Re: [Echo] system-file-manager icons draft

2008-06-22 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Martin Sourada a écrit :
 Just a few quick comments:
  * make the gradients subtler
  * try add more contrast between fills and outlines
  * add shadow a little behind the drawer as well
   
Done
  * perhaps try brown as the main colour?
   
Check the new version
  * recheck align to grid in  16x16 icons, at first sight their outlines
 seem slightly blurry
   
Set outline distant to 0.5px. These icons should display correctly. I
left outline to grey colours to see how it works. Otherwise, I will set
to brown.


Luya


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Re: [Echo] system-file-manager icons draft

2008-06-22 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 00:30 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
 Martin Sourada a écrit :
  Just a few quick comments:
   * make the gradients subtler
   * try add more contrast between fills and outlines
   * add shadow a little behind the drawer as well

 Done
Good, perhaps the shadow might be a little better. Can you try using
similar shadow to that in package-x-generic?

   * perhaps try brown as the main colour?

 Check the new version
   * recheck align to grid in  16x16 icons, at first sight their outlines
  seem slightly blurry

 Set outline distant to 0.5px. These icons should display correctly. I
 left outline to grey colours to see how it works. Otherwise, I will set
 to brown.
 
I'd definitely set it to brown. The grey-brown combination looks a
little strange. As for the outline width, I'd keep 0.75 px and rather
modify the shape a little to fit into pixel grid with vertical lines.

 
 Luya
 
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Re: [Echo] system-file-manager icons draft

2008-06-22 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Martin Sourada a écrit :
 Good, perhaps the shadow might be a little better. Can you try using
 similar shadow to that in package-x-generic?
   

It should display fine now using blur and gradient on shadow area.
 I'd definitely set it to brown. The grey-brown combination looks a
 little strange. As for the outline width, I'd keep 0.75 px and rather
 modify the shape a little to fit into pixel grid with vertical lines.
   
Outline set to 0.75 px and switched to brown colour.


Luya

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Re: [Echo] system-file-manager icons draft

2008-06-22 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 02:50 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
 Martin Sourada a écrit : 
  Good, perhaps the shadow might be a little better. Can you try using
  similar shadow to that in package-x-generic?

  
 It should display fine now using blur and gradient on shadow area.
  I'd definitely set it to brown. The grey-brown combination looks a
  little strange. As for the outline width, I'd keep 0.75 px and rather
  modify the shape a little to fit into pixel grid with vertical lines.

 Outline set to 0.75 px and switched to brown colour.
 
Definitely looks better. To me it looks nearly OK. I only noticed that
it's still not perfectly aligned to pixel grid (or at least it seems so,
I haven't checked the SVGs yet) - vertical lines seem a little blurry.
You might also want to add more contrast between outlines and fills in
the smaller icons to better define the shape.

And one idea - perhaps try different colour/style for the handles? It's
fine as it's now, but it could perhaps be better, but if you don't think
so, just leave them as they are now ;-)

 
 Luya
 
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Re: [Echo] system-file-manager icons draft

2008-06-22 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 13:11 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
 On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 02:50 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
  Martin Sourada a écrit : 
   Good, perhaps the shadow might be a little better. Can you try using
   similar shadow to that in package-x-generic?
 
   
  It should display fine now using blur and gradient on shadow area.
   I'd definitely set it to brown. The grey-brown combination looks a
   little strange. As for the outline width, I'd keep 0.75 px and rather
   modify the shape a little to fit into pixel grid with vertical lines.
 
  Outline set to 0.75 px and switched to brown colour.
  
 Definitely looks better. To me it looks nearly OK. I only noticed that
 it's still not perfectly aligned to pixel grid (or at least it seems so,
 I haven't checked the SVGs yet) - vertical lines seem a little blurry.
 You might also want to add more contrast between outlines and fills in
 the smaller icons to better define the shape.

OK, I went ahead and fixed the 48x48 and 16x16 versions. As I suspected,
the 48x48 one was about 0.5 px off in x direction, so moving the drawer
a little to the left helped to fix the alignment. I also did some
further fixes to problems I noticed in the SVG and/or improvements:
 
 * added gradient to outlines so that at the bottom of the icon the
contrast between outline and fill is still non-zero
 * slightly edited the shadow as I liked it
 * minor fix to cases fills size and handles size/position
 * played a little with the outlines width

Would be good if you made similar fixes to the other sizes (22x22 and
32x32; 24x24 can be created in gimp from 22x22 by adding 1px wide
transparent border to it). 

Martin
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Re: Echo Icons Tutorial - Working with Git

2008-06-22 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 00:36 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
 On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 11:32 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
  Martin,
  
 Hi Paul,
 
  Would you be inclined to make a Fedora wiki page out of this?  It could
  be a lot of help to all the non-developer communities in Fedora that
  want to make use of git in their project work.  For instance, the Fedora
  Docs team is going to move guides and tutorials to individual hosted
  projects, and git seems like the way to go if we get to choose our SCM
  from the beginning.
  
 First let me apologize for the late reply - due to rather hasty days,
 this somehow slipped my mind... I'll have some spare time starting next
 week (probably at Saturday), so I'd perhaps make the Fedora wiki page by
 then. I am not sure however, where is the best place to put such wiki
 page onto?

It's quite up to you, but I could suggest:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Git_for_Nondevelopers 

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Re: [Echo] system-file-manager icons draft

2008-06-22 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Martin Sourada a écrit :
 Would be good if you made similar fixes to the other sizes (22x22 and
 32x32; 24x24 can be created in gimp from 22x22 by adding 1px wide
 transparent border to it). 

 Martin
   

Done. Checkout http://luya.fedorapeople.org/echo/applications/

Luya

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[Bug 13416] Font subfamilies merged

2008-06-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13416


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Using a single family for all its different faces is fine.
Not being able to distinguish between them afterwards is not


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[Bug 445279] Review Request: brettfont-fonts - A handwriting font

2008-06-22 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: Review Request: brettfont-fonts - A handwriting font


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[Bug 13416] Font subfamilies merged

2008-06-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13416





--- Comment #5 from Julian Sikorski [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-22 13:25:26 
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I was trying various applications and so far only Firefox (3.0) was able to
display Arial Narrow properly:
http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/Font/fonts-comps-narrow.html
Not sure if this information brings any value, though. OpenOffice.org, Abiword,
Gnome and KDE font selectors are broken. Maybe Firefox uses some tricks to
solve this issue? This is likely, since the site mentioned above defaults to
monospace for Arial Narrow in Konqueror.


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[Issue 43029] support PS-OpenType/OTF/(SFNT with CFF) fonts for PDF export and printing

2008-06-22 Thread simos
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[Bug 450810] Incorrect width of slash '/' in default Korean font.

2008-06-22 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: Incorrect width of slash '/' in default Korean font.


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Ricky will be Vacationing

2008-06-22 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2008-06-22 11:41:35 AM, seth vidal wrote:
 me too. But I'll be back on June 30th. I should have network access
 where I am but I intend to not use it :)
I guess now's a good time to mention that I'll be gone from 2008-06-28
until 2008-07-05 (with no internet access).  

Have fun,
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Re: Mike is not Vacationing

2008-06-22 Thread Mike McGrath
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Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-22 Thread Ed Greshko

g wrote:


in a free world without fences, who needs gates.


I thing this should read:

In a free world without fences, who needs Gates.
:-)

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Re: How to boot from floppy to install Fedora 9 from CD?

2008-06-22 Thread cjakeman
Hi Les and Tom,

Thanks for your advice.

I've tried http://en.opensuse.org/Install_on_PC_that_can't_boot_from_CD [1] but 
couldn't make it load from the CD.

Although 7 years old, the PC is 1.3GHz and 256MB so it should cope. However, I 
only want it to run a webserver, so perhaps I should go for a smaller distro.

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Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-22 Thread g

Ed Greshko wrote:

I thing this should read:

In a free world without fences, who needs Gates.


i will 'shift+g' for God, but never for bill. ;o)


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Re: How to boot from floppy to install Fedora 9 from CD?

2008-06-22 Thread g

cjakeman wrote:

Although 7 years old, the PC is 1.3GHz and 256MB so it should cope.
However, I only want it to run a webserver, so perhaps I should go
for a smaller distro.


i have moved 'old mail' of this system, so i can not check,
have you given thought to upgrading your bios?

a newer bios should give you both cd and usb boot ability.
then, depending on how you run web server, you may need to
increase memory.



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Re: How to boot from floppy to install Fedora 9 from CD?

2008-06-22 Thread Les Mikesell

cjakeman wrote:

Hi Les and Tom,

Thanks for your advice.

I've tried http://en.opensuse.org/Install_on_PC_that_can't_boot_from_CD [1] but 
couldn't make it load from the CD.

Although 7 years old, the PC is 1.3GHz and 256MB so it should cope. However, I 
only want it to run a webserver, so perhaps I should go for a smaller distro.



There are other floppy boot loaders around that you could try, but I'd 
recommend Centos 3.x as a better match for the machine.  It should have 
a floppy boot image and security/bugfix updates are still continuing.


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Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-22 Thread Francis Earl
 Actually, I find that greatly ironic, as I switched temporarily to openSUSE 
 because IMO Fedora isn't moving fast ENOUGH for my taste.  

I too did this briefly, but they can't even keep their mirrors
operational on release day, and the system gets in your way entirely too
much, so I'm back...

 I really really 
 want to run KDE 4.1 (which IS most definitely usable as a desktop, and a 
 rather excellent one I might add)

I disagree for many uses of usable. It lacks entirely too much still
(4.00.82) for my liking. It's currently worse than Gnome for hiding
features and the like... I truly despise what I've seen of their
current direction, and there is now truly nothing that seperates KDE
from anything else. QGTKStyle ensures the apps will look native in
Gnome too, so I think I've lost interest in KDE entirely.

 Actually, the whole KDE argument was bound to be brought up.

I really don't understand it at all honestly. Fedora is about forward
looking software, why would it continue to support software that is no
longer maintained? If you really want KDE3, just set up a repo in Koji
and be done with it. Supporting KDE3 when there is KDE4 is _exactly_ the
sort of thing that is APPEALING about Fedora. KDE3 is getting _very_
little maintenance since KDE4 was released, so it would add even more of
a burden on developers. If you disagree with the rationale, go find a
distro that still has it! 

The KDE team will hate me for saying this, but what kind of respectable
KDE user uses a non-KDE distro anyways? The man-power behind KDE on
Fedora is pathetic - and I honestly hope it doesn't get better. Fedora
is a Gnome distro, and new features are considered with Gnome in mind.
KDE doesn't even have any type of SELinux support, so the leading reason
for using Fedora isn't even applicable for it... this isn't going to
change either, the bulk of KDE based distros are using AppArmor.

Before you rebuff this with You're a Gnome zealot blah blah blah, I
was a KDE zealot for about 5 years, I just got sick of all the memory
leaks (kio_http and kio_file mostly) and the constant breakages. This
still hasn't been fixed. After about 10 days of using KDE, _all_ of my
RAM is always used (2 gigs), that is unacceptable, especially when 1.2
gigs is resident RAM. Makes it hard to do other useful things like run a
web server etc... not to mention having hard drives spinning due to swap
is _loud_.

(this post isn't directed entirely at yourself, just in general at this
thread)

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Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-22 Thread Tim
[Tim wrote about sound mixing]

Patrick O'Callaghan:
 Totally agree with this. It's hard enough even figuring out what the
 various mixer controls even control.

David Boles:
 It is a choice. If you, either of you, do not like it you should disable it.
 But I seriously doubt that Pulseaudio will 'just go away' because you don't
 like it.  ;-)

What I wrote was less about pulse audio, per se, but the whole idea of
sound mixing, with or without it.  Pulse audio gives you individual
volume levels, but really they're controlled from the wrong place.  Alsa
is somewhat similar.

I see the value of being able to call up a mixer, and adjust levels.
But let that be a remote.  So if you adjust volume on your CD player,
it's the *same* as adjusting it on the mixer (not two interactive
controls - have the same control in two places).  Pulse audio comes into
it's own when you do something like turn the sound down on your ogg
player, and only the ogg player, you don't adjust all the PCM devices,
or screw around with the master control.  But, again, the volume control
on the player should be the *same* control that you get to play with on
the mixer panel.

And quite why we have two messily interdependent volume control mixer
thingoes is beyond me (on Gnome, at least).  We have the volume control
thing, that we've been used to over the last few years, plus the pulse
audio volume controller.  And both need playing with to hear sound.
Which is made all the more harder by pulse audio's controls disappearing
and appearing, depending on whether your audio software is currently
playing, or not.

And going back to something I touched on in my original message, the
average set of system annunciators are stupidly created, anyway.  Yes,
you probably do want a loud red alert sound file for big warnings and
emergencies.  But you want much softer dings and beeps for things like
incoming messages, and okay responses.

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Re: How to boot from floppy to install Fedora 9 from CD?

2008-06-22 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 08:29 +0200, cjakeman wrote:
 Although 7 years old, the PC is 1.3GHz and 256MB so it should cope.

I'd be surprised that a PC that fast was built before booting from
CD-ROMs was a supported feature.

What have you done to try and boot from the CD?

Have you gone through the BIOS and looked for boot options?  Perhaps a
different CD drive will work better?  (Boot drive order, configuring IDE
ports to recognise that a CD is connected to one, etc.)

Have you burnt the disc in a manner that it can be booted from?  (Try it
on another PC, you can boot it without upsetting anything on the hard
drive, simply don't start installing.)

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Re: ssh tunnel problems

2008-06-22 Thread Tim
Tim:
 You're playing with the local loopback device.  127.0.0.1 is the
 traditional IP address for it, and localhost is the traditional
 hostname for it.

Patrick O'Callaghan:
 Not just traditional, it's a required standard (the IP at least).

On a variety of systems, 127.0.0.x (where x can be almost anything) also
works the same way.  On this box, x can be 1 to 255, for pinging, at
least.  Actually, on this box, for 127.x.y.z, x, y,  z can all be
played with, and are still on the local loopback device.

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Re: ssh tunnel problems

2008-06-22 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 19:34 -0400, Rick Bilonick wrote:
 What on the work server could be preventing the reverse tunnel from
 working? On the server I do use hosts.allow to only allow ssh from my
 home computer. Could this possibly prevent the reverse tunnel from
 working? Or is the problem on my home computer?

Firewalling?  But we can only guess without detailed information about
the network configuration, on both sides.

I would still try completely avoiding referring to localhost, anywhere.
It's awfully confusing trying to follow your steps, and I can forsee you
getting tangled in a knot.

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Re: emacs curiosity

2008-06-22 Thread Matthew Saltzman

On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 19:58 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
 On two different fedora 8 systems now, I have done a
 yum update, then the next time I started emacs, I've
 had it error off during initialization with a message
 about regular expression too big.
 
 If I attempt to reproduce the problem, I find emacs
 starts up perfectly OK on the next try.
 
 If I look in /var/log/yum.log, I don't see any updates
 that appear to be remotely related to emacs.
 
 Anyone have a clue what the heck is going on here?
 I'm just curious. Since it fixes itself, it is no
 big deal I guess :-).

Saw that here, too.  No idea what it was...

 
 
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Re: OT How to get National Public Radio FM on Rythmbox

2008-06-22 Thread Matthew Saltzman

On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 23:56 -0400, William Case wrote:
 Hi -- particularly to my American friends.
 
 Does anybody know how to get National Public Radio (NPR) as a feed on
 Rythmbox.  I am new to using Radio + computer and I would like to add a
 NPR station to my list of stations.  But I can't seem to find an
 Internet feed.  Maybe it doesn't exist, but if someone knows how to get
 any (North Easteren US -- I'm in Ottawa, Canada) FM station I would
 appreciate it.

http://www.npr.org/audiohelp/progstream.html

There's also a list of NPR stations at http://www.npr.org/stations/.
You could stream any of those.

 
 
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special ftp server configuration

2008-06-22 Thread Martin Jürgens
Hi,

i'm searching a ftp server which i can configure to do this:

user a: write access to ftpdir and ftpdir/income
user b: read access to ftpdir, write access to ftpdir/income

I'd be glad if someone could give me a hint on how to realize it a slick
way. I know some windows servers like filezilla with which realizing
such situations is no problem, but I sadly do not have an idea on how to
do this with linux, although I am neither a google- nor a a
configuration-file hater ;)

Thanks for your help,

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Re: OT How to get National Public Radio FM on Rythmbox

2008-06-22 Thread fred smith
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 11:56:40PM -0400, William Case wrote:
 Hi -- particularly to my American friends.
 
 Does anybody know how to get National Public Radio (NPR) as a feed on
 Rythmbox.  I am new to using Radio + computer and I would like to add a
 NPR station to my list of stations.  But I can't seem to find an
 Internet feed.  Maybe it doesn't exist, but if someone knows how to get
 any (North Easteren US -- I'm in Ottawa, Canada) FM station I would
 appreciate it.

I'm not aware of a direct feed that is only NPR programming. But that
doesn't mean there isn't one. You may want to check npr.org for a 
listing of stations.

Locally (in Boston area) there's wgbh.org and wbur.org, both of which
carry some NPR programming.

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Mirrors(?) for local repo

2008-06-22 Thread Frank Murphy
How do you know the correct mirrors for rsync a local repo.
Is it by the biggest bandwidth one chooses,
or just the closest geographically?


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Re: special ftp server configuration

2008-06-22 Thread Tim
Martin Jürgens:
 I know some windows servers like filezilla with which realizing
 such situations is no problem, but I sadly do not have an idea on how
 to do this with linux

Filezilla's not just for Windows, but it's a client not a server.  Were
you thinking of something else?

FileZilla - The free FTP solution http://filezilla-project.org/
Open Source (GNU/GPL) FTP client for Windows, Mac OS X and GNU/Linux.

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Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-22 Thread Marcelo Magno T. Sales
Em Domingo 22 Junho 2008, Kelly Miller escreveu:
  And don't give me the crap that Fedora is bleeding edge software.  
  F9 is beyond bleeding, its suicidal.

 Actually, I find that greatly ironic, as I switched temporarily to
 openSUSE because IMO Fedora isn't moving fast ENOUGH for my taste.  I
 really really want to run KDE 4.1 (which IS most definitely usable as
 a desktop, and a rather excellent one I might add), but Fedora only
 has it in Rawhide, and uh... Rawhide blows up way too often for my
 liking.  I'm probably going to switch back to Fedora when KDE 4.1 is
 finally released for Fedora 9.

KDE 4.0.83 is available for Fedora in kde-redhat unstable repo. It works 
quite well.

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Re: special ftp server configuration

2008-06-22 Thread Martin Jürgens
Hi,

  I know some windows servers like filezilla with which realizing
  such situations is no problem, but I sadly do not have an idea on how
  to do this with linux
 
 Filezilla's not just for Windows, but it's a client not a server.  Were
 you thinking of something else?

They also develop a FileZilla FTP-Server which is Windows-Only: 
http://filezilla-project.org/download.php?type=server, which offers the options 
I'd like to have.


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Re: Mirrors(?) for local repo

2008-06-22 Thread David Boles

Frank Murphy wrote:

How do you know the correct mirrors for rsync a local repo.
Is it by the biggest bandwidth one chooses,
or just the closest geographically?



Closest does not necessarily mean 'fastest'. And not all mirrors support rsync.

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Re: Mirrors(?) for local repo

2008-06-22 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 08:07 -0400, David Boles wrote:
 Frank Murphy wrote:
  How do you know the correct mirrors for rsync a local repo.
  Is it by the biggest bandwidth one chooses,
  or just the closest geographically?
 
 
 Closest does not necessarily mean 'fastest'. And not all mirrors support 
 rsync.
 

I'm looking at the mirrors page, put how to choose?

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Re: Mirrors(?) for local repo

2008-06-22 Thread David Boles

Frank Murphy wrote:

On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 08:07 -0400, David Boles wrote:

Frank Murphy wrote:

How do you know the correct mirrors for rsync a local repo.
Is it by the biggest bandwidth one chooses,
or just the closest geographically?


Closest does not necessarily mean 'fastest'. And not all mirrors support rsync.



I'm looking at the mirrors page, put how to choose?



Look at the sites that list rsync and then look at the ones that have the 
highest bandwidth. Then read the comments on the far right.


The FedoraUnity Fedora 9 everything spins are 24 CDs or 4 DVDs. So if that is 
what you intend to do you have a lot to download. I still don't understand why.


You do understand how rsync works correct? The first time you download 
*everything* you will do just that. Download *everything*. And since the 
'everything' folder does not change you will not get anything new from there.


The only folder that would change for you is the Fedora 9 updates folder.

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Re: OT How to get National Public Radio FM on Rythmbox

2008-06-22 Thread Max Pyziur

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008, William Case wrote:


Hi -- particularly to my American friends.

Does anybody know how to get National Public Radio (NPR) as a feed on
Rythmbox.  I am new to using Radio + computer and I would like to add a
NPR station to my list of stations.  But I can't seem to find an
Internet feed.  Maybe it doesn't exist, but if someone knows how to get
any (North Easteren US -- I'm in Ottawa, Canada) FM station I would
appreciate it.


I think that this is controlled by the local stations which receive NPR 
feeds. For New York City NPR feeds, you can find the Internet radio links 
on WNYC's home page (http://www.nyc.org/) in the left column.


Copy the link (right-click - Copy Link Address) in the web browser, and 
then in Rhythmbox Music - New Internet Radio Station and past the link in 
the Dialog box.


Relatedly, you can find European Internet radio stations here:
http://www.listenlive.eu/

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Re: Mirrors(?) for local repo

2008-06-22 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 08:32 -0400, David Boles wrote:
 Frank Murphy wrote:
  On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 08:07 -0400, David Boles wrote:
  Frank Murphy wrote:
  How do you know the correct mirrors for rsync a local repo.
  Is it by the biggest bandwidth one chooses,
  or just the closest geographically?
 
  Closest does not necessarily mean 'fastest'. And not all mirrors support 
  rsync.
 
  
  I'm looking at the mirrors page, put how to choose?
 
 
 Look at the sites that list rsync and then look at the ones that have the 
 highest bandwidth. Then read the comments on the far right.
 
 The FedoraUnity Fedora 9 everything spins are 24 CDs or 4 DVDs. So if that is 
 what you intend to do you have a lot to download. I still don't understand 
 why.
 
 You do understand how rsync works correct? The first time you download 
 *everything* you will do just that. Download *everything*. And since the 
 'everything' folder does not change you will not get anything new from there.
 
 The only folder that would change for you is the Fedora 9 updates folder.


I'm looking into rsync on the centos list (which I've joined) to get
some pointers in case it's a tweaked verison for it. 
To use maybe excludes if possible for packages that would never be in
use here (home-lan).

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Trouble installing/compiling the Marvell sky98lin on F8

2008-06-22 Thread Ubence Quevedo
Hi All,

I am having problems installing the Marvell sky98lin driver on a 32-BIT F8 Core 
2 Duo system.  I have the kernel source installed like the instructions 
recommend, but whenever the installer gets to the module creation part it fails.

Here is the contents of the install.log file from the failed install:

+++ Install mode: User
+++ Driver version: 10.60.2.3 (Apr-28-2008)
+++ Kernel version 2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686
+++ smp_count=1
+++ cpu_number=2
+++ kernel_machine=i686
+++ Architecture: i386
+++ modpost available
+++ Unpack the sources
+++ 
+++ tar xfv sk98lin.tar
2.4/
2.4/skdim.c
2.4/sky2.c
2.4/skethtool.c
2.4/Makefile
2.4/skge.c
2.4/h/
2.4/h/skdrv1st.h
2.4/h/skdrv2nd.h
2.4/skproc.c
2.6/
2.6/skdim.c
2.6/sky2.c
2.6/skethtool.c
2.6/Makefile
2.6/skge.c
2.6/h/
2.6/h/skdrv1st.h
2.6/h/skdrv2nd.h
2.6/skproc.c
common/
common/skgehwt.c
common/skgeasf.c
common/sk98lin.htm
common/skgeinit.c
common/sktwsi.c
common/skvpd.c
common/sky2le.c
common/sk98lin.4
common/skfops.c
common/skgespilole.c
common/skgeasfconv.c
common/skgemib.c
common/skaddr.c
common/skcsum.c
common/skgepnmi.c
common/vpdcheck.c
common/sklm80.c
common/skqueue.c
common/sktimer.c
common/skrlmt.c
common/skgespi.c
common/skxmac2.c
common/skgesirq.c
common/h/
common/h/sktypes.h
common/h/skpcidevid.h
common/h/skqueue.h
common/h/skrlmt.h
common/h/skgepnm2.h
common/h/skgeasfconv.h
common/h/skaddr.h
common/h/skdebug.h
common/h/mvyexhw.h
common/h/skgehw.h
common/h/skgehwt.h
common/h/skfops.h
common/h/sktimer.h
common/h/skgepnmi.h
common/h/skvpd.h
common/h/skgetwsi.h
common/h/skerror.h
common/h/sktwsi.h
common/h/skcsum.h
common/h/skversion.h
common/h/xmac_ii.h
common/h/sky2le.h
common/h/skgeasf.h
common/h/skgespi.h
common/h/skgeinit.h
common/h/skgesirq.h
common/h/lm80.h
common/h/skgedrv.h
common/sk98lin.txt
misc/
misc/Kconfig
misc/Configure.help

+++ Compile the driver
+++ 
make: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686'
  CC [M]  /tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.o
  CC [M]  /tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/sky2.o
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c: In function ‘sk98lin_init_device’:
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:483: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘poll’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:484: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘weight’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:489: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘poll’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:490: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘weight’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:611: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘poll’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:612: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘weight’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:617: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘poll’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:618: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘weight’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c: In function ‘SkGeIsr’:
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:2342: error: too few arguments to 
function ‘netif_rx_schedule_prep’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:2345: error: too few arguments to 
function ‘__netif_rx_schedule’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c: In function ‘SkGeIsrOnePort’:
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:2513: error: too few arguments to 
function ‘netif_rx_schedule_prep’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:2518: error: too few arguments to 
function ‘__netif_rx_schedule’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c: In function ‘SkGePoll’:
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:3277: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘quota’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:3277: warning: type defaults to ‘int’ 
in declaration of ‘_y’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:3277: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘quota’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:3298: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘quota’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:3302: error: too few arguments to 
function ‘netif_rx_complete’
make[1]: *** [/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/sky2.c: In function ‘SkY2Isr’:
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/sky2.c:428: error: implicit declaration of 
function ‘__netif_rx_schedule_prep’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/sky2.c:429: error: too few arguments to 
function ‘__netif_rx_schedule’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/sky2.c: In function ‘SkY2Poll’:
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/sky2.c:665: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘quota’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/sky2.c:665: warning: type defaults to ‘int’ 
in declaration of ‘_y’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/sky2.c:665: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘quota’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/sky2.c:672: error: 

linux - scientific

2008-06-22 Thread g

anyone using scientificlinux and comments about experience? (other than it
is 'enterprise')


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Re: OT How to get National Public Radio FM on Rythmbox

2008-06-22 Thread William Case
Hi all and thanks;

On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 05:21 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
 On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 23:56 -0400, William Case wrote:
  Hi -- particularly to my American friends.
  
  Does anybody know how to get National Public Radio (NPR) as a feed on
  Rythmbox.  I am new to using Radio + computer and I would like to add a
  NPR station to my list of stations.  But I can't seem to find an
  Internet feed.  Maybe it doesn't exist, but if someone knows how to get
  any (North Easteren US -- I'm in Ottawa, Canada) FM station I would
  appreciate it.
 
 http://www.npr.org/audiohelp/progstream.html
 
 There's also a list of NPR stations at http://www.npr.org/stations/.
 You could stream any of those.

I had gone to http://www.npr.org/stations/ and tried border cities, but
none of them seemed what I remembered.  A lot of their own programming.

I had visited my sister in Maine a couple of years ago and she had some
(I don't know which) NPR station streaming to her computer.  It was
always on low in the background.  It was perfect for listening while
working.

Loved the car guys. 

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Re: OT How to get National Public Radio FM on Rythmbox

2008-06-22 Thread Bob Goodwin USA

William Case wrote:

Hi all and thanks;

On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 05:21 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
  

On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 23:56 -0400, William Case wrote:


Hi -- particularly to my American friends.

Does anybody know how to get National Public Radio (NPR) as a feed on
Rythmbox.  I am new to using Radio + computer and I would like to add a
NPR station to my list of stations.  But I can't seem to find an
Internet feed.  Maybe it doesn't exist, but if someone knows how to get
any (North Easteren US -- I'm in Ottawa, Canada) FM station I would
appreciate it.
  

http://www.npr.org/audiohelp/progstream.html

There's also a list of NPR stations at http://www.npr.org/stations/.
You could stream any of those.



I had gone to http://www.npr.org/stations/ and tried border cities, but
none of them seemed what I remembered.  A lot of their own programming.

I had visited my sister in Maine a couple of years ago and she had some
(I don't know which) NPR station streaming to her computer.  It was
always on low in the background.  It was perfect for listening while
working.

Loved the car guys. 
  

http://www.cartalk.com/Radio/Show/online.html



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Re: Mirrors(?) for local repo

2008-06-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 13:13:29 +0100,
  Frank Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 08:07 -0400, David Boles wrote:
  Frank Murphy wrote:
   How do you know the correct mirrors for rsync a local repo.
   Is it by the biggest bandwidth one chooses,
   or just the closest geographically?
  
  
  Closest does not necessarily mean 'fastest'. And not all mirrors support 
  rsync.
  
 
 I'm looking at the mirrors page, put how to choose?

That depends on what you need. First off they need to mirroring what you
need. The various mirrors mirror different subsets of Fedora stuff.
You also may care about how up to date the mirrors are. Some are better
than daily, others seem to do updates on the order of weekly.
Also you may care about bandwidth if you need downloads to occur rapidly.
You also probably want to get data from a mirror that is geographicly close
as that is likely to be more efficient. Another consideration is using
internet2. If you are at an internet2 site, you probably want to pull from
a mirror on internet2.
And lastly, mirrors provide data by rsync, ftp and/or http, but many only
provide data via a subset of those protocols.

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Re: Mirrors(?) for local repo

2008-06-22 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 12:55 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
 How do you know the correct mirrors for rsync a local repo.
 Is it by the biggest bandwidth one chooses,
 or just the closest geographically?

Hi Frank,

What I did was go through all the mirrored sites (at least the ones
geographically closer, as in north america, south america, etc..) and
tried rsync to see which ones allowed it.  Then those that did, I just
did a quick test to see how fast the downloads were (of course, they
could be faster or slower at different times, but you get an idea).
Once you have the fastest, setup your script/whatever to use that mirror
and start your download.  If your going to rsync updates/testing/rawhide
then you might want to check into that mirror or another (email the
admins of the server) and see how often they sync up so you can set
yours around that.


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Re: special ftp server configuration

2008-06-22 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 13:29 +0200, Martin Jürgens wrote:
 Hi,
 
 i'm searching a ftp server which i can configure to do this:
 
 user a: write access to ftpdir and ftpdir/income
 user b: read access to ftpdir, write access to ftpdir/income
 
 I'd be glad if someone could give me a hint on how to realize it a slick
 way. I know some windows servers like filezilla with which realizing
 such situations is no problem, but I sadly do not have an idea on how to
 do this with linux, although I am neither a google- nor a a
 configuration-file hater ;)

Can't you just create groups per access for each dir and list the users
in those groups?

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OAFIID:GNOME_NotificationAreaApplet

2008-06-22 Thread James Corteciano
Hi All,

I am using Fedora 9 and default Gnome version. Every time I've log-in, I'd
received the following a pop-up error message:


The panel encountered a problem while loading
OAFIID:GNOME_NotificationAreaApplet


Anyone how to fix this problem?

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Re: Downloading everything under .../Everything .../Fedora

2008-06-22 Thread Thomas Cameron

On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 13:24 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
 What is the best method to download everything under
 the ../Everything .../Fedora from one of the mirrors wget?
 waht options
 
 Need the F9 stuff for testing.
 
 
 Frank
 

See http://docs.fedoraproject.org/mirror/en/sn-planning-and-setup.html
for some examples of how to do this.

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Re: special ftp server configuration

2008-06-22 Thread stan

Martin Jürgens wrote:

Hi,

i'm searching a ftp server which i can configure to do this:

user a: write access to ftpdir and ftpdir/income
user b: read access to ftpdir, write access to ftpdir/income

I'd be glad if someone could give me a hint on how to realize it a slick
way. I know some windows servers like filezilla with which realizing
such situations is no problem, but I sadly do not have an idea on how to
do this with linux, although I am neither a google- nor a a
configuration-file hater ;)

Thanks for your help,

Martin



  
I haven't done it, but you should be able to do this on a binary split 
basis with vsftpd.  Do   man vsftpd.conf   and look at the ftp_user and 
guest_user descriptions.  You can give them different abilities, so the 
people you want to have restricted write ability become anonymous 
ftp_users (still with password), and the people you want to have full 
write ability become guest users.  It doesn't appear to support per user 
permissions, though there is something in the man about allowing people 
who have permissions on a directory to alter it.  Maybe you can create 
users for your function, give them the permissions you want, and have 
your user a and b login with the created roles.  You'd have to play 
around, I haven't.


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kde-redhat

2008-06-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
I realize this may be a difficult question to answer, but I'll ask it
anyway: if I use the kde-redhat repo, am I likely to have problems with
the official Fedora versions of KDE?

poc

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Re: linux - scientific

2008-06-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

g wrote:

anyone using scientificlinux and comments about experience? (other than it
is 'enterprise')




Hi, not scientificlinux, but Rocksclusters, a cluster linux (its a 
derivate from CentOS).


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F9 install onto LVM on RAID1 on RAID5

2008-06-22 Thread Richard Michael
Hello list,

I am trying to install a new F9 system onto a RAID/LVM setup.

As anaconda doesn't let me create the RAID/LVM configuration I require,
I created these devices using mdadm and lvm in the shell during
installation.  I then created the filesystems and swap space, with
labels, in the LVM volume group and I can mount them, read, write, etc..
So all is well with the underlying setup.

However, returning to the install's custom layout partitioning page,
anaconda displays the volume group and the names and sizes of the
members are correct, but in the TYPE colume it indicates foreign and
the mount point, and other fields are empty.

If I click LVM or highlight one of the members and click Edit (to
set the mount points and formatting options), anaconda responds with:

--
Not enough physical volumes 
(...)
Create a partition or RAID array of type physical volume (LVM)
and click LVM again.
--

Consequently, I cannot edit the member details to set mount points and
formatting options and continue with the installation.

How does anaconda determine the type of a RAID array; do md devices
have types (as partitions do)?  How can I satisfy it there are indeed
physical volumes for an LVM (and that I have already configured them)?

Alternately, how can I definitely tell anaconda to simply skip all
partitioning and let me tell it which /dev entries to use for whichever
partitions?


Details
===

There are four disks in the system, I will add three more.  The
intention is the have a mirror three disks, for six total, plus one
spare on one half.  So:

md0 is a raid1 (mirror) of four small partitions of each disk.
  mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=raid1 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sd[abcd]1

md1 is a raid5 of the remaining portion of three disks plus a spare.
  mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=raid5 --raid-devices=3 --spare-devices=1 
--assume-clean /dev/sd[abcd]2

md4 is a raid1 (mirror), degraded because disks are currently missing,
of md0 and missing.
  mdadm --create /dev/md4 --level=raid1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/md0 missing

md5 is a raid1 (mirror), degraded because disks are currently missing,
of md1 and missing.
  mdadm --create /dev/md5 --level=raid1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/md1 missing

I configured my lvm volumes on md5, and as I mentioned, anaconda does
see the members.

  lvm pvcreate /dev/md5
  lvm vgcreate -s 32m vg0 /dev/md5
  lvm lvcreate -L 1024m -n root vg0 ; ...
  lvm vgchange -a y vg0


Aside, anaconda displays md0 and md1 in the list of RAID volumes (both
as type foreign), but *not* md4 and md5 -- even though they are just
normal mirror RAIDs.  Is this because they are degraded?

I suspect anaconda lists the lvm members because it notices which vg's
are active.  It doesn't believe md5 contains a physical volume suitable
for LVM use.  (In fact, I don't think anaconda believes there any
physical volumes for lvm on the system at all and, as above, it doesn't
show md5 at all.)

If I cannot get anaconda to cooperate, I'll install onto a raid5 array
on temporary disks, then move the entire system into the proper
nested-RAID5/RAID1/LVM setup.

Thanks for suggestions.


Regards,
Richard

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Re: FC 9 Installation Input/output error, dmesg output

2008-06-22 Thread Alan Cox
On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:07:30 +0200
Daniel Kirsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hallo, 
 
 I have put an output of dmesg under 
 http://www.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~kirsten/pics/dmesg-output
 
 It seems to be DVD read error.   Should I try to install from 
 another source?
 
 The DVD passed the media check,  Vista can read the same DVD 
 in the same drive, and I verified the SHA1SUM of the .iso-file. 
 
 Can I give some kernel-option in the beginning of the installation 
 to choose a more reliable method to read from DVD?

This is odd


sd 4:0:0:0: [sda] 390721968 512-byte hardware sectors (200050 MB)

Your disk reports one size

sda: rw=0, want=532056072, limit=390721968
Buffer I/O error on device sda3, logical block 0

but your partition table thinks the disk is an entirely different size

sr 8:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK
driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE,SUGGEST_OK sr 8:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Hardware
Error [current] sr 8:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Logical unit communication
failure

And that is your CD drive reporting itself as erroring

You could try booting with libata.dma=1 as a boot option but that
shouldn't make any difference (obviously if it does file a bug)

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Re: OT How to get National Public Radio FM on Rythmbox

2008-06-22 Thread tom

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008, William Case wrote:


Hi all and thanks;

On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 05:21 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:

On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 23:56 -0400, William Case wrote:

Hi -- particularly to my American friends.

snip

http://www.npr.org/audiohelp/progstream.html

There's also a list of NPR stations at http://www.npr.org/stations/.
You could stream any of those.


I had gone to http://www.npr.org/stations/ and tried border cities, but
none of them seemed what I remembered.  A lot of their own programming.

I had visited my sister in Maine a couple of years ago and she had some
(I don't know which) NPR station streaming to her computer.  It was
always on low in the background.  It was perfect for listening while
working.

Loved the car guys.



Its been a quarter century since I lived in northern new england, but as I 
remember Maine's NPR stations are all run pretty much as a single system. 
That said, NPR is a collection of diverse local stations, most of which 
their own programming.  WFAE, one of my local outlets, runs to jazz and 
talk radio. WDAV, another local outlet with less NPR sourced material, is 
almost entirely classical (just a touch of news). The South Carolina 
outlet just to the south of here (Charlotte NC) has yet another flavor, 
but my reception is quite weak so I'm not sure what their mix is.


If you liked the mix from Maine Public Broadcasting, you might want to 
search for them, as I have no clue what their various station call signs 
are. Otherwise, I'm afraid you have a manual search for something worth 
listening to.


FWIW, the car guys are Car Talk if memory serves.

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Re: Trouble installing/compiling the Marvell sky98lin on F8

2008-06-22 Thread Roger Heflin

Ubence Quevedo wrote:

Hi All,

I am having problems installing the Marvell sky98lin driver on a 32-BIT F8 Core 
2 Duo system.  I have the kernel source installed like the instructions 
recommend, but whenever the installer gets to the module creation part it fails.

Here is the contents of the install.log file from the failed install:

+++ Install mode: User
+++ Driver version: 10.60.2.3 (Apr-28-2008)
+++ Kernel version 2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686
+++ smp_count=1
+++ cpu_number=2
+++ kernel_machine=i686
+++ Architecture: i386
+++ modpost available
+++ Unpack the sources
+++ 
+++ tar xfv sk98lin.tar
2.4/
2.4/skdim.c
2.4/sky2.c
2.4/skethtool.c
2.4/Makefile
2.4/skge.c
2.4/h/
2.4/h/skdrv1st.h
2.4/h/skdrv2nd.h
2.4/skproc.c
2.6/
2.6/skdim.c
2.6/sky2.c
2.6/skethtool.c
2.6/Makefile
2.6/skge.c
2.6/h/
2.6/h/skdrv1st.h
2.6/h/skdrv2nd.h
2.6/skproc.c
common/
common/skgehwt.c
common/skgeasf.c
common/sk98lin.htm
common/skgeinit.c
common/sktwsi.c
common/skvpd.c
common/sky2le.c
common/sk98lin.4
common/skfops.c
common/skgespilole.c
common/skgeasfconv.c
common/skgemib.c
common/skaddr.c
common/skcsum.c
common/skgepnmi.c
common/vpdcheck.c
common/sklm80.c
common/skqueue.c
common/sktimer.c
common/skrlmt.c
common/skgespi.c
common/skxmac2.c
common/skgesirq.c
common/h/
common/h/sktypes.h
common/h/skpcidevid.h
common/h/skqueue.h
common/h/skrlmt.h
common/h/skgepnm2.h
common/h/skgeasfconv.h
common/h/skaddr.h
common/h/skdebug.h
common/h/mvyexhw.h
common/h/skgehw.h
common/h/skgehwt.h
common/h/skfops.h
common/h/sktimer.h
common/h/skgepnmi.h
common/h/skvpd.h
common/h/skgetwsi.h
common/h/skerror.h
common/h/sktwsi.h
common/h/skcsum.h
common/h/skversion.h
common/h/xmac_ii.h
common/h/sky2le.h
common/h/skgeasf.h
common/h/skgespi.h
common/h/skgeinit.h
common/h/skgesirq.h
common/h/lm80.h
common/h/skgedrv.h
common/sk98lin.txt
misc/
misc/Kconfig
misc/Configure.help

+++ Compile the driver
+++ 
make: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686'
  CC [M]  /tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.o
  CC [M]  /tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/sky2.o
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c: In function ‘sk98lin_init_device’:
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:483: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘poll’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:484: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘weight’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:489: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘poll’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:490: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘weight’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:611: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘poll’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:612: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘weight’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:617: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘poll’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:618: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘weight’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c: In function ‘SkGeIsr’:
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:2342: error: too few arguments to 
function ‘netif_rx_schedule_prep’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:2345: error: too few arguments to 
function ‘__netif_rx_schedule’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c: In function ‘SkGeIsrOnePort’:
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:2513: error: too few arguments to 
function ‘netif_rx_schedule_prep’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:2518: error: too few arguments to 
function ‘__netif_rx_schedule’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c: In function ‘SkGePoll’:
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:3277: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘quota’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:3277: warning: type defaults to ‘int’ 
in declaration of ‘_y’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:3277: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘quota’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:3298: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘quota’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.c:3302: error: too few arguments to 
function ‘netif_rx_complete’
make[1]: *** [/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/skge.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/sky2.c: In function ‘SkY2Isr’:
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/sky2.c:428: error: implicit declaration of 
function ‘__netif_rx_schedule_prep’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/sky2.c:429: error: too few arguments to 
function ‘__netif_rx_schedule’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/sky2.c: In function ‘SkY2Poll’:
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/sky2.c:665: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘quota’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/sky2.c:665: warning: type defaults to ‘int’ 
in declaration of ‘_y’
/tmp/Sk98IomhaRXPCddXIYGhOSXfK/all/sky2.c:665: error: ‘struct net_device’ has 
no member named ‘quota’

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-22 Thread Kevin Kofler
Francis Earl francis.earl at gmail.com writes:
 If you really want KDE3, just set up a repo in Koji and be done with it.

Koji personal repos are not implemented yet.

 KDE doesn't even have any type of SELinux support, so the leading reason
 for using Fedora isn't even applicable for it...

Huh? The point of SELinux is that it should just work, i.e. not get in the way 
and not need special support, and that should be the case at this point. Not 
that SELinux is that useful anyway for the average user...

Kevin Kofler

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Re: kde-redhat

2008-06-22 Thread Kevin Kofler
Patrick O'Callaghan poc at usb.ve writes:
 I realize this may be a difficult question to answer, but I'll ask it
 anyway: if I use the kde-redhat repo, am I likely to have problems with
 the official Fedora versions of KDE?

The kde-redhat packages these days are just backports of Rawhide KDE packages 
to released distros. Rex Dieter is now one of the Fedora KDE maintainers. So 
the days where there were 2 completely separate sets of KDE packages are long 
past.

Kevin Kofler

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Re: kde-redhat

2008-06-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 17:43 +, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Patrick O'Callaghan poc at usb.ve writes:
  I realize this may be a difficult question to answer, but I'll ask it
  anyway: if I use the kde-redhat repo, am I likely to have problems with
  the official Fedora versions of KDE?
 
 The kde-redhat packages these days are just backports of Rawhide KDE packages 
 to released distros. Rex Dieter is now one of the Fedora KDE maintainers. So 
 the days where there were 2 completely separate sets of KDE packages are long 
 past.

Meaning it would only make sense for updates-unstable?

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Re: kde-redhat

2008-06-22 Thread kwhiskerz
I have enabled kde-unstable and kde-unstable-all. This allows me to use 
kde4.0.83, a terrific improvement over kde4.0.5.


There are bugs, so be forewarned: kde-redhat is presently providing beta 
releases (kde4.0.5 can at best be considered an alpha). And, yes, there are 
some conflicts. I found that I had to uninstall kipi-plugins, digikam, libkipi 
and libkdcraw. I prefer digikam to gwenview and the kipi-plugins are nicer to 
use than ImageMagick, but I will likely only have to put up with this minor 
inconvenience until the end of July, when kde4.1 is officially released.


This will get your system upgraded:
sudo yum --enablerepo=kde-unstable --enablerepo=kde-unstable-all update


Once kde has arrived at a more robust and stout level of maturity, I will 
likely discontinue use of kde-redhat. I cannot predict how rocky the road back 
to the official fedora repositories will be, but I expect that it will be a 
very 
smooth one, as the version numbering and kde-sig should take care of that very 
competently.
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Re: kde-redhat

2008-06-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 11:55 -0600, kwhiskerz wrote:
 I have enabled kde-unstable and kde-unstable-all. This allows me to
 use kde4.0.83, a terrific improvement over kde4.0.5.
 
 
 There are bugs, so be forewarned: kde-redhat is presently providing
 beta releases (kde4.0.5 can at best be considered an alpha). And, yes,
 there are some conflicts. I found that I had to uninstall
 kipi-plugins, digikam, libkipi and libkdcraw. I prefer digikam to
 gwenview and the kipi-plugins are nicer to use than ImageMagick, but I
 will likely only have to put up with this minor inconvenience until
 the end of July, when kde4.1 is officially released.
 
 
 This will get your system upgraded:
 sudo yum --enablerepo=kde-unstable --enablerepo=kde-unstable-all
 update
 
 
 Once kde has arrived at a more robust and stout level of maturity, I
 will likely discontinue use of kde-redhat. I cannot predict how rocky
 the road back to the official fedora repositories will be, but I
 expect that it will be a very smooth one, as the version numbering and
 kde-sig should take care of that very competently.

OK thanks. That's pretty much what I wanted to know.

poc

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Re: Firefox3 Send Link won't use Thunderbird

2008-06-22 Thread Jim

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 12:04 -0400, Jim wrote:
  

Fc8, Firefox 3
When using  FileSend Link in Firefox 2 it would open Thunderbird to 
send link, but in Firefox3 the feature doesn't work.
In /,mozilla/firefox/default/user.js file, to select thunderbird, but it 
won't work in Firefox 3.

Below is contents of  user.js

user_pref(network.protocol-handler.app.mailto,/usr/bin/thunderbird);
user_pref(browser.tabs.showSingleWindowModePrefs, true);

What's different in FF3 ??



AFAIK this is a GTK setting, not specific to Firefox (FF uses GTK). Try
setting TB in the Gnome Preferred Applications dialogue. If you use KDE,
run gnome-control-center to get to it.

poc

  

Sorry about that, I'am running  KDE and I don't have

gnome-control-center  installed, do you know howto do this in KDE ?
Thanks for your responds.


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F9 NFS statd fails to start?

2008-06-22 Thread Knute Johnson
I'm not using NFS and I have nfs and nfslock disabled.  I assume that 
NFS statd is to monitor NFS somehow which I don't need but there is no 
option to turn it off in the services program.  Where would I find NFS 
statd to disable it too?


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Re: F9 - sendmail won't send on startup?

2008-06-22 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 11:17 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
 I've got two installations of F9 running, one x86_64 and the other i386. 
   They both fail to send email initially but if I restart sendmail they 
 send fine after that.  I'm using thunderbird and have it configured to 
 use the local sendmail for sending.  The only thing I've modified in my 
 sendmail.mc file is the masquerading.  Any ideas where to start looking?
 
 Thanks,
 
 knute...
 
 Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2107]: alias database /etc/aliases 
 rebuilt by root
 Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2107]: /etc/aliases: 77 aliases, 
 longest 10 bytes, 774 bytes total
 Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2112]: starting daemon (8.14.2): 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:00:00
 Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2112]: STARTTLS: ServerCertFile missing
 Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2112]: started as: /usr/sbin/sendmail 
 -bd -q1h
 Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sm-msp-queue[2121]: starting daemon (8.14.2): 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:00:00
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: NOQUEUE: connect from 
 localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: AUTH: available mech=CRAM-MD5 
 PLAIN ANONYMOUS DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN, allowed mech=EXTERNAL GSSAPI 
 KERBEROS_V4 DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: Milter: no 
 active filter
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 220 
 localhost.localdomain ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 
 11:10:43 -0700
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: -- EHLO 
 [127.0.0.1]
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 
 250-localhost.localdomain Hello localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1], 
 pleased to meet you
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 
 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-PIPELINING
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-8BITMIME
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-SIZE
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-DSN
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-ETRN
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-AUTH 
 DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-DELIVERBY
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250 HELP
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: -- MAIL 
 FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=427
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
 www.knutejohnson.com: Name server timeout
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 050 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Transient parse error -- message queued 
 for future delivery
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
 www.knutejohnson.com: Name server timeout
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
 www.knutejohnson.com: Name server timeout
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
 www.knutejohnson.com: Name server timeout
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 4.1.8 
 Domain of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not resolve
 Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: 
 ruleset=check_mail, arg1=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
 relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1], reject=451 4.1.8 Domain of 
 sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not resolve
 Jun 22 11:10:56 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: -- QUIT
 Jun 22 11:10:56 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 221 2.0.0 
 localhost.localdomain closing connection
 Jun 22 11:10:56 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: 
 from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=427, class=0, nrcpts=0, 
 proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]

is sendmail set to start on boot?

chkconfig --list sendmail # to review which runlevels it starts on
chkconfig sendmail on # to have it start on boot

it does appear that you've got a DNS issue too...'sender address of
www.knutejohnson.com does not resolve' is a problem as I see it.

Craig

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Re: F9 NFS statd fails to start?

2008-06-22 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 11:22 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
 I'm not using NFS and I have nfs and nfslock disabled.  I assume that 
 NFS statd is to monitor NFS somehow which I don't need but there is no 
 option to turn it off in the services program.  Where would I find NFS 
 statd to disable it too?

# grep statd /etc/init.d/*
/etc/init.d/nfslock:[ -x /sbin/rpc.statd ] || exit 5
/etc/init.d/nfslock:echo -n $Starting NFS statd: 
/etc/init.d/nfslock:# See if a statd's ports has been defined
/etc/init.d/nfslock:daemon rpc.statd $STATDARG
/etc/init.d/nfslock:echo -n $Stopping NFS statd: 
/etc/init.d/nfslock:killproc rpc.statd
/etc/init.d/nfslock:status rpc.statd
/etc/init.d/nfslock:/sbin/pidof rpc.statd /dev/null 21;
STATD=$?

obvioulsy nfslock starts/stops rpc.statd

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Re: F9 - sendmail won't send on startup?

2008-06-22 Thread Knute Johnson

Craig White wrote:

On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 11:17 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
I've got two installations of F9 running, one x86_64 and the other i386. 
  They both fail to send email initially but if I restart sendmail they 
send fine after that.  I'm using thunderbird and have it configured to 
use the local sendmail for sending.  The only thing I've modified in my 
sendmail.mc file is the masquerading.  Any ideas where to start looking?


Thanks,

knute...

Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2107]: alias database /etc/aliases 
rebuilt by root
Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2107]: /etc/aliases: 77 aliases, 
longest 10 bytes, 774 bytes total
Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2112]: starting daemon (8.14.2): 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:00:00

Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2112]: STARTTLS: ServerCertFile missing
Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2112]: started as: /usr/sbin/sendmail 
-bd -q1h
Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sm-msp-queue[2121]: starting daemon (8.14.2): 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:00:00
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: NOQUEUE: connect from 
localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: AUTH: available mech=CRAM-MD5 
PLAIN ANONYMOUS DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN, allowed mech=EXTERNAL GSSAPI 
KERBEROS_V4 DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: Milter: no 
active filter
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 220 
localhost.localdomain ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 
11:10:43 -0700
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: -- EHLO 
[127.0.0.1]
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 
250-localhost.localdomain Hello localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1], 
pleased to meet you
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES

Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-PIPELINING
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-8BITMIME
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-SIZE
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-DSN
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-ETRN
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-AUTH 
DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5

Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-DELIVERBY
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250 HELP
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: -- MAIL 
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=427
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
www.knutejohnson.com: Name server timeout
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 050 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Transient parse error -- message queued 
for future delivery
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
www.knutejohnson.com: Name server timeout
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
www.knutejohnson.com: Name server timeout
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
www.knutejohnson.com: Name server timeout
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 4.1.8 
Domain of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not resolve
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: 
ruleset=check_mail, arg1=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1], reject=451 4.1.8 Domain of 
sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not resolve

Jun 22 11:10:56 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: -- QUIT
Jun 22 11:10:56 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 221 2.0.0 
localhost.localdomain closing connection
Jun 22 11:10:56 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=427, class=0, nrcpts=0, 
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]


is sendmail set to start on boot?


Yes.  That's why I included the log that shows the start of sendmail.


chkconfig --list sendmail # to review which runlevels it starts on
chkconfig sendmail on # to have it start on boot


The log above shows it is running but;

[EMAIL PROTECTED] knute]# /sbin/chkconfig --list | grep sendmail
sendmail0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off


it does appear that you've got a DNS issue too...'sender address of
www.knutejohnson.com does not resolve' is a problem as I see it.


When the computer first starts.  After I restart sendmail it doesn't 
have a problem any more.  This mail was sent from one of the computers 
with the problem.


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Re: Firefox3 Send Link won't use Thunderbird

2008-06-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 14:21 -0400, Jim wrote:
 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 12:04 -0400, Jim wrote:

  Fc8, Firefox 3
  When using  FileSend Link in Firefox 2 it would open Thunderbird to 
  send link, but in Firefox3 the feature doesn't work.
  In /,mozilla/firefox/default/user.js file, to select thunderbird, but it 
  won't work in Firefox 3.
  Below is contents of  user.js
 
  user_pref(network.protocol-handler.app.mailto,/usr/bin/thunderbird);
  user_pref(browser.tabs.showSingleWindowModePrefs, true);
 
  What's different in FF3 ??
  
 
  AFAIK this is a GTK setting, not specific to Firefox (FF uses GTK). Try
  setting TB in the Gnome Preferred Applications dialogue. If you use KDE,
  run gnome-control-center to get to it.
 
  poc
 

 Sorry about that, I'am running  KDE and I don't have
 
 gnome-control-center  installed, do you know howto do this in KDE ?
 Thanks for your responds.

No I don't, but note that FF is a GTK application compiled with GTK
libraries so KDE has no direct way of controlling it. You could probably
edit the gconf files directly, but I don't recommend it. Just run yum
install control-center. It won't get in the way of using KDE.

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Wide, flat, weird : HP w2207h with F8 F9

2008-06-22 Thread Beartooth

I've been running several F8 and F9 machines behind a KVM switch 
against what seemed the current high-end monitor in local stores. (My old 
LCD, which was 1280x1024, died suddenly.)

The first weirdness, of several, is that my three PCs all handled 
it well enough to be usable under F8, albeit not optimally -- they try 
variously to treat the display or the hardware, or both, as anything from 
1280x1024 to 1680x1050 (which is what it is), and often fail when they're 
over 1280x1024. 

This is the case even though I do my upgrades, and especially 
installs, with the subject machine out from behind the KVM switch, 
connected directly (and alone, of course) to the peripherals, so that it 
can do any necessary negotiating with them, unimpeded by the KVM switch.

(In the past, that has sufficed. Once they're configured, they 
can be put behind the switch again.)

One machine actually shows *almost* the model number (w2207, 
without the h) -- but that's not in the list of all monitors that Fedora 
knows about.

Is there some secret driver somewhere that I should be getting? 
One reason I bought this on is that HP is supposed to be linux-
friendly ...

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Re: F9 - sendmail won't send on startup?

2008-06-22 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 11:32 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
 Craig White wrote:
  On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 11:17 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
  I've got two installations of F9 running, one x86_64 and the other i386. 
They both fail to send email initially but if I restart sendmail they 
  send fine after that.  I'm using thunderbird and have it configured to 
  use the local sendmail for sending.  The only thing I've modified in my 
  sendmail.mc file is the masquerading.  Any ideas where to start looking?
 
  Thanks,
 
  knute...
 
  Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2107]: alias database /etc/aliases 
  rebuilt by root
  Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2107]: /etc/aliases: 77 aliases, 
  longest 10 bytes, 774 bytes total
  Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2112]: starting daemon (8.14.2): 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:00:00
  Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2112]: STARTTLS: ServerCertFile missing
  Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2112]: started as: /usr/sbin/sendmail 
  -bd -q1h
  Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sm-msp-queue[2121]: starting daemon (8.14.2): 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:00:00
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: NOQUEUE: connect from 
  localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: AUTH: available mech=CRAM-MD5 
  PLAIN ANONYMOUS DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN, allowed mech=EXTERNAL GSSAPI 
  KERBEROS_V4 DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: Milter: no 
  active filter
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 220 
  localhost.localdomain ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 
  11:10:43 -0700
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: -- EHLO 
  [127.0.0.1]
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 
  250-localhost.localdomain Hello localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1], 
  pleased to meet you
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 
  250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 
  250-PIPELINING
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-8BITMIME
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-SIZE
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-DSN
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-ETRN
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-AUTH 
  DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-DELIVERBY
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250 HELP
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: -- MAIL 
  FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=427
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
  www.knutejohnson.com: Name server timeout
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 050 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Transient parse error -- message queued 
  for future delivery
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
  www.knutejohnson.com: Name server timeout
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
  www.knutejohnson.com: Name server timeout
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
  www.knutejohnson.com: Name server timeout
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 4.1.8 
  Domain of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not resolve
  Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: 
  ruleset=check_mail, arg1=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
  relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1], reject=451 4.1.8 Domain of 
  sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not resolve
  Jun 22 11:10:56 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: -- QUIT
  Jun 22 11:10:56 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 221 2.0.0 
  localhost.localdomain closing connection
  Jun 22 11:10:56 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: 
  from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=427, class=0, nrcpts=0, 
  proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
  
  is sendmail set to start on boot?
 
 Yes.  That's why I included the log that shows the start of sendmail.
 
  chkconfig --list sendmail # to review which runlevels it starts on
  chkconfig sendmail on # to have it start on boot
 
 The log above shows it is running but;
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] knute]# /sbin/chkconfig --list | grep sendmail
 sendmail  0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
 
  it does appear that you've got a DNS issue too...'sender address of
  www.knutejohnson.com does not resolve' is a problem as I see it.
 
 When the computer first starts.  After I restart sendmail it doesn't 
 have a problem any more.  This mail was sent from one of the computers 
 with the problem.

I would think that sendmail starts after named starts but perhaps not.

Try setting a manual entry for www.knutejohnson.com in /etc/hosts

Craig

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Re: F9 - sendmail won't send on startup?

2008-06-22 Thread Knute Johnson

Craig White wrote:

On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 11:32 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:

Craig White wrote:

On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 11:17 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
I've got two installations of F9 running, one x86_64 and the other i386. 
  They both fail to send email initially but if I restart sendmail they 
send fine after that.  I'm using thunderbird and have it configured to 
use the local sendmail for sending.  The only thing I've modified in my 
sendmail.mc file is the masquerading.  Any ideas where to start looking?


Thanks,

knute...

Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2107]: alias database /etc/aliases 
rebuilt by root
Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2107]: /etc/aliases: 77 aliases, 
longest 10 bytes, 774 bytes total
Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2112]: starting daemon (8.14.2): 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:00:00

Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2112]: STARTTLS: ServerCertFile missing
Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2112]: started as: /usr/sbin/sendmail 
-bd -q1h
Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sm-msp-queue[2121]: starting daemon (8.14.2): 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:00:00
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: NOQUEUE: connect from 
localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: AUTH: available mech=CRAM-MD5 
PLAIN ANONYMOUS DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN, allowed mech=EXTERNAL GSSAPI 
KERBEROS_V4 DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: Milter: no 
active filter
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 220 
localhost.localdomain ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Sun, 22 Jun 2008 
11:10:43 -0700
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: -- EHLO 
[127.0.0.1]
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 
250-localhost.localdomain Hello localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1], 
pleased to meet you
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES

Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-PIPELINING
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-8BITMIME
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-SIZE
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-DSN
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-ETRN
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-AUTH 
DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5

Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-DELIVERBY
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250 HELP
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: -- MAIL 
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=427
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
www.knutejohnson.com: Name server timeout
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 050 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Transient parse error -- message queued 
for future delivery
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
www.knutejohnson.com: Name server timeout
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
www.knutejohnson.com: Name server timeout
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
www.knutejohnson.com: Name server timeout
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 4.1.8 
Domain of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not resolve
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: 
ruleset=check_mail, arg1=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1], reject=451 4.1.8 Domain of 
sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not resolve

Jun 22 11:10:56 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: -- QUIT
Jun 22 11:10:56 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 221 2.0.0 
localhost.localdomain closing connection
Jun 22 11:10:56 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=427, class=0, nrcpts=0, 
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]


is sendmail set to start on boot?

Yes.  That's why I included the log that shows the start of sendmail.


chkconfig --list sendmail # to review which runlevels it starts on
chkconfig sendmail on # to have it start on boot

The log above shows it is running but;

[EMAIL PROTECTED] knute]# /sbin/chkconfig --list | grep sendmail
sendmail0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off


it does appear that you've got a DNS issue too...'sender address of
www.knutejohnson.com does not resolve' is a problem as I see it.
When the computer first starts.  After I restart sendmail it doesn't 
have a problem any more.  This mail was sent from one of the computers 
with the problem.


I would think that sendmail starts after named starts but perhaps not.

Try setting a manual entry for www.knutejohnson.com in /etc/hosts

Craig



That didn't fix it.  The mail got queued though which is another problem 
that occurs sometimes along with this.  As soon as I restart sendmail 
these queued mails are sent immediately.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] knute]# mailq

Re: linux - scientific

2008-06-22 Thread Michael Hannon
We use Scientific Linux a lot at work.  It's a recompiled RHEL, similar to 
CentOS.  We use it mostly for servers and have been happy with it.  It has very 
good community support via their mailing lists, and the people that build it 
(at Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory and CERN) are very responsive.

Note that Scientific Linux, as with other enterprise distributions, typically 
does NOT include bleeding-edge applications.  It places where we need those, we 
use Fedora.  The trade-off here is that a given version of Scientific Linux 
will typically be supported for three years or more, while Fedora needs to be 
updated about once a year.

Another thing to note is that Scientific Linux does not meet the same 
purity-of-essence standard as Fedora: the distribution contains software that 
is free and useful but not GPL'ed.  The University of Washington pine email 
client used to be the canonical example of this.  I guess that alpine has now 
made that particular package moot, but the principle still applies.

-- Mike

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Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:20:30 AM
Subject: linux - scientific

anyone using scientificlinux and comments about experience? (other than it
is 'enterprise')


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Re: F9 - sendmail won't send on startup?

2008-06-22 Thread Knute Johnson

Knute Johnson wrote:

Craig White wrote:

On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 11:32 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:

Craig White wrote:

On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 11:17 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
I've got two installations of F9 running, one x86_64 and the other 
i386.   They both fail to send email initially but if I restart 
sendmail they send fine after that.  I'm using thunderbird and have 
it configured to use the local sendmail for sending.  The only 
thing I've modified in my sendmail.mc file is the masquerading.  
Any ideas where to start looking?


Thanks,

knute...

Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2107]: alias database 
/etc/aliases rebuilt by root
Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2107]: /etc/aliases: 77 aliases, 
longest 10 bytes, 774 bytes total
Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2112]: starting daemon (8.14.2): 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:00:00
Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2112]: STARTTLS: ServerCertFile 
missing
Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sendmail[2112]: started as: 
/usr/sbin/sendmail -bd -q1h
Jun 22 11:09:54 localhost sm-msp-queue[2121]: starting daemon 
(8.14.2): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:00:00
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: NOQUEUE: connect from 
localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: AUTH: available 
mech=CRAM-MD5 PLAIN ANONYMOUS DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN, allowed 
mech=EXTERNAL GSSAPI KERBEROS_V4 DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: Milter: 
no active filter
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 220 
localhost.localdomain ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Sun, 22 Jun 
2008 11:10:43 -0700
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: -- EHLO 
[127.0.0.1]
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 
250-localhost.localdomain Hello localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1], 
pleased to meet you
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 
250-PIPELINING
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 
250-8BITMIME

Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-SIZE
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-DSN
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250-ETRN
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 
250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 
250-DELIVERBY

Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 250 HELP
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: -- MAIL 
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=427
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
www.knutejohnson.com: Name server timeout
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 050 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Transient parse error -- message 
queued for future delivery
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
www.knutejohnson.com: Name server timeout
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
www.knutejohnson.com: Name server timeout
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
www.knutejohnson.com: Name server timeout
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 451 
4.1.8 Domain of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not 
resolve
Jun 22 11:10:43 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: 
ruleset=check_mail, arg1=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1], reject=451 4.1.8 Domain of 
sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not resolve

Jun 22 11:10:56 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: -- QUIT
Jun 22 11:10:56 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: --- 221 
2.0.0 localhost.localdomain closing connection
Jun 22 11:10:56 localhost sendmail[2664]: m5MIAhEW002664: 
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=427, class=0, nrcpts=0, 
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]


is sendmail set to start on boot?

Yes.  That's why I included the log that shows the start of sendmail.


chkconfig --list sendmail # to review which runlevels it starts on
chkconfig sendmail on # to have it start on boot

The log above shows it is running but;

[EMAIL PROTECTED] knute]# /sbin/chkconfig --list | grep sendmail
sendmail   0:off1:off2:on3:on4:on5:on
6:off



it does appear that you've got a DNS issue too...'sender address of
www.knutejohnson.com does not resolve' is a problem as I see it.
When the computer first starts.  After I restart sendmail it doesn't 
have a problem any more.  This mail was sent from one of the 
computers with the problem.


I would think that sendmail starts after named starts but perhaps not.

Try setting a manual entry for www.knutejohnson.com in /etc/hosts

Craig



That didn't fix it.  The mail got queued though which is another problem 
that occurs sometimes along with this.  As soon as I restart sendmail 
these queued mails are sent immediately.


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Re: F9 - sendmail won't send on startup?

2008-06-22 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 12:02 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
 Knute Johnson wrote:
  
  That didn't fix it.  The mail got queued though which is another problem 
  that occurs sometimes along with this.  As soon as I restart sendmail 
  these queued mails are sent immediately.
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] knute]# mailq
  /var/spool/mqueue (2 requests)
  -Q-ID- --Size-- -Q-Time- 
  Sender/Recipient---
  m5MItEsf002625   52 Sun Jun 22 11:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (Deferred: Name server: www.knutejohnson.com.: host 
  name look)
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  m5MIrQFK002822   52 Sun Jun 22 11:53 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (Deferred: Name server: www.knutejohnson.com.: host 
  name look)
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Total requests: 2
  
 
 These extra emails are problems with the mailq (I think).

I'm out...I abandoned sendmail for postfix years ago. A suggestion
though...set up a server on your lan to handle relaying all outbound
mail and use an smtp connection to that server instead of relying upon
the local /usr/bin/sendmail binary. That pretty much solves the issue of
configuring each workstation to handle mail deliveries.

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Re: Firefox3 Send Link won't use Thunderbird

2008-06-22 Thread Jim

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 14:21 -0400, Jim wrote:
  

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 12:04 -0400, Jim wrote:
  
  

Fc8, Firefox 3
When using  FileSend Link in Firefox 2 it would open Thunderbird to 
send link, but in Firefox3 the feature doesn't work.
In /,mozilla/firefox/default/user.js file, to select thunderbird, but it 
won't work in Firefox 3.

Below is contents of  user.js

user_pref(network.protocol-handler.app.mailto,/usr/bin/thunderbird);
user_pref(browser.tabs.showSingleWindowModePrefs, true);

What's different in FF3 ??



AFAIK this is a GTK setting, not specific to Firefox (FF uses GTK). Try
setting TB in the Gnome Preferred Applications dialogue. If you use KDE,
run gnome-control-center to get to it.

poc

  
  

Sorry about that, I'am running  KDE and I don't have

gnome-control-center  installed, do you know howto do this in KDE ?
Thanks for your responds.



No I don't, but note that FF is a GTK application compiled with GTK
libraries so KDE has no direct way of controlling it. You could probably
edit the gconf files directly, but I don't recommend it. Just run yum
install control-center. It won't get in the way of using KDE.

poc

  
Boy that sure is a weird  way of  having to set it up, but that did the 
trick , Thanks for the help

Even tho I'm not a Gnome user, I think I'll keep that Gnome-control-center.
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Re: F9 - sendmail won't send on startup?

2008-06-22 Thread Knute Johnson

Craig White wrote:

On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 12:02 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:

Knute Johnson wrote:
That didn't fix it.  The mail got queued though which is another problem 
that occurs sometimes along with this.  As soon as I restart sendmail 
these queued mails are sent immediately.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] knute]# mailq
/var/spool/mqueue (2 requests)
-Q-ID- --Size-- -Q-Time- 
Sender/Recipient---

m5MItEsf002625   52 Sun Jun 22 11:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Deferred: Name server: www.knutejohnson.com.: host 
name look)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
m5MIrQFK002822   52 Sun Jun 22 11:53 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Deferred: Name server: www.knutejohnson.com.: host 
name look)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Total requests: 2


These extra emails are problems with the mailq (I think).


I'm out...I abandoned sendmail for postfix years ago. A suggestion
though...set up a server on your lan to handle relaying all outbound
mail and use an smtp connection to that server instead of relying upon
the local /usr/bin/sendmail binary. That pretty much solves the issue of
configuring each workstation to handle mail deliveries.

Craig



There are a million ways around the problem, but I'd really just like to 
fix it.


Thanks for trying though.

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Re: F9 - sendmail won't send on startup?

2008-06-22 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 12:17 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
 Craig White wrote:
  On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 12:02 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
  Knute Johnson wrote:
  That didn't fix it.  The mail got queued though which is another problem 
  that occurs sometimes along with this.  As soon as I restart sendmail 
  these queued mails are sent immediately.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] knute]# mailq
  /var/spool/mqueue (2 requests)
  -Q-ID- --Size-- -Q-Time- 
  Sender/Recipient---
  m5MItEsf002625   52 Sun Jun 22 11:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (Deferred: Name server: www.knutejohnson.com.: host 
  name look)
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  m5MIrQFK002822   52 Sun Jun 22 11:53 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (Deferred: Name server: www.knutejohnson.com.: host 
  name look)
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Total requests: 2
 
  These extra emails are problems with the mailq (I think).
  
  I'm out...I abandoned sendmail for postfix years ago. A suggestion
  though...set up a server on your lan to handle relaying all outbound
  mail and use an smtp connection to that server instead of relying upon
  the local /usr/bin/sendmail binary. That pretty much solves the issue of
  configuring each workstation to handle mail deliveries.
  
  Craig
  
 
 There are a million ways around the problem, but I'd really just like to 
 fix it.
 
 Thanks for trying though.

I feel that you missed my point.

If you are going to rely upon configuring sendmail on each machine on
your LAN to deliver e-mail, you need to have working DNS and some
knowledge on how to configure sendmail. That's what's required to fix
it. You are choosing your own burdens here.

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Re: F9 - sendmail won't send on startup?

2008-06-22 Thread Knute Johnson

Craig White wrote:

On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 12:17 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:

Craig White wrote:

On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 12:02 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:

Knute Johnson wrote:
That didn't fix it.  The mail got queued though which is another problem 
that occurs sometimes along with this.  As soon as I restart sendmail 
these queued mails are sent immediately.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] knute]# mailq
/var/spool/mqueue (2 requests)
-Q-ID- --Size-- -Q-Time- 
Sender/Recipient---

m5MItEsf002625   52 Sun Jun 22 11:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Deferred: Name server: www.knutejohnson.com.: host 
name look)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
m5MIrQFK002822   52 Sun Jun 22 11:53 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Deferred: Name server: www.knutejohnson.com.: host 
name look)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Total requests: 2


These extra emails are problems with the mailq (I think).


I'm out...I abandoned sendmail for postfix years ago. A suggestion
though...set up a server on your lan to handle relaying all outbound
mail and use an smtp connection to that server instead of relying upon
the local /usr/bin/sendmail binary. That pretty much solves the issue of
configuring each workstation to handle mail deliveries.

Craig

There are a million ways around the problem, but I'd really just like to 
fix it.


Thanks for trying though.


I feel that you missed my point.

If you are going to rely upon configuring sendmail on each machine on
your LAN to deliver e-mail, you need to have working DNS and some
knowledge on how to configure sendmail. That's what's required to fix
it. You are choosing your own burdens here.

Craig



I understand you perfectly.  However there is no DNS problem as I can 
read mail from the server, the browser works and I can ping.  There is 
some new problem with F9 that is causing this or something that works 
differently on F9.  This has worked fine on every version of Fedora 
since 1 and it works fine as soon as I restart sendmail.


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Wireless problems.

2008-06-22 Thread Mark Haney
I've had this F8 box working perfectly for the last 4 months or so and 
for some reason now (and I assume this is due to the last round of 
updates, but I don't know for certain, my wireless link (linksys 54g 
card) refuses to come up and connect. In dmesg I get lots of 'link not 
ready' messages.  And even though the card was set to startup on boot, I 
had to unset and reset that option to make that work.


Even when I manually set I set it up, it doesn't want to come up.  The 
module is loaded, it just isn't behaving.  Could it be kernel related 
perhaps?  I don't know where to start debugging this, since it all LOOKS 
right.


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Re: Wide, flat, weird : HP w2207h with F8 F9

2008-06-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:44:25 + (UTC)
Beartooth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there some secret driver somewhere that I should be getting?

Depends on what driver you have now. The nv driver has problems
with lots of video cards and monitors:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=234824

as does the potential replacement nouveau driver:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=447526

So, if you have an nvidia card, the best bet for a working
driver is to add the livna repo and download the kmod-nvidia
driver.

You could take a look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and
see if is says things like Oh look, I'm supposed to run this
display at 1680x1050, but I don't think that's a good idea :-).

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Re: F9 - sendmail won't send on startup?

2008-06-22 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 12:48 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
 Craig White wrote:
  On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 12:17 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
  Craig White wrote:
  On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 12:02 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
  Knute Johnson wrote:
  That didn't fix it.  The mail got queued though which is another 
  problem 
  that occurs sometimes along with this.  As soon as I restart sendmail 
  these queued mails are sent immediately.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] knute]# mailq
  /var/spool/mqueue (2 requests)
  -Q-ID- --Size-- -Q-Time- 
  Sender/Recipient---
  m5MItEsf002625   52 Sun Jun 22 11:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (Deferred: Name server: www.knutejohnson.com.: host 
  name look)
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  m5MIrQFK002822   52 Sun Jun 22 11:53 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (Deferred: Name server: www.knutejohnson.com.: host 
  name look)
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Total requests: 2
 
  These extra emails are problems with the mailq (I think).
  
  I'm out...I abandoned sendmail for postfix years ago. A suggestion
  though...set up a server on your lan to handle relaying all outbound
  mail and use an smtp connection to that server instead of relying upon
  the local /usr/bin/sendmail binary. That pretty much solves the issue of
  configuring each workstation to handle mail deliveries.
 
  Craig
 
  There are a million ways around the problem, but I'd really just like to 
  fix it.
 
  Thanks for trying though.
  
  I feel that you missed my point.
  
  If you are going to rely upon configuring sendmail on each machine on
  your LAN to deliver e-mail, you need to have working DNS and some
  knowledge on how to configure sendmail. That's what's required to fix
  it. You are choosing your own burdens here.
  
  Craig
  
 
 I understand you perfectly.  However there is no DNS problem as I can 
 read mail from the server, the browser works and I can ping.  There is 
 some new problem with F9 that is causing this or something that works 
 differently on F9.  This has worked fine on every version of Fedora 
 since 1 and it works fine as soon as I restart sendmail.

But I am running F-9 and sendmail and don't get those startup errors...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# grep 'Name server timeout' /var/log/maillog*
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# grep 'Name server timeout' /var/log/messages*
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# chkconfig --list sendmail
sendmail0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off

so it seems as though you do have some DNS problem somewhere.

And I assure you that if there was an inherent problem with mail
delivery on Fedora-9, we'd be hearing plenty of moaning.

but since I have a server on the LAN that handles mail delivery (both on
the LAN and to the Internet), it's a waste of time for me to configure
each local system to deliver e-mail when all I need to do is just use my
server for smtp connections and if necessary, simply configure a
workstation to use my server as a smarthost.

Thus when I see you using e-mail addresses with zones (www) and errors
resolving them, it seems to me that it's simply errors caused by your
configuration which seems to be unnecessarily complicated and requires
that you notch up your troubleshooting capabilities.

I recall that on Fedora 8, NetworkManager sysv init ran rather late in
the startup series but checking it out now, it starts much earlier and
certainly before SendMail so that shouldn't pose a problem (which is why
I suggested putting an entry in /etc/hosts).

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Re: Wireless problems.

2008-06-22 Thread Mark Haney

Jim wrote:

Mark Haney wrote:
I've had this F8 box working perfectly for the last 4 months or so and 
for some reason now (and I assume this is due to the last round of 
updates, but I don't know for certain, my wireless link (linksys 54g 
card) refuses to come up and connect. In dmesg I get lots of 'link not 
ready' messages.  And even though the card was set to startup on boot, 
I had to unset and reset that option to make that work.


Even when I manually set I set it up, it doesn't want to come up.  The 
module is loaded, it just isn't behaving.  Could it be kernel related 
perhaps?  I don't know where to start debugging this, since it all 
LOOKS right.



First , what version of Fedora you using
Second , give the output of /sbin/lspci -v on your wireless card



Fedora 8.  (that's in the OP, but not real noticeable)

lspci -v

02:09.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
Subsystem: Linksys WMP54G ver 4.1
Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 64, IRQ 21
Memory at e810 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
Kernel driver in use: rt61pci
Kernel modules: rt61pci

The only thing I've changed on this box recently has been the kernel and 
associated updates.


It's not changed position, or anything like that.  The AP moved about 10 
feet, but until the beginning of this week this box worked great with 
the AP in the new spot.




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Re: Wireless problems.

2008-06-22 Thread Mike
Mark Haney mhaney at ercbroadband.org writes:

 lspci -v
 
 02:09.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
   Subsystem: Linksys WMP54G ver 4.1
   Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 64, IRQ 21
   Memory at e810 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32K]
   Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
   Kernel driver in use: rt61pci
   Kernel modules: rt61pci
 
 The only thing I've changed on this box recently has been the kernel and 
 associated updates.

Might be useful to know how you are connecting - NetworkManager, wpa-supplicant
WEP, WPA? I am using F8 with wpa_supplicant on three different machines with
different wireless cards in each and have no problems - one is rt73usb.

On the other hand I know someone who is using WEP with standard network
defined in ifcfg-*** files - and has been having problems for a while now
in F8



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Re: F9 - sendmail won't send on startup?

2008-06-22 Thread Knute Johnson

Craig White wrote:

I feel that you missed my point.

If you are going to rely upon configuring sendmail on each machine on
your LAN to deliver e-mail, you need to have working DNS and some
knowledge on how to configure sendmail. That's what's required to fix
it. You are choosing your own burdens here.

Craig

I understand you perfectly.  However there is no DNS problem as I can 
read mail from the server, the browser works and I can ping.  There is 
some new problem with F9 that is causing this or something that works 
differently on F9.  This has worked fine on every version of Fedora 
since 1 and it works fine as soon as I restart sendmail.


But I am running F-9 and sendmail and don't get those startup errors...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# grep 'Name server timeout' /var/log/maillog*
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# grep 'Name server timeout' /var/log/messages*
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# chkconfig --list sendmail
sendmail0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off

so it seems as though you do have some DNS problem somewhere.


Why would only sendmail have DNS problems and only before it is restarted?


And I assure you that if there was an inherent problem with mail
delivery on Fedora-9, we'd be hearing plenty of moaning.

but since I have a server on the LAN that handles mail delivery (both on
the LAN and to the Internet), it's a waste of time for me to configure
each local system to deliver e-mail when all I need to do is just use my
server for smtp connections and if necessary, simply configure a
workstation to use my server as a smarthost.


It takes about 30 seconds to configure.


Thus when I see you using e-mail addresses with zones (www) and errors
resolving them, it seems to me that it's simply errors caused by your
configuration which seems to be unnecessarily complicated and requires
that you notch up your troubleshooting capabilities.


Only sendmail and only before it is restarted after that it works fine.


I recall that on Fedora 8, NetworkManager sysv init ran rather late in
the startup series but checking it out now, it starts much earlier and
certainly before SendMail so that shouldn't pose a problem (which is why
I suggested putting an entry in /etc/hosts).

Craig



The entry in /etc/hosts did not solve the problem.  That's the main 
reason I don't think it is a DNS problem.


If you are bored, set your thunderbird to use localhost as the SMTP 
server and try it.  And try to email your local server so you are sure 
it isn't some ISP blocking problem.


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Re: F9 - sendmail won't send on startup?

2008-06-22 Thread Knute Johnson

Craig White wrote:

On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 12:48 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:

Craig White wrote:
There are a million ways around the problem, but I'd really just like to 
fix it.


Thanks for trying though.


I feel that you missed my point.

If you are going to rely upon configuring sendmail on each machine on
your LAN to deliver e-mail, you need to have working DNS and some
knowledge on how to configure sendmail. That's what's required to fix
it. You are choosing your own burdens here.

Craig

I understand you perfectly.  However there is no DNS problem as I can 
read mail from the server, the browser works and I can ping.  There is 
some new problem with F9 that is causing this or something that works 
differently on F9.  This has worked fine on every version of Fedora 
since 1 and it works fine as soon as I restart sendmail.


But I am running F-9 and sendmail and don't get those startup errors...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# grep 'Name server timeout' /var/log/maillog*
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# grep 'Name server timeout' /var/log/messages*
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# chkconfig --list sendmail
sendmail0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off

so it seems as though you do have some DNS problem somewhere.

And I assure you that if there was an inherent problem with mail
delivery on Fedora-9, we'd be hearing plenty of moaning.

but since I have a server on the LAN that handles mail delivery (both on
the LAN and to the Internet), it's a waste of time for me to configure
each local system to deliver e-mail when all I need to do is just use my
server for smtp connections and if necessary, simply configure a
workstation to use my server as a smarthost.

Thus when I see you using e-mail addresses with zones (www) and errors
resolving them, it seems to me that it's simply errors caused by your
configuration which seems to be unnecessarily complicated and requires
that you notch up your troubleshooting capabilities.


Removing the www doesn't solve it either.


I recall that on Fedora 8, NetworkManager sysv init ran rather late in
the startup series but checking it out now, it starts much earlier and
certainly before SendMail so that shouldn't pose a problem (which is why
I suggested putting an entry in /etc/hosts).

Craig


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Re: F9 - sendmail won't send on startup?

2008-06-22 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 13:45 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:

 If you are bored, set your thunderbird to use localhost as the SMTP 
 server and try it.  And try to email your local server so you are sure 
 it isn't some ISP blocking problem.

worked fine - no adjustment nor sendmail restart necessary

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Re: Wireless problems.

2008-06-22 Thread Mike
Mark Haney mhaney at ercbroadband.org writes:

 Yeah that would probably help.  Actually, I'm just connection.  It's a 
 wireless card but no encryption involved.  It's a straight up 

Yes but how are you trying to connect?

Do you have a simple /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0?
Do you have onboot=yes in this file?
Then are you doing ifup wlan0 to try and connect if it is not running at
boot time?

Or do you have wpa_supplicant for an open connection? You can use
wpa_supplicant to make a simple connection with no encryption.

What is the output of ifconfig as root? 
What is the output of iwconfig as root once connected.

Is dhclient running after you boot up?
Do you set a fixed ip address in the ifcfg-xxx file?

I think if you send some of this information people can offer some
advice...

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Re: FC 9 Installation Input/output error, dmesg output

2008-06-22 Thread Daniel Kirsten
 
 sd 4:0:0:0: [sda] 390721968 512-byte hardware sectors (200050 MB)
 
 Your disk reports one size
 
 sda: rw=0, want=532056072, limit=390721968
 Buffer I/O error on device sda3, logical block 0
 
 but your partition table thinks the disk is an entirely different size

I striped two 200GB HDD to a 400GB HDD (hardware RAID). 
The partition table claims that there is a 400GB HDD, but LINUX assumes 
two separate 200GB HDD's

I replaced the first HDD by a different HDD, turned RAID off and booted 
without libata.dma=1,  and the problem occured again. 

Then, I booted using libata.dma=1, and the problem disappeared!!!

A thousand thanks to Alan Cox

If some developer is interested, then I can provide more information and 
make some more experiments. 

Best regards,  Daniel

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Re: Wireless problems.

2008-06-22 Thread Mark Haney

Mike wrote:

Mark Haney mhaney at ercbroadband.org writes:

Yes but how are you trying to connect?

Do you have a simple /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0?
Do you have onboot=yes in this file?
Then are you doing ifup wlan0 to try and connect if it is not running at
boot time?

Or do you have wpa_supplicant for an open connection? You can use
wpa_supplicant to make a simple connection with no encryption.

What is the output of ifconfig as root? 
What is the output of iwconfig as root once connected.


Is dhclient running after you boot up?
Do you set a fixed ip address in the ifcfg-xxx file?

I think if you send some of this information people can offer some
advice...



I totally misunderstood your question, I'm sorry about that.  I connect 
via a simple ifcfg-xx file.  I don't use NM for anything.  I don't have 
dhclient running since I gave it a static IP.  That's not ever been a 
problem before, it's been a static IP since I put the card in the box a 
half year ago.


Here's the output you asked for:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ifconfig
loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:3834 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:3834 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:217134 (212.0 KiB)  TX bytes:217134 (212.0 KiB)

wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1E:E5:20:BF:BA
  inet addr:192.168.2.3  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:19 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:179 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:1275 (1.2 KiB)  TX bytes:25462 (24.8 KiB)

wmaster0  Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr 
00-1E-E5-20-BF-BA-28-D5-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00

  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# iwconfig
lono wireless extensions.

eth0  no wireless extensions.

wmaster0  no wireless extensions.

wlan0 IEEE 802.11  ESSID:EsSID
  Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: 
00:11:50:54:0E:C7

  Tx-Power=14 dBm
  Retry min limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr=2352 B
  Encryption key:off
  Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
  Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
  Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0

sit0  no wireless extensions.


I can tell from iwconfig that it looks to be not getting a signal, but I 
 know the signal strength has always been good at this location, and my 
XP boot on this system (I know, but it's only for games and testing 
windows apps) that signal strength is perfect on it.  The AP is only 
about 15 ft from the system.


Does this help?



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Weird iwl3945 wireless problem

2008-06-22 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
My laptop has an Intel 3945 wireless builtin.  Under F9, I've had very 
few problems with it connecting.  At home, I have a Linksys wrt54g and 
connect using WPA security.  Work fine (95% of the time).  Same at my 
mother's house, where I set up a similar router.  I'm using NetworkMangler.


This past weekend, I went on vacation to an inn.  In the barn they 
offered free wireless.  WEP encrypted, and they gave me the passphrase.


NM found the network right off, and asked me for the passphrase.  WHen 
it prompted, it asked for the WEP 128 passphrase.  I typed it in.
The attempt timed out after 45 seconds, prompting for me to re-enter the 
passphrase, but this time, its a WEP 40/128 Hexadecimal and passphrase 
its trying to use is different from what I originally typed in, though I 
might believe it is the passphrase encrypted for the network its trying 
to connect to.  Subsequent attempts to connect fail, whether I use what 
it presents back to me, or I re-select WEP-128 Passphrase and re-type in 
the passphrase.


Now, here's the funny part.  When I retired to my room (which is 
supposedly out of range of the inn's wireless, since that network no 
longer appears in the network list), it connected right away to a nearby 
non-secured network.


So, NM works for me with WPA and with no security, but not with WEP? 
(Size of test sets:  2, 1, 1)


So, can someone tell me, please, if NM is broken (and I should file a 
bug), or if I was doing something wrong, and what I should have done in 
order to connect to the inn's network.


I'm including a cut/paste of my /var/log/messages for one of NM's 
connection attempts.  It looks to me like NM found the network, and 
tried to connect, but died during DHCP lookup (ie, never got a response 
from the serving router).


Jun 20 14:49:58 kjclap NetworkManager: info  Activation (eth1) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled... 
Jun 20 14:49:58 kjclap NetworkManager: info  Activation (eth1) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started... 
Jun 20 14:49:58 kjclap NetworkManager: info  (eth1): device state change: 6 - 4 
Jun 20 14:49:58 kjclap NetworkManager: info  Activation (eth1) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled... 
Jun 20 14:49:58 kjclap NetworkManager: info  Activation (eth1) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete. 
Jun 20 14:49:58 kjclap NetworkManager: info  Activation (eth1) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting... 
Jun 20 14:49:58 kjclap NetworkManager: info  (eth1): device state change: 4 - 5 
Jun 20 14:49:58 kjclap NetworkManager: info  Activation (eth1/wireless): connection 'Auto Lake Shore Farm' has security, and secrets exist.  No new secrets needed. 
Jun 20 14:49:58 kjclap NetworkManager: info  Config: added 'ssid' value 'Lake Shore Farm' 
Jun 20 14:49:58 kjclap NetworkManager: info  Config: added 'scan_ssid' value '1' 
Jun 20 14:49:58 kjclap NetworkManager: info  Config: added 'key_mgmt' value 'NONE' 
Jun 20 14:49:58 kjclap NetworkManager: info  Config: added 'auth_alg' value 'OPEN' 
Jun 20 14:49:58 kjclap NetworkManager: info  Config: added 'wep_key0' value 'omitted' 
Jun 20 14:49:58 kjclap NetworkManager: info  Config: added 'wep_tx_keyidx' value '0' 
Jun 20 14:49:58 kjclap NetworkManager: info  Activation (eth1) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete. 
Jun 20 14:49:58 kjclap NetworkManager: info  (eth1): supplicant connection state change: 7 - 0 
Jun 20 14:49:58 kjclap NetworkManager: info  Config: set interface ap_scan to 1 
Jun 20 14:49:58 kjclap NetworkManager: info  (eth1): supplicant connection state change: 0 - 2 
Jun 20 14:50:02 kjclap NetworkManager: info  (eth1): supplicant connection state change: 2 - 3 
Jun 20 14:50:02 kjclap NetworkManager: info  (eth1): supplicant connection state change: 3 - 0 
Jun 20 14:50:03 kjclap NetworkManager: info  (eth1): supplicant connection state change: 0 - 4 
Jun 20 14:50:03 kjclap NetworkManager: info  (eth1): supplicant connection state change: 4 - 7 
Jun 20 14:50:03 kjclap NetworkManager: info  Activation (eth1/wireless) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) successful.  Connected to wireless network 'Lake Shore Farm'. 
Jun 20 14:50:03 kjclap NetworkManager: info  Activation (eth1) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) scheduled. 
Jun 20 14:50:03 kjclap NetworkManager: info  Activation (eth1) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) started... 
Jun 20 14:50:03 kjclap NetworkManager: info  (eth1): device state change: 5 - 7 
Jun 20 14:50:03 kjclap NetworkManager: info  Activation (eth1) Beginning DHCP transaction. 
Jun 20 14:50:03 kjclap NetworkManager: info  dhclient started with pid 8502 
Jun 20 14:50:03 kjclap NetworkManager: info  Activation (eth1) Stage 3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) complete. 
Jun 20 14:50:03 kjclap dhclient: Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.0.0

Jun 20 14:50:03 kjclap dhclient: Copyright 2004-2007 Internet Systems 
Consortium.
Jun 20 14:50:03 kjclap dhclient: All rights reserved.
Jun 20 14:50:03 kjclap dhclient: For info, please visit 
http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
Jun 20 14:50:03 kjclap 

Re: OT How to get National Public Radio FM on Rythmbox

2008-06-22 Thread William Case
Hi Tom and all;

On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 13:08 -0400, tom wrote: 
 On Sun, 22 Jun 2008, William Case wrote:
 
  Hi all and thanks;
 
  On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 05:21 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
  On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 23:56 -0400, William Case wrote:
  Hi -- particularly to my American friends.
 snip
  http://www.npr.org/audiohelp/progstream.html
 
  There's also a list of NPR stations at http://www.npr.org/stations/.
  You could stream any of those.

[snip]

  Loved the car guys.
 
 
 Its been a quarter century since I lived in northern new england, but as I 
 remember Maine's NPR stations are all run pretty much as a single system. 
 That said, NPR is a collection of diverse local stations, most of which 
 their own programming.  WFAE, one of my local outlets, runs to jazz and 
 talk radio. WDAV, another local outlet with less NPR sourced material, is 
 almost entirely classical (just a touch of news). The South Carolina 
 outlet just to the south of here (Charlotte NC) has yet another flavor, 
 but my reception is quite weak so I'm not sure what their mix is.
 
 If you liked the mix from Maine Public Broadcasting, you might want to 
 search for them, as I have no clue what their various station call signs 
 are. Otherwise, I'm afraid you have a manual search for something worth 
 listening to.
 
 FWIW, the car guys are Car Talk if memory serves.
 

Spent the whole afternoon getting NPR running on Rythmbox.  I was
overwhelmed by the logic and simplicity of it all.  I wish the
developers would stop that.

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Re: kde-redhat

2008-06-22 Thread Kevin Kofler
kwhiskerz kwhiskerz at gmail.com writes:
 And, yes, there are some conflicts. I found that I had to uninstall
 kipi-plugins, digikam, libkipi and libkdcraw.

That's https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452392

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Re: F9 - sendmail won't send on startup?

2008-06-22 Thread Knute Johnson

Craig White wrote:

On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 13:45 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:

If you are bored, set your thunderbird to use localhost as the SMTP 
server and try it.  And try to email your local server so you are sure 
it isn't some ISP blocking problem.


worked fine - no adjustment nor sendmail restart necessary

Craig



OK.  So what's different about my two computers from yours?

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Re: F9 - sendmail won't send on startup?

2008-06-22 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 14:55 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
 Craig White wrote:
  On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 13:45 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote:
  
  If you are bored, set your thunderbird to use localhost as the SMTP 
  server and try it.  And try to email your local server so you are sure 
  it isn't some ISP blocking problem.
  
  worked fine - no adjustment nor sendmail restart necessary
  
  Craig
  
 
 OK.  So what's different about my two computers from yours?

DNS?

but again, I don't see the need to route e-mail through the local system
when I've got a fully configured smtp server on my LAN.

Craig

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Re: Wide, flat, weird : HP w2207h with F8 F9

2008-06-22 Thread Beartooth
On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:05:20 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:

 On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:44:25 + (UTC) Beartooth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 Is there some secret driver somewhere that I should be getting?
 
 Depends on what driver you have now. The nv driver has problems with
 lots of video cards and monitors:
 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=234824
 
 as does the potential replacement nouveau driver:
 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=447526
 
 So, if you have an nvidia card, the best bet for a working driver is to
 add the livna repo and download the kmod-nvidia driver.
 
 You could take a look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and see if is says
 things like Oh look, I'm supposed to run this display at 1680x1050, but
 I don't think that's a good idea :-).

Hmmm ... I *think* the PackageKit in F9 (when it get to it) will 
let me do that with a couple of clicks. I know there's a way to add livna 
to F8 -- I've done it -- but it's been a while. I *think* I browse to 
livna.org, download an rpm, install it, and then just use yum as always, 
with one more file yum.repos.d; I'll check those things, and if it's so, 
I'm golden -- no reply required. If I'm confused, prithee divulge one 
more such excellent clue!

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Re: Wide, flat, weird : HP w2207h with F8 F9

2008-06-22 Thread Beartooth
On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:05:20 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:

 So, if you have an nvidia card, the best bet for a working driver is to
 add the livna repo and download the kmod-nvidia driver.

I *think* so; what I know of hardware would go comfortably in a 
gnat's eye.

I do now have livna on all three Fedora machines that use this 
monitor; and have run or am running yum update. But I don't know how to 
download -- just yum install kmod-nvidia? Or kmod-nvidia-driver? Or 
kmod-nvidia_driver? Or 
 
 You could take a look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and see if is says
 things like Oh look, I'm supposed to run this display at 1680x1050, but
 I don't think that's a good idea :-).

Doing that now ...

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Re: Wide, flat, weird : HP w2207h with F8 F9

2008-06-22 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 22:56 +, Beartooth wrote:
 On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:05:20 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
 
  So, if you have an nvidia card, the best bet for a working driver is to
  add the livna repo and download the kmod-nvidia driver.
 
   I *think* so; what I know of hardware would go comfortably in a 
 gnat's eye.
 
   I do now have livna on all three Fedora machines that use this 
 monitor; and have run or am running yum update. But I don't know how to 
 download -- just yum install kmod-nvidia? Or kmod-nvidia-driver? Or 
 kmod-nvidia_driver? Or 

http://rpm.livna.org/rlowiki/LivnaSwitcher

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Re: Wide, flat, weird : HP w2207h with F8 F9

2008-06-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:56:41 + (UTC)
Beartooth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:05:20 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
 
  So, if you have an nvidia card, the best bet for a working driver is to
  add the livna repo and download the kmod-nvidia driver.
 
   I *think* so; what I know of hardware would go comfortably in a 
 gnat's eye.
 
   I do now have livna on all three Fedora machines that use this 
 monitor; and have run or am running yum update. But I don't know how to 
 download -- just yum install kmod-nvidia? Or kmod-nvidia-driver? Or 
 kmod-nvidia_driver? Or 

yum install kmod-nvidia will probably work, or you could search for
nvidia in whatever the new PackageKit tool is (probably under
something like Add/Remove software in the menus).

  
  You could take a look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and see if is says
  things like Oh look, I'm supposed to run this display at 1680x1050, but
  I don't think that's a good idea :-).
 
   Doing that now ...
 

The log file will have lines with (NV) on them if you are using the
nv driver. Possibly the installer generated xorg.conf file will also
mention the nv driver.

If its not an nvidia card, you definitely don't want to install the
nvidia drivers :-).

I think the lspci tool can also give you a good hint about what hardware
is on the system.

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Re: Weird iwl3945 wireless problem

2008-06-22 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
My laptop has an Intel 3945 wireless builtin.  Under F9, I've had very 
few problems with it connecting.  At home, I have a Linksys wrt54g and 
connect using WPA security.  Work fine (95% of the time).  Same at my 
mother's house, where I set up a similar router.  I'm using NetworkMangler.


This past weekend, I went on vacation to an inn.  In the barn they 
offered free wireless.  WEP encrypted, and they gave me the passphrase.


NM found the network right off, and asked me for the passphrase.  WHen 
it prompted, it asked for the WEP 128 passphrase.  I typed it in.
The attempt timed out after 45 seconds, prompting for me to re-enter the 
passphrase, but this time, its a WEP 40/128 Hexadecimal and passphrase 
its trying to use is different from what I originally typed in, though I 
might believe it is the passphrase encrypted for the network its trying 
to connect to.  Subsequent attempts to connect fail, whether I use what 
it presents back to me, or I re-select WEP-128 Passphrase and re-type in 
the passphrase.


Now, here's the funny part.  When I retired to my room (which is 
supposedly out of range of the inn's wireless, since that network no 
longer appears in the network list), it connected right away to a nearby 
non-secured network.


So, NM works for me with WPA and with no security, but not with WEP? 
(Size of test sets:  2, 1, 1)


So, can someone tell me, please, if NM is broken (and I should file a 
bug), or if I was doing something wrong, and what I should have done in 
order to connect to the inn's network.


I'm including a cut/paste of my /var/log/messages for one of NM's 
connection attempts.  It looks to me like NM found the network, and 
tried to connect, but died during DHCP lookup (ie, never got a response 
from the serving router).


One thing I have run into with NM and WEP is that you may have to 
tell it that is is a restricted network and a shared key. The reason 
for this is that when the router is set up that way, you have to 
make an encrypted connection BEFORE you try to get a dhcp lease. If 
you don't, then the router will not give you a lease.


One other thing - if I remember right, the default setup asks for 
the 128 bit key as ASCII, or hex. (Start with 0x for hex.) It does 
not want the pass phrase itself. There is a selection where you can 
give it the pass phrase, and it will generate the hex or ASCII key. 
I don't remember exactly how to access it - I am not on my laptop, 
and it has not had to do it for a while.


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Re: Weird iwl3945 wireless problem

2008-06-22 Thread Kevin J. Cummings

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

One thing I have run into with NM and WEP is that you may have to tell 
it that is is a restricted network and a shared key. The reason for this 
is that when the router is set up that way, you have to make an 
encrypted connection BEFORE you try to get a dhcp lease. If you don't, 
then the router will not give you a lease.


Interesting info.  I wish I knew that while I was still there and could 
play around.  In all of my attempts, I seem to remember trying both Open 
Network (the default) and Shared Key.  I wish NM was more verbose in the 
*reason* it couldn't get a lease.  I get really frustrated not knowing 
how to tweak things and only hearing:  Wrong, try again!


One other thing - if I remember right, the default setup asks for the 
128 bit key as ASCII, or hex. (Start with 0x for hex.) It does not want 
the pass phrase itself. There is a selection where you can give it the 
pass phrase, and it will generate the hex or ASCII key. I don't remember 
exactly how to access it - I am not on my laptop, and it has not had to 
do it for a while.


If I delete the network and start again, it prompts for the passphrase. 
 After I've entered it, every subsequent attempt by NM uses the Hex 
encrypted key, but it never started with 0x.  I would have thought that 
even though WEP is less secure than it was designed to be, that it would 
be better known by software like NM and be easier to use!  When the inn 
tells me no one else is having problems connecting that Linux Wireless 
(in particular the tools that support it) isn't where it needs to be yet.


There was a 3rd WEP option available to me while I was playing around, I 
think it was WEP 40/128 ASCII.  I wasn't able to use the passphrase or 
the encrypted string here either.



Mikkel


Thanks for the response.  Does anyone have a resource I can use to catch 
up on this stuff?  Obviously there is a lot I need to learn to be able 
to use tools like NM effectively.


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Re: nautilus gone! --fixed

2008-06-22 Thread Gerhard Magnus

On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 12:53 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
 On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:39:28 -0700
 Gerhard Magnus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  What's going on? How can I get my desktop and file manager back?
 
 I can't say what it going on. The same thing just happened to me
 on a new install, but a reboot got everything back to normal, so
 whatever it was, wasn't permanent.
 
I ended up having to install nautilus and its related packages.


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Re: Wireless problems.

2008-06-22 Thread Jim

Mark Haney wrote:

Jim wrote:

Mark Haney wrote:
I've had this F8 box working perfectly for the last 4 months or so 
and for some reason now (and I assume this is due to the last round 
of updates, but I don't know for certain, my wireless link (linksys 
54g card) refuses to come up and connect. In dmesg I get lots of 
'link not ready' messages.  And even though the card was set to 
startup on boot, I had to unset and reset that option to make that 
work.


Even when I manually set I set it up, it doesn't want to come up.  
The module is loaded, it just isn't behaving.  Could it be kernel 
related perhaps?  I don't know where to start debugging this, since 
it all LOOKS right.



First , what version of Fedora you using
Second , give the output of /sbin/lspci -v on your wireless card



Fedora 8.  (that's in the OP, but not real noticeable)

lspci -v

02:09.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
Subsystem: Linksys WMP54G ver 4.1
Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 64, IRQ 21
Memory at e810 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
Kernel driver in use: rt61pci
Kernel modules: rt61pci

The only thing I've changed on this box recently has been the kernel 
and associated updates.


It's not changed position, or anything like that.  The AP moved about 
10 feet, but until the beginning of this week this box worked great 
with the AP in the new spot.




Restart your computer and see if the wireless card still works in the 
older Kernel.

Did you compile this driver to work on Fedora ?

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Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-22 Thread Kelly Miller


On June 22, 2008 8:00:27 am Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
 Em Domingo 22 Junho 2008, Kelly Miller escreveu:
   And don't give me the crap that Fedora is bleeding edge software.
   F9 is beyond bleeding, its suicidal.
 
  Actually, I find that greatly ironic, as I switched temporarily to
  openSUSE because IMO Fedora isn't moving fast ENOUGH for my taste.  I
  really really want to run KDE 4.1 (which IS most definitely usable as
  a desktop, and a rather excellent one I might add), but Fedora only
  has it in Rawhide, and uh... Rawhide blows up way too often for my
  liking.  I'm probably going to switch back to Fedora when KDE 4.1 is
  finally released for Fedora 9.

 KDE 4.0.83 is available for Fedora in kde-redhat unstable repo. It works
 quite well.

 []'s
 Marcelo

That had to have changed recently (as in, the last month or so), because I 
actually checked for a F-9 port of KDE 4.1 beta in kde-redhat when I upgraded, 
and didn't find one.  I always hook into kde-redhat, even though it's not as 
much use now as it was when I started with FC5 (since most of what kde-redhat 
had is now in Fedora itself).

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Re: Wireless problems.

2008-06-22 Thread Timothy Murphy
Mark Haney wrote:

 I totally misunderstood your question, I'm sorry about that.  I connect
 via a simple ifcfg-xx file.  I don't use NM for anything.  I don't have
 dhclient running since I gave it a static IP.  That's not ever been a
 problem before, it's been a static IP since I put the card in the box a
 half year ago.

I'm surprised to hear myself saying this, but why not try NM?
I know it's meant to have problems with fixed IP,
but it cannot do any harm to try.

I've usually found the information in /var/log/messages is quite helpful
with WiFi problems.

Also it might be worth trying iwlist scan as root.
And wifi-radar is sometimes helpful.



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