Re: [echo] video-display sketches

2008-07-04 Thread Nicu Buculei

Ian Weller wrote:

Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:

Derived from computer icon. 16x16 is intentionally omitted because it
will be a system-lock-screen
variation. These icons will be the base of other variants such as
resolution. Feedback welcome.


I enjoy that you (basically) used the Fedora 9 Waves wallpaper. ;)


Yup, +1 for the effort.
But if we aim Echo as a default for F10, F10 will have a different 
wallpaper, so maybe is better to stay with something more 
release-neutral? (it would be uber-cool to have the real wallpaper for 
each release in the icons, but I doubt we will follow this)


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Re: [echo] video-display sketches

2008-07-04 Thread Ian Weller
Nicu Buculei wrote:
 But if we aim Echo as a default for F10, F10 will have a different
 wallpaper, so maybe is better to stay with something more
 release-neutral? (it would be uber-cool to have the real wallpaper for
 each release in the icons, but I doubt we will follow this)
 
You could possibly talk to mizmo and see if we can add something like
that to the release cycle.

Then again, it might be a good idea to even keep it distro-neutral, just
in case another distro wants to use our icons.

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Re: [echo] video-display sketches

2008-07-04 Thread Nicu Buculei

Ian Weller wrote:

Nicu Buculei wrote:

But if we aim Echo as a default for F10, F10 will have a different
wallpaper, so maybe is better to stay with something more
release-neutral? (it would be uber-cool to have the real wallpaper for
each release in the icons, but I doubt we will follow this)


You could possibly talk to mizmo and see if we can add something like
that to the release cycle.


That's not a problem, it is just a formality. The really hard part is to 
find an Echo developer willing to keep with this task (and updating not 
only this icon but also things like the computer icon which is put on 
the default desktop) when we have already tons of icons needed.



Then again, it might be a good idea to even keep it distro-neutral, just
in case another distro wants to use our icons.



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Re: [echo] video-display sketches

2008-07-04 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Quoting Ian Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Then again, it might be a good idea to even keep it distro-neutral, just
 in case another distro wants to use our icons.



Gentoo and Mandriva already got Echo on their repositories. Apparently, Xubuntu
artwork team are keeping eyes as well.
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2008-June/006275.html

I originally considered to make different version of video-display depending of
distributions, I realized the task will be too much although the source SVG are
available.

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Re: [echo] video-display sketches

2008-07-04 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 20:10 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
 Derived from computer icon. 16x16 is intentionally omitted because it
 will be a system-lock-screen
 variation. These icons will be the base of other variants such as
 resolution. Feedback welcome.
 
 
 Luya
 
The 22x22 version could be perhaps more simplified. Overall it looks
good :)

As for the wallpapers, IIRC we'd need to refresh the wallpaper twice a
year for these icons:
 * computer
 * video-display
 * system-lock-screen

and optionally for
 * preferences-desktop-wallpaper
 * network-workgroup.

Other distros can either keep it, or patch it to include theirs.

Martin


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Re: [Echo] start-here icon DRAFT

2008-07-04 Thread Pavel Shevchuk
Magically converts fedora into epic pacman tribute... =)


On 7/3/08, Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 18:21 -0400, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
   Quoting Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 19:34 +0200, Mark wrote:
 2008/6/29 Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I like the icon! but not for the place you made it.. i would never
 want to see that icon as my start icon..
 So it's good but try to find another purpose for it. Something with
 sound would work well i think.

You have a point there, I can imagine it being used for IM applications
like empathy, gajim or pidgin, now that you mention it... My point
behind the decision for start-here was because the icon I used is main
part of the new echo-icon-theme logo and start-here is IMHO a good place
to show the logo (and it will most likely be replaced by fedora logo
when echo is made default fedora theme).
   
   Maybe remove one wave will work.
  

 I decided to remove the waves altogether. Makes the icon less cluttered
  and would probably work better in the place it is designed for.


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Software Freedom Day t-shirts

2008-07-04 Thread Jayme Ayres
Hi folks!

While enjoying the discussions posted at the Brazilian Ambassadors
list, I created a layout for the Software Freedom Day T-shirt  (
http://softwarefreedomday.org ), Some of those Ambassadors offered to
make such T-shirt for the event. I´ll post that at wiki when they are
finished.

http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/tShirt-SFDay08.png
http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/tShirt-SFDay08.svg

By the way, I´ve added an Artwork/T-Shirt design I made for the Fedora
Ambassadors in Brazil - inspired by the art of the video
http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/02/video-meet-the-fedora-ambassadors/
) produced after FISL 7.0
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt#Events

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Re: Software Freedom Day t-shirts

2008-07-04 Thread Ian Weller

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, Jayme Ayres wrote:


http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/tShirt-SFDay08.png
http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/tShirt-SFDay08.svg



I can't seem to connect to your server. -- ian

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Re: [Echo] start-here icon DRAFT

2008-07-04 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 21:30 +0300, Pavel Shevchuk wrote:
 Magically converts fedora into epic pacman tribute... =)
 
Me wonders how long has it been since I last played pacman :-D Now we
can only hope the icon won't start moving and eat the menu :-p

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Re: [Echo] start-here icon DRAFT

2008-07-04 Thread Klaatu and Gort
Does anyone know what the policy on re-using (or remixing perhaps is a
better term) the official Fedora wallpaper is?

Here is the context:
I am doing some wallpaper for a podcast (hackerpublicradio.org) that will be
distributing a promotional CD of previous episodes, along with some bonus
material like wallpaper art, at the upcoming HOPE conference.  I'd been
using a blue gradient in the background of my design and then as I sat
staring at my own desktop of choice (Fedora 9, naturally) I realized that
the WAVES image could be a nice subtle hint at which Linux distro
iswell, the coolest.

The design in question would look like this were i to incorporate Waves:
http://www.thebadapples.info/fedorareloaded/lateNightHacking_waves.png

I could probably have the guy making the CDs include a README file to give
credit where credit is due, too.


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art re-use policy

2008-07-04 Thread Klaatu and Gort
I just accidentally appended a completely unrelated question to an ongoing
thread.  Sorry everyone  : /

Here again, my question, as it's own thread:

Does anyone know what the policy on re-using (or remixing perhaps is a
better term) the official Fedora wallpaper is?

Here is the context:
I am doing some wallpaper for a podcast (hackerpublicradio.org) that will be
distributing a promotional CD of previous episodes, along with some bonus
material like wallpaper art, at the upcoming HOPE conference.  I'd been
using a blue gradient in the background of my design and then as I sat
staring at my own desktop of choice (Fedora 9, naturally) I realized that
the WAVES image could be a nice subtle hint at which Linux distro
iswell, the coolest.

The design in question would look like this were i to incorporate Waves:
http://www.thebadapples.info/fedorareloaded/lateNightHacking_waves.png

I could probably have the guy making the CDs include a README file to give
credit where credit is due, too.

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Re: [Echo] start-here icon DRAFT

2008-07-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Klaatu and Gort wrote:
Does anyone know what the policy on re-using (or remixing perhaps is a 
better term) the official Fedora wallpaper is?


IIRC, all of the artwork is GPL or dual licensed under GPL/ Creative 
Commons attribution share alike license. At any rate, remixing is 
explicitly allowed for any Fedora artwork as long as you give credit. So 
reusing the artwork while putting a note somewhere on the original 
source should do.


Rahul

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Avoid thread hijacking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_hijacking

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Re: Software Freedom Day t-shirts

2008-07-04 Thread Máirín Duffy

Hi Jayme!

Jayme Ayres wrote:

Hi folks!

While enjoying the discussions posted at the Brazilian Ambassadors
list, I created a layout for the Software Freedom Day T-shirt  (
http://softwarefreedomday.org ), Some of those Ambassadors offered to
make such T-shirt for the event. I´ll post that at wiki when they are
finished.

http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/tShirt-SFDay08.png
http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/tShirt-SFDay08.svg


Your software freedom day shirts and logo look *great*! Good job!! What 
is the license on the design? Thanks for sharing them with us!


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Re: art re-use policy

2008-07-04 Thread Máirín Duffy

Hey!

Klaatu and Gort wrote:

The design in question would look like this were i to incorporate Waves:
http://www.thebadapples.info/fedorareloaded/lateNightHacking_waves.png

I could probably have the guy making the CDs include a README file to 
give credit where credit is due, too.


I really, *really* like your Hacker Public radio design, very nice!

The Fedora waves artwork is officially licensed under the GPL (which I 
understand isn't the best for artwork). Are you okay with sharing your 
artwork under the GPL or a similar license in spirit? (eg Creative 
Commons Attribute ShareAlike?) If you are willing to do that, then 
you're definitely fine to use it. If you aren't able to share under such 
a license (eg if the hacker public radio logo is something you want to 
protect), I did the original artwork for that image so we can talk about 
it a bit more.


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[Bug 454078] Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute

2008-07-04 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by 
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[Bug 454078] Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute

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[Bug 181994] Review Request: doulos-fonts - Doulos SIL fonts

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[Bug 181994] Review Request: doulos-fonts - Doulos SIL fonts

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[Bug 452317] Review Request: heuristica-fonts - Heuristica font

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(In reply to comment #7)
 BTW utopia is referenced there http://directory.fsf.org/project/utopia/ if
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Not really. The FSF isn't concerned at all with patents, only that it is under a
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[Bug 454078] Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute

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[Bug 454078] Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute

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Last remark : this font set is very rich, with ~ 1 MiB for the resulting rpm, it
would be nice to split it in 2 ~ 500 KiB subpackages (discuss with upstream what
would be a user-friendly split)

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[Bug 454078] Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute

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Anyway:
1. please take care of the licensing (blocker)
2. try to split the file (nice-to-have)
3. work a bit on the package description (as suggested, or if you have better 
ideas)

Then I'll approve the package (don't wait before I leave for summer vacations)
Thank you for packaging a new font!

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[Bug 453017] Review Request: un-fonts-extra - Korean TrueType fonts

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6. I'd really name the package un-extra-fonts. un-fonts-extra/un-fonts-core
makes it look like they're both subpackages of the same srpm

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Fonts packaging amendment

2008-07-04 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Hi,

I'm proposing the following amendment:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Packaging_font_bundles

to our fonts packaging policy:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/FontsPolicy
(official page, broken by the wiki migration)
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fonts_packaging_policy
(unofficial cleaned-up font page ; I hope someone will the right
accesses picks it up)

Nothing earth-shattering, just a write-up of our current unwritten rules

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Debian's working on a font tarball template - please check and comment

2008-07-04 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
 Message transféré 
De: Nicolas Spalinger 
À: OFLB 
 The note maybe but zipping font files with a detached .TXT file is good
 practice and should be promoted.

Indeed. 100% agreed :-)

I'd also highly recommend a file in the release tarball describing the 
chosen licensing and some kind of readme/changelog. Actually that's why 
the OFL is promoting the concept of a FONTLOG and provides a template.

BTW, here's a proposed VCS branch and tarball template for an open font:
http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-fonts/foo-open-font-sources/?rev=0sc=0

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Re: Debian's working on a font tarball template - please check and comment

2008-07-04 Thread Nicolas Spalinger

Nicolas Mailhot wrote:

 Message transféré 
De: Nicolas Spalinger 
À: OFLB 

The note maybe but zipping font files with a detached .TXT file is good
practice and should be promoted.


Indeed. 100% agreed :-)

I'd also highly recommend a file in the release tarball describing the 
chosen licensing and some kind of readme/changelog. Actually that's why 
the OFL is promoting the concept of a FONTLOG and provides a template.


BTW, here's a proposed VCS branch and tarball template for an open font:
http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-fonts/foo-open-font-sources/?rev=0sc=0

Your feedback very welcome,

Cheers,


Dear Nicolas (and everyone),

Thanks for fwd-ing to the Fedora list :-)

Let me quickly add that this is not intended to be Debian-specific at 
all but comes from suggestions and discussions with SIL designers, 
various people at the last LGM (Libre Graphics Meeting) TLM 
(TextLayoutMeeting) and UDS (Ubuntu Developer Summit). More like a 
cross-distro, cross-OS type spec actually.


The purpose is to make life easier for designers/script engineers 
wanting to use a (D)VCS for collaborative open font design and *also* 
for packagers who make this work available in the distros :-)


Awaiting your feedback.
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Engadget, Essays1743, Isabella, Rockets, and StayPuft fonts.

2008-07-04 Thread Lyos Gemini Norezel

Greetings all...
  I have just submitted a package with all 5 of the fonts mentioned 
in the subject line. The review request is listed here: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454128

  This is my first package, so I am looking for a sponsor.
Feedback is always appreciated.
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Re: Need a hand...

2008-07-04 Thread Saurabh Bathe

Jeffrey Ollie wrote:

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyone in the sysadmin-hosted group able to work on this project?

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/508


And actually, if someone wanted to split that ticket into multiple
requests (maybe even the OP) it'd be easier to track which ones have
been done.


I have worked on the conversion of these projects from their CVS to SVN.
I have SVN dumpfiles, what next?

I think this is also time that I say I would like to be a active helper 
in the group.


I have been doing general sysadmin stuff for about 5-6 years now. Quite 
good with Apache/Tomcat/Mail/LDAP/Nagios. Can do bash/perl. Have 
maintained CVS and svn (though I would not say I am an expert or know a 
lot there). Understand a bit of Puppet and Xen.


For Fedora Infrastructure, I think I would be helpful in 
sysadmin-hosted, sysadmin-cvs, sysadmin-web. But am willing to work on 
whatever else needs to get done :).


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Re: gspca as part of the rawhide kernel?

2008-07-04 Thread Christopher Brown
2008/7/3 Hans de Goede [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi all,

 As some of you know I've been working on improving webcam support under
 Fedora, see:
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterWebcamSupport
 http://hansdegoede.livejournal.com/

 One of the things I've been working on is in beating gspcav2 (a v4l2 port of
 gspca) into shape, although I must admit most of the work has been done by
 Jean-François Moine, the latest version is available from his mercurial tree
 and it has been pulled into the official v4l-dvb tree for wider testing.
 Once it has been in the v4l-dvb tree it will make its way into the mainline
 hopefuly for 2.6.27, if not then certainly fotr 2.6.28.

 To check it out see:
 http://linuxtv.org/hg/~jfrancois/gspca/

 Some time ago I've already done a review of the gspca_core and there are
 some locking issues to solve (I already know how, I just need to code them
 out).

 Once this is done I would like to see gspcav2 be added to the Fedora kernel,
 as to make the:
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterWebcamSupport

 Feature a reality (also needs userspace work, I'm on this).

 So my questions are:
 1) would it be acceptable to cary the gspca driver as a patch (only new
 files
   and makefile / kconfig changes doesn't touch anything else) until it is
   merged upstream. Note that this is much needed for wider webcam support
 and
   that gspca is on its way to the mainline now, and I'll personally will be
   working on ironing out any issues upstream may have with gspca as is.

 2) Assuming the answer to 1 is yes, how do I move forward, can I get be
 added
   to the kernel package acl, what are the procedures for adding a patch and
   building a new kernel, etc?

Personally I'd love to see this in rawhide. If you have a patch that
applies against the current rawhide kernel then scratch-building one
in koji isn't too much of a greater leap. Maybe DaveJ and the other
kernel bods would be happier if i's cleanly applying and won't need
much maintenance. Just note in the kernel.spec to append a buildid
(e.g. gspca) - more info here:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/CustomKernel

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Re: iwl3945 not working with lastest kernel update

2008-07-04 Thread Endy

Mogens Kjaer wrote:

Jeff Gustafson wrote:
...

For me, 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 works much better for my 3945 chip.  I was
having problems with release previous to -76.  I would ssh to a machine
and the session would hang.  That problem now seemed to be fixed.


What kind of encryption do you use on the wireless?

Mogens
I have a iwl4965 chip and the kernel release previous to -76 would lock 
up when attempting to connect to a WEP network, although it worked 
alright for WPA2.  The -76 kernel is working fine, however.

Endy

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Re: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora

2008-07-04 Thread Antonio M
2008/7/3 Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2008/7/3 Brian Mury [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 16:38 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
 Alt-F1 is not working on my system!!! so our problems are not
 completely similar.

 That should be Ctrl-Alt-F1.


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 well

 I installed a kernel from F10, and everything is o.k., at leat graphic
 login is working again, and I can connect to my wireless network using
 my iwl3945.
 I have seen a post by Linville but I cannot find it


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Anyway I filed a bug against kernel, even if I am not sure that it
completely kernel related...
Bugzilla Bug 454055: Latest updates prevent graphic login

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Gnome DVD CDA Autoplay default program

2008-07-04 Thread Federico Marziali
Hello everybody.

I'm running Fedora 9 and using Gnome as desktop environment.

I'm trying to figure out how to add items to the autoplay list for
removable medias (DVD, Audio CD, etc...) handling.
I found the removable media tab under the preferences for Nautilus,
but I could only select one of the predefined entries, not adding my
own.
E.g. I'd like to add (and use) Amarok or KsCD for AudioCD and
Xine/mplayer for DVD.

I'd be happy to manually modify a config file, but I could not find
anything that rang a bell looking under ~/.gnome ~/.gnome2 ~/.gconf
.

Any help/hint is appreciated!
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Re: problems with rhythmbox after updating to udev-124-1.fc9.1

2008-07-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Antti J. Huhtala wrote:

to, 2008-07-03 kello 21:56 +0300, Nicolae Ghimbovschi kirjoitti:

Amarok in my case works just fine.


Sorry, you're right. Amarok does work. My excuse is that I usually play
CDs with rhythmbox and didn't know how to use Amarok properly.
However, I have used Totem and KsCD for this purpose before and they
won't play CDs now...


Additionally, found strange behaviour: Ejecting the CD by clicking the 
CD symbol on the desktop (right button+eject) will eject the CD, but 
immediately after it has been ejected, the cd will be loaded again, so I 
have no chance to take it out.


JB




On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Antti J. Huhtala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

to, 2008-07-03 kello 18:40 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kirjoitti:

Somebody has seen this?

Installing the most recent updates (july 3, 18:00 CEST), having problems
to play music CDs with rhythmbox:

Yes, and it happens in 64-bit systems, too. This does not apply to
rhythmbox alone; Amarok, Totem, and KsCD refuse to play CDs as well.

after inserting a music CD in the drive, the cd icon appears on the
gnome desktop, but nothing is played, and no CD index is shown (see
attachment).

uname -r
2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686


$ uname -r
2.6.25.9-76.fc9.x86_64


rpm -q udev rhythmbox

udev-124-1.fc9.1.i386
rhythmbox-0.11.5-13.fc9.i386


$ rpm -q udev rhythmbox
udev-124-1.fc9.1.x86_64
rhythmbox-0.11.5-13.fc9.x86_64

Hopefully this problem will be fixed soon...

Antti


Thanks for correcting my error, Nicolae

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F9: Scanning with canon lide-30 (USB) produces awful noises

2008-07-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

my scanner is an USB scanner, Canon Lide-30. Since some weeks, sometimes 
when scanning, the scanner produces awful noises during scan (like a 
saw), and the scanner input is unusable.


rpm -qa '*sane*'
libsane-hpaio-2.8.2-2.fc9.i386
xsane-0.995-3.fc9.i386
xsane-gimp-0.995-3.fc9.i386
sane-backends-1.0.19-10.fc9.i386
sane-backends-libs-1.0.19-10.fc9.i386

Does somebody have similar problems?

I think this is a software problem, because I never have this behaviour 
in WinXP.


I found some entries in the Ubuntu forums, but no solution.

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flash

2008-07-04 Thread Arnav Kalra
flash player is not working with firefox 3 on fedora 8
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Re: Problems with IPW3545 and latest kernel

2008-07-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ricard Martí ricard.marti at gmail.com writes:
 Surfed with internet and seen that it's a bug but, there's a plan to solve it
 in a few days? Thanks!

Just revert to the old kernel. It should even still be listed in GRUB.

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Re: F9: Scanning with canon lide-30 (USB) produces awful noises

2008-07-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tim wrote:

On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 09:48 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

my scanner is an USB scanner, Canon Lide-30. Since some weeks,
sometimes when scanning, the scanner produces awful noises during scan
(like a saw), and the scanner input is unusable.


I've had something similar, but my scanner is old, and the toothed belt
that drives the sled up and down isn't as flexible as it used to be.  If
I pull the belt out of the mechanism, it doesn't spring back into a
circular shape, it stays in a long thin loop, as if it were still
wrapped around the cogs.  Sometimes it does skip some teeth the first
time I use it after it's sat untouched for weeks, or months.



Tim,

thanks for your answer, but, again, I think it's a software problem 
because I have no problems under WinXP.


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installing F9 on a DPT SCSI RAID

2008-07-04 Thread GianPiero Puccioni

Hi,

I am having problems installing F9 on a machine with a SCSI RAID board 
DPT(i2o) SmartRaid V. What happens is that the installation procedure 
gives no problems, I can see the single disk produced from the three 
RAID-5 disks and I can partition, format and install everything, but 
when I reboot I get:


Unable to access resume device (/dev/i2o/hda2)
mount: could not find filesystem '/dev/root/'
setuproot: moving /dev failed: No such file or directory
setuproot: error mounting /proc: No such file or directory
setuproot: error mounting /sys: No such file or directory
Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux: No such file or directory
Switchroot: mount failed: No such file or directory

as if the disk is not seen. I tried to look into the initrd image and it 
seems that the i2o_core module (which I think is the one used for the 
DPT) is there. I don't know where I can find a list of the hardware and 
drivers as /etc/syconfig/hwconf is not there anymore and can't find 
anything similar. This is my first F9 and a lot of stuff seems to be 
different form the old FC.


Any help?

Thanks,
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Re: problems with rhythmbox after updating to udev-124-1.fc9.1

2008-07-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Nicolae Ghimbovschi wrote:

I have the same problem with rhythmbox, amarok works fine with audio cds.
Almost the same problem and with the Sound Juicer, it detects the cd tracks
but when I press play it hangs.

2008/7/3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Somebody has seen this?


I guess there is a connection with 
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451320


JB


Installing the most recent updates (july 3, 18:00 CEST), having problems to
play music CDs with rhythmbox:

after inserting a music CD in the drive, the cd icon appears on the gnome
desktop, but nothing is played, and no CD index is shown (see attachment).

uname -r
2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686

rpm -q udev rhythmbox

udev-124-1.fc9.1.i386
rhythmbox-0.11.5-13.fc9.i386

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Re: Thunderbird and junkmail

2008-07-04 Thread Ian Chapman

Richard England wrote:

Here I have set 'When I mark 
messages as junk, move them to the accounts junk folder'.  I also have 
Mark messages determined to be junk as read  set.


Yep, I have identical settings to you here for all my accounts.


- Enable adaptive junk mail controls for this account
- Do not mark mail as junk if the sender is in: Personal Address Book
- Trust junk mail headers set by: SpamPal
- Move new junk messages to:
   Junk folder on : my account
- Automatically delete junk mail older than 7 days.


Yep, I have all of these set for each account except Trust junk mail 
headers and automatically delete is set to 14 days.


Of course there are settings here you may wish to modify but this has 
been working for me for some time. I would verify that both sets of 
settings are as you wish them to be.


Thanks Richard, as far as I can see it just looks like an esoteric bug 
which I have no idea how it's been triggered. The annoying thing is it 
used to work perfectly up until about two weeks ago when it just 
stopped, simultaneously for all accounts and it's been slowly driving me 
nuts ever since. :-) Thanks for the help.


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Re: problems with rhythmbox after updating to udev-124-1.fc9.1

2008-07-04 Thread Antti J. Huhtala
pe, 2008-07-04 kello 09:09 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kirjoitti:
 Antti J. Huhtala wrote:
  to, 2008-07-03 kello 21:56 +0300, Nicolae Ghimbovschi kirjoitti:
  Amarok in my case works just fine.
 
  Sorry, you're right. Amarok does work. My excuse is that I usually play
  CDs with rhythmbox and didn't know how to use Amarok properly.
  However, I have used Totem and KsCD for this purpose before and they
  won't play CDs now...
 
 Additionally, found strange behaviour: Ejecting the CD by clicking the 
 CD symbol on the desktop (right button+eject) will eject the CD, but 
 immediately after it has been ejected, the cd will be loaded again, so I 
 have no chance to take it out.
 
So it does. Same thing if you click on 'Eject' in the pop-up window
asking whether to start rhythmbox or sound juicer. This call for
budzilla report but against which component?
 JB
 
Antti

  
  On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Antti J. Huhtala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  to, 2008-07-03 kello 18:40 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  kirjoitti:
  Somebody has seen this?
 
  Installing the most recent updates (july 3, 18:00 CEST), having problems
  to play music CDs with rhythmbox:
  Yes, and it happens in 64-bit systems, too. This does not apply to
  rhythmbox alone; Amarok, Totem, and KsCD refuse to play CDs as well.
  after inserting a music CD in the drive, the cd icon appears on the
  gnome desktop, but nothing is played, and no CD index is shown (see
  attachment).
 
  uname -r
  2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686
 
  $ uname -r
  2.6.25.9-76.fc9.x86_64
 
  rpm -q udev rhythmbox
 
  udev-124-1.fc9.1.i386
  rhythmbox-0.11.5-13.fc9.i386
 
  $ rpm -q udev rhythmbox
  udev-124-1.fc9.1.x86_64
  rhythmbox-0.11.5-13.fc9.x86_64
 
  Hopefully this problem will be fixed soon...
 
  Antti
 
  Thanks for correcting my error, Nicolae
  
  Antti
  
  
 
 
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Re: Problems with IPW3545 and latest kernel

2008-07-04 Thread Fulko Hew
2008/7/4 Jonathan Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 07:43 +0200, Ricard Martí wrote:
  I've problems connecting wireless with IPW3545 (Intel Pro Wireless
  3545) and latest kernel (kernel-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686). No problems
  were found on the previous kernel. Surfed with internet and seen that
  it's a bug but, there's a plan to solve it in a few days?

 That will depend on how long it takes to find out exactly what broke.
 Feel free to subscribe to the bug (add your e-mail address to the Cc:
 field).


Which Bugzilla # would that be?  I tried searching for 3945, and I can't
find/recognize the appropriate entry.
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Fedora how to

2008-07-04 Thread allen
I have been researching various linux systems and based on my preferences 
Fedora is leading the pack. I would very much like to receive any specific 
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Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
Matthew Saltzman wrote:

 But it seems to me that it should be easy enough to cater for all users,
 by having a setting in some /etc/NM.conf which will allow NM to start
 with a specific connection before anyone logs in
 _if that is what one wants_,
 or if not requires the user to authenticate before connection.
 
 
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/F9Common#networkmanager-static

I read this, and followed the instructions there as well as I could,
creating the following /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 
--
DEVICE=eth1
ONBOOT=yes
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
NM_CONTROLLED=Yes
HWADDR=00:02:2D:21:03:C9
IPADDR=192.168.2.19
NETWORK=192.168.2.0
GATEWAY=192.168.2.2
TYPE=Wireless
DHCP_HOSTNAME=mary.gayleard.com
IPV6INIT=no
ESSID=dd-wrt
KEY=secret
--

But the effect of installing this was to stop NM working.
(It had been working perfectly.)
Actually, WiFi appeared to be working from the flashing lights
on my WiFi card, but I got the message Network unavailable.

In any case, as far as I could see NM (or nm-applet) did not start up
until I logged in, as usual, so even if this had worked
I don't think it would improved matters.

As I said before, the fact that NM starts late does not actually worry me
too much, I just find it puzzling.
To date I have 4 files in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/
to run various programs (eg NFS mount)
which have to wait for a network connection.




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Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

 Occasionally I try to access the internet from a WiFi hotspot
 but my experience in Ireland is that this is rarely as simple as it
 sounds.
 (Last time I tried in a pub here it turned out that they wanted me to
 pay
 the equivalent of several pints of beer.)
 
 OT, but there used to be a place in Westmoreland St. Dublin that allowed
 you unlimited Wifi for the cost of a cup of coffee. We spent a whole
 afternoon there a couple of years ago.
 
 Unfortunately, they've gone out of business ...

Completely OT, but the story of this cafe (Bewley's) was very sad.
The owner (Vincent Bewley) was a quaker saint
who gave all the shares in his very successful group of cafes
to the staff (with shares distributed equally, I believe) ...

This might have succeeded in heaven, but not on earth.


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Re: problems with rhythmbox after updating to udev-124-1.fc9.1

2008-07-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Antti J. Huhtala wrote:

pe, 2008-07-04 kello 09:09 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kirjoitti:

Antti J. Huhtala wrote:

to, 2008-07-03 kello 21:56 +0300, Nicolae Ghimbovschi kirjoitti:

Amarok in my case works just fine.


Sorry, you're right. Amarok does work. My excuse is that I usually play
CDs with rhythmbox and didn't know how to use Amarok properly.
However, I have used Totem and KsCD for this purpose before and they
won't play CDs now...
Additionally, found strange behaviour: Ejecting the CD by clicking the 
CD symbol on the desktop (right button+eject) will eject the CD, but 
immediately after it has been ejected, the cd will be loaded again, so I 
have no chance to take it out.



So it does. Same thing if you click on 'Eject' in the pop-up window
asking whether to start rhythmbox or sound juicer. This call for
budzilla report but against which component?


See:

http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451320

Joachim Backes


JB


Antti


On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Antti J. Huhtala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

to, 2008-07-03 kello 18:40 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kirjoitti:

Somebody has seen this?

Installing the most recent updates (july 3, 18:00 CEST), having problems
to play music CDs with rhythmbox:

Yes, and it happens in 64-bit systems, too. This does not apply to
rhythmbox alone; Amarok, Totem, and KsCD refuse to play CDs as well.

after inserting a music CD in the drive, the cd icon appears on the
gnome desktop, but nothing is played, and no CD index is shown (see
attachment).

uname -r
2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686


$ uname -r
2.6.25.9-76.fc9.x86_64


rpm -q udev rhythmbox

udev-124-1.fc9.1.i386
rhythmbox-0.11.5-13.fc9.i386


$ rpm -q udev rhythmbox
udev-124-1.fc9.1.x86_64
rhythmbox-0.11.5-13.fc9.x86_64

Hopefully this problem will be fixed soon...

Antti


Thanks for correcting my error, Nicolae

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Re: Firefox 3 keeps losing my bookmarks

2008-07-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
Chris Stark wrote:

 While it would seem that soft linking my profile to a local folder would
 solve the issue, it would also mean that my profile would not follow me
 between workstations. Is there anything I can do?

I don't really understand your problem, but have you tried using foxmarks?
Not sure if it would help you,
but I find it useful when using several laptops.


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Re: How to install the old kernel?

2008-07-04 Thread Simon Andrews



On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Wong Kwok-hon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello

How to install back the old kernel? and the command is
RPM rejected my installation because it is older than current.


Ivan Cat wrote:
 Have you tried using --force parameter?

Don't do that!

Using --force is a last resort for when all else fails and you know why 
and you understand what --force is going to do.  RPM doesn't refuse to 
install packages on a whim, it's trying to stop you from screwing things up.


For most packages you can use --oldpackage to tell it that you know the 
package you're tring to update to is older than the current package.


Kernels are different though.  You can parallel install serveral 
kernels, so you'd usuall use rpm -i oldkernel.rpm rather than rpm -U.


You can then use the new kernel by going into the grub menu on boot and 
selecting the older kernel from the list of available kernels.  At this 
stage you can rpm -e the newer kernel pacakage if you really want to get 
rid of it all together.


Simon.

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Garbage on empty KDE desktops

2008-07-04 Thread Timothy Murphy

I am running Fedora-9 (updated) with KDE on a ThinkPad T43.
I have 8 desktops.
I find that those among them that are empty
all have the same messy screen,
with what looks like the garbled remains of an application.

Does anyone else find this?

Is there any program that will clear a desktop not in use?
Or is there some setting I can make that does this?

Any advice gratefully received.


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f9 on eee pc 901?

2008-07-04 Thread Neal Becker
Anyone tried it?

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Re: Verizon DSL ??

2008-07-04 Thread Daniel Anderson


Jim wrote:

Scott Harvanek wrote:
If they don't have a USB or RJ45 port... I don't know what else they'd 
use? osmosis? :)


You could call and *ask* them what features their modems have. :)

-Scott

Jim wrote:
I had a bad experience with dealing with setting up a Dialup 
connection with Verizon, once I mention Linux the help desk, a Indian 
,  he drop me like a hot potato, I failed to do so, never in my 100 
years of use of Linux was not able to setup a Dialup connection.
This computer I'm trying to get on the Internet is a Gateway it uses 
those small pci cards, that doesn't have a ethernet card in it, and I 
will have to use a rj45/USB ethernet adapter, does Verizon DSL modems 
have output ports for rj45 or USB connections.

I have a rj45/USB ethernet  adapter that works fine in Fedora.



Thanks Scott, I was just  wondering if anyone has a DSL service with 
them, but you are right.



Mine has both usb and ethernet ports. Ethernet is preferred.

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Re: problems with rhythmbox after updating to udev-124-1.fc9.1

2008-07-04 Thread Antti J. Huhtala
pe, 2008-07-04 kello 15:05 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kirjoitti:
 Antti J. Huhtala wrote:
  pe, 2008-07-04 kello 09:09 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  kirjoitti:
  Antti J. Huhtala wrote:
  to, 2008-07-03 kello 21:56 +0300, Nicolae Ghimbovschi kirjoitti:
  Amarok in my case works just fine.
 
  Sorry, you're right. Amarok does work. My excuse is that I usually play
  CDs with rhythmbox and didn't know how to use Amarok properly.
  However, I have used Totem and KsCD for this purpose before and they
  won't play CDs now...
  Additionally, found strange behaviour: Ejecting the CD by clicking the 
  CD symbol on the desktop (right button+eject) will eject the CD, but 
  immediately after it has been ejected, the cd will be loaded again, so I 
  have no chance to take it out.
 
  So it does. Same thing if you click on 'Eject' in the pop-up window
  asking whether to start rhythmbox or sound juicer. This call for
  budzilla report but against which component?
 
 See:
 
 http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451320
 
 Joachim Backes
 
Right. The guys seem to argue whether it is a HAL or udev problem.
Better not put my spoon in it.
The interesting question is why Amarok is able to read a CD when all
other CD players I've tried aren't?

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Re: Fedora how to

2008-07-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 07:57:27 -0500,
  allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have been researching various linux systems and based on my preferences 
 Fedora is leading the pack. I would very much like to receive any specific 
 Fedora how to sites.

Probably start at http://fedoraproject.org/ and follow links that interest
you.

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Re: flash

2008-07-04 Thread Jim

Arnav Kalra wrote:

flash player is not working with firefox 3 on fedora 8

check this out;

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/en_US/sn-Desktop.html#sn-XULRunner

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Re: Fedora how to

2008-07-04 Thread Jim van Wel
Hi,

Maybe handy, I use this site to setup my fedora machines quick!

http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f9.html

Greetings,
Jim.

 I have been researching various linux systems and based on my preferences
 Fedora is leading the pack. I would very much like to receive any specific
 Fedora how to sites.

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Re: Problems with IPW3545 and latest kernel

2008-07-04 Thread M A Young

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, Fulko Hew wrote:

Which Bugzilla # would that be?  I tried searching for 3945, and I can't 
find/recognize the appropriate entry.  


I think you want bug 453390. One of the posters there has identified the 
problem, so it shouldn't be too long before it is fixed.


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Re: flash

2008-07-04 Thread Mike Chambers
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 13:20 +0530, Arnav Kalra wrote:
 flash player is not working with firefox 3 on fedora 8

Do you have the flash-plugin from adobe installed?  Do you also have the
libflashsupport rpm from Fedora also installed?  rpm -qa |grep flash
might help determine either.

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Re: Does one have to be a sound engineer?

2008-07-04 Thread max bianco
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I installed Fedora-9 (from the KDE Live CD)
 on a big new disk on my laptop (ThinkPad T43) yesterday,
 and found that sound was not working.
 I noticed on left-clicking on the sound icon in the panel
 that the sound mixer was muted,
 and the sound was set at minimal level as well.
 Why?
 Surely the rational setup would be to have sound working
 at a reasonably high level when one logs on?


I think the reasoning is not breaking the hardware or your ear drums.
 Blowing speakers is relatively easy to do.

 Anyway, after unmuting the sound and increasing the level
 I found there was still no sound.

I had to switch my default to ALSA and all was well.
Preferences--Hardware--Sound ( or something like that)

 Left-clicking on the sound icon, and then left clicking on the word Mixer
 in the small window that appeared brought up a KMix window.
 I noticed that the Front slider was set at the minimal level in this,
 and pushing it up started sound working.

 What exactly does Front mean?

 Windows XP seems to get by without all this sophistication.
 As far as I can see, all I can do under Windows
 is make the sound stronger or weaker.
 I must say that is all I want.

 Am I alone in feeling there is too much expertise,
 and not enough common sense, in the Linux sound community?



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IRC clients?

2008-07-04 Thread Jeffrey Ross
What (GUI) IRC clients are available pre-compiled for Fedora 9?  In the 
past I've used Xirc but I don't seem to be able to find a version 
precompiled for F9 (x86_64)


Thanks, Jeff

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Re: IRC clients?

2008-07-04 Thread Mike Chambers
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 10:55 -0400, Jeffrey Ross wrote:
 What (GUI) IRC clients are available pre-compiled for Fedora 9?  In the 
 past I've used Xirc but I don't seem to be able to find a version 
 precompiled for F9 (x86_64)

There is xchat.

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Re: IRC clients?

2008-07-04 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 04 July 2008 15:55:29 Jeffrey Ross wrote:
 What (GUI) IRC clients are available pre-compiled for Fedora 9?  In the
 past I've used Xirc but I don't seem to be able to find a version
 precompiled for F9 (x86_64)

Not at my Fedora box at the moment, but I think you'll find konversation is 
there, if you use kde.

Anne

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Re: IRC clients?

2008-07-04 Thread Aly Dharshi

have you tried irssi ? It rocks !

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Friday 04 July 2008 15:55:29 Jeffrey Ross wrote:

What (GUI) IRC clients are available pre-compiled for Fedora 9?  In the
past I've used Xirc but I don't seem to be able to find a version
precompiled for F9 (x86_64)

Not at my Fedora box at the moment, but I think you'll find konversation is 
there, if you use kde.


Anne



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Re: Fedora how to

2008-07-04 Thread William Case
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 16:03 +0200, Jim van Wel wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Maybe handy, I use this site to setup my fedora machines quick!
 
 http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f9.html
 
Great resource.  I now have it bookmarked in my Fedora 9 file.  I wish I
had found it sooner.

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Re: IRC clients?

2008-07-04 Thread William Case
Hi;

On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 10:09 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
 On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 10:55 -0400, Jeffrey Ross wrote:
  What (GUI) IRC clients are available pre-compiled for Fedora 9?  In the 
  past I've used Xirc but I don't seem to be able to find a version 
  precompiled for F9 (x86_64)
 
 There is xchat.
If you want to keep it simple, I use xchat-gnome.  xchat-gnome is just a
simplified front end for xchat so you have to download and install both.

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Re: f9 on eee pc 901?

2008-07-04 Thread Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo
Am Freitag, den 04.07.2008, 10:28 -0400 schrieb fred smith:
 On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 09:29:17AM -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
  Anyone tried it?
 Didn't think the 901 was available yet. Do you have one?

Yeee! Mine (eee900) is arriving in 15 days. I've saved this link, Fedora
8 on eee to proceed as soon as she gets on my desk:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2j8bn/eeePC-F8.html

please, tell us how did you did. If you write a howto, i can help u with
when installing mine. May the force be with your eee.
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Re: Possible to extend the /boot partition?

2008-07-04 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

Wong Kwok-hon wrote:

Hello,

My /boot file system is about 100MB and would it possible to extend
online? Which software should I use ?


Thanks...

Best Regards,
Wong Kwok Hon

Dumb question - why do you want to increase the size of your /boot 
partition?


You can use gparted to adjust the sizes of your partitions. I would 
recommend using the stand alone CD version, as you do not want to 
try and resize/move mounted partitions. Also, /boot is usually one 
of the hardest partitions to resize, as it usually involves moving 
other partitions to make room.


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formatting an e-book

2008-07-04 Thread Steve
I just bought a 1TB My Book external HD with the idea of using it to back up 
both my Fedora box and my wife's Vista laptop. I was going to partition half of 
it as NTFS and the other half ext3. The documentation says that it comes 
preformatted with a single FAT32 partition but this looks strange to me

# mount
...
/dev/sdc1 on /media/My Book type vfat 
(rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=500)

# fdisk -l /dev/sdc1
Disk /dev/sdc1: 1000.2 GB, 1000202241024 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121600 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xx

This doesn't look like a partition table
Probably you selected the wrong device.

 Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdc1p1   ?  119512  153402   272218546+  20  Unknown
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sdc1p2   ?   82801  116350   269488144   6b  Unknown
Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sdc1p3   ?   33551  120595   699181456   53  OnTrack DM6 Aux3
Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sdc1p4   *   86812   86813   10668+  49  Unknown
Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary.

Partition table entries are not in disk order

Anybody else had any experience with one if these?

Steve

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Re: formatting an e-book

2008-07-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 04 July 2008, Steve wrote:
I just bought a 1TB My Book external HD with the idea of using it to back up
 both my Fedora box and my wife's Vista laptop. I was going to partition
 half of it as NTFS and the other half ext3. The documentation says that it
 comes preformatted with a single FAT32 partition but this looks strange to
 me

# mount
...
/dev/sdc1 on /media/My Book type vfat
 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=500)

# fdisk -l /dev/sdc1

Wrong, you wanted the base device, probably /dev/sdc, not some partition on it.

Disk /dev/sdc1: 1000.2 GB, 1000202241024 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121600 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xx

This doesn't look like a partition table
Probably you selected the wrong device.

 Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdc1p1   ?  119512  153402   272218546+  20  Unknown
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sdc1p2   ?   82801  116350   269488144   6b  Unknown
Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sdc1p3   ?   33551  120595   699181456   53  OnTrack DM6 Aux3
Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sdc1p4   *   86812   86813   10668+  49  Unknown
Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary.

Partition table entries are not in disk order

Anybody else had any experience with one if these?

Steve



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Re: IRC clients?

2008-07-04 Thread Marcelo Magno T. Sales
Em Sexta 04 Julho 2008, Jeffrey Ross escreveu:
 What (GUI) IRC clients are available pre-compiled for Fedora 9?  In
 the past I've used Xirc but I don't seem to be able to find a version
 precompiled for F9 (x86_64)

 Thanks, Jeff


Konversation is available in Fedora, I like it.


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Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-04 Thread Matthew Saltzman

On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 14:58 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Matthew Saltzman wrote:
 
  But it seems to me that it should be easy enough to cater for all users,
  by having a setting in some /etc/NM.conf which will allow NM to start
  with a specific connection before anyone logs in
  _if that is what one wants_,
  or if not requires the user to authenticate before connection.
  
  
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/F9Common#networkmanager-static
 
 I read this, and followed the instructions there as well as I could,
 creating the following /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 
 --
 DEVICE=eth1
 ONBOOT=yes
 BOOTPROTO=dhcp
 NM_CONTROLLED=Yes
 HWADDR=00:02:2D:21:03:C9
 IPADDR=192.168.2.19
 NETWORK=192.168.2.0
 GATEWAY=192.168.2.2
 TYPE=Wireless
 DHCP_HOSTNAME=mary.gayleard.com
 IPV6INIT=no
 ESSID=dd-wrt
 KEY=secret
 --
 
 But the effect of installing this was to stop NM working.
 (It had been working perfectly.)
 Actually, WiFi appeared to be working from the flashing lights
 on my WiFi card, but I got the message Network unavailable.
 
 In any case, as far as I could see NM (or nm-applet) did not start up
 until I logged in, as usual, so even if this had worked
 I don't think it would improved matters.

First, I haven't actually tired this yet, as I haven't had time to
install F9 on any of my machines.  But I will have a chance sometime
soon, maybe this weekend.

nm-applet doesn't start until you log in, but NetworkManager starts at
boot if it is set to do so.  My understanding is that NM (the service)
should start an interface at boot if ifcfg-device is set up correctly.
It's likely that mobile users wouldn't want an interface to come up if
it wasn't under their control (through nm-applet).

 
 As I said before, the fact that NM starts late does not actually worry me
 too much, I just find it puzzling.
 To date I have 4 files in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/
 to run various programs (eg NFS mount)
 which have to wait for a network connection.

I think I've seen that the NM service will be set to start earlier in
the boot sequence in a soon-to-be-released update.  The longer-term
solution would be to have services that require a network understand how
to wait for one to come up (through dBus, for example).

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Re: formatting an e-book

2008-07-04 Thread Steve

 Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 On Friday 04 July 2008, Steve wrote:
 I just bought a 1TB My Book external HD with the idea of using it to back up
  both my Fedora box and my wife's Vista laptop. I was going to partition
  half of it as NTFS and the other half ext3. The documentation says that it
  comes preformatted with a single FAT32 partition but this looks strange to
  me
 
 # mount
 ...
 /dev/sdc1 on /media/My Book type vfat
  (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=500)
 
 # fdisk -l /dev/sdc1
 
 Wrong, you wanted the base device, probably /dev/sdc, not some partition on 
 it.

Doh!! That's the 2nd time I've made that mistake recently.
]# fdisk -l /dev/sdc

Disk /dev/sdc: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdc1   1  121601   976760001c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)

That's better!

Now I think I need to upgrade my BIOS so that I can boot with this thing 
plugged in.

Thanks,
Steve

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Re: Does one have to be a sound engineer?

2008-07-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
max bianco wrote:

 Surely the rational setup would be to have sound working
 at a reasonably high level when one logs on?
 
 I think the reasoning is not breaking the hardware or your ear drums.
  Blowing speakers is relatively easy to do.

Windows doesn't seem to worry about that.
As it happens, I am using the laptop speaker -
I doubt if this has ever deafened anyone.

 I had to switch my default to ALSA and all was well.
 Preferences--Hardware--Sound ( or something like that)

I'm using KDE, and don't see any setting like this in the main menu.
The only sound application there is KMix,
which does not seem to offer anything along those lines.

The only other application that I can see to control sound
is System Settings=Sound
and I don't see anything similar there either.

(Incidentally, I would have thought the default was always ALSA -
what else could it be?)



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Re: Fedora how to

2008-07-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
David Boles wrote:

 Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Jim van Wel wrote:
 
 Maybe handy, I use this site to setup my fedora machines quick!

 http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f9.html
 
 I agree, this is the best Fedora HOWTO I know.
 
 The official HOWTOs on fedoraforum are seriously deficient
 in dealing with multimedia, because of their obsession
 with open source, or rather their refusal to steer the user
 to any of the sites carrying essential non-free codecs, etc.

 The clear reason(s) for which have been explained many, many, times
 Timothy.

Repetition does not make it any less annoying.


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Re: Does one have to be a sound engineer?

2008-07-04 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Fri, 7/4/08, Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Does one have to be a sound engineer?
 To: fedora-list@redhat.com
 Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 10:54 AM
 max bianco wrote:
 
  Surely the rational setup would be to have sound
 working
  at a reasonably high level when one logs on?
  
  I think the reasoning is not breaking the hardware or
 your ear drums.
   Blowing speakers is relatively easy to do.
 
 Windows doesn't seem to worry about that.
 As it happens, I am using the laptop speaker -
 I doubt if this has ever deafened anyone.
 
  I had to switch my default to ALSA and all was well.
  Preferences--Hardware--Sound ( or something
 like that)
 
 I'm using KDE, and don't see any setting like this
 in the main menu.
 The only sound application there is KMix,
 which does not seem to offer anything along those lines.
 
 The only other application that I can see to control sound
 is System Settings=Sound
 and I don't see anything similar there either.
 
 (Incidentally, I would have thought the default was always
 ALSA -
 what else could it be?)
It was arts for KDE and esound for Gnome prior to PulseAudio.  Now it is 
PulseAudio.  
 
 
 
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Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
Matthew Saltzman wrote:

  But it seems to me that it should be easy enough to cater for all
  users, by having a setting in some /etc/NM.conf which will allow NM to
  start with a specific connection before anyone logs in
  _if that is what one wants_,
  or if not requires the user to authenticate before connection.
  
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/F9Common#networkmanager-static
 
 I read this, and followed the instructions there as well as I could,

 First, I haven't actually tired this yet, as I haven't had time to
 install F9 on any of my machines.  But I will have a chance sometime
 soon, maybe this weekend.

I've tried it with various versions of ifcfg-eth1 .
(It was suggested to me that giving an IPADDR when using dhcp 
might confuse NM.)

In any case, my experience has been that as soon as I move ifcfg-eth1
to /etc/sysconfig/network-script/ , NM stops working,
with the message You have been disconnected ...

(So at least NM must be looking at this file.
I'm pretty sure it didn't do that earlier in its life.)

 nm-applet doesn't start until you log in, but NetworkManager starts at
 boot if it is set to do so.  My understanding is that NM (the service)
 should start an interface at boot if ifcfg-device is set up correctly.
 It's likely that mobile users wouldn't want an interface to come up if
 it wasn't under their control (through nm-applet).

Depends what you mean by a mobile user.

Personally, I would like NM to try to connect
to the last ESSID it succeeded in connecting to,
and if it can't connect then ask me which of the ESSIDs it sees
I want to connect to.

Just like Windows XP, in fact, which seems to me to have this about right.

 I think I've seen that the NM service will be set to start earlier in
 the boot sequence in a soon-to-be-released update.  The longer-term
 solution would be to have services that require a network understand how
 to wait for one to come up (through dBus, for example).

Actually, it is not too difficult to start them
in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/ .

I just don't think it is a very rational arrangement.




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Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-04 Thread Mike Chambers
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 12:33 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:

Since this subject is bout Boinc and solved, shouldn't another thread be
started, at least about what your currently talking about so can be
followed from archives a little easier?  Otherwise, who would know to
search for boinc when discussing NM stuff? LOL

Sorry, not ranting on your discussion, I don't care, just bringing up a
suggestion for future fedoraers haha (is that a word?)

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Re: grub not working after kernel update

2008-07-04 Thread Joe Klemmer

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, lee wrote:

  I just upgraded my laptop using yum. Upgrade included a new kernel, 
  after upgrade finished I rebooted. Now all I get is GRUB on my 
  screen. I booted with rescue disk and can see nothing wrong with 
  grub. New kernel is 2.6.26.9-76.fc9.i686.


  This happened to me recently. I booted from a live cd and reinstalled 
 grub. After that the system booted up. If you don't know how do it let 
 us knows to get step by step instructions. EJ


Thanks for all the help. Used rescue disk and reinstalled grub. Works 
fine now.


	Heh, I wish I'd seen this earlier.  The same thing happened to me 
and now the box is feeling less than cooperative.  Could someone please 
post the step by step instructions for an oldtimer?  I'd google but I'm 
having to use a public box to access the 'Net at the moment.  If it's not 
to much trouble could you CC to [EMAIL PROTECTED] please?  It's bood 
to have a fallback.


Joe

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Re: Firefox 3 keeps losing my bookmarks

2008-07-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 15:07 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Chris Stark wrote:
 
  While it would seem that soft linking my profile to a local folder would
  solve the issue, it would also mean that my profile would not follow me
  between workstations. Is there anything I can do?
 
 I don't really understand your problem, but have you tried using foxmarks?
 Not sure if it would help you,
 but I find it useful when using several laptops.

Foxmarks works pretty well for bookmarks, though they don't encrypt your
data on their servers, so beware.

Weave is a new add-on (0.2 was just released) which is supported by
Mozilla itself and can handle bookmarks, cookies and several other
things. It does encrypt your data (in the client, so the server never
sees the plaintext). Unfortunately there are problems with the 64-bit
versions at the moment.

poc

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Re: BOINC again !? -- BINGO, BINGO and BINGO

2008-07-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 15:03 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 
  Occasionally I try to access the internet from a WiFi hotspot
  but my experience in Ireland is that this is rarely as simple as it
  sounds.
  (Last time I tried in a pub here it turned out that they wanted me to
  pay
  the equivalent of several pints of beer.)
  
  OT, but there used to be a place in Westmoreland St. Dublin that allowed
  you unlimited Wifi for the cost of a cup of coffee. We spent a whole
  afternoon there a couple of years ago.
  
  Unfortunately, they've gone out of business ...
 
 Completely OT, but the story of this cafe (Bewley's) was very sad.
 The owner (Vincent Bewley) was a quaker saint
 who gave all the shares in his very successful group of cafes
 to the staff (with shares distributed equally, I believe) ...
 
 This might have succeeded in heaven, but not on earth.

Bewley's actually was extremely successful for over 150 years until it
closed in 2004. The Grafton St. branch has since reopened under new
management but of course it's not the same. I think they still have the
amazing stained-glass windows though.

Anyway, the place I'm talking about wasn't Bewley's, or indeed even
remotely in the same class.

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Re: Fedora how to

2008-07-04 Thread Steve Searle
Around 06:56pm on Friday, July 04, 2008 (UK time), Timothy Murphy scrawled:

 Repetition does not make it any less annoying.

So don't keep repeating it then.

Steve

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Re: grub not working after kernel update

2008-07-04 Thread redhatdude


-- Original message --
From: Joe Klemmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, lee wrote:
 
I just upgraded my laptop using yum. Upgrade included a new kernel, 
after upgrade finished I rebooted. Now all I get is GRUB on my 
screen. I booted with rescue disk and can see nothing wrong with 
grub. New kernel is 2.6.26.9-76.fc9.i686.
  
This happened to me recently. I booted from a live cd and reinstalled 
   grub. After that the system booted up. If you don't know how do it let 
   us knows to get step by step instructions. EJ
  
  Thanks for all the help. Used rescue disk and reinstalled grub. Works 
  fine now.
 
   Heh, I wish I'd seen this earlier.  The same thing happened to me 
 and now the box is feeling less than cooperative.  Could someone please 
 post the step by step instructions for an oldtimer?  I'd google but I'm 
 having to use a public box to access the 'Net at the moment.  If it's not 
 to much trouble could you CC to [EMAIL PROTECTED] please?  It's bood 
 to have a fallback.
 
 Joe
 

Get the live CD or the Fedora 9 Installer DVD.
Make sure your computer BIOS is configured to start from the cd/dvd, this is in 
case it doesn't boot up from the cd/dvd.
From the CD open the terminal. From the Installer DVD select Rescue Mode.
From the CD terminal become root by doing: su -
There's no password.
From the DVD no need, you fall into a terminal.
1-Let's find your boot partition

fdisk -l

You'll get something like this among other things.
   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *   1  25  200781   83  Linux
/dev/sda2  26486638885332+  8e  Linux LVM

See the asterisk? That's your boot partition, sda1. So now you know.

2- Let's restart the grub boot loader

type grub and press enter. You'll get this.

# grub
Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.


GNU GRUB  version 0.97  (640K lower / 3072K upper memory)

 [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported.  For the first word, TAB
   lists possible command completions.  Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
   completions of a device/filename.]
grub 

3- At the grub prompt let's select the partition with the command root (hd0,0). 
Zero means the first one.
This is the output.

grub root (hd0,0)
root (hd0,0)
 Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83

If your boot partition is sda2 then the command would be: root (hd0,0). For 
sdb1: root (hd1,0). For sdb2: root (hd1,1). Got it?

4- Once the partition is selected, reinstall grub with this command.

setup (hd0)

Note. If your partition was sdb1 then setup (hd1)

5- Now enter quit at the grub prompt and reboot.

If you have any problems, post here the errors as well as the output of fdisk -l

Hope that helps.
EJ

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Re: Fedora how to

2008-07-04 Thread Olivier Robert
Hi Allen,

You might find http://www.my-guides.net/en/content/view/103/26/ an
interesting read.

Enjoy,
Olivier

2008/7/4 allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  I have been researching various linux systems and based on my preferences
 Fedora is leading the pack. I would very much like to receive any specific
 Fedora how to sites.

 Allen Meyers

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F9 Nautilus Browser File signing Black Chooser? Seahorse Installed

2008-07-04 Thread Frank Murphy

Anyone have a blank chooser if trying to sign files through nautilus?
even though one has gpg keys.

Frank

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solved vmware kills syslog fish, fedora users archive fishing

2008-07-04 Thread Dave Burns
I solved this issue myself, but thought I'd send this message anyhow.
Indulge me.

toss me a fish:

There was a thread recently that discussed a problem whose symptom was
that syslog died and the logs were deleted. Turns out that installing
vmware had something to do with it. I thought I carefully saved this
thread, can't find it now. I wanted to know how did OP restore syslog
to good health? /sbin/restorecon /etc/services was the fish.

teach me to fish:
How could I search the archive at
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ to find this, since I
know not the thread, author, or date? I tried googling:

site:https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ vmware syslog

And got a lot of hits from January and February. I constrained the
search to the past two months, got nothing, which I know is wrong.
Tried:


site:https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ vmware syslogd

and hit  paydirt. Yay me! Woe to the person who doesn't half-know the
solution already - without the 'vmware' term in there, much harder to
find the solution.

And mahalo to the list for making me so utterly knowledgeable!

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'gpaint' or 'kolourpaint'

2008-07-04 Thread das
Hello Friends

How can I get 'gpaint' or 'kolourpaint' in Fedora 8? I tried to
compile the 'gpaint-2.0.3.3.tar.gz' but it is giving so many problems.
Is there any simple way to get these two? For some very simple work I
need them. Gimp or Inkscape are too heavy for these simple works. Even
'xpaint' is not compiling on F-8.

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Re: 'gpaint' or 'kolourpaint'

2008-07-04 Thread Marcelo Magno T. Sales
Em Sexta 04 Julho 2008, das escreveu:
 Hello Friends

 How can I get 'gpaint' or 'kolourpaint' in Fedora 8? I tried to
 compile the 'gpaint-2.0.3.3.tar.gz' but it is giving so many
 problems. Is there any simple way to get these two? For some very
 simple work I need them. Gimp or Inkscape are too heavy for these
 simple works. Even 'xpaint' is not compiling on F-8.


kolourpaint is in the package kdegraphics.


[]'s
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Re: 'gpaint' or 'kolourpaint'

2008-07-04 Thread Markku Kolkka
das kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika perjantai, 4. heinäkuuta 
2008):
 How can I get 'gpaint' or 'kolourpaint' in Fedora 8?

Kolourpaint is part of the kdegraphics package. yum install 
kdegraphics or use one of the GUI front-ends.

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Looking for an picture management program - ideas please.

2008-07-04 Thread Chris G
I'm looking for a picture (image) management program to handle a large
collection of photos dating from the 1960s to the present day.

My *main* requirement is a program which allows me to store the photos
in a standard directory hierarchy and which uses that hierarchy as the
basic organisation. My main structure is a series of directories which
are named by year, i.e. I have directories called 1994, 1995, 1996,
1997, etc.  Then within the year directories I have sub-directories
containing the actual images, I want to call these things like:-

Jan - Snow at Newbourne
April - visit to Poland
April - pictures of pets at home
May - riding

Now the big issue is that I want to be able to sort these directories
containing the images in chronological order.  This basically requires
either that the program allows me to add some sort of property to an
image directory indicating its date or it allows me to sort the
directories manually.

Even if I use numbers for the months (01 - Jan, 02 - Feb, etc.) it's
not a perfect solution because different directories for the same
month will still not be sorted correctly (e.g. April above).

Does anyone know of an image viewing/editing/managing program that
provides this sort of organisation?  At the moment I'm using digikam
which is close to what I want but doesn't provide the chronological
sorting I want within its folder structure.

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Playing Video on Cspan.org

2008-07-04 Thread Jim
When trying to play videos on Cspan.org , it can't play because of a 
protocol called rtsp ,  what video player, plays this protocol  ?


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Re: Nevermind!! - Re: RedHat F8 OpenOffice - Has Stopped Recognizing EPS Graphics

2008-07-04 Thread Rick Bilonick

On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 16:04 -0500, Marc Schwartz wrote:
 Rick Bilonick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 11:10 -0400, Rick Bilonick wrote:
  I'm running F8 (since January) and using openoffice 2.3 (RedHat's rpms).
  Now all of a sudden I cannot insert eps graphics nor convert them using
  draw to emf. It says it doesn't recognize the file format. It had also
  started saying my personal files were locked but re-booting has seemed
  to stop this. How can I fix this?
  
  Rick B.
  
 
  It wasn't a problem with openoffice. It was a problem with the supposed
  eps file (created from R using cairo_ps function instead of postscript
  function).
 
  Rick B.
 
 Rick,
 
 You might note from ?cairo in R, in the Details section:
 
   The cairo_ps output is not yet encapsulated (that is coming in cairo
   1.6). 
 
 Also, if you are using a current version of R, you might want to note
 the relatively new setEPS() function. See ?setEPS for more information.
 
 HTH,
 
 Marc Schwartz
 

Thanks for the information. I should have checked out the function more
but I was in a hurry. The problem I was having with the R postscript
funciton under F8 was that it was creating gray images instead of color
images. I couldn't figure out how to get the color. The cairo_ps
function produced color images. I used eps2eps hoping it would fix what
was wrong and it did. So I got the color and a usable eps file. I'll
look into setEPS.

Rick B.

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Re: ifdown. is it really down? [solved]

2008-07-04 Thread g


Tim wrote:


Just wondering:  Are you using NetworkManager?


i was, not now. i had too many problems with it and stopped using it.
i noticed this problem after.

problem is i was blinking when i was looking. as it turned out, flash is a
'heart beat' and is continuous.

'heart beat' did not cross my mind before as i had not noticed interval.

seems that i had not watched long enough to notice that flashing was
occurring at a 20 second interval.

i was having problems with tbird and f8 and a couple other things, so
i decided to do a new install.

i pulled both ethernet and dsl cables and while walking back to desk to check
install, i noticed a double flash. i sat down and started watching led and
tried to not blink or blink after flash. it was then that i realized what was
happening.

having forgotten password for modem, i called tech support to get it reset.
afterwards i asked about blinking and they confirmed.

seems that this modem will flash twice with no ethernet cable plugged in and
single flash with cable plugged in.


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Re: RedHat F8 Openoffice 2.3 Says My Personal Settings Are Locked

2008-07-04 Thread Rick Bilonick

On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 11:44 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 10:35 -0400, Rick Bilonick wrote:
  I'm using the RedHat version of Openoffice 2.3 in F8. I've been using
  it
  since January without any major problems. Now every time I start it,
  it
  warns me that my personal settings are locked. I've looked through
  them
  but don't see any lock file to unlock.
 
 Does it say the settings are locked by another process? If not, it seems
 more likely to be a file permissions problem than a locking problem. A
 quick look at ~/.openoffice.org2.0 shows no files which aren't writeable
 by me, so you could try chmod -R u+w ~/.openoffice.org2.0
 
 poc
 

The weird thing is the problem disappeared. I did look in
~/.openoffice.org2.0 but could not find a lock file. I'm using this on
a laptop. Exiting ooo didn't fix it but it went away after a reboot.

Rick B.

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Problem with system-config-printer.py

2008-07-04 Thread Chris Carlson

Is there some dependency issue here?  Has anybody else seen this?


Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/share/system-config-printer/system-config-printer.py, line 
29, in module

   import gtk.glade
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py, line 
48, in module

   from gtk import _gtk
ImportError: /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2: symbol 
png_set_expand_gray_1_2_4_to_8, version PNG12_0 not defined in file 
libpng12.so.0 with link time reference



Thanks for any help you might have.
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Re: Does one have to be a sound engineer?

2008-07-04 Thread Tim
max bianco:
 I think the reasoning is not breaking the hardware or your ear drums.
 Blowing speakers is relatively easy to do.

Timothy Murphy:
 Windows doesn't seem to worry about that.
 As it happens, I am using the laptop speaker -
 I doubt if this has ever deafened anyone.

Try using powered speakers with no volume control on them (some JBL
speakers that came with a Compaq monitor, long ago), they depend on your
mixer to completely control levels.  They go damn loud when driven with
full audio levels.

A proper use of a volume control would be that a high level (on your
control position) is relative to very loud audio.  That's not a good
default.

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Re: Playing Video on Cspan.org

2008-07-04 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 17:15 -0400, Jim wrote:
 When trying to play videos on Cspan.org , it can't play because of a 
 protocol called rtsp ,  what video player, plays this protocol  ? 

I've managed, with a bit of pain, to use mplayer to view that sort of
thing.  I think VLC can, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Time_Streaming_Protocol#Clients

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Re: Problem with system-config-printer.py

2008-07-04 Thread Chris Carlson
Sorry, I should have indicated that I'm running F9.  I'm not sure what 
else one would need to know.  I click on the 
System-Administration-Printing pulldown, and this is what gets printed 
in my .xsession-errors file.


Chris


Chris Carlson wrote:

Is there some dependency issue here?  Has anybody else seen this?


Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/share/system-config-printer/system-config-printer.py, 
line 29, in module

   import gtk.glade
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py, line 
48, in module

   from gtk import _gtk
ImportError: /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2: symbol 
png_set_expand_gray_1_2_4_to_8, version PNG12_0 not defined in file 
libpng12.so.0 with link time reference



Thanks for any help you might have.
Chris



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Fedora 9 X dual monitor problem

2008-07-04 Thread David Kramer
I recently upgraded my laptop from Fedora 8 to Fedora 9. As always, I 
backed up the old system and started from reformatted drives. I never 
upgrade my OS in place. This is on my Dell Latitude D820 with a 15.4 
inch 1680x1050 screen, using the proprietary Nvidia driver. I've had 
quite a few problems with F9. I don't know how much of my pain is coming 
from KDE4 being fresh out of the oven, and how much of it is F9 itself.


When I was running F8, I was able to sucessfully hook up the external 
video port to my Sony Bravia TV's PC port. It does 1380x768. This is 
essential functionality for me, so I can watch MythTV on the TV while 
using my internal screen for email/web/etc. I used separate Xs, not 
TwinView or Xinerama (I experimented with those, but windows would 
launch on the TV when it wasn't hooked up, so I couldn't get to them). 
And all was right in the world


After I loaded F9, I'm not able to get the TV to display anything. I see 
a crosshatch pattern over the screen, and if I move the mouse to that 
screen, I see the cursor, but I can't right click or left click. I even 
tried the exact xorg.conf from F8, and that didn't work either. Instead 
of the crosshatch pattern, the TV was just black.


I have a complete writeup, with links to the config and log files at:
http://www.thekramers.net/tmp/xproblem/

Someone suggested that X wasn't starting on that screen (:1), and to try 
to start it separately, but that didn't work.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ export DISPLAY=:1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo $DISPLAY
:1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ kwin
kwin: FATAL ERROR while trying to open display :1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ metacity
Window manager error: Unable to open X display :1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

* Config file two screens, worked in F8, but not F9
* Log file (from F9), two screens, worked in F8 but not in F9
* Log file, single screen, works
* Config file, single screen, works
* Log file, two screens, broken
* Config file, two screens, broken

Some other related problems I'm having:

* nvidia-settings puts an entry in xorg.conf for RgbPath, and X 
fails to start, claiming it's invalid. I have to remove that line every 
time I rerun nvidia-settings.
* It says it can't load the module type1, but I can't see any 
packages (using yum or yumex) having to do with type1 fonts that isn't 
installed.
* It looks like glx is loading when you look at some parts of the 
log files, and that it isn't in others. How can I tell for sure, and how 
can I fix it if it isn't loading?
* The fonts applications and KDE use seem very inconsistent. I have 
Firefox and Thunderbird to use font sized 10 and 12 for most things, but 
sometimes they will show text using a font that looks like it's at least 
20, and sometimes emails appear in a font too small to easily read, and 
in light grey. I have it set to view in plain text and quoted lines in 
black in the same font. I know that sounds like a Thunderbird problem, 
but since I'm having font troubles in general, I'm not sure. Also not 
sure if it's related to the type1 module problem above.


Thanks.


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Re: Firefox 3 keeps losing my bookmarks

2008-07-04 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 03Jul2008 19:21, Chris Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 While it would seem that soft linking my profile to a local folder would  
 solve the issue, it would also mean that my profile would not follow me  
 between workstations. Is there anything I can do?

You could run your firefox from a shell wrapper. Treat the local folder
as a cache. Rsync from the master to the local folder, run firefox,
rsync back at exit. You could even do backups.

A little cumbersome, but probably more reliable. It should also get you
faster performance, since disc access will be local.
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Re: F9 NFS install fails [SOLVED]

2008-07-04 Thread Matthew Saltzman

On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 03:58 +, Amadeus W.M. wrote:
 On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:17:06 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
 
  I'm trying to install F9 on a machine that doesn't have a DVD drive.  I
  burned the boot.iso and boot from that.
  
  I mount the install DVD on another machine and NFS export it.  I can
  mount the exported directory on another machine (and even that machine
  booted with its current F7).
  
  I boot for the boot ISO and select NFS install.  I assign the IPv4
  address, netmask, gateway, and nameserver as they are defined for other
  machines on the LAN and specify the IP address and directory of the NFS
  serving machine.  IPv6 is disabled.
  
  But the installer is always unable to mount the NFS volume.
  
  Is there something I'm missing?
  
  TIA.
 
 When installing from alternative media such as the hard disk or nfs, you 
 tell the installer the drive (e.g. /dev/sda2) and the directory where the 
 actual ISO image resides (e.g. Fedora-9-i386-DVD.iso).

That was it, thanks!

 
 To make the install faster, do a hard disk install. That is, put the iso 
 image on the machine you want to install, on a partition that you do not 
 format during the install (e.g. in /home/user). If you're installing on a 
 machine that's not already running linux, then you must do a network 
 install.

It didn't seem as though the installer recognizes LVM volumes.  But the
net install is working fine.

 
 On the machine with dvd drive:
 
 dd if=/dev/dvd of=Fedora-9-i386-DVD.iso
 
 then transfer it to the target machine.
 
 
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Re: Fedora how to

2008-07-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
Steve Searle wrote:

 Around 06:56pm on Friday, July 04, 2008 (UK time), Timothy Murphy
 scrawled:
 
 Repetition does not make it any less annoying.
 
 So don't keep repeating it then.

I didn't repeat anything.

I said, once:
-
 http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f9.html

I agree, this is the best Fedora HOWTO I know.

The official HOWTOs on fedoraforum are seriously deficient
in dealing with multimedia, because of their obsession
with open source, or rather their refusal to steer the user
to any of the sites carrying essential non-free codecs, etc.
-

Now I have said it twice.

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