wireshark and single byte multicast error

[Skunk Worx]

Hi,

I've been practicing my multicast socket programming and noticed if I 
send a single byte over multicast, and monitor via wireshark, I see a 
message in the top pane :


Destination port: [Malformed Packet]

...and in the lower pane :

[Malformed Packet: DCP (ETSI)]

...instead of :

Data (1 byte)

...which is what I expected.

The packet length and checksum are ok. The packet gets read and the byte 
is displayed at the receiver.


Sending more than one byte is ok, data bytes are reported, no error shown.

Is it illegal to send one byte over multicast?

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Re: Problems with ralink (rt73) wireless USB connection

[Kevin J. Cummings]

Colin Paul Adams wrote:

"Kevin" == Kevin J Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Kevin> If you only intend to use your computer with a single
Kevin> wireless access point, you might want to consider using the

That is my situation (it is a bedroom desktop and I want to remove the
long ethernet cable trailing down the stairs and through the kitchen).


OK.  Have you tried to get this to work with WEP turned off?  Sometimes 
removing complexity can help.



>> I checked the SSID and WEP key information (and I have other
>> laptops - a MacBook Air and a Sony Windows XP machine) working
>> on the router.


The Sony is using the router wirelessly as well?  I assume the router 
has a sufficient number of DHCP addresses to give out for your new 
computer as well, right?



>> How do I go about diagnosing the problem?

Kevin> Look at your log files.  NetworkManager logs to
Kevin> /var/log/messages for me.  There are also interesting

All it seems to say was that it could not determine the IP
information. (Also I had to turn SELinux to permissive mode - which I
think I will keep it there permanently - it is a real pain in the arse).


More details from the log file please.  It may help.  When NM is 
confused, it usually fails to determine an IP because it hasn't set up 
to connect to the access point properly, usually because of some other 
reason.  Here the iwconfig and iwlist commands can be helpful.


I have not been successful at establishing a wireless connection using 
solely iwconfig, but that may be because I need to involve 
wpa_supplicant for my setup.  You may have better luck.


What does iwconfig have to say about your wireless card?

no comment on SEL.

I use WPA Personal security at my house.  AES encryption.  The last time 
I tried to connect to a WEP network, I was unable to (OK, that was back 
in June).  I'm not sure if that's been fixed since then or not, I 
haven't had the opportunity to try again.  No problems connecting to 
either open or WPA networks though.  Go figure.  Can you try to set your 
router to WPA or turn off security temporarily just long enough to run a 
connection test?  Are you running wpa_supplicant as a service?  (if so, 
try disabling it.)  Is the network service still enabled when you are 
trying to use NetworkManager?



Kevin> messages about your hardware's drivers when your system
Kevin> boots as well.  the output from "lsusb" can help others
Kevin> help you as well.

The latter is a little more informative, maybe.
It says RALink ... RT2501USB.


I have been using an Intel 3945abg chip, so I have no experience with 
the other drivers.



Under FC6 is said RT73USB.

And the device itself comes with a device driver for rt73 for FC4 (I
couldn't get it to work with FC6 - the instructions didn't match the
CD directory layout).


I'm not surprised.  Much has changed since FC4.  What do your log files 
say about your wireless card during system boot?  This is important 
information to determine if linux is talking to a proper driver.  What 
does lsmod say about any wireless drivers that should be loaded?  Is 
there a line in your /etc/modprobe.conf file?  Is the module loaded?



Kevin> If your problem is that you've configured everything right,
Kevin> and its just the access point negotiation that fails, the
Kevin> logs from your router might contain useful information as
Kevin> well.

Nothing there.


grumble.   Need more details!

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Re: Problems with ralink (rt73) wireless USB connection

[Colin Paul Adams]

> "Kevin" == Kevin J Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Kevin> If you only intend to use your computer with a single
Kevin> wireless access point, you might want to consider using the

That is my situation (it is a bedroom desktop and I want to remove the
long ethernet cable trailing down the stairs and through the kitchen).

>> I checked the SSID and WEP key information (and I have other
>> laptops - a MacBook Air and a Sony Windows XP machine) working
>> on the router.
>> 
>> How do I go about diagnosing the problem?

Kevin> Look at your log files.  NetworkManager logs to
Kevin> /var/log/messages for me.  There are also interesting

All it seems to say was that it could not determine the IP
information. (Also I had to turn SELinux to permissive mode - which I
think I will keep it there permanently - it is a real pain in the arse).

Kevin> messages about your hardware's drivers when your system
Kevin> boots as well.  the output from "lsusb" can help others
Kevin> help you as well.

The latter is a little more informative, maybe.
It says RALink ... RT2501USB.

Under FC6 is said RT73USB.

And the device itself comes with a device driver for rt73 for FC4 (I
couldn't get it to work with FC6 - the instructions didn't match the
CD directory layout).

Kevin> If your problem is that you've configured everything right,
Kevin> and its just the access point negotiation that fails, the
Kevin> logs from your router might contain useful information as
Kevin> well.

Nothing there.
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Re: messed-up encoding

[Ric Moore]

On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 02:49 +, g wrote:
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> 
> > I thought that was a trademarked name of a pressure cooker. :) Ric
> 
> i thought that was with 2 'r's.

It is, I just thought to toss a yuk yuk into the salad of
conversation! :) Ric

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Re: automount and autorun SOLVED

[Maurizio Marini]

On Thursday 31 July 2008, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Maurizio Marini wrote:
> > My target is to use an "autorun" bash script when an usb pen is
> > automounted like http://linlog.skepticats.com/content/udevautorun/
> > describe.
> >
> > With recent kernels hotplug is vanished replaced by udev; there is
> > no  /etc/dev.d or /etc/hotplug, anymore.
> > I am not able to find a place where put bash script to be executed.
> > I read tons of google udev links w/out result, yet.
> > Any advice would be apreciated
> >
> > Maurizio
>
> It is /etc/udev and /etc/hotplug.d. But HAL handles things like
> mounting USB pen drives. So you will probably have to add a HAL rule
> to do this...
>
> Mikkel

cat /etc/udev/rules.d/81-programs-local.rules
ACTION=="add", KERNEL=="sdb1", SUBSYSTEM=="block", RUN+="/root/usbpen"

the key is to use the RUN option to autoRUN a script when usben is mounted
thnx
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Re: How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

[Joonas Sarajärvi]

2008/8/4 Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> One thing I didn't notice was something saying *how* does it play those
> proprietary content?  Has it jammed in some naughty decoders under the
> hood?  Is it really going to be any better at playing "risky" content?
>
I think Miro uses the free Xine library to view content. Many of the
decoder are possibly patent-encumbered, but they are licensed under a
free software licenses and available in Livna, unlike the proprietary
Adobe browser plugin.

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Re: How to install GNU c,c++ library in F8/F9

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try yum -y groupinstall "Development Tools";

2008/8/4 Russell Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Prashanth Kumar wrote:
>
>> Hi Everybody,
>>
>> I'm learning c,c++ programming in linux.
>> For that i need to know the library functions available.
>> So, plz guide me to install GNU c,c++ library functions and their manual
>> in step by step in Fedora 8 and in Fedora 9.
>>
>> Advance thanks.
>>
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> yum install gcc
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> yum install g++
>
> You may want some other packages, install them in the same way.
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Re: mouse wheel workspace switcher?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 22:14 -0400, fred smith wrote:
> > In both KDE 3.5 and KDE 4.x, you can use the scroll wheel when the
> mouse
> > is over the pager icon in the panel.
> 
> Wow. new hidden features!

Hidden perhaps, but definitely not new. This has been around for years,
at least in KDE (don't know about Gnome).

> It works in Gnome too. Though I concur with the later poster who asked
> why, if the mouse is already over the switcher you'd need (or find it
> easier) to use the scrollwheel.

See my earlier reply to this point.

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Re: 'Overlay' in terms of Live CD

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 13:21 +0930, Tim wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 16:52 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > I tried creating the disk with 1024GB
> 
> Surely not?  A terrabyte?

You mean terrorbyte, surely :-)

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Re: F8 & F9 (i386/i686): Problems with sendmail & dovecot

[Tim]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 22:37 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Keep your hardware clock in UTC. Everywhere. The most common cause of 
> this is the clock is in UTC in Linux and the machine is infected with
> a trojan called "Windows" which defaults to local time. It will run 
> hardware clock in UTC, you just have to slap it up aside the
> registry. 

Going from what I've read, you can't get Windows to run in UTC.  There's
registry options for it, but system problems with attempting it.

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Re: disk controller/device errors?

[Tim]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 22:15 -0400, Jeffrey Ross wrote:
> The errors are pretty regular, almost every 56 minutes and while the
> DVD and CD disks are idle.

With discs in the drives, or not?

I see occasional errors when there's discs in the drives (typically
associated with inserting a disc, when it first tries to read it), but
none when there's not.

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Re: subpixel LCD fonts smoothing

[Tim]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 22:16 +0200, David Hláčik wrote:
> whoa - i have just tried lastest ubuntu desktop to compare fonts
> smoothing, because i really hate sandy fonts on fedora 9 - and i have
> noticed that their subpixel fonts smoothing on LCDs is really
> wonderfull , like on windows vista.

Having used all three, I can't say I've noticed Ubuntu being wonderful.
They're all about the same as each other, depending on the fonts in use
(size and the typeface), and your graphics driver.  Web browsers add
another spanner in the works, as they often do their own font rendering.

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Re: 'Overlay' in terms of Live CD

[Tim]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 16:52 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> I tried creating the disk with 1024GB

Surely not?  A terrabyte?

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Re: How to install GNU c,c++ library in F8/F9

[Russell Miller]

Prashanth Kumar wrote:

Hi Everybody,

I'm learning c,c++ programming in linux.
For that i need to know the library functions available.
So, plz guide me to install GNU c,c++ library functions and their 
manual in step by step in Fedora 8 and in Fedora 9.


Advance thanks.


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yum install gcc
and I think the command to install c++ is
yum install g++

You may want some other packages, install them in the same way.

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How to install GNU c,c++ library in F8/F9

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Hi Everybody,

I'm learning c,c++ programming in linux.
For that i need to know the library functions available.
So, plz guide me to install GNU c,c++ library functions and their manual in 
step by step in Fedora 8 and in Fedora 9.

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Re: Installing from DVD image via ftp

[Tim]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 20:07 +0100, Colin Paul Adams wrote:
> 1) Even though I specified askmethod and selected NFS, anaconda still
> detected (and chose) a local installation medium (CD #1), so i had to
> reboot and start all over again.

I seem to recall reading that the DVD install media always wants to
install from itself.  For network installs, I start the install from the
rescue media (a small CD-ROM image).

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Re: How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

[Tim]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 19:51 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> So you want to view YouTube videos but you don't want to install
> proprietary software? Namely that pesky Adobe Flash plugin, so well
> known for being a multi-operating-system "virus"-platform?
> 
> There's a simple answer for you, just install Miró!

One thing I didn't notice was something saying *how* does it play those
proprietary content?  Has it jammed in some naughty decoders under the
hood?  Is it really going to be any better at playing "risky" content?

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Re: How to swee youtube videos,

[Tim]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 19:40 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> Yeah, it seems sometime in the past I lost my send_charset flag
> setting.
> 
> So even though I was using UTF-8, mutt sent out
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Did you really lose the configuration setting, or was it still set?  

If what you've typed only uses the characters as in US-ASCII, then
that's all it needs to send as (the first 127 characters of UTF-8 are
the same as US-ASCII).

Cutting and pasting into mail clients was a common problem with other
systems, I don't know how Mutt would handle that.  Though I think Fedora
handles that all internally in the same way.  Unlike some Windows
clients, where a copy from a UTF-8 page into a client using Windows-1252
encoding, often went bad, as the copy and paste didn't transcode.

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Re: How to swee youtube videos,

[Tim]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 21:42 +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> I'm not a Mutt user but I guess that if send_charset is unset it will 
> automatically choose the "smallest" encoding that can encode all of
> the characters you used. In this case the ó couldn't be encoded in
> ASCII, but it could be encoded in ISO 8859-1, so Mutt chose ISO
> 8859-1, transcoded your text into ISO 8859-1, and specified
> "charset=iso-8859-1" in the Content-Type header, quite correctly.

Me either (not a Mutt user, I really dislike it), but that is the
general rule for clients:  Use the appropriate encoding (what you
actually used), but send as US-ASCII if that's all that's needed.
However, if you're preset to use UTF-8, it should be using just UTF-8 or
ASCII, not some other scheme that could also do the job.

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Re: How to swee youtube videos,

[Tim]

Björn Persson
>> Do you often receive emails that are encoded in UTF-8 but claim to be some 
>> other encoding? If not, I suggest that you stop enforcing any particular 
>> encoding. Let Thunderbird use the encoding that is specified in each 
>> individual message, and all will be good as long as the messages adhere to 
>> standards.

g:
> i tried that but type would change in size and i had to squint or lean
> back to read messages, along with stretching page sides. after going
> thru a lot of trouble, i have *all* settings to utf-8 and do best i
> can to figure out what crude is.

And that's your problem, the only characters that are compatible with
UTF-8, are the US-ASCII ones.  After that (character 127), there's
differences.  You have to use the correct encoding.

If you're seeing changes in fonts depending on the encoding used, have a
play with your client's font preferences.  You might have to manually
select font families for different encodings (named after localities,
rather than listed as ISO-8859-x specifications, in Thunderbird).  You
probably want to untick the option to allow messages to use other fonts.

Fonts issues are one thing I really dislike about Firefox and
Thunderbird, they've convoluted it all to hell, and use *pixel* sizes in
a disastrous fashion.

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Re: messed-up encoding

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i thought that was with 2 'r's.


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Re: Live USB-stick format

[Bill Davidsen]

Anne Wilson wrote:
I want F9 on a USB stick.  It's 8GB, and comes with a few files concerned with 
using it on windows, so I don't really care whether they survive or not.


Most of my hardware is not so young, and doesn't boot off usb sticks.  
However, the EeePC should do - it does from a Mandriva flash drive.  It lists 
the drive, in BIOS, enclosed in [ ] which seems to mean that it is not 
bootable, so I looked at the drive with fdisk.  It says


 Disk /dev/sdc1: 8120MB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B 
Partition Table: loop  


and that 'The flag 'boot' is not available for loop disk labels'

Obviously I've done something wrong, but what?


Best guess is that you formatted it without a partition table and/or 
boot sector. Try "fdisk -l" as root and see if you get more information.


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Re: How to remove a user. Problems after firstboot crashed on F9

[Tim]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 20:28 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote:
> The question is. How do I remove the original user that was partially
> setup before firstboot crashed.

Command line:  userdel
GUI tool:  system-config-users 

> If I run adduser, It says that djmons is already a user, but logging
> in as djmons has no access to /home/djmons, as apparently
> the /home/djmons directory does not exist.

You could try making the directory, changing its ownership to
djmons:djmons, then seeing if KDE or Gnome creates the files it needs
when you log in.

But it's probably easier to login as someone else, remove the broken
user, delete the homespace, and create that user again.

> I've never had such problems before with Fedora like this.
> 
> Is firstboot crashing a known problem?

Haven't seen that, but have seen something similar when I decided to see
what would happen if I created a user outside of /home.  I entered a
different path into the gadget in system-config-users, one that did have
all the right SELinux contexts set up (for user homespaces), in advance.

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Re: mounting external usb drives

[Bill Davidsen]

Gerhard Magnus wrote:

The setup I had for my 2 external usb hard drives that worked in FC8
seems to be restricting use of these drives to root in FC9.

I added the directories /mnt/usb_232GB and /mnt/usb_93B and altered the
fstab to include these lines:

/dev/sdd1   /mnt/usb_232GB  autouser,auto   0 0
/dev/sde1   /mnt/usb_93GB   autouser,auto   0 0

Both drives have been formatted as ext3. I can access both but can't
write to them except as root. How can I make them write-accessible to
all users?

You have to set the permissions *after* the USB is mounted, then change 
the directory mode to 777, or for some tiny bit of sanity 1777:

  chmod 1777 /mnt/usb_93GB

Now, having given you that, I *strongly* suggest that you change fstab 
to use the UUID of the filesystem. That makes it work if you only plug 
in one, if you plug them in the wrong ports, if FC10 probes the USB bus 
ass-backwards from FC9, or other ways you can shoot yourself in the foot.


Redhat 8 (or maybe 9) would occasionally install on a system with two 
SCSI controllers and probe them in one order for install and the other 
for runtime boot, which changes all the device names. It took me two 
hours to find and fix that, in the "pre-UUID" days. Late on a Friday. 
With a 131 mile drive to get home. With something as easy to change as 
pluggable devices, I suggest you avoid this learning experience.



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Re: ssh / bind help?

[Ed Greshko]

Bill Davidsen wrote:


The value on an IP reverse lookup is unknown to me, there may be none.


*That* was the question.

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Re: F8/F9 Multiboot question

[Tim]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 15:56 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> What is the command for installing the "MBR" and grub into each
> of their respective partitions?
> 
> I tried: grub-install --recheck /dev/sdc1, and likewise for /dev/sdc2
> and /dev/sdc3 but nothing happens.

I've never bothered with grub-install, other than the one time it didn't
do what it was supposed to.  After that I decided not to bother with it
again.  I issue the real commands directly:

The grub command to enter a GRUB shell.  
The root command to tell GRUB where /boot will be (and GRUB's root is
held).  
The find command to check that GRUB can find the files it needs.  
The setup command to setup which drive MBR to write to, or which
partition.
And the quit command to write all the changes and exit.  

Pasting of a session is below, the GRUB input prompts are beside
"grub>", the rest is output.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# grub
Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.


GNU GRUB  version 0.97  (640K lower / 3072K upper memory)

 [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported.  For the first word, TAB
   lists possible command completions.  Anywhere else TAB lists the
possible
   completions of a device/filename.]
grub> root (hd0,0)
root (hd0,0)
 Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
grub>  find /grub/stage1
find /grub/stage1
 (hd0,0)
grub> setup (hd0)
setup (hd0)
 Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no
 Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... yes
 Checking if "/grub/stage2" exists... yes
 Checking if "/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes
 Running "embed /grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)"...  23 sectors are embedded.
succeeded
 Running "install /grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+23 p
(hd0,0)/grub/stage2 /grub/grub.conf"... succeeded
Done.
grub> quit
quit
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My set of examples picks my first boot partition (the root command), and
writes back to the disc's MBR (the setup command).  You'd change the
root and setup parameters to suit each installation, to install GRUB
"stage ones" into each boot partition.  In your case, you'd pick the
same drive and partition for the root and setup commands.

By the way, grub-install is just a script.  You can read it and see how
it works, if you really want to.

> Since I had copies of /boot for f8 and f9 I simply copied f8's boot
> files into /dev/sdc2 and f9's boot files into /dev/sdc3 but
> for /dev/sdc1 (boot-sys), I copied f8's boot files into /dev/sdc1,
> removed initd*, vm*, and System*, edited grub/grub.conf with the
> chain-loaders like you said.

Hmm, I don't know exactly what you mean by "boot files".  Each /boot
partition would have that OS's kernel files, and a grub sub-directory
for that installation's GRUB files (menus, stage loaders, etc.).  There
shouldn't be any need to copy things about.

Inside /boot/grub:

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 63 2008-06-01 01:39 device.map
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  11768 2008-06-01 01:39 e2fs_stage1_5
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  11528 2008-06-01 01:39 fat_stage1_5
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  10776 2008-06-01 01:39 ffs_stage1_5
-rw--- 1 root root   1700 2008-07-27 16:47 grub.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  10768 2008-06-01 01:39 iso9660_stage1_5
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  12440 2008-06-01 01:39 jfs_stage1_5
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2008-06-01 01:39 menu.lst -> ./grub.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  10984 2008-06-01 01:39 minix_stage1_5
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  83780 2008-06-30 12:22 mixer-cropped.xpm.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  85014 2008-06-30 12:22 mixer.xpm.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  13376 2008-06-01 01:39 reiserfs_stage1_5
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  66003 2008-04-12 05:32 splash.xpm.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root512 2008-06-01 01:39 stage1
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 110532 2008-06-01 01:39 stage2
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  11040 2008-06-01 01:39 ufs2_stage1_5
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  10376 2008-06-01 01:39 vstafs_stage1_5
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  13016 2008-06-01 01:39 xfs_stage1_5

> But I am at loss to figure out how to get each of the 3 partitions
> with it's own "MBR".

Terminology problem...  MBR is Master Boot Record, there's only one of
them per disc.  Initial stages of GRUB can be put in the disc MBR, or at
the beginning of individual partitions (not a MBR, but something
similar, and a mental blank strikes me as to its proper name).

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Re: F8 & F9 (i386/i686): Problems with sendmail & dovecot

[Bill Davidsen]

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

you quoted this without reading some of it...



The /var/log/maillog shows:
=
Aug  1 16:20:06 gold sendmail[3269]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): 
/etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 97: fileclass: cannot open 
'/etc/mail/local-host-names': Group writable directory

   ^

I would bet that /etc/mail is group writable. Or possibly /etc itself!

Aug  1 16:20:06 gold sendmail[3269]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): 
/etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 619: fileclass: cannot open 
'/etc/mail/trusted-users': Group writable directory
Aug  1 16:20:06 gold sendmail[3273]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): 
/etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 97: fileclass: cannot open 
'/etc/mail/local-host-names': Group writable directory
Aug  1 16:20:06 gold sendmail[3273]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): 
/etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 619: fileclass: cannot open 
'/etc/mail/trusted-users': Group writable directory
Aug  1 16:20:06 gold sendmail[3273]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): 
/etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 1743: Xclamav-milter: local socket name 
/var/run/clamav-milter/clamav.sock unsafe: Group writable directory
Aug  1 16:20:06 gold sm-msp-queue[3280]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): 
/etc/mail/submit.cf: line 554: fileclass: cannot open 
'/etc/mail/trusted-users': Group writable directory
Aug  1 09:22:58 gold dovecot: Time just moved backwards by 25199 
seconds. This might cause a lot of problems, so I'll just kill myself 
now. http://wiki.dovecot.org/TimeMovedBackwards


Note the last line: I already posted a date/time setting problem in a 
seperate thread.
Date/Time randomly changes either in the future or in the past upon a 
reboot and

no, it's not the BIOS battery - it is brand new!

I checked the permissions in /etc/mail and all of the file there shows
no group writable permissions:

/etc/mail:
===
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  7178715 2008-01-14 18:35 access
-rw-r- 1 root root 10334208 2008-01-14 18:35 access.db
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   84 2008-01-25 12:44 authinfo
-rw-r- 1 root root12288 2008-01-25 12:44 authinfo.db
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-01-25 13:57 backup
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  233 2007-11-22 05:53 domaintable
-rw-r- 1 root root12288 2008-01-07 15:29 domaintable.db
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   45 2008-01-09 16:54 generics-domains
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  347 2008-06-14 10:59 genericstable
-rw-r- 1 root root12288 2008-06-14 11:40 genericstable.db
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 5584 2007-11-22 05:53 helpfile
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   94 2008-07-04 17:43 local-host-names
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  997 2007-11-22 05:53 mailertable
-rw-r- 1 root root12288 2008-01-07 15:29 mailertable.db
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1048 2007-11-22 05:53 Makefile
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root60875 2008-01-26 14:04 sendmail.cf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root60985 2008-01-26 13:55 sendmail.cf.bak
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7988 2008-01-26 14:04 sendmail.mc
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-06-28 15:53 spamassassin
-r--r--r-- 1 root root41716 2007-11-22 05:53 submit.cf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  941 2007-11-22 05:53 submit.mc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  154 2008-01-09 17:53 trusted-users
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2715 2008-06-14 10:57 virtusertable
-rw-r- 1 root root12288 2008-06-14 11:40 virtusertable.db

Hmm... what seems to be the problem here?


Keep your hardware clock in UTC. Everywhere. The most common cause of 
this is the clock is in UTC in Linux and the machine is infected with a 
trojan called "Windows" which defaults to local time. It will run 
hardware clock in UTC, you just have to slap it up aside the registry. 
Sorry, I haven't fixed this for anyone in several years, you have to 
look up how to do this, but that's *very* likely to be the problem.


I suggest running ntpd to keep your clock accurate, but that's not any 
part of this problem.


Dan




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Re: How to recover root password

[Bill Davidsen]

Ricky wrote:

Hi,

I had a root passwd which was so secure that even i cannot remember it 
now, lol!


Can Someone help as to how i can recover it???


Any suggestions???

If the owner of the system was even slightly security conscious there is 
not only a root password, but a grub password, a boot sequence which 
only includes the disk, and a BIOS password so the boot sequence can't 
be changed.


If the system is secure you also need the passwords for each encrypted 
filesystem.


These are good steps to follow, particularly with a laptop, even if you 
think you never answered any questions, keep no secure information, etc.


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Re: messed-up encoding

[Ric Moore]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 09:17 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> This is true. Perhaps the OP used the accent because he thinks the app
> is named after the Catalan artist Joan Miró, though the site doesn't
> appear to say this. OTOH, "miro" without an accent is Spanish for "I
> watch", so who knows? I mailed the devs about it sometime last year
> (when they changed the name) but they never gave a straight answer.

I thought that was a trademarked name of a pressure cooker. :) Ric

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Re: disk controller/device errors?

[Jeffrey Ross]

Tim wrote:

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 11:03 -0400, Jeffrey Ross wrote:
  

If I'm reading correctly the two devices its complaining about are the
CD and DVD drives in the system:



You'll also want to tell the list about things like:

Are those errors happening all the time?  i.e. You see them repeatedly
throughout the log, and you can't see any reason why (such as the follow
up questions).

Do they happen at times when there are discs in the drives, or not?

Do they just happen after inserting a disc, and the system is trying to
work out what to do about it?

Do they happen while reading discs?

Do discs apparently behave normally, despite the error warnings?

  

I realized that after I sent the message...

system is Fedora 9 - x86_64 kernel 2.6.25.10-86.fc9.x86_64.

The errors are pretty regular, almost every 56 minutes and while the DVD 
and CD disks are idle.  I don't use them (the CD/DVD rom drives) that 
often so I don't know for sure if its affecting their use, I'll try 
writing some files out and see what happens, I'll try to time it during 
the next expected "event."


The system disks are SATA drives and are not associated with those 
device numbers.


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Re: mouse wheel workspace switcher?

[fred smith]

On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 12:39:43PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 10:49 -0400, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> > On Saturday 02 August 2008 03:43:06 pm g wrote:
> > > Beartooth wrote:
> > > > Anyone recognize the feature and know where the
> > > > setting is found?
> > >
> > > 'control center > desktop > behavior > general > mouse button actions'
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > hago:
> > 
> > While it's true that in F8 with KDE 3.5.9. the mouse wheel can be used to 
> > switch desktops as Beartooth described, I haven't found a way to do that in 
> > F9 with either KDE 4 or Gnome, and Beartooth was referring to F9. It _is_ 
> > part of the XFCE desktop, and has been for some time.
> 
> In both KDE 3.5 and KDE 4.x, you can use the scroll wheel when the mouse
> is over the pager icon in the panel.

Wow. new hidden features!

It works in Gnome too. Though I concur with the later poster who asked
why, if the mouse is already over the switcher you'd need (or find it
easier) to use the scrollwheel.


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Re: disk controller/device errors?

[Tim]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 11:03 -0400, Jeffrey Ross wrote:
> If I'm reading correctly the two devices its complaining about are the
> CD and DVD drives in the system:

You'll also want to tell the list about things like:

Are those errors happening all the time?  i.e. You see them repeatedly
throughout the log, and you can't see any reason why (such as the follow
up questions).

Do they happen at times when there are discs in the drives, or not?

Do they just happen after inserting a disc, and the system is trying to
work out what to do about it?

Do they happen while reading discs?

Do discs apparently behave normally, despite the error warnings?

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Re: ssh / bind help?

[Russell Miller]

Bill Davidsen wrote:
Adding the trailing dot, for names, prevents the value of the 'search' 
field in /etc/resolve.com from being used. So

  host fubar.bazfaz.net
could resolve to fubar.bazfaz.net.your.domain, if your DNS has a 
wildcard MX record (like *.your.domain) would return a pointer to the 
mail server for any address in your domain. If you add a trailing dot 
that doesn't happen.


The value on an IP reverse lookup is unknown to me, there may be none.

I'm not entirely sure, but I think that trailing dot will cause it to 
treat it as a forward and not a reverse lookup.  Remember reverse 
lookups get translated to 4oc.3oc.2oc.1oc.in-addr.arpa.


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Creating a local repository

[Bill Davidsen]

I have two questions on this, or at least 1.5 since I have a workaround 
for one issue.


I turned on the flag in yum.conf to keep rpms in /var/cache/yum, so I 
could avoid beating repositories and networks doing upgrades after an 
install. I put them in a directory, burned a DVD, and I can mount it for 
upgrades, using "yum localupgrade /media/dvd/*.rpm" or similar.


However, I know that someday I will get the "command line too long" 
message, and decided to create a repository. And it looks as if the 
'createrepo' utility is broken. I tried it on my normal machine for FC9, 
and then on 'vestial,' my virgin install which uses only the official 
and production RPMs, no 3rd party, no testing, no rawhide, this is as 
stable as Fedora gets.


Failed the same way there.

So question one: is createrepo broken in FC9?

Then I moved the RPMs to another machine, an old FC6 machine I need to 
use some drivers never updates past FC6. The createrepo there worked 
fine, now how do I use it? Is it best to export via HTTP, or FTP, or NFS 
mount, or ??? I don't find clear docs on doing this, and I'd like to get 
the capability while the "old way" still works.


I'm probably going to wind up doing this for CentOS-5.2 as well, just as 
a time saver.


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Re: ssh / bind help?

[Bill Davidsen]

Ed Greshko wrote:

William Murray wrote:

 Hello guys,
  I have 5 machines in a home network, all running F9, 
with named/bind providing local DNS.
A couple of weeks ago a problem appeared: ssh hangs for internal  
connections. No doubt
I had misconfigured the thing years ago, as bind mystifies me, but an 
update must have triggered it.


The problem is that reverse lookups hang forever; here is the end of 
"ssh -vvv XXX"

debug1: Next authentication method: gssapi-with-mic
debug3: Trying to reverse map address 168.254.0.251.
Note the 'dot' at the end.
If I try nslookup 168.254.0.251 it works fine, but 168.254.0.251. does 
not.


Just curious  Why do you want to use "168.254.0.251."  If you were 
to use a trailing . on IP addresses outside of your maps you'd find they 
wouldn't get resolved either.


$ host 64.236.24.12
12.24.236.64.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer www3.cnn.com.
$ host 64.236.24.12.
Host 64.236.24.12 not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
$ host 64.236.24.12
12.24.236.64.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer www3.cnn.com.

So, just don't know what value adding the trailing . has for you or what 
you are expecting.


Adding the trailing dot, for names, prevents the value of the 'search' 
field in /etc/resolve.com from being used. So

  host fubar.bazfaz.net
could resolve to fubar.bazfaz.net.your.domain, if your DNS has a 
wildcard MX record (like *.your.domain) would return a pointer to the 
mail server for any address in your domain. If you add a trailing dot 
that doesn't happen.


The value on an IP reverse lookup is unknown to me, there may be none.

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Re: Disk error

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 16:54 -0700, Russell Miller wrote:
> Don't forget that some DVDs (particularly ones made by Sony) have some
> deliberately corrupted sectors in them that will cause IO errors on 
> anything but an approved DVD player (they know to skip past them).

You're thinking of prerecorded DVD movies, and the problem isn't the
physical sector but the deliberately incorrect index information in some
video files. Note that DVD drives in PCs can play these movies perfectly
well.

This has nothing to do with the case in hand, which is of a non-DRM DVD
data image recorded by the user.

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Re: OT: Re: Replies to newbies

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> Les H

what ever churns your butter...



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Re: I am using Mozilla Firefox but the icons/fonts are too small ...

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> … and if that turns out to be useless, install the "No Squint" extension.

i saw that last time i was getting plug-ins, but did not read what
it was for type and i use  and  for type so i did
not read it.

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Re: OT: Re: Replies to newbies

[Les]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 17:55 +, g wrote:
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> Anne Wilson wrote:
> 
> > Your single-line reply to someone who has English as a second language
> was:
> >
> > so just what in hell is 'Mir[0xef 0xbf,0xbd]'???
> 
> well kafba. i thought i had done something wrong...
> 
> > I don't find that polite, tactful, or helpful.
> 
> your findings.
> 
> because i used word 'hell'?
> 
> or because i used hex notations?
> 
> 
> > I approached you quiety, off-list, so that you could consider the
> > matter calmly.
> 
> no need to approach me quietly. not when it regards something that
> i posted to this list.
> 
> as far as being calm. i was calm. but to consider what i wrote to
> be 'off tone', that is a little upsetting.
> 
> hell, i thought i had really screwed up somewhere. but it seems that
> you are only one to have been offended.
> 
> so, if my using word 'hell' offends you, then say so. damn, you had
> me worried that i had really fucked up.
> 
> so, i apologies for using word 'hell'. and i sure as shit will not
> use it again in any damn thread that that you are in.
> 
> btw, quiety is spelled quietly, teacher.
> 
> 
> - --
> 
> tc,hago.
> 
> g
> .
> 
> in a free world without fences, who needs gates.
> 
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> 
Profanity in any public context is always rude, and unnecessary, as well
as unclear.  If you don't have the vocabulary to express your
intentions, then at least be polite and just say "I don't understand
'the unclear part'".

We progress in life from the inability to express ourselves at birth
toward clarity at our death bed.  

I hope I have been clear, but I also hope I am a long way from the
destination.

Regards,
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Re: Disk error

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Patrick Dupre wrote:

> The check sum is correct of the PC I used to burnt the DVD.

what about target? system you are wanting to install on? or is it oos?
if so, this is where you also need a live cd so you can do such things
as working with '/dev' and k3b. you can get sha1 and md5 for msbsos.

> sha1sum /dev/sr0 on the same drive does not complain, but it is not
> clear to me what I should get !

losing me with 'same drive'. same drive your burned with? this shows
your burn is ok.

sha1sum output should be same as in file you named with 'sha1sum -c'.

> I guess it does both

not good to guess. see below.

>> if you have k3b on both systems, do 'read' specs compare?
> No, I do not have k3b

would be good to install. does a better job of letting you know about
what drive can do.

> I probably have some problem with the DVD reader, and I should have

you can replace with a decent 16x burner for around $50.00 that works
with most +/- and most will burn dvd +r.

btw. now that you are into 'inline' posting, deleting 'history' is a
good thing to do. this also make messages easier to follow.


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Re: tail command : differences between solaris and linux

[Cameron Simpson]

On 03Aug2008 11:39, Skunk Worx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've noticed if I try to install the JMF (Java Media Framework),  
> downloaded from Sun Micro, the script fails :
>
> $ sh ./jmf-2_1_1e-linux-i586.bin
> $ Unpacking...
> 
> tail: cannot open `+309' for reading: No such file or directory
> Extracting...
> ./install.sfx.5451: line 1: ==: No such file or directory
> ./install.sfx.5451: line 3: syntax error near unexpected token `)'
> 
>
> ...and the script ends up zero-length.
>
> ...and if I restore the file, then change the tail command that is  
> trying to dump out the code section :
>
> $ sed -i 's/tail +309/tail -n +309/g' jmf-2_1_1e-linux-i586.bin
>
> ...it's ok.
>
> So, they use "tail +309" and Fedora 9 needs "tail -n +309". Google shows  
> people have seen this under Ubuntu as well.

The latter syntax is POSIXly correct. Looks like they've got
historic usage on Solaris in their script. Certainly historicaly
the usage:

  tail -100 file

for the _last_ 100 lines has been supported forever (though not required
by POSIX, which made all command line options conform to the standard
forms, hence the -n), and on Solaris it looks like a bare +number is
supported just like the bare -number.

But a quick check on a Gentoo box here does not support +number. A check on
MacOSX _does_ support +number. So it looks like the GNU tools are a bit
less helpful here, though still standard compliant.

Sun _should_ be shipping their script with "tail -n +309", unless
Solaris doesn't support that. It's quite possible that on Solaris
/bin/tail does not accept -n, and another version (eg in /usr/xpg4/bin)
would. But they must ship their script to work with the default
/bin/tail on Solaris. And before you whinge about that being deficient,
they may have left /bin/tail unchanged because that keeps their
customers' scripting expectations stable. Plenty of vendors have
to keep things stable for the "installed base". The same effect is why a
RedHat Enterprise box runs "old" software, and backports security and
bug fixes to the older code instead of upgrading to "current" - it keeps
the platform stable, and for enterprise stuff that's important.

Of course, the portable thing it to just move to saying:

  sed 1,308d

instead of using "tail +number". Portable, stable.

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Re: I am using Mozilla Firefox but the icons/fonts are too small ...

[Sam Varshavchik]

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I am using Mozilla Firefox but the icons/fonts are too small ... how can
I make the screen "bigger?  Thanks for any help!


on menu bar, select 'edit > preferences' then go thru setups.


… and if that turns out to be useless, install the "No Squint" extension.



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Re: Disk error

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Russell Miller wrote:

> Don't forget that some DVDs (particularly ones made by Sony) have some
> deliberately corrupted sectors in them that will cause IO errors on
> anything but an approved DVD player (they know to skip past them).

deliberate or poorly made?

i only use maxell at this time.

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Re: OT: Re: Replies to newbies

[Robert Holtzman]

On Sun, 3 Aug 2008, Björn Persson wrote:


söndagen den 3 augusti 2008 skrev g:

ok. just where in hell was i being 'off tone'???


Well that's one example right there. "Hell" and three question marks seems
somewhat rude.


Give me a break!!! "Hell" is used in every day conversation and the 
question marks are for emphasis. Do you have a problem with that? If so, 
why?


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Re: Disk error

[Russell Miller]

g wrote:


in trying to follow along with what poc has gone thru with you and
getting back to check sums, i am a little lost. i think. not sure. so
excuse me if i repeat something.

in reading check sums and having 2 dvd drives:

on which drive did you run sha1sum? running 'sha1sum /dev/sr0' on both
drives and both giving same results as when you checked iso file, will
verify both drives, if they match value from sha1sum file. have you
tried this? also, sha1sum will give you indication of drive ability to
read entire dvd.
  
Don't forget that some DVDs (particularly ones made by Sony) have some 
deliberately corrupted sectors in them that will cause IO errors on 
anything but an approved DVD player (they know to skip past them).


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Re: I am using Mozilla Firefox but the icons/fonts are too small ...

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> I am using Mozilla Firefox but the icons/fonts are too small ... how can
> I make the screen "bigger?  Thanks for any help!

on menu bar, select 'edit > preferences' then go thru setups.


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Re: How to swee youtube videos,

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Björn Persson wrote:


 "g" wrote:
>> Björn Persson wrote:
>>> everything as UTF-8?
>> yes. 8859 throws up garbage characters just as bad as utf-8, but utf-8
>> tends to keep it down to 1 or 2.
> 
> Do you often receive emails that are encoded in UTF-8 but claim to be some 
> other encoding? If not, I suggest that you stop enforcing any particular 
> encoding. Let Thunderbird use the encoding that is specified in each 
> individual message, and all will be good as long as the messages adhere to 
> standards.

i tried that but type would change in size and i had to squint or lean
back to read messages, along with stretching page sides. after going
thru a lot of trouble, i have *all* settings to utf-8 and do best i can
to figure out what crude is.

as an example, you and several others, in some cases, your Björn is as
here, in other places, it is an inverse question mark in a 45 degree
rotated black square. some places, 'sender' column, it is just ? in 45
box. and i do note that it does depend on where you are sending from.
which shows me that you do not have all you email set up same way. [yes,
i use  often]

> You may also want to review the thread "Curious characters in Thunderbird on 
> Linux...", started by Kevin Martin last Wednesday, 17:15:13-05:00.

yes, i have been following it. and one of places you have ? boxed in
sender. which, all in all, tends to tell me you like to play around.
not knocking. just commenting. ;0)


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Re: Disk error

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Patrick Dupre wrote:
> It looks like that it is a problem with the DVD reader, bit it is bizard
> because I can mount the DVD with an installed linux by using the same
> reader !

in trying to follow along with what poc has gone thru with you and
getting back to check sums, i am a little lost. i think. not sure. so
excuse me if i repeat something.

in reading check sums and having 2 dvd drives:

on which drive did you run sha1sum? running 'sha1sum /dev/sr0' on both
drives and both giving same results as when you checked iso file, will
verify both drives, if they match value from sha1sum file. have you
tried this? also, sha1sum will give you indication of drive ability to
read entire dvd.

some drives read dvd + r, some read dvd -r. some read/write both, some
only one or other.

if you have k3b on both systems, do 'read' specs compare?

this is presuming both have linux. if not, would you happen to have
a knoppix 4 or 5 that you can boot to get dvd read specs? even having
just a live cd with a distrib that has k3b will enable you to get drive
specs.

this is all getting involved, but it what is needed to ensure that you
will end up with linux setups that you will enjoy and not just give up
and go back to oos. [other operating system]

linux is critical about hardware. but if linux had support of oem's
it would be more of a breeze as is oos. but, in long run, you will be
happier with linux and in time find that it really is a better system.

later.

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I am using Mozilla Firefox but the icons/fonts are too small ...

[disneydave]

I am using Mozilla Firefox but the icons/fonts are too small ... how  
can I make the screen "bigger?  Thanks for any help!


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Re: F8/F9 Multiboot question

[Daniel B. Thurman]

Tim wrote:


On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 20:08 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> What I'd like to know is, how can I convert my existing setup or
> partition layout so that each of the Fedora partitions are bootable
> with grub installed for which chain-loader will work?

When installing extra OSs, don't install the bootloader to the disc MBR,
but to the boot partition for that OS (with each OS having its own boot
partition).

At a simplistic level, you might install an OS with individual
partitions like the following:

system boot  (e.g. /dev/sda1)
Fedora boot  (e.g. /dev/sda2)
Fedora /
Ubuntu boot
Ubuntu /
Debian boot
Debian /
OpenBSD boot
OpenBSD /

The system boot would just be where GRUB has a few files, that the BIOS
will read to start booting.  This will be your boot menu, and to boot
other OSs you'll chainload to their own boot partitions.  When you boot
up, you'll see the initial boot menu (offering just Fedora, Ubuntu,
Debian, OpenBSD, etc., and when you pick one of them, you'll move over
to the boot menu for that distro - where you can pick which particular
kernel they'll boot with, or just go with their defaults).

To change existing installations over to working this way, you'd need to
already have boot partitions for each one, and you'd reinstall their
bootloaders to their own boot partitions.  e.g. You'd install Fedora's
GRUB to /dev/sda2 not /dev/sda.

Some people will share a boot partition between different OSs, but that
*may* be a problem, if one of them updates kernels and messed with
others.  It shouldn't happen, but I've read postings about it.

> In the past, I had nightmares trying to figure this out, and was not
> successful, but then I was not using chain-loaders either. From my
> past experiences, for some reason I got the idea that it was a no-no
> to have /boot installed in / - I forget why exactly - but I found that
> /boot worked if it had it's own partition which explains my particular
> partition layout.  It would save me a partition for other uses if I
> can get /boot embedded within / - that would be very cool!

If boot is just a directory inside /, it might be located on a part of
the disc that the basic motherboard BIOS cannot access, so you won't be
able to boot up.  When you make boot partitions, you can control where
they're created, and create them in a place that BIOS can actually read.

Some people think that a boot directory inside / is fine, rather than a
partition, because it works for them, at *that* time.  But later on, as
they install updates and other files, the location of boot-up files
(e.g. kernel and initrd files) moves around, and can end up in an
unreadable (by the BIOS) place.


What is the command for installing the "MBR" and grub into each
of their respective partitions?

I tried: grub-install --recheck /dev/sdc1, and likewise for /dev/sdc2 and
/dev/sdc3 but nothing happens.  Since I had copies of /boot for f8 and f9
I simply copied f8's boot files into /dev/sdc2 and f9's boot files into
/dev/sdc3 but for /dev/sdc1 (boot-sys), I copied f8's boot files into
/dev/sdc1, removed initd*, vm*, and System*, edited grub/grub.conf
with the chain-loaders like you said.  But I am at loss to figure out how
to get each of the 3 partitions with it's own "MBR".

Thanks!
Dan

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Installing printer driver

[Adil Drissi]

Hi,

My fedora 8 detected automatically the printer when turned it on. The problem 
is that it hasn't the right model so it made by default another model (i have 
sumsung ML-5010 and it assumed that it was compatible with 5050). I keep all 
the default options but after that i am unable to print. So do you have any 
suggestions?

Thanks


  

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mounting external usb drives

[Gerhard Magnus]

The setup I had for my 2 external usb hard drives that worked in FC8
seems to be restricting use of these drives to root in FC9.

I added the directories /mnt/usb_232GB and /mnt/usb_93B and altered the
fstab to include these lines:

/dev/sdd1   /mnt/usb_232GB  autouser,auto   0 0
/dev/sde1   /mnt/usb_93GB   autouser,auto   0 0

Both drives have been formatted as ext3. I can access both but can't
write to them except as root. How can I make them write-accessible to
all users?

Thanks for the help!  --Jerry


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Re: ssh / bind help?

[Ed Greshko]

William Murray wrote:

 Hello guys,
  I have 5 machines in a home network, all running F9, with 
named/bind providing local DNS.
A couple of weeks ago a problem appeared: ssh hangs for internal  
connections. No doubt
I had misconfigured the thing years ago, as bind mystifies me, but an 
update must have triggered it.


The problem is that reverse lookups hang forever; here is the end of 
"ssh -vvv XXX"

debug1: Next authentication method: gssapi-with-mic
debug3: Trying to reverse map address 168.254.0.251.
Note the 'dot' at the end.
If I try nslookup 168.254.0.251 it works fine, but 168.254.0.251. does not.


Just curious  Why do you want to use "168.254.0.251."  If you were to 
use a trailing . on IP addresses outside of your maps you'd find they 
wouldn't get resolved either.


$ host 64.236.24.12
12.24.236.64.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer www3.cnn.com.
$ host 64.236.24.12.
Host 64.236.24.12 not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
$ host 64.236.24.12
12.24.236.64.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer www3.cnn.com.

So, just don't know what value adding the trailing . has for you or what you 
are expecting.




Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong? Here is named.conf, in case 
that helps.

Thank you!

acl ashenden {
   168.254.0.0/24;
};

options {
   allow-query {
   168.254.0.0/24;
   localhost;
};

listen-on port 53 {
127.0.0.1;
ashenden;
};
   listen-on-v6 port 53 { ::1; };
   directory "/var/named";
   dump-file "/var/named/data/cache_dump.db";
   statistics-file "/var/named/data/named_stats.txt";
   memstatistics-file "/var/named/data/named_mem_stats.txt";
 recursion yes;
};

logging {
   channel default_debug {
   file "data/named.run";
   severity dynamic;
   };
};

zone "0.254.168.in-addr.arpa." IN {
   type master;
   file "168.254.0_0.db";
};
zone "ashenden." IN {
   type master;
   file "ashenden_0.db";
};
zone "." IN {
   type hint;
   file "named.ca";
};

include "/etc/named.rfc1912.zones";




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Konqueror problems in Fedora 9

[Dave Feustel]

I'm running Fedora 9. In the last few days I am getting frequent errors
from Konqueror. Konqueror reports unknown host even accessing followup
pages from websites it has already successfully contacted. I then switch
to Firefox 3 to read the page Konqueror did not find, and Firefox has
no problem displaying the page. All this on KDE 4.05.

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ssh / bind help?

[William Murray]

 Hello guys,
  I have 5 machines in a home network, all running F9, with 
named/bind providing local DNS.
A couple of weeks ago a problem appeared: ssh hangs for internal  
connections. No doubt
I had misconfigured the thing years ago, as bind mystifies me, but an 
update must have triggered it.


The problem is that reverse lookups hang forever; here is the end of 
"ssh -vvv XXX"

debug1: Next authentication method: gssapi-with-mic
debug3: Trying to reverse map address 168.254.0.251.
Note the 'dot' at the end.
If I try nslookup 168.254.0.251 it works fine, but 168.254.0.251. does not.

Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong? Here is named.conf, in case 
that helps.

Thank you!

acl ashenden {
   168.254.0.0/24;
};

options {
   allow-query {
   168.254.0.0/24;
   localhost;
};

listen-on port 53 {
127.0.0.1;
ashenden;
};
   listen-on-v6 port 53 { ::1; };
   directory "/var/named";
   dump-file "/var/named/data/cache_dump.db";
   statistics-file "/var/named/data/named_stats.txt";
   memstatistics-file "/var/named/data/named_mem_stats.txt";
  
   recursion yes;

};

logging {
   channel default_debug {
   file "data/named.run";
   severity dynamic;
   };
};

zone "0.254.168.in-addr.arpa." IN {
   type master;
   file "168.254.0_0.db";
};
zone "ashenden." IN {
   type master;
   file "ashenden_0.db";
};
zone "." IN {
   type hint;
   file "named.ca";
};

include "/etc/named.rfc1912.zones";

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Re: Disk error

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 22:20 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> It looks like that it is a problem with the DVD reader, bit it is bizard
> because I can mount the DVD with an installed linux by using the same
> reader !

That's not bizarre, it's just unlucky. Mounting the DVD only requires
reading a few sectors. Howver it could fail at some random future time
if anything tries to read a bad block.

Another potential cause is that the DVD itself is fine but the reader
can't seek as far as it needs to when doing the install.

And BTW *please* don't top-post! See how I replied below your message?
See how it makes it easier to read?

poc

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Re: Fedora core 9 frezzes up after 2 or 3 hours

[Russell Miller]

dump wrote:


Hello guys,

I’m new to this list, and I hope this is the right list to post this 
issue.


My guess is a video driver crash. Try seeing if it freezes without X 
running. Even if it does, there's a chance you might get some useful 
diagnostics out of it.


Also, try making sure /proc/sys/kernel/panic_on_oops (or its equivalent, 
it seems to have been changed in recent kernels) is set, and kernel 
crash dumping is on. If the kernel actually crashes, then a dump will be 
saved in swap and you might actually be able to figure out what's going on.


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Re: subpixel LCD fonts smoothing

[David Hláčik]

So far, i have found on forums there is no difference. So after installing
that freetype-freeword font smoothing on Fedora 9 will be same as on Ubuntu
?

Thanks,

David

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Frank Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:16:04 +0200
> David Hláčik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hello guys,
> >
> > whoa - i have just tried lastest ubuntu desktop to compare fonts
> smoothing,
> > because i really hate sandy fonts on fedora 9 - and i have noticed that
> > their subpixel fonts smoothing on LCDs is really wonderfull , like on
> > windows vista.
> >
> > So i am wondering, how can this be realized on Fedora 9?
>
> Install the Livna repository
>
> yum install freetype-freeworld
>
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Re: Disk error

[Patrick Dupre]

It looks like that it is a problem with the DVD reader, bit it is bizard
because I can mount the DVD with an installed linux by using the same
reader !



On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 20:19 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote:

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 15:00 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote:

sha1sum -c SHA1SUM
Fedora-9-i386-DVD.iso: OK


All that means is that the ISO file on your hard drive is not corrupted.
It says nothing about the DVD copy.

poc



This is what I got:

  sha1sum /dev/sr0
780a625141cc355305c9631f08981eb632cac0b9  /dev/sr0


I'm afraid telling us the hash value is of little use. It's either what
it's supposed to be (compare with the SHA1SUM file) or it isn't. If it
isn't, the DVD is bad. Rinse and repeat as needed.

Also, was the sha1sum run on the target machine or the source machine?
It's not clear from your earlier posts whether or not the laptop already
has a running Lnux system on it. If the check was run on the source
machine and passed, there could still be a problem with the target
machine.

Plus you still haven't said if you checked the *media*. The physical
composition of DVD blanks depends on the manufacturer and not all drives
work equally well with all brands. http://www.cdfreaks.com/media/ has a
lot of info on this kind of thing.

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Fedora core 9 frezzes up after 2 or 3 hours

[dump]

Hello guys,
 
I'm new to this list, and I hope this is the right list to post this issue.
 
Yesterday I upgraded my server from FC5 to FC9 without any problems. I was 
running FC5 for over a year without any problems, but because of the End of 
support, I thought lets upgrade it again. After the upgrade everything was 
working ok again, little bit jibling in the config files to get some deamons up 
and running again, but everything was up again. 
 
So after a good couple of hours (I upgraded with yum) of this upgrade I went to 
bed. In the morning (3 hours later after the upgrade) I found out that my box 
was not responding anymore, I went to the console and could input my user:root 
and password but then no prompt and no logon.
 
After a reboot (reset switch) I looked into the message file and found nothing. 
So I watched my system the following 2,5 hours and yes bam again it just froze 
on me, and again I couldn't logon to the console anymore.
 
In the past I had similar problems with this and that was because of power save 
(acpi) so I looked at the boot parameters, an there were still saying "ide0=dma 
ide1=dma pci=noacpi idebus=66". To be sure everything would be off on power 
save I changed this line to "ide0=dma ide1=dma idebus=66 pci=noacpi noacpi 
acpi=off apm=off"  (I know overkill) but still 2,5 hour later bam it froze 
again.
 
The only thing I can think off at this moment is that in FC5 I was using an smp 
kernel, maybe with the new kernel in FC9 there has been some changes on 
parameters for the kernel, or I missed something why this is happening.
 
I'm running a dual amd cpu system on a tyan tiger 760mpx board.
Kernel version using at the moment is : 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686
 
Thanks for the help.
 
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Re: How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

[Antonio Olivares]

> It's not a browser plugin, it's a a rich Multimedia
> application for your
> viewing pleasures :)
Yes :)
> 
> > Also I tried to watch a controversial video from you
> tube called the Root of all Evil
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2epvSAGuLc
> 
> For that video, just put it's video id code (
> X2epvSAGuLc ) into the search
> field and tell Miró to search on YouTube.
> 
> > But still thank you for sharing this, I will try it on
> i686 machine and maybe there it will work.  
> 
> I think you misused it. It's totally unrelated to the
> browser, it's
> another app sitting in the MultiMedia applications menu...
> :)
Yes it is there, but it hangs while loading :(.  It is not working correctly.  
Thank you anyhow for sharing this tool :)
> 
> Rui
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Re: no sound with totem

[Aaron Konstam]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 11:33 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 08:08 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 00:51 +0200, Bjoern Schiessle wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > on my laptop (Fedora9) totem plays all files without sound.
> > > 
> > > Installed packages:
> > > 
> > > # rpm -qa | grep totem
> > > totem-nautilus-2.23.2-5.fc9.x86_64
> > > totem-gstreamer-2.23.2-5.fc9.x86_64
> > > totem-pl-parser-2.22.3-1.fc9.x86_64
> > > totem-mozplugin-2.23.2-5.fc9.x86_64
> > > totem-2.23.2-5.fc9.x86_64
> > > totem-youtube-2.23.2-5.fc9.x86_64
> > > totem-xine-2.23.2-5.fc9.x86_64
> > > 
> > > # rpm -qa | grep gstreamer
> > > gstreamer-plugins-pulse-0.9.5-0.5.svn20070924.fc9.x86_64
> > > gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.19-2.fc9.x86_64
> > > gstreamer-plugins-schroedinger-1.0.3-2.fc9.x86_64
> > > gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.8-1.lvn9.x86_64
> > > gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux-0.10.15-2.fc9.x86_64
> > > gstreamer-0.10.19-1.fc9.x86_64
> > > gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.4-1.lvn9.x86_64
> > > gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.7-1.lvn9.x86_64
> > > totem-gstreamer-2.23.2-5.fc9.x86_64
> > > gstreamer-python-0.10.11-2.fc9.x86_64
> > > gstreamer-tools-0.10.19-1.fc9.x86_64
> > > gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.8-8.fc9.x86_64
> > > gstreamer-plugins-farsight-0.12.7-2.fc9.x86_64
> > > gstreamer-plugins-bad-extras-0.10.7-1.lvn9.x86_64
> > > 
> > > I have tried a mpeg4 video file, a mp3 and a Ogg Vorbis file. For all
> > > files i have no sound while other programs like rhythmbox and vlc can
> > > play the files.
> > > 
> > > Any ideas what could be wrong with totem?
> > > 
> > > best wishes,
> > > Björn
> > >From experience with other programs that did not produce sound I would
> > suggest you install:
> > libflashsupport
> 
> that's what we told you to do to get sound from youtube which is flash.
> That isn't gonna help him a bit.
> 
> 1 - install package xmms-mp3 (will play mp3)
> 
> 2 - execute 'totem-backend -b xine' (should help with online mp4)
> 
> I don't know about ogg format files though
> 
> Craig
I agree that was a shot in the dark,, but since adding that file also made the 
audio from the npr
 work and npr radio stream should not need flash as far as I can see so
I thought it was worth trying.

The fact is I have never gotten the totem from the fedora to work. I
always had to get it by installing totem-xine from livna. Now livna has
turned it over to fedora and it does not work for me. I did the steps
you indicate to totem several days ago and it still does not work for
me.


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Re: How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 01:38:32PM -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> I visted a site that requires flash and I get the following:
> 
> You need to install the Macromedia Flash Player plug-in to view all content 
> on this page. Do you want to download this plug-in now?

It's not a browser plugin, it's a a rich Multimedia application for your
viewing pleasures :)

> Also I tried to watch a controversial video from you tube called the Root of 
> all Evil
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2epvSAGuLc

For that video, just put it's video id code ( X2epvSAGuLc ) into the search
field and tell Miró to search on YouTube.

> But still thank you for sharing this, I will try it on i686 machine and maybe 
> there it will work.  

I think you misused it. It's totally unrelated to the browser, it's
another app sitting in the MultiMedia applications menu... :)

Rui

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Re: Problems with ralink (rt73) wireless USB connection

[Kevin J. Cummings]

Colin Paul Adams wrote:

I've freshly installed Fedora 9 on the (32-bit) machine, and I
discover that rt73usb-firmware is already installed.

So I went into system-network-config and tried adding the wireless
configuration. It seems straight-forward, but when I try to activate
the connection (I had to deselect the NetworkManager checkbox to try
this - what is Network Manager?) it fails to find IP information.


NetworkManager is a wireless networking manager.  It assumes that you 
might be using your computer in more than 1 location, which implies that 
you might routinely connect to more than 1 wireless network, therefore 
it tries to "manage" which wireless network you might connect to at any 
given time.


If you only intend to use your computer with a single wireless access 
point, you might want to consider using the network service instead. 
But, be warned, while network *can* connect to properly configured 
wireless connections, it was designed to manage primarily wired network 
connections.


I use network on my desktop/server, and I use NetworkManager on my 
laptop (where I now rarely use the ethernet cable) so when I travel, it 
makes connection to *other* wireless networks a little bit easier.


When I first got my laptop, it came with FC6 already installed on it. 
The first thing (OK, one of the first things) I did was try and use 
system-config-network to connect to my wireless connection in the house.
Due to probably a number of different things (my playing with 
configuration files, ipw3945 drivers, wpa-supplicant, and possibly even 
a tug of war between network and NetworkManager) my wireless experience 
under FC6 was less than useful.  Only after 6 months of software 
upgrades was I able to start to get reasonable connection rates on the 
wireless.  However, all of that changed on F9 when I upgraded.  My 
iwl3945 configuration works very well with NetworkManager (and network 
disabled).  Its still not perfect, but its *much* better than it used to be.



I checked the SSID and WEP key information (and I have other laptops -
a MacBook Air and a Sony Windows XP machine) working on the router.

How do I go about diagnosing the problem?


Look at your log files.  NetworkManager logs to /var/log/messages for 
me.  There are also interesting messages about your hardware's drivers 
when your system boots as well.  the output from "lsusb" can help others 
help you as well.


If your problem is that you've configured everything right, and its just 
the access point negotiation that fails, the logs from your router might 
contain useful information as well.



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Re: How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

[Antonio Olivares]

> > First, thank you for sharing this! :)
> >
> > Second, do you know that this will work in x86_64
> machine(s) running Fedora 9?
> 
> Unfortunately I don't have any x86_64 machine with
> Fedora, right now,
> but since I have seen Miró playing you tube videos on a
> x86_64 mahcine
> in Ubuntu, I exepect it will also work in Fedora for x86_64
I have installed it

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ su -
Password: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum list miro
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
updates  | 2.3 kB 00:00 
fedora   | 2.4 kB 00:01 
Error: No matching Packages to list
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum list Miro
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Available Packages
Miro.x86_64  1.2.4-2.fc9updates 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum install Miro
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package Miro.x86_64 0:1.2.4-2.fc9 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed for package: Miro
--> Running transaction check
---> Package gnome-python2-gtkmozembed.x86_64 0:2.19.1-17.fc9 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: gnome-python2-extras = 2.19.1-17.fc9 for package: 
gnome-python2-gtkmozembed
--> Running transaction check
--> Processing Dependency: gnome-python2-extras = 2.19.1-15.fc9 for package: 
gnome-python2-gtkhtml2
--> Processing Dependency: gnome-python2-extras = 2.19.1-15.fc9 for package: 
gnome-python2-libegg
---> Package gnome-python2-extras.x86_64 0:2.19.1-17.fc9 set to be updated
--> Running transaction check
---> Package gnome-python2-gtkhtml2.x86_64 0:2.19.1-17.fc9 set to be updated
---> Package gnome-python2-libegg.x86_64 0:2.19.1-17.fc9 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

=
 Package Arch   Version  RepositorySize 
=
Installing:
 Mirox86_64 1.2.4-2.fc9  updates   6.6 M
Updating:
 gnome-python2-extrasx86_64 2.19.1-17.fc9updates50 k
 gnome-python2-gtkhtml2  x86_64 2.19.1-17.fc9updates18 k
 gnome-python2-libeggx86_64 2.19.1-17.fc9updates58 k
Installing for dependencies:
 gnome-python2-gtkmozembed  x86_64 2.19.1-17.fc9updates31 k

Transaction Summary
=
Install  2 Package(s) 
Update   3 Package(s) 
Remove   0 Package(s) 

Total download size: 6.8 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
(1/5): Miro-1.2.4-2.fc9.x86_64.rpm   | 6.6 MB 21:36 
(2/5): gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.19.1-17.fc9.x86_64.rpm   |  18 kB 00:02 
(3/5): gnome-python2-libegg-2.19.1-17.fc9.x86_64.rpm |  58 kB 00:10 
(4/5): gnome-python2-extras-2.19.1-17.fc9.x86_64.rpm |  50 kB 00:08 
(5/5): gnome-python2-gtkmozembed-2.19.1-17.fc9.x86_64.rp |  31 kB 00:05 
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
  Updating  : gnome-python2-extras # [1/8] 
  Installing: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed# [2/8] 
  Updating  : gnome-python2-libegg # [3/8] 
  Updating  : gnome-python2-gtkhtml2   # [4/8] 
  Installing: Miro # [5/8] 
  Cleanup   : gnome-python2-extras # [6/8] 
  Cleanup   : gnome-python2-libegg # [7/8] 
  Cleanup   : gnome-python2-gtkhtml2   # [8/8] 

Installed: Miro.x86_64 0:1.2.4-2.fc9
Dependency Installed: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed.x86_64 0:2.19.1-17.fc9
Updated: gnome-python2-extras.x86_64 0:2.19.1-17.fc9 
gnome-python2-gtkhtml2.x86_64 0:2.19.1-17.fc9 gnome-python2-libegg.x86_64 
0:2.19.1-17.fc9
Complete!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# 

> 
> > Third, Does it also play flash cr*p, like ads in
> Firefox/Google, etc?
> 
> Erms... what do you mean?
> 
> /me scratches his head... remembers whi he has adblock and
> NoScript!
> 
> I don't think it installs any Firefox plugin...
Yes it does not!  You are correct :)
> 
> > This will make /me think about getting it.  
> 
> Try, at worst case you'll have wasted a few mega bytes
> of download and a
> few minutes :)

Yep that was it :(

> 
> Rui
> 
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I visted a site that requires flash and I get the following:

You need to install the Macromedia Flash Player plug-in to view all content on 
this page. Do you want to download this plug-in now?

Also I tried to watch a controversial video from 

Re: subpixel LCD fonts smoothing

[Frank Cox]

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:16:04 +0200
David Hláčik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello guys,
> 
> whoa - i have just tried lastest ubuntu desktop to compare fonts smoothing,
> because i really hate sandy fonts on fedora 9 - and i have noticed that
> their subpixel fonts smoothing on LCDs is really wonderfull , like on
> windows vista.
> 
> So i am wondering, how can this be realized on Fedora 9?

Install the Livna repository

yum install freetype-freeworld

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Problems with ralink (rt73) wireless USB connection

[Colin Paul Adams]

I've freshly installed Fedora 9 on the (32-bit) machine, and I
discover that rt73usb-firmware is already installed.

So I went into system-network-config and tried adding the wireless
configuration. It seems straight-forward, but when I try to activate
the connection (I had to deselect the NetworkManager checkbox to try
this - what is Network Manager?) it fails to find IP information.

I checked the SSID and WEP key information (and I have other laptops -
a MacBook Air and a Sony Windows XP machine) working on the router.

How do I go about diagnosing the problem?

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subpixel LCD fonts smoothing

[David Hláčik]

Hello guys,

whoa - i have just tried lastest ubuntu desktop to compare fonts smoothing,
because i really hate sandy fonts on fedora 9 - and i have noticed that
their subpixel fonts smoothing on LCDs is really wonderfull , like on
windows vista.

So i am wondering, how can this be realized on Fedora 9?

There must be some way to compile xorg, or whatever does it makes to have
exacly same result.

Please point me there.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 12:46:09PM -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> First, thank you for sharing this! :)
>
> Second, do you know that this will work in x86_64 machine(s) running Fedora 9?

Unfortunately I don't have any x86_64 machine with Fedora, right now,
but since I have seen Miró playing you tube videos on a x86_64 mahcine
in Ubuntu, I exepect it will also work in Fedora for x86_64

> Third, Does it also play flash cr*p, like ads in Firefox/Google, etc?

Erms... what do you mean?

/me scratches his head... remembers whi he has adblock and NoScript!

I don't think it installs any Firefox plugin...

> This will make /me think about getting it.  

Try, at worst case you'll have wasted a few mega bytes of download and a
few minutes :)

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Re: How to remove a user. Problems after firstboot crashed on F9

[Aaron Konstam]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 20:28 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote:
> Having installed Fedora 9, I rebooted, and firstboot ran. Entered my Actual 
> name, then username, followed by password. After repeating password as 
> requested, firstboot crashed. It was late, and I'm not sure if the machine 
> was auto rebooted, or just locked up. Either way, when I next booted the 
> machine (and a lot of stuff skipped here) I ended up with a login screen, 
> which showed my real name, and hovering the mouse over my name said logging 
> in as djmons. That's ok, as it was the correct username, but entering the 
> password to login to Gnome just brought me back to the login screen. I use 
> KDE, so chose to login to KDE next, and got the following output.
> 
> Could not start kstartupconfig4.
> Check your installation
> 
> This appears to be the result of firstboot crashing when setting up 
> user/password, as when I booted into runlevel 3, and tried to login as 
> djmons, I got the following output.
> 
> localhost login: djmons
> Password:
> No directory /home/djmons
> Logging in with home = "/".
> 
> This is getting frustrating now, but su to root, and create a new user. I now 
> reboot, and the login screen shows one entry for my real name, and a new 
> entry for the new user I have created. Logging in to either Gnome, or KDE, as 
> the new user presents no problems, and can login to either Gnome, or KDE.
> 
> The question is. How do I remove the original user that was partially setup 
> before firstboot crashed.
> 
> If I run adduser, It says that djmons is already a user, but logging in as 
> djmons has no access to /home/djmons, as apparently the /home/djmons 
> directory does not exist.
> 
> How do I remove djmons, as a user from the system, so that he no longer 
> exists? Then I can recreate the original user (djmons), and hopefully be able 
> to access both Gnome and KDE.
> 
> I've never had such problems before with Fedora like this.
> 
> Is firstboot crashing a known problem?
> 
> Thanks for any help with this problem.
> 
> Nigel.
> 
If userdel does not work then one can use the brute force approach.
That i, rm the entry from. passwd, shadow, group and then remove the
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Re: How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

[Antonio Olivares]

> So you want to view YouTube videos but you don't want to
> install
> proprietary software? Namely that pesky Adobe Flash plugin,
> so well
> known for being a multi-operating-system
> "virus"-platform?
> 
> There's a simple answer for you, just install Miró!
> 
> You can use your friendly GUI interface, or just open a
> terminal
> account, elevate to root priviledges and install it like
> this:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ yum -v search miro
> Loading "refresh-packagekit" plugin
> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> Config time: 0.287
> Yum Version: 3.2.17
> COMMAND: yum -v search miro 
> Installroot: /
> Ext Commands:
> 
>miro
> Setting up Package Sacks
> pkgsack time: 0.904
> Reading Local RPMDB
> rpmdb time: 0.001
> =
> Matched: miro
> =
> Miro.i386 : Miro - Internet TV Player
> Matched from:
> Description : Miro is a free application that turns your
> computer into
> an internet TV video player. This release is still a beta
> version, which
> means that there are some bugs, but we're moving
> quickly to fix
> : them and will be releasing bug fixes on a
> regular basis.
> URL : http://www.getmiro.com/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ su -
> Password:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum install Miro
> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> Setting up Install Process
> Parsing package install arguments
> Resolving Dependencies
> --> Running transaction check
> ---> Package Miro.i386 0:1.2.4-2.fc9 set to be updated
> --> Processing Dependency: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed for
> package: Miro
> --> Running transaction check
> ---> Package gnome-python2-gtkmozembed.i386
> 0:2.19.1-17.fc9 set to be
> updated
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> 
> Dependencies Resolved
> 
> =
>  Package Arq.   Versão  
> Repository
> Size 
> =
> Installing:
>  Miroi386   1.2.4-2.fc9 
> updates   6.6 M
> Installing for dependencies:
>  gnome-python2-gtkmozembed  i386   2.19.1-17.fc9   
> updates 30 k
> 
> Transaction Summary
> =
> Install  2 Package(s) 
> Update   0 Package(s) 
> Remove   0 Package(s) 
> 
> Total download size: 6.6 M
> Is this ok [y/N]: y
> Downloading Packages:
> (1/2): gnome-python2-gtkmozembed-2.19.1-17.fc9.i386.rpm | 
> 30 kB   00:00 
> (2/2): Miro-1.2.4-2.fc9.i386.rpm|
> 6.6 MB   00:07 
> Running rpm_check_debug
> Running Transaction Test
> Finished Transaction Test
> Transaction Test Succeeded
> Running Transaction
>   Installing : gnome-python2-gtkmozembed   
>[1/2] 
>   Installing : Miro
>[2/2] 
> 
> Installed: Miro.i386 0:1.2.4-2.fc9
> Dependency Installed: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed.i386
> 0:2.19.1-17.fc9
> Complete!
> 
> -- 
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> Today is Setting Orange, the 69th day of Confusion in the
> YOLD 3174
> + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown
> + Whatever you do will be insignificant,
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> + So let's do it...?
> 
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Rui,

First, thank you for sharing this! :)
Second, do you know that this will work in x86_64 machine(s) running Fedora 9?
Third, Does it also play flash cr*p, like ads in Firefox/Google, etc?
This will make /me think about getting it.  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.26.1 #1 SMP Sun Aug 3 00:42:41 CDT 2008 x86_64 
x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ dmesg | more
Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
Linux version 2.6.26.1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 4.3.0 20080
428 (Red Hat 4.3.0-8) (GCC) ) #1 SMP Sun Aug 3 00:42:41 CDT 2008


Regards,

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Re: How to swee youtube videos,

[Björn Persson]

Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> Yeah, it seems sometime in the past I lost my send_charset flag setting.
>
> So even though I was using UTF-8, mutt sent out
>
>   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> NOT NICE :) sorry all, it's now fixed.

I don't see anything wrong in your message. The stated encoding matched the 
actual encoding, so no standard was violated. You may send everything in 
UTF-8 if you like, but you don't have to. What's important is that your email 
client specifies which encoding it uses, and it did.

I'm not a Mutt user but I guess that if send_charset is unset it will 
automatically choose the "smallest" encoding that can encode all of the 
characters you used. In this case the ó couldn't be encoded in ASCII, but it 
could be encoded in ISO 8859-1, so Mutt chose ISO 8859-1, transcoded your 
text into ISO 8859-1, and specified "charset=iso-8859-1" in the Content-Type 
header, quite correctly.

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Re: Disk error

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 20:19 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 15:00 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> >> sha1sum -c SHA1SUM
> >> Fedora-9-i386-DVD.iso: OK
> >
> > All that means is that the ISO file on your hard drive is not corrupted.
> > It says nothing about the DVD copy.
> >
> > poc
> >
> >
> This is what I got:
> 
>   sha1sum /dev/sr0
> 780a625141cc355305c9631f08981eb632cac0b9  /dev/sr0

I'm afraid telling us the hash value is of little use. It's either what
it's supposed to be (compare with the SHA1SUM file) or it isn't. If it
isn't, the DVD is bad. Rinse and repeat as needed.

Also, was the sha1sum run on the target machine or the source machine?
It's not clear from your earlier posts whether or not the laptop already
has a running Lnux system on it. If the check was run on the source
machine and passed, there could still be a problem with the target
machine.

Plus you still haven't said if you checked the *media*. The physical
composition of DVD blanks depends on the manufacturer and not all drives
work equally well with all brands. http://www.cdfreaks.com/media/ has a
lot of info on this kind of thing.

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Re: How to swee youtube videos,

[Björn Persson]

"g" wrote:
> Björn Persson wrote:
> > everything as UTF-8?
>
> yes. 8859 throws up garbage characters just as bad as utf-8, but utf-8
> tends to keep it down to 1 or 2.

Do you often receive emails that are encoded in UTF-8 but claim to be some 
other encoding? If not, I suggest that you stop enforcing any particular 
encoding. Let Thunderbird use the encoding that is specified in each 
individual message, and all will be good as long as the messages adhere to 
standards.

You may also want to review the thread "Curious characters in Thunderbird on 
Linux...", started by Kevin Martin last Wednesday, 17:15:13-05:00.

Björn Persson


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Re: Disk error

[Patrick Dupre]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 15:00 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote:

sha1sum -c SHA1SUM
Fedora-9-i386-DVD.iso: OK


All that means is that the ISO file on your hard drive is not corrupted.
It says nothing about the DVD copy.

poc



This is what I got:

 sha1sum /dev/sr0
780a625141cc355305c9631f08981eb632cac0b9  /dev/sr0
--
---
==
 Patrick DUPRÉ  |   |
 Department of Chemistry|   |Phone: (44)-(0)-1904-434384
 The University of York |   |Fax:   (44)-(0)-1904-432516
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Re: Double checking grub-install -- [SOLVED]

[William Case]

For those who helped.

On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 13:58 -0400, William Case wrote:
> Hi Tim and others who may have been watching this thread.
> 
[snip]
> 
> So the answer must be grub is switching video modes.
> I wonder if I should report this as a Fedora bug against grub ?

I bought a new Samsung LCD display, plugged it in as a DVI.  Double grub
splash screen went away.

That's that.

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Re: Installing from DVD image via ftp

[Colin Paul Adams]

> "Tim" == Tim  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Tim> On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 08:35 +0100, Colin Paul Adams wrote:
>> I tried the same URL from firefox on the server - SELinux jumps
>> in, so it looks like that is the problem.
>> 
>> I then tried System->Adminstration->SELinux management, in the
>> hope that I could switch of SELinux, but I can't seem to do so.

Tim> If you really want to disable it, the option's on the first
Tim> page of that management tool.

Tim> Current enforcing mode: Enforcing/Permissive

Tim> Meaning that rules are enforced, or not.  In enforcing mode,
Tim> the rules are enforced.  In permissive mode, the rules are
Tim> not enforced, things are allowed, but logged.

Thanks Tim.

I did this, and it stopped objecting. But my machine no longer managed
to find the ftp server at all (coincidence I presume).

Tim> The real solution would be to sort out the problem with loop
Tim> mounting an ISO and FTP serving it.  But it's ages since I've
Tim> played with FTP serving.  The last few times I've done
Tim> network installs, it's been over HTTP or NFS.

So I used NFS (with the loop-mounted system). it's working fine.

There were some other problems:

1) Even though I specified askmethod and selected NFS, anaconda still
detected (and chose) a local installation medium (CD #1), so i had to
reboot and start all over again.

2) The partioning program had a bug, and I was given no option to
continue the installation (restarting the disk partition process
should have been fine), so again i had to reboot.

Still, I have my system now.
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Re: How to swee youtube videos,

[g]

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Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:

> Purely by luck :)

glad you did.

> Don't worry :)

thank you.

now i can go out in back yard, chase off squirrels, and get grass cut.

> Best,
> Rui

and to you.



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Re: Disk error

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Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> All that means is that the ISO file on your hard drive is not corrupted.
> It says nothing about the DVD copy.

give him a chance to try 'sha1sum /dev/sr0'.

with dvd in drive, of course.
[which i left out in other post. but did want to give him some credit]

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Re: mouse wheel workspace switcher?

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Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> Because you can't be bothered clicking on each of the pager windows to
> find the one you want. It's occasionally useful when looking for a
> window that has gone astray.

then they have also changed upper part of task bar. looks like i am
going to dislike kde4.x even more.


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Re: How to swee youtube videos,

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 06:51:19PM +, g wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> 
> Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> 
> > So even though I was using UTF-8, mutt sent out
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > NOT NICE :) sorry all, it's now fixed.
> 
> what i see is;
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >> Content-Disposition: inline
> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> 
> 
> glad to see you are still following thread.

Purely by luck :)

> so, i must ask, did you take offense to how i phrased my question?

Not at all, it was my fault, after all, that you got garbled [hex]
content :)

> if so, it was not intended as such and you do have my apologies if
> i did offend you.

Don't worry :)

Best,
Rui

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How to view You Tube videos using Free Software? Read on...

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

So you want to view YouTube videos but you don't want to install
proprietary software? Namely that pesky Adobe Flash plugin, so well
known for being a multi-operating-system "virus"-platform?

There's a simple answer for you, just install Miró!

You can use your friendly GUI interface, or just open a terminal
account, elevate to root priviledges and install it like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ yum -v search miro
Loading "refresh-packagekit" plugin
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Config time: 0.287
Yum Version: 3.2.17
COMMAND: yum -v search miro 
Installroot: /
Ext Commands:

   miro
Setting up Package Sacks
pkgsack time: 0.904
Reading Local RPMDB
rpmdb time: 0.001
=
Matched: miro
=
Miro.i386 : Miro - Internet TV Player
Matched from:
Description : Miro is a free application that turns your computer into
an internet TV video player. This release is still a beta version, which
means that there are some bugs, but we're moving quickly to fix
: them and will be releasing bug fixes on a regular basis.
URL : http://www.getmiro.com/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ su -
Password:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum install Miro
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package Miro.i386 0:1.2.4-2.fc9 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed for package: Miro
--> Running transaction check
---> Package gnome-python2-gtkmozembed.i386 0:2.19.1-17.fc9 set to be
updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

=
 Package Arq.   Versão   Repository
Size 
=
Installing:
 Miroi386   1.2.4-2.fc9  updates   6.6 M
Installing for dependencies:
 gnome-python2-gtkmozembed  i386   2.19.1-17.fc9updates 30 k

Transaction Summary
=
Install  2 Package(s) 
Update   0 Package(s) 
Remove   0 Package(s) 

Total download size: 6.6 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
(1/2): gnome-python2-gtkmozembed-2.19.1-17.fc9.i386.rpm |  30 kB   00:00
 
(2/2): Miro-1.2.4-2.fc9.i386.rpm| 6.6 MB   00:07
 
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
  Installing : gnome-python2-gtkmozembed   [1/2] 
  Installing : Miro[2/2] 

Installed: Miro.i386 0:1.2.4-2.fc9
Dependency Installed: gnome-python2-gtkmozembed.i386 0:2.19.1-17.fc9
Complete!

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Re: How to swee youtube videos,

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Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:

> So even though I was using UTF-8, mutt sent out
>   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> NOT NICE :) sorry all, it's now fixed.

what i see is;
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>> Content-Disposition: inline
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit


glad to see you are still following thread.

so, i must ask, did you take offense to how i phrased my question?

if so, it was not intended as such and you do have my apologies if
i did offend you.


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Re: How to swee youtube videos,

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 06:29:42PM +, g wrote:
> rui was using mutt for that one. either he has bee around a while, or
> does not have his 'x' working.

Been around for a while, don't really trust Evolution, but use it at
work for meetings and stuff in a Windows centric desktop LAN, and lost a
flag which set the correct charset!

X works fine ever since radeon-hd and radeon got Free Software support
to the ATI card on this laptop. Fortunately it was only a few months of
running at 1024x768 VESA on a 1280x800 screen :)

Rui

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Re: OT: Re: Replies to newbies

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hell, maybe. 3 ? to add emphasis that i do not understand.

> Instead of "so just what in hell is 'Mir[0xef 0xbf,0xbd]'???", I suggest that 
> you write something like "That seems to have been garbled and I can't figure 
> it out. What was the name of the program?"

> That would be a nicer tone and would also help us understand you better.

i agree. it would have been. i do have a lot loading me down and i just
did not take time to try to be more specific.

> I tought you complained about a garbled message.

it was garbled. as i stated in post to poc, no where on site is it
spelled as rui spelled it.

why he did, i do not know. in fact, i would not even try to guess.
2nd language or not, it was his spelling as he did that brought
up this whole mess anyway.

i do thank you for reply.


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Re: How to swee youtube videos,

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 08:07:03PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> > > BTW it's an accented 'o' (ó).
> >
> > that is what i see when you send it, but not when rui sends it.
> 
> Rui's message was encoded in ISO 8859-1. Patrick's was in UTF-8. Both reached 
> me unmangled. To see for yourself, press Ctrl+U and look at the 
> header "Content-Type".

Yeah, it seems sometime in the past I lost my send_charset flag setting.

So even though I was using UTF-8, mutt sent out

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

NOT NICE :) sorry all, it's now fixed.

Rui

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Re: mouse wheel workspace switcher?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 17:35 +, g wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> > In both KDE 3.5 and KDE 4.x, you can use the scroll wheel when the mouse
> > is over the pager icon in the panel.
> 
> let me guess. you just thru that in.
> 
> if you are over pager, why would you need scroll wheel???

Because you can't be bothered clicking on each of the pager windows to
find the one you want. It's occasionally useful when looking for a
window that has gone astray.

poc

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Re: mouse wheel workspace switcher?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 17:56 +, Beartooth wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 19:47:49 +, g wrote:
> [...]
> >> 'control center > desktop > behavior > general > mouse button actions'
> > 
> > also, should have mentioned, if right button is set for 'desktop menu',
> > you can get there quicker.
> 
>   Thanks, I passed that back; but I don't even find control center; 
> is that something in KDE?

Control Center is from KDE 3.5. IN KDE 4.x it's the Settings menu item.

poc

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Re: Disk error

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 15:00 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> sha1sum -c SHA1SUM
> Fedora-9-i386-DVD.iso: OK

All that means is that the ISO file on your hard drive is not corrupted.
It says nothing about the DVD copy.

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Re: no sound with totem

[Craig White]

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 08:08 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 00:51 +0200, Bjoern Schiessle wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > on my laptop (Fedora9) totem plays all files without sound.
> > 
> > Installed packages:
> > 
> > # rpm -qa | grep totem
> > totem-nautilus-2.23.2-5.fc9.x86_64
> > totem-gstreamer-2.23.2-5.fc9.x86_64
> > totem-pl-parser-2.22.3-1.fc9.x86_64
> > totem-mozplugin-2.23.2-5.fc9.x86_64
> > totem-2.23.2-5.fc9.x86_64
> > totem-youtube-2.23.2-5.fc9.x86_64
> > totem-xine-2.23.2-5.fc9.x86_64
> > 
> > # rpm -qa | grep gstreamer
> > gstreamer-plugins-pulse-0.9.5-0.5.svn20070924.fc9.x86_64
> > gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.19-2.fc9.x86_64
> > gstreamer-plugins-schroedinger-1.0.3-2.fc9.x86_64
> > gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.8-1.lvn9.x86_64
> > gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux-0.10.15-2.fc9.x86_64
> > gstreamer-0.10.19-1.fc9.x86_64
> > gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.4-1.lvn9.x86_64
> > gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.7-1.lvn9.x86_64
> > totem-gstreamer-2.23.2-5.fc9.x86_64
> > gstreamer-python-0.10.11-2.fc9.x86_64
> > gstreamer-tools-0.10.19-1.fc9.x86_64
> > gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.8-8.fc9.x86_64
> > gstreamer-plugins-farsight-0.12.7-2.fc9.x86_64
> > gstreamer-plugins-bad-extras-0.10.7-1.lvn9.x86_64
> > 
> > I have tried a mpeg4 video file, a mp3 and a Ogg Vorbis file. For all
> > files i have no sound while other programs like rhythmbox and vlc can
> > play the files.
> > 
> > Any ideas what could be wrong with totem?
> > 
> > best wishes,
> > Björn
> >From experience with other programs that did not produce sound I would
> suggest you install:
> libflashsupport

that's what we told you to do to get sound from youtube which is flash.
That isn't gonna help him a bit.

1 - install package xmms-mp3 (will play mp3)

2 - execute 'totem-backend -b xine' (should help with online mp4)

I don't know about ogg format files though

Craig



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Re: Fedora 9 on PS3, cant boot after update

[Andrea]

Andrea wrote:

Hi,

I have F9 on a PS3 and today I've update the PS3 software from Sony to 2.42

Then I booted Linux. No problem.
Then I updated F9 (last update dated 11/07/08).

Many new RPM installed.

Then I rebooted and the PS3 on Linux does not boot anymore.



I think it is related to this bug report.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=457165

Andrea

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Re: How to swee youtube videos,

[g]

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Björn Persson wrote:

> Just for your information, the two dots are called a diaeresis, not "double 
> grave".

thanks. 'double grave' did not sound right, but i figured someone who
refresh me on it.

> EF BF BD is the UTF-8 representation of the character U+FFFD REPLACEMENT 

> everything as UTF-8?

yes. 8859 throws up garbage characters just as bad as utf-8, but utf-8
tends to keep it down to 1 or 2.

> Rui's message was encoded in ISO 8859-1. Patrick's was in UTF-8. Both reached 
> me unmangled. To see for yourself, press Ctrl+U and look at the 
> header "Content-Type".

i am up on . i do it to a lot of messages that i get to see what
mail client is being used and what i am trying to read.

rui was using mutt for that one. either he has bee around a while, or
does not have his 'x' working.


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How to remove a user. Problems after firstboot crashed on F9

[Nigel Henry]

Having installed Fedora 9, I rebooted, and firstboot ran. Entered my Actual 
name, then username, followed by password. After repeating password as 
requested, firstboot crashed. It was late, and I'm not sure if the machine 
was auto rebooted, or just locked up. Either way, when I next booted the 
machine (and a lot of stuff skipped here) I ended up with a login screen, 
which showed my real name, and hovering the mouse over my name said logging 
in as djmons. That's ok, as it was the correct username, but entering the 
password to login to Gnome just brought me back to the login screen. I use 
KDE, so chose to login to KDE next, and got the following output.

Could not start kstartupconfig4.
Check your installation

This appears to be the result of firstboot crashing when setting up 
user/password, as when I booted into runlevel 3, and tried to login as 
djmons, I got the following output.

localhost login: djmons
Password:
No directory /home/djmons
Logging in with home = "/".

This is getting frustrating now, but su to root, and create a new user. I now 
reboot, and the login screen shows one entry for my real name, and a new 
entry for the new user I have created. Logging in to either Gnome, or KDE, as 
the new user presents no problems, and can login to either Gnome, or KDE.

The question is. How do I remove the original user that was partially setup 
before firstboot crashed.

If I run adduser, It says that djmons is already a user, but logging in as 
djmons has no access to /home/djmons, as apparently the /home/djmons 
directory does not exist.

How do I remove djmons, as a user from the system, so that he no longer 
exists? Then I can recreate the original user (djmons), and hopefully be able 
to access both Gnome and KDE.

I've never had such problems before with Fedora like this.

Is firstboot crashing a known problem?

Thanks for any help with this problem.

Nigel.

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Re: OT: Re: Replies to newbies

[Björn Persson]

söndagen den 3 augusti 2008 skrev g:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > George, your tone to newcomers to the list often leaves something to be
> > desired.  People that know you don't take offence, but it's all too easy
> > to scare newbies away.  Please do be less critical and more sympathetic
> > to them.  :-)  Who knows what they might contribute in the longer term.
>
> ok. just where in hell was i being 'off tone'???

Well that's one example right there. "Hell" and three question marks seems 
somewhat rude.

> if you would read back thru thread, you will see that i was interested
> in finding out what program rui [if that is what has brought this about]
> was referring to. my using hex to relate to what i was seeing in his
> reply was not meant to be offensive and because i do not have keyboard
> set up to print special marks, i used what i did.

Instead of "so just what in hell is 'Mir[0xef 0xbf,0xbd]'???", I suggest that 
you write something like "That seems to have been garbled and I can't figure 
it out. What was the name of the program?" That would be a nicer tone and 
would also help us understand you better. As you saw, I didn't understand at 
first that you asked for the name. I tought you complained about a garbled 
message.

Björn Persson


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Upgrade F8 to F9 via net install problem with yum and burning CD's

[Rick Lim]

I've got 2 problems,

First problem:

After downloading the iso and trying to burn the cds using roxio or poweriso
as an iso file, the first disk was ok, able to boot off of it and do a media
check (tok) all the rest no matter how I burn them come back with 

 

"Unable to read the disc checksum from the primary volume descriptor. This
probably means the disc was created without adding the checksum."

 

So I downloaded the netinst iso, burnt it, and did a net install/upgrade F8
to F9.

 

Second problem:

Now when I try a yum clean all I get the following message, which I have no
idea how to fix, any suggestions ?

 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum update

There was a problem importing one of the Python modules

required to run yum. The error leading to this problem was:

 

   /usr/lib/librpm-4.4.so: undefined symbol: rpmEscapeSpaces

 

Please install a package which provides this module, or

verify that the module is installed correctly.

 

It's possible that the above module doesn't match the

current version of Python, which is:

2.5.1 (r251:54863, Apr  8 2008, 01:20:16)

[GCC 4.3.0 20080404 (Red Hat 4.3.0-6)]

 

If you cannot solve this problem yourself, please go to

the yum faq at:

  http://wiki.linux.duke.edu/YumFaq

 

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Re: OT: Re: Replies to newbies

[Anne Wilson]

On Sunday 03 August 2008 18:55:34 g wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> 
>
> > Your single-line reply to someone who has English as a second language
>
> was:
> > so just what in hell is 'Mir[0xef 0xbf,0xbd]'???
>
> well kafba. i thought i had done something wrong...
>
> > I don't find that polite, tactful, or helpful.
>
> your findings.
>
> because i used word 'hell'?
>
> or because i used hex notations?
>
Because Rui's offering was a helpful suggestion, and your reply implied that 
something was wrong with that.

> > I approached you quiety, off-list, so that you could consider the
> > matter calmly.
>
> no need to approach me quietly. not when it regards something that
> i posted to this list.
>
Since you insist on making this public, I'll reply the same way, but I've no 
intentions of flogging a dead horse.

> btw, quiety is spelled quietly, teacher.

I make as many typos as others.

Anne


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Fedora 9 on PS3, cant boot after update

[Andrea]

Hi,

I have F9 on a PS3 and today I've update the PS3 software from Sony to 2.42

Then I booted Linux. No problem.
Then I updated F9 (last update dated 11/07/08).

Many new RPM installed.

Then I rebooted and the PS3 on Linux does not boot anymore.

It goes to kboot prompt and then, in the next section it stops after some USB 
related lines.

These are the last 3 lines of output

ps3-ehci-driver sb_05 USB 0.0 started, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004
hub 1-0:1.0 USB hub found
hub 1-0:1.0 2 ports detected

Then the only thing I can do is to press the switch until it switches off.

1) Does anybody know what happens?
2) How can I reboot the PS3 software?
3) How can I fix it?

Cheers

Andrea

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Re: Misunderstanding GPL's terms and conditions as restrictions (and an apology)

[Alan Cox]

Les - if you want to restart the whole thing, please do it somewhere else.

Alan

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Re: How to swee youtube videos,

[Björn Persson]

"g" wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
>
> > The message was in text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1. Perhaps you need to
> > check your settings for character encoding.
>
> it is set to utf-8. 8859-1 throws a '�', that is a "double grave i, an
> inverted ?, an a '1/2'".

Just for your information, the two dots are called a diaeresis, not "double 
grave".

EF BF BD is the UTF-8 representation of the character U+FFFD REPLACEMENT 
CHARACTER, which is described as "used to replace an incoming character whose 
value is unknown or unrepresentable in Unicode". I see it as a white question 
mark in a black square standing on its corner. This probably means that some 
program took the ISO 8859-1 text, tried to read it as if it were UTF-8, found 
the byte value F3, and found that it was an invalid UTF-8 code. My guess is 
that it was your Thunderbird that did this. Have you forced it to read 
everything as UTF-8?

> > BTW it's an accented 'o' (ó).
>
> that is what i see when you send it, but not when rui sends it.

Rui's message was encoded in ISO 8859-1. Patrick's was in UTF-8. Both reached 
me unmangled. To see for yourself, press Ctrl+U and look at the 
header "Content-Type".

Björn Persson


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Re: mouse wheel workspace switcher?

[Beartooth]

On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 19:47:49 +, g wrote:
[...]
>> 'control center > desktop > behavior > general > mouse button actions'
> 
> also, should have mentioned, if right button is set for 'desktop menu',
> you can get there quicker.

Thanks, I passed that back; but I don't even find control center; 
is that something in KDE?

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