Re: Wine 1 and Office 2003?
Tim yahoo.com.au> writes: > > If mathematical symbols are used then certain symbols are displayed > > incorrectly when viewed on the other system. > > Is that data exchange compatibility problems (hard to work around), or > just different fonts and text encodings between the two systems (user > choices)? I thought it was the former and have been unable to work around this -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Problem with wine/crossover after today's update - more info
Mike gmail.com> writes: > I have two other machines which have nominally the same setup but > which have nvidia graphics whereas the machine which has the problem > has ATI graphics - I seem to remember that there is a wine problem I found that I had not updated the Crossover from 6.2 to 7.0 - that made Excel under Crossover work again - the wine problem with Excel 2003 remains on all machines I have tried. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
yum problem installing php-devel
Hi, I am trying to install yum with following command and it stops everything giving libssl and libcrypto errors yum install php-devel Dependencies Resolved = Package Arch Version RepositorySize = Installing: php-devel i386 5.2.6-2.fc7 updates 549 k Updating: php i386 5.2.6-2.fc7 updates 1.2 M php-cli i386 5.2.6-2.fc7 updates 2.4 M php-common i386 5.2.6-2.fc7 updates 226 k php-gd i386 5.2.6-2.fc7 updates 111 k php-mbstringi386 5.2.6-2.fc7 updates 1.1 M php-mysql i386 5.2.6-2.fc7 updates78 k php-pdo i386 5.2.6-2.fc7 updates61 k php-xml i386 5.2.6-2.fc7 updates96 k Installing for dependencies: openssl i386 0.9.8b-17.fc8fedora1.4 M rpm -qa | grep openssl openssl-devel-0.9.8g-6.fc9.i386 openssl-0.9.8g-6.fc9.i686 So I already have openssl installed but still yum fails giving following errors: Running rpm_check_debug ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve: libcrypto.so.7 is needed by (installed) mysql-administrator-5.0r12-5.fc9.i386 lots of other lines libcrypto.so.7 is needed by (installed) w3m-0.5.2-10.fc9.i386 libssl.so.7 is needed by (installed) mysql-administrator-5.0r12-5.fc9.i386 lots of other lines libssl.so.7 is needed by (installed) kdebase3-3.5.9-10.fc9.i386 openssl is needed by (installed) openssl-devel-0.9.8g-6.fc9.i386 Complete! How can I resolve this? Why does it need to install an old version of openssl when new is already there? Regards, Amit. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
KDE hosed - no display
This morning my F9 box gets to the login screen, then I get a white box on a black background. The white box disappears and I'm left with a black screen. It seems that things carry on in the background, as, after a while, I get the chimes that signal that the system is ready to go. I've checked that it isn't the kernel that's the problem - it happens on both kernels. The session menu at login doesn't show any other dm, so I thought I must have forgotten to install an extra one. I went into failsafe mode and first tried for updates, to be told that there are none. I then tried to install gnome-desktop, figuring that it would pick up the necessaries from there. It says that gnome-desktop is already installed. At this point I'm at a loss to know what's next. Advice? Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9 will not update
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:50:07 -0400, Bob Barrett wrote:
> Because the problem seemed to be with yum, I didn't think all the stuff
> I had removed was relevant.
Only with the full output one can draw conclusions. Some further below.
> When running "yum list installed..." it said
> had the two packages.
Correct, but during the "yum update" it shows whether there are
updates. And since there are updates for the two packages you queried,
it doesn't become clear what requires the old packages.
> When doing an update, it said it didn't have them.
Because it no longer sees them if there are updates to these pkgs.
> I haven't updated in some time because I thought the problem may be fixed
> with a later update.
Please show:
rpm -q yum perl-version perl-Pod-Escapes kdevelop-libs
(or package-cleanup --dupes if yum-utils are installed)
Somehow I think you may have duplicate packages installed.
Some oddities in your yum output:
> ---> Package perl-version.i386 3:0.74-30.fc9 set to be updated
> --> Processing Dependency: perl = 4:5.10.0-22.fc9 for package: perl-version
> ---> Package perl-Pod-Escapes.i386 1:1.04-30.fc9 set to be updated
> --> Processing Dependency: perl = 4:5.10.0-22.fc9 for package:
> perl-Pod-Escapes
These two make no sense as the new "perl-version" and "perl-Pod-Escapes"
require the new "perl = 4:5.10.0-30.fc9" (note the release 30) and not the
older installed one (22). These packages are built from the same source
package. They belong to eachother. The dependency on the old 22.fc9
release does not come from the updated packages.
The same happens to several of your Perl packages. Please show
that you don't have multiple releases of those packages installed.
> ---> Package kdevelop.i386 9:3.5.2-2.fc9 set to be updated
> --> Processing Dependency: kdevelop = 9:3.5.2-1.fc9 for package:
> kdevelop-libs
Same here. The new kdevelop (release 2.fc9) is seen, but an
installed old kdevelop-libs requires the old kdevelop although
there is a new kdevelop-libs (release 2.fc9). "rpm -q kdevelop-libs"
must not return two packages.
There are tools to help with duplicates ("package-cleanup --cleandupes")
or incomplete transactions ("yum-complete-transaction"). Also make
sure you've got the latest Yum ("yum -y update yum").
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Re: yum problem installing php-devel
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:52:56 +0530, Amit Rana wrote: > Hi, > I am trying to install yum with following command and it stops > everything giving libssl and libcrypto errors > > yum install php-devel > > Dependencies Resolved > > = > Package Arch Version RepositorySize > = > Installing: > php-devel i386 5.2.6-2.fc7 updates 549 k > Updating: > php i386 5.2.6-2.fc7 updates 1.2 M > php-cli i386 5.2.6-2.fc7 updates 2.4 M > php-common i386 5.2.6-2.fc7 updates 226 k > php-gd i386 5.2.6-2.fc7 updates 111 k > php-mbstringi386 5.2.6-2.fc7 updates 1.1 M > php-mysql i386 5.2.6-2.fc7 updates78 k > php-pdo i386 5.2.6-2.fc7 updates61 k > php-xml i386 5.2.6-2.fc7 updates96 k > Installing for dependencies: > openssl i386 0.9.8b-17.fc8fedora1.4 M > > rpm -qa | grep openssl > openssl-devel-0.9.8g-6.fc9.i386 > openssl-0.9.8g-6.fc9.i686 Uh? What Fedora release is this? You show "fc7" updates, "fc8" updates and you have "fc9" packages installed already. What the heck are you doing there? ;) > So I already have openssl installed but still yum fails giving following > errors: > > Running rpm_check_debug > ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve: > libcrypto.so.7 is needed by (installed) mysql-administrator-5.0r12-5.fc9.i386 It can't be said often enough, what is installed already does not matter if there are updates/upgrades. Only the latest package release are looked at. And you run a weird mix of Fedora 7/8/9. Clean up the mess, then let's try again. > How can I resolve this? Why does it need to install an old version of > openssl when new is already there? Because there may be dependencies on specific library SONAME versions, such as libcrypto.so.6 and not libcrypto.so.7 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Package Updater NetworkManager Issue
On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 19:40 -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote: > I experienced an issue with one package supplied by the package > manager. The NetworkManager package would not install due to unresolved > dependencies. > > I tried to use yum directly. It turns out that there is one package > that is not available. How can I resolve this issue? > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum update > Setting up Update Process > Resolving Dependencies > --> Running transaction check > --> Processing Dependency: NetworkManager-glib = > 1:0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3370.fc8 for package: NetworkManager > ---> Package NetworkManager-glib.x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 set to > be updated > ---> Package NetworkManager-gnome.x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 set > to be updated > ---> Package NetworkManager-glib.i386 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 set to > be updated > ---> Package NetworkManager.x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 set to be > updated > --> Running transaction check > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > > Dependencies Resolved > > = > Package Arch Version RepositorySize > = > Updating: > NetworkManager x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 > updates 787 k > NetworkManager-glib x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 > updates 131 k > NetworkManager-glib i386 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 > updates 130 k > NetworkManager-gnomex86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 > updates 336 k > Transaction Summary > = > Install 0 Package(s) > Update 4 Package(s) > Remove 0 Package(s) > > Total download size: 1.4 M > Is this ok [y/N]: y > Downloading Packages: > Running rpm_check_debug > ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve: > Package NetworkManager needs NetworkManager-glib = > 1:0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3370.fc8, this is not available. > Package NetworkManager needs NetworkManager-glib = > 1:0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3370.fc8, this is not available. > Complete! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# > Same problem here but only on one of two "very similar" F8 machines My preferred solution was yum remove NetworkManager* but this takes out evolution for some reason!! yum --exclude NetworkManager* update was the best I could do to get most things updated Could not find out why one machine updated Ok and the other doesn't John -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Package Updater NetworkManager Issue
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:40:55 -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote: > I experienced an issue with one package supplied by the package > manager. The NetworkManager package would not install due to unresolved > dependencies. > Updating: > NetworkManager x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 > updates 787 k > NetworkManager-glib x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 > updates 131 k > NetworkManager-glib i386 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 > updates 130 k > NetworkManager-gnomex86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 > Package NetworkManager needs NetworkManager-glib = > 1:0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3370.fc8, this is not available. Multi-lib package breakage. NetworkManager.i386 is no longer made available for x86_64. Does rpm -e NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3370.fc8 fix it for you? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Cant use Crystal Eye webcam on my Acer Laptop with Fedora 9
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Antonio M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/7/10 Rohan Kulkarni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Antonio M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> 2008/7/7 Rohan Kulkarni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Antonio M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/7/7 Antonio M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> 2008/7/6 Ric Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 21:02 +0530, Rohan Kulkarni wrote: I installed kernel-devel and the finally installed the linux-uvc driver :) but still the webcam is not working :( >>> >>> Please don't top post. It screws up the reading of the progression of >>> the problem and responses. If you've read other posts, you may note that >>> everyone else will respond at the bottom. It's easier on the next guy >>> with the same problem who google searches for answers. Thanx, Ric >>> -- >>> >>> My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: >>> "There are two Great Sins in the world... >>> ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. >>> Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. >>> Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ >>> http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar >>> https://oar.dev.java.net/ >>> Verizon Cell # 336-254-1339 >>> - >>> >>> -- >>> fedora-list mailing list >>> fedora-list@redhat.com >>> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list >>> >> >> I am back to my F9 system, and it is pratically a standard F9 with no >> additional drivers >> My Browser Hardware sees the webcam as SuYin Acer CristallEye webcam >> with uvcvideo driver. >> This is the complete output of my lsmod command >> >> /sbin/lsmod >> Module Size Used by >> bridge 46104 0 >> bnep 14592 2 >> rfcomm 34576 4 >> l2cap 22272 16 bnep,rfcomm >> bluetooth 47588 5 bnep,rfcomm,l2cap >> autofs420356 2 >> fuse 41116 5 >> sunrpc151412 3 >> cpufreq_ondemand 10124 1 >> acpi_cpufreq 11532 1 >> loop 16772 0 >> dm_multipath 18056 0 >> ipv6 221660 33 >> snd_hda_intel 336928 6 >> snd_seq_dummy 6660 0 >> arc45760 2 >> tg3 103812 0 >> snd_seq_oss30364 0 >> snd_seq_midi_event 9600 1 snd_seq_oss >> iTCO_wdt 13476 0 >> snd_seq48448 5 >> snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event >> snd_seq_device 10124 3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq >> snd_pcm_oss42496 0 >> snd_mixer_oss 16768 2 snd_pcm_oss >> snd_pcm67076 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss >> firewire_ohci 21636 0 >> snd_timer 21640 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm >> snd_page_alloc 11400 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm >> snd_hwdep 10500 1 snd_hda_intel >> i915 85636 2 >> video 20368 0 >> output 6656 1 video >> i2c_i801 11920 0 >> sdhci 16908 0 >> uvcvideo 49416 0 >> compat_ioctl32 5120 1 uvcvideo >> videodev 30208 1 uvcvideo >> battery14084 0 >> firewire_core 34464 1 firewire_ohci >> ac 8068 0 >> button 1 0 >> acer_wmi 12596 0 >> wmi 9640 1 acer_wmi >> ecb 6528 2 >> crypto_blkcipher 17924 1 ecb >> ricoh_mmc 7552 0 >> iTCO_vendor_support 6916 1 iTCO_wdt >> iwl3945 146140 0 >> mac80211 181992 1 iwl3945 >> cfg80211 25096 2 iwl3945,mac80211 >> snd48312 19 >> snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep >> soundcore 9288 2 snd >> drm 145508 3 i915 >> i2c_algo_bit8964 1 i915 >> mmc_core 40604 1 sdhci >> i2c_core 20628 4 i915,i2c_i801,drm,i2c_algo_bit >> v4l1_compat15364 2 uvcvideo,videodev >> pcspkr 6272 0 >> joydev 12608 0 >> crc_itu_t 5760 1 firewire_core >> sg 31028 0 >> sr_mod 17064 0 >> cdrom 32796 1 sr_mod >> ahci 26760 2 >> ata_piix
Re: Package Updater NetworkManager Issue
On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 11:02 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:40:55 -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote: > > > I experienced an issue with one package supplied by the package > > manager. The NetworkManager package would not install due to unresolved > > dependencies. > > > Updating: > > NetworkManager x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 > > updates 787 k > > NetworkManager-glib x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 > > updates 131 k > > NetworkManager-glib i386 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 > > updates 130 k > > NetworkManager-gnomex86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 > > > Package NetworkManager needs NetworkManager-glib = > > 1:0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3370.fc8, this is not available. > > Multi-lib package breakage. NetworkManager.i386 is no longer made > available for x86_64. Does > > rpm -e NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3370.fc8 > > fix it for you? > The yum version of above fixes it - thanks I can live without i386 version of evo ! John [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum remove NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3370.fc8.i386 Loading "stablemirror" plugin Setting up Remove Process stablemirror: the easily edited stablemirror file is "/var/cache/yum/stablemirrors" ... Erasing : evolution# [1/3] Erasing : NetworkManager-glib # [2/3] Erasing : NetworkManager # [3/3] Removed: NetworkManager.i386 1:0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3370.fc8 Dependency Removed: NetworkManager-glib.i386 1:0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3370.fc8 evolution.i386 0:2.12.3-5.fc8 Complete! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum update Loading "stablemirror" plugin stablemirror: the easily edited stablemirror file is "/var/cache/yum/stablemirrors" Updating: NetworkManager x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 updates 787 k NetworkManager-glib x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 updates 131 k NetworkManager-gnomex86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 updates 336 k ... Updated: NetworkManager.x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 NetworkManager-glib.x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 NetworkManager-gnome.x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 Complete! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE hosed - no display
On Friday 11 July 2008 09:42, Anne Wilson wrote: > This morning my F9 box gets to the login screen, then I get a white box on > a black background. The white box disappears and I'm left with a black > screen. It seems that things carry on in the background, as, after a while, > I get the chimes that signal that the system is ready to go. > > I've checked that it isn't the kernel that's the problem - it happens on > both kernels. The session menu at login doesn't show any other dm, so I > thought I must have forgotten to install an extra one. I went into > failsafe mode and first tried for updates, to be told that there are none. > I then tried to install gnome-desktop, figuring that it would pick up the > necessaries from there. It says that gnome-desktop is already installed. > > At this point I'm at a loss to know what's next. Advice? > /var/log/messages tells me that pulseaudio failed X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly (presumably the important one) restorecond: Will not restore a file with more than one hard link (/etc/resolv.conf) Invalid argument /etc/resolv.conf contains the IP addresses of my ISP's two nameservers. There's no clue as to why the X server terminated. System-config-display appears to be using correct settings. Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
[OT?] after moving to f9, alpine lists sender on "sent" msgs
admittedly, this is an alpine topic, but i'm guessing someone out there has already run across this. after moving someone else's system from f8 to f9 and restoring that user's personal mail (install alpine; restore mbox, mail/, .pinerc, .fetchmailrc, etc), looking at the "sent-mail" folder shows that user (call her "fred") as both the sender and recipient on all newly-sent mail msgs, as in: ... lots of sent msgs ... ... ... To: barney ... ... To: wilma ... ... fred ...< -- after f9 re-install ... fred ... ... fred ... it's obviously useful to be able to scan the sent-mail folder and see the *recipient* listed, so why -- after that switch to f9 -- does alpine suddenly switch to listing the (utterly redundant) *sender*? and, more curiously, why would it do that in the middle of the folder display? is there an option for this? i'm looking for one, and i haven't seen it yet. thanks. rday -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: [OT?] after moving to f9, alpine lists sender on "sent" msgs
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > admittedly, this is an alpine topic, but i'm guessing someone out > there has already run across this. after moving someone else's > system from f8 to f9 and restoring that user's personal mail > (install alpine; restore mbox, mail/, .pinerc, .fetchmailrc, etc), > looking at the "sent-mail" folder shows that user (call her "fred") > as both the sender and recipient on all newly-sent mail msgs, as in: > > ... lots of sent msgs ... > ... > ... To: barney ... > ... To: wilma ... > ... fred ...< -- after f9 re-install > ... fred ... > ... fred ... > > it's obviously useful to be able to scan the sent-mail folder and > see the *recipient* listed, so why -- after that switch to f9 -- > does alpine suddenly switch to listing the (utterly redundant) > *sender*? and, more curiously, why would it do that in the middle of > the folder display? is there an option for this? i'm looking for > one, and i haven't seen it yet. thanks. > > rday whoops, never mind, things are back to normal -- the problem was that the outgoing SMTP wasn't configured properly so those msgs eventually came back as undeliverable which is why they showed up that way. my bad. carry on. rday -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9 putting email into some sort of searchable db?
On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 12:46 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > Is it possible for me to put all my emails from my desktop box into some > sort of db\ thing. > > Which I could also then search from the laptop by ssh if away, > (centos5x server). If you use a mail client, or a server, where the storage uses maildir, then each message is a file. That lends itself well to using tools that index files on your hard drive. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE hosed - no display
Anne Wilson wrote: At this point I'm at a loss to know what's next. Advice? /var/log/messages tells me that pulseaudio failed X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly (presumably the important one) restorecond: Will not restore a file with more than one hard link (/etc/resolv.conf) Invalid argument /etc/resolv.conf contains the IP addresses of my ISP's two nameservers. There's no clue as to why the X server terminated. System-config-display appears to be using correct settings. What happens if you boot to run level 3, login, and issue a startx? Also, not clear from the above if restorecond is complaining about /etc/resolv.conf or what "(/etc/resolv.conf) Invalid argument" means. You could determine the inode if resolv.conf and check to see how many hardlinks for it exist. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE hosed - no display
On Friday 11 July 2008 10:58, Ed Greshko wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > >> At this point I'm at a loss to know what's next. Advice? > > > > /var/log/messages tells me that > > > > pulseaudio failed > > X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly (presumably the important > > one) > > > > restorecond: Will not restore a file with more than one hard link > > (/etc/resolv.conf) Invalid argument > > > > /etc/resolv.conf contains the IP addresses of my ISP's two nameservers. > > > > There's no clue as to why the X server terminated. > > > > System-config-display appears to be using correct settings. > > What happens if you boot to run level 3, login, and issue a startx? > It tells me that the server is already active. I have removed the lockfile, but it made no difference. > Also, not clear from the above if restorecond is complaining about > /etc/resolv.conf or what "(/etc/resolv.conf) Invalid argument" means. > > You could determine the inode if resolv.conf and check to see how many > hardlinks for it exist. I haven't a clue what this is talking about, but since I have selinux in permissive mode it shouldn't be interfering with things, I think/hope. I'm leaving this one alone until I get X sorted out. Just in case, I renamed xorg.conf, so that F9 could do its own thing. That didn't make any difference, either. Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE hosed - no display
On Friday 11 July 2008 10:33, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Friday 11 July 2008 09:42, Anne Wilson wrote: > > This morning my F9 box gets to the login screen, then I get a white box > > on a black background. The white box disappears and I'm left with a > > black screen. It seems that things carry on in the background, as, after > > a while, I get the chimes that signal that the system is ready to go. > > > > I've checked that it isn't the kernel that's the problem - it happens on > > both kernels. The session menu at login doesn't show any other dm, so I > > thought I must have forgotten to install an extra one. I went into > > failsafe mode and first tried for updates, to be told that there are > > none. I then tried to install gnome-desktop, figuring that it would pick > > up the necessaries from there. It says that gnome-desktop is already > > installed. > > > > At this point I'm at a loss to know what's next. Advice? > > /var/log/messages tells me that > > pulseaudio failed > X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly (presumably the important > one) > > restorecond: Will not restore a file with more than one hard link > (/etc/resolv.conf) Invalid argument > > /etc/resolv.conf contains the IP addresses of my ISP's two nameservers. > > There's no clue as to why the X server terminated. > > System-config-display appears to be using correct settings. > I've just got the logwatch report for that box. Among yesterday's updates were xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.3.2-2.fc9.i386 xorg-x11-server-common-1.4.99.905-1.20080701.fc9.i386 xorg-x11-drv-vesa-2.0.0-1.fc9.i386 glx-utils-7.1-0.37.fc9.i386 xorg-x11-drv-glint-1.2.1-1.fc9.i386 xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.4.99.905-1.20080701.fc9.i386 xorg-x11-drv-nv-2.1.10-1.fc9.i386 xorg-x11-utils-7.4-1.fc9.i386 Presumably the problem is somewhere here. Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
F9 Xen QEMU Windows XP install fails multiple cores
Hi System Intel Quad Core kernel 2.6.25.9-76.fc9.x86_64 fully updated. I have been playing around with install a virtual copy of Windows Xp Pro under Xen Qemu and have found if I specify more than one virtual core to the Windows XP instance the install fails! With 2 virtual cores specified in the qemu wizard for setting up a new virtual instance the install of Windows XP Pro and and locks up during the "Preparing to Install", occasionally it gets to "Installing Devices" then hangs, but never gets further. The install of Windows XP Pro works if I only specify 1 virtual core. I this expected !! --Andyg0043 Thanks to the F9 developers -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE hosed - no display
Anne Wilson wrote: >> > I've just got the logwatch report for that box. Among yesterday's updates > were > > xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.3.2-2.fc9.i386 > xorg-x11-server-common-1.4.99.905-1.20080701.fc9.i386 > xorg-x11-drv-vesa-2.0.0-1.fc9.i386 > glx-utils-7.1-0.37.fc9.i386 > xorg-x11-drv-glint-1.2.1-1.fc9.i386 > xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.4.99.905-1.20080701.fc9.i386 > xorg-x11-drv-nv-2.1.10-1.fc9.i386 > xorg-x11-utils-7.4-1.fc9.i386 > > Presumably the problem is somewhere here. Is there anything of interest in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
re: tcpdump
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2008 03:38 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: fedora-list Digest, Vol 53, Issue 75 Message: 5 Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:39:38 -0500 From: Kevin Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: tcpdump To: For users of Fedora Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I want to look at all the traffic coming to my web browser (192.168.5.191) > (tomcat on port 80) using tcpdump. > > If I say tcpdump port 80 > > that will get 80 coming and going. Also if I say > tcpdump dst port 80 > I will still get any traffic I have to other web sites. > > I thought tcpdump (dst port 80) and (dst host 192.168.5.191) > would work but that does not seem to get anything. I went to > 192.168.5.191/~chamberl from another machine, got my web page > but nothing in the tcp dump. > > What is the correct way to do this (all incoming to my web browser)? > Theoretically besdies 192.168.5.191 I would also like 127.0.0.1 > > > Are you listening on the correct device? I just tried: tcpdump dst port 22 and dst host 10.10.20.20 and didn't get anything but when I added the "-i " that 10.10.20.20 is bound to then I got the correct information. Kevin == Actually it doesn't really matter I think. On my machine it doesn't work but it works fine on some other ones. I want to monitor a different machine anyway. Here is a tcpdump/bash question though. (The following works if I don't use the port filter stuff). I do something like this (I abbreviate it hwere for space): while : do mytotlen=0 nowdate=$(date +"%s") ((stopdate=nowdate+60)) tcpdump -nne -i eth0 '(dst port 80)' and '(dst host 10.0.0.10)' | while [ $(date +"%s") -lt $stopdate do tim="" # I leave out some names in this message # to save space. I actually read everything read -t4 tim ... length REST [ "$tim" != "" ] && ((mytotlen+=length)) done echo "Total TCP length in the last minute is $mytotlen" done The loop is executed fine (for debugging I print out the value of tim and length). Problem is, once the while loop is completed it locks up and never echoes the total tcp length. I think this is because the tcpdump is still running and blocking. I don't believe before the echo I could put something like pkill tcpdump. But what can I do to get this to work? (Actually there is another problem here too that mytotlen inside the loop is a local variable in a different scope than when I echo it but I solved this by inside the loop echoing it to a file, and then reading the file outside the loop, but that is irrelevant). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE hosed - no display
On Friday 11 July 2008 13:31, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > I've just got the logwatch report for that box. Among yesterday's > > updates were > > > > xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.3.2-2.fc9.i386 > > xorg-x11-server-common-1.4.99.905-1.20080701.fc9.i386 > > xorg-x11-drv-vesa-2.0.0-1.fc9.i386 > > glx-utils-7.1-0.37.fc9.i386 > > xorg-x11-drv-glint-1.2.1-1.fc9.i386 > > xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.4.99.905-1.20080701.fc9.i386 > > xorg-x11-drv-nv-2.1.10-1.fc9.i386 > > xorg-x11-utils-7.4-1.fc9.i386 > > > > Presumably the problem is somewhere here. > > Is there anything of interest in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? Nothing strange that I can see. Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
BIND patches versions for older Fedoras
I think we've all heard about the major vulnerability in DNS lately. My question is, how far back will the patched BIND versions go in Fedora? My problem is this: I have 2 systems that are DNS servers than cannot be upgraded past FC6 because of the problem with mkinitrd that is keeping my Qlogic FC driver from loading on boot. Therefore, I'm stuck until that gets resolved. I can definitely build the patched version from source if I must, but wanted to see if possibly someone is going to build one for FC6 and make it available on one of the repos. Also, what is the correct patched version RPM name so I know I'm getting the right one if I need to build it myself? -- Libenter homines id quod volunt credunt -- Caius Julius Caesar Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any suggestions for Really Annoying Alarms !!? -- [SOLVED]
1) install kalarm 2) build myself a "Bruno" script that uses crontab to 'shutdown' for those times when I just gotta go. Whilst I cannot test it right now (at work, others using my machine etc.) I suspect option 2) can also be achieved using also kalarm. When creating a new alarm under 'Special Actions' you can configure pre and post alarm commands to be run. cheers Chris -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any suggestions for Really Annoying Alarms !!? -- [SOLVED]
Chris Jones wrote: 1) install kalarm 2) build myself a "Bruno" script that uses crontab to 'shutdown' for those times when I just gotta go. Whilst I cannot test it right now (at work, others using my machine etc.) I suspect option 2) can also be achieved using also kalarm. When creating a new alarm under 'Special Actions' you can configure pre and post alarm commands to be run. Actually, its even easier than that. Just change the action type from text (i.e. pop message) to Command, and then run shutdown. Alternatively select File which I think allows scripts to be run, which can do whatever you want. No need to muck around with crontab, unless you want to. Chris -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
F9 Mount iso at boot up
Is there a method to mount an iso at boot time, for access to contents (no cd\dvd drives) Frank -- "Still Learning" skype: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
How Fedora sees previous (now deleted) disk partitions ?
Hello, my PC has three disks. Two of them where previously configured as RAID1+LVM which I removed. Using fdisk I created other partitions and already installed other distros (to test and try them). I already installed Debian and Gentoo and works fine (I have a single /boot partition shared by all distros via GRUB loader). My problem : now I'm trying to install Fedora-9 on a specific partition (simply like I did for the other distros) but the Fedora installer continues to see previous RAID1+LVM, not what is reflected by fdisk (and correctly grabbed by the other distros) My questions : Where does Fedora grab its partition tables ? How to modify / correct partitions if fdisk is not enough for Fedora ? Thanks, Bruno -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any suggestions for Really Annoying Alarms !!? -- [SOLVED]
Chris Jones wrote: 1) install kalarm 2) build myself a "Bruno" script that uses crontab to 'shutdown' for those times when I just gotta go. Whilst I cannot test it right now (at work, others using my machine etc.) I suspect option 2) can also be achieved using also kalarm. When creating a new alarm under 'Special Actions' you can configure pre and post alarm commands to be run. Actually, its even easier than that. Just change the action type from text (i.e. pop message) to Command, and then run shutdown. Alternatively select File which I think allows scripts to be run, which can do whatever you want. Have it email message to your cell phone or an sms gateway to it. That would be especially annoying if you have to pay to receive them. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Latest Xorg update breaks my GUI
I upgraded my system to the latest Xorg last night and after a reboot had a major problem. This box is an F9 box (An older HP with intel graphics) connected to an HP vf52 flatpanel monitor. On reboot, the arrow and 'Fedora wait circle' appeared on the screen, then my screen went black, the arrow returned, ad infinitum. I initially thought the upgrade had broken the setup, so I rebooted into RL 3 and resetup the desktop config. The card and monitor were detected correctly and the screen resolution was available and I selected it. (1024X768). Still, on reboot, same problem. X would start (presumably) and restart with no complete loading of the GUI. I've looked in Xorg's log file, but don't see any error messages that might clue me in. Can someone else shed some light on this? -- Libenter homines id quod volunt credunt -- Caius Julius Caesar Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Latest Xorg update breaks my GUI
2008/7/11 Mark Haney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I upgraded my system to the latest Xorg last night and after a reboot had a > major problem. This box is an F9 box (An older HP with intel graphics) > connected to an HP vf52 flatpanel monitor. > > On reboot, the arrow and 'Fedora wait circle' appeared on the screen, then > my screen went black, the arrow returned, ad infinitum. > > I initially thought the upgrade had broken the setup, so I rebooted into RL > 3 and resetup the desktop config. The card and monitor were detected > correctly and the screen resolution was available and I selected it. > (1024X768). Still, on reboot, same problem. X would start (presumably) and > restart with no complete loading of the GUI. I've looked in Xorg's log > file, but don't see any error messages that might clue me in. > > Can someone else shed some light on this? > > -- > Libenter homines id quod volunt credunt -- Caius Julius Caesar > > > Mark Haney > Sr. Systems Administrator > ERC Broadband > (828) 350-2415 > > Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > See my post dated July 7: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora And see Bugzilla Bug 454055: Latest updates prevent graphic login Wellcome onboard -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 Mount iso at boot up
> Is there a method to mount an iso at boot time, > for access to contents (no cd\dvd drives) You can just add a line to /etc/fstab: /path/to/iso.image /mount/pointautoloop 1 2 Works for me. -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II BBS telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org To be notified of updates to the web site, visit: https://www.bubbanfriends.org/mailman/listinfo/site-update or send a blank email message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Latest Xorg update breaks my GUI
Antonio M wrote: 2008/7/11 Mark Haney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I upgraded my system to the latest Xorg last night and after a reboot had a major problem. This box is an F9 box (An older HP with intel graphics) connected to an HP vf52 flatpanel monitor. On reboot, the arrow and 'Fedora wait circle' appeared on the screen, then my screen went black, the arrow returned, ad infinitum. I initially thought the upgrade had broken the setup, so I rebooted into RL 3 and resetup the desktop config. The card and monitor were detected correctly and the screen resolution was available and I selected it. (1024X768). Still, on reboot, same problem. X would start (presumably) and restart with no complete loading of the GUI. I've looked in Xorg's log file, but don't see any error messages that might clue me in. Can someone else shed some light on this? -- Libenter homines id quod volunt credunt -- Caius Julius Caesar Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list See my post dated July 7: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora And see Bugzilla Bug 454055: Latest updates prevent graphic login Wellcome onboard Antonio, I've not yet tried starting X from RL 3 yet, I just did everything from the CLI in level 3. I will however try that shortly. I'll also check the bug and add myself to it, since I don't want to have to explain to my kids how to change runlevels just yet. -- Libenter homines id quod volunt credunt -- Caius Julius Caesar Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Latest Xorg update breaks my GUI
2008/7/11 Mark Haney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Antonio M wrote: >> >> 2008/7/11 Mark Haney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> >>> I upgraded my system to the latest Xorg last night and after a reboot had >>> a >>> major problem. This box is an F9 box (An older HP with intel graphics) >>> connected to an HP vf52 flatpanel monitor. >>> >>> On reboot, the arrow and 'Fedora wait circle' appeared on the screen, >>> then >>> my screen went black, the arrow returned, ad infinitum. >>> >>> I initially thought the upgrade had broken the setup, so I rebooted into >>> RL >>> 3 and resetup the desktop config. The card and monitor were detected >>> correctly and the screen resolution was available and I selected it. >>> (1024X768). Still, on reboot, same problem. X would start (presumably) >>> and >>> restart with no complete loading of the GUI. I've looked in Xorg's log >>> file, but don't see any error messages that might clue me in. >>> >>> Can someone else shed some light on this? >>> >>> -- >>> Libenter homines id quod volunt credunt -- Caius Julius Caesar >>> >>> >>> Mark Haney >>> Sr. Systems Administrator >>> ERC Broadband >>> (828) 350-2415 >>> >>> Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support >>> >>> -- >>> fedora-list mailing list >>> fedora-list@redhat.com >>> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list >>> >> >> See my post dated July 7: Latest updates break graphic start of Fedora >> And see Bugzilla Bug 454055: Latest updates prevent graphic login >> >> Wellcome onboard > > Antonio, I've not yet tried starting X from RL 3 yet, I just did everything > from the CLI in level 3. I will however try that shortly. I'll also check > the bug and add myself to it, since I don't want to have to explain to my > kids how to change runlevels just yet. > > > -- > Libenter homines id quod volunt credunt -- Caius Julius Caesar > > > Mark Haney > Sr. Systems Administrator > ERC Broadband > (828) 350-2415 > > Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > The solution is very easy: just downgrade to previous xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.2.1-24.fc9.i386 that you can can download from original F9 repo (the basic I mean). -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Latest Xorg update breaks my GUI
Antonio M wrote: 2008/7/11 Mark Haney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: The solution is very easy: just downgrade to previous xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.2.1-24.fc9.i386 that you can can download from original F9 repo (the basic I mean). I take it that this is the culprit: xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.3.2-2.fc9.i386 -- Libenter homines id quod volunt credunt -- Caius Julius Caesar Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Latest Xorg update breaks my GUI
2008/7/11 Mark Haney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Antonio M wrote: >> >> 2008/7/11 Mark Haney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >> The solution is very easy: just downgrade to previous >> xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.2.1-24.fc9.i386 that you can can download from >> original F9 repo (the basic I mean). >> >> > I take it that this is the culprit: > > xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.3.2-2.fc9.i386 > > > -- > Libenter homines id quod volunt credunt -- Caius Julius Caesar > > > Mark Haney > Sr. Systems Administrator > ERC Broadband > (828) 350-2415 > > Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > IMHO yes -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Latest Xorg update breaks my GUI
Mark Haney wrote: I upgraded my system to the latest Xorg last night and after a reboot had a major problem. This box is an F9 box (An older HP with intel graphics) connected to an HP vf52 flatpanel monitor. I had the same problem. It turned out that somehow the files in /usr/lib64/dri had vanished (this is an x86_64 system). Reinstalling mesa-dri-drivers fixed the problem. Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.crc.dk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Padlock problems
I apologize if this has been asked before but I found very little information when I searched using google. I installed F9 on my t60p and encrypted the drive. Now when my laptop starts up I see: Padlock: VIA Padlock not detected Padlock: VIA Padlock Hash Engine not detected It then prompts me for me LUKS password and works just fine. I am just wondering what the Padlock errors are from and how I can resolve them. I did find this post: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/943735 which seems to say there is a patch or one will be released. Can anyone shed some light on this issue and help me resolve it? TIA, Greg Sieranski -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE hosed - no display
On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 11:57 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Friday 11 July 2008 10:58, Ed Greshko wrote: > > Anne Wilson wrote: > > >> At this point I'm at a loss to know what's next. Advice? > > > > > > /var/log/messages tells me that > > > > > > pulseaudio failed > > > X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly (presumably the important > > > one) > > > > > > restorecond: Will not restore a file with more than one hard link > > > (/etc/resolv.conf) Invalid argument > > > > > > /etc/resolv.conf contains the IP addresses of my ISP's two nameservers. > > > > > > There's no clue as to why the X server terminated. > > > > > > System-config-display appears to be using correct settings. > > > > What happens if you boot to run level 3, login, and issue a startx? > > > It tells me that the server is already active. I have removed the lockfile, > but it made no difference. > > > Also, not clear from the above if restorecond is complaining about > > /etc/resolv.conf or what "(/etc/resolv.conf) Invalid argument" means. > > > > You could determine the inode if resolv.conf and check to see how many > > hardlinks for it exist. > > I haven't a clue what this is talking about, but since I have selinux in > permissive mode it shouldn't be interfering with things, I think/hope. I'm > leaving this one alone until I get X sorted out. > > Just in case, I renamed xorg.conf, so that F9 could do its own thing. That > didn't make any difference, either. > > Anne > I had the same problem a day or two ago when I updated. I thought it might have been cause of my computer freezing up during the the update which might have been part of it. Anyway once I got a driver back I had the same issue. I could login to kde as root but not user. I tracked it down to the .kde/share/config directory but not sure which file in it. What I did was delete my user account after backing it up then recreated it which let me into kde again. I then logged back in to a terminal and renamed the newer .kde dir brought the old one back in and rsynced the new .kde/share/config directory back into it and got most of my kde settings back. Hope this helps you some Don -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: Various /var/log/messages errors....
Dan Thurman wrote, On 07/10/2008 07:51 PM: Todd Denniston wrote: Dan Thurman wrote, On 07/10/2008 10:45 AM > Ha. No, no, not a knacker HD. It's a brand new SATA 750GB HD. I am > installing > "everything" for fun and then backtracking out any conflicts. What I > found is very > interesting - LOTS of pitfalls and traps. Sorta like wading into a > dungeon and dragons > game. (Remember that old text-based-only game?) > Have you picked _one_ of rsyslog|ntsyslog and `rpm -e theOtherOne`? several daemons did not seem to work right at all until we did. I picked rsyslog. You mean syslog-ng? I ran into that trap a long time ago. That's one of `em! and as for the ifd handlers for pcsc, you only want to have ccid and the one that someone put as a dependency of pcscd. cyberjack seems to hyjack the ifd connections until pcscd has no chance of working. Hm. I have all of pcsc selected and I also have ccid selected. Can you explain what I need to disable/choose between the two? I attempted to remove all `smart card' programs until I realized how entrenched it seems - yum wants to remove alot of files I did not want removed so I left it alone. There is one related to ifd and that is ifd-egate and I do not have that selected. for some reason they made the pcsc rpm depend on ifd-egate even though it is for ONE type of reader only, CCID controls a lot of readers and I dare say MOST recent readers. All the other ifd packages (other than egate and CCID) should be removed (not installed) if you don't know you need them, I have seen instances of pcscd taking 100% cpu with some of the others [cyberjack] installed but unused. as far as why smart card is entrenched... well certain organizations and companies are REQUIRING PKI keys on self destroying/locking media for security reasons, because having only one thing that a user knows (password) between the bad guys and your data just is NOT good enough any more. an `rpm -verify` on the package system-config-services comes in and any it depends on may be in order. ok, tried it and rpm returns nothing. Must be ok. Most likely, but sanity checks are most times a good thing to do when you know you are operating in the box wall or on the other side of it, and things seem a bit strange. :) -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Padlock problems
On Friday 11 July 2008 14:08, Sieranski, Greg wrote: > I apologize if this has been asked before but I found very little > information when I searched using google. I installed F9 on my t60p and > encrypted the drive. Now when my laptop starts up I see: > Padlock: VIA Padlock not detected > Padlock: VIA Padlock Hash Engine not detected > > It then prompts me for me LUKS password and works just fine. I am just > wondering what the Padlock errors are from and how I can resolve them. > I confirm that I have seen those message ever since rawhide pre-F9 was installed. > I did find this post: > http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/943735 > which seems to say there is a patch or one will be released. Can anyone > shed some light on this issue and help me resolve it? > The last message in that thread was only 3 days ago, so I presume it is still being worked on. Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE hosed - no display
Anne Wilson wrote: > This morning my F9 box gets to the login screen, then I get a white box on > a > black background. The white box disappears and I'm left with a black > screen. It seems that things carry on in the background, as, after a > while, I get the chimes that signal that the system is ready to go. > > I've checked that it isn't the kernel that's the problem - it happens on > both > kernels. The session menu at login doesn't show any other dm, so I > thought I > must have forgotten to install an extra one. I went into failsafe mode > and > first tried for updates, to be told that there are none. I then tried to > install gnome-desktop, figuring that it would pick up the necessaries from > there. It says that gnome-desktop is already installed. > > At this point I'm at a loss to know what's next. Advice? One brute force method is to reset your prefs mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.BAK and then (potentially) start restoring bits of it until you're back where you want to be or you retrigger the bug, whichever comes first. -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: tcpdump
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2008 03:38 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: fedora-list Digest, Vol 53, Issue 75 Message: 5 Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:39:38 -0500 From: Kevin Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: tcpdump To: For users of Fedora Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to look at all the traffic coming to my web browser (192.168.5.191) (tomcat on port 80) using tcpdump. If I say tcpdump port 80 that will get 80 coming and going. Also if I say tcpdump dst port 80 I will still get any traffic I have to other web sites. I thought tcpdump (dst port 80) and (dst host 192.168.5.191) would work but that does not seem to get anything. I went to 192.168.5.191/~chamberl from another machine, got my web page but nothing in the tcp dump. What is the correct way to do this (all incoming to my web browser)? Theoretically besdies 192.168.5.191 I would also like 127.0.0.1 Are you listening on the correct device? I just tried: tcpdump dst port 22 and dst host 10.10.20.20 and didn't get anything but when I added the "-i " that 10.10.20.20 is bound to then I got the correct information. Kevin == Actually it doesn't really matter I think. On my machine it doesn't work but it works fine on some other ones. I want to monitor a different machine anyway. Here is a tcpdump/bash question though. (The following works if I don't use the port filter stuff). I do something like this (I abbreviate it hwere for space): while : do mytotlen=0 nowdate=$(date +"%s") ((stopdate=nowdate+60)) tcpdump -nne -i eth0 '(dst port 80)' and '(dst host 10.0.0.10)' | while [ $(date +"%s") -lt $stopdate do tim="" # I leave out some names in this message # to save space. I actually read everything read -t4 tim ... length REST [ "$tim" != "" ] && ((mytotlen+=length)) done echo "Total TCP length in the last minute is $mytotlen" done The loop is executed fine (for debugging I print out the value of tim and length). Problem is, once the while loop is completed it locks up and never echoes the total tcp length. I think this is because the tcpdump is still running and blocking. I don't believe before the echo I could put something like pkill tcpdump. But what can I do to get this to work? (Actually there is another problem here too that mytotlen inside the loop is a local variable in a different scope than when I echo it but I solved this by inside the loop echoing it to a file, and then reading the file outside the loop, but that is irrelevant). Questions: does the tcpdump arguments for dst port and dst host need to be enclosed in '()'? I did it without those and it worked ok for me. Are you trying to monitor machine A from machine B? This will only work if both machine A and machine B are on a hub or have linked ethernet ports with a crossover cable, not a switch (unless you are doing some port mirroring). As to the loop, you need to close the while statement, and then how about this: tcpdump -nne -i eth0 '(dst port 80)' and '(dst host 10.0.0.10)' | while [ $(date +"%s") -lt $stopdate ] do tim="" # I leave out some names in this message # to save space. I actually read everything read -t4 tim ... length REST [ "$tim" != "" ] && ((mytotlen+=length)) if [ $(date +"%s") -ge $stopdate ] ; then echo "Total TCP length in the last minute is $mytotlen" fi done -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Any suggestions for Really Annoying Alarms !!? -- [SOLVED]
Les Mikesell wrote: Have it email message to your cell phone or an sms gateway to it. That would be especially annoying if you have to pay to receive them. All one really needs is to have any alarm system play a message of reminder from my wife...now that is really annoying. Oh, wait, maybe it is only annoying to me -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE hosed - no display
Anne Wilson wrote: What happens if you boot to run level 3, login, and issue a startx? It tells me that the server is already active. I have removed the lockfile, but it made no difference. Now that is bizarre. Going to level 3 should not start anything related to X or any window managers. Also, not clear from the above if restorecond is complaining about /etc/resolv.conf or what "(/etc/resolv.conf) Invalid argument" means. You could determine the inode if resolv.conf and check to see how many hardlinks for it exist. I haven't a clue what this is talking about, but since I have selinux in permissive mode it shouldn't be interfering with things, I think/hope. I'm leaving this one alone until I get X sorted out. OK... Not sure how, or if, the resolv.conf is related to your display issue. Just in case, I renamed xorg.conf, so that F9 could do its own thing. That didn't make any difference, either. Hum. Stumped at the moment. May have to sleep on it...and hope someone comes to your aid. :-) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 Mount iso at boot up
On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 08:33 -0400, Mike Burger wrote: > > Is there a method to mount an iso at boot time, > > for access to contents (no cd\dvd drives) > > You can just add a line to /etc/fstab: > > /path/to/iso.image /mount/pointautoloop 1 2 > > Works for me. > Getting a permission denied on that. tried as both user and root owning the various isos and mounts Frank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE hosed - no display
2008/7/11 Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Anne Wilson wrote: > >> This morning my F9 box gets to the login screen, then I get a white box on >> a >> black background. The white box disappears and I'm left with a black >> screen. It seems that things carry on in the background, as, after a >> while, I get the chimes that signal that the system is ready to go. >> >> I've checked that it isn't the kernel that's the problem - it happens on >> both >> kernels. The session menu at login doesn't show any other dm, so I >> thought I >> must have forgotten to install an extra one. I went into failsafe mode >> and >> first tried for updates, to be told that there are none. I then tried to >> install gnome-desktop, figuring that it would pick up the necessaries from >> there. It says that gnome-desktop is already installed. >> >> At this point I'm at a loss to know what's next. Advice? > > One brute force method is to reset your prefs > mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.BAK > and then (potentially) start restoring bits of it until you're back where > you want to be or you retrigger the bug, whichever comes first. > > -- Rex > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > I would suggest to downgrade the i810 driver rpm...See other post -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE hosed - no display
On Friday 11 July 2008 14:27, Donald Reader wrote: > I had the same problem a day or two ago when I updated. I thought > it might have been cause of my computer freezing up during the > the update which might have been part of it. Anyway once I got a > driver back I had the same issue. I could login to kde as root but > not user. I tracked it down to the .kde/share/config directory but > not sure which file in it. What I did was delete my user account after > backing it up then recreated it which let me into kde again. I then > logged back in to a terminal and renamed the newer .kde dir brought the > old one back in and rsynced the new .kde/share/config directory back > into it and got most of my kde settings back. > Hope this helps you some It certainly does. It had never occurred to me to log in as root, but you are quite correct, kde starts for root. I've therefore renamed ~/.kde and am back in to kde desktop. I've added this information to bug #454055, since it is a surprise complication. Nothing concerned with kde was involved in that update, yet something seems to have messed the desktop. Most odd. Thanks for the help. Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE hosed - no display
On Friday 11 July 2008 14:48, Rex Dieter wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > This morning my F9 box gets to the login screen, then I get a white box > > on a > > black background. The white box disappears and I'm left with a black > > screen. It seems that things carry on in the background, as, after a > > while, I get the chimes that signal that the system is ready to go. > > > > I've checked that it isn't the kernel that's the problem - it happens on > > both > > kernels. The session menu at login doesn't show any other dm, so I > > thought I > > must have forgotten to install an extra one. I went into failsafe mode > > and > > first tried for updates, to be told that there are none. I then tried to > > install gnome-desktop, figuring that it would pick up the necessaries > > from there. It says that gnome-desktop is already installed. > > > > At this point I'm at a loss to know what's next. Advice? > > One brute force method is to reset your prefs > mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.BAK > and then (potentially) start restoring bits of it until you're back where > you want to be or you retrigger the bug, whichever comes first. > Thanks, Rex. That's exactly what I have done (not done the restores yet, though). It begs the question of how this happened, though. It does appear to be related to the updates that I did yesterday, and apparently I'm not the only one to have experienced it. Bug #454055 reporter seems to think that it is related to xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.3.2-2.fc9.i386. I've added my bit, in the hope that it brings light to the devs/packagers :-) Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE hosed - no display
On Friday 11 July 2008 15:01, Antonio M wrote: > I would suggest to downgrade the i810 driver rpm...See other post Not necessary Antonio. Something, as yet unknown, has corrupted a kde file. Renaming ~/.kde allow you back in. It's then a matter of restoring the necessary files and hoping that you don't run into the same problem again. If I do identify the corrupt file I'll report it here. Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
BIND patches versions for older Fedoras -- Update
Also, what is the correct patched version RPM name so I know I'm getting the right one if I need to build it myself? Since I fully expect that there will not be a build for BIND for versions older than F8, I've built an RPM of bind-9.5.0-33.P1 for FC6 (i386 for now) if anyone is interested, I'll be glad to make them available. -- Libenter homines id quod volunt credunt -- Caius Julius Caesar Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: Problem with Services tool
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Somehow, the system-conf-services tool stopped working. Starting this brings up the tool, it hangs with a blank list and 'No services selected' in a greyed out right panel. I tried to remove and reinstall system-conf-services but it does not help. What can I do to fix this? Thanks! Dan Isn't there anyone that can help me solve this one? I am really pulling out my hair over this supposedly *simple* program and I cannot for the life of me figure out why this sucker hangs! Please tell me what I can do to debug this sucker to understand WHY it hangs. I have an strace but who wants it? What does system-config-services require for proper functioning? Yes, I have pored over the man pages and it mentions hanging but *very* limited data. FYI: it worked until I did *something* (like install many packages) and somehow it broke it. Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 Mount iso at boot up
> On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 08:33 -0400, Mike Burger wrote: >> > Is there a method to mount an iso at boot time, >> > for access to contents (no cd\dvd drives) >> >> You can just add a line to /etc/fstab: >> >> /path/to/iso.image /mount/pointautoloop 1 2 >> >> Works for me. >> > > Getting a permission denied on that. > tried as both user and root owning the various isos and mounts Getting a "permission denied" on what? Editing the /etc/fstab file? Running "mount /mount/point" afterwards? -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II BBS telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org To be notified of updates to the web site, visit: https://www.bubbanfriends.org/mailman/listinfo/site-update or send a blank email message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: 2,203,458 Radeon Driver Errors
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 22:51:10 -0400, "Kevin J. Cummings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > GoogleEarth and fglrx have been known in the past to have not played > well with each other, and GE is a pain to use without the 3D support if > you use the radeon driver. I have no experience with the radeonhd > driver yet (it also does not play well if you even have fglrx > installed!). In the past the combination of GE and fglrx has been known > to freeze X on the second invocation of GE. a Hard freeze, requiring a > reboot since all keyboard is lost. YMMV More recently, its been better > but still not without problems. The normal ati driver and mesa have been improving. I seem to be getting good 3D acceleration on my R530 based card (at least for glxgears) as of about 2 weeks ago. My understanding is that the ati driver (xorg-x11-drv-ati) is the way forward, not radeonhd. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 Mount iso at boot up
On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 10:38 -0400, Mike Burger wrote: > > > > Getting a permission denied on that. > > tried as both user and root owning the various isos and mounts > > Getting a "permission denied" on what? > > Editing the /etc/fstab file? Running "mount /mount/point" afterwards? > > During boot-up (rhgb is disable to see what happening) just after the udev -interactive bit is shown "sudo mount -a" works fine after login Frank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: Problem with Services tool
Dan Thurman wrote: > Yes, I have pored over the man pages and it mentions hanging but > *very* limited data. FYI: it worked until I did *something* (like > install many packages) and somehow it broke it. Here's one suggestion: Remove the packages you installed that provide services (files in /etc/init.d or /etc/xinetd.d) until you find which one has caused the problem. Then report it as a bug either in that package or the system-config-services packages. It seems that you've run into some bugs that are caused by poorly packaged software in the distribution (based on your man page problem yesterday). This shouldn't happen, but installing nearly everything isn't a configuration that gets a lot of testing. If you do so, I think you should be prepared to do a bit of debugging and filing of bugs. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Even moderation ought not to be practiced to excess. pgpSZTdAUhXgv.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Closed source modules will be banned from kernel?
On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 13:25 -0400, max wrote: > > Is this a case of incorrect attributions in your reader, or are you > > really asking me this question and if so, what's prompted that? > > > You wrote in response to Anne's question/statement/comment: > > It's not actually considered OK, Anne, it's just human nature at work > > and continuing evidence of the decline of society. People often lose > > their decorum when there is no immediate need to display it, which is a > > direct result of people adopting specific behavior NOT because it is > > correct or acceptable, but because they are wary or in fear of the > > consequences if they do not. And THAT mindset is the direct result of > > society's choice to attempt to legislate morality rather than live it or > > breath it, or teach it by example. > > There is evidence of intelligence in your response. :-) I just wrote a page and a half of quippy bits spinning off that line, that I'm filing away for some future use, thank you. Oh, wait, that might be open for misinterpretation, sorry. Nothing derogatory or anything like that. No insults, taken or offered. I just sometimes have odd creative bursts that can be set off with absolutely minimal input. I once wrote a 60 minute sitcom pilot and outlined the first 12 half-hour episodes based on a two word non sequitur that I overheard at a supermarket. > I could go for a > while on the legislation of morality and why its wrong but this is a > technical list or it tries to be :^) Intelligent people *usually* have a > book recommendation or two, depending on the subject, if your like me > then you read enough that you probably can't decisively say which is > your favorite or the best. Exactly. Different books for different people, dependant upon circumstance and context. I can't pick a favorite book; can rarely pick a favorite from a particular genre. > So what was the last good book, > technical,non-technical, fiction, non-fiction, doesn't matter, that you > enjoyed reading? It was written by a journalist named Wulfing von Rohr. German title is "Was lehrte Jesus Wirklich?" and has the impossible sub-title of "Wie man auch heute noch über Jesus mit Gott in Verbindung treten kann / Die verborgene Botschaft der Bibel". I don't think the book has ever appeared in English. A rough translation of the title would be, "What did Jesus really teach? How even today you can connect directly to God through Jesus / The hidden message of the Bible". Mouthful, that. > You can name as many as you like, I am always > interested in good books. Of course if you don't read that doesn't > necessarily say anything about your intelligence level but I'd be very > surprised if you didn't have a recommendation or two. Oh, I could offer a few ;-) Where do you want to go today? It's hard to just toss a quick compendium out there, though, not knowing who you are, where you've been, what your current direction is, or where your interests might be. I'm into electric blues guitar, theology, alternative medicine and much of the esoteric, as well as being a quiet observer of my fellow man and his often glaring failings. Other interests, of course, but that's a big block of me. I'm going to think about a short list, and get back to you, if I may. I have a 15 Km bicycle ride in a thunderstorm to make, and need to leave a bit early today. > Or I could just have said: > > I don't know you Andy but I like you already. > > Max I thank you, sir. A lovely weekend to you, and to whomever else might read this of course. Andy -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE hosed - no display
Anne Wilson wrote: >> One brute force method is to reset your prefs >> mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.BAK >> and then (potentially) start restoring bits of it until you're back where >> you want to be or you retrigger the bug, whichever comes first. >> > Thanks, Rex. That's exactly what I have done (not done the restores yet, > though). It begs the question of how this happened, though. It does > appear to be related to the updates that I did yesterday, and apparently > I'm not the > only one to have experienced it. Bug #454055 reporter seems to think that > it > is related to xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.3.2-2.fc9.i386. I've added my bit, in > the hope that it brings light to the devs/packagers :-) Yes, you're now the 3rd person I've seen report problems like that since the xorg update. Methinks there's a smoking gun here. -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 Mount iso at boot up
> On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 10:38 -0400, Mike Burger wrote: > >> > >> > Getting a permission denied on that. >> > tried as both user and root owning the various isos and mounts >> >> Getting a "permission denied" on what? >> >> Editing the /etc/fstab file? Running "mount /mount/point" afterwards? >> >> > > During boot-up (rhgb is disable to see what happening) > just after the udev -interactive bit is shown > > "sudo mount -a" works fine after login > Actually, that makes a bit of sense. Depending on where in the fstab (should be at the bottom, as the filesystem containing the iso has to be online), it could work. I guess the next option would be to add "noauto" with "defaults", and then add "mount /mount/point" to /etc/rc.local, so you don't have to manually run the mount command, later. -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II BBS telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org To be notified of updates to the web site, visit: https://www.bubbanfriends.org/mailman/listinfo/site-update or send a blank email message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE hosed - no display
On Friday 11 July 2008 15:59:24 Rex Dieter wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > >> One brute force method is to reset your prefs > >> mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.BAK > >> and then (potentially) start restoring bits of it until you're back > >> where you want to be or you retrigger the bug, whichever comes first. > > > > Thanks, Rex. That's exactly what I have done (not done the restores yet, > > though). It begs the question of how this happened, though. It does > > appear to be related to the updates that I did yesterday, and apparently > > I'm not the > > only one to have experienced it. Bug #454055 reporter seems to think > > that it > > is related to xorg-x11-drv-i810-2.3.2-2.fc9.i386. I've added my bit, in > > the hope that it brings light to the devs/packagers :-) > > Yes, you're now the 3rd person I've seen report problems like that since > the xorg update. Methinks there's a smoking gun here. > I've restored most of the config files that I'm likely to need, and everything is still fine here, so at least that's good news. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can't get CNN video sound ??
to, 2008-07-10 kello 18:27 +0100, Anne Wilson kirjoitti: > On Wednesday 09 July 2008 17:47, Bill Davidsen wrote: > > Anne Wilson wrote: > > > On Thursday 03 July 2008 20:39:58 Antti J. Huhtala wrote: > > >> to, 2008-07-03 kello 20:19 +0100, Anne Wilson kirjoitti: > > >>> On Thursday 03 July 2008 20:08:25 William Case wrote: > > I am somewhat of a media newbie. In F8 I was able to setup/get sound > > with videos. YouTube and CNN for example, remain silent for me in F9. > > >>> > > >>> Silly question, Bill. Have you looked at mixer settings? It seems > > >>> that there are many hidden channels on a lot of sound card, hidden, > > >>> that is, on the mixer applet, so it's possible that PCM or some such is > > >>> muted or set very low. > > >>> > > >>> Anne > > >> > > >> It's not quite that simple, I'm afraid. CNN and Youtube are silent here, > > >> too. A week or so ago I was listening to some favourites of mine on > > >> Youtube but today it is silent even if video still works all right. I'd > > >> suspect one of the recent updates. This may have something to do with > > >> another thread, "Re: problems with rhythmbox after updating to > > >> udev-124-1.fc9.1"- > > > > > > Hmm - I can't check my Fedora box tonight, but I'll look at it tomorrow. > > > > Mine worked. > > > I forgot to do this, but I've done it now. Sound works in both CNN videos > and > youtube videos. This is F9 + KDE4.0.5. > > Anne > Thank you, Anne. I got it working as well by briefly visiting KDE which is also installed in this box. CNN and Youtube sound started working there and when I returned to Gnome sound still worked. I reported about this on 4th July under "Re: Can't get CNN video sound ?? -[SOLVED]" Antti -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can't get CNN video sound ??
On Friday 11 July 2008 16:15, Antti J. Huhtala wrote: > to, 2008-07-10 kello 18:27 +0100, Anne Wilson kirjoitti: > > > > I forgot to do this, but I've done it now. Sound works in both CNN > > videos and youtube videos. This is F9 + KDE4.0.5. > > > > Anne > > Thank you, Anne. I got it working as well by briefly visiting KDE which > is also installed in this box. CNN and Youtube sound started working > there and when I returned to Gnome sound still worked. Why is it that sound issues always feel like black magic? :-) > I reported about > this on 4th July under "Re: Can't get CNN video sound ?? -[SOLVED]" > I must have missed that message - it's been a bit hectic here - but I'm glad it's sorted now. Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: 2,203,458 Radeon Driver Errors
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 22:51:10 -0400, "Kevin J. Cummings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: GoogleEarth and fglrx have been known in the past to have not played well with each other, and GE is a pain to use without the 3D support if you use the radeon driver. I have no experience with the radeonhd driver yet (it also does not play well if you even have fglrx installed!). In the past the combination of GE and fglrx has been known to freeze X on the second invocation of GE. a Hard freeze, requiring a reboot since all keyboard is lost. YMMV More recently, its been better but still not without problems. The normal ati driver and mesa have been improving. I seem to be getting good 3D acceleration on my R530 based card (at least for glxgears) as of about 2 weeks ago. My understanding is that the ati driver (xorg-x11-drv-ati) is the way forward, not radeonhd. Maybe, but my experience is that its not there yet. fglrx doesn't work on F9 (no support for Xorg 1.4.99), and before that, when Red Hat jumped to the 2.6.25 kernel, there was no immediate support for that. I had to find a driver in a testing repo to fix that problem. Using the radeon driver, mplayer tells me that my machine is too slow to play videos. These are videos that fglrx had no problem playing on FC6. It may be improving, but it has a long ways to go. BTW, I have a Mobility Radeon X1600 on this laptop. Its am M56 video card (from the radeonhd documentation), whatever *that* means. Kinda tough to relate to a driver that "supports R6xx and R5xx cards". I get close to 2200 fps with glxgears myself. -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 Mount iso at boot up
On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 11:11 -0400, Mike Burger wrote: > > Actually, that makes a bit of sense. Depending on where in the fstab > (should be at the bottom, as the filesystem containing the iso has to be > online), it could work. > > I guess the next option would be to add "noauto" with "defaults", and then > add "mount /mount/point" to /etc/rc.local, so you don't have to manually > run the mount command, later. > > I give that a go in the morn, head gettin wrecked, this late. Thanks Mike. Frank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
console-kit: what is "/proc/16750/environ"
This appears consistenently in my /var/log/messages file. What IS this process and how do I fix this? = Jul 11 08:24:53 bronze console-kit-daemon[7946]: WARNING: Couldn't read /proc/16750/environ: Error reading file '/proc/16750/environ': No such process -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: Problem with Services tool
Todd Zullinger wrote: Dan Thurman wrote: > Yes, I have pored over the man pages and it mentions hanging but > *very* limited data. FYI: it worked until I did *something* (like > install many packages) and somehow it broke it. Here's one suggestion: Remove the packages you installed that provide services (files in /etc/init.d or /etc/xinetd.d) until you find which one has caused the problem. Then report it as a bug either in that package or the system-config-services packages. It seems that you've run into some bugs that are caused by poorly packaged software in the distribution (based on your man page problem yesterday). This shouldn't happen, but installing nearly everything isn't a configuration that gets a lot of testing. If you do so, I think you should be prepared to do a bit of debugging and filing of bugs. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Even moderation ought not to be practiced to excess. ok, thanks Todd. I will rollup my sleaves and try this out! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: Problem with Services tool
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:31:36 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: > Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > > > Somehow, the system-conf-services tool stopped working. > > Starting this brings up the tool, it hangs with a blank list > > and 'No services selected' in a greyed out right panel. > Isn't there anyone that can help me solve this one? I am really > pulling out my hair over this supposedly *simple* program > and I cannot for the life of me figure out why this sucker hangs! Be somewhat creative. No immediate need to debug the Python code in /usr/sbin/system-config-services, but you could move all service scripts from /etc/init.d to a backup location, install a single script and see whether that changes anything. With binary search you could find out whether any of the scripts causes s-c-s to malfunction. Else, next would be to empty /etc/rc.d/rc?.d (and/or examine it for circular links or similar damage) and see whether that helps. If it doesn't, real debugging might be necessary. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: 2,203,458 Radeon Driver Errors
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Maybe, but my experience is that its not there yet. fglrx doesn't work on F9 (no support for Xorg 1.4.99), and before that, when Red Hat jumped to the 2.6.25 kernel, there was no immediate support for that. I had to find a driver in a testing repo to fix that problem. Oops, sorry, should have said that it didn't work on x86_64! Initially it worked on i386. My bad. Had to do with the kernel symbols. fglrx needed some that were removed. That got resolved. Now the xorg 1.5 problem remains. Using the radeon driver, mplayer tells me that my machine is too slow to play videos. These are videos that fglrx had no problem playing on FC6. It may be improving, but it has a long ways to go. BTW, I have a Mobility Radeon X1600 on this laptop. Its am M56 video card (from the radeonhd documentation), whatever *that* means. Kinda tough to relate to a driver that "supports R6xx and R5xx cards". I get close to 2200 fps with glxgears myself. -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: 2,203,458 Radeon Driver Errors
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:36:53 -0400, "Kevin J. Cummings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 22:51:10 -0400, >> "Kevin J. Cummings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> GoogleEarth and fglrx have been known in the past to have not played >>> well with each other, and GE is a pain to use without the 3D support >>> if you use the radeon driver. I have no experience with the >>> radeonhd driver yet (it also does not play well if you even have >>> fglrx installed!). In the past the combination of GE and fglrx has >>> been known to freeze X on the second invocation of GE. a Hard >>> freeze, requiring a reboot since all keyboard is lost. YMMV More >>> recently, its been better but still not without problems. >> >> The normal ati driver and mesa have been improving. I seem to be getting >> good 3D acceleration on my R530 based card (at least for glxgears) as of >> about >> 2 weeks ago. My understanding is that the ati driver (xorg-x11-drv-ati) >> is the way forward, not radeonhd. > > Maybe, but my experience is that its not there yet. fglrx doesn't work > on F9 (no support for Xorg 1.4.99), and before that, when Red Hat jumped > to the 2.6.25 kernel, there was no immediate support for that. I had to > find a driver in a testing repo to fix that problem. Maybe I am confused, but I thought fglrx is ATI's propietary driver. That wasn't what I was recommending. You should just get the radeon driver (from the xorg-x11-drv-ati package) by default. If you had previously installed ATI's propietary stuff, you'll probably need to some work to get rid of it. I am getting 3200 fps from glxgears with my firegl 3400 card (R530 based) using the driver I get by default. It was more like 500-600 fps when I first put F9 on the box, but a recent mesa update resulted in a big speed up. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: NetworkManager: How to set caching nameserver?
Michael H. Warfield wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 13:10 -0400, sean darcy wrote: sean darcy wrote: NM sets my nameserver based on the isp, which is _very_ slow. I've set up a local caching nameserver which works well. But how do I tell NM to use 127.0.0.1?? I've set up dhclient.conf with a prepend statement. If I just run dhclient that works, i.e. /etc/resolv.conf has the local nameserver. But if I just start NM, it doesn't. It looks like NM tells /sbin/dhclient not to use the .conf file. So now I manually edit the resolv.conf file. How can I configure NM to use the local nameserver? sean And yes, I did try the DNS box in the NM edit connection box. But that appends the local nameserver to the isp nameserver. I want the caching nameserver to be prepended - that is, come first. This is exactly the problem I run into with my corporate VPN (AT&T proprietary SSL based POS). I have to set up dnsmasq to forward only certain requests down the VPN (DNS is ssslllooowww down the VPN) and certain requests to my local (IPv6) name servers and the rest through normal resolution. I've been searching for a solution myself. Unfortunately, all the solutions I've been able to find are outdated and already subverted by the NetworkManager developers (dhclient-script hooks no longer function with the current verion of NetworkMangler). I have a longer rant that I'm strongly tempted to send. I'd wouldn't necessarily post your rant here, as most of us here agree that NM is a bad idea gone wrong. You should, rather, post your rant as a nice big, fat bugzilla report on the NM and/or Gnome bugzillas. It'd also be nice if there was a decent how-to on the various aspects of the configuraton of wpa_supplicant (what the various "key_mgmt", "pairwise" and other parameters mean and how to find out what to use, etc.) so normal non-geeks can sort it out. As far as I can see, people submit to NM nastiness because they can't sort those out themselves. [snip] -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - Hosting Consulting, Inc. - -- - Do you know how to save five drowning lawyers? No? GOOD!- -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Package Updater NetworkManager Issue
John Austin wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 19:40 -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote: I experienced an issue with one package supplied by the package manager. The NetworkManager package would not install due to unresolved dependencies. I tried to use yum directly. It turns out that there is one package that is not available. How can I resolve this issue? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum update Setting up Update Process Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: NetworkManager-glib = 1:0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3370.fc8 for package: NetworkManager ---> Package NetworkManager-glib.x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 set to be updated ---> Package NetworkManager-gnome.x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 set to be updated ---> Package NetworkManager-glib.i386 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 set to be updated ---> Package NetworkManager.x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 set to be updated --> Running transaction check --> Finished Dependency Resolution Dependencies Resolved = Package Arch Version RepositorySize = Updating: NetworkManager x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 updates 787 k NetworkManager-glib x86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 updates 131 k NetworkManager-glib i386 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 updates 130 k NetworkManager-gnomex86_64 1:0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 updates 336 k Transaction Summary = Install 0 Package(s) Update 4 Package(s) Remove 0 Package(s) Total download size: 1.4 M Is this ok [y/N]: y Downloading Packages: Running rpm_check_debug ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve: Package NetworkManager needs NetworkManager-glib = 1:0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3370.fc8, this is not available. Package NetworkManager needs NetworkManager-glib = 1:0.7.0-0.6.7.svn3370.fc8, this is not available. Complete! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# Same problem here but only on one of two "very similar" F8 machines My preferred solution was yum remove NetworkManager* but this takes out evolution for some reason!! Try "yum erase NetworkManager.i386" if you're running x86_64. That won't take out evolution, since you have a 64-bit evolution and are only removing the 32-bit version of NM. yum --exclude NetworkManager* update was the best I could do to get most things updated Could not find out why one machine updated Ok and the other doesn't Probably the one that wouldn't work was 64-bit and the one that did was 32-bit only. Just another example of evil from NetworkManager. The dev team for it should be taken to the woodshed. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - Hosting Consulting, Inc. - -- - Veni, Vidi, VISA: I came, I saw, I did a little shopping. - -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: firefox plugins and mpeg and wmv support
> > just yesterday, i tried to make a convert of a friend by installing > fedora 9 on the spare disk on her system, and she quickly learned > about the notion of non-free software when she tried to view online > mpg and wmv files, at which point i explained the notion of the GPL, > etc, etc. > > we got to the concept of mozilla plugins for firefox, whereupon we > took a quick look under "about:plugins" and she pointed out that, as > far as the output of that page was concerned, there was this thing > called mozplugger which could handle various formats including > video/mpeg, and there was an "installed" WMP plugin that could handle > wmv files, and they were both enabled, and she said, "just from what i > can see here, this is supposed to be the list of installed plugins, > and it sure looks like those plugins are there and enabled, so why > don't they work so i can play mpeg and wmv files?" > > to which, because i don't have as much familiarity with multimedia > under fedora as i'd like, i had to admit that i didn't know. i hadn't > installed any non-free media packages yet, so i really don't know what > it means to look at "about:plugins" and be told that there are plugins > that handle those formats, and they're enabled. thoughts? i really > do need to read up on all the multimedia stuff. I've got VLC running on my F9 system. The three VLC components, in my case, are vlc-core, mozilla-vlc and vlc (all installed from the Livna repo). In addition, I believe I had to do a little research for the appropriate codecs, but once installed, I'm able to play just about everything via Firefox. -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II BBS telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org To be notified of updates to the web site, visit: https://www.bubbanfriends.org/mailman/listinfo/site-update or send a blank email message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: firefox plugins and mpeg and wmv support
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Mike Burger wrote: > > just yesterday, i tried to make a convert of a friend by installing > > fedora 9 on the spare disk on her system, and she quickly learned > > about the notion of non-free software when she tried to view online > > mpg and wmv files, at which point i explained the notion of the GPL, > > etc, etc. > > > > we got to the concept of mozilla plugins for firefox, whereupon we > > took a quick look under "about:plugins" and she pointed out that, as > > far as the output of that page was concerned, there was this thing > > called mozplugger which could handle various formats including > > video/mpeg, and there was an "installed" WMP plugin that could handle > > wmv files, and they were both enabled, and she said, "just from what i > > can see here, this is supposed to be the list of installed plugins, > > and it sure looks like those plugins are there and enabled, so why > > don't they work so i can play mpeg and wmv files?" > > > > to which, because i don't have as much familiarity with multimedia > > under fedora as i'd like, i had to admit that i didn't know. i hadn't > > installed any non-free media packages yet, so i really don't know what > > it means to look at "about:plugins" and be told that there are plugins > > that handle those formats, and they're enabled. thoughts? i really > > do need to read up on all the multimedia stuff. > > I've got VLC running on my F9 system. > > The three VLC components, in my case, are vlc-core, mozilla-vlc and > vlc (all installed from the Livna repo). > > In addition, I believe I had to do a little research for the > appropriate codecs, but once installed, I'm able to play just about > everything via Firefox. that's the route i took -- enable livna and # yum install vlc mozilla-vlc (vlc-core is a dependency of vlc so it comes along for the ride.) at the moment, she's happy so i'll do extra research into codecs on an as-needed basis. still would be nice to have a comprehensive f9 multimedia guide. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
F8 "Removable Drives and Media" applet
What rpm is needed to install "Removable Drives and Media" applet, personal preferences in gnome and xfce. Frank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora Core 6 Re-Spin
Problem is that I CANT just get rid of FC6. I use this in a corporate environment and dismantling and moving on is not viable option for me. I have several personal scripts, updates and tweaks that need to be added to each FC6 fresh install and I am just trying to find out if I fully update a computer to where it is in what I consider a usable and fully updated state, can I take an image of that so that in the future when I run the install, it is already updated with all my packages. I know this can be done, I just need to know how to do it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Gnome XDMCP defaults.conf file missing?
In F8, it used to be at: /usr/share/gdm but in F9 it is missing? Where is this moved to now? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: firefox plugins and mpeg and wmv support
Robert P. J. Day wrote: that's the route i took -- enable livna and # yum install vlc mozilla-vlc (vlc-core is a dependency of vlc so it comes along for the ride.) at the moment, she's happy so i'll do extra research into codecs on an as-needed basis. still would be nice to have a comprehensive f9 multimedia guide. You might want to look into gecko-mediaplayer and mplayer as well. There are w32codec packages available for the proprietary formats from both Livna and ATRPMs. rday -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: Problem with Services tool
On Friday 11 July 2008 16:31, Dan Thurman wrote: > Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > Somehow, the system-conf-services tool stopped working. > > Starting this brings up the tool, it hangs with a blank list > > and 'No services selected' in a greyed out right panel. > > > > I tried to remove and reinstall system-conf-services but > > it does not help. > > > > What can I do to fix this? > > > > Thanks! > > Dan > > Isn't there anyone that can help me solve this one? I am really > pulling out my hair over this supposedly *simple* program > and I cannot for the life of me figure out why this sucker hangs! > > Please tell me what I can do to debug this sucker to understand > WHY it hangs. I have an strace but who wants it? What does > system-config-services require for proper functioning? > > Yes, I have pored over the man pages and it mentions hanging > but *very* limited data. FYI: it worked until I did *something* > (like install many packages) and somehow it broke it. > > Thanks! > Dan Hi Dan. I don't know why the services tool stopped working for you, but /sbin/chkconfig is the CLI tool to stop and start services, and looking in synaptic on my FC2 install under system-config-services, chkconfig is a dep for it, so it looks like system-config-services is just a graphical frontend to chkconfig. What do you get if you su to root on the CLI, and run chkconfig? It should give you the following options. [EMAIL PROTECTED] djmons]# /sbin/chkconfig chkconfig version 1.3.9 - Copyright (C) 1997-2000 Red Hat, Inc. This may be freely redistributed under the terms of the GNU Public License. usage: chkconfig --list [name] chkconfig --add chkconfig --del chkconfig [--level ] ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] djmons]# /sbin/chkconfig --list shows the current state of all services It may be worth a look, as chkconfig appears to be the backend to the system-config-services GUI. 2¢ worth of perhaps nothing. Nigel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora Core 6 Re-Spin
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 12:41:58 -0500, Bill Cody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Problem is that I CANT just get rid of FC6. I use this in a corporate > environment and dismantling and moving on is not viable option for me. I > have several personal scripts, updates and tweaks that need to be added to > each FC6 fresh install and I am just trying to find out if I fully update a > computer to where it is in what I consider a usable and fully updated state, > can I take an image of that so that in the future when I run the install, it > is already updated with all my packages. I know this can be done, I just > need to know how to do it. If the hardware changes the image might not work. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: firefox plugins and mpeg and wmv support
On Friday 11 July 2008 19:15:07 Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > that's the route i took -- enable livna and > > > > # yum install vlc mozilla-vlc > > > > (vlc-core is a dependency of vlc so it comes along for the ride.) > > > > at the moment, she's happy so i'll do extra research into codecs on > > an as-needed basis. still would be nice to have a comprehensive f9 > > multimedia guide. > > You might want to look into gecko-mediaplayer and mplayer as well. > There are w32codec packages available for the proprietary formats from > both Livna and ATRPMs. > Something else to investigate - If you are using kde, check file associations, especially the Embedded tag. Sometimes the web side is not set up. I guess there's an equivalent in gnome, but I don't know it. Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: Problem with Services tool
Nigel Henry wrote: On Friday 11 July 2008 16:31, Dan Thurman wrote: > Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > Somehow, the system-conf-services tool stopped working. > > Starting this brings up the tool, it hangs with a blank list > > and 'No services selected' in a greyed out right panel. > > > > I tried to remove and reinstall system-conf-services but > > it does not help. > > > > What can I do to fix this? > > > > Thanks! > > Dan > > Isn't there anyone that can help me solve this one? I am really > pulling out my hair over this supposedly *simple* program > and I cannot for the life of me figure out why this sucker hangs! > > Please tell me what I can do to debug this sucker to understand > WHY it hangs. I have an strace but who wants it? What does > system-config-services require for proper functioning? > > Yes, I have pored over the man pages and it mentions hanging > but *very* limited data. FYI: it worked until I did *something* > (like install many packages) and somehow it broke it. > > Thanks! > Dan Hi Dan. I don't know why the services tool stopped working for you, but /sbin/chkconfig is the CLI tool to stop and start services, and looking in synaptic on my FC2 install under system-config-services, chkconfig is a dep for it, so it looks like system-config-services is just a graphical frontend to chkconfig. What do you get if you su to root on the CLI, and run chkconfig? It should give you the following options. [EMAIL PROTECTED] djmons]# /sbin/chkconfig chkconfig version 1.3.9 - Copyright (C) 1997-2000 Red Hat, Inc. This may be freely redistributed under the terms of the GNU Public License. usage: chkconfig --list [name] chkconfig --add chkconfig --del chkconfig [--level ] ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] djmons]# /sbin/chkconfig --list shows the current state of all services It may be worth a look, as chkconfig appears to be the backend to the system-config-services GUI. 2¢ worth of perhaps nothing. Nigel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Funnyingly, chkconfig was the only tool that saved me in en/disabling services that I did not want and yes, it works. I wonder, however, if chkconfig is improperly set for s-c-s to be able to hook to it. Hm. # chkconfig -v chkconfig version 1.3.37 Permissions: -rwxr-xr-x root root system_u:object_r:bin_t:s0 /sbin/chkconfig Other than the version difference, it looks ok to me, how about you? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: Problem with Services tool
Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:31:36 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: > Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > > > Somehow, the system-conf-services tool stopped working. > > Starting this brings up the tool, it hangs with a blank list > > and 'No services selected' in a greyed out right panel. > Isn't there anyone that can help me solve this one? I am really > pulling out my hair over this supposedly *simple* program > and I cannot for the life of me figure out why this sucker hangs! Be somewhat creative. No immediate need to debug the Python code in /usr/sbin/system-config-services, but you could move all service scripts from /etc/init.d to a backup location, install a single script and see whether that changes anything. With binary search you could find out whether any of the scripts causes s-c-s to malfunction. Else, next would be to empty /etc/rc.d/rc?.d (and/or examine it for circular links or similar damage) and see whether that helps. If it doesn't, real debugging might be necessary. All of files moved out into a temp area and add one-by-one into the respective places? If so, do I remain in booted state and do a Kill -1 1 or something to test this out? What scares me is that if I reboot at each test, would I be caught in a state that I could never log in? Please advise how I should go about this? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9 will not update
Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:50:07 -0400, Bob Barrett wrote:
Because the problem seemed to be with yum, I didn't think all the stuff
I had removed was relevant.
Only with the full output one can draw conclusions. Some further below.
When running "yum list installed..." it said
had the two packages.
Correct, but during the "yum update" it shows whether there are
updates. And since there are updates for the two packages you queried,
it doesn't become clear what requires the old packages.
When doing an update, it said it didn't have them.
Because it no longer sees them if there are updates to these pkgs.
I haven't updated in some time because I thought the problem may be fixed
with a later update.
Please show:
rpm -q yum perl-version perl-Pod-Escapes kdevelop-libs
(or package-cleanup --dupes if yum-utils are installed)
Somehow I think you may have duplicate packages installed.
Some oddities in your yum output:
---> Package perl-version.i386 3:0.74-30.fc9 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: perl = 4:5.10.0-22.fc9 for package: perl-version
---> Package perl-Pod-Escapes.i386 1:1.04-30.fc9 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: perl = 4:5.10.0-22.fc9 for package:
perl-Pod-Escapes
These two make no sense as the new "perl-version" and "perl-Pod-Escapes"
require the new "perl = 4:5.10.0-30.fc9" (note the release 30) and not the
older installed one (22). These packages are built from the same source
package. They belong to eachother. The dependency on the old 22.fc9
release does not come from the updated packages.
The same happens to several of your Perl packages. Please show
that you don't have multiple releases of those packages installed.
---> Package kdevelop.i386 9:3.5.2-2.fc9 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: kdevelop = 9:3.5.2-1.fc9 for package:
kdevelop-libs
Same here. The new kdevelop (release 2.fc9) is seen, but an
installed old kdevelop-libs requires the old kdevelop although
there is a new kdevelop-libs (release 2.fc9). "rpm -q kdevelop-libs"
must not return two packages.
There are tools to help with duplicates ("package-cleanup --cleandupes")
or incomplete transactions ("yum-complete-transaction"). Also make
sure you've got the latest Yum ("yum -y update yum").
Your's shows the time as 04:51 AM. Do you get up that early, or stay up
that late? For me, it would probably be up that late. Thanks, anyway.
You're right:
[]# rpm -q yum perl-version perl-Pod-Escapes kdevelop-libs
yum-3.2.16-2.fc9.noarch
perl-version-0.74-22.fc9.i386
perl-version-0.74-27.fc9.i386
perl-Pod-Escapes-1.04-22.fc9.i386
perl-Pod-Escapes-1.04-27.fc9.i386
kdevelop-libs-3.5.2-1.fc9.i386
kdevelop-libs-3.5.2-2.fc9.i386
[]# package-cleanup --dupes
Setting up yum
1:openoffice.org-draw-2.4.1-17.4.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-draw-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.i386
6:kdebase-4.0.5-3.fc9.i386
6:kdebase-4.0.5-4.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-extras-2.19.1-15.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-extras-2.19.1-16.fc9.i386
kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686-173.14.05-4.lvn9.i686
kmod-nvidia-2.6.25.6-55.fc9.i686-173.14.09-1.lvn9.i686
lcms-1.17-4.fc9.i386
lcms-1.17-5.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-canvas-2.22.1-2.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-canvas-2.22.0-2.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-bonobo-2.22.0-2.fc9.i386
gnome-python2-bonobo-2.22.1-2.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-writer-2.4.1-17.4.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-writer-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.i386
kdesdk-libs-4.0.5-3.fc9.i386
kdesdk-libs-4.0.5-2.fc9.i386
1:qt-devel-4.3.5-2.fc9.i386
1:qt-devel-4.3.5-1.fc9.i386
totem-nautilus-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386
totem-nautilus-2.23.2-2.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-graphicfilter-2.4.1-17.4.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-graphicfilter-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.i386
selinux-policy-targeted-3.3.1-69.fc9.noarch
selinux-policy-targeted-3.3.1-64.fc9.noarch
libraw1394-1.3.0-6.fc9.i386
libraw1394-1.3.0-7.fc9.i386
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173.14.09-1.lvn9.i386
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173.14.05-1.lvn9.i386
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-173.14.09-1.lvn9.i386
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-173.14.05-1.lvn9.i386
db4-devel-4.6.21-5.fc9.i386
db4-devel-4.6.21-6.fc9.i386
libdrm-devel-2.4.0-0.13.fc9.i386
libdrm-devel-2.4.0-0.11.fc9.i386
db4-4.6.21-6.fc9.i386
db4-4.6.21-5.fc9.i386
ruby-libs-1.8.6.230-2.fc9.i386
ruby-libs-1.8.6.114-1.fc9.i386
ffmpeg-libs-0.4.9-0.45.20080113.lvn9.i386
ffmpeg-libs-0.4.9-0.46.20080225.lvn9.i386
yelp-2.22.1-3.fc9.i386
yelp-2.22.1-1.fc9.i386
libquicktime-1.0.2-3.lvn9.i386
libquicktime-1.0.2-2.lvn9.i386
bluez-utils-cups-3.30-2.fc9.i386
bluez-utils-cups-3.32-1.fc9.i386
kmod-nvidia-173.14.05-4.lvn9.i686
kmod-nvidia-173.14.09-1.lvn9.i686
1:openoffice.org-impress-2.4.1-17.3.fc9.i386
1:openoffice.org-impress-2.4.1-17.4.fc9.i386
selinux-policy-3.3.1-69.fc9.noarch
selinux-policy-3.3.1-64.fc9.noarch
totem-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386
totem-2.23.2-2.fc9.i386
words-3.0-12.fc7.noarch
words-3.0-12.1.fc9.noarch
hdf5-1.8.0-1.fc9.i386
hdf5-1.8.1-1.fc9.i386
postgresql-libs-8.3.3-1.fc9.i386
postgresql-libs-8.3.3-2.fc9.i386
1:perl-Module-Pluggable-3.60-22.fc9.i3
Re: F9: Problem with Services tool
Dan Thurman wrote: Nigel Henry wrote: On Friday 11 July 2008 16:31, Dan Thurman wrote: > Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > Somehow, the system-conf-services tool stopped working. > > Starting this brings up the tool, it hangs with a blank list > > and 'No services selected' in a greyed out right panel. > > > > I tried to remove and reinstall system-conf-services but > > it does not help. > > > > What can I do to fix this? > > > > Thanks! > > Dan > > Isn't there anyone that can help me solve this one? I am really > pulling out my hair over this supposedly *simple* program > and I cannot for the life of me figure out why this sucker hangs! > > Please tell me what I can do to debug this sucker to understand > WHY it hangs. I have an strace but who wants it? What does > system-config-services require for proper functioning? > > Yes, I have pored over the man pages and it mentions hanging > but *very* limited data. FYI: it worked until I did *something* > (like install many packages) and somehow it broke it. > > Thanks! > Dan Hi Dan. I don't know why the services tool stopped working for you, but /sbin/chkconfig is the CLI tool to stop and start services, and looking in synaptic on my FC2 install under system-config-services, chkconfig is a dep for it, so it looks like system-config-services is just a graphical frontend to chkconfig. What do you get if you su to root on the CLI, and run chkconfig? It should give you the following options. [EMAIL PROTECTED] djmons]# /sbin/chkconfig chkconfig version 1.3.9 - Copyright (C) 1997-2000 Red Hat, Inc. This may be freely redistributed under the terms of the GNU Public License. usage: chkconfig --list [name] chkconfig --add chkconfig --del chkconfig [--level ] ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] djmons]# /sbin/chkconfig --list shows the current state of all services It may be worth a look, as chkconfig appears to be the backend to the system-config-services GUI. 2¢ worth of perhaps nothing. Nigel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Funnyingly, chkconfig was the only tool that saved me in en/disabling services that I did not want and yes, it works. I wonder, however, if chkconfig is improperly set for s-c-s to be able to hook to it. Hm. # chkconfig -v chkconfig version 1.3.37 Permissions: -rwxr-xr-x root root system_u:object_r:bin_t:s0 /sbin/chkconfig Other than the version difference, it looks ok to me, how about you? /usr/bin/system-config-services is a symlink to /usr/bin/consolehelper. consolehelper is a part of the "usermode" RPM. Perhaps consolehelper is screwed up? -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - Hosting Consulting, Inc. - -- - Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? I don't know. Who cares? - -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: Problem with Services tool
Rick Stevens wrote: Dan Thurman wrote: > Nigel Henry wrote: >> >> On Friday 11 July 2008 16:31, Dan Thurman wrote: >> > Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >> > > Somehow, the system-conf-services tool stopped working. >> > > Starting this brings up the tool, it hangs with a blank list >> > > and 'No services selected' in a greyed out right panel. >> > > >> > > I tried to remove and reinstall system-conf-services but >> > > it does not help. >> > > >> > > What can I do to fix this? >> > > >> > > Thanks! >> > > Dan >> > >> > Isn't there anyone that can help me solve this one? I am really >> > pulling out my hair over this supposedly *simple* program >> > and I cannot for the life of me figure out why this sucker hangs! >> > >> > Please tell me what I can do to debug this sucker to understand >> > WHY it hangs. I have an strace but who wants it? What does >> > system-config-services require for proper functioning? >> > >> > Yes, I have pored over the man pages and it mentions hanging >> > but *very* limited data. FYI: it worked until I did *something* >> > (like install many packages) and somehow it broke it. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > Dan >> >> Hi Dan. I don't know why the services tool stopped working for you, >> but /sbin/chkconfig is the CLI tool to stop and start services, and >> looking >> in synaptic on my FC2 install under system-config-services, chkconfig >> is a >> dep for it, so it looks like system-config-services is just a graphical >> frontend to chkconfig. >> >> What do you get if you su to root on the CLI, and run chkconfig? It >> should >> give you the following options. >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] djmons]# /sbin/chkconfig >> chkconfig version 1.3.9 - Copyright (C) 1997-2000 Red Hat, Inc. >> This may be freely redistributed under the terms of the GNU Public >> License. >> >> usage: chkconfig --list [name] >> chkconfig --add >> chkconfig --del >> chkconfig [--level ] ) >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] djmons]# >> >> /sbin/chkconfig --list shows the current state of all services >> >> It may be worth a look, as chkconfig appears to be the backend to the >> system-config-services GUI. >> >> 2¢ worth of perhaps nothing. >> >> Nigel. >> >> -- >> fedora-list mailing list >> fedora-list@redhat.com >> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list >> > Funnyingly, chkconfig was the only tool that saved me in > en/disabling services that I did not want and yes, it works. > > I wonder, however, if chkconfig is improperly set for > s-c-s to be able to hook to it. Hm. > > # chkconfig -v > chkconfig version 1.3.37 > > Permissions: > -rwxr-xr-x root root system_u:object_r:bin_t:s0 /sbin/chkconfig > > Other than the version difference, it looks ok to me, how about you? /usr/bin/system-config-services is a symlink to /usr/bin/consolehelper. consolehelper is a part of the "usermode" RPM. Perhaps consolehelper is screwed up? Yes, you are correct. But I have not been able to test this. I cannot run it to check it out. How does one test this? Thanks for the pointer! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
QEMU in F8/9
I am interested in getting QEMU running in F8/9 so that I can install MS Office 2003 and then run Access (which I believe won't run at all in Linux via Wine or Crossover) - I know this would involve installing a virtualised copy of Windows - but there seems no alternative (unless you know better?) Does anyone know of a good setup guide / howto via a web reference? The idea is to have this set up in a way that a non-expert can easily start Access and use it from within the KDE 3.5 desktop - this is for someone else who is competent using the Linux system after being converted away from MS but is not an administrator or CLI expert. Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: Problem with Services tool
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:42:15 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: > Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > > On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:31:36 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: > > > > > Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > > > > > > > Somehow, the system-conf-services tool stopped working. > > > > Starting this brings up the tool, it hangs with a blank list > > > > and 'No services selected' in a greyed out right panel. > > > > > Isn't there anyone that can help me solve this one? I am really > > > pulling out my hair over this supposedly *simple* program > > > and I cannot for the life of me figure out why this sucker hangs! > > > > Be somewhat creative. No immediate need to debug the Python code in > > /usr/sbin/system-config-services, but you could move all service scripts > > from /etc/init.d to a backup location, install a single script and see > > whether that changes anything. With binary search you could find out > > whether any of the scripts causes s-c-s to malfunction. Else, next would > > be to empty /etc/rc.d/rc?.d (and/or examine it for circular links or > > similar damage) and see whether that helps. If it doesn't, real debugging > > might be necessary. > > > All of files moved out into a temp area and add one-by-one into the > respective > places? If so, do I remain in booted state and do a Kill -1 1 or > something to > test this out? What scares me is that if I reboot at each test, would I > be caught > in a state that I could never log in? > > Please advise how I should go about this? Don't reboot, don't kill anything, just restart system-config-services from within a terminal. It's just a quick test whether any service will show up or if the problem is entirely elsewhere. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9 will not update
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:48:40 -0400, Bob Barrett wrote: > Your's shows the time as 04:51 AM. Do you get up that early, or stay up > that late? For me, it would probably be up that late. Thanks, anyway. No, different time-zone. It was 10:51:05 here (UTC +2). > You're right: > Could not find update match for yum > No Packages marked for Update Fine. You have the latest already. A now "yum update" works? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: firefox plugins and mpeg and wmv support
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > that's the route i took -- enable livna and > > > > # yum install vlc mozilla-vlc > > > > (vlc-core is a dependency of vlc so it comes along for the ride.) > > > > at the moment, she's happy so i'll do extra research into codecs on > > an as-needed basis. still would be nice to have a comprehensive f9 > > multimedia guide. > > You might want to look into gecko-mediaplayer and mplayer as well. > There are w32codec packages available for the proprietary formats > from both Livna and ATRPMs. i had already noticed those and made a note of them. also, since i already installed vlc from livna, i'm guessing i better stick with livna. isn't atrpms one of the repos that is allegedly not compatible with livna? rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: QEMU in F8/9
Mike wrote: I am interested in getting QEMU running in F8/9 so that I can install MS Office 2003 and then run Access (which I believe won't run at all in Linux via Wine or Crossover) - I know this would involve installing a virtualised copy of Windows - but there seems no alternative (unless you know better?) Does anyone know of a good setup guide / howto via a web reference? The idea is to have this set up in a way that a non-expert can easily start Access and use it from within the KDE 3.5 desktop - this is for someone else who is competent using the Linux system after being converted away from MS but is not an administrator or CLI expert. Thanks http://www.go2linux.org/how-to-install-qemu-on-fedora This is a simple guide to get it up and running. Let me know if you have any questions HTH, Greg Sieranski -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: [F9] laptop not booting - reinstall MBR?
Hey don I've had the same problem and what I ended up doing was booting into a live mandriva linux cd and backing up almy data to a usb hardrve and then re-partitoning my hardrive and re-installing both Windows Vista and Fedora 8. If you can find some mirroring software you might be able to mirror you drive onto an external drive and then just transfer that mirror to your hardrive. I'm not sure but ther's partitoning software out there that might let you boot up into a setup utility so you don't have to install any thing. But before you try this you don't have to mirror your drive but make sure you back up your important files such as documents and things like that. Let me know if you need any more help. Nick Patton On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 12:45 -0400, Don Levey wrote: > My F9 laptop won't boot this morning - I go through the POST, but when I > ordinarily get to the "Hit Enter for options" boot screen, all I get is: > > GRUB > > at the top left of my screen. Does this mean I need to reinstall grub > and the MBR? I can access the HD via a liveCD, and everything *seems* > OK from what I can tell. Any thoughts? > > Thanks, > -Don > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: Problem with Services tool
On Friday 11 July 2008 20:38, Dan Thurman wrote: > Nigel Henry wrote: > > On Friday 11 July 2008 16:31, Dan Thurman wrote: > > > Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > > > Somehow, the system-conf-services tool stopped working. > > > > Starting this brings up the tool, it hangs with a blank list > > > > and 'No services selected' in a greyed out right panel. > > > > > > > > I tried to remove and reinstall system-conf-services but > > > > it does not help. > > > > > > > > What can I do to fix this? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Dan > > > > > > Isn't there anyone that can help me solve this one? I am really > > > pulling out my hair over this supposedly *simple* program > > > and I cannot for the life of me figure out why this sucker hangs! > > > > > > Please tell me what I can do to debug this sucker to understand > > > WHY it hangs. I have an strace but who wants it? What does > > > system-config-services require for proper functioning? > > > > > > Yes, I have pored over the man pages and it mentions hanging > > > but *very* limited data. FYI: it worked until I did *something* > > > (like install many packages) and somehow it broke it. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Dan > > > > Hi Dan. I don't know why the services tool stopped working for you, > > but /sbin/chkconfig is the CLI tool to stop and start services, and > > looking > > in synaptic on my FC2 install under system-config-services, chkconfig > > is a > > dep for it, so it looks like system-config-services is just a graphical > > frontend to chkconfig. > > > > What do you get if you su to root on the CLI, and run chkconfig? It > > should > > give you the following options. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] djmons]# /sbin/chkconfig > > chkconfig version 1.3.9 - Copyright (C) 1997-2000 Red Hat, Inc. > > This may be freely redistributed under the terms of the GNU Public > > License. > > > > usage: chkconfig --list [name] > > chkconfig --add > > chkconfig --del > > chkconfig [--level ] ) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] djmons]# > > > > /sbin/chkconfig --list shows the current state of all services > > > > It may be worth a look, as chkconfig appears to be the backend to the > > system-config-services GUI. > > > > 2¢ worth of perhaps nothing. > > > > Nigel. > > > > -- > > fedora-list mailing list > > fedora-list@redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > Funnyingly, chkconfig was the only tool that saved me in > en/disabling services that I did not want and yes, it works. > > I wonder, however, if chkconfig is improperly set for > s-c-s to be able to hook to it. Hm. > > # chkconfig -v > chkconfig version 1.3.37 Obviously my chkconfig version is ancient, as it's on FC2, see below. [EMAIL PROTECTED] djmons]# /sbin/chkconfig -v chkconfig version 1.3.9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] djmons]# Not sure how to determine the permissions, as you show below, but my reply was simply to get some verification that chkconfig was working as expected. > > Permissions: > -rwxr-xr-x root root system_u:object_r:bin_t:s0 /sbin/chkconfig > > Other than the version difference, it looks ok to me, how about you? Sorry for not being able to suggest a solution to your problem. It doesn't help, that I havn't yet installed F 9. It does take some time on dialup to DL the iso's, so at the moment have no chance of reproducing your problem. Nigel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: QEMU in F8/9
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am interested in getting QEMU running in F8/9 so that I can install > MS Office 2003 and then run Access (which I believe won't run at all > in Linux via Wine or Crossover) - I know this would involve installing > a virtualised copy of Windows - but there seems no alternative (unless > you know better?) > > Does anyone know of a good setup guide / howto via a web reference? > > The idea is to have this set up in a way that a non-expert can easily > start Access and use it from within the KDE 3.5 desktop - this is for > someone else who is competent using the Linux system after being converted > away from MS but is not an administrator or CLI expert. > > Thanks > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > yum install virt-manager and if you have the livna repo available yum install kmod-kqemu as well -- Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Wine 1 and Office 2003?
Tim wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 13:46 +, Mike C wrote: one nice thing about Crossover (and Wine) is that one can run specific MS Office applications without having to install a full Windows VM operating system. I don't have a particular need, but just a curiosity. My laptop came pre-installed with Vista, so I kept it there. The various Windows+Linux things that I've read about talk about emulation, or installing Windows in a virtual machine. What methods would/could make use of a pre-installed Windows on another partition? You /can/ run Windows under VMWare when it's in a different partitiion. I don't know if you can do that with VirtualBox or not but I've done the first in the past (mind you that was using VMWare Workstation, not VMWare server...I don't know if you can do that with Server or not). Kevin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Wine 1 and Office 2003?
max wrote: Mike C wrote: Frank Murphy utvinternet.com> writes: Have a look at Crossover Linux, if you don't wan't to run\virtualise windows . http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/group/?app_parent=779; This is a report on office 2003 I do use Crossover too (I have been a paid up member for about 5 years) but in this case I run Office XP in Crossover but want to test Office 2003 in wine, especially since wine has now nominally reached maturity with the 1.0 release. However it seems not so easy to get at a good up to date howto for running office apps (which are essential for me to be compatible with other people I share documents with who use MS). I don't use any office suite for more than the basics. What kind of differences keep you using M$ Office vs. open office? Is it some missing functionality or just compatibility issues? In my somewhat limited use of things like spreadsheets, word-processor, etc I haven't noticed any significant difference. I haven't had any issues opening M$ office files with open office but again my needs are pretty basic, maybe with really complex spreadsheets there is a problem? I haven't tried anything with M$Office 2007 docs. I'd appreciate being enlightened on the topic if anyone can spare me an explanation. Max FWIW, I've seen problems with Office being able to display tables correctly in a .doc file that had been modified with OpenOffice. Kevin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
how come Sys -> Adm -> Display can't see the full resolution?
(by way of intro, i got to this point after pretty much trashing my X setup trying to get googleearth to run properly, and finally putting the bits and pieces back together enough to restore a normal X session. gr. we'll be getting to that little adventure shortly.) scenario: gateway mx8711 laptop 1440x900 res display intel 945GM video controller at the moment, the system really is running at full 1440x900, but only because it's set that way via: System -> Preferences -> Hardware -> Screen Resolution which is set to 1440x900 and Laptop 17". however, what i don't understand is why i can't select that resolution via System -> Administration -> Display (system-config-display) which lets me go only as high as 1024x768. when i run s-c-d, under "Settings", i see only up to 1024x768, but if i go over to the "Hardware" tab, i see: Monitor Type: LCD Panel 1440x900 Video Card: Intel ... 945GM/GMS ... so i'm confused ... the Hardware tab clearly recognizes the display, yet the Settings tab won't let me choose that resolution. am i missing something? or, given that it's working properly, do i care? rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: QEMU in F8/9
Sieranski, Greg quoininc.com> writes: > http://www.go2linux.org/how-to-install-qemu-on-fedora > > This is a simple guide to get it up and running. Let me know if you have > any questions Thanks Greg - cpuple of questions - the next post referred to using virt-manager but I guess that is a different route to qemu? I presume also that with the livna repo enabled I would do yum install qemu kmod-qemu ? Or is the kqemu package needed also? Am not knowledgable about the differences these other packages make?s -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
fedora errors
My system is an AMD 64 Athlon X2 4600+ on a GIGABYTE S-Series GA-MA74GM-S2H motherboard with a 320GB EIDE WD Caviar SE 7200RPM Hard Drive 64 bit Fedora Linux Identity Kit ERROR List from upgrade after initial installing system with Fedora 8 When I try to install the 280 or so upgraded pacaages I get this: file /usr/lib/libnm-util.so.0.0.0 from install of NetworkManager- glib-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /etc/dbus-1/system.d/NetworkManager.conf from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /etc/rc.d/init.d/NetworkManager from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/doc/NetworkManager-0.7.0/ChangeLog from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/doc/NetworkManager-0.7.0/README from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/ar/LC_MESSAGES/NetworkManager.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/LC_MESSAGES/NetworkManager.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/LC_MESSAGES/nm-applet.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES/NetworkManager.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES/nm-applet.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/NetworkManager.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES/nm-applet.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/NetworkManager.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/nm-applet.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/NetworkManager.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/nm-applet.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/et/LC_MESSAGES/NetworkManager.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES/NetworkManager.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES/nm-applet.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/NetworkManager.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/nm-applet.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/gl/LC_MESSAGES/NetworkManager.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/gl/LC_MESSAGES/nm-applet.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/hu/LC_MESSAGES/NetworkManager.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/hu/LC_MESSAGES/nm-applet.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with file from package NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.5.svn3030.fc8 file /usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/NetworkManager.mo from install of NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.6.9.svn3675.fc8 conflicts with f
Re: How to change order of services
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Andrea wrote: I hadn't noticed. I haven't looked recently, either. for "network": ### BEGIN INIT INFO # Provides: $network # Should-Start: iptables ip6tables ### END INIT INFO for "wpa_supplicant": ### BEGIN INIT INFO # Provides: wpa_supplicant # Required-Start: $local_fs messagebus # Required-Stop: $local_fs messagebus # Default-Start: # Default-Stop: 0 1 6 # Short-Description: start and stop wpa_supplicant # Description: wpa_supplicant is a tool for connecting to wireless networks ### END INIT INFO I will try to add wpa_supplicant to "Required-Start" of the network. By all means, let us know how it turns out! Just wait next system update. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora Core 6 Re-Spin
Bill Cody wrote, On 07/11/2008 01:41 PM: Problem is that I CANT just get rid of FC6. I use this in a corporate environment and dismantling and moving on is not viable option for me. I have several personal scripts, updates and tweaks that need to be added to each FC6 fresh install and I am just trying to find out if I fully update a computer to where it is in what I consider a usable and fully updated state, can I take an image of that so that in the future when I run the install, it is already updated with all my packages. I know this can be done, I just need to know how to do it. Been a while since I worked at doing something like this... (for DVD output) The steps go something like: 1) get FC6 install media that you currently have. 2) copy all the data from the install media into one directory structure. (if there are multiple CDs instead of a DVD, you are essentially building the DVD's worth of data.) 3) if there are updates in a yum repo somewhere for any of the rpm's in this directory structure, remove the out of date rpm and insert the new one. (if the files in the repo and the structure are local there are tools to help, rvc.) 4) rebuild the hdlist. 5) make sure any kickstart file and isolinux.cfg changes you want to make are in place. 6) make the ISO, and make sure you use the correct options to make it bootable. 7) burn the disk. BTW a quick google of a term in one of the scripts I used (for an RHEL) points out to: http://www.redhat.com/archives/enigma-list/2002-January/msg02442.html From a cursory glance those look like good but out of date scripts. i.e. a place to start from. This one looks a little closer to what I used: http://www.redhat.com/archives/kickstart-list/2004-May/msg00144.html and rvc was found here: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/RedHat-CD-HOWTO/rhcd-scripts/rpmvc/ http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/RedHat-CD-HOWTO/rhcd-scripts/ http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/RedHat-CD-HOWTO/ And of course, even though these guys don't make updated FC6 images... they _KNOW_ HOW to do it: http://spins.fedoraunity.org/ http://spins.fedoraunity.org/spins oooh, just as I was leaving this message, I look at: http://spins.fedoraunity.org/team-documentation You might ask them for directions/tools. Hope this helps. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: NetworkManager: How to set caching nameserver?
On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 09:48 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Michael H. Warfield wrote: > > > > I have a longer rant that I'm strongly tempted to send. > > I'd wouldn't necessarily post your rant here, as most of us here agree > that NM is a bad idea gone wrong. Speak for yourself (unless you have hard data to back up your assertion). > You should, rather, post your rant as > a nice big, fat bugzilla report on the NM and/or Gnome bugzillas. Better would be a handful of focused, reproducible error reports, so that the problems can be fixed and the tool improved. Rants aren't really helpful as Bugzilla reports. They are, however, great ways to generate traffic on mailing lists. > > It'd also be nice if there was a decent how-to on the various aspects of > the configuraton of wpa_supplicant (what the various "key_mgmt", > "pairwise" and other parameters mean and how to find out what to use, > etc.) so normal non-geeks can sort it out. As far as I can see, people > submit to NM nastiness because they can't sort those out themselves. I agree with the need for more and better documentation for wpa_supplicant and for NM. But I mostly "submit" to NM because it mostly works for me. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Wine 1 and Office 2003?
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 13:46 +, Mike C wrote: >> one nice thing about Crossover (and Wine) is that one can run specific >> MS Office applications without having to install a full Windows VM >> operating system. > > I don't have a particular need, but just a curiosity. My laptop came > pre-installed with Vista, so I kept it there. The various Windows+Linux > things that I've read about talk about emulation, or installing Windows > in a virtual machine. What methods would/could make use of a > pre-installed Windows on another partition? I had luck booting Windows XP from a partition under F8 with VirtualBox. It's a good idea to use a separate hardware profile so windows doesn't re-detect all the hardware changes every time you switch between booting it in a virtual machine and normally. Also, be careful of mounting your windows partition and accessing it and having the virtual machine up and accessing it at the same time. Vista will undoubtedly require much more resources so you should have a pretty beefy system. Dual core and 4GB ram minimum. Richard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
