I had no option but to cancel the download. The DVD download wasted 5 hours and the CD download wasted another hour. I'm already using F9 on an AMD X2. I downloaded F9 ISO when my system was running F8. I upgraded to F9 and then gave away my DVD/CD. Now I wanted to get new copies for myself. I do my downloads with Seamonkey. It seems like the last chunk of the ISO just can't be delivered. I guess I'll have to use bittorrent or perhaps command-line ftp. I wonder if Seamonkey's download manager is broken? John If a torrent is too slow for you or a firewall is in the way try using wget from the command line. wget -c full-url-path-to-file will resume downloads. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 - repositories messed up, can't find Opera ?
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 21:11 -0600, linuxguy wrote: Opera 9.5 is simply outstanding. The first Linux browser that handles youtube perfectly. Hmm, until today I've never been able to get Opera to work with youtube, as it wouldn't support anything to do with Flash. Nice to see that's been sorted out. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.4-30.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Google Earth and nVidia [partly solved...]
Just a guess here, but check where google earth is installed and in the temp directory to see if any files were created as root. Temp or rc or init files being set to root will often keep user applications from starting in linux and unix systems (one more reason using root to run applications is not a good idea.) Regards, Les H On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 18:36 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 17:52 -0700, Lonni J Friedman wrote: Your nvidia driver installation is broken. If you're using Livna's RPMs, then talk to them. OK so part of the problem was that I had files from the nVidia installer lying around from before there were Livna RPMs available for that 169.04 version. My card didn't work with any older versions, so I used the install script when it came out, because I didn't have a fully functional machine without those drivers. That's an object lesson in why it's not a good idea to mix the script installer and RPMs. I think I have that cleaned up now (though it's hard to tell for sure without a manifest of all the files installed by the script). But when I start the new googleearth as a normal user, I still don't see the globe or the controls. It works fine if I start it as root. The SEtroublesooter doesn't complain, either. Any idea what's up with that? Thanks. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Matthew Saltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just tried the latest GoogleEarth 4.3.7204.0836 (beta) with the latest kernel and nVidia drivers, and the result was: $ googleearth Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 173.14.05, but this NVIDIA driver component has version 169.04. Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version. NVIDIA: Direct rendering failed; attempting indirect rendering. And the screen opens, but no earth or controls show. Anybody have any idea what's up with that? TIA. $ rpm -q kernel kernel-2.6.24.7-92.fc8.x86_64 kernel-2.6.25.4-10.fc8.x86_64 $ rpm -qa \*nvidia\* xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-173.14.05-1.lvn8.x86_64 kmod-nvidia-173.14.05-2.lvn8.x86_64 kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.4-10.fc8-173.14.05-2.lvn8.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173.14.05-1.lvn8.x86_64 kmod-nvidia-2.6.24.7-92.fc8-173.14.05-1.lvn8.x86_64 -- -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: tr problem
Gene Heskett wrote: I'm trying to convert a test file, src code for a legacy computer, whose eol is a single cr into one with a newline subbed for each cr, and tr is being a pita, it broken, or there is PEBKAC. If I use this syntax: tr -c \r \n filename filename2 Then the whole file is converted to nn's, every byte. The manpage (and pinfo tr too) is, shall we say, completely lacking in how to handle the file I/O. So how do you use tr? Why option -c? tr '\r' '\n' filename filename2 would do it. Cuz the manpage says that it triggers the character convert thing? No, tr actually takes 2 'sets' of characters even though in your use you only need one character in each set. For example tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' would lowercase a file (and the brackets and quotes aren't strictly necessary but would be on a sysV version). The -c option means to complement the first set (i.e. it becomes the characters not included). It doesn't touch on its performance if the option isn't given. And it doesn't mention using the quotes either, but it worked just fine, thank you very much. Man pages generally never mention the things the shell does to a command line before starting the program. This will include expanding variables and wildcard filenames, redirecting I/O, and other things triggered by shell metacharacters. In this case tr doesn't particularly need the quotes, but if you don't use them the shell will parse and remove the \ characters (treating them as quotes for the following character in its own parsing). These details are the same for every command you type (or script) and not repeated in every man page. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: smartrpm
Kam Leo wrote: The bug fix is trivial. The problem is that the fixed package, supposedly supplied on 21 May, has gone AWOL. Yeah, that's weird. I poked the release engineering folks[1] in irc and hopefully the update will return from the ether soon. [1] Okay, just one actually. But Luke was looking into it and I'm sure he'll get it fixed up. -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy. pgpVkYYaRrenF.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: javac on Fedora 9, how do I get it?
--- On Thu, 6/12/08, Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: javac on Fedora 9, how do I get it? To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 9:46 PM Dear all, I cannot find how to get javac on Fedora 9, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum list java* Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Installed Packages java-1.5.0-gcj.x86_641.5.0.0-21.fc9 installed java-1.6.0-openjdk.x86_64 1:1.6.0.0-0.12.b09.fc9 installed java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin.x86_64 1:1.6.0.0-0.12.b09.fc9 installed java_cup.x86_64 1:0.10-0.k.6jpp.2 installed javacc-manual.x86_64 4.0-4jpp.4 installed Available Packages java-1.5.0-gcj-devel.x86_64 1.5.0.0-21.fc9 fedora java-1.5.0-gcj-javadoc.x86_641.5.0.0-21.fc9 fedora java-1.5.0-gcj-src.x86_641.5.0.0-21.fc9 fedora java-1.6.0-openjdk.i386 1:1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9 updates java-1.6.0-openjdk.x86_64 1:1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9 updates java-1.6.0-openjdk-demo.x86_64 1:1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9 updates java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel.i386 1:1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9 updates java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel.x86_64 1:1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9 updates java-1.6.0-openjdk-javadoc.x86_64 1:1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9 updates java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin.x86_64 1:1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9 updates java-1.6.0-openjdk-src.x86_64 1:1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9 updates java_cup-javadoc.x86_64 1:0.10-0.k.6jpp.2 fedora java_cup-manual.x86_64 1:0.10-0.k.6jpp.2 fedora javacc.x86_644.0-4jpp.4 fedora javacc-demo.x86_64 4.0-4jpp.4 fedora javasqlite.x86_6420080401-2.fc9 fedora javasqlite-javadoc.x86_6420080401-2.fc9 fedora javastroke.x86_640.5.1-17.fc9 fedora [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# I installed javacc, javacc.x86_644.0-4jpp.4 but it did not work :( so I yum removed it. I just want to touch the basis on java. I cannot compile some basic java programs Here I will fix what I said. The interest program http://math.hws.edu/javanotes/source/Interest.java (In Fedora 8) I compiled the TextIO.java first http://math.hws.edu/javanotes/source/TextIO.java $ javac TextIO.java and then I could do the same for the other program $ javac Interest.java But in Fedora 9, javac is not found and I tried downloading javacc, which did not do the same thing. :( $ javacc is not the same as javac On Fedora 8, but the machine does not work anymore and now I am on Fedora 9 on another machine and I want for it to work. How can I achieve the same functionality on Fedora 9? TIA, Antonio -- At the moment I am yum installing Installing: java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel x86_64 1:1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9 updates 8.9 M after deducing from the page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JavaFAQ I hope that I did the right thing. Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
[Fedora-livecd-list] OpenGL with nVIDIA acceleration
Hello, How do I add the nVIDIA acceleration drivers to the Fedora kde livecd to have decent opengl performance ? Thank you -- Athanasios Gaitatzes (Saki) Virtual Reality Department Manager Foundation of the Hellenic World 38 Poulopoulou St., Thisio 11851, Athens Greece Mob: (+30) 698 254 0120 Tel: (+30) 212 254 3800 Fax: (+30) 212 254 3838 -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
[Fedora-livecd-list] Two different tracebacks with livecd-creator from git
Hi. I'm quite busy atm so please excuse If these problems are already known/bugged. 1. On one machine livecd-creator fails to start: # livecd-creator --config=/usr/share/livecd-tools/livecd-fedora-base-desktop.ks Using label 'fedora-base-desktop-200806120903' and name 'livecd-fedora-base-desktop-200806120903' Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/livecd-creator, line 132, in module sys.exit(main()) File /usr/bin/livecd-creator, line 106, in main ks = imgcreate.read_kickstart(options.kscfg) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/imgcreate/kickstart.py, line 46, in read_kickstart ks.readKickstart(path) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line 709, in readKickstart self._stateMachine (lambda: fh.readline()) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line 584, in _stateMachine self.handleCommand(lineno, args) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line 429, in handleCommand self.handler.dispatcher(args, lineno) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/base.py, line 328, in dispatcher self.commands[cmd].parse(args[1:]) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/commands/xconfig.py, line 97, in parse (opts, extra) = self.op.parse_args(args=args) AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'parse_args' 2. On another machine it fails after removing the root passwort: [...] /sbin/restorecon reset /var/run/pm-utils/storage context system_u:object_r:var_run_t:s0-system_u:object_r:hald_var_run_t:s0 Removing password for user root. passwd: Success Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/livecd-creator, line 135, in module sys.exit(main()) File /usr/bin/livecd-creator, line 119, in main creator.configure() File //usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/imgcreate/creator.py, line 710, in configure kickstart.XConfig(self._instroot).apply(ksh.xconfig) File //usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/imgcreate/kickstart.py, line 224, in apply if not ksxconfig.startX: AttributeError: F10_XConfig instance has no attribute 'startX' Rawhide and git are up2date on both machines (eg. pykickstart-1.36-1.fc10.noarch). Sebastian signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] OpenGL with nVIDIA acceleration
Saki Gaitatzes wrote: Hello, How do I add the nVIDIA acceleration drivers to the Fedora kde livecd to have decent opengl performance ? Add: repo --name=livna --baseurl=http://rpm.livna.org/9 (i think, you should check it to make sure) and in the %packages section, add the package name. -Jeroen -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Two different tracebacks with livecd-creator from git
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 11:58 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote: I'm quite busy atm so please excuse If these problems are already known/bugged. [snip] Rawhide and git are up2date on both machines (eg. pykickstart-1.36-1.fc10.noarch). I think both are fixed with pykickstart-1.38 Jeremy -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Two different tracebacks with livecd-creator from git
Am Do 12.Juni 2008 schrieb Jeremy Katz: On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 11:58 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote: I'm quite busy atm so please excuse If these problems are already known/bugged. [snip] Rawhide and git are up2date on both machines (eg. pykickstart-1.36-1.fc10.noarch). I think both are fixed with pykickstart-1.38 Oh, my bad. The mirror choosed by one machine was out-of-date. But after an update to pykickstart-1.38 it also fails with the first error: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/livecd-creator, line 135, in module sys.exit(main()) File /usr/bin/livecd-creator, line 109, in main ks = imgcreate.read_kickstart(options.kscfg) File //usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/imgcreate/kickstart.py, line 47, in read_kickstart ks.readKickstart(path) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line 709, in readKickstart self._stateMachine (lambda: fh.readline()) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line 555, in _stateMachine self.readKickstart (args[1], reset=False) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line 709, in readKickstart self._stateMachine (lambda: fh.readline()) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line 584, in _stateMachine self.handleCommand(lineno, args) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line 429, in handleCommand self.handler.dispatcher(args, lineno) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/base.py, line 328, in dispatcher self.commands[cmd].parse(args[1:]) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/commands/xconfig.py, line 97, in parse (opts, extra) = self.op.parse_args(args=args) AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'parse_args' Sebastian signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Two different tracebacks with livecd-creator from git
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 16:25 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote: Am Do 12.Juni 2008 schrieb Jeremy Katz: On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 11:58 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote: I'm quite busy atm so please excuse If these problems are already known/bugged. [snip] Rawhide and git are up2date on both machines (eg. pykickstart-1.36-1.fc10.noarch). I think both are fixed with pykickstart-1.38 Oh, my bad. The mirror choosed by one machine was out-of-date. But after an update to pykickstart-1.38 it also fails with the first error: I just pointed clumens at this and he's fixed it up in pykickstart git, should be a build in the next day or so or just grab the bits from git (or downgrade to the F9 pykickstart) Jeremy -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Networking during install
Jeremy Katz wrote: On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 13:08 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote: I have an odd question. I am trying to build a livecd for a partner, and hte rpm will not install via the livecd (net net is that the pre-scripts which they use dont play well in a chrooted env. I'm afraid to ask, but how so? They shouldn't really have any way of being able to tell. They are not using complete paths in the script. So.. it is failing when trying to find mkdir and date. I figured I would work around this by putting a wget int he post section to get the rpm from the repo, and then install it locally. Yum gives me this error: rpmdb: Program version 4.3 doesn't match environment version error: db4 error(-30974) from dbenv-open: DB_VERSION_MISMATCH: Database environment version mismatch error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - (-30974) error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm Any way around this? This is on the RHEL5 livecd tools. The version of rpm outside and inside the chroot are different. You can do the cleanup by hand of 'rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__*db*' as long as you know nothing from outside is accessing it at that point Thanks.. I will give that a try. -- bk -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Two different tracebacks with livecd-creator from git
BTW, what is the pykickstart git (e.g. git )? Tim Jeremy Katz wrote: On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 16:25 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote: Am Do 12.Juni 2008 schrieb Jeremy Katz: On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 11:58 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote: I'm quite busy atm so please excuse If these problems are already known/bugged. [snip] Rawhide and git are up2date on both machines (eg. pykickstart-1.36-1.fc10.noarch). I think both are fixed with pykickstart-1.38 Oh, my bad. The mirror choosed by one machine was out-of-date. But after an update to pykickstart-1.38 it also fails with the first error: I just pointed clumens at this and he's fixed it up in pykickstart git, should be a build in the next day or so or just grab the bits from git (or downgrade to the F9 pykickstart) Jeremy -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list -- _ Tim Wood, CLP, RHCT 719.338.7484 (tel) The Data Wranglers Web, Database more sincesince 1994 www.datawranglers.com -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
