Re: Announcing the fedoraLife Concept!

2008-06-12 Thread Nicu Buculei

Máirín Duffy wrote:

RazGriz wrote:
Hi, i think that the problem is not inside the product *(fedora) but 
inside some minds...there are some people inside the project fedora 
*(here in my country i can see it every day in some ambassadors and 
other members of the project), they just say : Fedora is not for 
everyone cause we don't wanna be baby seeter of nuggets, or help then 
to play mp3 or install a proprietary driver etc. We need bring 
Re-humanizer the project if of course we want people that use ubuntu 
today.


Well, I for one cannot comprehend this: I personally know people who are 
Fedora Ambassadors but use Ubuntu on their personal computers (thats is, 
when not using Windows). Why? Why aren't they Ubuntu Ambassadors instead?

But this is orthogonal to our topic.

First of all, you told me that you think the problem is not in the 
product, but instead the problem is in people's minds. Then you talked 
about how Fedora does not have mp3 patents and proprietary drivers. The 
omissions of that software are very much fundamental to Fedora's purpose 
and philosophy, and they are very much a part of what Fedora *IS*. We 
won't be adding that software anytime soon.


The sad fact is that *a lot* of people do not care about the *freedom* 
part. They just want something *gratis*. Here is a good read about this: 
http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3733286


I really would prefer us to *not* talk about changing what Fedora is 
here. I would rather we talk about how we can best market Fedora as it is.


Having a truly free operating system really is not mutually exclusive 
with having a usable operating system. There is nothing about being free 
and doing the right thing that means life must be hard. People perceive 
it as being such. How can we change people's perceptions of Fedora's 
freedom so that they are less afraid of it?


But we also should understand there are some thing we cannot have (in 
the near future or ever). But those can be seen as niches.



Again, let's not change Fedora, please!


+1


Second, in an odd way of thinking This has already happened, sort
of. The Fedora Art Studio spin does use that is found within the
distribution to build something that you here have coined 
'fedoraLife'.



The Art Studio spin is currently on hold. Help needed.

Well, i wanna help with it, i have a lot of experience with computer 
graphics made with free software , how i can help? is there a link to 
the sub project? can i bring more people to help?


The most needed thing right now is packaging.


Duvelle provided a link earlier in the thread. I will re-post it:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/FedoraArtStudio


Duvelle, Raz, Mo: let's take this on the Art list, where is the right 
place...


I would love if you would be willing to help with this spin. I built a 
ks file for the spin a long time ago, it probably sucks and needs some 
modifications, but it is here:


https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/b7/Artwork_ArtTeamProjects_FedoraArtStudio_artstudio-ks-oct_6_2007.cfg 



You will also need to add the following packages to it:
* gimp-lqr-plugin
* gimp-resynthesizer
* ufraw-gimp
* nip2
* GREYCstoration-gimp
* mathmap

We could also use some help getting fonts packaged up for Fedora so they 
can be included in the Art Studio spin. There is a list of 
appropriately-licensed fonts only needing packagers here:


http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Triaging/Pipeline/WishList

You can absolutely bring more people to help - we need all the help we 
can get!



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[Fwd: Re: Announcing the fedoraLife Concept!]

2008-06-12 Thread Máirín Duffy
Sorry folks I made a mess of this thread by not taking it to the art 
list. Here it is for reference.


~m

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Subject: Re: Announcing the fedoraLife Concept!
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:37:01 -0400
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RazGriz wrote:
Hi, i agree with you, i just said their words, we don't need add this 
things to the core, we need change the way that we use to deal with the 
common user =], they just don't know nothing about the real freedom of 
choice and most of then just don't wanna learn anything about it, but we 
still can take then showing our stuff whitout proprietary packages, 
cause the most important thing for this people is not software, but yes 
what it can do, if it can bring new and good computational experiences 
etc =] . I think that we already make it but only with the ambassadors, 
its time to the developers, artwork*(i am parte of this team inside my 
country) and marketing directly move their actions to this goal, fedora 
is not just a system of another free software to me, fedora is a way of 
life and i am very proud of it.


Sweet, we are on the same page then. Awesome :)

One way I think is a good way to help change these perceptions is to
make really cool stuff with Fedora and free tools, and then show it off.
For example, I end up showing a lot of the graphics I've worked on to a
lot of people, so I always make a point to let them know the graphics
were made with Inkscape, Gimp, and/or Scribus. If we can make
high-quality things using Fedora then people will see what Fedora can
really do. And they will have solid proof, not just a perception or an
idea based on what someone else told them.


Fedora art-studio : I made an wall paper to start my engines, can i show 
it 4 you? If yes, where i can do this?


Sure, fedora-art-list@redhat.com is a good place. I don't know if we are
going to be theming the art studio any differently than main Fedora at
this point though. The biggest concern right now is to get an ISO built.

If you are not so interested in building, you could help us pick out
software to include in the Art Studio:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/FedoraArtStudio/PackageManifest

Or you could help us find free fonts to include. The open font library
is a good place to look. There's other places too like
smashingmagazine.com usually has articles about new free fonts. Do note
that to be included in Fedora the fonts must be free, so the fonts you
propose to include must be under a license that is acceptable for
inclusion in Fedora:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/LicensingGuidelines

Sometimes, though, if you can get in touch with the font creator, they
may be willing to relicense the font for us. The best license I think to
ask them to license the font under is under the Open Font License.

Add any acceptable fonts you find to:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Font_wishlist

You could also pick out open clip art we could include in the Spin:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/FedoraArtStudio/Clipart

Or templates, plugins, brushes, textures, palettes (colorlovers.com is a
good site to go to find cool color palettes. You could easily build a
set of gimp palette files from there)

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Re: [Fwd: Re: Announcing the fedoraLife Concept!]

2008-06-12 Thread Nicu Buculei

Máirín Duffy wrote:


RazGriz wrote:


Fedora art-studio : I made an wall paper to start my engines, can i 
show it 4 you? If yes, where i can do this?


As we don't have for the moment a gallery, the best way is to post your 
wallpaper anywhere on the web (your fedorapeople account is OK, but also 
Flickr, deviantArt, etc. are valid choices)



Sure, fedora-art-list@redhat.com is a good place. I don't know if we are
going to be theming the art studio any differently than main Fedora at
this point though. The biggest concern right now is to get an ISO built.


I also think building a first version of the ISO should be the first 
priority. We can add packages later, we can talk about themes later.


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Re: 2 Wallpapers

2008-06-12 Thread Nicu Buculei

ambrish dhaka wrote:

Hello! Fedora friends,
I join your community by producing two wall papers, designed on GIMP. Hope they 
find some acknowledgement.


Sorry everybody, this is my fault. I saw on the moderation queue this 
message with 2 attached  images (without being able to see the content 
of the images) from an unsubscribed user and took it as a legit 
introduction.


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Re: [Fwd: Re: Announcing the fedoraLife Concept!]

2008-06-12 Thread Michael Beckwith

Nicu Buculei wrote:

Máirín Duffy wrote:


RazGriz wrote:


Fedora art-studio : I made an wall paper to start my engines, can i 
show it 4 you? If yes, where i can do this?


As we don't have for the moment a gallery, the best way is to post 
your wallpaper anywhere on the web (your fedorapeople account is OK, 
but also Flickr, deviantArt, etc. are valid choices)



Sure, fedora-art-list@redhat.com is a good place. I don't know if we are
going to be theming the art studio any differently than main Fedora at
this point though. The biggest concern right now is to get an ISO built.


I also think building a first version of the ISO should be the first 
priority. We can add packages later, we can talk about themes later.


Something I talked to Mo about last night, and will be attempting in the 
near future. I am having some growing interest in really stepping up for 
this spin and getting it going.


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IAX Phone Icon Request

2008-06-12 Thread Stojan Dimitrovski
Hello everyone,

I'd like to claim the IAX Phone applications icon request from the
DesignService.

I already finished a 48x48 Tango-standards (some exceptions as to the
buttons and darker gradients) icon of the phone (smaller versions are to
follow after the acknowledgment of this design). Please do knock me out
with suggestions on what to do with it and what to change.

Thanks!

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Re: IAX Phone Icon Request

2008-06-12 Thread Máirín Duffy

Hi Stojan,

Stojan Dimitrovski wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'd like to claim the IAX Phone applications icon request from the
DesignService.

I already finished a 48x48 Tango-standards (some exceptions as to the
buttons and darker gradients) icon of the phone (smaller versions are to
follow after the acknowledgment of this design). 


Right now the default icon theme for Fedora is the gnome-icon-theme, but 
that is very compatible with the Tango standards so this icon should fit 
right in. Great work!



Please do knock me out
with suggestions on what to do with it and what to change.


I have a couple of suggestions:

- the buttons look a little flat. Can you try making them more 3D? A 
cheap trick to do this is to just add a second outline around the shape. 
I'd make the buttons maybe black as they are now, then a grey around the 
black, then a white around the grey. Experiment and see what you can do. 
If you need help let me know.


- It looks like your buttons are a little fuzzy... make sure the 
outlines aren't inbetween squares of the pixel grid to correct this.


- It looks a little weird without the cord connecting the handset to the 
phone base. In the 48x48 version you should be able to squeeze it in 
although it would seem reasonable to cut it out in 24x24 and smaller. 
What do you think?


Overall, this is awesome work and I'm very impressed. You're off to a 
great start!


~m

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Re: IAX Phone Icon Request

2008-06-12 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 02:01 +0200, Stojan Dimitrovski wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 I'd like to claim the IAX Phone applications icon request from the
 DesignService.
 
 I already finished a 48x48 Tango-standards (some exceptions as to the
 buttons and darker gradients) icon of the phone (smaller versions are to
 follow after the acknowledgment of this design). Please do knock me out
 with suggestions on what to do with it and what to change.

Looks great to me, thanks!

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Re: Hello, please let me introduce myself

2008-06-12 Thread Nicu Buculei

RazGriz wrote:

Hello everyone, please let me introduce myself.


Hi!

I'm Guilherme Gonçalves from Rio de Janeiro *(Brazil) but the community 
prefer call me Razgriz*(i really don't know why but perhaps...my 
ex-wife can explain this thing one day if...).


Welcome to the project, Razgriz!

Well, i am part of the Artwork team from the project  Revista Fedora 
Brazil http://www.projetofedora.org/Revista since the second edition 
and it is my primary contribution as a fedora project member, hope here 
i can help in several projects specially in the new fedora spin Fedora 
art-studio(love this name).


You do an awesome work with the magazine, it is a great piece of work.

Well, here i am to help everyone and contribute with everything that i 
can, i will do my best to the project as you all make every time.


Currently the two hottest areas in need for contribution are the design 
requests queue (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService) and 
the Echo theme development (https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/).


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Re: IAX Phone Icon Request

2008-06-12 Thread Nicu Buculei

Stojan Dimitrovski wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'd like to claim the IAX Phone applications icon request from the
DesignService.

I already finished a 48x48 Tango-standards (some exceptions as to the
buttons and darker gradients) icon of the phone (smaller versions are to
follow after the acknowledgment of this design). Please do knock me out
with suggestions on what to do with it and what to change.


Can you update the wiki page about the status? (at least change the 
status to taken and add your name, if you feel the graphic is not 100% 
ready).


If you do not have wiki editing rights, create an account in the Fedora 
Account System (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/new) and 
then apply for membership in the art group.


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[Bug 440992] [ro] Create (U+0218..021B, 2011) and fix (U+0162/0163) in Liberation Fonts.

2008-06-12 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: [ro] Create (U+0218..021B,2011) and fix (U+0162/0163) in Liberation 
Fonts.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440992





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-12 02:53 EST ---
Hi, I have modified all of the fonts same as what I have done on Sans-Regular
for testing:

https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts/browser/sandbox/ttf_1_04c_bz440992_test

Please feel free to have a look. If everything is okay, I will close this bug
and release official ver 1.04.

Thank you very much.

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[Bug 440992] [ro] Correct Romanian glyphs in Liberation Fonts.

2008-06-12 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: [ro] Correct Romanian glyphs in Liberation Fonts.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440992





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Packaged editions:

https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/i/liberation-fonts/

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[Bug 450810] Incorrect width of slash '/' in default Korean font.

2008-06-12 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: Incorrect width of slash '/' in default Korean font.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450810





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-13 01:09 EST ---
'/' looks like a full-width glyph. Are they input barely or with SCIM?

I installed Korean Support and booted into Korean Gnome desktop. The '/' in my
gnome-terminal (default monospace font) doesn't show like the screenshot in
comment #1.

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[Bug 450810] Incorrect width of slash '/' in default Korean font.

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Summary: Incorrect width of slash '/' in default Korean font.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450810


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Meeting Log - 2008-06-12

2008-06-12 Thread Ricky Zhou
16:00 -!- ricky changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- 
Who's here?
16:00  G moo!
16:00  * harrisony 
16:01  ivazquez Pong.
16:01  ricky abadger1999, dgilmore, f13, lmacken, paulobanon , skvidal 
anybody I forgot, ping :-)
16:01  G ivazquez: congratulations!
16:01  jcollie hello!
16:01  ivazquez Thanks.
16:01  dgilmore hey ricky
16:01  G ivazquez: another cvsextras sponsor in our midst!
16:01  * mmcgrath is here
16:02  ricky ivazquez: Oh, congrats from me too
16:02  ivazquez Thanks.
16:02 -!- ricky changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- 
Tickets
16:02  * iWolf lurks
16:02  ricky .ticket 395
16:02  zodbot ricky: #395 (Audio Streaming of Fedora Board Conference Calls) 
- Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - 
https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/395
16:02  * lmacken is kind of sort of not really here
16:02  marek hello :)
16:02  ricky .tiny 
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=newstatus=assignedstatus=reopenedgroup=milestonekeywords=~Meetingorder=priority
16:02  zodbot ricky: http://tinyurl.com/47e37y
16:02  jcollie some progress finally...
16:03  ricky :-)
16:03  G yippee!
16:03  jcollie i had mmcgrath load rhel5 back onto asterisk1
16:03  jcollie i'm pupptizing stuff now
16:03  jcollie we're going to start simple, with just point-to-point calls 
and maybe a few simple audio conferences
16:04  jcollie fancy stuff will come later
16:04  * jwalters lurks as well
16:04  ricky Cool, can't wait to see that move once puppet is working :-)
16:05  jcollie mmcgrath and ricky are going to work on fas integration
16:05  ricky And ivazquez has made a lot of progress on the plugins 
architecture, which will be very helpful as well
16:05  jcollie supposedly we have some US and UK DID numbers for to dial in 
from cell phones and land lines
16:05  ivazquez The changes are in the ivazquez branch of fas.
16:05  ricky Is this something to work on more at FUDCon, perhaps?  :-)
16:06  mmcgrath jcollie: thats correct, 4 in the US and one in the uk.
16:06  jcollie well, i could maybe work DURING fudcon, but not AT fudcon :(
16:06  ricky Ah :-/
16:07  G mmcgrath: got a NZ DDI yet? :P
16:07  ricky Can't wait to see what this brings to meetings and the like
16:07  mmcgrath G: not yet
16:07  ricky All right
16:07  ricky .ticket 398
16:07  zodbot ricky: #398 (elfutils `monotone' (mtn) error) - Fedora 
Infrastructure - Trac - 
https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/398
16:07 -!- tgalyean [EMAIL PROTECTED] has joined #fedora-meeting
16:08  * ricky doesn't see rmcgrath around
16:08  ricky tgalyean: Hey, good that you could make it :-0
16:08  ricky **:-)
16:08  ricky .ticket 446
16:08  tgalyean :) im still on the call but im nodding out
16:08  zodbot ricky: #446 (Possibility to add external links on spins page) - 
Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - 
https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/446
16:09  ricky dgilmore: Are you the point person for this ticket?
16:09  tgalyean ricky: we are only about half way through the conf call :(
16:10  ricky OK, guess we can move on for now
16:10  ricky .ticket 547
16:10  zodbot ricky: #547 (Koji DB Server as postgres 8.3) - Fedora 
Infrastructure - Trac - 
https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/547
16:10  dgilmore ricky: yes
16:10  ricky Oops, never mind :-)
16:10  ricky dgilmore: Any updates on that?  Is it just the technical issue 
of getting them in at this point?
16:11 -!- bashohII [EMAIL PROTECTED] has quit 夢よりも現の鷹ぞ頼もしき
16:11  dgilmore ricky: im lame  but http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spins
16:11  dgilmore we need some good text as a warning
16:11  dgilmore and a table that people can fill in for there spin info
16:12  ricky Ah, OK so it'll just be a link from spins.fp.o, I guess
16:12  dgilmore ricky: yeah
16:12  G The content on these pages is provided by external parties and 
Fedora Project takes no responsibility :P
16:12  dgilmore we need a decent disclaimer
16:12  ricky (Things might start moving around spins.fp.o more - some people 
in websites have shown interest in working on it)
16:13  ricky dgilmore: Is this something we could ask on  f-a-b?
16:13  G The content of these spins is not monitored by the Fedora Project 
also sounds good
16:13 -!- mdomsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] has joined #fedora-meeting
16:13  dgilmore ricky: probably the best place
16:13 -!- mdomsch is now known as mdomsch_ord
16:14  * abadger1999 shows up late
16:14  ricky Ah, OK - so it looks like we're very close, then :-)
16:14  dgilmore ricky: anyway i suck  it really should have been done a month 
ago
16:14  ricky No worries, there's always so much work to be done :-)
16:15  ricky .ticket 547
16:15 -!- dwmw2 is now known as dwmw2_gone
16:15  zodbot ricky: #547 (Koji DB Server as postgres 8.3) - Fedora 
Infrastructure - Trac - 
https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/547
16:15  ricky This should be a popular one :-)
16:15  ricky The last I've heard is 

Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?

2008-06-12 Thread Mike Chambers
On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 14:04 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

 Even though EVO's GUI sucks for configurability (fonts for each pane,
 default
 message title-bar for each directory(folder) {I want Subject: Sender:
 Date and
 not Sender:Subject:Date for example}, default thread message collapse
 for each
 directory (folder) is absent or has to be manually set, every time),
 but EVO is very
 fast with threaded message processing. It does not tie up my system.

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then select the Fields Shown button.  On the right, select which field
you want first and move it up or down with the appropriate buttons.
That should give you what you want.

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Re: RPM creation question

2008-06-12 Thread Mamoru Tasaka

Clint Dilks wrote, at 06/12/2008 03:45 PM +9:00:

Hi,

Is there any nice way in a .spec file to tell rpmbuild not to call 
brp-java-repack-jars?  Some Web Searching indicates that most people 
just hack the script.  Is there a better way ?




$ rpm --showrc shows %__os_install_post calls 
/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/brp-java-repack-jars
if %__jar_repack macro is not defined. So just adding

%define __jar_repack %{nil}

at the top of the needed spec file or adding

%__jar_repack %{nil}

on ~/.rpmmacros should do what you want.

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Re: f8 - can not log out of kde

2008-06-12 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 12 June 2008 04:58:09 g wrote:
 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  Ctrl-Alt-Backspace kills the X server, so it works for logging out if
  all else fails.

 i am aware of above, but when used, any configs are lost. i need a cure,
 not a work around.

Try System Settings  Advanced  Session Manager

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Re: fedoraproject.org IP adress?

2008-06-12 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 14:23 -0400, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
 Adding this to /etc/hosts I can use yum to download and install
 software from Fedora mirrors.

Don't forget to remove them once the current DNS issues are over.  Else,
the next time DNS changes occur, you'll be looking in the wrong place.

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Re: hard drive install FC6 failed

2008-06-12 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 09:08 +0800, RyanYee/叶晔 wrote:
 My PC is DELL optiplex GX280,with SATA Hard disk.
 I had download FC6 DVD iso file to my harddisk(fat32 partision)
 then try to use GRUB(dos) to load and install.
 when I choosed Install Method(hard drive),it said no driver found,
 but in driver list,I can't find mine(intel 82801FB ultra ATA Storage
 Controller 2651).so I think maybe my initrd.img hasn't that module.can
 anyone help me with that?

What methods are available to you to boot your computer up to start an
install?

For me, I burnt the net install, booted from that, and used it to
install using the DVD ISO file on a hard drive.  I'd expect that if I
could boot the netinst disc, that I could have extracted files from it
and directly booted them using GRUB, too.  But I've not tried that
approach.

 I have experience on Installing RH 9.0 on same PC with same method. so
 I  am sure my grub configure,and sata set to normal mode in bios is
 right.In RH9.0 I can easy to choose partision which hold my iso
 file,but in FC6 no way to do it.

Since you've had successful and unsuccessful installs, you might want to
post the configuration options that you've used.

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Re: hard drive install FC6 failed

2008-06-12 Thread RyanYee/叶晔
1.I put DVD iso file in my window partision like E:/fc6/fc6xxx.iso
2.I get vmlinuz  initrd.img from isolinux directory (inside of
fc6xxx.iso),put them in E:/fc6
3.in grub command line
grub kernel (hd0,5)/fc6/vmlinuz
grub initrd (hd0,5)/fc6/initrd.img
grub boot
4.enter install step ,choose method Hard drive,then No driver found.

2008/6/12 Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 What methods are available to you to boot your computer up to start an
 install?

 For me, I burnt the net install, booted from that, and used it to
 install using the DVD ISO file on a hard drive.  I'd expect that if I
 could boot the netinst disc, that I could have extracted files from it
 and directly booted them using GRUB, too.  But I've not tried that
 approach.

these two result only different after method choose,same in grub configure
and bios parameter set
so I think why FC6 can't find my iso file,cause bios has made SATA work as
IDE hard disk.
while RH9.0 can do it  grub can do it .
 Since you've had successful and unsuccessful installs, you might want to
 post the configuration options that you've used.

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Re: Weird scrambled fonts

2008-06-12 Thread Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo
Am Mittwoch, den 11.06.2008, 23:01 -0600 schrieb Eric Brunson:
 Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote:
  Morning. 
 
  Some of my fonts looks weirdly scrambled:
 
  http://www.padep.org.bo/fonts/
 
  Why could that be? freetype-freworld? 

 
 I noticed it both with and without freetype-freeworld.  We're discussing 
 it on FedoraForum and trying to find a common thread.  I see it on three 
 machines, all are using kmod-nvidia from livna as well as another user 
 on the forum, are you?

I made some tests, and concluded this behavior appears ONLY when using
monochrome fonts, with nvidia and nv drivers, please see:

http://www.padep.org.bo/fonts/config.png

I tried my tests with nvidia driver and with nv.

I see the scrambling on the only PC with NVIDIA I have. Currently Im not
using kmod-nvidia, but nv (I think its the nouveau driver), and can see
this behavior. Please see http://www.padep.org.bo/fonts/abiword2.png
which I took today, with this xorg.conf:

# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep -v ^$
Section ServerLayout
Identifier Default Layout
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection
Section Files
ModulePath   /usr/lib/xorg/modules
EndSection
Section ServerFlags
Option  AIGLX on
EndSection
Section InputDevice
# keyboard added by rhpxl
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
Option  XkbModel pc105
Option  XkbLayout us
Option  XkbVariant intl
EndSection
Section Device
Identifier  Videocard0
Driver  nv
EndSection
Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Videocard0
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section Extensions
Option  Composite Enable
EndSection

# lsmod|grep nv

# rpm -qa|grep nv
gnome-python2-canvas-2.22.0-2.fc9.i386
NetworkManager-openvpn-0.7.0-10.svn3632.fc9.i386
libgnomecanvas-2.20.1.1-2.fc9.i386
libgnomecanvasmm26-2.22.0-1.fc9.i386
openvpn-2.1-0.25.rc7.fc9.i386
libgnomecanvas-devel-2.20.1.1-2.fc9.i386
xorg-x11-drv-nv-2.1.8-1.fc9.i386

Eric, thanks a lot. Please refer to my reply in the forum if you need.

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Re: nv/nvidia+antialiasing fonts (was: Weird scrambled fonts)

2008-06-12 Thread Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo
Am Donnerstag, den 12.06.2008, 07:28 -0400 schrieb Rodolfo Alcazar
Portillo:
 Am Mittwoch, den 11.06.2008, 23:01 -0600 schrieb Eric Brunson:
  Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote:
   Morning. 
  
   Some of my fonts looks weirdly scrambled:
  
   http://www.padep.org.bo/fonts/
  
   Why could that be? freetype-freworld? 
 
  
  I noticed it both with and without freetype-freeworld.  We're discussing 
  it on FedoraForum and trying to find a common thread.  I see it on three 
  machines, all are using kmod-nvidia from livna as well as another user 
  on the forum, are you?

Just tracking the FedoraForum thread:

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=189695highlight=fonts 
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F8: latest pidgin update broken?

2008-06-12 Thread Niels Weber
Hi all,

with the latest F8 pidgin update, pidgin always crashes after a few
seconds of running. It claims that it tries to dump a core but I
couldn't find that so far.
Does anyone else have this problem?

Thanks,
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Re: ssh connection problems

2008-06-12 Thread Laszlo BERES

Danny Yee írta:


Since upgrading to Fedora 9, my ssh connections from home are
regularly freezing.


Half year ago (before F9) I had exactly the same issue. The only thing I 
caught was some strange TCP header mismatch, but with F9 these problems 
had gone. Have you tcpdumped the connections?


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Re: Fwd: [help] how to deal with Incorrect metadata area header checksum in LVM

2008-06-12 Thread max

Zhen Zhou wrote:

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:45 PM, David Timms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Zhen Zhou wrote:

So what is the right path to recover these lvm?

Any tips will be welcome! Thanks in advanced,

BTW: the attached is lvm metadata file. More detail information
needed, pls tell me.

You might find experts in LVM hanging out on:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [subscription required].

Good luck.

FTA, thanks for your tips.
and I really wonder whether these errors Incorrect metadata area
header checksum,
Volume group VolGroup00 metadata is inconsistent is impossible to recover.

Or what I need to deal, is to follow:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general/196481
to recover all lvm's data?

Any tips will be welcome. TIA

Zhou Zhen

I asked in a related thread on the developer's list and I'll ask here. 
Someone please let me know if my question doesn't make any sense. Is it 
harder to recover files from an LVM than with the older partioning scheme?


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Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?

2008-06-12 Thread Daniel B. Thurman

On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 23:30 -0700, Mike Chambers wrote:

 On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 14:04 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 
  Even though EVO's GUI sucks for configurability (fonts for each
 pane, 
  default 
  message title-bar for each directory(folder) {I want Subject:
 Sender: 
  Date and 
  not Sender:Subject:Date for example}, default thread message
 collapse 
  for each 
  directory (folder) is absent or has to be manually set, every
 time), 
  but EVO is very 
  fast with threaded message processing. It does not tie up my system.
 
 Dont' know if you have tried this, but if you point your mouse at the 
 from/subject/date fields, right click, select Customize Current View, 
 then select the Fields Shown button.  On the right, select which
 field 
 you want first and move it up or down with the appropriate buttons. 
 That should give you what you want.

Yes, of course.  But how about doing this over and over again with
several
folders in your entire tree?  If you have a small tree, no big deal, but
if you
have many trees, ugh. It takes awhile, granted, but gets worst if you
have
to do this for each user, for each computer, as an IT personnel?
Anyway,
in any case, it is just one issue in many other issues in making Evo
more robust
in terms of user configurability, overall.  I liked the way Thunderbird
and Kmail
implemented their interfaces, unfortunately their engines were not
robust
enough to be useful.

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Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?

2008-06-12 Thread Chris Jones


I've been using kmail for several years.  Tried evo and hated it - of course 
that was years ago, so it may be quite different now.  Tried Thunderbird, but 
there were too many things in kmail that I couldn't do in t'bird, so here I 
stay :-)


I also used to use kmail a lot but eventually gave up on it due to its 
imap support not being that good (IMHO). Does it still force the user to 
choose when setting up an imap account between 'imap' and 'disconnected 
imap' ? Either you choose 'imap' where messages are only downloaded as 
they are needed, but you have no offline support, or 'disconnected 
imap', where they are available offlne, but kmail insists you download 
them *all*, not just as and when you read them. This always seemed an 
insane choice to me


I now use thunderbird which has the best of both, offline support and 
download on demand...


I hope kmail's imap support gets some attention in KDE4, if it does then 
I might go back ...


Chris

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match device files with LUN ID

2008-06-12 Thread Tom Spec
Does anyone know how I can correlate which device files (sda, sdb, sdc, etc) 
match up with which LUNs in /proc/scsi/scsi?  I'm sure there is a command I can 
use to give output like:

devicefile1, scsi, channel, id, lun
devicefile2, scsi, channel, id, lun
devicefile3, scsi, channel, id, lun

But I can't remember what it is.  Anyone?
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Re: hard drive install FC6 failed

2008-06-12 Thread max

RyanYee/叶晔 wrote:

1.I put DVD iso file in my window partision like E:/fc6/fc6xxx.iso
2.I get vmlinuz  initrd.img from isolinux directory (inside of
fc6xxx.iso),put them in E:/fc6


Aa Far As I Know none of the nixes refer to drives by letters like e: 
that is a windows convention.



3.in grub command line
grub kernel (hd0,5)/fc6/vmlinuz
grub initrd (hd0,5)/fc6/initrd.img
grub boot
4.enter install step ,choose method Hard drive,then No driver found.


Probably because of the way you refer to the file and where it is 
stored. Maybe you need a separate FAT or FAT32 partition to store the 
ISO or even better something formatted with ext3 or other nix 
filesystem, others can probably explain it better but I would say that 
is your problem.



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Re: Checking CPU temperature

2008-06-12 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 18:05 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 17:01 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
  On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 16:06 +0100, Paul Smith wrote:
   Dear All,
   
   In the output below, where should I look for the CPU temperature? The 
   value
   
   CPU Temp: -2.0°C  (low  = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C)  sensor = 
   transistor
   
   seems unlikely. Or is -2.0°C realistic?
   
   Is there some other program to check the CPU temperature?
   
   Thanks in advance,
   
   Paul
   
  cat  /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature
  will do it. -2.0C would be a really cold CPU. Colder than ice.
 
 You need to read the thread from the beginning. The OP has already
 explained that this doesn't work.
 
 poc
 
Actually he said: cat  /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
would not work since it is supposed to be: THM
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Re: hard drive install FC6 failed

2008-06-12 Thread max

max wrote:

RyanYee/叶晔 wrote:

1.I put DVD iso file in my window partision like E:/fc6/fc6xxx.iso
2.I get vmlinuz  initrd.img from isolinux directory (inside of
fc6xxx.iso),put them in E:/fc6


Aa Far As I Know none of the nixes refer to drives by letters like e: 
that is a windows convention.



3.in grub command line
grub kernel (hd0,5)/fc6/vmlinuz
grub initrd (hd0,5)/fc6/initrd.img
grub boot
4.enter install step ,choose method Hard drive,then No driver found.


Probably because of the way you refer to the file and where it is 
stored. Maybe you need a separate FAT or FAT32 partition to store the 
ISO or even better something formatted with ext3 or other nix 
filesystem, others can probably explain it better but I would say that 
is your problem.



Never mind what I said. I should have gone back and reread the thread 
before I responded, my memory is shoddier than I remember ;^)


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Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?

2008-06-12 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 12 June 2008 15:22:54 Chris Jones wrote:
  I've been using kmail for several years.  Tried evo and hated it - of
  course that was years ago, so it may be quite different now.  Tried
  Thunderbird, but there were too many things in kmail that I couldn't do
  in t'bird, so here I stay :-)

 I also used to use kmail a lot but eventually gave up on it due to its
 imap support not being that good (IMHO). Does it still force the user to
 choose when setting up an imap account between 'imap' and 'disconnected
 imap' ? Either you choose 'imap' where messages are only downloaded as
 they are needed, but you have no offline support, or 'disconnected
 imap', where they are available offlne, but kmail insists you download
 them *all*, not just as and when you read them. This always seemed an
 insane choice to me

 I now use thunderbird which has the best of both, offline support and
 download on demand...

 I hope kmail's imap support gets some attention in KDE4, if it does then
 I might go back ...

In 3.5.x online IMAP works well, and I really wouldn't want the amount of list 
traffic I read to be off-line IMAP, so that doesn't worry me.  It's true that 
there are some issues with off-line IMAP, particularly if you include 
addressbook and calendar etc..  Some people get it working perfectly, but 
many don't.

I, too, look forward to the new pim, but it may be next year before it 
arrives.

(I wonder if Daniel was using dimap when he complained of multiple copies of 
messages?  That's the reason I gave up, when I tested it.)

Anne



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Re: Problem with update of f7 for Network Manager.

2008-06-12 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 22:01 -0700, belyaev1967 wrote:
 Thank you for your message. You were the first who reported this problem.
 This is 100% bug. I have put back 0.6.6-1 version from
 ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/updates/7/x86_64/
 and everything worked fine to me. Actually this is terrible bug. I though
 thank my hardware crashed till I saw your posting!
 Alexander
I did the same thing you did and things started working. 
What really worried me was f7 is very close to being unsupported.
Dan Williams who is the head of the NM project is looking at my logs to
see if he can fix the problem. I will keep people posted when the
results are revealed.
 
 
 Aaron Konstam wrote:
  
  This morning I was send a message about updating NetworkManager. The
  following rpms were updated on my f7 system:
   NetworkManager-glib -0.6.6-2.fc7.i386
   NetworkManager-devel -0.6.6-2.fc7.i386
  NetworkManager -0.6.6-2.fc7.i386
   NetworkManager-gnome -0.6.6-2.fc7.i386
  
  after the update NM no longer works properly. The connection is made but
  instead of seeing the vertical blue bars the arrow keeps circling.
  
  Do others with f7 see the same thing. How can I downgrade to the earlier
  version? What can be done otherwise?
  
  Why are devel rpms being downloaded? My development repo is disabled.
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[Fedora8] SElinux bug

2008-06-12 Thread hicham
Hello
I had this morning a freeze, where I could not shutdown X server or
the laptop properly, looking at /var/log/messages:
I found what I suspect a selinux bug :

Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: SELinux:  out of range capability -555425744
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [ cut here ]
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: kernel BUG at security/selinux/hooks.c:1332!
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: invalid opcode:  [#1] SMP
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Modules linked in: iptable_nat xt_limit
xt_tcpudp iptable_mangle ipt_LOG ipt_MASQUERADE nf_nat xt_DSCP
ipt_REJE
CT nf_conntrack_irc nf_conntrack_ftp nf_conntrack_ipv4 xt_state
nf_conntrack iptable_filter ip_tables x_tables pppoatm pppoe pppox
ppp_synctty
 ppp_async ppp_generic slhc appletalk ipx p8023 ipv6 cpufreq_ondemand
acpi_cpufreq vfat fat dm_mirror dm_multipath dm_mod parport_pc
smsc_ircc
2 parport irda crc_ccitt pcspkr floppy serio_raw snd_intel8x0
snd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss video snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq output
snd_seq_device
 snd_intel8x0m fglrx(P)(U) snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm_oss ac97_bus tg3
snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm wmi snd_timer battery snd ac soundcore
snd_page_alloc
 button iTCO_wdt i2c_i801 i2c_core iTCO_vendor_support joydev speedtch
usbatm sr_mod cdrom atm sg pata_acpi ata_generic ata_piix libata
sd_mod
 scsi_mod ext3 jbd mbcache uhci_hcd ohci_hcd ehci_hcd [last unloaded: microcode]
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Pid: 2036, comm: X Tainted: P
(2.6.25.4-10.fc8 #1)
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: EIP: 0060:[c04cd270] EFLAGS: 00213246 CPU: 0
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: EIP is at task_has_capability+0x46/0x79
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: EAX: 0030 EBX: dee4e030 ECX:
c07195e4 EDX: 
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: ESI: df191740 EDI: df18deb0 EBP:
df18debc ESP: df18de6c
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS: 0033 SS: 0068
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Process X (pid: 2036, ti=df18d000
task=df16 task.ti=df18d000)
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Stack: c06d7792 dee4e030 df16
0003 df16 dee4e030  
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  
    
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: dee4e030 df16
df148000 df18decc c04cd2c2 df16 e0d000c0
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Call Trace:
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c04cd2c2] ? selinux_capable+0x1f/0x23
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c04c9685] ? security_capable+0xc/0xe
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c042c9ff] ? __capable+0xb/0x1f
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [e0bf5050] ?
firegl_cmmqs_CWDDE32+0x0/0x110 [fglrx]
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c042ca23] ? capable+0x10/0x12
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [e0bda477] ? firegl_ioctl+0xe7/0x220 [fglrx]
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c0439d7f] ? ktime_get_ts+0x45/0x49
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c0439d96] ? ktime_get+0x13/0x2f
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [e0bcfc66] ? ip_firegl_ioctl+0xe/0x10 [fglrx]
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c048acfa] ? vfs_ioctl+0x4e/0x67
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c048af75] ? do_vfs_ioctl+0x262/0x279
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c04d016e] ? selinux_file_ioctl+0xa8/0xab
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c048afcc] ? sys_ioctl+0x40/0x5c
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c0405b7a] ? syscall_call+0x7/0xb
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  ===
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Code: 05 00 00 89 d0 f3 ab 8b 4d b8 89
d8 b2 04 c1 f8 05 c6 45 bc 03 89 5d c4 89 4d c0 74 19 48 74 11 53 68
92 77 6d c0 e8 fd 9e f5 ff 0f 0b 58 5a eb fe ba 45 00 00 00 8b 46 08
83 e3 1f 0f b7 f2 8d
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: EIP: [c04cd270]
task_has_capability+0x46/0x79 SS:ESP 0068:df18de6c
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: ---[ end trace fd35f97fc34637fa ]---
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [fglrx:firegl_release] *ERROR* device busy: 1 0
Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [fglrx] release failed with code -EBUSY

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Re: Lost DNS lookup

2008-06-12 Thread McGuffey, David C.
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:48:12 +1000 David Timms [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote
 
 McGuffey, David C. wrote:
  A few days ago, a workstation in a lab stopped doing DNS lookups to
  support connectivity to SMTP, POP, and web services.  As I think
back,
  the behavior started in close proximity in time to a stunnel update.
 # uname -a
 # ifconfig
 # time route
 # ping localhost
 # ping 127.0.0.1
 # ping self ip from ifconfig
 # ping self hostname by name
 # ping another machine on this network.
 # ping next hop router {from route}
 # ping 66.249.89.99   {google}
 # cat /etc/resolv.conf
 # ping nameserver ip from resolv.conf
 # dig www.google.com.au
 # ping www.google.com.au
 
 Guessing you did all that, but maybe dropping the results would help
us
 work out what's up ?
 
I did some of that, but not all.  Will try to get back to the machine
today and do that.

BTW, I dropped an F8 loaded laptop onto the network, powered it up,
received the dhcp configuration and was able to get out through the
gateway.  So the problem is definitely associated with the F7 load on
the workstation.

Dave McGuffey
Principal Information System Security Engineer // NSA-IEM, NSA-IAM
SAIC, IISBU, Columbia, MD

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Re: match device files with LUN ID

2008-06-12 Thread Steve Searle
Around 03:30pm on Thursday, June 12, 2008 (UK time), Tom Spec scrawled:

 Does anyone know how I can correlate which device files (sda, sdb, sdc, etc) 
 match up with which LUNs in /proc/scsi/scsi?  I'm sure there is a command I 
 can use to give output like:
 
 devicefile1, scsi, channel, id, lun
 devicefile2, scsi, channel, id, lun
 devicefile3, scsi, channel, id, lun
 
 But I can't remember what it is.  Anyone?

Its not as slick as what you want, but you could do:

cdrecord -devices

followed by

cdrecord -scanbus

Steve

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Re: ssh connection problems

2008-06-12 Thread Steve Searle
Around 04:05am on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 (UK time), Danny Yee scrawled:

 Since upgrading to Fedora 9, my ssh connections from home are
 regularly freezing.
 
 I'm pretty sure this is not a Fedora/ssh bug but rather some kind of
 problem with my ADSL router and/or connection.  (It doesn't affect
 my box at work.)  But does anyone have any idea what changes from
 openssh 4.7 to 5.0 could be responsible?  I suspect it's going to be
 easier to fix this by tweaking ssh behaviour than by trying to fix
 the ADSL router/modem...

Is it the machine you are sshing into that has been upgraded?  If so,
check /etc/ssh/sshd_config and if necessary add:

ClientAliveInterval 30
ClientAliveCountMax 5

Steve

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RE: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?

2008-06-12 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Thursday 12 June 2008 15:22:54 Chris Jones wrote:
   I've been using kmail for several years.  Tried evo and 
 hated it - of
   course that was years ago, so it may be quite different 
 now.  Tried
   Thunderbird, but there were too many things in kmail that 
 I couldn't do
   in t'bird, so here I stay :-)
 
  I also used to use kmail a lot but eventually gave up on it 
 due to its
  imap support not being that good (IMHO). Does it still 
 force the user to
  choose when setting up an imap account between 'imap' and 
 'disconnected
  imap' ? Either you choose 'imap' where messages are only 
 downloaded as
  they are needed, but you have no offline support, or 'disconnected
  imap', where they are available offlne, but kmail insists 
 you download
  them *all*, not just as and when you read them. This always 
 seemed an
  insane choice to me
 
  I now use thunderbird which has the best of both, offline 
 support and
  download on demand...
 
  I hope kmail's imap support gets some attention in KDE4, if 
 it does then
  I might go back ...
 
 In 3.5.x online IMAP works well, and I really wouldn't want 
 the amount of list 
 traffic I read to be off-line IMAP, so that doesn't worry me. 
  It's true that 
 there are some issues with off-line IMAP, particularly if you include 
 addressbook and calendar etc..  Some people get it working 
 perfectly, but 
 many don't.
 
 I, too, look forward to the new pim, but it may be next year 
 before it 
 arrives.
 
 (I wonder if Daniel was using dimap when he complained of 
 multiple copies of 
 messages?  That's the reason I gave up, when I tested it.)

As I am writing from M$-Outlook, I found that Evo (and possibly
KMail), filled up my inbox folders expotentally with multiple
copies of multiple emails.  I had to shut down all email clients
on F8 to see if the problem stops.  So far, it has been quiet.

I noticed this behavior before, when running Evo (connector)
and Kmail(IMAP) but forgotten because I was using Outlook for
a long time due to circumstances, but once I went back to
working on F8 I needed to have email there as well and that is
when the SHTF.  Oh, my... that's right - that is why I dropped
Evo for Kmail for Thunderbird, none which worked well for me,
each having it's own particulars.

I think I'll try seakmonkey next, and see what it offers.

Dan

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Sound sys does work

2008-06-12 Thread ramachandranc1
I have installed fc7. nVidia nforce sound card is installed. Playback is not 
working.
Ramachandran

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Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?

2008-06-12 Thread Steve T
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 If I was dealing with Exchange server, I surely would be using Evolution
 and the Exchange connector.

 I have been using Exchange connector on and off for several years and it
has become better.
  However it is still very quirky and not ready for prime time.


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wine problem in fc8

2008-06-12 Thread don vogt
 I have had a wine setup working very nicely for
several months. Then I didn't work with it for aa
couple of weeks. Now when I click on the prigram
desktop icons, I get nothing. I opened a terminal and
changed directory to where the program resides and
issued wine progname
 I get a reply as follows
  preloader: Warning: failed to reserve range
-6000
preloader: Warning: failed to reserve range
-6000
wine: could not load LC:\\Program Files\\2nd Story
Software\\TaxACT 2007\\TaxAct07.exe: Invalid address

when looking around at error logs and such I saw
somewhere a statement to the effect that wine uses the
first part of memory for dos addresses.
 I don't know what could have happened. I looked in
yum.log and wine was updated in early april, but I
think it was working OK after that. I tried removing
wine and reinstalling, but get the same problem.
 One of the reasons I didn't use wine for a while was
that I was installing and playing with clamav. Is it
possible that clamav is protecting memory and won't
let wine reserve it? I am not running clamd (as far as
I can tell.)
 Any help would be appreciated. My next step will
probably be to remove all the wine stuff and all the
windows programs and stsrt over. With no idea what the
problem is I think I will probably end up right where
I am now
 Any help, comments, advice, etc? appreciated.

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Re: ssh connection problems

2008-06-12 Thread Luc MAIGNAN
I have the same problem, my client has been upgraded to F9 but the 
server is still in F8. Have I to modify as described ?


Steve Searle a écrit :

Around 04:05am on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 (UK time), Danny Yee scrawled:

  

Since upgrading to Fedora 9, my ssh connections from home are
regularly freezing.

I'm pretty sure this is not a Fedora/ssh bug but rather some kind of
problem with my ADSL router and/or connection.  (It doesn't affect
my box at work.)  But does anyone have any idea what changes from
openssh 4.7 to 5.0 could be responsible?  I suspect it's going to be
easier to fix this by tweaking ssh behaviour than by trying to fix
the ADSL router/modem...



Is it the machine you are sshing into that has been upgraded?  If so,
check /etc/ssh/sshd_config and if necessary add:

ClientAliveInterval 30
ClientAliveCountMax 5

Steve

  


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Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?

2008-06-12 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 12 June 2008 16:24:20 Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
  (I wonder if Daniel was using dimap when he complained of
  multiple copies of
  messages?  That's the reason I gave up, when I tested it.)

 As I am writing from M$-Outlook, I found that Evo (and possibly
 KMail), filled up my inbox folders expotentally with multiple
 copies of multiple emails.  I had to shut down all email clients
 on F8 to see if the problem stops.  So far, it has been quiet.

 I noticed this behavior before, when running Evo (connector)
 and Kmail(IMAP) but forgotten because I was using Outlook for
 a long time due to circumstances, but once I went back to
 working on F8 I needed to have email there as well and that is
 when the SHTF.  Oh, my... that's right - that is why I dropped
 Evo for Kmail for Thunderbird, none which worked well for me,
 each having it's own particulars.

 I think I'll try seakmonkey next, and see what it offers.

In all the years I've used kmail I've never seen this in plain IMAP.  I did 
see it in dimap, though.

Anne


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Re: How can we speed up rpm downloads?

2008-06-12 Thread Justin Conover
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:54 AM, drago01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Justin Conover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Guess I answered my own question earlier, I ran gzip on
 openopfice.org-core
  and it went from 84MB to 83MB.
 rpms are already compressed.

  Fairly loaded question, don't say get a better ISP, I have a very fast
  connection at home, and this d/l view was taken at work with an extremely
  fat pipe.  The problem is size of rpm's being downloaded.
 
  Debian seems to d/l much faster, not exact version but you can get some
 idea
  size wise.
 
  http://packages.debian.org/etch/openoffice.org-core
 
  wget
 
 http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-core_2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch5_amd64.deb
 
  There package is 34MB.
 
  This is an example of one of the larger apps out there I realize that, I
  just grabbed the last one to use as an example.  At 34MB it still takes
  time, but .deb is 50MB cheaper that the .rpm.

 you are comparing two different packages (2.0.4 and 2.4)

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Here 38MB, still close to 50MB cheaper.

http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-core_2.4.1-2_amd64.deb

http://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/openoffice.org-core/download
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Re: [Fedora8] SElinux bug

2008-06-12 Thread Stephen Smalley

On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 11:02 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
 hicham wrote:
  Hello
  I had this morning a freeze, where I could not shutdown X server or
  the laptop properly, looking at /var/log/messages:
  I found what I suspect a selinux bug :
  
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: SELinux:  out of range capability -555425744
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [ cut here ]
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: kernel BUG at security/selinux/hooks.c:1332!
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: invalid opcode:  [#1] SMP
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Modules linked in: iptable_nat xt_limit
  xt_tcpudp iptable_mangle ipt_LOG ipt_MASQUERADE nf_nat xt_DSCP
  ipt_REJE
  CT nf_conntrack_irc nf_conntrack_ftp nf_conntrack_ipv4 xt_state
  nf_conntrack iptable_filter ip_tables x_tables pppoatm pppoe pppox
  ppp_synctty
   ppp_async ppp_generic slhc appletalk ipx p8023 ipv6 cpufreq_ondemand
  acpi_cpufreq vfat fat dm_mirror dm_multipath dm_mod parport_pc
  smsc_ircc
  2 parport irda crc_ccitt pcspkr floppy serio_raw snd_intel8x0
  snd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss video snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq output
  snd_seq_device
   snd_intel8x0m fglrx(P)(U) snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm_oss ac97_bus tg3
  snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm wmi snd_timer battery snd ac soundcore
  snd_page_alloc
   button iTCO_wdt i2c_i801 i2c_core iTCO_vendor_support joydev speedtch
  usbatm sr_mod cdrom atm sg pata_acpi ata_generic ata_piix libata
  sd_mod
   scsi_mod ext3 jbd mbcache uhci_hcd ohci_hcd ehci_hcd [last unloaded: 
  microcode]
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Pid: 2036, comm: X Tainted: P
  (2.6.25.4-10.fc8 #1)
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: EIP: 0060:[c04cd270] EFLAGS: 00213246 CPU:   0
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: EIP is at task_has_capability+0x46/0x79
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: EAX: 0030 EBX: dee4e030 ECX:
  c07195e4 EDX: 
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: ESI: df191740 EDI: df18deb0 EBP:
  df18debc ESP: df18de6c
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS: 0033 SS: 0068
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Process X (pid: 2036, ti=df18d000
  task=df16 task.ti=df18d000)
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Stack: c06d7792 dee4e030 df16
  0003 df16 dee4e030  
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  
      
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: dee4e030 df16
  df148000 df18decc c04cd2c2 df16 e0d000c0
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Call Trace:
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c04cd2c2] ? selinux_capable+0x1f/0x23
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c04c9685] ? security_capable+0xc/0xe
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c042c9ff] ? __capable+0xb/0x1f
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [e0bf5050] ?
  firegl_cmmqs_CWDDE32+0x0/0x110 [fglrx]
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c042ca23] ? capable+0x10/0x12
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [e0bda477] ? firegl_ioctl+0xe7/0x220 
  [fglrx]
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c0439d7f] ? ktime_get_ts+0x45/0x49
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c0439d96] ? ktime_get+0x13/0x2f
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [e0bcfc66] ? ip_firegl_ioctl+0xe/0x10 
  [fglrx]
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c048acfa] ? vfs_ioctl+0x4e/0x67
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c048af75] ? do_vfs_ioctl+0x262/0x279
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c04d016e] ? selinux_file_ioctl+0xa8/0xab
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c048afcc] ? sys_ioctl+0x40/0x5c
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  [c0405b7a] ? syscall_call+0x7/0xb
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel:  ===
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: Code: 05 00 00 89 d0 f3 ab 8b 4d b8 89
  d8 b2 04 c1 f8 05 c6 45 bc 03 89 5d c4 89 4d c0 74 19 48 74 11 53 68
  92 77 6d c0 e8 fd 9e f5 ff 0f 0b 58 5a eb fe ba 45 00 00 00 8b 46 08
  83 e3 1f 0f b7 f2 8d
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: EIP: [c04cd270]
  task_has_capability+0x46/0x79 SS:ESP 0068:df18de6c
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: ---[ end trace fd35f97fc34637fa ]---
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [fglrx:firegl_release] *ERROR* device busy: 
  1 0
  Jun 12 12:19:00 laptop kernel: [fglrx] release failed with code -EBUSY
  
 Please open a bugzilla

It is a bug in the proprietary fglrx driver, not in SELinux.
SELinux is just the messenger here.

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Re: How can we speed up rpm downloads?

2008-06-12 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Justin Conover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there any current work on yum-presto, deltarpm or some other method of
 getting the downloads for updates to be smaller and quicker?  Can you
 compress rpm's to make the the downloads faster?


If you have multiple machines, would suggest you proxy it.

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Re: How can we speed up rpm downloads?

2008-06-12 Thread Nigel Henry
On Thursday 12 June 2008 17:42, Justin Conover wrote:
 Is there any current work on yum-presto, deltarpm or some other method of
 getting the downloads for updates to be smaller and quicker?  Can you
 compress rpm's to make the the downloads faster?

 Currently with yum presto there is only one site that I have found that has
 the deltarpms.

 https://fedorahosted.org/presto

 Currently now on a fresh install of F9  update

 Transaction Summary
 ===
== Install 14 Package(s)
 Update 185 Package(s)
 Remove   0 Package(s)

 Total download size: 475 M


 Half a gig is a lot
 (181/199): nautilus-2.22.3-1.fc9.x86_64.rpm  | 5.0 MB
 00:42
 (182/199): rhythmbox-0.11.5-12.fc9.x86_64.rpm| 5.3 MB
 00:42
 (183/199): gtk2-2.12.10-2.fc9.x86_64.rpm | 7.1 MB
 00:52
 (184/199): libpurple-2.4.2-1.fc9.x86_64.rpm  | 7.4 MB
 00:53
 (185/199): libgweather-2.22.2-1.fc9.x86_64.rpm   | 7.5 MB
 00:47
 (186/199): dasher-4.9.0-1.fc9.x86_64.rpm | 7.7 MB
 00:57
 (187/199): openoffice.org-calc-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.x86_64.rpm | 8.3 MB
 01:03
 (188/199): samba-client-3.2.0-1.rc1.15.fc9.x86_64.rpm| 9.6 MB
 01:43
 (189/199): gnome-applets-2.22.2-1.fc9.x86_64.rpm | 9.6 MB
 01:29
 (190/199): evolution-2.22.2-2.fc9.x86_64.rpm |  13 MB
 01:32
 (191/199): perl-5.10.0-22.fc9.x86_64.rpm |  14 MB
 02:12
 (192/199): gnome-user-docs-2.22.1-1.fc9.noarch.rpm   |  16 MB
 01:55
 (193/199): samba-common-3.2.0-1.rc1.15.fc9.x86_64.rpm|  16 MB
 01:53
 (194/199): kernel-2.6.25.4-30.fc9.x86_64.rpm |  18 MB
 02:14
 (195/199): gnome-games-2.22.2.1-1.fc9.x86_64.rpm |  19 MB
 02:30
 (196/199): java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9.x86_6 |  27 MB
 04:12
 (197/199): frysk-0.4-0.fc9.x86_64.rpm|  28 MB 03:29
 (198/199): evolution-help-2.22.2-2.fc9.x86_64.rpm|  46 MB 03:44

 (199/199): openoffice.org-core-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.x86_64.rpm |  84 MB 08:07

 Large rpm's are very time consuming to update and/or install.

 Guess I answered my own question earlier, I ran gzip on openopfice.org-core
 and it went from 84MB to 83MB.

 Fairly loaded question, don't say get a better ISP, I have a very fast
 connection at home, and this d/l view was taken at work with an extremely
 fat pipe.  The problem is size of rpm's being downloaded.

 Debian seems to d/l much faster, not exact version but you can get some
 idea size wise.

 http://packages.debian.org/etch/openoffice.org-core

 wget
 http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/o/openoffice.o
rg/openoffice.org-core_2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch5_amd64.deb

 There package is 34MB.

 This is an example of one of the larger apps out there I realize that, I
 just grabbed the last one to use as an example.  At 34MB it still takes
 time, but .deb is 50MB cheaper that the .rpm.

 Is deltarpm's the solution?  Has anyone talked to all the fedora mirrors to
 have a deltarpm repository?

I can appreciate your problem. My Fedora7 install had an update for Firefox 
(more than 21MB). If I DL Firefox from the Mozilla site (the tar.gz), it's 
only about 9MB. I removed Firefox from Fedora7, and installed the one I'd 
DL'd directly from the Mozilla site. In the case of Firefox, if you have a 
whole bunch of distros like me, you only have to DL the latest Firefox 
version once, and can then update all your distros, without wasting more 
Internet bandwidth.

That aside though, I'm on dialup, and you can well imagine how long big 
updates take. Most recently Debian Lenny, which I discovered I hadn't 
upgraded for nearly 2 months, had over 800MB of updates waiting, and Fedora 
8, which again hadn't been updated for a while, had over 500MB of updates 
waiting. Neither was a bunch of fun, but I've sort of got used to dialup, and 
pay a fixed fee each month for the service, so it's not like it costs me a 
small fortune, but just a lot of patience.

btw: I do also download .iso's for various distros. Kubuntu, and Archlinux 
arn't too bad, as both are only 1 CD's worth, but Fedora is a bunch of fun. 
I've downloaded FC3, 4, 5, and 7 on dialup (that's 4 or 5 CD iso's for each). 
Thankfully someone kindly sent me a set of CD iso's for FC6, and someone else 
sent me a DVD for Fedora 8, which I'm very gratefull for. I havn't gotten 
around to downloading Fedora 9 yet, which is thankfully available as a CD set 
from 1 site. I'll have to psych myself up first before going for Fedora 9. I 
might go for Kubuntu Hardy Heron first, as it also has the option of KDE4, 
and is contained on one CD .iso. I'd like to have a look at KDE4, but it 
seems to be receiving considerable flak, both on the Kubuntu, and Fedora 
list.

I do understand where you're coming from though, and cringe when I see that OO 
needs to be updated. Recently gimp-help was updated on one of my distros, 
which was more than 87MB, and I 

Re: Checking CPU temperature

2008-06-12 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All,

As I wrote here, I went to post a question about my problem in the
lm-sensors mailing list, and I was told that, in the case of my
motherboard, temp3 corresponds to the CPU temperature. Check the
detailed reply at

http://lists.lm-sensors.org/pipermail/lm-sensors/2008-June/023390.html

Paul

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Re: Firefox 3 beta on Fedora 9 uses lots of IO after start

2008-06-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 14:08 -0700, stan wrote:
 Brian C. Huffman wrote:
  I don't know for sure, but I think this must have been fixed by rc2 (based 
  on my current performance).  I couldn't live with the IO thrashing in b5.
 
  I just downloaded the binary from mozilla.org and installed it under 
  /usr/lib/firefox-3.0rc2 and changed the references in /usr/bin/firefox.  My 
  performance is *much* better now.
 
  Once they get an RPM out, I'll switch.  But for now, I'm able to actually 
  work.
 
  -b
 Thanks for letting me know that RC2 is fixed for this issue, sounds like 
 the way to go. 
 You're right about how inconvenient it is. :-)

I dl´ed the RC3 binary from mozilla.com and it does seem to work better.
Unfortunately it's a 32-bit binary so a lot of my plugins don't work. I
can't seem to find a 64-bit version anywhere. I seem to remember Mozilla
used to keep a larger set of binaries in ftp.mozilla.com, not all of
which appeared on the Web page, but now it's gone.

Anyone managed to obtain (or build) a 64-bit version of RC3?

poc

PS I don't understand why this isn't considered important enough to be
put in the updates repo.

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Re: How can we speed up rpm downloads?

2008-06-12 Thread Justin Conover
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Caolan McNamara [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 17:54 +0200, drago01 wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Justin Conover
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 34MB it still takes
   time, but .deb is 50MB cheaper that the .rpm.
 
  you are comparing two different packages (2.0.4 and 2.4)

 There's a few other problems with a direct comparison of sizes because
 they are two packages called core with somewhat differing content. The
 Debian core package depends on a common package which is an
 additional 27megs in size. The content of both of these is included in
 the single Fedora core rpm. Additionally the default help content is
 included in the Fedora core rpm, which is available in the deb
 packages as help-en_US, which is another additional 11 megs.

 Additionally displaying help itself requires the use of the core writer
 libraries to render the html help, in Debian this means that the
 writer package is a dependency of help, and that's an additional 6megs
 in size in its .deb. While in Fedora writer is split into the optional
 bits called writer and the core required for use by help. Shrinking
 the writer rpm by approx 3 megs, and inflating the core one by the
 same.

 To manually extract the various contents for side-by-side comparison you
 can use

 rpm2cpio something.rpm | cpio -ivd
 vs
 ar x something.rpm
 tar xzf data.tar.gz

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Ok, everyone in this thread is replying to OOO, that was not my intent.  If
you compare the speed of getting updates in debian and fedora, debian is
much faster.  Forget package size at this point.  Is it parallel downloads
maybe.

My main deal here is about the speed in which it takes to download all
updates and install.  I was merely trying to understand why debian seems to
be much faster.

I've been a loyal Fedora user since RH 6.2 or some were in there :) so I'm
not leaving, just trying to understand when i play with it once in awhile it
just handles downloads differently.
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Re: F9/64-bit on Mac Pro

2008-06-12 Thread Chris Stark

Chris Stark wrote:
I am trying to install F9 x86_64 on my new Mac Pro workstation (dual 
Intel Xeon quad-core + 4GB RAM), and it appears that none of the F9 
installer discs detect its USB hardware correctly.


When I boot using the DVD or LiveCD, everything proceeds as usual, but 
once I get to the media check screen, I cannot use my keyboard. From the 
LiveCD, neither the keyboard nor mouse work. I've tried swapping out 
different keyboards and mice, and even hot-plugging, but nothing worked. 
Also, the media works fine; I installed F9/64 on my work Dell from the 
same disc.


F9 32-bit works just fine on the Mac Pro, but naturally I cannot use my 
4GB of RAM w/ a 32-bit OS. Also, I managed to install Ubuntu 64-bit, and 
that worked without issue. While Ubuntu is currently working acceptably 
well, I really do prefer Fedora, so I really want to find a way to make 
it work.


Please let me know if there is any information I can provide, or if 
there are any tricks I can try with GRUB.


Quick update... I installed CentOS 5.1/64-bit last night. It too 
installed without issue. This really seems to be a Fedora-specific 
issue. I have filed a bugzilla report.


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Re: Ripping music CDs - program that is good with multiple optical drives

2008-06-12 Thread Marland V. Pittman

Marland V. Pittman wrote:

Hello Fedora Users I need some suggestions for ripping CDs.
I only got a short session in last night. My toddlers were clingy, and 
we had to make a run to the grocery.


I took three CDs... my Kanye West discs. I loaded up my Fedora Install, 
which was hosed up from an kmod-nvidia yum install for some reason... 
getting rid of that let me try a few installations. I had three drives 
in my box at the time. 64-bit Fedora with updates. Gnome Desktop. 
Default apps installed.


I tried Banshee, since it just went 1-dot-oh. Great experience. I'll 
probably go with it. (yum install banshee went well). It didn't find 
album info for one of the discs, and told me so.


Rythmbox seemed hard to find options for automatic ripping. I won't be 
selecting discs manually, that's for sure. Maybe Rythymbox was reduced 
in functionality because of SoundJuicer being installed along side it. 
SoundJuicer seems to be designed to do exactly one thing, which is cool, 
I guess. I can't remember it really working well on multiple discs though.


I yum installed grip, and it looked like I'd be able to do exactly what 
I wanted, but there were too many options. The script solutions I've 
been offered are similarly complex. I don't think I know enough about 
what I want to choose. I just want my discs digitized without hassle.


I didn't get around to trying any KDE apps like Amarok, but I was pretty 
impressed by Banshee. I'm not big on that whole Mono is Evil thing, 
and I'm glad there were packages for Fedora.


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Re: Firefox 3 beta on Fedora 9 uses lots of IO after start

2008-06-12 Thread Raymond C. Rodgers

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 14:08 -0700, stan wrote:
  

Brian C. Huffman wrote:


I don't know for sure, but I think this must have been fixed by rc2 (based on 
my current performance).  I couldn't live with the IO thrashing in b5.

I just downloaded the binary from mozilla.org and installed it under 
/usr/lib/firefox-3.0rc2 and changed the references in /usr/bin/firefox.  My 
performance is *much* better now.

Once they get an RPM out, I'll switch.  But for now, I'm able to actually work.

-b
  
Thanks for letting me know that RC2 is fixed for this issue, sounds like 
the way to go. 
You're right about how inconvenient it is. :-)



I dl´ed the RC3 binary from mozilla.com and it does seem to work better.
Unfortunately it's a 32-bit binary so a lot of my plugins don't work. I
can't seem to find a 64-bit version anywhere. I seem to remember Mozilla
used to keep a larger set of binaries in ftp.mozilla.com, not all of
which appeared on the Web page, but now it's gone.

Anyone managed to obtain (or build) a 64-bit version of RC3?

poc

PS I don't understand why this isn't considered important enough to be
put in the updates repo.

  
Not I but Mozilla has announced that Firefox 3 will be officially 
released on June 17th, so I imagine the Fedora 9 update won't be far behind.


Raymond

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Re: Sound sys does work

2008-06-12 Thread stan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have installed fc7. nVidia nforce sound card is installed. Playback 
is not working.

Ramachandran

That's a little concise for any assistance. :-)

Suppose you went to get your car worked on.  The mechanic asked you what 
was wrong and you said it is not working.  That tells him something so 
general that there is no way he can fix your car.
At least he has the car, so he can test it himself to see what is 
wrong.  We don't have your computer.  All we have is what you tell us.


Try   aplay -lL   in a terminal or console and see if your sound card is 
found.


If it is,

type   alsamixer   in a terminal or console and make sure that the sound 
has been turned up.  Alsa defaults to silence on start to protect your 
equipment and your ears.  You should be able to do this from a menu in 
your desktop as well.


tryaplay -v -Dplughw some.wav   and see if any sound occurs.

Go to this link,

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh

and download and run the script there.  It will scan your machine and put the 
output on a website.  It will give you a link that you can post back to the 
list so we can see the sound setup for your machine.


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Re: Firefox 3 beta on Fedora 9 uses lots of IO after start

2008-06-12 Thread Reid Rivenburgh
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I dl´ed the RC3 binary from mozilla.com and it does seem to work better.
 Unfortunately it's a 32-bit binary so a lot of my plugins don't work. I
 can't seem to find a 64-bit version anywhere. I seem to remember Mozilla
 used to keep a larger set of binaries in ftp.mozilla.com, not all of
 which appeared on the Web page, but now it's gone.

 Anyone managed to obtain (or build) a 64-bit version of RC3?

I think you want the x86_64 bit version here:

ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla1.9.0/

It's called a nightly, but I bet it's exactly the same as RC3.

reid

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Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?

2008-06-12 Thread Robin Laing

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Thursday 12 June 2008 15:22:54 Chris Jones wrote:

each having it's own particulars.

I think I'll try seakmonkey next, and see what it offers.

Dan



Don't be surprised if it is the same as Thunderbird for you.  My wife 
runs it and I don't see any differences.  Next upgrade I am moving her 
to TB and FF.



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Re: Firefox 3 beta on Fedora 9 uses lots of IO after start

2008-06-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 14:42 -0400, Raymond C. Rodgers wrote:
 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 14:08 -0700, stan wrote:

  Brian C. Huffman wrote:
  
  I don't know for sure, but I think this must have been fixed by rc2 
  (based on my current performance).  I couldn't live with the IO thrashing 
  in b5.
 
  I just downloaded the binary from mozilla.org and installed it under 
  /usr/lib/firefox-3.0rc2 and changed the references in /usr/bin/firefox.  
  My performance is *much* better now.
 
  Once they get an RPM out, I'll switch.  But for now, I'm able to actually 
  work.
 
  -b

  Thanks for letting me know that RC2 is fixed for this issue, sounds like 
  the way to go. 
  You're right about how inconvenient it is. :-)
  
 
  I dl´ed the RC3 binary from mozilla.com and it does seem to work better.
  Unfortunately it's a 32-bit binary so a lot of my plugins don't work. I
  can't seem to find a 64-bit version anywhere. I seem to remember Mozilla
  used to keep a larger set of binaries in ftp.mozilla.com, not all of
  which appeared on the Web page, but now it's gone.
 
  Anyone managed to obtain (or build) a 64-bit version of RC3?
 
  poc
 
  PS I don't understand why this isn't considered important enough to be
  put in the updates repo.
 

 Not I but Mozilla has announced that Firefox 3 will be officially 
 released on June 17th, so I imagine the Fedora 9 update won't be far behind.

Yes, just saw that. Fingers crossed.

poc

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Re: Firefox 3 beta on Fedora 9 uses lots of IO after start

2008-06-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 13:00 -0600, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I dl´ed the RC3 binary from mozilla.com and it does seem to work better.
  Unfortunately it's a 32-bit binary so a lot of my plugins don't work. I
  can't seem to find a 64-bit version anywhere. I seem to remember Mozilla
  used to keep a larger set of binaries in ftp.mozilla.com, not all of
  which appeared on the Web page, but now it's gone.
 
  Anyone managed to obtain (or build) a 64-bit version of RC3?
 
 I think you want the x86_64 bit version here:
 
 ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla1.9.0/
 
 It's called a nightly, but I bet it's exactly the same as RC3.

Thanks Reid, I'll check it out.

poc

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Re: Ripping music CDs - program that is good with multiple optical drives

2008-06-12 Thread max bianco
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Marland V. Pittman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Marland V. Pittman wrote:

 Hello Fedora Users I need some suggestions for ripping CDs.

 I only got a short session in last night. My toddlers were clingy, and we
 had to make a run to the grocery.

 I took three CDs... my Kanye West discs. I loaded up my Fedora Install,
 which was hosed up from an kmod-nvidia yum install for some reason...
 getting rid of that let me try a few installations. I had three drives in my
 box at the time. 64-bit Fedora with updates. Gnome Desktop. Default apps
 installed.

 I tried Banshee, since it just went 1-dot-oh. Great experience. I'll
 probably go with it. (yum install banshee went well). It didn't find album
 info for one of the discs, and told me so.

 Rythmbox seemed hard to find options for automatic ripping. I won't be
 selecting discs manually, that's for sure. Maybe Rythymbox was reduced in
 functionality because of SoundJuicer being installed along side it.
 SoundJuicer seems to be designed to do exactly one thing, which is cool, I
 guess. I can't remember it really working well on multiple discs though.

 As i inserted disks they showed up on the left then a right click and
left click on copy to library and the disk was queued up. The second
disk showed up separately and under the first, followed the same
procedure and it gets queued up to rip after the first. Though I have
not looked for an autorip option since its not much work to select
them myself and who's going to change disks if I am not there? I also
have not seen it alert when done but again i am sitting there and
personally I am in no particular hurry. I have days of music already
on board and i haven't shuffled through all of it yet. Come to think
of it KAudio has an option for autorip and IIRC you can set it so it
only rips on successful retrieval of the tags. and it will tell you
when done and if it fails to retrieve tag info. Have you tried it?

 I yum installed grip, and it looked like I'd be able to do exactly what I
 wanted, but there were too many options. The script solutions I've been
 offered are similarly complex. I don't think I know enough about what I want
 to choose. I just want my discs digitized without hassle.

 I didn't get around to trying any KDE apps like Amarok, but I was pretty
 impressed by Banshee. I'm not big on that whole Mono is Evil thing, and
 I'm glad there were packages for Fedora.


You can run KDE apps under gnome so don't let the lack of KDE desktop stop you.





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tr problem

2008-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
Hi folks;

I'm trying to convert a test file, src code for a legacy computer, whose eol is 
a single cr into one with a newline subbed for each cr, and tr is being a pita, 
it broken, or there is PEBKAC.

If I use this syntax:

tr -c \r \n filename  filename2

Then the whole file is converted to nn's, every byte.

The manpage (and pinfo tr too) is, shall we say, completely lacking in how to 
handle the file I/O.

So how do you use tr?

Or is there a better tool for this than tr?

Thanks.

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Re: yum update sorts by file size before downloading

2008-06-12 Thread Kevin J. Cummings

Don Russell wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Don Russell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The last few times I've used yum update, I noticed the files are
downloaded in order, smallest first.

Is that deliberate, or just a coincidence?

If it is deliberate, I'd like to suggest sorting in the other
direction so largest is downloaded first.

That way, while I'm waiting for it, I can always tell that the
next file will be the same size or smaller than the one just
completed, so I can better estimate how long it will be.

Also, perception-wise, it gives the *appearance* that the process is
speeding up instead of slowing down. :-)

And, after all down loads are complete... a little summary of the
average transfer rate would be nice.

I like the new scale showing total % and individual file %...


I filed a bug/enhancement, which was closed as won't fix
Ref: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451047

I guess the explanation there confirms I'm not normal. :-)



My guess would be that a bunch of people would start trying to download 
the largest files causing the most contention for the longest time, 
whereas the smaller files copy quickly helping to spread out the demand 
across various files.  Not sure it that helps or hurts disk caches at 
the other end.  B^)


Why can't they make it configurable now that they've bothered to add it 
at all?  Then they can default it to the current state


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Re: tr problem

2008-06-12 Thread Les Mikesell

Gene Heskett wrote:


I'm trying to convert a test file, src code for a legacy computer, whose eol is 
a single cr into one with a newline subbed for each cr, and tr is being a pita, 
it broken, or there is PEBKAC.


If I use this syntax:

tr -c \r \n filename  filename2

Then the whole file is converted to nn's, every byte.

The manpage (and pinfo tr too) is, shall we say, completely lacking in how to 
handle the file I/O.


So how do you use tr?

Or is there a better tool for this than tr?



The tr syntax would be
tr -d '\r'
but for one or a few files you can just load in vi (vim) and
:set fileformat=unix
and write it back out.

Plus, you probably have a program called dos2unix installed...

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[F9] Openoffice + java

2008-06-12 Thread MKas
Why I can't uninstall java-1.5.0 through yum without uninstalling openoffice? 
(I have downloaded java-1.6.0 so I don't need java-1.5.0 anymore)


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Re: wine problem in fc8

2008-06-12 Thread don vogt
I found the solution to my problem at Wine
headquarters. Ther is an open bugzilla on it. Sorry to
bother you all.

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Re: tr problem

2008-06-12 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

Gene Heskett wrote:

Hi folks;

I'm trying to convert a test file, src code for a legacy computer, whose eol is 
a single cr into one with a newline subbed for each cr, and tr is being a pita, 
it broken, or there is PEBKAC.


If I use this syntax:

tr -c \r \n filename  filename2

Then the whole file is converted to nn's, every byte.

The manpage (and pinfo tr too) is, shall we say, completely lacking in how to 
handle the file I/O.


So how do you use tr?

Or is there a better tool for this than tr?

Thanks.

When the man page says that the -c option causes tr to first 
complement SET1, another way to say it is that using -c will cause a 
matche to everything but SET1.


The reason file I/O in not covered is that tr is normally a filter, 
so you would use in a pipe between two other programs. It takes what 
comes in from stdin, does its thing, and sends it to stdout. This is 
common among filter programs. Another thing common among filter 
programs is that they will not have any opening message, and will 
send errors to stderr.


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Re: smartrpm

2008-06-12 Thread Todd Zullinger
Kam Leo wrote:
 Don't bother. Multiple bug reports have already been filed. I'm
 surprised that this problem keeps re-occurring. Same thing happened
 for the Fedora 8 release. Axel must have his hands full.

The package ACLs appear to allow cvsextras members to commit.  Any
guess why some other maintainer who uses smart just fix it?  I've
never used smart at all, else I'd consider doing it myself.

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Re: Google Earth and nVidia [partly solved...]

2008-06-12 Thread Matthew Saltzman

On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 17:52 -0700, Lonni J Friedman wrote:
 Your nvidia driver installation is broken.  If you're using Livna's
 RPMs, then talk to them.

OK so part of the problem was that I had files from the nVidia installer
lying around from before there were Livna RPMs available for that 169.04
version.  My card didn't work with any older versions, so I used the
install script when it came out, because I didn't have a fully
functional machine without those drivers.  That's an object lesson in
why it's not a good idea to mix the script installer and RPMs.  I think
I have that cleaned up now (though it's hard to tell for sure without a
manifest of all the files installed by the script).

But when I start the new googleearth as a normal user, I still don't see
the globe or the controls.  It works fine if I start it as root.  The
SEtroublesooter doesn't complain, either.

Any idea what's up with that?

Thanks.

 
 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Matthew Saltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I just tried the latest GoogleEarth 4.3.7204.0836 (beta) with the latest
  kernel and nVidia drivers, and the result was:
 
 $ googleearth
 Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version
 173.14.05,
 but this NVIDIA driver component has version 169.04.  Please
 make
 sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components
 have the same version.
 NVIDIA: Direct rendering failed; attempting indirect rendering.
 
  And the screen opens, but no earth or controls show.
 
  Anybody have any idea what's up with that?  TIA.
 
 $ rpm -q kernel
 kernel-2.6.24.7-92.fc8.x86_64
 kernel-2.6.25.4-10.fc8.x86_64
 $ rpm -qa \*nvidia\*
 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-173.14.05-1.lvn8.x86_64
 kmod-nvidia-173.14.05-2.lvn8.x86_64
 kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.4-10.fc8-173.14.05-2.lvn8.x86_64
 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173.14.05-1.lvn8.x86_64
 kmod-nvidia-2.6.24.7-92.fc8-173.14.05-1.lvn8.x86_64
 
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Re: tr problem

2008-06-12 Thread Rick Stevens

Les Mikesell wrote:

Les Mikesell wrote:

Gene Heskett wrote:


I'm trying to convert a test file, src code for a legacy computer, 
whose eol is a single cr into one with a newline subbed for each cr, 
and tr is being a pita, it broken, or there is PEBKAC.


If I use this syntax:

tr -c \r \n filename  filename2

Then the whole file is converted to nn's, every byte.

The manpage (and pinfo tr too) is, shall we say, completely lacking 
in how to handle the file I/O.


So how do you use tr?

Or is there a better tool for this than tr?



The tr syntax would be
tr -d '\r'
but for one or a few files you can just load in vi (vim) and
:set fileformat=unix
and write it back out.

Plus, you probably have a program called dos2unix installed...


Oops, I should have read past the word 'legacy' which must not have 
meant what I thought.

tr '\r' '\n'
should work.


More like:

cat input-filename | tr '\r' '\n' output-filename

Not so?  tr is a filter.
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F9 - repositories messed up, can't find Opera ?

2008-06-12 Thread linuxguy
I would like to install the Opera browser to test.  I normally install
things via yum, so I

# yum list opera*
Loaded plugins: priorities, refresh-packagekit
Error: No matching Packages to list

Then I fired up synaptic and found that I only see packages that I
already have installed.  I don't see to see all the packages that should
be available for F9.

What repositories could/should I be using with F9 ?

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Re: tr problem

2008-06-12 Thread Les Mikesell

Rick Stevens wrote:




The manpage (and pinfo tr too) is, shall we say, completely lacking 
in how to handle the file I/O.



Plus, you probably have a program called dos2unix installed...


Oops, I should have read past the word 'legacy' which must not have 
meant what I thought.

tr '\r' '\n'
should work.


More like:

cat input-filename | tr '\r' '\n' output-filename

Not so?  tr is a filter.


It reads stdin and writes stdout, like most unix command line programs. 
 The shell will connect those to whatever you want with |'s or 
's.  Using cat with a pipe is a waste of a process, though.  tr can 
read it's own input just as well with input-filename.


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Freshclam down?

2008-06-12 Thread Daniel B. Thurman

Seems that I am not able to update my AntiVirus
database.  Is the site(s) down?

Mine is trying to update from: db.US.clamav.net

Dan

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Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?

2008-06-12 Thread Daniel B. Thurman

Robin Laing wrote:


Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Thursday 12 June 2008 15:22:54 Chris Jones wrote:
 each having it's own particulars.

 I think I'll try seakmonkey next, and see what it offers.

 Dan


Don't be surprised if it is the same as Thunderbird for you.  My wife
runs it and I don't see any differences.  Next upgrade I am moving her
to TB and FF.



Yeah, TB  SM does have similar lookfeel.  Too bad that
their Import/Export Address tool isn't keen, but I managed.

One thing about TBSM, these are not causing looping
messages into the Inboxes.  Seems to be a problem with
either/or/both Evo  KMail.

I was informed my my ISP that they were having problems
at their end and this may explain dropped Email connections.

Looks like I have to hammer my ISP and my Phone-line
carrier to clean up their act.  It will be tough going for sure,
like they care :/

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Re: tr problem

2008-06-12 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 12Jun2008 16:35, Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I'm trying to convert a test file, src code for a legacy computer, whose eol 
is 
| a single cr into one with a newline subbed for each cr, and tr is being a 
pita, 
| it broken, or there is PEBKAC.
| 
| If I use this syntax:
| 
| tr -c \r \n filename  filename2
| 
| Then the whole file is converted to nn's, every byte.

That's because \ is a shell quoting character. You need to quote it:-)

  tr -c '\r' '\n' filename filename2

Then tr will see the \ character.

| The manpage (and pinfo tr too) is, shall we say, completely lacking in how to 
| handle the file I/O.

As Les has mentioned, tr is a filter (like almost every UNIX command in
its bare form), so what you wrote is exactly right, except for the
quotes.

| Or is there a better tool for this than tr?

No, tr is the best thing for this particular purpose.

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Re: Firefox 3 beta on Fedora 9 uses lots of IO after start

2008-06-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 23:03 +0100, Colin J Thomson wrote:
 On Thursday 12 June 2008 20:21:18 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 13:00 -0600, Reid Rivenburgh wrote:
   On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I dl´ed the RC3 binary from mozilla.com and it does seem to work
better. Unfortunately it's a 32-bit binary so a lot of my plugins don't
work. I can't seem to find a 64-bit version anywhere. I seem to
remember Mozilla used to keep a larger set of binaries in
ftp.mozilla.com, not all of which appeared on the Web page, but now
it's gone.
   
Anyone managed to obtain (or build) a 64-bit version of RC3?
  
   I think you want the x86_64 bit version here:
  
   ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla1.9.0/
  
   It's called a nightly, but I bet it's exactly the same as RC3.
 
  Thanks Reid, I'll check it out.
 
 You may also want to check out SwiftFox, available for many processor types:
 
 http://getswiftfox.com/index.htm
 
 The installer works well on this F9 box.

The web page doesn't make clear just why one would want to do that,
beyond implying they compiled with some optimizations. The phrase
attempts to use existing Firefox plugins is also a bit off-putting.
Does this mean it will use the same ones FF3 uses (i.e. not all of them)
or are there further problems? I think I'll pass for now.

poc

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Re: tr problem

2008-06-12 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 12Jun2008 19:47, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 18:53 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
|  It reads stdin and writes stdout, like most unix command line programs. 
|The shell will connect those to whatever you want with |'s or 
|  's.  Using cat with a pipe is a waste of a process, though.  tr can 
|  read it's own input just as well with input-filename.
| 
| Quite true, but I remember a remark in one of the classic Unix papers to
| the effect that people somehow found the 'cat foo | ' syntax more
| natural.

There's plenty of stuff that's more natural that shouldn't be done.
I'd start with snoring and progress from there...
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Re: F9 - repositories messed up, can't find Opera ?

2008-06-12 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 16:59 -0600, linuxguy wrote:
 I would like to install the Opera browser to test.  I normally install
 things via yum, so 

You have to get it directly from their website, and either do that
yourself for each update, or let it check for updates itself when you
use it.

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Re: Switching virtual terminals

2008-06-12 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 19:37 -0400, Jim Dever wrote:
 With my physical disabilities it's just easier to use the 
 right one.  And Right-CTRL-ALT-Fx does take you to the virtual
 terminal from X.  It just doesn't do anything once you're in text
 mode.

Then you want to ask about making the right ALT key do the same job as
the left ALT key in the text consoles.  Change the subject line, then
someone who knows how to do that might see it and give you an answer.

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Re: hard drive install FC6 failed

2008-06-12 Thread RyanYee/叶晔
1.my pc install with WinXp , and I want install FC6 in same harddisk.I don't
understand what's you have said


 Aa Far As I Know none of the nixes refer to drives by letters like e: that
 is a windows convention.

 2.grub has boot vmlinuz with initrd.img successful,so no problem with grub
configure.I think problem is FC6 installer cannot find harddisk even than
iso file.and if it can find harddisk ,it can sure find the directory ,it's
not a question.


 Probably because of the way you refer to the file and where it is stored.
 Maybe you need a separate FAT or FAT32 partition to store the ISO or even
 better something formatted with ext3 or other nix filesystem, others can
 probably explain it better but I would say that is your problem.


  Never mind what I said. I should have gone back and reread the thread
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Re: tr problem

2008-06-12 Thread Les Mikesell

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

The manpage (and pinfo tr too) is, shall we say, completely lacking 

in how to handle the file I/O.


Plus, you probably have a program called dos2unix installed...
Oops, I should have read past the word 'legacy' which must not have 
meant what I thought.

tr '\r' '\n'
should work.

More like:

cat input-filename | tr '\r' '\n' output-filename

Not so?  tr is a filter.
It reads stdin and writes stdout, like most unix command line programs. 
  The shell will connect those to whatever you want with |'s or 
's.  Using cat with a pipe is a waste of a process, though.  tr can 
read it's own input just as well with input-filename.


Quite true, but I remember a remark in one of the classic Unix papers to
the effect that people somehow found the 'cat foo | ' syntax more
natural.


I suppose you get used to using cat when there are multiple input files 
that you want to combine.


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Foreign Language Playback In Totem

2008-06-12 Thread Jeffrey D. Yuille
Hello, 

 I recently reinstalled Fedora 9 on a Dell Dimension Desktop.  I
noticed that whenever I play movie DVD's in Totem, they are being played
back in a foreign language (French or Spanish)instead of the default
language (US English). Has anyone else had this problem?  And if so, I
do I correct it? Any help would be greatly appreciated. 

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Re: Switching virtual terminals

2008-06-12 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

Tim wrote:

On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 19:37 -0400, Jim Dever wrote:
With my physical disabilities it's just easier to use the 
right one.  And Right-CTRL-ALT-Fx does take you to the virtual

terminal from X.  It just doesn't do anything once you're in text
mode.


Then you want to ask about making the right ALT key do the same job as
the left ALT key in the text consoles.  Change the subject line, then
someone who knows how to do that might see it and give you an answer.

This may be of interest. It covers a lot more then just remapping 
the right Alt key.


http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/187

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Re: F9 - repositories messed up, can't find Opera ?

2008-06-12 Thread Clint Dilks



linuxguy wrote:

On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 10:02 +0930, Tim wrote:
  

You have to get it directly from their website, and either do that
yourself for each update, or let it check for updates itself when you
use it.



Thanks for the info.

I did.  Opera 9.5 is simply outstanding.  The first Linux browser that
handles youtube perfectly.

So why isn't Opera part of the Fedora repository ?   Even the version
that I installed was labeled for F8/KDE3.


  


Fedora has strict policy relating to applications that can be included 
because of Licensing.


See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/LicensingGuidelines

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Re: tr problem

2008-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 12 June 2008, Les Mikesell wrote:
Gene Heskett wrote:
 I'm trying to convert a test file, src code for a legacy computer, whose
 eol is a single cr into one with a newline subbed for each cr, and tr is
 being a pita, it broken, or there is PEBKAC.

 If I use this syntax:

 tr -c \r \n filename  filename2

 Then the whole file is converted to nn's, every byte.

 The manpage (and pinfo tr too) is, shall we say, completely lacking in how
 to handle the file I/O.

 So how do you use tr?

 Or is there a better tool for this than tr?

The tr syntax would be
tr -d '\r'
but for one or a few files you can just load in vi (vim) and

:set fileformat=unix

And that might be something that is not in the vim manpages Mike, thanks.

and write it back out.

Plus, you probably have a program called dos2unix installed...

That is the other option  with my CRS, I couldn't remember that name with a 
$1000 bill being offered.  I'm seemingly being reminded that memory is the 
second thing to go. :)

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Re: tr problem

2008-06-12 Thread Mike Bird
On Thu June 12 2008 20:42:51 Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Thursday 12 June 2008, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 Why option -c?

 Cuz the manpage says that it triggers the character convert thing?

My manpage says -c is for complementing the first set.  Could you
please show us the relevant excerpt from your buggy manpage?

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Re: tr problem

2008-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 12 June 2008, Mike Bird wrote:
On Thu June 12 2008 20:42:51 Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Thursday 12 June 2008, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 Why option -c?

 Cuz the manpage says that it triggers the character convert thing?

My manpage says -c is for complementing the first set.  Could you
please show us the relevant excerpt from your buggy manpage?

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PEBKAC, Mike.  Can't read plain english it would appear.  Memory, 2nd thing to 
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Re: Download manager hangs

2008-06-12 Thread Kam Leo
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:04 PM, John Selmys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello

   Twice tonight I tried to download the F9 ISO. First the DVD, then the live
 CD. In both cases the download manager hung up at the very end. I had no
 option but to cancel the download. The DVD download wasted 5 hours and the
 CD download wasted another hour. I'm already using F9 on an AMD X2. I
 downloaded F9 ISO when my system was running F8. I upgraded to F9 and then
 gave away my DVD/CD. Now I wanted to get new copies for myself. I do my
 downloads with Seamonkey. It seems like the last chunk of the ISO just can't
 be delivered. I guess I'll have to use bittorrent or perhaps command-line
 ftp. I wonder if Seamonkey's download manager is broken?

 John

If a torrent is too slow for you or a firewall is in the way try using
wget from the command line. wget -c full-url-path-to-file will
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Re: F9 - repositories messed up, can't find Opera ?

2008-06-12 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 21:11 -0600, linuxguy wrote:
 Opera 9.5 is simply outstanding.  The first Linux browser that
 handles youtube perfectly.

Hmm, until today I've never been able to get Opera to work with youtube,
as it wouldn't support anything to do with Flash.  Nice to see that's
been sorted out.

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Re: Google Earth and nVidia [partly solved...]

2008-06-12 Thread Les
Just a guess here, but check where google earth is installed and in the
temp directory to see if any files were created as root.  Temp or rc or
init files being set to root will often keep user applications from
starting in linux and unix systems (one more reason using root to run
applications is not a good idea.)

Regards,
Les H
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 18:36 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
 
 On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 17:52 -0700, Lonni J Friedman wrote:
  Your nvidia driver installation is broken.  If you're using Livna's
  RPMs, then talk to them.
 
 OK so part of the problem was that I had files from the nVidia
 installer
 lying around from before there were Livna RPMs available for that
 169.04
 version.  My card didn't work with any older versions, so I used the
 install script when it came out, because I didn't have a fully
 functional machine without those drivers.  That's an object lesson in
 why it's not a good idea to mix the script installer and RPMs.  I
 think
 I have that cleaned up now (though it's hard to tell for sure without
 a
 manifest of all the files installed by the script).
 
 But when I start the new googleearth as a normal user, I still don't
 see
 the globe or the controls.  It works fine if I start it as root.  The
 SEtroublesooter doesn't complain, either.
 
 Any idea what's up with that?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Matthew Saltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   I just tried the latest GoogleEarth 4.3.7204.0836 (beta) with the
 latest
   kernel and nVidia drivers, and the result was:
  
  $ googleearth
  Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version
  173.14.05,
  but this NVIDIA driver component has version 169.04.
 Please
  make
  sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver
 components
  have the same version.
  NVIDIA: Direct rendering failed; attempting indirect
 rendering.
  
   And the screen opens, but no earth or controls show.
  
   Anybody have any idea what's up with that?  TIA.
  
  $ rpm -q kernel
  kernel-2.6.24.7-92.fc8.x86_64
  kernel-2.6.25.4-10.fc8.x86_64
  $ rpm -qa \*nvidia\*
  xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-173.14.05-1.lvn8.x86_64
  kmod-nvidia-173.14.05-2.lvn8.x86_64
  kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.4-10.fc8-173.14.05-2.lvn8.x86_64
  xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173.14.05-1.lvn8.x86_64
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Re: tr problem

2008-06-12 Thread Les Mikesell

Gene Heskett wrote:




I'm trying to convert a test file, src code for a legacy computer, whose
eol is a single cr into one with a newline subbed for each cr, and tr is
being a pita, it broken, or there is PEBKAC.

If I use this syntax:

tr -c \r \n filename  filename2

Then the whole file is converted to nn's, every byte.

The manpage (and pinfo tr too) is, shall we say, completely lacking in how
to handle the file I/O.

So how do you use tr?

Why option -c?

tr '\r' '\n' filename  filename2
would do it.


Cuz the manpage says that it triggers the character convert thing?


No, tr actually takes 2 'sets' of characters even though in your use you 
only need one character in each set. For example

tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'
would lowercase a file (and the brackets and quotes aren't strictly 
necessary but would be on a sysV version).
The -c option means to complement the first set (i.e. it becomes the 
characters not included).


It doesn't touch on its performance if the option isn't given.  And it doesn't 
mention using the quotes either, but it worked just fine, thank you very much.


Man pages generally never mention the things the shell does to a command 
line before starting the program.  This will include expanding variables 
and wildcard filenames, redirecting I/O, and other things triggered by 
shell metacharacters.  In this case tr doesn't particularly need the 
quotes, but if you don't use them the shell will parse and remove the \ 
characters (treating them as quotes for the following character in its 
own parsing).  These details are the same for every command you type (or 
script) and not repeated in every man page.


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Re: smartrpm

2008-06-12 Thread Todd Zullinger
Kam Leo wrote:
 The bug fix is trivial. The problem is that the fixed package,
 supposedly supplied on 21 May, has gone AWOL.

Yeah, that's weird.  I poked the release engineering folks[1] in irc
and hopefully the update will return from the ether soon.

[1] Okay, just one actually.  But Luke was looking into it and I'm
sure he'll get it fixed up.

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Re: javac on Fedora 9, how do I get it?

2008-06-12 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Thu, 6/12/08, Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: javac on Fedora 9, how do I get it?
 To: fedora-list@redhat.com
 Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 9:46 PM
 Dear all,
 
 I cannot find how to get javac on Fedora 9,
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum list java*
 Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
 Installed Packages
 java-1.5.0-gcj.x86_641.5.0.0-21.fc9
 installed   
 java-1.6.0-openjdk.x86_64   
 1:1.6.0.0-0.12.b09.fc9 installed   
 java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin.x86_64
 1:1.6.0.0-0.12.b09.fc9 installed   
 java_cup.x86_64  1:0.10-0.k.6jpp.2 
 installed   
 javacc-manual.x86_64 4.0-4jpp.4
 installed   
 Available Packages
 java-1.5.0-gcj-devel.x86_64  1.5.0.0-21.fc9
 fedora  
 java-1.5.0-gcj-javadoc.x86_641.5.0.0-21.fc9
 fedora  
 java-1.5.0-gcj-src.x86_641.5.0.0-21.fc9
 fedora  
 java-1.6.0-openjdk.i386 
 1:1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9 updates 
 java-1.6.0-openjdk.x86_64   
 1:1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9 updates 
 java-1.6.0-openjdk-demo.x86_64  
 1:1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9 updates 
 java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel.i386   
 1:1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9 updates 
 java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel.x86_64 
 1:1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9 updates 
 java-1.6.0-openjdk-javadoc.x86_64   
 1:1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9 updates 
 java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin.x86_64
 1:1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9 updates 
 java-1.6.0-openjdk-src.x86_64   
 1:1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9 updates 
 java_cup-javadoc.x86_64  1:0.10-0.k.6jpp.2 
 fedora  
 java_cup-manual.x86_64   1:0.10-0.k.6jpp.2 
 fedora  
 javacc.x86_644.0-4jpp.4
 fedora  
 javacc-demo.x86_64   4.0-4jpp.4
 fedora  
 javasqlite.x86_6420080401-2.fc9
 fedora  
 javasqlite-javadoc.x86_6420080401-2.fc9
 fedora  
 javastroke.x86_640.5.1-17.fc9  
 fedora  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# 
 
 
 I installed javacc, 
 javacc.x86_644.0-4jpp.4
 
 
 but it did not work :( so I yum removed it.  I just want to
 touch the basis on java.  I cannot compile some basic java
 programs

Here I will fix what I said.

 
 The interest program
 
 http://math.hws.edu/javanotes/source/Interest.java
 
(In Fedora 8)  I compiled the TextIO.java first 
 
 http://math.hws.edu/javanotes/source/TextIO.java
 
 $ javac TextIO.java
 and then I could do the same for the other program
 $ javac Interest.java

But in Fedora 9, javac is not found and I tried downloading javacc, which did 
not do the same thing. :(
 
 $ javacc is not the same as javac 
 
 On Fedora 8, but the machine does not work anymore and now
 I am on Fedora 9 on another machine and I want for it to
 work.  How can I achieve the same functionality on Fedora
 9?
 
 TIA,
 
 Antonio 
 
 
   
 
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At the moment I am yum installing

Installing:
 java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel  x86_64 1:1.6.0.0-0.13.b09.fc9  updates   
8.9 M

after deducing from the page
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JavaFAQ

I hope that I did the right thing.

Regards,

Antonio 


  

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[Fedora-livecd-list] OpenGL with nVIDIA acceleration

2008-06-12 Thread Saki Gaitatzes

Hello,

How do I add the nVIDIA acceleration drivers to the Fedora kde livecd to 
have decent opengl performance ?


Thank you

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[Fedora-livecd-list] Two different tracebacks with livecd-creator from git

2008-06-12 Thread Sebastian Vahl
Hi.

I'm quite busy atm so please excuse If these problems are already 
known/bugged.


1. On one machine livecd-creator fails to start:

# 
livecd-creator --config=/usr/share/livecd-tools/livecd-fedora-base-desktop.ks
Using label 'fedora-base-desktop-200806120903' and 
name 'livecd-fedora-base-desktop-200806120903'
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/livecd-creator, line 132, in module
sys.exit(main())
  File /usr/bin/livecd-creator, line 106, in main
ks = imgcreate.read_kickstart(options.kscfg)
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/imgcreate/kickstart.py, line 46, in 
read_kickstart
ks.readKickstart(path)
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line 709, in 
readKickstart
self._stateMachine (lambda: fh.readline())
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line 584, in 
_stateMachine
self.handleCommand(lineno, args)
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line 429, in 
handleCommand
self.handler.dispatcher(args, lineno)
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/base.py, line 328, in 
dispatcher
self.commands[cmd].parse(args[1:])
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/commands/xconfig.py, 
line 97, in parse
(opts, extra) = self.op.parse_args(args=args)
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'parse_args'



2. On another machine it fails after removing the root passwort:

[...]
/sbin/restorecon reset /var/run/pm-utils/storage context 
system_u:object_r:var_run_t:s0-system_u:object_r:hald_var_run_t:s0
Removing password for user root.
passwd: Success


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/livecd-creator, line 135, in module
sys.exit(main())
  File /usr/bin/livecd-creator, line 119, in main
creator.configure()
  File //usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/imgcreate/creator.py, line 710, in 
configure
kickstart.XConfig(self._instroot).apply(ksh.xconfig)
  File //usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/imgcreate/kickstart.py, line 224, 
in apply
if not ksxconfig.startX:
AttributeError: F10_XConfig instance has no attribute 'startX'


Rawhide and git are up2date on both machines (eg. 
pykickstart-1.36-1.fc10.noarch).

Sebastian


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Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] OpenGL with nVIDIA acceleration

2008-06-12 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen

Saki Gaitatzes wrote:

Hello,

How do I add the nVIDIA acceleration drivers to the Fedora kde livecd to 
have decent opengl performance ?




Add:

repo --name=livna --baseurl=http://rpm.livna.org/9 (i think, you should 
check it to make sure)


and in the %packages section, add the package name.

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Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Two different tracebacks with livecd-creator from git

2008-06-12 Thread Jeremy Katz
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 11:58 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote:
 I'm quite busy atm so please excuse If these problems are already 
 known/bugged.
[snip]
 Rawhide and git are up2date on both machines (eg. 
 pykickstart-1.36-1.fc10.noarch).

I think both are fixed with pykickstart-1.38

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Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Two different tracebacks with livecd-creator from git

2008-06-12 Thread Sebastian Vahl
Am Do 12.Juni 2008 schrieb Jeremy Katz:
 On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 11:58 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote:
  I'm quite busy atm so please excuse If these problems are already
  known/bugged.

 [snip]

  Rawhide and git are up2date on both machines (eg.
  pykickstart-1.36-1.fc10.noarch).

 I think both are fixed with pykickstart-1.38

Oh, my bad. The mirror choosed by one machine was out-of-date. But after an 
update to pykickstart-1.38 it also fails with the first error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/livecd-creator, line 135, in module
sys.exit(main())
  File /usr/bin/livecd-creator, line 109, in main
ks = imgcreate.read_kickstart(options.kscfg)
  File //usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/imgcreate/kickstart.py, line 47, in 
read_kickstart
ks.readKickstart(path)
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line 709, in 
readKickstart
self._stateMachine (lambda: fh.readline())
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line 555, in 
_stateMachine
self.readKickstart (args[1], reset=False)
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line 709, in 
readKickstart
self._stateMachine (lambda: fh.readline())
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line 584, in 
_stateMachine
self.handleCommand(lineno, args)
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/parser.py, line 429, in 
handleCommand
self.handler.dispatcher(args, lineno)
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/base.py, line 328, in 
dispatcher
self.commands[cmd].parse(args[1:])
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pykickstart/commands/xconfig.py, 
line 97, in parse
(opts, extra) = self.op.parse_args(args=args)
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'parse_args'

Sebastian


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Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Two different tracebacks with livecd-creator from git

2008-06-12 Thread Jeremy Katz
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 16:25 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote:
 Am Do 12.Juni 2008 schrieb Jeremy Katz:
  On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 11:58 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote:
   I'm quite busy atm so please excuse If these problems are already
   known/bugged.
 
  [snip]
 
   Rawhide and git are up2date on both machines (eg.
   pykickstart-1.36-1.fc10.noarch).
 
  I think both are fixed with pykickstart-1.38
 
 Oh, my bad. The mirror choosed by one machine was out-of-date. But after an 
 update to pykickstart-1.38 it also fails with the first error:

I just pointed clumens at this and he's fixed it up in pykickstart git,
should be a build in the next day or so or just grab the bits from git
(or downgrade to the F9 pykickstart)

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Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Networking during install

2008-06-12 Thread Bryan Kearney



Jeremy Katz wrote:

On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 13:08 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
I have an odd question. I am trying to build a livecd for a partner, and 
hte rpm will not install via the livecd (net net is that the pre-scripts 
which they use dont play well in a chrooted env.


I'm afraid to ask, but how so?  They shouldn't really have any way of
being able to tell.  


They are not using complete paths in the script. So.. it is failing when 
trying to find mkdir and date.




I figured I would work around this by putting a wget int he post section 
to get the rpm from the repo, and then install it locally. Yum gives me 
this error:


rpmdb: Program version 4.3 doesn't match environment version
error: db4 error(-30974) from dbenv-open: DB_VERSION_MISMATCH: Database 
environment version mismatch

error: cannot open Packages index using db3 -  (-30974)
error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm


Any way around this? This is on the RHEL5 livecd tools.


The version of rpm outside and inside the chroot are different.  You can
do the cleanup by hand of 'rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__*db*' as long as you
know nothing from outside is accessing it at that point



Thanks.. I will give that a try.

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Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Two different tracebacks with livecd-creator from git

2008-06-12 Thread Tim Wood

BTW, what is the pykickstart git (e.g. git )?

Tim


Jeremy Katz wrote:

On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 16:25 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote:
  

Am Do 12.Juni 2008 schrieb Jeremy Katz:


On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 11:58 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote:
  

I'm quite busy atm so please excuse If these problems are already
known/bugged.


[snip]

  

Rawhide and git are up2date on both machines (eg.
pykickstart-1.36-1.fc10.noarch).


I think both are fixed with pykickstart-1.38
  
Oh, my bad. The mirror choosed by one machine was out-of-date. But after an 
update to pykickstart-1.38 it also fails with the first error:



I just pointed clumens at this and he's fixed it up in pykickstart git,
should be a build in the next day or so or just grab the bits from git
(or downgrade to the F9 pykickstart)

Jeremy

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