Re: Echo Icons Tutorial - Working with Git
On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 23:51 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: Hi, I finished another tutorial for the echo icon theme, this time targeted at artists that might be afraid of having to work with git [1]. I hope I explained the steps we use to set up and use git repository good enough; if not, shout loud what section you do not understand and together we'll improve it ;-) Of course, I also put it on my blog [2] ;-) Martin, Would you be inclined to make a Fedora wiki page out of this? It could be a lot of help to all the non-developer communities in Fedora that want to make use of git in their project work. For instance, the Fedora Docs team is going to move guides and tutorials to individual hosted projects, and git seems like the way to go if we get to choose our SCM from the beginning. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
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[Issue 90735] fonts displayed are thin, weak, malformed
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[Issue 90735] fonts displayed are thin, weak, malformed
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=90735 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jun 15 12:05:09 + 2008 --- Just in case it's thought that I have a Fedora system, I do not. I'm running a fully updated Gentoo AMD 64 laptop: uname -a - Linux scarlatti 2.6.24-gentoo-r8 #2 PREEMPT Sat Jun 7 13:29:30 PDT 2008 x86_64 AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MT-32 AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
Broken dependencies in EPEL - 2008-06-15
Your following packages in the repository suffer from broken dependencies: == The results in this summary consider Test Updates! == package: fontforge - 20061025-2.el5.i386 from fedora-epel-5-i386 unresolved deps: /sbin/ldconfig libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) rtld(GNU_HASH) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) libm.so.6 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.4) libc.so.6 package: freefont - 20060126-4.el5.noarch from fedora-epel-5-i386 unresolved deps: /bin/sh package: mathml-fonts - 1.0-21.el5.noarch from fedora-epel-5-i386 unresolved deps: /bin/bash /bin/sh /bin/sh package: artwiz-aleczapka-fonts - 1.3-5.el5.noarch from fedora-epel-5-i386 unresolved deps: /bin/sh package: silkscreen-fonts - 1.0-1.el5.noarch from fedora-epel-5-i386 unresolved deps: /bin/sh package: tiresias-fonts - 1.0-2.el5.noarch from fedora-epel-5-i386 unresolved deps: /bin/sh ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
Broken dependencies in EPEL - 2008-06-15
Your following packages in the repository suffer from broken dependencies: == The results in this summary consider Test Updates! == package: fontforge - 20061025-2.el5.ppc from fedora-epel-5-ppc unresolved deps: libpng12.so.0 /sbin/ldconfig libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) rtld(GNU_HASH) libxml2.so.2 libpng12.so.0(PNG12_0) libX11.so.6 libtiff.so.3 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4) libz.so.1 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) libgif.so.4 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) libICE.so.6 libfreetype.so.6 libm.so.6 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.4) libSM.so.6 libjpeg.so.62 libc.so.6 package: freefont - 20060126-4.el5.noarch from fedora-epel-5-ppc unresolved deps: /bin/sh fontconfig package: mathml-fonts - 1.0-21.el5.noarch from fedora-epel-5-ppc unresolved deps: /bin/bash /bin/sh /bin/sh package: artwiz-aleczapka-fonts - 1.3-5.el5.noarch from fedora-epel-5-ppc unresolved deps: /bin/sh package: silkscreen-fonts - 1.0-1.el5.noarch from fedora-epel-5-ppc unresolved deps: /bin/sh package: tiresias-fonts - 1.0-2.el5.noarch from fedora-epel-5-ppc unresolved deps: /bin/sh ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Issue 90735] fonts displayed are thin, weak, malformed
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Re: [Fwd: Wiki migration - lost content]
On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 11:18 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: It was explained in multiple emails that people shouldn't even bother reporting this stuff, just fix it. I responded to the user directly, and turned that in to this: http://iquaid.org/2008/06/12/wiki-update-lost-content-and-l10n/ This early after the migration, we gain from using each of these QA sessions as publicity about how to Do The Right Thing. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Need a hand...
Anyone in the sysadmin-hosted group able to work on this project? https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/508 -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Panasonic Y7 hotkeys
Has anyone managed to get acpi/hotkeys working properly on a Panasonic Let's Note Y7 and Fedora 9? I cannot get suspend or the brightness keys to work. Any help would be appreciated. ___ Fedora-laptop-list mailing list Fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
On Sat June 14 2008 22:42:06 Arthur Pemberton wrote: What is your suggestion? We all make mistakes. Some people deny their mistakes. Some people admit their mistakes, learn from them, and grow. The Fedora KDE team has made it clear where they stand. KDE 4.x has good-looking icons, and technology which may one day be useful, but for now KDE 4.x just gets in the way of doing work. Ric will be installing CentOS tomorrow. I respect his decision but I've lost respect for Red Hat. Pulseaudio, desktops that can't logoff, and now trying to force us to use KDE 4.x before it's usable. I think it'll be Debian Lenny or Kubuntu Hardy LTS: http://ekaia.org/blog/2008/06/08/lets-go-for-kde-359-in-lenny/ http://kubuntu.org/announcements/8.04-release.php --Mike Bird -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: tr problem
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 00:19 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 14 June 2008, Ric Moore wrote: Whoops! You ferget the NEC Spinwriter at 50 cps! It was smart and tabbed over spaces to do it. Diablo's (I've had several) needed software drivers to do the same thing. I wish I still had mine. sighs Ric Ahh Ric, but the Spinwriter was not IIRC a real daisy, it was more like an overgrown thimble that IIRC had more then one char per leaf, so it moved in 2 directions to put the right character under the hammer. It spun, and moved up and down but it didn't have to move near as far as the daisy wheel did to put the right char under the hammer. Diablo's by now, have a platen roller that is as hard as glass, this in spite of, or perhaps because of, repeated applications of rubber renu, so their much vaunted quality of the finished product hasn't been like new in 30 years. I used rubbing alcohol liberally to soften it up. But I still own it till the next time it gets in my way out in the storage shed. Then it goes onto a 2 wheeler, and to the curb. It was nice, very nice, for as long as it lasted, about 15 years of fairly steady use here. I probably ran 30 cartons of std tractor feed through it myself. Remember when you could by a carton of paper for $15? Ribbons for $4? Now my damn printer uses 25 cents worth of ink when you turn it on and it prints a damn test page. I miss the look of a good carbon ribbon's output, too. It looked raised and very professional. Ah, they were gentler times. I could type on the 5525 SpinWriter's keyboard and through the full duplex serial connection to my Apple][, I got lower case!! Ha! Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar https://oar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 336-254-1339 - -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat June 14 2008 22:42:06 Arthur Pemberton wrote: What is your suggestion? We all make mistakes. Some people deny their mistakes. Some people admit their mistakes, learn from them, and grow. The Fedora KDE team has made it clear where they stand. If you had no suggestions, you could just say so. I am fully aware of all the variables at work. The Fedora KDE team is facing pressure on several fronts, and is receiving very little assistance. There was a period of discussion on all these things which you are now complaining about. The people doing the work came to a conclusion. I myself do not feel competent to judge their decision. I knew things would be rocky in F8,F9,F10 and so my desktop is still F7. My software still works, I haven't been hacked. -- Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 and Bittorrent ?? -- [SOLVED]
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 00:54 -0400, Bill Case wrote: Hi; I started Bittorrent seed for my F9 download in F8. I have installed F9 now and would like to continue the seed. But ... I keep getting the following error message from bittorrent: Fedora-9-etc. OS [Errno 13] Permission Denied: '/backup' /backup is the directory I downloaded the F9 CDs to. It is on a different hard drive from my installed F9 and Bittorrent. It is properly mounted and was accessible to Bittorrent in F8. All the ownership permissions are correct and are the same as before. It feels like a SELinux problem except that I have SELinux set to 'permissable'. It is probably a stupidity problem, but it has given me a couple of hours of frustration. Any suggestions as to what I should check, would be greatly appreciated. PEBKAC?! Fedora 9 now automatically mounts /backup from /media. My saved config for Bittorrent had it as /mnt/backup; fstab refused to say. I want to do my fair payback for the original F9 Bittorrent download. Regards Bill -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2 Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
On Sat June 14 2008 23:37:18 Arthur Pemberton wrote: The Fedora KDE team is facing pressure on several fronts Please elaborate. If the team's decision was coerced that would place them in a much less unfavorable light. --Mike Bird -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 1:48 AM, Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat June 14 2008 23:37:18 Arthur Pemberton wrote: The Fedora KDE team is facing pressure on several fronts Please elaborate. If the team's decision was coerced that would place them in a much less unfavorable light. I wasn't clear, pressure _in general_ (few resources, big tasks, little help) And all decisions have taken place in the open (public mailing lists, irc channels). And I also want to be clear that I am speaking on behalf of myself as a casual observer of the KDE effort in Fedora for a few years now. (if I haven't been clear about anything else, let me know) -- Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
On Sunday 15 June 2008 05:30:00 Ric Moore wrote: Installing CentOS tomorrow. I've got almost 1,500 members and participating organizations in KDE's PIM Kaddressbook for our Non-Profit. Can't do without it. I understand that it isn't in KDE4 as of yet. No support for KDE3 so I gotta dance with who brung me. I don't know who told you that, Ric, but it's just plain wrong. The new pim is not ready yet, but the whole of kontact from v.3 works perfectly in KDE4. I use it, including calendar and addressbook. My own two cents is that it might have been better if KDE3 been left in by default and introduce KDE4 into testing. That approach could've kept people, like myself, putting up with all the other blowups. Fedora, You all have just gone past the point of audience participation for me. This is a damn sad day, but it's been one heckuva ride. Two points there. First, by its very nature Fedora must have the latest. Second, how are the bugs going to be found if the desktop is not introduced to people? Fedora made the only possible decision. We should always remember that Fedora does not set out to be the stable desktop required in most production situations. You use it at your peril, The fact that it actually works in most situations is a bonus. Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?
On Sunday 15 June 2008 01:44:31 Kevin Kofler wrote: It's debatable whether Dolphin will ever have the usability that KDE 3.5 Konqueror had, but if it does it won't be until KDE 4.2 at the earliest. That's just not true. Both Dolphin and the embedded DolphinPart in Konqueror work just fine. Your complaint is also way too vague, you aren't saying what the usability problems you encountered are. Having had a little more time with dolphin I've found that I'm happy with it for some situations and prefer konqueror for others. KDE continues to give us such choices. What a surprise! :-) Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?
On Sunday 15 June 2008 04:40:47 David Boles wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: Mike Bird mgb-fedora at yosemite.net writes: We all make mistakes. Shipping KDE 4.0 in F9 was a mistake. It would be insulting to the members of the Fedora KDE SIG to assume that they would repeat their mistake in F10. Hence the title of this thread. Oh, and I forgot in my previous message: even IF shipping KDE 4.0.3 in F9 was a mistake (which I don't agree it was), that still would not imply that shipping KDE 4.1.x in F10 will also be a mistake, because KDE 4 will have improved by then. Kevin Kofler Take a deep breath Kevin. You did the right thing. This is almost like a troll convention around here. ;-) It has already been said, several times, that it is possible to do almost everything in KDE4 that was done in KDE3, but some things have to be done differently. Yes, the difference in icons on the desktop is something of an annoyance, but it takes little effort to work around it. As for not giving F9 to naive users because of this, who in their senses would give the first version of anything to naive users if there is a usable alternative. Keep them on F8 for now, but for heavens sake help fix any problems instead of this incessant whining. Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
FC9/8/7 Printing issue over IPP to remote Cups server
I have a FC6 server running CUPS which the family printer is attached to. My wife has an Windows XP box which users the server for file and print over samba. She is able to print duplex and multiple pages of a document. My desktop box is Fedora 9 but this problem also existed in FC8 and 7. Using remote IPP I am unable to print more than the first page of a document. If I install Samba and use that I have no problems. The settings on the menu for print are correct (duplex etc). Any ideas what I have done wrong. -- Tim and Alison Bentley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Recent updates caused Grub installation to be damaged?
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:52:31 +0800 Tony Frame [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had the same problem on 2 out of 3 F9 machines recently updated. Fixed it by booting from Live CD / USB and running grub and doing the following : root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) quit then re-booting (guess you should check hd0 is your boot device first). It's also the first time I've had this problem since starting with RH7. Sounds like someone needs to bugzilla it then, this really shouldn't happen. Had I been on the road without an F9 DVD to hand it would have been a lot more difficult to fix. -- Brian Morrison Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in the mud; after a while you realize you are muddy and the pig is enjoying it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Recent updates caused Grub installation to be damaged?
i got the same issue; i was unable in any way to chroot /mnt/sysimage after linux rescue as fstab and grub.conf have been changed by upgrade; i fixed them mounting disk on an external usb box. this was my changed fstab: UUID=cf7cd8e9-13c6-4997-88cf-2b2e917736fb / ext3 defaults1 1 UUID=22309ffe-0180-41bd-a868-9d5b15660781 /home ext3 defaults1 2 UUID=c46f0b8e-ea34-47f5-8c7f-57a7f3a5d531 /boot ext3 defaults1 2 tmpfs /dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0 devpts /dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 sysfs /syssysfs defaults0 0 proc/proc procdefaults0 0 UUID=817d341a-8daa-43dd-8c97-2eea4c1f418f swapswap defaults0 0 i restored it to: [09:34:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/log ]# cat /etc/fstab /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 / ext3defaults1 1 /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol02 /home ext3defaults1 2 /dev/sda1 /boot ext3defaults1 2 tmpfs /dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0 devpts /dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 sysfs /syssysfs defaults0 0 proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 swapswapdefaults0 0 this was my grub.conf changed by upgrade: # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root (hd0,0) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/sda default=0 timeout=5 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz hiddenmenu title Fedora (2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686 ro root=UUID=cf7cd8e9-13c6-4997-88cf-2b2e917736fb rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686.img title Fedora (2.6.25.4-30.fc9.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.4-30.fc9.i686 ro root=UUID=cf7cd8e9-13c6-4997-88cf-2b2e917736fb rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.25.4-30.fc9.i686.img i restored it to: # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root (hd0,0) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/sda default=0 timeout=5 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz hiddenmenu title Fedora (2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686.img title Fedora (2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686 ro root=UUID=cf7cd8e9-13c6-4997-88cf-2b2e917736fb rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686.img title Fedora (2.6.25.4-30.fc9.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.4-30.fc9.i686 ro root=UUID=cf7cd8e9-13c6-4997-88cf-2b2e917736fb rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.25.4-30.fc9.i686.img at last i was able to chroot and then i issued: grub-install /dev/sda then i was able to boot my fc9. i investigated on /var/log/yum.log to find the *guilt*; here it is the excerpt: Jun 13 13:54:46 Updated: selinux-policy-3.3.1-64.fc9.noarch Jun 13 13:55:08 Updated: selinux-policy-targeted-3.3.1-64.fc9.noarch Jun 13 13:55:35 Updated: selinux-policy-devel-3.3.1-64.fc9.noarch Jun 13 13:55:40 Updated: logwatch-7.3.6-22.fc9.noarch Jun 13 13:55:47 Updated: kernel-headers-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:57:04 Updated: 1:java-1.6.0-openjdk-javadoc-1.6.0.0-0.15.b09.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:57:14 Installed: kernel-devel-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686 Jun 13 13:57:23 Updated: nspr-4.7.1-0.9.1.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:57:28 Updated: nss-3.12.0.3-0.9.1.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:57:55 Updated: 1:java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-0.15.b09.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:57:57 Updated: postgresql-libs-8.3.3-1.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:57:58 Updated: kpartx-0.4.7-15.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:57:59 Updated: device-mapper-multipath-0.4.7-15.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:58:00 Updated: 1:java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.0.0-0.15.b09.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:58:02 Updated: nss-tools-3.12.0.3-0.9.1.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:58:31 Installed: kernel-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686 Jun 13 13:58:32 Updated: gstreamer-plugins-farsight-0.12.7-2.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:58:34 Updated: gdb-6.8-10.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:58:35 Updated: nspr-devel-4.7.1-0.9.1.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:58:36 Updated:
Re: Recent updates caused Grub installation to be damaged?
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 08:45:56 +0100 Brian Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:52:31 +0800 Tony Frame [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had the same problem on 2 out of 3 F9 machines recently updated. Fixed it by booting from Live CD / USB and running grub and doing the following : root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) quit then re-booting (guess you should check hd0 is your boot device first). It's also the first time I've had this problem since starting with RH7. Sounds like someone needs to bugzilla it then, this really shouldn't happen. Had I been on the road without an F9 DVD to hand it would have been a lot more difficult to fix. Seems there is already a bug open about this sort of behaviour: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450143 -- Brian Morrison Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in the mud; after a while you realize you are muddy and the pig is enjoying it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Recent updates caused Grub installation to be damaged?
On Sunday 15 June 2008, Brian Morrison wrote: It's also the first time I've had this problem since starting with RH7. yes. it is maybe the first time for every distro Sounds like someone needs to bugzilla it then, this really shouldn't happen. Had I been on the road without an F9 DVD to hand it would have been a lot more difficult to fix. we should advise every other fc9 user on this issue, but i dunno how... posting on a widely read mlist, like bugtraq, maybe -m -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Recent updates caused Grub installation to be damaged?
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:46:14 +0200 Maurizio Marini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i got the same issue; i was unable in any way to chroot /mnt/sysimage after linux rescue as fstab and grub.conf have been changed by upgrade; i fixed them mounting disk on an external usb box. this was my changed fstab: UUID=cf7cd8e9-13c6-4997-88cf-2b2e917736fb / ext3 defaults1 1 UUID=22309ffe-0180-41bd-a868-9d5b15660781 /home ext3 defaults1 2 UUID=c46f0b8e-ea34-47f5-8c7f-57a7f3a5d531 /boot ext3 defaults1 2 tmpfs /dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0 devpts /dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 sysfs /syssysfs defaults0 0 proc/proc procdefaults0 0 UUID=817d341a-8daa-43dd-8c97-2eea4c1f418f swapswap defaults0 0 i restored it to: [09:34:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/log ]# cat /etc/fstab /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 / ext3defaults1 1 /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol02 /home ext3defaults1 2 /dev/sda1 /boot ext3defaults1 2 tmpfs /dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0 devpts /dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 sysfs /syssysfs defaults0 0 proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 swapswapdefaults0 0 this was my grub.conf changed by upgrade: # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root (hd0,0) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/sda default=0 timeout=5 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz hiddenmenu title Fedora (2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686 ro root=UUID=cf7cd8e9-13c6-4997-88cf-2b2e917736fb rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686.img title Fedora (2.6.25.4-30.fc9.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.4-30.fc9.i686 ro root=UUID=cf7cd8e9-13c6-4997-88cf-2b2e917736fb rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.25.4-30.fc9.i686.img i restored it to: # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root (hd0,0) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/sda default=0 timeout=5 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz hiddenmenu title Fedora (2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686.img title Fedora (2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686 ro root=UUID=cf7cd8e9-13c6-4997-88cf-2b2e917736fb rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686.img title Fedora (2.6.25.4-30.fc9.i686) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.25.4-30.fc9.i686 ro root=UUID=cf7cd8e9-13c6-4997-88cf-2b2e917736fb rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.25.4-30.fc9.i686.img at last i was able to chroot and then i issued: grub-install /dev/sda then i was able to boot my fc9. i investigated on /var/log/yum.log to find the *guilt*; here it is the excerpt: Jun 13 13:54:46 Updated: selinux-policy-3.3.1-64.fc9.noarch Jun 13 13:55:08 Updated: selinux-policy-targeted-3.3.1-64.fc9.noarch Jun 13 13:55:35 Updated: selinux-policy-devel-3.3.1-64.fc9.noarch Jun 13 13:55:40 Updated: logwatch-7.3.6-22.fc9.noarch Jun 13 13:55:47 Updated: kernel-headers-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:57:04 Updated: 1:java-1.6.0-openjdk-javadoc-1.6.0.0-0.15.b09.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:57:14 Installed: kernel-devel-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686 Jun 13 13:57:23 Updated: nspr-4.7.1-0.9.1.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:57:28 Updated: nss-3.12.0.3-0.9.1.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:57:55 Updated: 1:java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-0.15.b09.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:57:57 Updated: postgresql-libs-8.3.3-1.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:57:58 Updated: kpartx-0.4.7-15.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:57:59 Updated: device-mapper-multipath-0.4.7-15.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:58:00 Updated: 1:java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.0.0-0.15.b09.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:58:02 Updated: nss-tools-3.12.0.3-0.9.1.fc9.i386 Jun 13 13:58:31 Installed: kernel-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686 Jun
Dolphin Ctrl+N New Window Problem.
hi there, after i open the dolphin file manager, and i do Ctrl+N to open a new window, the new window file location input turned readonly, i cannot key in any word, please try to figure out is there any same problem encountered. thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE 4.0: icons go crazy.
Kevin Kofler wrote: Andrea mariofutire at googlemail.com writes: Basically, some icons are wrong Looks like your icon cache is corrupt. Try deleting the .kde/cache-*/kpc directory in your home directory and its contents (where the * is your hostname). Please do NOT remove ~/.kde/cache-* itself (or even ~/.kde itself). Only remove the kpc directory and everything it contains. That's the pixmap/icon cache, KDE will regenerate it, hopefully in a non-corrupt way. Kevin Kofler No difference. I've removed ./kde/cache-*/kpc, logged off and logged on, but the icons did not change. Do you know how to check if the data is really corrupted? Andrea -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
mount options for dvd RAM
Hi, where can I configure the mount options, that gnome uses, when automaticall mounting DVD RAMs? I'd like to use to option noatime. Thanks in advance Boris P.S. These are the mount options, that are currently used, according to mount command: /dev/sr0 on /media/MEI_UDF type udf (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=500) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: tr problem
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 02:36 -0400, Ric Moore wrote: Remember when you could by a carton of paper for $15? Ribbons for $4? Now my damn printer uses 25 cents worth of ink when you turn it on and it prints a damn test page. Boxes of 2000 fan-fold sheets that lasted ages, and because you're not putting sheets into a tiny hopper, you weren't forever adding paper to a printer every other day. Likewise with ribbons that lasted for years. I gave up on inkjet printers, long ago. The running costs are stupid, the disable products an environmental disaster, made all the more worse by their short lifespan. I miss the look of a good carbon ribbon's output, too. It looked raised and very professional. I'm very impressed if, these days, I receive something that's obviously hand typed. There's quite a bit of skill in hand typing something without any errors. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: tr problem
On Sunday 15 June 2008 10:59:22 Tim wrote: There's quite a bit of skill in hand typing something without any errors. There's a lot of skill. I remember all too well getting to the end of a long document, only to find a typo. The only resort was to rip it out and start again. Believe me, I do not mourn the old days. Neither would you if you had to pay me for the time to type it two or three times for a simple correction. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Update FC9: VolGroup00 not found
Hallo, I just did a yum upgrade from FC 6 to FC 9 and did all steps described in [1]. On the FC 6 install, there was a LVM active with root partition on /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00. By mistake, I ran grub-install /dev/hda before booting. After rebooting, everything looks fine, but then I get /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 not found. So I checked the initrd file built by the kernel rpm and there is no dm_mod required for LVM included. I ran mkinitrd from a Knoppix system and then the generated initrd looked fine when I extracted its contents. The dm_mod is now included, but the problem still exists. I guess there's no problem with grub, but it is scary because in the yum Upgrade FAQ they say LVM Volume names are not affected. My question is, the change to libata from FC 6 to FC 7 should not consider my LVM-only installation, should it? What else can I do to get a working initrd? Regards, Daniel [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq#Fedora_Core_6_-.3E_Fedora_7 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 08:22:16 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fedora made the only possible decision. That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever read. Anyone still trying to delude themselves that fedora isn't primarily a beta test for redhat enterprise? :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to write to files on OS (F8) that won't boot
On Saturday 14 June 2008 07:09, Mike Williams wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- On Fri, 6/13/08, Nigel Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tried every incantion I can think of to write to F8's filesystem using Knoppix. I can read the files, can make changes to the files, but can't save the changes. Always permission denied. Would someone be kind enough to tell me how to get write access to an unbootable distro's filesystem, using Knoppix for example. This is from a message posted by Rob on this list, which was memorable (and searchable) due to the two words 'remount myself' Once you've booted from a knoppix or a rescue cd and have a shell prompt Found it myself: # mount -o remount,rw / Then I can edit and correct /etc/fstab. It worked for me once ;-) good luck, Mike Sorry for the delay in replying to all the fine suggestions to fix the problem. Dave Burns, and Mike above. Read the mount man page again, tried the incantations you suggested, which failed to work, with complaints about the partition already being mounted, not mounted, or synatax wrong. So I tried the line below, which did the job. # mount -w /dev/sda1 Carroll. I had to do the line above first, but what you said about adding the root password was also necessary to be able to use KDE's superuser file manager. Antonio. Thanks for your reply. I didn't try your suggestion, having already fixed the problem, as above, but thanks for the suggestion to try the DVD with chroot /mnt/sysimage, which would have been my next step, had Knoppix been a complete failure. Anyway, having made the changes to grub.conf, I tried to boot F8 again, now with text on the screen, and it appeared to hang at starting ipV6 tables, so I did a hard reset, and booted it again, selecting interactive mode, and saying NO to a whole bunch of services that I don't use anyway. Now the boot completed. Great I thought, I use KDE, but forgot to change the session in GDM, and found myself in Gnome. With hindsight I should have stayed in Gnome, and made permanent changes to the services that were causing the bootup problem, but no, I was annoyed, logged out, and back into KDE. Bad move. For some reason I have no mouse or keyboard in KDE, which is odd because I have F8 on a machine upstairs, with no such problems. You can see where this is going, because I had to do a hard reset, and go through the whole interactive bootup again, removing the unwanted services, so as get back into Gnome, so as to stop the dodgy service/s from being started at bootup. So where I stand at the moment on this new machine (my first from scratch computer build), is that F8 boots up now, but I can only use Gnome at the moment, but that's for another thread. Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon wouldn't bootup at all. It's a live CD, which when booted up into the desktop, you can run the installer from there. It starts to boot, then stops, and displays 4 repeated bits of underlined text in some pinkish colour, which even with my strong glasses on, is unreadable. Kubuntu Breezy Badger installed ok, but that is with a proper install CD. All I had to do was change the graphics driver to vesa (the graphics card has an ati one, and Breezy is probably a bit old to have an ati one that works). Enough rambling. I'll give the rundown of the hardware I've built the machine with on another thread, to see if anyone is having problems, particularly with the Asus M2N-X Plus mobo, with AMD Athlon 64 3800 sktAM2 CPU. All my OS's are i386, not X86_64. Thanks again for the help. Nigel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
On Sunday 15 June 2008 12:38, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 08:22:16 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fedora made the only possible decision. That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever read. Anyone still trying to delude themselves that fedora isn't primarily a beta test for redhat enterprise? :-). Fedora would not exist without RHEL. Think about it. Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 12:56 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 15 June 2008 12:38, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 08:22:16 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fedora made the only possible decision. That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever read. Anyone still trying to delude themselves that fedora isn't primarily a beta test for redhat enterprise? :-). Fedora would not exist without RHEL. Think about it. Anne Maybe it should be, RHEL would not exist without Fedora. -- === Yawd [noun, Bostonese]: the campus of Have Id. -- Webster's Unafraid Dictionary === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: pseudo-fix for NM in f7- on the last day before lifetime cut-off.
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 13:05 +0930, Tim wrote: Tim: Fix of *what* problem? Your message says nothing about it, nor does the page you referred to. Aaron Konstam: You are right I did not say but I had posted that information before, and anyone who has been keeping up with f7 updates would know. I can't say that I remember seeing you post anything about it, but this list has too much traffic for someone, other than the original poster, to remember the content between disassociated postings. I still run 7 on my laptop, and was aware of some problems with network manager, and got stung by the last update screwing things up, and fixed it by reverting (seeing as all those bug reports strongly reported that 7 was shortly to be EOL, and any fix was going to be for you to update your OS installation). Some time before your posting I'd looked in bugzilla, and found that issue already reported, along with a few other bugs. Even armed with that information, I couldn't tell from your post which bug you were referring to. Tim, give me a break. I already said I made a mistake. You indicate that you knew that the last update which installed three -0.6.6-2 updated rpms broke NM. Did you see my later post that identified the problem? I also thought of installing F8 or F9. -- === It is your concern when your neighbor's wall is on fire. -- Quintus Horatius Flaccus (Horace) === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?
Kevin Kofler wrote: KDE 4.0 is incomplete and not suitable for most users. Not true, it is completely usable. While the OP was over the top, there are a surprising (to me) number of minor problems with KDE-4 under Fedora-9. I'm a little surprised, too, that they haven't been sorted out sooner. Examples: 1) Stickiness of applications in the panel. When I click normally on eg my Firefox icon, nothing happens (usually). I have to hold down the button for a second, and sometimes I have to click a second time. 2) KNotify crashes when I shut down. (This has been in bugzilla for ages.) 3) Sometimes I get a ghost image on the screen in one of my desktops, which won't go away. This doesn't actually matter, as I can open a window on top of it. In spite of these minor problems, I like KDE-4 and would not revert to KDE-3 even if I could. Maybe the Fedora/KDE team could try to sort out problems a little faster? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
Mike Bird wrote: My loyalty is to keeping my systems secure and my users productive. It's hard to believe that Red Hat would ship KDE 4.1 in F10, but if it does KDE users will just choose another distro and install it. Speak for yourself. I doubt if you speak for anyone else. You certainly don't speak for this KDE user. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Fedora 9 update causes NetworkManager not to work wireless
I am having problems with NetworkManager and wireless network. When I installed Fedora 9 NetworkManager was working fine and able to connect to wireless networks. However, after I did the first update suggested by the OS, NetworkManager stopped being able to recognize wireless networks. I formatted and installed Fedora 9 twice to confirm the problem. I could not however identify which update is causing this problem. Anybody having the same problem? Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Cannot compile matplotlib on FC8: error: pygtk/pygtk.h: No such file or directory
Greetings, I'm trying to build and install matplotlib on Fedora 8, x86_64. Compilation files as below, even if I have installed all the -devel packages I could think of (namely pygtk2-devel. gtk2-devel...) and explicitly set PKG_CONFIG_PATH to /usr/lib/pkgconfig . What else am I missing? What else must I do to make the build script see pygtk.h, which is at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] matplotlib-0.98.0]# rpm -ql pygtk2-devel | grep 'pygtk.h' /usr/include/pygtk-2.0/pygtk/pygtk.h /usr/include/pygtk-2.0/pygtk/pygtk.h TIA, Marco F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] matplotlib-0.98.0]# make clean `which python` setup.py clean;\ rm -f *.png *.ps *.eps *.svg *.jpg *.pdf BUILDING MATPLOTLIB matplotlib: 0.98.0 python: 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Oct 30 2007, 13:45:26) [GCC 4.1.2 20070925 (Red Hat 4.1.2-33)] platform: linux2 REQUIRED DEPENDENCIES numpy: 1.1.0 freetype2: 9.16.3 OPTIONAL BACKEND DEPENDENCIES libpng: 1.2.29 Tkinter: no * Using default library and include directories for * Tcl and Tk because a Tk window failed to open. * You may need to define DISPLAY for Tk to work so * that setup can determine where your libraries are * located. Tkinter present, but header files are not * found. You may need to install development * packages. wxPython: no * wxPython not found Gtk+: gtk+: 2.12.5, glib: 2.14.6, pygtk: 2.12.0, pygobject: 2.14.0 * Could not find Gtk+ headers in any of * '/usr/local/include', '/usr/include', '.' Qt: no Qt4: no Cairo: 1.4.12 OPTIONAL DATE/TIMEZONE DEPENDENCIES datetime: present, version unknown dateutil: matplotlib will provide pytz: matplotlib will provide OPTIONAL USETEX DEPENDENCIES dvipng: 1.5 ghostscript: 8.61 latex: 3.141592 EXPERIMENTAL CONFIG PACKAGE DEPENDENCIES configobj: matplotlib will provide enthought.traits: matplotlib will provide [Edit setup.cfg to suppress the above messages] running clean removing 'build/temp.linux-x86_64-2.5' (and everything under it) find . -name _tmp*.py | xargs rm -f;\ find . \( -name *~ -o -name *.pyc \) | xargs rm -f;\ find unit \( -name *.png -o -name *.ps -o -name *.pdf -o -name *.eps \) | xargs rm -f find: unit: No such file or directory find . \( -name #* -o -name .#* -o -name .*~ -o -name *~ \) | xargs rm -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] matplotlib-0.98.0]# python setup.py build BUILDING MATPLOTLIB matplotlib: 0.98.0 python: 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Oct 30 2007, 13:45:26) [GCC 4.1.2 20070925 (Red Hat 4.1.2-33)] platform: linux2 REQUIRED DEPENDENCIES numpy: 1.1.0 freetype2: 9.16.3 OPTIONAL BACKEND DEPENDENCIES libpng: 1.2.29 Tkinter: no * Using default library and include directories for * Tcl and Tk because a Tk window failed to open. * You may need to define DISPLAY for Tk to work so * that setup can determine where your libraries are * located. Tkinter present, but header files are not * found. You may need to install development * packages. wxPython: no * wxPython not found Gtk+: gtk+: 2.12.5, glib: 2.14.6, pygtk: 2.12.0, pygobject: 2.14.0 * Could not find Gtk+ headers in any of * '/usr/local/include', '/usr/include', '.' Qt: no Qt4: no Cairo: 1.4.12 OPTIONAL DATE/TIMEZONE DEPENDENCIES datetime: present, version unknown dateutil: matplotlib will provide pytz: matplotlib will provide OPTIONAL USETEX DEPENDENCIES dvipng: 1.5 ghostscript: 8.61 latex: 3.141592 EXPERIMENTAL CONFIG PACKAGE DEPENDENCIES configobj: matplotlib will provide enthought.traits: matplotlib will provide [Edit setup.cfg to suppress the above messages] running build running build_py copying
Re: Dolphin Ctrl+N New Window Problem.
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 15 June 2008 09:07:00 Nicholas Yau wrote: hi there, after i open the dolphin file manager, and i do Ctrl+N to open a new window, the new window file location input turned readonly, i cannot key in any word, please try to figure out is there any same problem encountered. thanks. Hi, Nicholas. I've just tried this both under Fedora and under Mandriva. In both cases I could copy and paste a file, so it's definitely not read-only. I can't think what could cause it, assuming that you are actually looking at a directory for which you have write permission. Anne i think you misunderstood my problem. please follow this steps: 1. open dolphin 2. crtl+n (combination key - not mouse select) you are now in the new window 3. try to edit the location bar by typing something in it. see whether is the input let you key in anything. thanks. please respond me back asap. thanks :) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
Anne Wilson wrote: And as such, it's often been said that it's not a distro for general desktop use, particularly in a production environment. Either people can't read, or just refuse to learn. I don't agree with this often-repeated sentiment. It's used too often as an explanation or excuse for simple mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes. In my experience Fedora makes no more (or less) than other distributions. Fedora standard distribution is not in my view bleeding edge. The OP who is threatening to go to KUbuntu will find just as many mistakes there. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE 4.0: icons go crazy.
Andrea wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: Looks like your icon cache is corrupt. Try deleting the .kde/cache-*/kpc directory in your home directory and its contents (where the * is your hostname). Please do NOT remove ~/.kde/cache-* itself (or even ~/.kde itself). Only remove the kpc directory and everything it contains. That's the pixmap/icon cache, KDE will regenerate it, hopefully in a non-corrupt way. No difference. I've removed ./kde/cache-*/kpc, logged off and logged on, but the icons did not change. Nb One of you made a typo. Kevin said .kde - you said ./kde . -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: DVD Based backup without scripts ?
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 15:07 -0600, linuxguy wrote: I'd like to backup a bunch of data onto DVDs. About 16 GB worth, more than a single DVD holds. Is there a (GPL?) Linux utility that I can use to do this easily ? Will k3b do this? -- Mike Chambers Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Firefox for ever
Sorry to be mean, but why don't Fedora just admit that no browser they produce is likely to be as good as Firefox? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: flash video to mp3 file ? (ffmpeg doesn't recognize flash file...)
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 03:56 +, g wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I agree :-) you do? that is a surprise to me. especially from what i have seen in a lot of your previous post. ;o) Just because I agree doesn't mean I always remember to do it :-) poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 07:38 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 08:22:16 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fedora made the only possible decision. That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever read. Anyone still trying to delude themselves that fedora isn't primarily a beta test for redhat enterprise? :-). One has nothing to do with the other. Fedora is clearly intended to be leading edge. KDE-4 is clearly leading edge. Kevin Kofler stated it clearly...the 3 Fedora developers made the decision without any input from RedHat at all. Clearly it was not the only possible decision but it was the decision that they made. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Selinux / NM denial
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Hash: SHA1
I don't get this. What is Network Manager doing with /dev/root? Also,
Network Manager is not enabled in chkconfig.
Summary:
SELinux is preventing nm-system-setti (NetworkManager_t) getattr to
/dev/root
(fixed_disk_device_t).
Detailed Description:
SELinux denied access requested by nm-system-setti. It is not expected
that this
access is required by nm-system-setti and this access may signal an
intrusion
attempt. It is also possible that the specific version or configuration
of the
application is causing it to require additional access.
Allowing Access:
Sometimes labeling problems can cause SELinux denials. You could try to
restore
the default system file context for /dev/root,
restorecon -v '/dev/root'
If this does not work, there is currently no automatic way to allow this
access.
Instead, you can generate a local policy module to allow this access -
see FAQ
(http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can
disable
SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is not
recommended.
Please file a bug report (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi)
against this package.
Additional Information:
Source Context
system_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
Target Contextsystem_u:object_r:fixed_disk_device_t:s0
Target Objects/dev/root [ blk_file ]
Sourcenm-system-setti
Source Path /usr/sbin/nm-system-settings
Port Unknown
Host sds-desk.sterndata.com
Source RPM Packages NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.9.4.svn3675.fc9
Target RPM Packages
Policy RPMselinux-policy-3.3.1-64.fc9
Selinux Enabled True
Policy Type targeted
MLS Enabled True
Enforcing ModeEnforcing
Plugin Name catchall_file
Host Name sds-desk.sterndata.com
Platform Linux sds-desk.sterndata.com
2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686
~ #1 SMP Tue Jun 10 16:27:49 EDT 2008 i686 i686
Alert Count 2
First SeenSat 14 Jun 2008 02:12:27 PM CDT
Last Seen Sun 15 Jun 2008 09:06:17 AM CDT
Local ID 4eb3e516-3a69-4a76-8905-f2485b0e86ef
Line Numbers
Raw Audit Messages
host=sds-desk.sterndata.com type=AVC msg=audit(1213538777.704:14): avc:
~ denied { getattr } for pid=3063 comm=nm-system-setti
path=/dev/root dev=tmpfs ino=318
scontext=system_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
tcontext=system_u:object_r:fixed_disk_device_t:s0 tclass=blk_file
host=sds-desk.sterndata.com type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1213538777.704:14):
arch=4003 syscall=195 success=no exit=-13 a0=28e467d a1=bff648dc
a2=58fff4 a3=28e467d items=0 ppid=1 pid=3063 auid=4294967295 uid=0 gid=0
euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=(none) ses=4294967295
comm=nm-system-setti exe=/usr/sbin/nm-system-settings
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Re: DVD Based backup without scripts ?
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 09:33 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 15:07 -0600, linuxguy wrote: I'd like to backup a bunch of data onto DVDs. About 16 GB worth, more than a single DVD holds. Is there a (GPL?) Linux utility that I can use to do this easily ? Will k3b do this? I doubt it. k3b is for copying stuff to/from to CD/DVD media. It can handle straight data files, audio CDs, iso images etc., but AFAIK it's not going to automatically split a large data set into multiple DVDs. Even if it did, I wouldn't bet on being able to recover anything from the middle of the set, which is a fairly basic requirement for a backup system. However I haven't tried doing this, so who knows? poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: tr problem
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 19:29 +0930, Tim wrote: Boxes of 2000 fan-fold sheets that lasted ages, and because you're not putting sheets into a tiny hopper, you weren't forever adding paper to a printer every other day. Likewise with ribbons that lasted for years. Those were the days. I typed my PhD thesis in 'em', formatted it with 'nroff' and printed it on a Diablo. The figures were hand-drawn using a stencil set. These young whippersnappers don't know what computing is all about :-) (Cue Monty Python's Four Yorkshiremen sketch) poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 15:47 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: KDE 4.0 is incomplete and not suitable for most users. Not true, it is completely usable. While the OP was over the top, there are a surprising (to me) number of minor problems with KDE-4 under Fedora-9. I'm a little surprised, too, that they haven't been sorted out sooner. Examples: 1) Stickiness of applications in the panel. When I click normally on eg my Firefox icon, nothing happens (usually). I have to hold down the button for a second, and sometimes I have to click a second time. Never seen that. 2) KNotify crashes when I shut down. (This has been in bugzilla for ages.) Seen that very occasionally. 3) Sometimes I get a ghost image on the screen in one of my desktops, which won't go away. Never seen that. One thing I do see (and assume is in BZ though I really should check) is messed-up window decorations for a newly-created window, e.g. the title bar is half-drawn and some of the buttons don't appear. As soon as I grab the window and move it slightly, it fixes itself. It doesn't seem to depend on the theme as I've tried several. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Cannot compile matplotlib on FC8: error: pygtk/pygtk.h: No such file or directory
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008, M. Fioretti wrote: I'm trying to build and install matplotlib on Fedora 8, x86_64. That is doing it the hard way. The easy way is yum install python-matplotlib If you still want to build it, why not look at the spec file for the source RPM for the above package, as that will tell you how the rpm was built. Michael Young -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Cannot compile matplotlib on FC8: error: pygtk/pygtk.h: No such file or directory
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:01:06 +0200, M. Fioretti wrote: Greetings, I'm trying to build and install matplotlib on Fedora 8, x86_64. Compilation files as below, even if I have installed all the -devel packages I could think of (namely pygtk2-devel. gtk2-devel...) and explicitly set PKG_CONFIG_PATH to /usr/lib/pkgconfig . For x86_64 the default /usr/lib64/pkgconfig is correct. Why do you point pkg-config to the 32-bit templates? What else am I missing? What else must I do to make the build script see pygtk.h, which is at: Gtk+: gtk+: 2.12.5, glib: 2.14.6, pygtk: 2.12.0, pygobject: 2.14.0 * Could not find Gtk+ headers in any of * '/usr/local/include', '/usr/include', '.' This could be because pkg-config inter-dependencies don't resolve since you modified PKG_CONFIG_PATH. The include paths can only be found if the dependency chain is complete. $ pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0 pygtk-2.0 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pygtk-2.0 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Dolphin Ctrl+N New Window Problem.
On Sunday 15 June 2008 15:02:49 nicholas Yau wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 15 June 2008 09:07:00 Nicholas Yau wrote: hi there, after i open the dolphin file manager, and i do Ctrl+N to open a new window, the new window file location input turned readonly, i cannot key in any word, please try to figure out is there any same problem encountered. thanks. Hi, Nicholas. I've just tried this both under Fedora and under Mandriva. In both cases I could copy and paste a file, so it's definitely not read-only. I can't think what could cause it, assuming that you are actually looking at a directory for which you have write permission. Anne i think you misunderstood my problem. please follow this steps: 1. open dolphin 2. crtl+n (combination key - not mouse select) you are now in the new window Yes, that's what I did. 3. try to edit the location bar by typing something in it. see whether is the input let you key in anything. thanks. I did think that you meant the whole directory was read-only. However, I've just followed your instructions, and I have no problem changing directory by typing into the location bar. Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?
On Sunday 15 June 2008 15:47:38 Timothy Murphy wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: KDE 4.0 is incomplete and not suitable for most users. Not true, it is completely usable. While the OP was over the top, there are a surprising (to me) number of minor problems with KDE-4 under Fedora-9. I'm a little surprised, too, that they haven't been sorted out sooner. Examples: 1) Stickiness of applications in the panel. When I click normally on eg my Firefox icon, nothing happens (usually). I have to hold down the button for a second, and sometimes I have to click a second time. That used to be a problem on my Fedora box, but isn't, any longer. Now I usually get an immediate response. 2) KNotify crashes when I shut down. (This has been in bugzilla for ages.) I'm still seeing that one. It's annoying, but not a show-stopper. 3) Sometimes I get a ghost image on the screen in one of my desktops, which won't go away. This doesn't actually matter, as I can open a window on top of it. Haven't seen that one. In spite of these minor problems, I like KDE-4 and would not revert to KDE-3 even if I could. Maybe the Fedora/KDE team could try to sort out problems a little faster? Maybe they can't. Some problems can't be fixed until we get 4.1. On the whole, though, I agree with you. It took a little getting used to, but I do like it. I'll put up with its shortcomings while it is 4.0. 4.1 is only a few weeks away. Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?
Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: KDE 4.1 will be incomplete and not suitable for most users. Software is rarely complete, but I find even KDE 4.0 very usable, though far from perfect. I found KDE 4.0 a real disappointment, especially when I was really looking forward to using it. I think it's currently lacking a lot of what I liked about KDE 3.5.x. I find Dolphin to be actually much better for file management than any Konqueror version I have ever tried. It's probably just a matter of preference. Yes I think the previous problem with konqueror was the bewildering range of options and views, many of which weren't that practical, Dolphin fairs much better in that respect. I think the new menu is great. Seriously? I think it's just god awful. I find it slow to navigate through and just plain awkward to use, I'm thankful they've left the option in to switch to the classic menu system. I usually don't want to browser for the application I am looking for in nested menus. The new menu lets me just type a few letters and have me launch the program instantly, of use the favorites feature. Doesn't seem too different from the old menus, frequently used apps etc were stored at the top of the menu, and well I could always type a program by name from konsole but then I had all my favourite apps on my taskbar for one-click launching which sadly appears missing from KDE 4. -- Ian Chapman. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
max bianco wrote: KDE 4.0 is already way better than its predecessor. I used KDE before I started using Fedora but not after, it was the ugliest KDE i had seen. KDE is moving in the right direction as far as I am concerned but what do i know, i was in the minority when i bitched about the ugly KDE of yesteryear, I am in the minority again it seems. I think it's mostly that those who are unhappy are simply the most vocal about it, which is why basing decisions based only the squeeky wheel is rarely wise. -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
Kevin Kofler wrote: Mike Bird mgb-fedora at yosemite.net writes: It's hard to believe that Red Hat would ship KDE 4.1 in F10, but if s/Red Hat/the Fedora Project/ This decision was not made by Red Hat, it was made by the Fedora KDE maintainers, and the Fedora KDE SIG as a whole. shameless plug Fwiw, the KDE SIG is open to new ideas, help, criticism, participation, whatever. If anyone is open and willing to help steer the direction of fedora/kde, feel free to join the effort and participate: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE /shameless plug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 10:47 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: max bianco wrote: KDE 4.0 is already way better than its predecessor. I used KDE before I started using Fedora but not after, it was the ugliest KDE i had seen. KDE is moving in the right direction as far as I am concerned but what do i know, i was in the minority when i bitched about the ugly KDE of yesteryear, I am in the minority again it seems. I think it's mostly that those who are unhappy are simply the most vocal about it, which is why basing decisions based only the squeeky wheel is rarely wise. What I believe it to be is...Those of us who have to put a desktop system in for other, less skilled users are not eager to put what is basically a 'dead desktop' in front of those users because they often save files to their desktop and move them from there. This is a very real problemI made it clear yesterday and Kevin responded to it adequately. For those of us in that position, it seems advantageous to hang with F7/F8 for a while longer. The rest of the griping seems to be individual users who are unwilling to deal with some feature regression for the short term for the benefit of a feature rich future. Those opinions I pretty much dismiss summarily since you guys already made that decision for them. Hanging with F7 or F8 for a while for those people certainly is an option too. Thanks Rex and Kevin for your efforts, your considerations and taking the abuse which I would think is unwarranted but others don't share my opinion. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?
Kevin Kofler wrote: KDE 4.0 is incomplete and not suitable for most users. Not true, it is completely usable. Usability is more subjective than simply true or false. Sure KDE 4 is usable, but lacks a lot of the usability I liked in KDE 3.5.x. -- Ian Chapman. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?
Anne Wilson cannewilson at googlemail.com writes: Maybe they can't. Some problems can't be fixed until we get 4.1. On the whole, though, I agree with you. It took a little getting used to, but I do like it. I'll put up with its shortcomings while it is 4.0. 4.1 is only a few weeks away. This has been one of those threads that last and last - and it seems to me that occasionally frustration with an issue builds up and eventually we get these everlasting complaints sessions. I think everyone would probably agree that KDE4 is not perfect at present but we should accept the real experts' view that underlying this new desktop is a concept that will eventually not just supercede the old KDE but will eventually yield a lovely facility that we will get to love when it is polished and optimised - but it will take a little time. If you have ever done any programming yourself you will know that getting optimised bug free code first time round almost never happens barring a miracle - so gives the devs a break and allow them a bit of time without too much heckling! A little praise might no go amiss at times either! I accept that a calculated risk was taken in including KDE as 4.0.3 in F9 but I also accept their judgement and we may well be seeing strong praise rather than condemnation in F10's lifetime. As has been said a number of times - you can always stay with F8 for the moment until KDE4 has 4.1 out the door and that will be in a month or so. That will still be some months before F10 release by which time KDE4 should hopefully be a really nice desktop. I am filing bugs in BZ when I find issues and all of us who are using KDE4 should contribute to its development by doing this. Certainly I have found that the few people who get changes implemented are generally very responsive and do a great job in either amending things for Fedora or represent Fedora interests upstream. Most of the complainers do not directly fix things - so we all perhaps need a little patience and do our bit to help rather than simply grumble. My 2pennyworth... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Fedora 9 update causes NetworkManager not to work wireless
Folks; I am having problems with NetworkManager and wireless network. When I installed Fedora 9 NetworkManager was working fine and able to connect to wireless networks. However, after I did the first update suggested by the OS, NetworkManager stopped being able to recognize the WEP of the wireless networks. I formatted and installed Fedora 9 twice to confirm the problem. I could not however identify which update is causing this problem. Anybody having the same problem? Solution? Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to not lock the screen
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, g wrote: Michael Hennebry wrote: I did an experiment. snip Eventually something else blanked the screen and wanted my password. 2 good reasons for what i have 4 suggestions. 1a) if not already level 3, change '/etc/inittab' to *id:3:initdefault:*, reboot. 1b) in 'level 3'; $ mv .kde .kde.old $ startx if still, 2) add another user, login as, if continues, #3. I got around to trying 1 and 2, but no joy. After exiting X, I did notice window manager complaints. I kind of fuzzy on what they were. Possibly they were the result of trying to run a gnome desktop without gnome. IIRC I didn't clickon gnome during install. I tried grepping /var/log/* , but didn't find the complaints. 3) r r kde. I don't know how to r r KDE or anything else. I presume it doesn't mean rest and recreate. seaRch and destRoy? 4) someone else this list | kde 'tech list' | read source. i have tried to dupe problem, unable. i have 'touch', 'find', 'grep' and not found any files that give clue. 'flag' for screen password lock may be in a 'power save' file, even a display manager. if it where a problem i had, i would have r r kde long ago. whole install, maybe. for sure if i found 'bug' early. -- Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those parts of the system that you can hit with a hammer (not advised) are called Hardware; those program instructions that you can only curse at are called Software. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
OT: Goodbye Fedora 9 - Hello Fedora 10?
Greetings, Blah - I'm off running F8... Too many issues with 9 1. Known issues with install Nvidia 2. Recent updates give the ever so pleasant pop in audio 3. Recent updates seem to create lag points (switching from app to app or window to window) 4. Xorg and or Gnome unfinished GDM issues 5. My Amazon downloaded won't run (even though some of you have seemed to have gotten it to run This is on my Sony 3 Vaio desktop (running either 32 bit or 64 bit F9) F8 runs so smoothly compared to 9 (IMHO). I just didn't want to waste my time tinkering and waiting for things to get fixed. I did like Firefox though (even if it is a Beta) I was hoping (and still do) that there might be an interim release. Maybe a Fedora 9.1 with many of the issues worked out (or at lest the ones above). IMHO, F9 should not have been released - granted, I understand that Fedora is pretty much cutting edge, but still. F9 could have held off a few more months and delivered a system that at least installs without having to do the text install (granted, everyone should be at least familiar with it - many friends of mine freaked out since they had to use that install method). Yes - I know that some of these issues I could have lived with (meaning, I could have resorted to a previous kernel) but I feel I should not have to. I also know that some of you will say that if I want a more stable Linux, I would consider CentOS. Trust me, if F10 isn't any better then 9 (overall, and livable) then I just may. I of course would rather not - I had options. Ubuntu was my first real experience with Linux on a desktop, and I considered going back. For shits giggles, I installed Ubu 8.04 - Oh, it was nice and all. It ran nicely (the i386 version - I didn't bother with the x64 version). But it just didn't feel right. What does that mean, right - I grew to really love Fedora. For now, I'll stay happy with my reinstalled copy of Fedora 8 with the hopes that things will get ironed out in a years time or so. This is by no means a thread to bash Fedora - it's just my feelings about a really great Linux distro and how disappointed I am. I know the devs read this list - I'm hoping that they consider holding off the next release until things are ironed out and not release F10 for the sake of getting a release out. Overall though, I am very pleased with switching to Linux (from a FreeBSD desktop) and I really do want to stay a Happy Fedoran (is that a word?!). Thanks guys (and gals) for all the hard work that you do. I for one appreciate it. -- Best regards, Chris () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments There's no place like 127.0.0.1 signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: tr problem
Gene Heskett wrote: CoCo's have always had lowercase, just didn't show it. I'm logged into mine with minicom right now. :-) Working on mouse drivers, somebodies update broke them. Aren't there emulators these days so you don't have to deal with serial cables for your nostalgia? -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Firefox for ever
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: Sorry to be mean, but why don't Fedora just admit that no browser they produce is likely to be as good as Firefox? Huh? That doesn't make any sense. Fedora doesn't produce any browser although it does contribute to Firefox and includes it in the repository. I guess I should have said Fedora/KDE. (One tends to forget that there are still some people running Gnome.) When I install Fedora-9 from the KDE Fedora Live CD I was offered Konqueror as default browser. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Google toolbar with Fedora-9
I had two Google gizmos that didn't work with Fedora-9 Firefox - Google Browser Sync and Google Toolbar. I see that the Browser Sync (bizarrely to my mind) has been withdrawn by Google; but is anyone using the Google toolbar with Fedora-9 Firefox? I notice that google is always offered at the top of the URL choices, so it only takes a second to open a google window. Is this a substitute for the toolbar? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2reland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: flash video to mp3 file ? (ffmpeg doesn't recognize flash file...)
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Just because I agree doesn't mean I always remember to do it :-) lol. ok. i will say no more about you... -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
Craig White wrote: What I believe it to be is...Those of us who have to put a desktop system in for other, less skilled users are not eager to put what is basically a 'dead desktop' in front of those users because they often save files to their desktop and move them from there. In what sense is the desktop dead, as a matter of interest? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Firefox for ever
Timothy Murphy wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: Sorry to be mean, but why don't Fedora just admit that no browser they produce is likely to be as good as Firefox? Huh? That doesn't make any sense. Fedora doesn't produce any browser although it does contribute to Firefox and includes it in the repository. I guess I should have said Fedora/KDE. (One tends to forget that there are still some people running Gnome.) When I install Fedora-9 from the KDE Fedora Live CD I was offered Konqueror as default browser. OK, I admit it. Feel better? :) Now, suggest how to make firefox fit on the livecd without sacrificing any other essential kde functionality. -- Rex -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Firefox for ever
Timothy Murphy wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: Sorry to be mean, but why don't Fedora just admit that no browser they produce is likely to be as good as Firefox? Huh? That doesn't make any sense. Fedora doesn't produce any browser although it does contribute to Firefox and includes it in the repository. I guess I should have said Fedora/KDE. (One tends to forget that there are still some people running Gnome.) When I install Fedora-9 from the KDE Fedora Live CD I was offered Konqueror as default browser. asbestos Does anyone have numbers on the distribution of Gnome vs KDE users in Linux at large and Fedora specifically? I hear a lot of complaints by the KDE folks (not just on 3.5 vs 4.0 issues). Is this just tongue-in-cheek the down trodden minority rage /tongue-in-cheek or are there more KDE users than I think?/asbestos Does smolt gather these statistics? I didn't find any references on the wiki. ~~R -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: bootable failed sw raid 1 with F9
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 19:43 +0200, Sander Hoentjen wrote: Hi list, For the first time in my life i tried to install Fedora with sw raid. See below what went wrong. Here is what I did: Start with 2 empty 500GB sata disks. Make sure nvraid is turned off in my BIOS. Start an F9 install, creating 2 sw RAID partitions: md0 and md1. md0 is 100MB and has an ext3 /boot. This could be the blind leading the blind, but just raided my centos5. and was advised not to raid the /boot. as it can get confused as to waht to boot from. If you need a backup boot just rsync it to the second drive as /boot1 (or similar) Frank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE 4.0: icons go crazy.
Francisco Miguel Biete fbiete at gmail.com writes: I installed an icon theme from kde-look and my icons went crazy, almost everyone was the rewind icon. I removed the icon theme, switched back to fedora oxygen and logout. Maybe a change of format between KDE 3.5 and KDE 4.0??? i will remaing with the default for a while... until KDE 4.1?? Yes, icon themes for KDE 3 do not work properly in KDE 4 and are not expected to. KDE 3 used its own nonstandard icon naming, KDE 4 now complies with the freedesktop.org icon-naming-spec. This is not a bug, and almost certainly KDE 4 will never support old KDE 3 icon themes. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
Timothy Murphy gayleard at eircom.net writes: In what sense is the desktop dead, as a matter of interest? He means the KDE 4.0 limitation that changes to icons on the desktop are not reflected on the file system, which means that if you (ab)use the desktop to store files on, it won't behave as expected. That should be fixed in 4.1 with the new folderview applet. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Firefox for ever
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:47:46 -0700 Richard England [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have numbers on the distribution of Gnome vs KDE users in Linux at large and Fedora specifically? There there are us true die hard stick-in-the-mud users who don't use either gnome or kde :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
Craig White craigwhite at azapple.com writes: Kevin Kofler stated it clearly...the 3 Fedora developers made the decision without any input from RedHat at all. Actually we're 5: 4 packagers (Than Ngo, Rex Dieter, Lukáš Tinkl and me) and one Live CD maintainer (Sebastian Vahl) who also maintains/comaintains some packages. And there are many other participants in the KDE SIG who did some work too, for example Pavel Shevchuk (Stalwart) who did the Fedora Waves KSplash and KDM themes. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
Timothy Murphy gayleard at eircom.net writes: It's used too often as an explanation or excuse for simple mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes. True, but shipping KDE 4 was NOT a mistake. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: tr problem
On 06/15/2008 11:04:07 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 19:29 +0930, Tim wrote: Boxes of 2000 fan-fold sheets that lasted ages, and because you're not putting sheets into a tiny hopper, you weren't forever adding paper to a printer every other day. Likewise with ribbons that lasted for years. Those were the days. I typed my PhD thesis in 'em', formatted it with 'nroff' and printed it on a Diablo. The figures were hand-drawn using a stencil set. These young whippersnappers don't know what computing is all about :-) Not familiar with 'em', I was stuck on using 'SOS' on an overloaded PDP-10. It might not have been the same 'nroff' but the name was the same. I was at least subsidized to use the Calcomp drum plotter. OTOH, getting that Diablo to print that whole thing out was _painful_ and loud. And required working in the wee hours of the morning as the system was marginally less overloaded then. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE 4.0: icons go crazy.
Timothy Murphy wrote: Andrea wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: Looks like your icon cache is corrupt. Try deleting the .kde/cache-*/kpc directory in your home directory and its contents (where the * is your hostname). Please do NOT remove ~/.kde/cache-* itself (or even ~/.kde itself). Only remove the kpc directory and everything it contains. That's the pixmap/icon cache, KDE will regenerate it, hopefully in a non-corrupt way. No difference. I've removed ./kde/cache-*/kpc, logged off and logged on, but the icons did not change. Nb One of you made a typo. Kevin said .kde - you said ./kde . I made a type. I removed ~/.kde/cache-... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Firefox for ever
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 14:00 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:47:46 -0700 Richard England [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have numbers on the distribution of Gnome vs KDE users in Linux at large and Fedora specifically? There there are us true die hard stick-in-the-mud users who don't use either gnome or kde :-). Sorry I find it, tried yum, apt, windows update. No package stick-in-the-mud.noarch.rpm availabe. Frank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE 4.0: icons go crazy.
Kevin Kofler wrote: Francisco Miguel Biete fbiete at gmail.com writes: I installed an icon theme from kde-look and my icons went crazy, almost everyone was the rewind icon. I removed the icon theme, switched back to fedora oxygen and logout. Maybe a change of format between KDE 3.5 and KDE 4.0??? i will remaing with the default for a while... until KDE 4.1?? Yes, icon themes for KDE 3 do not work properly in KDE 4 and are not expected to. KDE 3 used its own nonstandard icon naming, KDE 4 now complies with the freedesktop.org icon-naming-spec. This is not a bug, and almost certainly KDE 4 will never support old KDE 3 icon themes. Kevin Kofler Let me get it right. Some of the themes I find in the System Settings of KDE 4 are known not to work with KDE 4? Why are they there? How do I know which ones are good? Andrea -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Firefox for ever
--- On Sun, 6/15/08, Tom Horsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom Horsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Firefox for ever To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Sunday, June 15, 2008, 11:00 AM On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:47:46 -0700 Richard England [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have numbers on the distribution of Gnome vs KDE users in Linux at large and Fedora specifically? There there are us true die hard stick-in-the-mud users who don't use either gnome or kde :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list And there are others that have both as well :) This day I'll login to Gnome, Tommorrow I'll run KDE. But it definitely would be nice for someone to collect data, even though it does not matter, and create a Venn Diagram or a nice graph which will show the true picture of what Desktop Fedora users use Gnome KDEXFCE E17_,etc. A nice survey might come in handy, but that involves work and time and effort, how many users would be willing to participate and put some time into it? Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
PackageKit update applet problem
Running Fedora 9. If I click on the icon in the notification area, I see dozens, maybe hunders, of lines saying: Getting updates - waiting for other tasks to complete. Obviously one task has got stuck, and the others are all queueing up behind it. Is there any easy way to clear this lot (preferably without rebooting)? How does one find out why a task failed to complete? Some log file I assume, but which? Thanks for any help. -- Colin Adams Preston Lancashire -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE 4.0: icons go crazy.
Andrea wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: Andrea wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: Looks like your icon cache is corrupt. Try deleting the .kde/cache-*/kpc directory in your home directory and its contents (where the * is your hostname). Please do NOT remove ~/.kde/cache-* itself (or even ~/.kde itself). Only remove the kpc directory and everything it contains. That's the pixmap/icon cache, KDE will regenerate it, hopefully in a non-corrupt way. No difference. I've removed ./kde/cache-*/kpc, logged off and logged on, but the icons did not change. Nb One of you made a typo. Kevin said .kde - you said ./kde . I made a type. I removed ~/.kde/cache-... I thought the cache dir was /var/tmp/kdecache-username/kpc ? -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
Kevin Kofler wrote: It's used too often as an explanation or excuse for simple mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes. True, but shipping KDE 4 was NOT a mistake. I didn't say it was. But it came with a few (minor) mistakes. If there are really just 5 of you, you are doing a fantastic job. Thanks. But I think you are only working 18 hours a day. Come on, you can do with less sleep than that ... -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9 update causes NetworkManager not to work wireless
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 08:51 -0500, Luis Orlindo Tedeschi wrote: I am having problems with NetworkManager and wireless network. When I installed Fedora 9 NetworkManager was working fine and able to connect to wireless networks. However, after I did the first update suggested by the OS, NetworkManager stopped being able to recognize wireless networks. I formatted and installed Fedora 9 twice to confirm the problem. I could not however identify which update is causing this problem. Anybody having the same problem? Thanks. Well, you could go to /var/log/yum.log and see what NM related updates were made. That would be my first step. -- === Hand me a pair of leather pants and a CASIO keyboard -- I'm living for today! === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 18:04 +, Kevin Kofler wrote: Craig White craigwhite at azapple.com writes: Kevin Kofler stated it clearly...the 3 Fedora developers made the decision without any input from RedHat at all. Actually we're 5: 4 packagers (Than Ngo, Rex Dieter, Lukáš Tinkl and me) and one Live CD maintainer (Sebastian Vahl) who also maintains/comaintains some packages. And there are many other participants in the KDE SIG who did some work too, for example Pavel Shevchuk (Stalwart) who did the Fedora Waves KSplash and KDM themes. Kevin Kofler I want to thank everyone for their outstanding effort. I stand in awe. Is KDE 4 perfect? No. Is it going in the right direction? I think so. I can't wait to see how it develops. Thanks again. Fred -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
CD/DVD writer
I'm using Fedora 9 on a AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core Processor BE-2350. The system (an eMachines computer) came with a CD/DVD read/write drive (Optiarc Model: DVD RW AD-7200A Rev: 1.W1). When I load a blank DVD-R in the drive, an icon appears that tells me I've got a blank DVD in the drive. I double-click the icon, and CD/DVD Creator pops up. I drag/drop files into the window and then tell it to Write to Disc. It thinks for a while, then pops up a little window with the very clear and informative message, Error! I can find no information on what the error is or what I can do about it. Thinking that the brand of CD/DVD writer was the problem, I installed an older drive that I had from a previous computer (TSSTcorp Model: CD/DVDW TS-H552B Rev: TS02). I get precisely that same results. I have also tried installing a blank CD-R. This works somewhat similar but doesn't even provide me an Error! popup. I see something pop up quickly and immediately disappear, but nothing seems to be written. I've tried this with both drives as well with identical results. After discovering my sound didn't work because of a security setting, I'm wondering if there is some security setting for writing CDs/DVDs. I've modified all my /dev files related to the two drives to rw-rw-rw-, but that doesn't seem to help. I put a DVD-RAM disk in the Optiarc drive, and I was able to copy a gob of data to it. It's unreadable by Windows, but it proves to me that the drive writes. Both drives can read CDs and DVDs without a problem. Below is the info determined by the kernel for the two drives (sr0 is the TSSTcorp drive and sr1 is the Optiarc drive). cat /proc/sys/dev/cdrom//info CD-ROM information, Id: cdrom.c 3.20 2003/12/17 drive name: sr1 sr0 drive speed:48 48 drive # of slots: 1 1 Can close tray: 1 1 Can open tray: 1 1 Can lock tray: 1 1 Can change speed: 1 1 Can select disk:0 0 Can read multisession: 1 1 Can read MCN: 1 1 Reports media changed: 1 1 Can play audio: 1 1 Can write CD-R: 1 1 Can write CD-RW:1 1 Can read DVD: 1 1 Can write DVD-R:1 1 Can write DVD-RAM: 1 0 Can read MRW: 1 1 Can write MRW: 1 1 Can write RAM: 1 1 Are there any settings or other places I should look for a problem? Is this a Fedora bug? I'll file a bug if I'm not the only one seeing this problem. Chris -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to not lock the screen
Michael Hennebry wrote: I got around to trying 1 and 2, but no joy. After exiting X, I did notice window manager complaints. I kind of fuzzy on what they were. i have yet to close kde and not have a bunch of errors show. most of them are 'error: bad window', but all windows were ok and i just dismiss them. Possibly they were the result of trying to run a gnome desktop without gnome. IIRC I didn't clickon gnome during install. fedora has gnome as default desktop. to disable gnome, you must unselect it, as well as you must select kde. 3) r r kde. I don't know how to r r KDE or anything else. I presume it doesn't mean rest and recreate. no. seaRch and destRoy? closer. remove and replace. it is possible that something was wrong in original install. this is why when i note problems in a new install, i consider that if there is 1 or 2 problems that i see, there could be more. so i will do a complete new install. usually this will fix problems. if not, i install again, but leave out a lot of manual selections for later if install looks good. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: KDE 4.0 is incomplete and not suitable for most users. Not true, it is completely usable. While the OP was over the top, there are a surprising (to me) number of minor problems with KDE-4 under Fedora-9. I'm a little surprised, too, that they haven't been sorted out sooner. Examples: 1) Stickiness of applications in the panel. When I click normally on eg my Firefox icon, nothing happens (usually). I have to hold down the button for a second, and sometimes I have to click a second time. 2) KNotify crashes when I shut down. (This has been in bugzilla for ages.) 3) Sometimes I get a ghost image on the screen in one of my desktops, which won't go away. This doesn't actually matter, as I can open a window on top of it. In spite of these minor problems, I like KDE-4 and would not revert to KDE-3 even if I could. Maybe the Fedora/KDE team could try to sort out problems a little faster? A popular but valid response is : Got any bug reports? -- Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Tom Horsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 08:22:16 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fedora made the only possible decision. That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever read. Anyone still trying to delude themselves that fedora isn't primarily a beta test for redhat enterprise? :-). Well if you think Fedora is beta testing KDE 4 for RedHat, you're stupid. -- Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 15:19 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Tom Horsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 08:22:16 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fedora made the only possible decision. That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever read. Anyone still trying to delude themselves that fedora isn't primarily a beta test for redhat enterprise? :-). Well if you think Fedora is beta testing KDE 4 for RedHat, you're stupid. Could you please take your insults and denigrations elsewhere because they're not appreciated here. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 15:19 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Tom Horsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 08:22:16 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fedora made the only possible decision. That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever read. Anyone still trying to delude themselves that fedora isn't primarily a beta test for redhat enterprise? :-). Well if you think Fedora is beta testing KDE 4 for RedHat, you're stupid. Could you please take your insults and denigrations elsewhere because they're not appreciated here. Apply some logic to that statement. -- Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: bootable failed sw raid 1 with F9
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 11:28 -0700, Brian Tillman wrote: On Jun 15, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 19:43 +0200, Sander Hoentjen wrote: Hi list, For the first time in my life i tried to install Fedora with sw raid. See below what went wrong. Here is what I did: Start with 2 empty 500GB sata disks. Make sure nvraid is turned off in my BIOS. Start an F9 install, creating 2 sw RAID partitions: md0 and md1. md0 is 100MB and has an ext3 /boot. This could be the blind leading the blind, but just raided my centos5. and was advised not to raid the /boot. as it can get confused as to waht to boot from. If you need a backup boot just rsync it to the second drive as /boot1 (or similar) Frank Although you haven't told us what went wrong (IE errors, when in the boot process your system fails ect). Not sure if you are referring to me or Brian, but I did try to tell when the errors did occur: quote It starts ok, i even get rhgb for a second and then I see: fsck.ext3: Invalid argument while trying to open /dev/md0 /quote I would highly recommend using raid on your /boot partition, this will enable you to boot should you loose a disk This is exactly why i did it like that. I would imagine that you only wrote to the MBR for one of your disks, and your bios is attempting to boot from the other. If this is the case your bios will report no operating system installed or something to that effect. Again not sure if your reply is to me, but from my email you can read this is not the case for me. Regards, Sander -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: CD/DVD writer
Chris Carlson wrote: [snip] Are there any settings or other places I should look for a problem? Is this a Fedora bug? I'll file a bug if I'm not the only one seeing this problem. You could run dmesg | less and go down to the bottom after the failure. You should see some error messages there. I have a problem with the DVDR but it is that it won't read previous disks. Work in F7, not in F9. I opened a bugzilla. Perhaps you should do the same. Chris -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE 4.0: icons go crazy.
Rex Dieter wrote: Andrea wrote: I made a type. I removed ~/.kde/cache-... I thought the cache dir was /var/tmp/kdecache-username/kpc ? -- Rex No difference this one either. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: CD/DVD writer
Chris Carlson wrote: I'm using Fedora 9 on a AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core Processor BE-2350. The system (an eMachines computer) came with a CD/DVD read/write drive (Optiarc Model: DVD RW AD-7200A Rev: 1.W1). When I load a blank DVD-R in the drive, an icon appears that tells me I've got a blank DVD in the drive. I double-click the icon, and CD/DVD Creator pops up. I drag/drop files into the window and then tell it to Write to Disc. It thinks for a while, then pops up a little window with the very clear and informative message, Error! I can find no information on what the error is or what I can do about it. You are going through multiple layers of voodoo here to put a GUI interface on burning, which also seems to hide what's really going on. If you want to actually run the commands and see what error messages they produce, you will probably see the problem. To create an ISO image suitable for burning: mkisofs -o /tmp/test.iso -RU some_one_GB_directory growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/tmp/test.iso The first command should create an image ready to burn, and the second should do the burn. Report back. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE 4.0: icons go crazy.
Andrea mariofutire at googlemail.com writes: Let me get it right. Some of the themes I find in the System Settings of KDE 4 are known not to work with KDE 4? CrystalSVG will probably not work for KDE 4 as long as we don't find a way to make it work for both KDE 3 and 4. Right now there's no version which fully works with KDE 4 anyway. The other icon themes in kdeartwork are being migrated to the new naming scheme, but the renaming isn't complete yet, so they don't work with KDE 4 yet. Most third-party KDE icon themes are also for KDE 3 only. Why are they there? Because there's no way to programmatically figure out what desktops the icon theme was designed for. That's why we have the icon-naming-spec now. Some history: there was at first a specification for how to name icon themes and how to structure the directories. Both KDE and GNOME followed that specification, however the problem was that the actual icon names were not standardized. So you could in principle select a KDE theme in GNOME and the opposite, but it wouldn't actually work properly. Current versions of GNOME and now also KDE 4 use a new standardized naming (icon-naming-spec). However, the specification for how to structure the themes is still the same, so we can't programmatically distinguish between the old and new themes. An additional problem is that KDE 4 is the first desktop to implement the fallback mechanism in the icon-naming-spec, where the first alternative for an icon named foo-bar.png (before looking in other themes for the icon) is foo.png in the default icon theme. This is why KDE 4 handles nonstandard themes particularly badly (you'll get unfitting generic icons), older desktops just falled back to the default theme in such cases (KDE 4 can do that too, but only if there isn't a more generic icon in the theme you selected, and unfortunately the old KDE 3 icon names are usually just one word, so they often get accidentally picked up as fallbacks, e.g. edit.png gets used for any missing edit-*.png). How do I know which ones are good? You have to read the documentation for the icon theme to see what it supports. There are few themes which support KDE 3, KDE 4 and GNOME at once, one such theme is the Bluecurve theme (bluecurve-icon-theme), though it doesn't include 22×22 icons, only 24×24, so the icon rendering in KDE 4 is suboptimal. You may have some success with icon-naming-spec-compliant icon themes designed originally for GNOME. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE 4.0: icons go crazy.
Rex Dieter rdieter at math.unl.edu writes: I thought the cache dir was /var/tmp/kdecache-username/kpc ? ~/.kde/cache-hostname is (usually) a symlink to /var/tmp/kdecache-username. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: tr problem
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 14:10 -0400, Thompson Freeman wrote: Not familiar with 'em', I was stuck on using 'SOS' on an overloaded PDP-10. It might not have been the same 'nroff' but the name was the same. I was at least subsidized to use the Calcomp drum plotter. 'em' (Editor for Mortals) was an extended version of 'ed' written by George Coulouris at Queen Mary College, London. It had in-line interactive editing! (just one line at a time, mind, no sense going overboard). As using 'ed' has been compared to playing blindfold chess, this was quite an advance for the mid-70's. George actually came up to Edinburgh and installed it on our PDP 11/45 from a paper tape! IIRC, the folklore has it that 'em' gave Bill Joy some ideas which he used in 'ex' and then in 'vi'. BTW I also suffered under SOS, and TECO. The horror, the horror ... poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
