Re: Choosing the 'right' icon for an application
Robin Norwood wrote: So I've been looking at importing the icons for applications for the Fedora Applications web site [1]. We'd like to show an icon next to a given application, preferably the one the user would see in the menus after installing said app. This is, of course, complicated. I can currently look for icons inside each rpm in Fedora, specifically the rpm providing the application we're interested in, and the various *-icon-theme rpms. My current thinking is, for each application: o Get the icon name from the application's .desktop file. This seems sane o Look in /usr/share/icons for icons matching that name from the various default Fedora themes. o Pick an appropriately-sized icon png (probably 48x48). - We could also store svg instead of png. I don't think there is a need to store the SVG, there is no straightforward way to embed in in a web page (and have it rendered correctly by all browsers). o Create a map that looks something like this: OS - Application - Theme - icon With a 'generic' theme for icons provided by the application. o Save the above map and icon data in the web application's database. o When picking an icon to show the user, pick the one from their currently-selected theme and OS (if we know it), falling back to an icon from the Fedora or 'generic' theme. I am curious to identify which icon theme is the user using. The browser does not know this info, the only way I can imagine it working is to have smolt reporting the theme and link data from smolt with amber. I don't think you want to go this route (complicated, privacy issues, smolt is off by default) Does this sound sane? I don't know enough about how icons work to know if I've missed something. I want to add that we are not sure at this time which icon set will be used in F10 as default, we try to have Echo but we may end staying one more cycle with Mist (but this should be easy to solve, both themes are using the same naming structure). [1] https://fedorahosted.org/amber/ -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Theme propose reloaded .
Just the final version of my theme proposal concept. =] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Simmetricalreloaded.png http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/simmetricalfreedom ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
R: Re: F10 artwork schedule - time to close proposals?
+1 I think it's good go to the next step and turn all the proposal in something real. Samuele - Messaggio originale - Da: RazGriz [EMAIL PROTECTED] A: Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers. fedora-art-list@redhat.com Inviato: Martedì, 15 luglio 2008 7:09:43 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam/Berlino/Berna/Roma/Stoccolma/Vienna Oggetto: Re: F10 artwork schedule - time to close proposals? +1. On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Weller wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote: We've an overwhelming number of proposals for F10 now. Should we close new proposals for F10 so we don't have our focus spread across too many ideas? Give everyone another week. Some people may be working on proposals right now. Good idea! Is everyone okay with closing it on July 21st? Also, we should probably go through the proposals missing the requirements and remind the proposers to fully fill them out or pull them. A matrix on the wiki page might help. It also might help to have a wiki page with the requirements for each stage, with examples from previous releases' successful themes. Maybe I can talk with you tomorrow about what exactly the requirements are and I can compile the pages... We do have a page with the requirements; they have been the same since F7: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes#How_to_Play Basically: - have a good *concept* - create a wiki page with: - a theme name - initial sketches (at least one is what we usually say, and they can be examples or references to other artwork) - an explanation of the concept and how it relates to Fedora - the proposer must have a signed CLA Having examples of good ones from previous versions of Fedora would be awesome! :) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- RazGriz The Solo_-Wing. Diretor de Arte GNU-LIA--= www.gnu-lia.org 2 Tons Comunicação Revista Fedora Brasil Portal O-Gimp -=-=:Quem constrói a realidade é você. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Theme propose reloaded .
RazGriz wrote: Just the final version of my theme proposal concept. =] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Simmetricalreloaded.png While I am impressed by the technical al achievement, this may be a bit to much symmetry for an effective wallpaper. Looking at it for more than a few seconds I start to feel a bit dizzy (but it may also be because it is morning here, I am partly asleep, do not use to drink coffee and worked myself with some photo effects) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Theme propose reloaded .
Hehe, the sun just woke up here too, it is just the concept , lets wait th dead line first round , and if my theme get a chance to proceed to the second round i'll see a wallpaper of it =]. On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:55 AM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RazGriz wrote: Just the final version of my theme proposal concept. =] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Simmetricalreloaded.png While I am impressed by the technical al achievement, this may be a bit to much symmetry for an effective wallpaper. Looking at it for more than a few seconds I start to feel a bit dizzy (but it may also be because it is morning here, I am partly asleep, do not use to drink coffee and worked myself with some photo effects) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- RazGriz The Solo_-Wing. Diretor de Arte GNU-LIA--=www.gnu-lia.org 2 Tons Comunicação Revista Fedora Brasil Portal O-Gimp -=-=:Quem constrói a realidade é você. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F10 theme: Spectrum
In KDE4 it's not hard at all =) http://stalwart.fedorapeople.org/fedorapeople_kde4/1.png http://stalwart.fedorapeople.org/fedorapeople_kde4/2.png (these two files uploaded using drag'n'drop in dolphin) On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Mike Langlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Sourada wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 12:49 -0400, Mike Langlie wrote: How do I upload something directly to my people account? Having a hard time figuring that out. Mike It's actually pretty easy and you can do it even using nautilus, but I find more convenient to use mc. Here are the steps: * open terminal * open mc in terminal * in one panel navigate to the folder you have the file in * switch to the other panel (hit tab) * hit F9, enter the menu, and select shell link * enter the machine name in format: your-fas-account-name.fedorapeople.org in my case it's mso.fedorapeople.org * hit OK. You'll be probably asked for a password to your ssh key - watch the command line to see what's happening * once you're in, navigate into /home/fedora/your-fas-account-name/public_html in my case it's /home/fedora/mso/public_html * switch back to the first panel * select the file you want to upload (either by hitting insert, or highlighting it) * hit F5 to copy, you can leave the form as is and hit OK * watch the progress in the command line * after you're done, close mc and the terminal Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Thanks Martin. Is there a way to do it without using Terminal? (For us lowly Mac users who aren't schooled in such things...) Mike ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- http://scwlab.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F10 artwork schedule - time to close proposals?
Máirín Duffy wrote: Ian Weller wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Máirín Duffy wrote: We've an overwhelming number of proposals for F10 now. Should we close new proposals for F10 so we don't have our focus spread across too many ideas? Give everyone another week. Some people may be working on proposals right now. Good idea! Is everyone okay with closing it on July 21st? Fine by me. I uploaded one more concept (steampunk photography) and do not have anything major on the horizon. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F10 artwork schedule - time to close proposals?
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 22:43 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: Hey folks, We've an overwhelming number of proposals for F10 now. Should we close new proposals for F10 so we don't have our focus spread across too many ideas? Also, we should probably go through the proposals missing the requirements and remind the proposers to fully fill them out or pull them. It would be cool if we could form teams around a core set of proposals and kind of battle it out :) Layer Tennis, anyone? http://layertennis.com/index.php -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F10 artwork schedule - time to close proposals?
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 22:43 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: It would be cool if we could form teams around a core set of proposals and kind of battle it out :) Layer Tennis, anyone? http://layertennis.com/index.php What we could do probably is to get past our egos, find some themes that share a number of common point with each other and join them, keeping the strong points from each. Or just having the power to accept our own proposal is not that great and start playing with a concept proposed by someone else (maybe bringing an idea or two from the abandoned work). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sourada Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:51 PM To: Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers. Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 16:40 -0400, Michael McCumber wrote: To introduce myself I am a very young programmer but I have had experience among designing in Flash Illustrator photoshop ect… I just want to help and contribute toward the Fedora community and designing artwork such as desktops icons images ect would be my strength. Hi, welcome to the team. We usually use open tools here - mainly gimp, inkscape and blender. Since you mentioned you'd like to help with icons (among other things), which is one of my main interests in Fedora, I'd like you to provide some useful links that should help you get started with the icon theme we are designing especially for Fedora: https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/ https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines/OnTheTablePerspective http://mso.fedorapeople.org/screencasts/git%20-%2001%20-%20setting-up% 20the%20repository.mkv https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/WorkingWithGit https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/AddingNewIconSet https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/ToDo You are more than welcome to help either by commenting on these pages/screen-casts or creating new icons :-) Martin ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Koji CLI Auth problem
HI:
I'm using CentOS 5.2 for my Koji Server, but now I have a problem about Koji
CLI auth.
According the wiki document in
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Koji/ServerHowTo , I setup my
Koji-hub、Koji-web、postgresql
, and have a koji web interface.
I also setup my CA Center，and configure the
kojiweb.conf、kojihub.conf、/etc/koji.conf.
But when i execute the koji command with no username and password, the
messages is：
Error: [('PEM routines', 'PEM_read_bio', 'no start line'), ('SSL routines',
'SSL_CTX_use_PrivateKey_file', 'PEM lib')]
why?
thanks.
/etc/koji.conf：
[koji]
;configuration for koji cli tool
;url of XMLRPC server
;server = http://koji.fedoraproject.org/kojihub
server = http://koji.ossii.com.tw/kojihub
;url of web interface
;weburl = http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji
weburl = http://koji.ossii.com.tw/koji
;url of package download site
;pkgurl = http://koji.fedoraproject.org/packages
pkgurl = http://koji.ossii.com.tw/packages
;path to the koji top directory
topdir = /mnt/koji
;configuration for SSL athentication
;client certificate
;cert = ~/.fedora.cert
cert = /etc/kojid/kojiadmin.crt
;certificate of the CA that issued the client certificate
;ca = ~/.fedora-upload-ca.cert
ca = /etc/kojid/kojiadmin.key
;certificate of the CA that issued the HTTP server certificate
;serverca = ~/.fedora-server-ca.cert
serverca = /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl/ossiikojica.crt
kojihub.conf：
Directory /usr/share/koji-hub
SetHandler mod_python
PythonHandler kojixmlrpc
PythonOption DBName koji
PythonOption DBUser kevin
PythonOption DBHost 127.0.0.1
PythonOption KojiDir /mnt/koji
# Kerberos auth configuration
# PythonOption AuthPrincipal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# PythonOption AuthKeytab /etc/koji.keytab
# PythonOption ProxyPrincipals [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# format string for host principals (%s = hostname)
# PythonOption HostPrincipalFormat compile/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
# end Kerberos auth configuration
# SSL client certificate auth configuration
# the client username is the common name of the subject of their
client certificate
PythonOption DNUsernameComponent CN
# separate multiple DNs with |
# PythonOption ProxyDNs /C=US/ST=Massachusetts/O=Example
Org/OU=Example User/CN=example/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PythonOption ProxyDNs /C=TW/ST=Taiwan/O=OSSII/OU=Koji Hub
Server/CN=OSSII Koji Server CA/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
# end SSL client certificate auth configuration
PythonOption LoginCreatesUser On
PythonOption KojiWebURL http://koji.ossii.com.tw/koji
# The domain name that will be appended to Koji usernames
# when creating email notifications
PythonOption EmailDomain example.com
# PythonOption KojiDebug On
# PythonOption KojiTraceback extended
# sending tracebacks to the client isn't very helpful for debugging
xmlrpc
PythonDebug Off
# autoreload is mostly useless to us (it would only reload
kojixmlrpc.py)
PythonAutoReload Off
/Directory
# uncomment this to enable authentication via SSL client certificates
Location /kojihub
SSLOptions +StdEnvVars
/Location
# these options must be enabled globally (in ssl.conf)
SSLVerifyClient require
SSLVerifyDepth 10
kojiweb.conf：
Alias /koji /usr/share/koji-web/scripts/
Directory /usr/share/koji-web/scripts/
# Config for the publisher handler
SetHandler mod_python
PythonHandler mod_python.publisher
# General settings
PythonDebug On
PythonOption KojiHubURL http://koji.ossii.com.tw/kojihub
PythonOption KojiWebURL http://koji.ossii.com.tw/koji
PythonOption KojiPackagesURL http://koji.ossii.com.tw/koji/packages
PythonOption WebPrincipal koji/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PythonOption WebKeytab /etc/httpd.keytab
PythonOption WebCCache /var/tmp/kojiweb.ccache
PythonOption WebCert /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl/kojiweb.crt
PythonOption ClientCA /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl/kojiweb.key
PythonOption KojiHubCA /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl/ossiikojica.crt
PythonOption LoginTimeout 72
# This must be changed before deployment
PythonOption Secret CHANGE_ME
PythonPath sys.path + ['/usr/share/koji-web/lib']
PythonCleanupHandler kojiweb.handlers::cleanup
PythonAutoReload Off
/Directory
Location /koji/login
SSLOptions +StdEnvVars
/Location
# these options must be enabled globally (in ssl.conf)
SSLVerifyClient require
SSLVerifyDepth 10
Alias /koji-static/ /usr/share/koji-web/static/
Directory /usr/share/koji-web/static/
Options None
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory
ssl.conf
SSLCertificateFile /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl/kojihub.crt
SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl/kojihub.key
SSLCACertificateFile /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl/ossiikojica.crt
SSLVerifyClient require
SSLVerifyDepth 10
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[Bug 436520] [RFE] No support for font-stretch above the vcl level
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[Bug 436520] [RFE] No support for font-stretch above the vcl level
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[Bug 454078] Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute
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[Bug 454078] Review Request: khmeros-fonts - Khmer free/libre font set created by Danh Hong of the Cambodian Open Institute
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[Bug 455050] Review Request: padauk-fonts - Padauk font for Burmese and the Myanmar script
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Summary: Review Request: padauk-fonts - Padauk font for Burmese and the Myanmar
script
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455050
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-15 07:40 EST ---
This is starting to look good!
Some suggested changes:
--- padauk-fonts.spec 2008-07-14 22:01:31.0 +0200
+++ padauk-fonts-nim.spec 2008-07-15 13:24:52.0 +0200
@@ -4,11 +4,10 @@
%define archivename ttf-sil-padauk-2.4
-
Name:%{fontname}-fonts
-Version: 2.4
+Version: 2.4
Release: 1%{?dist}
-Summary: Padauk font for Burmese and the Myanmar script
+Summary: Padauk font for Burmese and the Myanmar script
Group: User Interface/X
License: OFL
@@ -21,13 +20,22 @@
BuildArch: noarch
%description
-Padauk is a Myanmar font covering all currently used characters
-in the Myanmar block.The font aims to cover all minority language needs.
-At the moment, these do not extend to stylistic variation needs.
+Padauk is a Myanmar font covering all currently used characters
+in the Myanmar block.The font aims to cover all minority language needs.
+At the moment, these do not extend to stylistic variation needs.
The font is a smart font using a Graphite description.
+
%prep
-%setup -q -n font-source
+%setup -q -c
+for txt in doc/*.txt ; do
+ fold -s $txt $txt.new
+ sed -i 's/\r//' $txt.new
+ touch -r $txt $txt.new
+ mv $txt.new $txt
+done
+
+
%build
# Nothing there
@@ -36,11 +44,10 @@
rm -fr %{buildroot}
install -m 0755 -d %{buildroot}%{fontdir}
-install -m 0644 -p *.ttf %{buildroot}%{fontdir}
-install -m 0755 -d %{buildroot}%{fontconfdir}
-install -m 0644 -p %{SOURCE1} %{buildroot}%{fontconfdir}/61-%{fontname}.conf
-
+install -m 0644 -p font-source/*.ttf %{buildroot}%{fontdir}
+install -m 0755 -d %{buildroot}%{fontconfdir}
+install -m 0644 -p %{SOURCE1} %{buildroot}%{fontconfdir}/65-%{fontname}.conf
%clean
@@ -61,17 +68,19 @@
%files
%defattr(0644,root,root,0755)
+%doc doc/*.txt
+
+%config(noreplace) %{fontconfdir}/65-%{fontname}.conf
+
%dir %{fontdir}/
%{fontdir}/*.ttf
-%config(noreplace) %{fontconfdir}/61-%{fontname}.conf
-%doc ../doc/*.txt
%changelog
* Fri Jul 15 2008 Minto Joseph mvaliyav at redhat.com - 2.4-1
- Changed versioning
-- Added configuration file,
-- Added more description
+- Added configuration file,
+- Added more description
- Added license file
* Fri Jul 11 2008 Minto Joseph mvaliyav at redhat.com - 20080617-1
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[Bug 455050] Review Request: padauk-fonts - Padauk font for Burmese and the Myanmar script
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: padauk-fonts - Padauk font for Burmese and the Myanmar script https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Flag||needinfo?([EMAIL PROTECTED] ||m) --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-15 07:48 EST --- 1. Upstream unfortunately created an archive with no top-dir. While your solution will sort-of work people (davej) are going to complain you leave stray files on the hard drive after a build. When upstream forgets the top-dir in an archive, use the -c %setup option 2. .txt munging to avoid rpmlint complaining of DOS end-of-files (with a fold added in as a bonus, notice how we try to preserve the orginal timestamp so it's build-invariant) 3. use 65 not 61 as fontconfig prefix. As noted on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fontconfig_packaging_tips#Simple_priority_lists 55-64 space is reserved for fonts with common LGC scripts (and myanmar isn't) 4. minor cosmetic whitespace changes (while I was at it) 5. Lastly, please use Padauk not padauk in your fontconfig rules. As you can check in nautilus (or another tool) the fonts declare their name with a leading capital -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 454291] pango-devel.i386 has multilib conflicts with pango-devel.x86_64
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Summary: pango-devel.i386 has multilib conflicts with pango-devel.x86_64
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same results can be achieved with later version (1.20.4-1.fc9) and
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[Bug 454291] pango-devel.i386 has multilib conflicts with pango-devel.x86_64
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: pango-devel.i386 has multilib conflicts with pango-devel.x86_64 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454291 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-15 11:24 EST --- Would just like to add that there is a work around for this problem. Download the RPM (or look in /var/cache/yum/updates/packages after the above yum failure) and force the install via: # rpm -i --force pango-devel-1.20.4-1.fc9.i386.rpm (or whatever version you are trying to install) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 455050] Review Request: padauk-fonts - Padauk font for Burmese and the Myanmar script
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: padauk-fonts - Padauk font for Burmese and the Myanmar script https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEEDINFO|NEW Flag|needinfo?([EMAIL PROTECTED]| |m) | --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-15 12:44 EST --- Thank you for the comments. I have made the changes. Please review.. Source RPM: http://mintojoseph.fedorapeople.org/packages/padauk-fonts-2.4-2.fc8.src.rpm Spec File: http://mintojoseph.fedorapeople.org/packages/padauk-fonts.spec -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 455050] Review Request: padauk-fonts - Padauk font for Burmese and the Myanmar script
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: padauk-fonts - Padauk font for Burmese and the Myanmar script https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added OtherBugsDependingO|177841 | nThis|| AssignedTo|[EMAIL PROTECTED] |[EMAIL PROTECTED] Flag|fedora-review? |fedora-review+ --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-15 14:20 EST --- Since you've done all the requested changes (and I know I can be a difficult reviewer) I'm going to approve the package and sponsor you. Please don't show me wrong and continue to take good care of this package. Your remainning packaging steps are outlined there http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Font_package_lifecycle#3.a don't forget to do them all including the comps and wiki part. The i18n group will probably want to discuss with you the priority given to this package in comps. I hope you'll be interested in packaging more fonts for Fedora in the future. APPROVED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
rpms/padauk-fonts/devel - New directory
Author: kevin Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/padauk-fonts/devel In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/home/fedora/kevin/CVSROOT/admin/tmpcvsY12007/rpms/padauk-fonts/devel Log Message: Directory /cvs/extras/rpms/padauk-fonts/devel added to the repository ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
rpms/padauk-fonts Makefile,NONE,1.1
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rpms/padauk-fonts/devel .cvsignore, NONE, 1.1 Makefile, NONE, 1.1 sources, NONE, 1.1
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NAME := padauk-fonts
SPECFILE = $(firstword $(wildcard *.spec))
define find-makefile-common
for d in common ../common ../../common ; do if [ -f $$d/Makefile.common ] ;
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[Bug 454128] Review Request: Thibault-fonts - Collection of fonts from thibault.org
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: Thibault-fonts - Collection of fonts from thibault.org https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454128 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-15 19:00 EST --- Corrections made to previous post. Mock build provided new rpms from new spec file provided by mdomsch: Spec: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts.spec Rawhide SRPM: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts-0.1-1.fc10.src.rpm FC9 SRPM: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts-0.1-1.fc9.src.rpm FC8 SRPM: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts-0.1-1.fc8.src.rpm FC7 SRPM: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts-0.1-1.fc7.src.rpm Rawhide Essays1743 RPM: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts-essays1743-0.1-1.fc10.noarch.rpm FC9 Essays1743 RPM: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts-essays1743-0.1-1.fc9.noarch.rpm FC8 Essays1743 RPM: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts-essays1743-0.1-1.fc8.noarch.rpm FC7 Essays1743 RPM: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts-essays1743-0.1-1.fc7.noarch.rpm Rawhide Isabella RPM: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts-isabella-0.1-1.fc10.noarch.rpm FC9 Isabella RPM: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts-isabella-0.1-1.fc9.noarch.rpm FC8 Isabella RPM: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts-isabella-0.1-1.fc8.noarch.rpm FC7 Isabella RPM: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts-isabella-0.1-1.fc7.noarch.rpm Rawhide Rockets RPM: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts-rockets-0.1-1.fc10.noarch.rpm FC9 Rockets RPM: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts-rockets-0.1-1.fc9.noarch.rpm FC8 Rockets RPM: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts-rockets-0.1-1.fc8.noarch.rpm FC7 Rockets RPM: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts-rockets-0.1-1.fc7.noarch.rpm Rawhide StayPuft RPM: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts-staypuft-0.1-1.fc10.noarch.rpm FC9 StayPuft RPM: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts-staypuft-0.1-1.fc9.noarch.rpm FC8 StayPuft RPM: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts-staypuft-0.1-1.fc8.noarch.rpm FC7 StayPuft RPM: http://www.oslb.net/fonts/thibault-fonts-staypuft-0.1-1.fc7.noarch.rpm Lyos Gemini Norezel -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
New front: khmeros-fonts
Greetingz list! New fonts to fedora just arrived: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/pending/khmeros-fonts-5.0-3.fc9 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/pending/khmeros-fonts-5.0-3.fc8 The Khmer OS fonts include Khmer and Latin alphabets, and they have equivalent sizes for Khmer and English alphabets, so that when texts mix both it is not necessary to have different point sizes for the text in each language. Thanks a lot for big help, Nicolas! Michal ___ Fedora-fonts-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list
Re: New front: khmeros-fonts
Le mardi 15 juillet 2008 à 13:36 +0200, Michal Nowak a écrit : Greetingz list! New fonts to fedora just arrived: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/pending/khmeros-fonts-5.0-3.fc9 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/pending/khmeros-fonts-5.0-3.fc8 The Khmer OS fonts include Khmer and Latin alphabets, and they have equivalent sizes for Khmer and English alphabets, so that when texts mix both it is not necessary to have different point sizes for the text in each language. Thanks a lot for big help, Nicolas! No problem. I must say it's always a pleasure to work with motivated packagers, and you had the good taste to select a much needed font set in the wishlist (not the easiest to package, congratulation). You probably want to talk with Jens Petersen (juhp) to check if the Internationalization project does not want some of those fonts on by default distro-wide BTW. Please continue packaging fonts! I'd probably work a little more on the package descriptions, so not two of them are 100% the same, and add a few fontconfig rules in the lot, but I'm a perfectionnist (in case you've not noticed yet). Lastly (and this applies to other new packagers) you can drop all the blue frames from a font wiki page when the font is done and published. The blue frames are only there as redaction help, so you don't need to keep them long-term. Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée ___ Fedora-fonts-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list
Re: Firmware
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:04 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: Been playing with how I'd make the kernel package deal with the new 'make firmware_install' stuff. Currently looks something like this. The patches have now hit Linus' tree, so I've committed the specfile parts too. As soon as we update to 2.6.26-git1, we'll get a separate kernel-firmware package which is required by the main kernel binary package. I suspect that (for now) we should make the kernel binary packages depend on kernel-firmware? Done. There are some firmwares which are under GPL, so even the Free Software or nothing! folks can have _some_ form of kernel-firmware package. I don't think there's a problem with requiring it. I'll leave it to Alex to submit for review a kernel-firmware-libre package which Provides: kernel-firmware and which actually builds the various firmware files from source :) Should the package own the /lib/firmware/ directory? Not done. Ideally we'll want kernel-firmware to be a .noarch.rpm, but we can't get that until we start to build it from a separate srpm. Done. -- dwmw2 ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
Fedora 9 Installation on i686
Mo 08/14/08 How do you download and install Fedora 9 on an i686 32bit laptop(IBM ThinkPad A31) Installed: Hardware: Intel Pentium 4M Processor:1.60 GHz Software: Fedora 8 Hard disk: 30 GB Kernel: 2.6.25.9-40.fc8 Memory: so dim 256 MB Network: 10/100 Ethernet i386 direct download install stopped at 35% - reason unknown. When I thought the laptop was an i386. What is the maximum upgrade possible for the IBM ThinkPad A31? ___ Fedora-laptop-list mailing list Fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-laptop-list
Re: modprobe blacklist
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 5:32 AM, john f jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To use gpsbabel with my Garmin Venture Hc gps receiver I must first remove the FC9 builtin garmin_gps usb module. As su this works: /sbin/rmmod garmin_gps My question: How can I use the blacklist feature of modprobe to do this automatically? Adding the line: blacklist garmin_gps to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and/or modprobe.conf.dist doesn't work. Thanks, John Jarvis -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Hi John Jarvis! I would look carefully at the output of lsmod before and after the use of rmmod. Likey there is another companion module you need to blacklist to make this work. To make one of my wireless modems work for example I neede to blacklist oronco and oronco_cs to get the job done. Good Hunting! Tod -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: that old GNU/Linux argument
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 23:25 -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: On Jul 14, 2008, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip for brevity Except that what you call Linux software isn't actually for Linux. Have you ever heard of Nexenta (GNU/kOpenSolaris), Debian GNU/kFreeBSD, and even UnixWare? If you take *GNU* libc, rebuild it to target a different kernel while exporting the same ABI, and voila, you can drop Linux entirely from what you call a Linux Operating System, and pretty much all applications will still work just the same. Because they're not applications for Linux. They're applications for GNU libc. They couldn't care less that they're running on top of the kernel Linux. For them, the kernel is irrelevant. Next frequently raised fallacious objections? Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the sound of a shoe dropping. [applause] That was a fabulous exchange, very well stated, very well explained. Alexandre, very impressed with your ability to avoid vitriolic and abusive tone. Very impressed. Andy -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: console-kit: what is /proc/16750/environ
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Dan Thurman wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 08:39 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: This appears consistenently in my /var/log/messages file. What IS this process and how do I fix this? = Jul 11 08:24:53 bronze console-kit-daemon[7946]: WARNING: Couldn't read /proc/16750/environ: Error reading file '/proc/16750/environ': No such process # man proc: /proc/[number]/environ This file contains the environment for the process. The entries are separated by null bytes (’\0’), and there may be a null bytes at the end. Thus, to print out the environment of process 1, you would do: [... etc.] Also: # ls -l /proc/[number]/exe # cat /proc/[number]/cmdline Ok... I wasn't explict enough. I am getting this message in the system logs when I reboot the system. Why is it even appearing? Is this normal or what? i've been seeing the same thing in /var/log/messages: ... Jul 14 13:35:58 localhost console-kit-daemon[2236]: WARNING: Couldn't read /proc/30830/environ: Error reading file '/proc/30830/environ': No such process ... so what is console-kit-daemon looking for? and i see nothing in bugzilla about this. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Wireless USB
Hello all. I have a wireless USB adapter based on the Intersil Prism 3 chip set, but it isn't being recognized by Fedora 9. Is there anything that I need to do to get it working? I went to the website for hostap and it said that it was included in the kernel since 2.6.14 so in theory this should be working. Thanks for any help you can give me. Isaac MacFarlane -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9: dbus problems with /home on nfs
Thanks for all your input, see comments below On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 04:44:18PM -0400, Todd Denniston wrote: I think we kind of lost the OP's problem. John Austin wrote, On 07/14/2008 03:39 PM: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 08:06 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 13:07 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 14 July 2008 12:47:25 Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:21:28 +0200 David Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else seen this? OP summary:[ /var/log/messages shows kernel: dbus-daemon[22141]: segfault at 1c ip 7fa454a5f2e0 sp 7fff5ca79fa8 error 6 in dbus-daemon[7fa454a31000+4c000] after gdm login of users on NFS. ] Yes, that's a good summary of a bad situation :) I have noticed some kind of problem with logging in via GDM when I use a user with an NFS home, but never investigated exactly what the problem was because it is usually only by accident that I try it. Do you [or the OP] use soft mounts? I have seen enormous problems, no matter which OS/version is acting as the server, if the clients are soft mounting home with nfs, and it is worse if the home directories are being automounted. I didn't use automount for /home, which I want permanently mounted anyway. But I had the entry in /etc/fstab just withg defaults as mount option. 'man 5 nfs' seems to indicate that 'hard' is the default. I'll add hard,intr anyway and see if that solves the problem. Could the OP's problem be that some part of gnome/kde/gdm/kdm is attempting to have dbus look at something in the users home dir which is an auto/soft mounted dir and either not finding the file or getting an IO error causes dbus-daemon to seg fault? [if the answer is yes, then we have narrowed down the problem, and an appropriate bug needs to be put in the system about dbus as being a daemon it should never die with segfault.] I'm starting to suspect the gvfs system, which tries to mount stuff under $HOME/.gvfs and I don't see this mount showing up for a user with $HOME on nfs, only for users with local homes. I could understand that it may not have sufficient permissions to mount something under a remote nfs mount, but I would expect an error message; the logs don't seem to indicate any messages about gvfs. As for all the other comments about nfs problems: probably true, but it doesn't explain why Fedora = 8, RHEL, and Solaris all seem to be perfectly happy with the network and nfs setup. It's certainly a new problem in fedora 9, or a new feature in Fedora 9 (like gvfs?) triggers the problem. Anyway, I have a new set of options to test, to see if that solves anything. Thanks to everyone who has resonded so far. David Jansen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: modprobe blacklist
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:05 PM, Tod Merley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 5:32 AM, john f jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To use gpsbabel with my Garmin Venture Hc gps receiver I must first remove the FC9 builtin garmin_gps usb module. As su this works: /sbin/rmmod garmin_gps My question: How can I use the blacklist feature of modprobe to do this automatically? Adding the line: blacklist garmin_gps to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and/or modprobe.conf.dist doesn't work. Thanks, John Jarvis -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Hi John Jarvis! I would look carefully at the output of lsmod before and after the use of rmmod. Likey there is another companion module you need to blacklist to make this work. To make one of my wireless modems work for example I neede to blacklist oronco and oronco_cs to get the job done. Good Hunting! Tod Hi Again John Jarvis! I just noticed that Ubuntu has the garmin_gps blacklisted normally - very much as you wrote. I would check your typing, and the ownership and permissions of your edited file (hopefully you did a permissions saving copy before you edited the blacklist file. I see no reason blacklisting would not work with a proper edit of the blacklist file. Good Hunting! Tod -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Display config
I am running a laptop from Acer with a intel graphic card (and I am using intel as driver) I set the display as LCD 1280x800 In the available resolutions I find only 1024x768, 800x600 and 640x480. My Xorg file is: # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display Section ServerLayout Identifier single head configuration Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section InputDevice # keyboard added by rhpxl Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout it EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 ModelNameLCD Panel 1280x800 HorizSync31.5 - 50.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 65.0 Option dpms EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver intel EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Any way display works fine I tried aldo to install a second external video, as you can see from conf file: I am confused, as I understand that you can choose only one resolution if you connect a second monitor to the available VGA connector.Is it true??? -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Program to compress AVI files
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:41 AM, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a screencast, taken with a program to capture the screen as a video. Which will probably mean that you don't want to drop the resolution down, at all. But, can you drop the frame rate? Unless the screen cast includes live action video, you can probably reduce the frame rate quite a lot. And what do you want to play the file with? If it's for others to play, you want to use an encoding scheme that they can play back. There's all manner of schemes available to you, MPEG (encumbered, but widely playable), Ogg Theora (unencumbered, but probably not easily viewable if you don't use Linux), and many others. Thanks, Tim. Since there is no action video, I will reduce the frame rate, and encoding the screen cast as MPEG, since the other person uses MS Windows. Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9 Help creating jigdo file
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008, Frank Murphy wrote: Having checked man jigdo-file I still can get my head around making an updates iso of the F9-Full-DVD. for what it's worth (and the value has probably decreased measurably since i first wrote it), i summarized jigdo operation back here: http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Getting_Fedora_respins_with_Jigdo i should probably take the time to update that unless the new official fedora jigdo page is perfectly acceptable, at which point my page would be unnecessary. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: microphone not recording (solved)
Hi. I don't know what solved the problem, but I included the +20dB bust and microphone capture options. And also, after I could see the input device option in PulseAudio Volume Control. Thanks Marcelo stan wrote: Marcelo M. Garcia wrote: Hi. I have been trying to get my mic work with Skype and Fedora 9. Skype only works when the device in Sound In is set to ICH6,0, not the Default Device (default). The test call works, but I cannot hear my voice. Don't know anything about Skype. Have read there are some problems in passing. The default (System- preferences- Hardware- sound- Sound Capture) is set to ALSA. The default mixer is Intel ICH6 (Alsa mixer). I tried to use the Sound Recorder tool to see if the mic was working, but when I try to use, the file is saved, but again no sound. I think the problem could be in permission to the device. Which one? /dev/dsp? I don't think so. This is for OSS. Thanks Marcelo Bring up alsamixer (either at a command line or via the menu) and hit F4. You should see the capture screen. Turn on the mic and boost and give the mic some volume. That should give you capture sound. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: C++ trouble
2008/7/14 Arkadiy Butermanov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If there is anybody who knows C++, please write to me over ICQ (449-442-806). I've some troubles with my program. 2-3 questions. I suggest contacting [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your questions. -Tom Tom Browder Niceville, Florida USA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Program to compress AVI files
Paul Smith wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:41 AM, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's all manner of schemes available to you, MPEG (encumbered, but widely playable), Ogg Theora (unencumbered, but probably not easily viewable if you don't use Linux), and many others. Thanks, Tim. Since there is no action video, I will reduce the frame rate, and encoding the screen cast as MPEG, since the other person uses MS Windows. Paul I've never had a lot of luck dropping the frame rate for something that large. It won't hurt to try. If this is a screencast have you made sure the other person's monitor runs at that resolution? I'm sure it does, but I'd had to have you drop the frame rate and still have the image too big for their screen. -- Libenter homines id quod volunt credunt -- Caius Julius Caesar Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Cant use Crystal Eye webcam on my Acer Laptop with Fedora 9
2008/7/11 Rohan Kulkarni [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/10 Rohan Kulkarni [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/7 Rohan Kulkarni [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/7 Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/7/6 Ric Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 21:02 +0530, Rohan Kulkarni wrote: I installed kernel-devel and the finally installed the linux-uvc driver :) but still the webcam is not working :( Please don't top post. It screws up the reading of the progression of the problem and responses. If you've read other posts, you may note that everyone else will respond at the bottom. It's easier on the next guy with the same problem who google searches for answers. Thanx, Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar https://oar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 336-254-1339 - -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list I am back to my F9 system, and it is pratically a standard F9 with no additional drivers My Browser Hardware sees the webcam as SuYin Acer CristallEye webcam with uvcvideo driver. This is the complete output of my lsmod command /sbin/lsmod Module Size Used by bridge 46104 0 bnep 14592 2 rfcomm 34576 4 l2cap 22272 16 bnep,rfcomm bluetooth 47588 5 bnep,rfcomm,l2cap autofs420356 2 fuse 41116 5 sunrpc151412 3 cpufreq_ondemand 10124 1 acpi_cpufreq 11532 1 loop 16772 0 dm_multipath 18056 0 ipv6 221660 33 snd_hda_intel 336928 6 snd_seq_dummy 6660 0 arc45760 2 tg3 103812 0 snd_seq_oss30364 0 snd_seq_midi_event 9600 1 snd_seq_oss iTCO_wdt 13476 0 snd_seq48448 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq_device 10124 3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq snd_pcm_oss42496 0 snd_mixer_oss 16768 2 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm67076 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss firewire_ohci 21636 0 snd_timer 21640 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 11400 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm snd_hwdep 10500 1 snd_hda_intel i915 85636 2 video 20368 0 output 6656 1 video i2c_i801 11920 0 sdhci 16908 0 uvcvideo 49416 0 compat_ioctl32 5120 1 uvcvideo videodev 30208 1 uvcvideo battery14084 0 firewire_core 34464 1 firewire_ohci ac 8068 0 button 1 0 acer_wmi 12596 0 wmi 9640 1 acer_wmi ecb 6528 2 crypto_blkcipher 17924 1 ecb ricoh_mmc 7552 0 iTCO_vendor_support 6916 1 iTCO_wdt iwl3945 146140 0 mac80211 181992 1 iwl3945 cfg80211 25096 2 iwl3945,mac80211 snd48312 19 snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep soundcore 9288 2 snd drm 145508 3 i915 i2c_algo_bit8964 1 i915 mmc_core 40604 1 sdhci i2c_core 20628 4 i915,i2c_i801,drm,i2c_algo_bit v4l1_compat15364 2 uvcvideo,videodev pcspkr 6272 0 joydev 12608 0 crc_itu_t 5760 1 firewire_core sg 31028 0 sr_mod 17064 0 cdrom 32796 1 sr_mod ahci 26760 2 ata_piix 20100 0 libata127328 2 ahci,ata_piix dm_snapshot18468 0 dm_zero 5632 0 dm_mirror 26116 0 dm_mod 48980 9 dm_multipath,dm_snapshot,dm_zero,dm_mirror usb_storage76040 2 sd_mod 25624 6 scsi_mod 120948 5 sg,sr_mod,libata,usb_storage,sd_mod ext3 108552 2 jbd40852 1 ext3 mbcache10116 1 ext3 uhci_hcd 22928 0 ohci_hcd 22404 0 ehci_hcd 32268 0 and I am running my system on
Re: microphone not recording (solved)
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 11:34 +0100, Marcelo M. Garcia wrote: I don't know what solved the problem, but I included the +20dB bust and microphone capture options. I dunno about you, but all us engineers want to know what the zero dB reference level is for busts. Must have been pretty big to lose the microphone in them... ;-) -- Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: compile graphical ssh - GFTP
Hello Aldo, On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:51:57 -0700 Aldo Foot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 17:36 -0700, Aldo Foot wrote: I'm trying to install gtk+-2.13.3 in order to install GFTP (a graphical SSH tool). Just for an exercise? Unless you want to do that, you don't have to compile it. Yes. Something like that. I want to be able to compile the thing in some other system. I thought my F8 box would give me a stable test ground. GFTP (a graphical *FTP* tool, as the name says, with some other protocols, too), already exists as a precompiled package, and can simply be yum installed. I did installed the package yum provides. It works fine. I use port 22 with SSH2. So -is there anyone who has played with this GFTP source before? GFTP is a pretty dead project tome, the author is not responding (at least, was few years ago) and not reacting to bug reports and patch submission. Moreover, it's too easy to make it crash with reproducible and simple scenarii, thus I recently switched to filezilla, which is much more mature and stable. Regards, -- wwp signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: modprobe blacklist
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 23:05 -0700, Tod Merley wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 5:32 AM, john f jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To use gpsbabel with my Garmin Venture Hc gps receiver I must first remove the FC9 builtin garmin_gps usb module. As su this works: /sbin/rmmod garmin_gps My question: How can I use the blacklist feature of modprobe to do this automatically? Adding the line: blacklist garmin_gps to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and/or modprobe.conf.dist doesn't work. Thanks, John Jarvis -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Hi John Jarvis! I would look carefully at the output of lsmod before and after the use of rmmod. Likey there is another companion module you need to blacklist to make this work. To make one of my wireless modems work for example I neede to blacklist oronco and oronco_cs to get the job done. Good Hunting! Tod Thank you Tod: lsmod does show two modules are loaded: garmin_gps, usbserial Adding both of them to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist doesn't prevent loading them when the GPS receiver is connected. Where do hotplug scripts live? John -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: setroub;eshoot problem
max bianco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went to start setroubleshoot, Applications-System Tools-SE Linux Troubleshooter and I get this message: connection failed at /var/run/setroubleshoot/setroubleshoo_tserver. Connection refused #ls -lZ /var/run/setroubleshoot/setroubleshoot_server srw-rw-rw- root root system_u:object_r:setroubleshoot_var_run_t /var/run/setroubleshoot/setroubleshoot_server That looks right. Is it F8 or F9? SETroubleshoot is usually on, do you remember why you turned it off? This is F9 and I didn't turm setroubleshoot off - not on purpose.anyway }-P If I look in System-Administration-Services at setroubleshootd, it says that it is enabled but the status is unknown Steve. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
F9 and gnupg2.0.9
I am trying to make gnupg2.0.9 but I am running into the following error: gcc-g -O2 -Wall -Wno-pointer-sign -Wpointer-arith -o gpg2 gpg.o server.o build-packet.o compress.o free-packet.o getkey.o keydb.o keyring.o seskey.o kbnode.o mainproc.o armor.o mdfilter.o textfilter.o progress.o misc.o openfile.o keyid.o parse-packet.o cpr.o plaintext.o sig-check.o keylist.o pkglue.o pkclist.o skclist.o pubkey-enc.o passphrase.o seckey-cert.o encr-data.o cipher.o encode.o sign.o verify.o revoke.o decrypt.o keyedit.o dearmor.o import.o export.o trustdb.o tdbdump.o tdbio.o delkey.o keygen.o helptext.o keyserver.o photoid.o call-agent.o card-util.o exec.o ../common/libcommon.a ../jnlib/libjnlib.a ../gl/libgnu.a ../common/libgpgrl.a -lresolv -lgcrypt -lgpg-error -lassuan -lgpg-error compress.o: In function `do_compress': /home/gps/Downloads/gnupg-2.0.9/g10/compress.c:107: undefined reference to `deflate' compress.o: In function `init_compress': /home/gps/Downloads/gnupg-2.0.9/g10/compress.c:80: undefined reference to `deflateInit_' compress.o: In function `init_uncompress': /home/gps/Downloads/gnupg-2.0.9/g10/compress.c:146: undefined reference to `inflateInit_' compress.o: In function `do_uncompress': /home/gps/Downloads/gnupg-2.0.9/g10/compress.c:196: undefined reference to `inflate' compress.o: In function `init_uncompress': /home/gps/Downloads/gnupg-2.0.9/g10/compress.c:146: undefined reference to `inflateInit2_' compress.o: In function `init_compress': /home/gps/Downloads/gnupg-2.0.9/g10/compress.c:80: undefined reference to `deflateInit2_' compress.o: In function `compress_filter': /home/gps/Downloads/gnupg-2.0.9/g10/compress.c:264: undefined reference to `inflateEnd' /home/gps/Downloads/gnupg-2.0.9/g10/compress.c:273: undefined reference to `deflateEnd' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [gpg2] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/gps/Downloads/gnupg-2.0.9/g10' make: *** [check-recursive] Error 1 Has anyone run into this problem or know what might be the cause of it? TIA, Greg Sieranski -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Fedora 9 is not recognised
I received Fedora 9 from a Linux magazine.If I load it in my DVD rom it is not recognised.I am not able to proceed further. Is the media not good or the software? Ramachandran.C -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9 'git' source kernel ??
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 16:03:40 -0400, William Case [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that the bragging is over: I would really like to find a logical way to climb into the functioning of the basic kernel while keeping blind allies and logic traps to a minimum. I would use all suggestions and assistance that comes my way in order to get started properly . A long time ago when I wanted to learn more about vms at a low level I added some syscalls to the OS. They were simple functions, but things we had use for. We had source on microfiche along with the generated binary code, so that we could do binary patches to the OS even though we couldn't rebuild from source. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9 is not recognised
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I received Fedora 9 from a Linux magazine.If I load it in my DVD rom it is not recognised.I am not able to proceed further. Is the media not good or the software? Ramachandran.C I'd bet it's the media. Boot into another OS and check the md5sum on it if you can. Is your system capable of booting the DVD? Is BIOS set as the first boot device? If not, it won't boot the DVD if there's an OS on the hard drive already. -- Libenter homines id quod volunt credunt -- Caius Julius Caesar Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Intel Soundmax integrated adapter No Sound
Seems that root can see the sound system. Tried adding user to all groups that seemed to apply to sound but still do not get any sound as aregular user. Robert McBroom -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.org https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=277136topic_id=59051forum=10#forumpost277136 If you think, this is spam, please report this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and/or blame [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 and gnupg2.0.9
Sieranski, Greg wrote: I am trying to make gnupg2.0.9 but I am running into the following error: gnupg2-2.0.9 is already built and included in the distro, why are you trying to build it manually? -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
--- On Mon, 7/14/08, Kevin Kofler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kevin Kofler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions? To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 3:47 AM Antonio Olivares olivares14031 at yahoo.com writes: A Because Fedora includes Firmware and those guys don't. Bullsh*t! Cool :) BLAG 7 ships: * the original Fedora 7 kernels as the default and kernel-libre only as an option, * the following firmwares: asterisk-firmware, atmel-firmware, ivtv-firmware, iwl3945-firmware, iwl4965-firmware, iwlwifi-firmware (old version of iwl3945-firmware), ql2100-firmware, ql2200-firmware, ql23xx-firmware and ql2400-firmware, all with License: Redistributable, no modification permitted * zd1211-firmware which claims to be GPLv2, but with no source available. So the only difference between Fedora and BLAG in their current state is that BLAG is 2 releases out of date, which also implies there are no security updates from Fedora anymore for the software they ship, and I wouldn't rely on BLAG for security updates if I were you. For example, there is no bind update for the recent DNS security issue, nor any other updates since June 13. I consider it completely irresponsible to recommend a distribution whose current release has not received ANY security updates for a month! Kevin Kofler -- I do not have BLAG installed, but it sure was good to find out what they include :) Thanks Kevin. I did not know what they included. I only wondered why it was more freer than Fedora. Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Lava Octopus 550 kernel crash
Tod Merley wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Seann Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, This is my first post to the list, but the short of the story is, I got a lava octopus 550 (since it does work in linux) and I have been having problems with it, namely it only shows 4/10 total serial ports (two onboard Intel, 8 on the PCI based Octopus 550) and even after working across a few of the sites (Lava's how to, a few different setserial sites, and so forth) and I don't know who to run this past, since it looks like a problem, either on my side or not. I am including as much information as I can think of for this. O/S Fedora 9 x86_64 dual Intel quad core E5430 Hi Seann Clark, Serial ports have an interesting way of taking up a lot of time. Oh well. I would need to look into this much further, I hope someone with current experiance can chime in. Have you recompiled the kernel to allow it to see your additional ports (see link)? : This is a vanilla Fedora 9 kernel, I haven't done hacking on that portion yet, since it came up perfectly without mod on the driver/hardware portion of this. http://www.support.lavalink.com/index.php?id=471 I am suspicious that you have since I see this from your lspci: 0e:01.0 Serial controller: Lava Computer mfg Inc Lava Octo A (rev 03) (prog-if 02 [16550]) Subsystem: Lava Computer mfg Inc Lava Octo A Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 16 I/O ports at 4418 [size=8] I/O ports at 4410 [size=8] I/O ports at 4408 [size=8] I/O ports at 4400 [size=8] Kernel driver in use: serial 0e:01.1 Serial controller: Lava Computer mfg Inc Lava Octo B (rev 03) (prog-if 02 [16550]) Subsystem: Lava Computer mfg Inc Lava Octo B Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 16 I/O ports at 4438 [size=8] I/O ports at 4430 [size=8] I/O ports at 4428 [size=8] I/O ports at 4420 [size=8] Kernel driver in use: serial And I assume you have placed the small script in your /etc/rc.d/rc.local as suggested in the above article. I was looking over that and did do the script as it suggested, and I didn't see anything but the four original ports listed on first boot. The problem is, three of the four are showing the Lava, with the same port ID's, and one is my onboard. At the least it should be my onboard having two ports, and the Lava having the other 2 (up to 8 when I get that working right) If I were you I would look into how to move the interrupt used and perhaps spread them out a bit (use differant interrupts for each of the two ports). Good Hunting! Tod I would have to do a bit of hunting on the IRQ side to get that sorted, including on my hardware so I will see what I can get. Thanks for the suggestions so far~ Seann -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 and gnupg2.0.9
Rex Dieter wrote: Sieranski, Greg wrote: I am trying to make gnupg2.0.9 but I am running into the following error: gnupg2-2.0.9 is already built and included in the distro, why are you trying to build it manually? -- Rex Thanks, Did not realize 2.0.9 had been put in yum -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9: dbus problems with /home on nfs
David Jansen wrote, On 07/15/2008 04:32 AM: Thanks for all your input, see comments below On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 04:44:18PM -0400, Todd Denniston wrote: I think we kind of lost the OP's problem. John Austin wrote, On 07/14/2008 03:39 PM: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 08:06 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 13:07 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 14 July 2008 12:47:25 Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:21:28 +0200 David Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else seen this? OP summary:[ /var/log/messages shows kernel: dbus-daemon[22141]: segfault at 1c ip 7fa454a5f2e0 sp 7fff5ca79fa8 error 6 in dbus-daemon[7fa454a31000+4c000] after gdm login of users on NFS. ] Yes, that's a good summary of a bad situation :) SNIP I'm starting to suspect the gvfs system, which tries to mount stuff under $HOME/.gvfs and I don't see this mount showing up for a user with $HOME on nfs, only for users with local homes. I could understand that it may not have sufficient permissions to mount something under a remote nfs mount, but I would expect an error message; the logs don't seem to indicate any messages about gvfs. As for all the other comments about nfs problems: probably true, but it doesn't explain why Fedora = 8, RHEL, and Solaris all seem to be perfectly happy with the network and nfs setup. It's certainly a new problem in fedora 9, or a new feature in Fedora 9 (like gvfs?) triggers the problem. I think I did hear about this gvfs (as a default setup) thing being new in F9 and it was causing folks problems when they tried to backup. I don't know how, but I would try disabling/killing gvfs for a while and see if that fixed it. grump Red Hat has explicitly indicated they will not be making _desktop_ distros for a while, and Fedora seems to be (probably accidentally) making things hard* for those folks who need a desktop distro in a networked environment. *gvfs, gdm configuration ability getting more difficult ( a)need set a particular message, b) need to have no users listed on the screen at login, except the one that JUST put in the smart card) and a few other items that break with NFS/NIS/LDAP in use that I am forgetting right now. /grump Anyway, I have a new set of options to test, to see if that solves anything. Thanks to everyone who has resonded so far. David Jansen -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: setroub;eshoot problem
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: max bianco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went to start setroubleshoot, Applications-System Tools-SE Linux Troubleshooter and I get this message: connection failed at /var/run/setroubleshoot/setroubleshoo_tserver. Connection refused #ls -lZ /var/run/setroubleshoot/setroubleshoot_server srw-rw-rw- root root system_u:object_r:setroubleshoot_var_run_t /var/run/setroubleshoot/setroubleshoot_server That looks right. Is it F8 or F9? SETroubleshoot is usually on, do you remember why you turned it off? This is F9 and I didn't turm setroubleshoot off - not on purpose.anyway }-P If I look in System-Administration-Services at setroubleshootd, it says that it is enabled but the status is unknown It usually runs in the background and only wakes up when needed, however you should stil be able to run it from Applications--System Tools--SELinux Troubleshooter with out a problem. I can in fact do that here. Do you have all current updates? Do you know what version of policy you are running? Have you recently installed any custom policy? Did you switch SELinux to permissive recently ? I assume you have stopped and restarted the service. Which kernel are you running? Have you checked for bugs filed against setroubleshoot? There are quite a few bugs filed against it, maybe one of these is related to the problem your having. Try these commands: rpm -qa 'selinux*' rpm -qa 'setrouble*' sestatus uname -a Post the results, with that info there might be more help to be had. -- If opinions were really like assholes we'd each have just one -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: modprobe blacklist
john f jarvis wrote, On 07/15/2008 08:44 AM: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 23:05 -0700, Tod Merley wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 5:32 AM, john f jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To use gpsbabel with my Garmin Venture Hc gps receiver I must first remove the FC9 builtin garmin_gps usb module. As su this works: /sbin/rmmod garmin_gps My question: How can I use the blacklist feature of modprobe to do this automatically? Adding the line: blacklist garmin_gps to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and/or modprobe.conf.dist doesn't work. Thanks, John Jarvis -- Hi John Jarvis! I would look carefully at the output of lsmod before and after the use of rmmod. Likey there is another companion module you need to blacklist to make this work. To make one of my wireless modems work for example I neede to blacklist oronco and oronco_cs to get the job done. Good Hunting! Tod Thank you Tod: lsmod does show two modules are loaded: garmin_gps, usbserial Adding both of them to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist doesn't prevent loading them when the GPS receiver is connected. Where do hotplug scripts live? John are you booting with the garmin plugged in? I found (over the years) that if you want things in /etc/mod* to take effect at boot, you need to rebuild the initrd after making the mod. An alternative, for testing purposes, is just rm/mv the module for now. -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Intel Soundmax integrated adapter No Sound
Robert McBroom (TNWestTex) wrote: Seems that root can see the sound system. Tried adding user to all groups that seemed to apply to sound but still do not get any sound as aregular user. Robert McBroom Download and run the script at http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh Then post the link back here to enable others to see the output. If you just want to run it for personal use run it as ./alsa-info.sh --no-upload -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
sshd fails to start
Hello, When I try to start sshd I have the following message: Starting of sshd:sshd: WARNING: Default configuration file /etc/ssh2/sshd2_config does not exist : WARING: ssh_privkey_read from /etc/ssh2/hostkey failed : FATAL: Unable to load any hostkeys Before this message he starts creating the rsa and dsa keys in /etc/ssh How can I solv this problem? Thanks for your help -- Roland Brouwers C.A.T. bvba -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: sshd fails to start
roland wrote: Hello, When I try to start sshd I have the following message: Starting of sshd:sshd: WARNING: Default configuration file /etc/ssh2/sshd2_config does not exist : WARING: ssh_privkey_read from /etc/ssh2/hostkey failed : FATAL: Unable to load any hostkeys Before this message he starts creating the rsa and dsa keys in /etc/ssh How can I solve this problem? From the error message it is looking for the files in ssh2, instead of ssh. I am not sure why this is. Did they change things in F9, or did you install ssh from something besides the Fedora RPM? Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KWin (KDE4 from rawhide) using way too much CPU (nvidia driver problem)
Kevin Kofler said the following on 07/13/2008 04:49 AM: Vini Engel vini at fugspbr.org writes: When I enable Desktop Effects kwin and xorg take about 30% of the CPU each. kwin sometimes takes as much as 80%, this is slowing down my machine heaps. Although I could just disable the desktop effects and resolve the problem I would rather give feedback to any KDE/Fedora developers out there and assist with the resolution of this issue. My machine is an Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9300 @ 2.50GHz with 4GB of RAM and a nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400M GS with 128MB. The proprietary nvidia driver is known to have absymal performance, and we can't fix it because it's proprietary. Blame nVidia. There's nothing we can do about it. Well, it may not be the best driver out there but before Fedora 9 it did work very well for me. The fact is that my problem is not really related to performance, the overall performance of my machine is pretty good. The problem is that xorg and kwin use too much CPU, it doesn't bother me much apart from using more battery. If it doesn't jump up to 80% my machine goes ok, I have disabled some of the desktop effects and it improved. I think we cannot blame nVidia for this because what is being used here is the CPU and not the GPU. Unless there is clear proof that their drive actually causes it to happen the problem to me will be related to the way KDE4 is handling OpenGL for its 'special' effects. Vini -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 07:40 -0400, Mark Haney wrote: Personally, I think the demand by Stallman, and others to call Linux 'GNU/Linux' is just stupid and childish. As if changing the name will change the nature of the system. While I am an advocate of free and open source software, and agree with some of his ideas, Stallman needs a bloody valium. To me he's a lot like Jack Thompson, foams at the mouth over the silliest things. While I personally think RMS is, well, let's say over zealous and leave it at that... He is what I'd call a necessary evil. He swings the pendulum so far the one direction that it keeps the whole thing balanced. Irritating as he and his fellows may be, they do serve a needed purpose. -- Using Linux since 11/91 | http://www.linux.org Linux user #29402 | http://counter.li.org/ Fedora Linux| http://www.fedoraproject.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: sshd fails to start
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:00:44 +0200, Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: roland wrote: Hello, When I try to start sshd I have the following message: Starting of sshd:sshd: WARNING: Default configuration file /etc/ssh2/sshd2_config does not exist : WARING: ssh_privkey_read from /etc/ssh2/hostkey failed : FATAL: Unable to load any hostkeys Before this message he starts creating the rsa and dsa keys in /etc/ssh How can I solve this problem? From the error message it is looking for the files in ssh2, instead of ssh. I am not sure why this is. Did they change things in F9, or did you install ssh from something besides the Fedora RPM? It is a standart installation K12ltsp But I wanted to sync 2 servers with rsync without asking for a password. So I generated a key with ssh-keygen and suddenly he created a .ssh2. I suppose I don't need this ssh2 but I don't how to remove it. I found that in /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S55sshd this is generated if a dsa_key or rsa_key exists in /etc/ssh/. So I removed those keys. But still he creates those keys when sshd is started and he looks then for the ssh2_config file. ?? Roland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9 Help creating jigdo file
Robert P. J. Day wrote: i should probably take the time to update that unless the new official fedora jigdo page is perfectly acceptable, at which point my page would be unnecessary. rday, in this day and with information always being needed, your page could not hurt. will add it to my collection. later. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Intel Soundmax integrated adapter No Sound
On Tuesday 15 July 2008 15:48, Robert McBroom (TNWestTex) wrote: Seems that root can see the sound system. Tried adding user to all groups that seemed to apply to sound but still do not get any sound as aregular user. Robert McBroom Hi Robert. First time I've seen this thread although Re is in the subject line. Could you provide a bit of info please. Which Fedora version is this? Are you using Gnome, or KDE? If this is Fedora 8, or 9, they are both using pulseaudio as a sound server, and some folks are having problems with it. I disabled it on my Fedora 8 install, as the sounds didn't work with it enabled. To disable it, simply remove the package alsa-plugins-pulseaudio, and then Alsa will be used directly for the sounds. You can always re-install it when the sounds are working. Would you also post the output from the following commands when running as user. cat /proc/asound/cards cat /proc/asound/version /sbin/lsmod | grep snd /sbin/lspci (just the part for the soundcard will do) That will do for the moment. Nigel. btw. You should not have to add any users to /etc/group with Fedora, as this is handled in a different way to Debian installs. It should just work. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: that old GNU/Linux argument
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 02:48 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: Personally, I think the demand by Stallman, and others to call Linux 'GNU/Linux' is just stupid and childish. What exactly is it that you don't want to call GNU/Linux? What pieces of software does it contain? I honestly tried to skip over this message but my I'm feeling antagonistic today impulses overpowered my reason. Is Udev part of what you call Linux? Yes. Is Bash part of what you call Linux? Yes. Is GCC part of what you call Linux? Yes. Is Yum part of what you call Linux? Yes. Is Apache HTTPD part of what you call Linux? Yes. Is Sylpheed part of what you call Linux? Yes. Is GNU Chess part of what you call Linux? Yes. Is Kylix part of what you call Linux? And, well, yes. While it's a fact that the kernel is the only part of any distro that's actually named Linux, The name has become attached to the entire OS. It is the de facto name for any OS that runs the Linux kernel regardless of what the rest of the distro includes. That's the reality of it and there's no changing it. BTW, has the FSF been as vocal about GNU/FreeBSD? Not picking on *BSD, just curious. -- Life is hard. After all, it kills you. -- Katharine Hepburn -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9 is not recognised
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I received Fedora 9 from a Linux magazine.If I load it in my DVD rom it is not recognised.I am not able to proceed further. Is the media not good or the software? from which linux magazine? is f9 a 'boot', an 'install', or an 'iso'? are you using oos to read dvd or a linux install? being that you are '@aim/com' i would guess oos. which version? -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Fedora 9 is not recognised
I guess you must have bought digit or chip which comes loaded with other softwares plus F9..U can contact them bout the media..usually the vendor u bought the magazine from exchanges it if u tell em its not working(its so near my place in mumbai).sure its the media contact the magazine vendor 2008/7/15 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I received Fedora 9 from a Linux magazine.If I load it in my DVD rom it is not recognised.I am not able to proceed further. Is the media not good or the software? Ramachandran.C -- The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. Get the TMZ Toolbar Now http://toolbar.aol.com/tmz/download.html?NCID=aolcmp000514! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE4 groupupdate fails on F9 packagekit
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 20:53 +0530, abhishek rane wrote: Hello I am using fedora 9 with KDE4 on intel system dg33fb..while trying to update KDE4(as the workspace is crashing constantly) i got the following errors(attached to text file).Can anyone infer the problems? rpm -e crystalsvg-icon-theme-4.0.3-3.fc9.i386 that package is interfering with the update...perhaps you can re-install it afterwards Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE4 groupupdate fails on F9 packagekit
abhishek rane abhishekrane at gmail.com writes: Hello I am using fedora 9 with KDE4 on intel system dg33fb..while trying to update KDE4(as the workspace is crashing constantly) i got the following errors(attached to text file). Can anyone infer the problems? Don't use groupupdate, update everything. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: sshd fails to start
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 17:13 +0200, roland wrote: It is a standart installation K12ltsp You mean it's not Fedora? I don't know what version of SSH is on K12ltsp, but possibly it's the older one that put SSH2 stuff in ssh2 directories. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE4 groupupdate fails on F9 packagekit
I have a slow connection so its not possible to update everything for me.The updates are about 1.1 GB On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Kevin Kofler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: abhishek rane abhishekrane at gmail.com writes: Hello I am using fedora 9 with KDE4 on intel system dg33fb..while trying to update KDE4(as the workspace is crashing constantly) i got the following errors(attached to text file). Can anyone infer the problems? Don't use groupupdate, update everything. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE4 groupupdate fails on F9 packagekit
I also tried this [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo rpm -e kdelibs3-3.5.9-8.fc9.i386 error: Failed dependencies: libDCOP.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdepim-libs-3.5.9-9.fc9.i386 libDCOP.so.4 is needed by (installed) kaffeine-0.8.6-4.fc9.i386 libDCOP.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdepim-3.5.9-9.fc9.i386 libDCOP.so.4 is needed by (installed) digikam-0.9.3-2.fc9.i386 libDCOP.so.4 is needed by (installed) k3b-1.0.4-6.fc9.i386 libDCOP.so.4 is needed by (installed) konversation-1.0.1-6.fc9.i386 libDCOP.so.4 is needed by (installed) kpowersave-0.7.3-3.fc9.i386 libDCOP.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdbg-2.1.0-2.fc9.i386 libDCOP.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdelibs3-devel-3.5.9-8.fc9.i386 libDCOP.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdevelop-3.5.1-4.fc9.i386 libDCOP.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdevelop-libs-3.5.1-4.fc9.i386 libDCOP.so.4 is needed by (installed) amarok-1.4.9.1-3.fc9.i386 libDCOP.so.4 is needed by (installed) k3b-extras-nonfree-1.0.4-2.lvn9.i386 libDCOP.so.4 is needed by (installed) katapult-0.3.2.1-3.fc9.i386 libartskde.so.1 is needed by (installed) kdepim-3.5.9-9.fc9.i386 libartskde.so.1 is needed by (installed) kdelibs3-devel-3.5.9-8.fc9.i386 libkabc.so.1 is needed by (installed) kdepim-libs-3.5.9-9.fc9.i386 libkabc.so.1 is needed by (installed) kdebase3-pim-ioslaves-3.5.9-10.fc9.i386 libkabc.so.1 is needed by (installed) kdepim-3.5.9-9.fc9.i386 libkabc.so.1 is needed by (installed) digikam-0.9.3-2.fc9.i386 libkabc.so.1 is needed by (installed) konversation-1.0.1-6.fc9.i386 libkabc.so.1 is needed by (installed) kdelibs3-devel-3.5.9-8.fc9.i386 libkabc_dir.so.1 is needed by (installed) kdelibs3-devel-3.5.9-8.fc9.i386 libkabc_file.so.1 is needed by (installed) kdepim-libs-3.5.9-9.fc9.i386 libkabc_file.so.1 is needed by (installed) kdepim-3.5.9-9.fc9.i386 libkabc_file.so.1 is needed by (installed) kdelibs3-devel-3.5.9-8.fc9.i386 libkabc_ldapkio.so.1 is needed by (installed) kdelibs3-devel-3.5.9-8.fc9.i386 libkatepartinterfaces.so.0 is needed by (installed) kdelibs3-devel-3.5.9-8.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdnssd-avahi-0.1.3-0.6.20080116svn.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdepim-libs-3.5.9-9.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) libkipi-0.1.5-4.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) libkdcraw-0.1.3-2.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) libkexiv2-0.1.6-4.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) kaffeine-0.8.6-4.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) kaffeine-libs-0.8.6-4.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdebase3-pim-ioslaves-3.5.9-10.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdepim-3.5.9-9.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) digikam-0.9.3-2.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) kipi-plugins-0.1.5-0.6.rc2.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) k3b-1.0.4-6.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) kftpgrabber-0.8.1-6.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) konversation-1.0.1-6.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) kpowersave-0.7.3-3.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) ksshaskpass-0.4-2.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdbg-2.1.0-2.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdelibs3-devel-3.5.9-8.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdevelop-3.5.1-4.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdevelop-libs-3.5.1-4.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) amarok-1.4.9.1-3.fc9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) k3b-extras-nonfree-1.0.4-2.lvn9.i386 libkdecore.so.4 is needed by (installed) katapult-0.3.2.1-3.fc9.i386 libkdefakes.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdepim-libs-3.5.9-9.fc9.i386 libkdefakes.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdelibs3-devel-3.5.9-8.fc9.i386 libkdefx.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdepim-libs-3.5.9-9.fc9.i386 libkdefx.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdepim-3.5.9-9.fc9.i386 libkdefx.so.4 is needed by (installed) digikam-0.9.3-2.fc9.i386 libkdefx.so.4 is needed by (installed) kipi-plugins-0.1.5-0.6.rc2.fc9.i386 libkdefx.so.4 is needed by (installed) k3b-1.0.4-6.fc9.i386 libkdefx.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdbg-2.1.0-2.fc9.i386 libkdefx.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdelibs3-devel-3.5.9-8.fc9.i386 libkdefx.so.4 is needed by (installed) amarok-1.4.9.1-3.fc9.i386 libkdefx.so.4 is needed by (installed) k3b-extras-nonfree-1.0.4-2.lvn9.i386 libkdeinit_kded.so is needed by (installed) kdevelop-3.5.1-4.fc9.i386 libkdeprint.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdepim-libs-3.5.9-9.fc9.i386 libkdeprint.so.4 is needed by (installed) kdepim-3.5.9-9.fc9.i386 libkdeprint.so.4 is needed by (installed) digikam-0.9.3-2.fc9.i386 libkdeprint.so.4 is needed by (installed)
Fedora Accounts System Site Registration Server down
Well I lost my previous FAS accounts id(forgot it aww!).Trying to create a new account on FAS site https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/new but does not wok..after filling details I get a server down error and this has been happening for a couple of days. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: that old GNU/Linux argument
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 23:25 -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: If you take *GNU* libc, rebuild it to target a different kernel while exporting the same ABI, and voila, you can drop Linux entirely from what you call a Linux Operating System, and pretty much all applications will still work just the same. Because they're not applications for Linux. They're applications for GNU libc. They couldn't care less that they're running on top of the kernel Linux. For them, the kernel is irrelevant. This sounds like you're making the argument that all beer should be called Water/Beer because water isn't specific to beer and can be used with/in any other beverage. Water couldn't care less that it's mixing with hops or wheat. For water, the other ingredients are irrelevant. You seem to be making a good case that the GNU parts are ubiquitous and therefor there's no reason to explicitly state their inclusion. Next frequently raised fallacious objections? Well, this has been fun. My need for mindless ranting... Uh, I mean debate as been filled. Back to what's loosely known as productivity. -- The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE4 groupupdate fails on F9 packagekit
abhishek rane abhishekrane at gmail.com writes: I have a slow connection so its not possible to update everything for me. The updates are about 1.1 GB The updates are interdependent, so you have to update everything. Well, at least everything related to KDE, but a groupinstall won't catch it all. Maybe this can help: https://fedorahosted.org/presto Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: sshd fails to start
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:33:44 +0200, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 17:13 +0200, roland wrote: It is a standart installation K12ltsp You mean it's not Fedora? I don't know what version of SSH is on K12ltsp, but possibly it's the older one that put SSH2 stuff in ssh2 directories. K12ltsp is Fedora So, what can be the solution. Or how can I get rid of this ssh2? Roland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: that old GNU/Linux argument
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Joe Klemmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 23:25 -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: If you take *GNU* libc, rebuild it to target a different kernel while exporting the same ABI, and voila, you can drop Linux entirely from what you call a Linux Operating System, and pretty much all applications will still work just the same. Because they're not applications for Linux. They're applications for GNU libc. They couldn't care less that they're running on top of the kernel Linux. For them, the kernel is irrelevant. This sounds like you're making the argument that all beer should be called Water/Beer because water isn't specific to beer and can be used with/in any other beverage. Water couldn't care less that it's mixing with hops or wheat. For water, the other ingredients are irrelevant. You seem to be making a good case that the GNU parts are ubiquitous and therefor there's no reason to explicitly state their inclusion. Next frequently raised fallacious objections? Well, this has been fun. My need for mindless ranting... Uh, I mean debate as been filled. Back to what's loosely known as productivity. -- The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Its amazing to me that with all these brains nobody likes to discuss strategies and solutions, just a bunch of endless nitpicking and finger pointing. Its no wonder Microsoft dominates the desktop computer market. -- Travelling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops boy. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
SOLVED: F9 Problem setting resolution and video lockups
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 04:45 +, g wrote: The problem is when I set the monitor as you show above the only options for resolution are 800x600 and 640x480. Nothing I do will get me anything no higher than 800x600. as 'root' or 'user'? As root. also, try 'display' as 'root' and select 'generic' 1280x1024. I finally got this working. I had to go and find the exact specs for the Daewoo 707B monitor then manually enter them into the xorg.config file. I also needed to add the actual modes in the screen section. Now I'm running at 1280x1024 and have lots of desktop room to fill. :-) My config file looks like this - # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display Section ServerLayout Identifier single head configuration Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section InputDevice # keyboard added by rhpxl Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout us EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 ModelNameDaewoo 707B HorizSync30.0 - 69.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 120.0 Option dpms EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver nv EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes1280x1024 1280x960 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection -- Huh?!? - Me, two seconds after being told not to lean on that big red button and one second before the Haylon system activated. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: sshd fails to start
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 18:05 +0200, roland wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:33:44 +0200, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 17:13 +0200, roland wrote: It is a standart installation K12ltsp You mean it's not Fedora? I don't know what version of SSH is on K12ltsp, but possibly it's the older one that put SSH2 stuff in ssh2 directories. K12ltsp is Fedora According to the Wiki, K12LTSP is based on CentOS Linux and the Linux Terminal Server Project. There is also a Fedora-based version called K12Linux. I've no idea what the differences are. So, what can be the solution. Or how can I get rid of this ssh2? Start by finding out exactly which version of ssh you have: # rpm -qa \*ssh\* poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: compile graphical ssh - GFTP
On Tuesday 15 July 2008 13:44:20 wwp wrote: GFTP is a pretty dead project tome, the author is not responding (at least, was few years ago) and not reacting to bug reports and patch submission. Moreover, it's too easy to make it crash with reproducible and simple scenarii, thus I recently switched to filezilla, which is much more mature and stable. A dead project it might be, but I've used it for years, and am still using it regularly. I've never yet seen it crash. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: that old GNU/Linux argument
Andrew Kelly wrote: snip for brevity Except that what you call Linux software isn't actually for Linux. Have you ever heard of Nexenta (GNU/kOpenSolaris), Debian GNU/kFreeBSD, and even UnixWare? If you take *GNU* libc, rebuild it to target a different kernel while exporting the same ABI, and voila, you can drop Linux entirely from what you call a Linux Operating System, and pretty much all applications will still work just the same. Because they're not applications for Linux. They're applications for GNU libc. They couldn't care less that they're running on top of the kernel Linux. For them, the kernel is irrelevant. Next frequently raised fallacious objections? Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the sound of a shoe dropping. [applause] That was a fabulous exchange, very well stated, very well explained. Alexandre, very impressed with your ability to avoid vitriolic and abusive tone. Very impressed. Except that he didn't go quite far enough with that explanation. Not only is Linux just one implementation of the more or less standard Unix/Posix system call interface that predates it, but so is GNU libc just another implementation of the pre-existing standard c library specification and sensibly written programs have no dependencies on any specific implementations of these standards. From his description you might think that it would make sense to say GNU/apache or GNU/sendmail when in fact, like most such programs there is no such relationship and they run just fine when built on *bsd or commercial unix C libraries - as they were before glib existed. It would make more sense to describe a lot of things as the GNU re-implementation of... rather than to imply that they were created as original designs or are the only versions that exist. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KWin (KDE4 from rawhide) using way too much CPU (nvidia driver problem)
On Tuesday 15 July 2008 16:11:55 Vini Engel wrote: The proprietary nvidia driver is known to have absymal performance, and we can't fix it because it's proprietary. Blame nVidia. There's nothing we can do about it. Well, it may not be the best driver out there but before Fedora 9 it did work very well for me. The fact is that my problem is not really related to performance, the overall performance of my machine is pretty good. The problem is that xorg and kwin use too much CPU, it doesn't bother me much apart from using more battery. If it doesn't jump up to 80% my machine goes ok, I have disabled some of the desktop effects and it improved. I think we cannot blame nVidia for this because what is being used here is the CPU and not the GPU. Unless there is clear proof that their drive actually causes it to happen the problem to me will be related to the way KDE4 is handling OpenGL for its 'special' effects. There has been a good deal of discussion of this on the kde-devel list. The problems do affect only some cards, but excessive cpu usage is definitely a symptom. The fact that kde and nvidia have discussed the problem and that nvidia acknowledge it does mean that nothing can be done until nvidia have sorted it at their end. The problem apparently stems from some parts of the driver which have, in theory, supported certain requirements for some years, but because programs have not been written to use the facility there has been little opportunity to see what happens in real-life situations. KDE's pushing of the boundaries with 4.x is opening that area up. NVidia appear to be willing to work to sort this out, so we must wait for them. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: SOLVED: F9 Problem setting resolution and video lockups
Joe Klemmer wrote: snip I finally got this working. I had to go and find the exact specs for great. give yourself a 'pat on back' and a 'that a boy'. you deserve it. how far off where settings or did you notice? if it were a perfect world there would be just 2 operating systems, linux and unix, then oems would be more willing to release their specs. i started out in unix when it was a termcaps file with mono and very little color. i spent many hours building settings for monitors that where not in file. printers were even more fun. understandings from this has helped when clients friends have lost oem manuals. I also needed to add the actual modes in the screen section. you really only need what you are going to use, unless you are going to do a lot of screen magnifying. you might want to send a bug correction on for monitor. who knows, some one else might buy one and try to use it in f9. ;o) -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9: Compiled and created rt2870sta.ko, but where to install?
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 17:13 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-07-12 at 17:39 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: As a side note, I wonder why this module is not included in the F8/9 repository since it is freely available? I am assuming this is license-free? Two points: 1) Every package in the standard Fedora repos is licensed. If you mean the module comes with a free software license and thus could potentially be part of Fedora then of course that's something else, but it's not what you said. 2) When you say it's freely available do you mean you just downloaded it from the manufacturer's site *without* having to click on a license agreement? It would be helpful if you gave the URL you got it from. One of the keys to getting useful answers is to provide enough information in the question. I obtained the rt2870 software from: http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html and the specific file I downloaded was: RT2870USB(RT2870/RT2870) http://www.ralinktech.com.tw/data/drivers/2008_0528_RT2870_Linux_STA_v1.3.0.0.tar.bz2 From what I can tell, it is an Open-Source Organization and I did not see any licensing in regards to the code i.e. I do not think I recall having to click on any license agreements. The fact that there's no visible license makes me think it's not Open Source or Free within the accepted guidelines, just that they provide source code. Anyway, does anyone have any helpful links that might help me in properly installing and setting up the Wireless software? The README file says: 6 load driver, go to os/linux/ directory. #[kernel 2.4] #$/sbin/insmod rt2870sta.o #$/sbin/ifconfig ra0 inet YOUR_IP up #[kernel 2.6] #$/sbin/insmod rt2870sta.ko #$/sbin/ifconfig ra0 inet YOUR_IP up Which seems pretty clear. Yes, it seems clear - but what is not clear is there is no mention of where to put rt2870sta.ko If you had built the driver in your home directory, and performed the above setup and later blew away your build directory, the system will fail to find and load that driver! I looked in the /lib/modules/ area and tried to find the best place for this driver to reside but then again - no matter where I placed it (in several */net/wirless locations or usb or where-ever, I could not get this driver to appear listed in the 'Other Wireless' under the Network tool. So, moving on. So, I elected to put this file at: /lib/modules/$KERNEL_VER/kernel/net/wireless/rt2870sta.ko Per instructions: # insmod lib/modules/$KERNEL_VER/kernel/net/wireless/rt2870sta.ko Next, I had to create the ifcfg_ra0 file in: /etc/sysconfig/networking/devices/ifcfg-ra0 which contains: # RT2870 WLAN USB Connection BOOTPROTO=none DEVICE=ra0 ONBOOT=yes ESSID=myHomeWifi IPADDR=10.1.0.15 IPV6INIT=no NETMASK=255.0.0.0 HWADDR=00:1d:6a:33:fd:42 TYPE=Wireless CHANNEL=6 MODE=auto RATE=auto DHCP_HOSTNAME= DOMAIN=myDomain.com SEARCH=myDomain.com DNS1=10.1.0.1 DNS2=10.1.0.2 DNS3=10.1.0.3 USERCTL=no PEERDNS=yes NM_CONTROLLED=no Per README instructions, I was to place the following file as specified: /etc/Wireless/etc/Wireless/RT2870STA/RT2870STA.dat Which contains: cat RT2870STA.dat #The word of Default must not be removed Default AckPolicy=0;0;0;0 APSDAC=0;0;0;0 APSDCapable=0 AuthMode=WPA2PSK BeaconPeriod=100 BGProtection=0 Channel=6 ChannelGeography=1 CountryCode=US CountryRegion=5 CountryRegionABand=7 DefaultKeyID=1 EncrypType=AES FastRoaming=1 FragThreshold=2346 HT_AMSDU=0 HT_AutoBA=1 HT_BADecline=0 HT_BADecline=0 HT_BAWinSize=64 HT_BW=1 HT_EXTCHA=0 HT_GI=1 HT_MCS=33 HT_MIMOPSMode=3 HT_MpduDensity=4 HT_OpMode=1 HT_RDG=1 IEEE80211H=0 Key1Str= Key1Type=1 Key2Str= Key2Type=1 Key3Str= Key3Type=1 Key4Str= Key4Type=1 NetworkType=Infra PktAggregate=0 PSMode=CAM RoamThreshold=70 RTSThreshold=2347 SSID=myHomeWifi TGnWifiTest=0 TxBurst=1 TxPower=100 TxPreamble=0 WirelessEvent=0 WirelessMode=5 WmmCapable=0 WPAPSK=mySecretPassword I have NO CLUE if this driver actually even loads this file in this strange location (so it seems). Moving on Time to test this all out... # service network restart The system logs show: Error for wireless request Set Mode (8B06) : SET failed on device ra0 ; Invalid argument. Determining IP information for ra0... = NOTE: Set Mode (8B06) error. Scanning the Internet, some say this can be safely ignored, but I am not sure that is the case. Moving on... I note, for as long as my Ethernet cable is hooked up to the NIC - I tried to disable eth0 via 'Network Configuration' tool and noticed that even if I tried to deactivate it, the tool would keep activating it back on. So - I had to remove the cable and only then it will stay down. There must be something that senses this and force eth0 back up! I wonder how to stop this -auto-reactivation of eth0. Well, continuing with the
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
On Jul 14, 2008, Kevin Kofler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antonio Olivares olivares14031 at yahoo.com writes: A Because Fedora includes Firmware and those guys don't. Bullsh*t! BLAG 7 ships: * the original Fedora 7 kernels as the default and kernel-libre only as an option, Big surprise, BLAG 7 pre-dates kernel-libre. * the following firmwares: asterisk-firmware, atmel-firmware, ivtv-firmware, iwl3945-firmware, iwl4965-firmware, iwlwifi-firmware (old version of iwl3945-firmware), ql2100-firmware, ql2200-firmware, ql23xx-firmware and ql2400-firmware, all with License: Redistributable, no modification permitted * zd1211-firmware which claims to be GPLv2, but with no source available. So this is like gNewSense 2.0 shipping linux-ubuntu-modules containing non-Free Software. It was against their policies, it was eventually fixed. If you find any such problems in BLAG 8 (never formally released) or BLAG 9 (released easier today), please report them. Likewise gNewSense 2.0, dyne:bolic, UTUTO-XS, Musix GNU+Linux. Those guys are serious about it, they have public commitments to that, but like everyone else they can make mistakes. As I said before, (honest) policy matters more than the exact bits that get shipped, and fixing policy is much easier than fixing software. I consider it completely irresponsible to recommend a distribution whose current release has not received ANY security updates for a month! Whatever irresponsibility you perceive here is probably just laziness of publishing announcements about software that has long been available. BLAG 7 was old, indeed, and it's a shame it was still regarded as the latest stable release in spite of the (as of yesterday) unannounced BLAG 8 and 9. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Free Software Evangelist [EMAIL PROTECTED], gnu.org} FSFLA Board Member ¡Sé Libre! = http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED], gcc.gnu.org} -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
On Jul 14, 2008, DJ Delorie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexandre Oliva [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RMS actually has a social reason for his request. What is the reason behind those who refuse? Respect for all the other organizations and authors who have contributed to the packages within the various Linux-based distributions, yet who do not get credited in the name GNU/Linux ? Again, circular reasoning. You're talking about GNU+Linux-based distributions. You're absolutely correct that some don't get credited by GNU+Linux, but how is that a logical reason to credit the smaller contributor Linux and not the larger contributor GNU? This is covered in the FAQ, BTW, starting at http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#many -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Free Software Evangelist [EMAIL PROTECTED], gnu.org} FSFLA Board Member ¡Sé Libre! = http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED], gcc.gnu.org} -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
Alexandre Oliva aoliva at redhat.com writes: If you find any such problems in BLAG 8 (never formally released) or BLAG 9 (released easier today), please report them. Here's some I found at a quick glance: http://www.blagblagblag.org/9/BLAG/RPMS.fedora/zd1211-firmware-1.4-1.noarch.rpm Yes, it says it's GPLv2. Now try looking at the source code... See also the Fedora review request (where I raised that point, wondering if this is legal to redistribute at all): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=221675#c17 http://www.blagblagblag.org/9/BLAG/RPMS.fedora/midisport-firmware-1.2-1.noarch.rpm Claims to be GPLv2, but only the firmware loader is GPLv2 (actually dual GPLv2 or BSD). The package also contains firmware files (in /lib/firmware) under the following license: The firmware files (*.ihx) are copyrighted by Midiman, and can be used and redistributed only as part of this package. See: http://usb-midi-fw.cvs.sourceforge.net/usb-midi-fw/midisport-firmware/LICENSE?revision=1.1view=markup http://www.blagblagblag.org/9/BLAG/RPMS.kriehn/pdftk-1.41-5.fc9.i386.rpm pdftk was dropped from Fedora for licensing reasons: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=236310 The files have since been fixed not to claim to be confidential and proprietary, but the new license is still not acceptable because it forbids use in a nuclear facility. If this is not Free enough for Fedora, how come it is Free enough for BLAG? http://www.blagblagblag.org/9/BLAG/RPMS.kriehn/msttcore-fonts-2.0-3.fc9.prof_k.noarch.rpm Kept the best one for the end. Does this really need a comment? Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
I wrote: Claims to be GPLv2, but only the firmware loader is GPLv2 (actually dual GPLv2 or BSD). Or rather, GPLv2+ or MIT. So in total, the correct License tag for midisport-firmware would be: (GPLv2+ or MIT) and Redistributable, no modification permitted Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
You're absolutely correct that some don't get credited by GNU+Linux, but how is that a logical reason to credit the smaller contributor Linux and not the larger contributor GNU? I didn't say the larger contributors shouldn't get credited. I object to the FSF asking for credit *only for them*. Asking for Linux distros to be called GNU/Linux makes it sound like the FSF created Linux, Firefox, Apache, Perl, Gnome, OO, and all those other big parts of common distros. *That* I object to. If the FSF wants to create their own distro that consists primarily of the Linux kernel and the GNU software, they may call it GNU/Linux (or anything else they choose ;). Asking for anything else to be called GNU/Linux is pure hubris. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Joe Klemmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 07:40 -0400, Mark Haney wrote: Personally, I think the demand by Stallman, and others to call Linux 'GNU/Linux' is just stupid and childish. As if changing the name will change the nature of the system. While I am an advocate of free and open source software, and agree with some of his ideas, Stallman needs a bloody valium. To me he's a lot like Jack Thompson, foams at the mouth over the silliest things. While I personally think RMS is, well, let's say over zealous and leave it at that... He is what I'd call a necessary evil. He swings the pendulum so far the one direction that it keeps the whole thing449-442-806 balanced. Irritating as he and his fellows may be, they do serve a needed purpose. I think it is more honest to make reference to GNU/Linux or Linux/GNU. Without both parts we would not have a working system to have this discussion on. Linux systems would not exist without GNU tools, compiler and libs. GNU+Linux+hardware = system We _should_ pay attention to the shoulders of those that got us here! -- NiftyFedora T o m M i t c h e l l -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler at chello.at writes: Antonio Olivares olivares14031 at yahoo.com writes: A Because Fedora includes Firmware and those guys don't. Bullsh*t! BLAG 7 ships: [gmane tells me to prune] I am the maintainer of BLAG and I basically agree with what you've said above. The 7 release was done before linux-libre was done. Moving forward we've removed all the non-free bits we can find. BLAG always has updated releases, but they are just called alpha or beta and used by the BLAG community though they weren't linked on the front page. We do have updated releases--oftentimes I have releases ready based on fedora testing even before fedora has done their final release. The repositories are set up before fedora releases their stable version too. http://wiki.blagblagblag.org/Roadmap Last night, I pushed out 9, based on Fedora 9, so it is now linked on our front page. I will be doing more release early often of 'stable' releases to address your legitimate concerns. As for the DNS issue, it compels me to make a confession of a sin against Free Software. I've been running djbdns the whole decade, not BIND! Thankfully, djbdns is now in the public domain. :) Thanks, -Jeff P.S. I'm posting via gmane since i'm not on this list, and the turing-test word is subverts jejeje. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: compile graphical ssh - GFTP
Hello Anne, On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:20:06 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2008 13:44:20 wwp wrote: GFTP is a pretty dead project tome, the author is not responding (at least, was few years ago) and not reacting to bug reports and patch submission. Moreover, it's too easy to make it crash with reproducible and simple scenarii, thus I recently switched to filezilla, which is much more mature and stable. A dead project it might be, but I've used it for years, and am still using it regularly. Me too.. I've never yet seen it crash. Well, a simple way to crash it: try to connect to a server that will timeout. Regards, -- wwp signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
Alexandre Oliva wrote: Alexandre Oliva [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RMS actually has a social reason for his request. What is the reason behind those who refuse? Respect for all the other organizations and authors who have contributed to the packages within the various Linux-based distributions, yet who do not get credited in the name GNU/Linux ? Again, circular reasoning. You're talking about GNU+Linux-based distributions. You're absolutely correct that some don't get credited by GNU+Linux, but how is that a logical reason to credit the smaller contributor Linux and not the larger contributor GNU? This is covered in the FAQ, BTW, starting at http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#many A rare bit of honesty there: In 2008, we found that GNU packages made up 15% of the “main” repository of the gNewSense GNU/Linux distribution. Linux made up 1.5%. So the same argument would apply even more strongly to calling it “Linux” Why not name it something that gives the appropriate credit to the 83.5% that has nothing to do with GNU instead of usurping the name and pretending that GNU is necessary or even desirable in the process of creating redistributable software? Or at least focus the credit on gcc which has been something of a driving force because the alternatives were expensive. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler at chello.at writes:
Alexandre Oliva aoliva at redhat.com writes:
If you find any such problems in BLAG 8 (never formally released)
or BLAG 9 (released easier today), please report them.
Here's some I found at a quick glance:
Thank you for your research! We have over 10,000 packages in our BLAG 9
repository (based on fedora 9), so things do get missed.
My approach is to generate a list of acceptable %{LICENSE} tags, in their
various forms (GPL, GPLv2, GPLv3, MIT, Public Domain, etc). That list has 383
valid license tags!
I then run a script which goes through the various repos and adds all the
packages with licenses that are acceptable to the Free Software Foundation.
If the packages you mention are included in BLAG and contain non-free software,
this is likely due to them being tagged with an incorrect license. Their
inclusion, if they are non-free, is considered a BUG and they will be removed. I
will go through the packages on your list to confirm your report. I do
appreciate it, as I actually hate licensing issues! I merely want Free Software!
I'll also note that there is *Free* firmware for some drivers, so just because
something is labelled firmware doesn't mean it's not free.
Thanks!
-Jeff
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Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
I didn't say the larger contributors shouldn't get credited. I object to the FSF asking for credit *only for them*. Asking for Linux distros to be called GNU/Linux makes it sound like the FSF created Linux, Firefox, Apache, Perl, Gnome, OO, and all those other big parts of common distros. *That* I object to. Just putting it out there, but Gnome is a GNU project... or at least it was before the GNOME Foundation was created, and is still advertised as such on GNU's site. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler at chello.at writes: I wrote: Claims to be GPLv2, but only the firmware loader is GPLv2 (actually dual GPLv2 or BSD). Or rather, GPLv2+ or MIT. So in total, the correct License tag for midisport-firmware would be: (GPLv2+ or MIT) and Redistributable, no modification permitted This would actually be a bug in Fedora then and should have a bugzilla ticket opened there. As I go thru your list I will open upstream bug reports if you don't beat me to it. plz beat me to it? ;) Thanks again, -Jeff -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
Francis Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just putting it out there, but Gnome is a GNU project... or at least it was before the GNOME Foundation was created, and is still advertised as such on GNU's site. GNOME is still part of the GNU project. GNOME is Free Software and part of the GNU project, dedicated to giving users and developers the ultimate level of control over their desktops, their software, and their data. Find out more about the GNU project and Free Software at gnu.org. Source: http://www.gnome.org/about/ -- Join the Fellowship and protect your freedom! (http://fsfe.org/join) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Bjoern Schiessle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Francis Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just putting it out there, but Gnome is a GNU project... or at least it was before the GNOME Foundation was created, and is still advertised as such on GNU's site. GNOME is still part of the GNU project. GNOME is Free Software and part of the GNU project, dedicated to giving users and developers the ultimate level of control over their desktops, their software, and their data. Find out more about the GNU project and Free Software at gnu.org. Source: http://www.gnome.org/about/ ultimate level of control over their desktops I have to say I am surprised to hear/read that. -- Fedora 7 : sipping some of that moonshine ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
