Re: [echo] video-display sketches
Ian Weller wrote: Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Derived from computer icon. 16x16 is intentionally omitted because it will be a system-lock-screen variation. These icons will be the base of other variants such as resolution. Feedback welcome. I enjoy that you (basically) used the Fedora 9 Waves wallpaper. ;) Yup, +1 for the effort. But if we aim Echo as a default for F10, F10 will have a different wallpaper, so maybe is better to stay with something more release-neutral? (it would be uber-cool to have the real wallpaper for each release in the icons, but I doubt we will follow this) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [echo] video-display sketches
Nicu Buculei wrote: But if we aim Echo as a default for F10, F10 will have a different wallpaper, so maybe is better to stay with something more release-neutral? (it would be uber-cool to have the real wallpaper for each release in the icons, but I doubt we will follow this) You could possibly talk to mizmo and see if we can add something like that to the release cycle. Then again, it might be a good idea to even keep it distro-neutral, just in case another distro wants to use our icons. -- Ian Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet. ~ Douglas Adams ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [echo] video-display sketches
Ian Weller wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: But if we aim Echo as a default for F10, F10 will have a different wallpaper, so maybe is better to stay with something more release-neutral? (it would be uber-cool to have the real wallpaper for each release in the icons, but I doubt we will follow this) You could possibly talk to mizmo and see if we can add something like that to the release cycle. That's not a problem, it is just a formality. The really hard part is to find an Echo developer willing to keep with this task (and updating not only this icon but also things like the computer icon which is put on the default desktop) when we have already tons of icons needed. Then again, it might be a good idea to even keep it distro-neutral, just in case another distro wants to use our icons. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [echo] video-display sketches
Quoting Ian Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Then again, it might be a good idea to even keep it distro-neutral, just in case another distro wants to use our icons. Gentoo and Mandriva already got Echo on their repositories. Apparently, Xubuntu artwork team are keeping eyes as well. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2008-June/006275.html I originally considered to make different version of video-display depending of distributions, I realized the task will be too much although the source SVG are available. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [echo] video-display sketches
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 20:10 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Derived from computer icon. 16x16 is intentionally omitted because it will be a system-lock-screen variation. These icons will be the base of other variants such as resolution. Feedback welcome. Luya The 22x22 version could be perhaps more simplified. Overall it looks good :) As for the wallpapers, IIRC we'd need to refresh the wallpaper twice a year for these icons: * computer * video-display * system-lock-screen and optionally for * preferences-desktop-wallpaper * network-workgroup. Other distros can either keep it, or patch it to include theirs. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] start-here icon DRAFT
Magically converts fedora into epic pacman tribute... =) On 7/3/08, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 18:21 -0400, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Quoting Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 19:34 +0200, Mark wrote: 2008/6/29 Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I like the icon! but not for the place you made it.. i would never want to see that icon as my start icon.. So it's good but try to find another purpose for it. Something with sound would work well i think. You have a point there, I can imagine it being used for IM applications like empathy, gajim or pidgin, now that you mention it... My point behind the decision for start-here was because the icon I used is main part of the new echo-icon-theme logo and start-here is IMHO a good place to show the logo (and it will most likely be replaced by fedora logo when echo is made default fedora theme). Maybe remove one wave will work. I decided to remove the waves altogether. Makes the icon less cluttered and would probably work better in the place it is designed for. Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- http://scwlab.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Software Freedom Day t-shirts
Hi folks! While enjoying the discussions posted at the Brazilian Ambassadors list, I created a layout for the Software Freedom Day T-shirt ( http://softwarefreedomday.org ), Some of those Ambassadors offered to make such T-shirt for the event. I´ll post that at wiki when they are finished. http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/tShirt-SFDay08.png http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/tShirt-SFDay08.svg By the way, I´ve added an Artwork/T-Shirt design I made for the Fedora Ambassadors in Brazil - inspired by the art of the video http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/02/video-meet-the-fedora-ambassadors/ ) produced after FISL 7.0 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt#Events cheers -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com www.projetofedora.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Software Freedom Day t-shirts
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, Jayme Ayres wrote: http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/tShirt-SFDay08.png http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/tShirt-SFDay08.svg I can't seem to connect to your server. -- ian -- Ian Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet. ~ Douglas Adams ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] start-here icon DRAFT
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 21:30 +0300, Pavel Shevchuk wrote: Magically converts fedora into epic pacman tribute... =) Me wonders how long has it been since I last played pacman :-D Now we can only hope the icon won't start moving and eat the menu :-p Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] start-here icon DRAFT
Does anyone know what the policy on re-using (or remixing perhaps is a better term) the official Fedora wallpaper is? Here is the context: I am doing some wallpaper for a podcast (hackerpublicradio.org) that will be distributing a promotional CD of previous episodes, along with some bonus material like wallpaper art, at the upcoming HOPE conference. I'd been using a blue gradient in the background of my design and then as I sat staring at my own desktop of choice (Fedora 9, naturally) I realized that the WAVES image could be a nice subtle hint at which Linux distro iswell, the coolest. The design in question would look like this were i to incorporate Waves: http://www.thebadapples.info/fedorareloaded/lateNightHacking_waves.png I could probably have the guy making the CDs include a README file to give credit where credit is due, too. - klaatu ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
art re-use policy
I just accidentally appended a completely unrelated question to an ongoing thread. Sorry everyone : / Here again, my question, as it's own thread: Does anyone know what the policy on re-using (or remixing perhaps is a better term) the official Fedora wallpaper is? Here is the context: I am doing some wallpaper for a podcast (hackerpublicradio.org) that will be distributing a promotional CD of previous episodes, along with some bonus material like wallpaper art, at the upcoming HOPE conference. I'd been using a blue gradient in the background of my design and then as I sat staring at my own desktop of choice (Fedora 9, naturally) I realized that the WAVES image could be a nice subtle hint at which Linux distro iswell, the coolest. The design in question would look like this were i to incorporate Waves: http://www.thebadapples.info/fedorareloaded/lateNightHacking_waves.png I could probably have the guy making the CDs include a README file to give credit where credit is due, too. -- --- use linux. support free software. subscribe to http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml http://www.thebadapples.info/fedorareloaded/ogg.xml ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] start-here icon DRAFT
Klaatu and Gort wrote: Does anyone know what the policy on re-using (or remixing perhaps is a better term) the official Fedora wallpaper is? IIRC, all of the artwork is GPL or dual licensed under GPL/ Creative Commons attribution share alike license. At any rate, remixing is explicitly allowed for any Fedora artwork as long as you give credit. So reusing the artwork while putting a note somewhere on the original source should do. Rahul PS: Avoid thread hijacking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_hijacking ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Software Freedom Day t-shirts
Hi Jayme! Jayme Ayres wrote: Hi folks! While enjoying the discussions posted at the Brazilian Ambassadors list, I created a layout for the Software Freedom Day T-shirt ( http://softwarefreedomday.org ), Some of those Ambassadors offered to make such T-shirt for the event. I´ll post that at wiki when they are finished. http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/tShirt-SFDay08.png http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/tShirt-SFDay08.svg Your software freedom day shirts and logo look *great*! Good job!! What is the license on the design? Thanks for sharing them with us! ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: art re-use policy
Hey! Klaatu and Gort wrote: The design in question would look like this were i to incorporate Waves: http://www.thebadapples.info/fedorareloaded/lateNightHacking_waves.png I could probably have the guy making the CDs include a README file to give credit where credit is due, too. I really, *really* like your Hacker Public radio design, very nice! The Fedora waves artwork is officially licensed under the GPL (which I understand isn't the best for artwork). Are you okay with sharing your artwork under the GPL or a similar license in spirit? (eg Creative Commons Attribute ShareAlike?) If you are willing to do that, then you're definitely fine to use it. If you aren't able to share under such a license (eg if the hacker public radio logo is something you want to protect), I did the original artwork for that image so we can talk about it a bit more. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[Bug 454078] Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454078 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-04 09:19 EST --- Cc-ed fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com have more attention. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 454078] Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454078 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added CC||fedora-fonts-bugs- ||[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 181994] Review Request: doulos-fonts - Doulos SIL fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: doulos-fonts - Doulos SIL fonts https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=181994 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added QAContact|fedora-extras- |fedora-package- |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |[EMAIL PROTECTED] Severity|normal |medium Priority|normal |medium Product|Fedora Extras |Fedora Version|devel |rawhide [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added CC||fedora-fonts-bugs- ||[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 181994] Review Request: doulos-fonts - Doulos SIL fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: doulos-fonts - Doulos SIL fonts https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=181994 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added CC|fedora-fonts-bugs- | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 452317] Review Request: heuristica-fonts - Heuristica font
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: heuristica-fonts - Heuristica font https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452317 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-04 10:47 EST --- (In reply to comment #7) BTW utopia is referenced there http://directory.fsf.org/project/utopia/ if that's worth anything Not really. The FSF isn't concerned at all with patents, only that it is under a free license. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 454078] Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454078 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 454078] Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454078 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-04 16:55 EST --- Last remark : this font set is very rich, with ~ 1 MiB for the resulting rpm, it would be nice to split it in 2 ~ 500 KiB subpackages (discuss with upstream what would be a user-friendly split) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 454078] Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454078 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|NEEDINFO Flag||needinfo?([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-04 16:58 EST --- Anyway: 1. please take care of the licensing (blocker) 2. try to split the file (nice-to-have) 3. work a bit on the package description (as suggested, or if you have better ideas) Then I'll approve the package (don't wait before I leave for summer vacations) Thank you for packaging a new font! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 453017] Review Request: un-fonts-extra - Korean TrueType fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: un-fonts-extra - Korean TrueType fonts https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453017 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-04 17:42 EST --- 6. I'd really name the package un-extra-fonts. un-fonts-extra/un-fonts-core makes it look like they're both subpackages of the same srpm -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
Fonts packaging amendment
Hi, I'm proposing the following amendment: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Packaging_font_bundles to our fonts packaging policy: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/FontsPolicy (official page, broken by the wiki migration) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fonts_packaging_policy (unofficial cleaned-up font page ; I hope someone will the right accesses picks it up) Nothing earth-shattering, just a write-up of our current unwritten rules Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ Fedora-fonts-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list
Debian's working on a font tarball template - please check and comment
Message transféré De: Nicolas Spalinger À: OFLB The note maybe but zipping font files with a detached .TXT file is good practice and should be promoted. Indeed. 100% agreed :-) I'd also highly recommend a file in the release tarball describing the chosen licensing and some kind of readme/changelog. Actually that's why the OFL is promoting the concept of a FONTLOG and provides a template. BTW, here's a proposed VCS branch and tarball template for an open font: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-fonts/foo-open-font-sources/?rev=0sc=0 Your feedback very welcome, Cheers, -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ Fedora-fonts-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list
Re: Debian's working on a font tarball template - please check and comment
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Message transféré De: Nicolas Spalinger À: OFLB The note maybe but zipping font files with a detached .TXT file is good practice and should be promoted. Indeed. 100% agreed :-) I'd also highly recommend a file in the release tarball describing the chosen licensing and some kind of readme/changelog. Actually that's why the OFL is promoting the concept of a FONTLOG and provides a template. BTW, here's a proposed VCS branch and tarball template for an open font: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-fonts/foo-open-font-sources/?rev=0sc=0 Your feedback very welcome, Cheers, Dear Nicolas (and everyone), Thanks for fwd-ing to the Fedora list :-) Let me quickly add that this is not intended to be Debian-specific at all but comes from suggestions and discussions with SIL designers, various people at the last LGM (Libre Graphics Meeting) TLM (TextLayoutMeeting) and UDS (Ubuntu Developer Summit). More like a cross-distro, cross-OS type spec actually. The purpose is to make life easier for designers/script engineers wanting to use a (D)VCS for collaborative open font design and *also* for packagers who make this work available in the distros :-) Awaiting your feedback. Cheers, -- Nicolas Spalinger http://scripts.sil.org http://pkg-fonts.alioth.debian.org/ https://launchpad.net/people/fonts signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Fedora-fonts-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list
Engadget, Essays1743, Isabella, Rockets, and StayPuft fonts.
Greetings all... I have just submitted a package with all 5 of the fonts mentioned in the subject line. The review request is listed here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454128 This is my first package, so I am looking for a sponsor. Feedback is always appreciated. Lyos Gemini Norezel ___ Fedora-fonts-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list
Re: Need a hand...
Jeffrey Ollie wrote: On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone in the sysadmin-hosted group able to work on this project? https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/508 And actually, if someone wanted to split that ticket into multiple requests (maybe even the OP) it'd be easier to track which ones have been done. I have worked on the conversion of these projects from their CVS to SVN. I have SVN dumpfiles, what next? I think this is also time that I say I would like to be a active helper in the group. I have been doing general sysadmin stuff for about 5-6 years now. Quite good with Apache/Tomcat/Mail/LDAP/Nagios. Can do bash/perl. Have maintained CVS and svn (though I would not say I am an expert or know a lot there). Understand a bit of Puppet and Xen. For Fedora Infrastructure, I think I would be helpful in sysadmin-hosted, sysadmin-cvs, sysadmin-web. But am willing to work on whatever else needs to get done :). -- Thanks, Saurabh Bathe Senior Systems Administrator Red Hat, Inc ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: gspca as part of the rawhide kernel?
2008/7/3 Hans de Goede [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, As some of you know I've been working on improving webcam support under Fedora, see: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterWebcamSupport http://hansdegoede.livejournal.com/ One of the things I've been working on is in beating gspcav2 (a v4l2 port of gspca) into shape, although I must admit most of the work has been done by Jean-François Moine, the latest version is available from his mercurial tree and it has been pulled into the official v4l-dvb tree for wider testing. Once it has been in the v4l-dvb tree it will make its way into the mainline hopefuly for 2.6.27, if not then certainly fotr 2.6.28. To check it out see: http://linuxtv.org/hg/~jfrancois/gspca/ Some time ago I've already done a review of the gspca_core and there are some locking issues to solve (I already know how, I just need to code them out). Once this is done I would like to see gspcav2 be added to the Fedora kernel, as to make the: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterWebcamSupport Feature a reality (also needs userspace work, I'm on this). So my questions are: 1) would it be acceptable to cary the gspca driver as a patch (only new files and makefile / kconfig changes doesn't touch anything else) until it is merged upstream. Note that this is much needed for wider webcam support and that gspca is on its way to the mainline now, and I'll personally will be working on ironing out any issues upstream may have with gspca as is. 2) Assuming the answer to 1 is yes, how do I move forward, can I get be added to the kernel package acl, what are the procedures for adding a patch and building a new kernel, etc? Personally I'd love to see this in rawhide. If you have a patch that applies against the current rawhide kernel then scratch-building one in koji isn't too much of a greater leap. Maybe DaveJ and the other kernel bods would be happier if i's cleanly applying and won't need much maintenance. Just note in the kernel.spec to append a buildid (e.g. gspca) - more info here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/CustomKernel Cheers -- Christopher Brown http://www.chruz.com ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
Re: iwl3945 not working with lastest kernel update
Mogens Kjaer wrote: Jeff Gustafson wrote: ... For me, 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 works much better for my 3945 chip. I was having problems with release previous to -76. I would ssh to a machine and the session would hang. That problem now seemed to be fixed. What kind of encryption do you use on the wireless? Mogens I have a iwl4965 chip and the kernel release previous to -76 would lock up when attempting to connect to a WEP network, although it worked alright for WPA2. The -76 kernel is working fine, however. Endy -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora
2008/7/3 Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/7/3 Brian Mury [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 16:38 +0200, Antonio M wrote: Alt-F1 is not working on my system!!! so our problems are not completely similar. That should be Ctrl-Alt-F1. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list well I installed a kernel from F10, and everything is o.k., at leat graphic login is working again, and I can connect to my wireless network using my iwl3945. I have seen a post by Linville but I cannot find it -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag Anyway I filed a bug against kernel, even if I am not sure that it completely kernel related... Bugzilla Bug 454055: Latest updates prevent graphic login -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Gnome DVD CDA Autoplay default program
Hello everybody. I'm running Fedora 9 and using Gnome as desktop environment. I'm trying to figure out how to add items to the autoplay list for removable medias (DVD, Audio CD, etc...) handling. I found the removable media tab under the preferences for Nautilus, but I could only select one of the predefined entries, not adding my own. E.g. I'd like to add (and use) Amarok or KsCD for AudioCD and Xine/mplayer for DVD. I'd be happy to manually modify a config file, but I could not find anything that rang a bell looking under ~/.gnome ~/.gnome2 ~/.gconf . Any help/hint is appreciated! Fede -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: problems with rhythmbox after updating to udev-124-1.fc9.1
Antti J. Huhtala wrote: to, 2008-07-03 kello 21:56 +0300, Nicolae Ghimbovschi kirjoitti: Amarok in my case works just fine. Sorry, you're right. Amarok does work. My excuse is that I usually play CDs with rhythmbox and didn't know how to use Amarok properly. However, I have used Totem and KsCD for this purpose before and they won't play CDs now... Additionally, found strange behaviour: Ejecting the CD by clicking the CD symbol on the desktop (right button+eject) will eject the CD, but immediately after it has been ejected, the cd will be loaded again, so I have no chance to take it out. JB On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Antti J. Huhtala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to, 2008-07-03 kello 18:40 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: Somebody has seen this? Installing the most recent updates (july 3, 18:00 CEST), having problems to play music CDs with rhythmbox: Yes, and it happens in 64-bit systems, too. This does not apply to rhythmbox alone; Amarok, Totem, and KsCD refuse to play CDs as well. after inserting a music CD in the drive, the cd icon appears on the gnome desktop, but nothing is played, and no CD index is shown (see attachment). uname -r 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 $ uname -r 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.x86_64 rpm -q udev rhythmbox udev-124-1.fc9.1.i386 rhythmbox-0.11.5-13.fc9.i386 $ rpm -q udev rhythmbox udev-124-1.fc9.1.x86_64 rhythmbox-0.11.5-13.fc9.x86_64 Hopefully this problem will be fixed soon... Antti Thanks for correcting my error, Nicolae Antti -- Joachim Backes [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
F9: Scanning with canon lide-30 (USB) produces awful noises
Hi, my scanner is an USB scanner, Canon Lide-30. Since some weeks, sometimes when scanning, the scanner produces awful noises during scan (like a saw), and the scanner input is unusable. rpm -qa '*sane*' libsane-hpaio-2.8.2-2.fc9.i386 xsane-0.995-3.fc9.i386 xsane-gimp-0.995-3.fc9.i386 sane-backends-1.0.19-10.fc9.i386 sane-backends-libs-1.0.19-10.fc9.i386 Does somebody have similar problems? I think this is a software problem, because I never have this behaviour in WinXP. I found some entries in the Ubuntu forums, but no solution. Regards Joachim Backes [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
flash
flash player is not working with firefox 3 on fedora 8 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems with IPW3545 and latest kernel
Ricard Martí ricard.marti at gmail.com writes: Surfed with internet and seen that it's a bug but, there's a plan to solve it in a few days? Thanks! Just revert to the old kernel. It should even still be listed in GRUB. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: Scanning with canon lide-30 (USB) produces awful noises
Tim wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 09:48 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my scanner is an USB scanner, Canon Lide-30. Since some weeks, sometimes when scanning, the scanner produces awful noises during scan (like a saw), and the scanner input is unusable. I've had something similar, but my scanner is old, and the toothed belt that drives the sled up and down isn't as flexible as it used to be. If I pull the belt out of the mechanism, it doesn't spring back into a circular shape, it stays in a long thin loop, as if it were still wrapped around the cogs. Sometimes it does skip some teeth the first time I use it after it's sat untouched for weeks, or months. Tim, thanks for your answer, but, again, I think it's a software problem because I have no problems under WinXP. -- Joachim Backes [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
installing F9 on a DPT SCSI RAID
Hi, I am having problems installing F9 on a machine with a SCSI RAID board DPT(i2o) SmartRaid V. What happens is that the installation procedure gives no problems, I can see the single disk produced from the three RAID-5 disks and I can partition, format and install everything, but when I reboot I get: Unable to access resume device (/dev/i2o/hda2) mount: could not find filesystem '/dev/root/' setuproot: moving /dev failed: No such file or directory setuproot: error mounting /proc: No such file or directory setuproot: error mounting /sys: No such file or directory Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux: No such file or directory Switchroot: mount failed: No such file or directory as if the disk is not seen. I tried to look into the initrd image and it seems that the i2o_core module (which I think is the one used for the DPT) is there. I don't know where I can find a list of the hardware and drivers as /etc/syconfig/hwconf is not there anymore and can't find anything similar. This is my first F9 and a lot of stuff seems to be different form the old FC. Any help? Thanks, GianPiero -- GianPiero Puccioni |Istituto dei Sistemi Complessi-CNR gianpiero.puccioni(AT)isc.cnr.it |Via Madonna del Piano, 10 T:+39 0555226682 F:+39 0555226683|50019 Sesto F. (Firenze) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: problems with rhythmbox after updating to udev-124-1.fc9.1
Nicolae Ghimbovschi wrote: I have the same problem with rhythmbox, amarok works fine with audio cds. Almost the same problem and with the Sound Juicer, it detects the cd tracks but when I press play it hangs. 2008/7/3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Somebody has seen this? I guess there is a connection with http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451320 JB Installing the most recent updates (july 3, 18:00 CEST), having problems to play music CDs with rhythmbox: after inserting a music CD in the drive, the cd icon appears on the gnome desktop, but nothing is played, and no CD index is shown (see attachment). uname -r 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 rpm -q udev rhythmbox udev-124-1.fc9.1.i386 rhythmbox-0.11.5-13.fc9.i386 -- Joachim Backes [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- Joachim Backes [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Thunderbird and junkmail
Richard England wrote: Here I have set 'When I mark messages as junk, move them to the accounts junk folder'. I also have Mark messages determined to be junk as read set. Yep, I have identical settings to you here for all my accounts. - Enable adaptive junk mail controls for this account - Do not mark mail as junk if the sender is in: Personal Address Book - Trust junk mail headers set by: SpamPal - Move new junk messages to: Junk folder on : my account - Automatically delete junk mail older than 7 days. Yep, I have all of these set for each account except Trust junk mail headers and automatically delete is set to 14 days. Of course there are settings here you may wish to modify but this has been working for me for some time. I would verify that both sets of settings are as you wish them to be. Thanks Richard, as far as I can see it just looks like an esoteric bug which I have no idea how it's been triggered. The annoying thing is it used to work perfectly up until about two weeks ago when it just stopped, simultaneously for all accounts and it's been slowly driving me nuts ever since. :-) Thanks for the help. -- Ian Chapman. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: problems with rhythmbox after updating to udev-124-1.fc9.1
pe, 2008-07-04 kello 09:09 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: Antti J. Huhtala wrote: to, 2008-07-03 kello 21:56 +0300, Nicolae Ghimbovschi kirjoitti: Amarok in my case works just fine. Sorry, you're right. Amarok does work. My excuse is that I usually play CDs with rhythmbox and didn't know how to use Amarok properly. However, I have used Totem and KsCD for this purpose before and they won't play CDs now... Additionally, found strange behaviour: Ejecting the CD by clicking the CD symbol on the desktop (right button+eject) will eject the CD, but immediately after it has been ejected, the cd will be loaded again, so I have no chance to take it out. So it does. Same thing if you click on 'Eject' in the pop-up window asking whether to start rhythmbox or sound juicer. This call for budzilla report but against which component? JB Antti On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Antti J. Huhtala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to, 2008-07-03 kello 18:40 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: Somebody has seen this? Installing the most recent updates (july 3, 18:00 CEST), having problems to play music CDs with rhythmbox: Yes, and it happens in 64-bit systems, too. This does not apply to rhythmbox alone; Amarok, Totem, and KsCD refuse to play CDs as well. after inserting a music CD in the drive, the cd icon appears on the gnome desktop, but nothing is played, and no CD index is shown (see attachment). uname -r 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 $ uname -r 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.x86_64 rpm -q udev rhythmbox udev-124-1.fc9.1.i386 rhythmbox-0.11.5-13.fc9.i386 $ rpm -q udev rhythmbox udev-124-1.fc9.1.x86_64 rhythmbox-0.11.5-13.fc9.x86_64 Hopefully this problem will be fixed soon... Antti Thanks for correcting my error, Nicolae Antti -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems with IPW3545 and latest kernel
2008/7/4 Jonathan Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 07:43 +0200, Ricard Martí wrote: I've problems connecting wireless with IPW3545 (Intel Pro Wireless 3545) and latest kernel (kernel-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686). No problems were found on the previous kernel. Surfed with internet and seen that it's a bug but, there's a plan to solve it in a few days? That will depend on how long it takes to find out exactly what broke. Feel free to subscribe to the bug (add your e-mail address to the Cc: field). Which Bugzilla # would that be? I tried searching for 3945, and I can't find/recognize the appropriate entry. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Fedora how to
I have been researching various linux systems and based on my preferences Fedora is leading the pack. I would very much like to receive any specific Fedora how to sites. Allen Meyers-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO
Matthew Saltzman wrote: But it seems to me that it should be easy enough to cater for all users, by having a setting in some /etc/NM.conf which will allow NM to start with a specific connection before anyone logs in _if that is what one wants_, or if not requires the user to authenticate before connection. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/F9Common#networkmanager-static I read this, and followed the instructions there as well as I could, creating the following /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 -- DEVICE=eth1 ONBOOT=yes BOOTPROTO=dhcp NM_CONTROLLED=Yes HWADDR=00:02:2D:21:03:C9 IPADDR=192.168.2.19 NETWORK=192.168.2.0 GATEWAY=192.168.2.2 TYPE=Wireless DHCP_HOSTNAME=mary.gayleard.com IPV6INIT=no ESSID=dd-wrt KEY=secret -- But the effect of installing this was to stop NM working. (It had been working perfectly.) Actually, WiFi appeared to be working from the flashing lights on my WiFi card, but I got the message Network unavailable. In any case, as far as I could see NM (or nm-applet) did not start up until I logged in, as usual, so even if this had worked I don't think it would improved matters. As I said before, the fact that NM starts late does not actually worry me too much, I just find it puzzling. To date I have 4 files in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/ to run various programs (eg NFS mount) which have to wait for a network connection. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Occasionally I try to access the internet from a WiFi hotspot but my experience in Ireland is that this is rarely as simple as it sounds. (Last time I tried in a pub here it turned out that they wanted me to pay the equivalent of several pints of beer.) OT, but there used to be a place in Westmoreland St. Dublin that allowed you unlimited Wifi for the cost of a cup of coffee. We spent a whole afternoon there a couple of years ago. Unfortunately, they've gone out of business ... Completely OT, but the story of this cafe (Bewley's) was very sad. The owner (Vincent Bewley) was a quaker saint who gave all the shares in his very successful group of cafes to the staff (with shares distributed equally, I believe) ... This might have succeeded in heaven, but not on earth. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: problems with rhythmbox after updating to udev-124-1.fc9.1
Antti J. Huhtala wrote: pe, 2008-07-04 kello 09:09 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: Antti J. Huhtala wrote: to, 2008-07-03 kello 21:56 +0300, Nicolae Ghimbovschi kirjoitti: Amarok in my case works just fine. Sorry, you're right. Amarok does work. My excuse is that I usually play CDs with rhythmbox and didn't know how to use Amarok properly. However, I have used Totem and KsCD for this purpose before and they won't play CDs now... Additionally, found strange behaviour: Ejecting the CD by clicking the CD symbol on the desktop (right button+eject) will eject the CD, but immediately after it has been ejected, the cd will be loaded again, so I have no chance to take it out. So it does. Same thing if you click on 'Eject' in the pop-up window asking whether to start rhythmbox or sound juicer. This call for budzilla report but against which component? See: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451320 Joachim Backes JB Antti On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Antti J. Huhtala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to, 2008-07-03 kello 18:40 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: Somebody has seen this? Installing the most recent updates (july 3, 18:00 CEST), having problems to play music CDs with rhythmbox: Yes, and it happens in 64-bit systems, too. This does not apply to rhythmbox alone; Amarok, Totem, and KsCD refuse to play CDs as well. after inserting a music CD in the drive, the cd icon appears on the gnome desktop, but nothing is played, and no CD index is shown (see attachment). uname -r 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 $ uname -r 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.x86_64 rpm -q udev rhythmbox udev-124-1.fc9.1.i386 rhythmbox-0.11.5-13.fc9.i386 $ rpm -q udev rhythmbox udev-124-1.fc9.1.x86_64 rhythmbox-0.11.5-13.fc9.x86_64 Hopefully this problem will be fixed soon... Antti Thanks for correcting my error, Nicolae Antti -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- Joachim Backes [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Firefox 3 keeps losing my bookmarks
Chris Stark wrote: While it would seem that soft linking my profile to a local folder would solve the issue, it would also mean that my profile would not follow me between workstations. Is there anything I can do? I don't really understand your problem, but have you tried using foxmarks? Not sure if it would help you, but I find it useful when using several laptops. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: How to install the old kernel?
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Wong Kwok-hon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello How to install back the old kernel? and the command is RPM rejected my installation because it is older than current. Ivan Cat wrote: Have you tried using --force parameter? Don't do that! Using --force is a last resort for when all else fails and you know why and you understand what --force is going to do. RPM doesn't refuse to install packages on a whim, it's trying to stop you from screwing things up. For most packages you can use --oldpackage to tell it that you know the package you're tring to update to is older than the current package. Kernels are different though. You can parallel install serveral kernels, so you'd usuall use rpm -i oldkernel.rpm rather than rpm -U. You can then use the new kernel by going into the grub menu on boot and selecting the older kernel from the list of available kernels. At this stage you can rpm -e the newer kernel pacakage if you really want to get rid of it all together. Simon. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Garbage on empty KDE desktops
I am running Fedora-9 (updated) with KDE on a ThinkPad T43. I have 8 desktops. I find that those among them that are empty all have the same messy screen, with what looks like the garbled remains of an application. Does anyone else find this? Is there any program that will clear a desktop not in use? Or is there some setting I can make that does this? Any advice gratefully received. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
f9 on eee pc 901?
Anyone tried it? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Verizon DSL ??
Jim wrote: Scott Harvanek wrote: If they don't have a USB or RJ45 port... I don't know what else they'd use? osmosis? :) You could call and *ask* them what features their modems have. :) -Scott Jim wrote: I had a bad experience with dealing with setting up a Dialup connection with Verizon, once I mention Linux the help desk, a Indian , he drop me like a hot potato, I failed to do so, never in my 100 years of use of Linux was not able to setup a Dialup connection. This computer I'm trying to get on the Internet is a Gateway it uses those small pci cards, that doesn't have a ethernet card in it, and I will have to use a rj45/USB ethernet adapter, does Verizon DSL modems have output ports for rj45 or USB connections. I have a rj45/USB ethernet adapter that works fine in Fedora. Thanks Scott, I was just wondering if anyone has a DSL service with them, but you are right. Mine has both usb and ethernet ports. Ethernet is preferred. -- Dan Using Linux since 1998. :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: problems with rhythmbox after updating to udev-124-1.fc9.1
pe, 2008-07-04 kello 15:05 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: Antti J. Huhtala wrote: pe, 2008-07-04 kello 09:09 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: Antti J. Huhtala wrote: to, 2008-07-03 kello 21:56 +0300, Nicolae Ghimbovschi kirjoitti: Amarok in my case works just fine. Sorry, you're right. Amarok does work. My excuse is that I usually play CDs with rhythmbox and didn't know how to use Amarok properly. However, I have used Totem and KsCD for this purpose before and they won't play CDs now... Additionally, found strange behaviour: Ejecting the CD by clicking the CD symbol on the desktop (right button+eject) will eject the CD, but immediately after it has been ejected, the cd will be loaded again, so I have no chance to take it out. So it does. Same thing if you click on 'Eject' in the pop-up window asking whether to start rhythmbox or sound juicer. This call for budzilla report but against which component? See: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451320 Joachim Backes Right. The guys seem to argue whether it is a HAL or udev problem. Better not put my spoon in it. The interesting question is why Amarok is able to read a CD when all other CD players I've tried aren't? Antti -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora how to
On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 07:57:27 -0500, allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been researching various linux systems and based on my preferences Fedora is leading the pack. I would very much like to receive any specific Fedora how to sites. Probably start at http://fedoraproject.org/ and follow links that interest you. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: flash
Arnav Kalra wrote: flash player is not working with firefox 3 on fedora 8 check this out; http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/en_US/sn-Desktop.html#sn-XULRunner -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora how to
Hi, Maybe handy, I use this site to setup my fedora machines quick! http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f9.html Greetings, Jim. I have been researching various linux systems and based on my preferences Fedora is leading the pack. I would very much like to receive any specific Fedora how to sites. Allen Meyers-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problems with IPW3545 and latest kernel
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, Fulko Hew wrote: Which Bugzilla # would that be? I tried searching for 3945, and I can't find/recognize the appropriate entry. I think you want bug 453390. One of the posters there has identified the problem, so it shouldn't be too long before it is fixed. Michael Young-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: flash
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 13:20 +0530, Arnav Kalra wrote: flash player is not working with firefox 3 on fedora 8 Do you have the flash-plugin from adobe installed? Do you also have the libflashsupport rpm from Fedora also installed? rpm -qa |grep flash might help determine either. -- Mike Chambers Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Does one have to be a sound engineer?
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed Fedora-9 (from the KDE Live CD) on a big new disk on my laptop (ThinkPad T43) yesterday, and found that sound was not working. I noticed on left-clicking on the sound icon in the panel that the sound mixer was muted, and the sound was set at minimal level as well. Why? Surely the rational setup would be to have sound working at a reasonably high level when one logs on? I think the reasoning is not breaking the hardware or your ear drums. Blowing speakers is relatively easy to do. Anyway, after unmuting the sound and increasing the level I found there was still no sound. I had to switch my default to ALSA and all was well. Preferences--Hardware--Sound ( or something like that) Left-clicking on the sound icon, and then left clicking on the word Mixer in the small window that appeared brought up a KMix window. I noticed that the Front slider was set at the minimal level in this, and pushing it up started sound working. What exactly does Front mean? Windows XP seems to get by without all this sophistication. As far as I can see, all I can do under Windows is make the sound stronger or weaker. I must say that is all I want. Am I alone in feeling there is too much expertise, and not enough common sense, in the Linux sound community? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- If opinions were really like assholes we'd each have just one -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
IRC clients?
What (GUI) IRC clients are available pre-compiled for Fedora 9? In the past I've used Xirc but I don't seem to be able to find a version precompiled for F9 (x86_64) Thanks, Jeff -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: IRC clients?
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 10:55 -0400, Jeffrey Ross wrote: What (GUI) IRC clients are available pre-compiled for Fedora 9? In the past I've used Xirc but I don't seem to be able to find a version precompiled for F9 (x86_64) There is xchat. -- Mike Chambers Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: IRC clients?
On Friday 04 July 2008 15:55:29 Jeffrey Ross wrote: What (GUI) IRC clients are available pre-compiled for Fedora 9? In the past I've used Xirc but I don't seem to be able to find a version precompiled for F9 (x86_64) Not at my Fedora box at the moment, but I think you'll find konversation is there, if you use kde. Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: IRC clients?
have you tried irssi ? It rocks ! Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 04 July 2008 15:55:29 Jeffrey Ross wrote: What (GUI) IRC clients are available pre-compiled for Fedora 9? In the past I've used Xirc but I don't seem to be able to find a version precompiled for F9 (x86_64) Not at my Fedora box at the moment, but I think you'll find konversation is there, if you use kde. Anne -- Aly S.P Dharshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got TELUS TV ? http://www.telus.com/tv or 310-MYTV -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora how to
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 16:03 +0200, Jim van Wel wrote: Hi, Maybe handy, I use this site to setup my fedora machines quick! http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f9.html Great resource. I now have it bookmarked in my Fedora 9 file. I wish I had found it sooner. -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2 Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: IRC clients?
Hi; On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 10:09 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 10:55 -0400, Jeffrey Ross wrote: What (GUI) IRC clients are available pre-compiled for Fedora 9? In the past I've used Xirc but I don't seem to be able to find a version precompiled for F9 (x86_64) There is xchat. If you want to keep it simple, I use xchat-gnome. xchat-gnome is just a simplified front end for xchat so you have to download and install both. -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.2 Evo.2.22.2, Emacs 22.2.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: f9 on eee pc 901?
Am Freitag, den 04.07.2008, 10:28 -0400 schrieb fred smith: On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 09:29:17AM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: Anyone tried it? Didn't think the 901 was available yet. Do you have one? Yeee! Mine (eee900) is arriving in 15 days. I've saved this link, Fedora 8 on eee to proceed as soon as she gets on my desk: http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2j8bn/eeePC-F8.html please, tell us how did you did. If you write a howto, i can help u with when installing mine. May the force be with your eee. -- Rodolfo Alcazar - [EMAIL PROTECTED] otbits.blogspot.com / counter.li.org: #367962 -- Ein Mann kann mit jeder Frau glücklich sein, solange er sie nicht liebt. - Oscar Wilde -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Possible to extend the /boot partition?
Wong Kwok-hon wrote: Hello, My /boot file system is about 100MB and would it possible to extend online? Which software should I use ? Thanks... Best Regards, Wong Kwok Hon Dumb question - why do you want to increase the size of your /boot partition? You can use gparted to adjust the sizes of your partitions. I would recommend using the stand alone CD version, as you do not want to try and resize/move mounted partitions. Also, /boot is usually one of the hardest partitions to resize, as it usually involves moving other partitions to make room. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
formatting an e-book
I just bought a 1TB My Book external HD with the idea of using it to back up both my Fedora box and my wife's Vista laptop. I was going to partition half of it as NTFS and the other half ext3. The documentation says that it comes preformatted with a single FAT32 partition but this looks strange to me # mount ... /dev/sdc1 on /media/My Book type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=500) # fdisk -l /dev/sdc1 Disk /dev/sdc1: 1000.2 GB, 1000202241024 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121600 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0xx This doesn't look like a partition table Probably you selected the wrong device. Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdc1p1 ? 119512 153402 272218546+ 20 Unknown Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sdc1p2 ? 82801 116350 269488144 6b Unknown Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sdc1p3 ? 33551 120595 699181456 53 OnTrack DM6 Aux3 Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sdc1p4 * 86812 86813 10668+ 49 Unknown Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary. Partition table entries are not in disk order Anybody else had any experience with one if these? Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: formatting an e-book
On Friday 04 July 2008, Steve wrote: I just bought a 1TB My Book external HD with the idea of using it to back up both my Fedora box and my wife's Vista laptop. I was going to partition half of it as NTFS and the other half ext3. The documentation says that it comes preformatted with a single FAT32 partition but this looks strange to me # mount ... /dev/sdc1 on /media/My Book type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=500) # fdisk -l /dev/sdc1 Wrong, you wanted the base device, probably /dev/sdc, not some partition on it. Disk /dev/sdc1: 1000.2 GB, 1000202241024 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121600 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0xx This doesn't look like a partition table Probably you selected the wrong device. Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdc1p1 ? 119512 153402 272218546+ 20 Unknown Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sdc1p2 ? 82801 116350 269488144 6b Unknown Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sdc1p3 ? 33551 120595 699181456 53 OnTrack DM6 Aux3 Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sdc1p4 * 86812 86813 10668+ 49 Unknown Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary. Partition table entries are not in disk order Anybody else had any experience with one if these? Steve -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Xerox never comes up with anything original. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: IRC clients?
Em Sexta 04 Julho 2008, Jeffrey Ross escreveu: What (GUI) IRC clients are available pre-compiled for Fedora 9? In the past I've used Xirc but I don't seem to be able to find a version precompiled for F9 (x86_64) Thanks, Jeff Konversation is available in Fedora, I like it. []'s Marcelo -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 14:58 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Matthew Saltzman wrote: But it seems to me that it should be easy enough to cater for all users, by having a setting in some /etc/NM.conf which will allow NM to start with a specific connection before anyone logs in _if that is what one wants_, or if not requires the user to authenticate before connection. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/F9Common#networkmanager-static I read this, and followed the instructions there as well as I could, creating the following /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 -- DEVICE=eth1 ONBOOT=yes BOOTPROTO=dhcp NM_CONTROLLED=Yes HWADDR=00:02:2D:21:03:C9 IPADDR=192.168.2.19 NETWORK=192.168.2.0 GATEWAY=192.168.2.2 TYPE=Wireless DHCP_HOSTNAME=mary.gayleard.com IPV6INIT=no ESSID=dd-wrt KEY=secret -- But the effect of installing this was to stop NM working. (It had been working perfectly.) Actually, WiFi appeared to be working from the flashing lights on my WiFi card, but I got the message Network unavailable. In any case, as far as I could see NM (or nm-applet) did not start up until I logged in, as usual, so even if this had worked I don't think it would improved matters. First, I haven't actually tired this yet, as I haven't had time to install F9 on any of my machines. But I will have a chance sometime soon, maybe this weekend. nm-applet doesn't start until you log in, but NetworkManager starts at boot if it is set to do so. My understanding is that NM (the service) should start an interface at boot if ifcfg-device is set up correctly. It's likely that mobile users wouldn't want an interface to come up if it wasn't under their control (through nm-applet). As I said before, the fact that NM starts late does not actually worry me too much, I just find it puzzling. To date I have 4 files in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/ to run various programs (eg NFS mount) which have to wait for a network connection. I think I've seen that the NM service will be set to start earlier in the boot sequence in a soon-to-be-released update. The longer-term solution would be to have services that require a network understand how to wait for one to come up (through dBus, for example). -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: formatting an e-book
Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 04 July 2008, Steve wrote: I just bought a 1TB My Book external HD with the idea of using it to back up both my Fedora box and my wife's Vista laptop. I was going to partition half of it as NTFS and the other half ext3. The documentation says that it comes preformatted with a single FAT32 partition but this looks strange to me # mount ... /dev/sdc1 on /media/My Book type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=500) # fdisk -l /dev/sdc1 Wrong, you wanted the base device, probably /dev/sdc, not some partition on it. Doh!! That's the 2nd time I've made that mistake recently. ]# fdisk -l /dev/sdc Disk /dev/sdc: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdc1 1 121601 976760001c W95 FAT32 (LBA) That's better! Now I think I need to upgrade my BIOS so that I can boot with this thing plugged in. Thanks, Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Does one have to be a sound engineer?
max bianco wrote: Surely the rational setup would be to have sound working at a reasonably high level when one logs on? I think the reasoning is not breaking the hardware or your ear drums. Blowing speakers is relatively easy to do. Windows doesn't seem to worry about that. As it happens, I am using the laptop speaker - I doubt if this has ever deafened anyone. I had to switch my default to ALSA and all was well. Preferences--Hardware--Sound ( or something like that) I'm using KDE, and don't see any setting like this in the main menu. The only sound application there is KMix, which does not seem to offer anything along those lines. The only other application that I can see to control sound is System Settings=Sound and I don't see anything similar there either. (Incidentally, I would have thought the default was always ALSA - what else could it be?) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora how to
David Boles wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: Jim van Wel wrote: Maybe handy, I use this site to setup my fedora machines quick! http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f9.html I agree, this is the best Fedora HOWTO I know. The official HOWTOs on fedoraforum are seriously deficient in dealing with multimedia, because of their obsession with open source, or rather their refusal to steer the user to any of the sites carrying essential non-free codecs, etc. The clear reason(s) for which have been explained many, many, times Timothy. Repetition does not make it any less annoying. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Does one have to be a sound engineer?
--- On Fri, 7/4/08, Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Does one have to be a sound engineer? To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 10:54 AM max bianco wrote: Surely the rational setup would be to have sound working at a reasonably high level when one logs on? I think the reasoning is not breaking the hardware or your ear drums. Blowing speakers is relatively easy to do. Windows doesn't seem to worry about that. As it happens, I am using the laptop speaker - I doubt if this has ever deafened anyone. I had to switch my default to ALSA and all was well. Preferences--Hardware--Sound ( or something like that) I'm using KDE, and don't see any setting like this in the main menu. The only sound application there is KMix, which does not seem to offer anything along those lines. The only other application that I can see to control sound is System Settings=Sound and I don't see anything similar there either. (Incidentally, I would have thought the default was always ALSA - what else could it be?) It was arts for KDE and esound for Gnome prior to PulseAudio. Now it is PulseAudio. -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO
Matthew Saltzman wrote: But it seems to me that it should be easy enough to cater for all users, by having a setting in some /etc/NM.conf which will allow NM to start with a specific connection before anyone logs in _if that is what one wants_, or if not requires the user to authenticate before connection. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/F9Common#networkmanager-static I read this, and followed the instructions there as well as I could, First, I haven't actually tired this yet, as I haven't had time to install F9 on any of my machines. But I will have a chance sometime soon, maybe this weekend. I've tried it with various versions of ifcfg-eth1 . (It was suggested to me that giving an IPADDR when using dhcp might confuse NM.) In any case, my experience has been that as soon as I move ifcfg-eth1 to /etc/sysconfig/network-script/ , NM stops working, with the message You have been disconnected ... (So at least NM must be looking at this file. I'm pretty sure it didn't do that earlier in its life.) nm-applet doesn't start until you log in, but NetworkManager starts at boot if it is set to do so. My understanding is that NM (the service) should start an interface at boot if ifcfg-device is set up correctly. It's likely that mobile users wouldn't want an interface to come up if it wasn't under their control (through nm-applet). Depends what you mean by a mobile user. Personally, I would like NM to try to connect to the last ESSID it succeeded in connecting to, and if it can't connect then ask me which of the ESSIDs it sees I want to connect to. Just like Windows XP, in fact, which seems to me to have this about right. I think I've seen that the NM service will be set to start earlier in the boot sequence in a soon-to-be-released update. The longer-term solution would be to have services that require a network understand how to wait for one to come up (through dBus, for example). Actually, it is not too difficult to start them in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/ . I just don't think it is a very rational arrangement. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 12:33 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: Since this subject is bout Boinc and solved, shouldn't another thread be started, at least about what your currently talking about so can be followed from archives a little easier? Otherwise, who would know to search for boinc when discussing NM stuff? LOL Sorry, not ranting on your discussion, I don't care, just bringing up a suggestion for future fedoraers haha (is that a word?) -- Mike Chambers Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: grub not working after kernel update
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, lee wrote: I just upgraded my laptop using yum. Upgrade included a new kernel, after upgrade finished I rebooted. Now all I get is GRUB on my screen. I booted with rescue disk and can see nothing wrong with grub. New kernel is 2.6.26.9-76.fc9.i686. This happened to me recently. I booted from a live cd and reinstalled grub. After that the system booted up. If you don't know how do it let us knows to get step by step instructions. EJ Thanks for all the help. Used rescue disk and reinstalled grub. Works fine now. Heh, I wish I'd seen this earlier. The same thing happened to me and now the box is feeling less than cooperative. Could someone please post the step by step instructions for an oldtimer? I'd google but I'm having to use a public box to access the 'Net at the moment. If it's not to much trouble could you CC to [EMAIL PROTECTED] please? It's bood to have a fallback. Joe -- Interesting Boring Blog - http://x-nc.blogspot.com A combination of insight and inanity for your reading pleasure -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Firefox 3 keeps losing my bookmarks
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 15:07 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Chris Stark wrote: While it would seem that soft linking my profile to a local folder would solve the issue, it would also mean that my profile would not follow me between workstations. Is there anything I can do? I don't really understand your problem, but have you tried using foxmarks? Not sure if it would help you, but I find it useful when using several laptops. Foxmarks works pretty well for bookmarks, though they don't encrypt your data on their servers, so beware. Weave is a new add-on (0.2 was just released) which is supported by Mozilla itself and can handle bookmarks, cookies and several other things. It does encrypt your data (in the client, so the server never sees the plaintext). Unfortunately there are problems with the 64-bit versions at the moment. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 15:03 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Occasionally I try to access the internet from a WiFi hotspot but my experience in Ireland is that this is rarely as simple as it sounds. (Last time I tried in a pub here it turned out that they wanted me to pay the equivalent of several pints of beer.) OT, but there used to be a place in Westmoreland St. Dublin that allowed you unlimited Wifi for the cost of a cup of coffee. We spent a whole afternoon there a couple of years ago. Unfortunately, they've gone out of business ... Completely OT, but the story of this cafe (Bewley's) was very sad. The owner (Vincent Bewley) was a quaker saint who gave all the shares in his very successful group of cafes to the staff (with shares distributed equally, I believe) ... This might have succeeded in heaven, but not on earth. Bewley's actually was extremely successful for over 150 years until it closed in 2004. The Grafton St. branch has since reopened under new management but of course it's not the same. I think they still have the amazing stained-glass windows though. Anyway, the place I'm talking about wasn't Bewley's, or indeed even remotely in the same class. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora how to
Around 06:56pm on Friday, July 04, 2008 (UK time), Timothy Murphy scrawled: Repetition does not make it any less annoying. So don't keep repeating it then. Steve -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting a bad thing? 19:26:15 up 7 days, 9:17, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 pgptQvzBFcRV9.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: grub not working after kernel update
-- Original message -- From: Joe Klemmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, lee wrote: I just upgraded my laptop using yum. Upgrade included a new kernel, after upgrade finished I rebooted. Now all I get is GRUB on my screen. I booted with rescue disk and can see nothing wrong with grub. New kernel is 2.6.26.9-76.fc9.i686. This happened to me recently. I booted from a live cd and reinstalled grub. After that the system booted up. If you don't know how do it let us knows to get step by step instructions. EJ Thanks for all the help. Used rescue disk and reinstalled grub. Works fine now. Heh, I wish I'd seen this earlier. The same thing happened to me and now the box is feeling less than cooperative. Could someone please post the step by step instructions for an oldtimer? I'd google but I'm having to use a public box to access the 'Net at the moment. If it's not to much trouble could you CC to [EMAIL PROTECTED] please? It's bood to have a fallback. Joe Get the live CD or the Fedora 9 Installer DVD. Make sure your computer BIOS is configured to start from the cd/dvd, this is in case it doesn't boot up from the cd/dvd. From the CD open the terminal. From the Installer DVD select Rescue Mode. From the CD terminal become root by doing: su - There's no password. From the DVD no need, you fall into a terminal. 1-Let's find your boot partition fdisk -l You'll get something like this among other things. Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 25 200781 83 Linux /dev/sda2 26486638885332+ 8e Linux LVM See the asterisk? That's your boot partition, sda1. So now you know. 2- Let's restart the grub boot loader type grub and press enter. You'll get this. # grub Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time. GNU GRUB version 0.97 (640K lower / 3072K upper memory) [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible completions of a device/filename.] grub 3- At the grub prompt let's select the partition with the command root (hd0,0). Zero means the first one. This is the output. grub root (hd0,0) root (hd0,0) Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 If your boot partition is sda2 then the command would be: root (hd0,0). For sdb1: root (hd1,0). For sdb2: root (hd1,1). Got it? 4- Once the partition is selected, reinstall grub with this command. setup (hd0) Note. If your partition was sdb1 then setup (hd1) 5- Now enter quit at the grub prompt and reboot. If you have any problems, post here the errors as well as the output of fdisk -l Hope that helps. EJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora how to
Hi Allen, You might find http://www.my-guides.net/en/content/view/103/26/ an interesting read. Enjoy, Olivier 2008/7/4 allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have been researching various linux systems and based on my preferences Fedora is leading the pack. I would very much like to receive any specific Fedora how to sites. Allen Meyers -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
F9 Nautilus Browser File signing Black Chooser? Seahorse Installed
Anyone have a blank chooser if trying to sign files through nautilus? even though one has gpg keys. Frank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
solved vmware kills syslog fish, fedora users archive fishing
I solved this issue myself, but thought I'd send this message anyhow. Indulge me. toss me a fish: There was a thread recently that discussed a problem whose symptom was that syslog died and the logs were deleted. Turns out that installing vmware had something to do with it. I thought I carefully saved this thread, can't find it now. I wanted to know how did OP restore syslog to good health? /sbin/restorecon /etc/services was the fish. teach me to fish: How could I search the archive at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ to find this, since I know not the thread, author, or date? I tried googling: site:https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ vmware syslog And got a lot of hits from January and February. I constrained the search to the past two months, got nothing, which I know is wrong. Tried: site:https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ vmware syslogd and hit paydirt. Yay me! Woe to the person who doesn't half-know the solution already - without the 'vmware' term in there, much harder to find the solution. And mahalo to the list for making me so utterly knowledgeable! Dave -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
'gpaint' or 'kolourpaint'
Hello Friends How can I get 'gpaint' or 'kolourpaint' in Fedora 8? I tried to compile the 'gpaint-2.0.3.3.tar.gz' but it is giving so many problems. Is there any simple way to get these two? For some very simple work I need them. Gimp or Inkscape are too heavy for these simple works. Even 'xpaint' is not compiling on F-8. -- -- das ddts.randomink.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: 'gpaint' or 'kolourpaint'
Em Sexta 04 Julho 2008, das escreveu: Hello Friends How can I get 'gpaint' or 'kolourpaint' in Fedora 8? I tried to compile the 'gpaint-2.0.3.3.tar.gz' but it is giving so many problems. Is there any simple way to get these two? For some very simple work I need them. Gimp or Inkscape are too heavy for these simple works. Even 'xpaint' is not compiling on F-8. kolourpaint is in the package kdegraphics. []'s Marcelo -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: 'gpaint' or 'kolourpaint'
das kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika perjantai, 4. heinäkuuta 2008): How can I get 'gpaint' or 'kolourpaint' in Fedora 8? Kolourpaint is part of the kdegraphics package. yum install kdegraphics or use one of the GUI front-ends. -- Markku Kolkka [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Looking for an picture management program - ideas please.
I'm looking for a picture (image) management program to handle a large collection of photos dating from the 1960s to the present day. My *main* requirement is a program which allows me to store the photos in a standard directory hierarchy and which uses that hierarchy as the basic organisation. My main structure is a series of directories which are named by year, i.e. I have directories called 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, etc. Then within the year directories I have sub-directories containing the actual images, I want to call these things like:- Jan - Snow at Newbourne April - visit to Poland April - pictures of pets at home May - riding Now the big issue is that I want to be able to sort these directories containing the images in chronological order. This basically requires either that the program allows me to add some sort of property to an image directory indicating its date or it allows me to sort the directories manually. Even if I use numbers for the months (01 - Jan, 02 - Feb, etc.) it's not a perfect solution because different directories for the same month will still not be sorted correctly (e.g. April above). Does anyone know of an image viewing/editing/managing program that provides this sort of organisation? At the moment I'm using digikam which is close to what I want but doesn't provide the chronological sorting I want within its folder structure. -- Chris Green -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Playing Video on Cspan.org
When trying to play videos on Cspan.org , it can't play because of a protocol called rtsp , what video player, plays this protocol ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Nevermind!! - Re: RedHat F8 OpenOffice - Has Stopped Recognizing EPS Graphics
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 16:04 -0500, Marc Schwartz wrote: Rick Bilonick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 11:10 -0400, Rick Bilonick wrote: I'm running F8 (since January) and using openoffice 2.3 (RedHat's rpms). Now all of a sudden I cannot insert eps graphics nor convert them using draw to emf. It says it doesn't recognize the file format. It had also started saying my personal files were locked but re-booting has seemed to stop this. How can I fix this? Rick B. It wasn't a problem with openoffice. It was a problem with the supposed eps file (created from R using cairo_ps function instead of postscript function). Rick B. Rick, You might note from ?cairo in R, in the Details section: The cairo_ps output is not yet encapsulated (that is coming in cairo 1.6). Also, if you are using a current version of R, you might want to note the relatively new setEPS() function. See ?setEPS for more information. HTH, Marc Schwartz Thanks for the information. I should have checked out the function more but I was in a hurry. The problem I was having with the R postscript funciton under F8 was that it was creating gray images instead of color images. I couldn't figure out how to get the color. The cairo_ps function produced color images. I used eps2eps hoping it would fix what was wrong and it did. So I got the color and a usable eps file. I'll look into setEPS. Rick B. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: ifdown. is it really down? [solved]
Tim wrote: Just wondering: Are you using NetworkManager? i was, not now. i had too many problems with it and stopped using it. i noticed this problem after. problem is i was blinking when i was looking. as it turned out, flash is a 'heart beat' and is continuous. 'heart beat' did not cross my mind before as i had not noticed interval. seems that i had not watched long enough to notice that flashing was occurring at a 20 second interval. i was having problems with tbird and f8 and a couple other things, so i decided to do a new install. i pulled both ethernet and dsl cables and while walking back to desk to check install, i noticed a double flash. i sat down and started watching led and tried to not blink or blink after flash. it was then that i realized what was happening. having forgotten password for modem, i called tech support to get it reset. afterwards i asked about blinking and they confirmed. seems that this modem will flash twice with no ethernet cable plugged in and single flash with cable plugged in. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: RedHat F8 Openoffice 2.3 Says My Personal Settings Are Locked
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 11:44 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 10:35 -0400, Rick Bilonick wrote: I'm using the RedHat version of Openoffice 2.3 in F8. I've been using it since January without any major problems. Now every time I start it, it warns me that my personal settings are locked. I've looked through them but don't see any lock file to unlock. Does it say the settings are locked by another process? If not, it seems more likely to be a file permissions problem than a locking problem. A quick look at ~/.openoffice.org2.0 shows no files which aren't writeable by me, so you could try chmod -R u+w ~/.openoffice.org2.0 poc The weird thing is the problem disappeared. I did look in ~/.openoffice.org2.0 but could not find a lock file. I'm using this on a laptop. Exiting ooo didn't fix it but it went away after a reboot. Rick B. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Problem with system-config-printer.py
Is there some dependency issue here? Has anybody else seen this? Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/system-config-printer/system-config-printer.py, line 29, in module import gtk.glade File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py, line 48, in module from gtk import _gtk ImportError: /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2: symbol png_set_expand_gray_1_2_4_to_8, version PNG12_0 not defined in file libpng12.so.0 with link time reference Thanks for any help you might have. Chris -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Does one have to be a sound engineer?
max bianco: I think the reasoning is not breaking the hardware or your ear drums. Blowing speakers is relatively easy to do. Timothy Murphy: Windows doesn't seem to worry about that. As it happens, I am using the laptop speaker - I doubt if this has ever deafened anyone. Try using powered speakers with no volume control on them (some JBL speakers that came with a Compaq monitor, long ago), they depend on your mixer to completely control levels. They go damn loud when driven with full audio levels. A proper use of a volume control would be that a high level (on your control position) is relative to very loud audio. That's not a good default. -- (This computer runs FC7, my others run FC4, FC5 FC6, all using Gnome in case that's important to the thread.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Playing Video on Cspan.org
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 17:15 -0400, Jim wrote: When trying to play videos on Cspan.org , it can't play because of a protocol called rtsp , what video player, plays this protocol ? I've managed, with a bit of pain, to use mplayer to view that sort of thing. I think VLC can, too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Time_Streaming_Protocol#Clients -- (This computer runs FC7, my others run FC4, FC5 FC6, all using Gnome in case that's important to the thread.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problem with system-config-printer.py
Sorry, I should have indicated that I'm running F9. I'm not sure what else one would need to know. I click on the System-Administration-Printing pulldown, and this is what gets printed in my .xsession-errors file. Chris Chris Carlson wrote: Is there some dependency issue here? Has anybody else seen this? Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/system-config-printer/system-config-printer.py, line 29, in module import gtk.glade File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py, line 48, in module from gtk import _gtk ImportError: /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2: symbol png_set_expand_gray_1_2_4_to_8, version PNG12_0 not defined in file libpng12.so.0 with link time reference Thanks for any help you might have. Chris -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Fedora 9 X dual monitor problem
I recently upgraded my laptop from Fedora 8 to Fedora 9. As always, I backed up the old system and started from reformatted drives. I never upgrade my OS in place. This is on my Dell Latitude D820 with a 15.4 inch 1680x1050 screen, using the proprietary Nvidia driver. I've had quite a few problems with F9. I don't know how much of my pain is coming from KDE4 being fresh out of the oven, and how much of it is F9 itself. When I was running F8, I was able to sucessfully hook up the external video port to my Sony Bravia TV's PC port. It does 1380x768. This is essential functionality for me, so I can watch MythTV on the TV while using my internal screen for email/web/etc. I used separate Xs, not TwinView or Xinerama (I experimented with those, but windows would launch on the TV when it wasn't hooked up, so I couldn't get to them). And all was right in the world After I loaded F9, I'm not able to get the TV to display anything. I see a crosshatch pattern over the screen, and if I move the mouse to that screen, I see the cursor, but I can't right click or left click. I even tried the exact xorg.conf from F8, and that didn't work either. Instead of the crosshatch pattern, the TV was just black. I have a complete writeup, with links to the config and log files at: http://www.thekramers.net/tmp/xproblem/ Someone suggested that X wasn't starting on that screen (:1), and to try to start it separately, but that didn't work. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ export DISPLAY=:1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo $DISPLAY :1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ kwin kwin: FATAL ERROR while trying to open display :1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ metacity Window manager error: Unable to open X display :1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ * Config file two screens, worked in F8, but not F9 * Log file (from F9), two screens, worked in F8 but not in F9 * Log file, single screen, works * Config file, single screen, works * Log file, two screens, broken * Config file, two screens, broken Some other related problems I'm having: * nvidia-settings puts an entry in xorg.conf for RgbPath, and X fails to start, claiming it's invalid. I have to remove that line every time I rerun nvidia-settings. * It says it can't load the module type1, but I can't see any packages (using yum or yumex) having to do with type1 fonts that isn't installed. * It looks like glx is loading when you look at some parts of the log files, and that it isn't in others. How can I tell for sure, and how can I fix it if it isn't loading? * The fonts applications and KDE use seem very inconsistent. I have Firefox and Thunderbird to use font sized 10 and 12 for most things, but sometimes they will show text using a font that looks like it's at least 20, and sometimes emails appear in a font too small to easily read, and in light grey. I have it set to view in plain text and quoted lines in black in the same font. I know that sounds like a Thunderbird problem, but since I'm having font troubles in general, I'm not sure. Also not sure if it's related to the type1 module problem above. Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Firefox 3 keeps losing my bookmarks
On 03Jul2008 19:21, Chris Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While it would seem that soft linking my profile to a local folder would solve the issue, it would also mean that my profile would not follow me between workstations. Is there anything I can do? You could run your firefox from a shell wrapper. Treat the local folder as a cache. Rsync from the master to the local folder, run firefox, rsync back at exit. You could even do backups. A little cumbersome, but probably more reliable. It should also get you faster performance, since disc access will be local. -- Cameron Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 NFS install fails [SOLVED]
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 03:58 +, Amadeus W.M. wrote: On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:17:06 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: I'm trying to install F9 on a machine that doesn't have a DVD drive. I burned the boot.iso and boot from that. I mount the install DVD on another machine and NFS export it. I can mount the exported directory on another machine (and even that machine booted with its current F7). I boot for the boot ISO and select NFS install. I assign the IPv4 address, netmask, gateway, and nameserver as they are defined for other machines on the LAN and specify the IP address and directory of the NFS serving machine. IPv6 is disabled. But the installer is always unable to mount the NFS volume. Is there something I'm missing? TIA. When installing from alternative media such as the hard disk or nfs, you tell the installer the drive (e.g. /dev/sda2) and the directory where the actual ISO image resides (e.g. Fedora-9-i386-DVD.iso). That was it, thanks! To make the install faster, do a hard disk install. That is, put the iso image on the machine you want to install, on a partition that you do not format during the install (e.g. in /home/user). If you're installing on a machine that's not already running linux, then you must do a network install. It didn't seem as though the installer recognizes LVM volumes. But the net install is working fine. On the machine with dvd drive: dd if=/dev/dvd of=Fedora-9-i386-DVD.iso then transfer it to the target machine. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora how to
Steve Searle wrote: Around 06:56pm on Friday, July 04, 2008 (UK time), Timothy Murphy scrawled: Repetition does not make it any less annoying. So don't keep repeating it then. I didn't repeat anything. I said, once: - http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f9.html I agree, this is the best Fedora HOWTO I know. The official HOWTOs on fedoraforum are seriously deficient in dealing with multimedia, because of their obsession with open source, or rather their refusal to steer the user to any of the sites carrying essential non-free codecs, etc. - Now I have said it twice. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list