Re: Problem of install tarball packages
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:31:46AM -0700, Aldo Foot wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 01:10 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Aldo Foot wrote: > >> > >> >On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:34 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> >>Dear All, > >> >> > >> >>How to config the sudo, then allow user A to install tarball packages > >> >>with FC8 System ? > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >You use the 'visudo' command to edit the /etc/sudoers files. > >> >Don't edit that file directly. > >> > > >> >see this /etc/sudoers sample > >> >http://www.gratisoft.us/sudo/sample.sudoers > >> > > >> >'rpm' is just another command you add to the allowed commands. > >> >so for example a the CLI: "sudo rpm -Uvh someRpm.rpm', > >> > > >> >~af > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Hello Aldo, > >> > >> Sorry, my means is tarball packages ( NOT rpm packages )... > > > > users don't need superuser privileges to use tar at all UNLESS they are > > trying to 'untar' into spaces where only superuser can write, in which > > case, security is out the window. > > > > Craig > > You're correct. How did I mix rpm and tar? My coffee was not strong > enough this morning.. ;-) And the same security issue exists for yum, rpm and cpio. If I can run "sudo `rpm -Uvh anything" I can install anything I want including a new pass word file, bogus user or other backdoor. -- T o m M i t c h e l l Found me a new hat, now what? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Evolution and spanish dictionary.
- Mensaje original > De: Ricardo Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Para: "fedora-list@redhat.com" > Enviado: sábado, 27 de septiembre, 2008 17:57:09 > Asunto: Evolution and spanish dictionary. > > Hi all, > > I'm using evolution, but I can't check the spell in spanish because the > it isn't at dictionary selection on evolution there are only English > dics. but I have the aspell-es package installed even gnome-spell is > installed to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ rpm -qa | grep spell > hunspell-en-0.20080207-1.fc9.noarch > hunspell-1.2.1-7.fc9.i386 > aspell-en-6.0-9.fc9.i386 > gtkspell-2.0.11-8.fc9.i386 > aspell-es-0.50-17.fc9.i386 > gnome-spell-1.0.8-5.fc9.i386 > hunspell-es-0.20051031-1.fc8.noarch > aspell-0.60.5-6.fc9.i386 > > > What's missing? > TKS. > > -- > Ricardo Gomez > gpg fingerprint: E83C F78D DDB4 5431 6356 00FC 2883 EED3 7373 E1B8 > http://ricgomez.net/ - - > irc.freenode.net: ricgomez @ #fedora, #fedora-es TKS I think this should help. http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ#Why_does_Spellchecking_not_work.3F ¡Buenos suerte! Dennis K __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.yahoo.com.mx/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to Disable screensaver
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Fred Silsbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd still like to know how to make the screensaver stay on indefinitely! Do you mean that you want it to run "forever" without terminating when on a keypress or mouse movement? If you tell xscreensaver to lock the screen it won't exit to the desktop until you enter your password. Or you can just run the demo that you want directly without going through xscreensaver. (As an aside, xmame with the right game in attract mode makes a lovely "demo" on a spare machine.) -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to Disable screensaver
--- On Mon, 9/29/08, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: How to Disable screensaver > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." > > Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 2:19 AM > On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:17:43AM +0930, Tim wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 18:37 -0400, Dave Feustel wrote: > > > What I want is the ability to add application > icons for Konqueror and > > > Xterm to the bottom system panel as in kde3. That > feature seems to be > > > absent from both gnome and kde4 in F9. > > > > It's certainly not absent in Gnome, it's just > a right-click or > > drag-and-drop away. > > I tried to do that but nothing happened, In kde3 I was able > to create an > application launcher for a specific application (eg xterm) > on the > desktop and then drag that icon onto the system panel, from > which the > application could be started with a single click. This does > not work at > all for me so far with F9 gnome. How is the equivalent > operation done in > gnome? > > > Also, your initial query could have been solved > > simply by reading through the menus, that's what > they're there for. > > It's not hard to find an item called > "screensaver." > > > screensaver is slightly buried. KDE 4.1 menu->applications->system->system settings->left column screensaver Under the menu icon lower left, right click on an item and select "save to panel" I'd still like to know how to make the screensaver stay on indefinitely! There is some setting in xconfig or one of those files! Years ago I knew how to do this. > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to Disable screensaver
On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 18:37 -0400, Dave Feustel wrote: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 04:47:46PM -0400, Dave Feustel wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:48:24PM -0700, Kam Leo wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm running F9. How do I turn off the screensaver (or extend the > > > > timeout period) so I don't have to type my password every two minutes to > > > > unlock the screen? > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > For Gnome Desktop go to System->Preferences->Look and Feel. > > > > Thanks! How do I select the kde desktop? > > I figured out how to select kde at login, but the kde4 desktop is even > less usuable than gnome. What I want is the ability to add application > icons for Konqueror and Xterm to the bottom system panel as in kde3. > That feature seems to be absent from both gnome and kde4 in F9. In KDE4: right-click on the application in the "F" (Start) menu and select "Add to Panel" (or "Add to Desktop" if you prefer). poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to Disable screensaver
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:19:14 -0400 Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How is the equivalent operation done in > gnome? Right-click on an empty spot on your panel bar. Select "Add to Panel" Fill in the blanks in the window that appears. Click on the icon in the window to select a new one if you want to change it. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to Disable screensaver
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:17:43AM +0930, Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 18:37 -0400, Dave Feustel wrote: > > What I want is the ability to add application icons for Konqueror and > > Xterm to the bottom system panel as in kde3. That feature seems to be > > absent from both gnome and kde4 in F9. > > It's certainly not absent in Gnome, it's just a right-click or > drag-and-drop away. I tried to do that but nothing happened, In kde3 I was able to create an application launcher for a specific application (eg xterm) on the desktop and then drag that icon onto the system panel, from which the application could be started with a single click. This does not work at all for me so far with F9 gnome. How is the equivalent operation done in gnome? > Also, your initial query could have been solved > simply by reading through the menus, that's what they're there for. > It's not hard to find an item called "screensaver." > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to Disable screensaver
On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 18:37 -0400, Dave Feustel wrote: > What I want is the ability to add application icons for Konqueror and > Xterm to the bottom system panel as in kde3. That feature seems to be > absent from both gnome and kde4 in F9. It's certainly not absent in Gnome, it's just a right-click or drag-and-drop away. Also, your initial query could have been solved simply by reading through the menus, that's what they're there for. It's not hard to find an item called "screensaver." -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: firefox: choose a profile
on 09/28/2008 08:23 PM Amadeus W.M. wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:19:32 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 20:09 -0400, oleksandr korneta wrote: fresh install of fedora 9 x86_64. Firefox is the default browser. Every attempt to open the link from any application outside the firefox (homepage link in "About" window of any program, link from email message in thunderbird, conversation window in pidgin) brings up the firefox profile chooser window, asking "what profile do you want to use?". Obviously, selecting the current profile does not work because "it is currently in use" o_O "Copy-paste" the links into firefox's address bar works, but having to do that every time is extremely annoying. yes, I've seen such things before, and most of us had to write our own firefox-remote script to enjoy the flawless work, but it was like... in 2004!!! I thought this thing has been solved for some time now. googling brings nothing -- apparently I'm the only one with this problem under F9. Any suggestions? Quit all open copies of firefox delete the file... ~/.mozilla/firefox/profiles/$SOME_SALTED_HASH/.parentlock This is the file that makes it think your profile ^^ is in use. Craig Thanks, problem solved. which one? Was Craig referring to your problem or mine, because the threads seem to be messed up? -- regards, Oleksandr Korneta I'm running F9 x86_64 and F8 i386 on x86_64 hardware, should this matter. /The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from./ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: firefox: choose a profile
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:19:32 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 20:09 -0400, oleksandr korneta wrote: >> fresh install of fedora 9 x86_64. Firefox is the default browser. Every >> attempt to open the link from any application outside the firefox >> (homepage link in "About" window of any program, link from email >> message in thunderbird, conversation window in pidgin) brings up the >> firefox profile chooser window, asking "what profile do you want to >> use?". Obviously, selecting the current profile does not work because >> "it is currently in use" o_O >> >> "Copy-paste" the links into firefox's address bar works, but having to >> do that every time is extremely annoying. >> >> yes, I've seen such things before, and most of us had to write our own >> firefox-remote script to enjoy the flawless work, but it was like... in >> 2004!!! I thought this thing has been solved for some time now. >> >> googling brings nothing -- apparently I'm the only one with this >> problem under F9. >> >> Any suggestions? > > Quit all open copies of firefox > > delete the file... > > ~/.mozilla/firefox/profiles/$SOME_SALTED_HASH/.parentlock > > This is the file that makes it think your profile ^^ is in use. > > Craig Thanks, problem solved. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: firefox: choose a profile
On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 20:09 -0400, oleksandr korneta wrote: > fresh install of fedora 9 x86_64. Firefox is the default browser. Every > attempt to open the link from any application outside the firefox > (homepage link in "About" window of any program, link from email message > in thunderbird, conversation window in pidgin) brings up the firefox > profile chooser window, asking "what profile do you want to use?". > Obviously, selecting the current profile does not work because "it is > currently in use" o_O > > "Copy-paste" the links into firefox's address bar works, but having to > do that every time is extremely annoying. > > yes, I've seen such things before, and most of us had to write our own > firefox-remote script to enjoy the flawless work, but it was like... in > 2004!!! I thought this thing has been solved for some time now. > > googling brings nothing -- apparently I'm the only one with this problem > under F9. > > Any suggestions? Quit all open copies of firefox delete the file... ~/.mozilla/firefox/profiles/$SOME_SALTED_HASH/.parentlock This is the file that makes it think your profile ^^ is in use. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
firefox problem
After a bunch of updates yesterday I begun to get a message upon starting firefox, something like: ASSERT: *** Search: _installLocation: engine has no file! Stack Trace: ... etc. I click ok and it works, but why do I get that message. I have firefox set up to start with google. That site works even with this warning, but some sites that I was perfectly able to access yesterday I can no longer access today. Is anyone seeing this or has any idea what the problem might be? Oh, I noticed firefox-3.0.2-1 was among the updates of yesterday. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
firefox: choose a profile
fresh install of fedora 9 x86_64. Firefox is the default browser. Every attempt to open the link from any application outside the firefox (homepage link in "About" window of any program, link from email message in thunderbird, conversation window in pidgin) brings up the firefox profile chooser window, asking "what profile do you want to use?". Obviously, selecting the current profile does not work because "it is currently in use" o_O "Copy-paste" the links into firefox's address bar works, but having to do that every time is extremely annoying. yes, I've seen such things before, and most of us had to write our own firefox-remote script to enjoy the flawless work, but it was like... in 2004!!! I thought this thing has been solved for some time now. googling brings nothing -- apparently I'm the only one with this problem under F9. Any suggestions? -- regards, Oleksandr Korneta I'm running F9 x86_64 and F8 i386 on x86_64 hardware, should this matter. /The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from./ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Switching to KDE (was kde or gnome)
On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 00:48 +0100, José Matos wrote: > On Monday 29 September 2008 00:16:39 Agile Aspect wrote: > > The current version of KDE 4.1 is terrible. > > > > Everything I like about KDE 3.5 has been decimated. > > Who needs soap-operas with these type of messages? :-) seems to be a legitimate criticism. While I might disagree with the overall sentiment expressed, clearly the whole GNOME or KDE (or FWM or XFCE) are about expectations. Clearly Apple and Microsoft have invested a lot of their development resources towards a snazzy, 3 dimensional desktop and trying to move the basic UI from the standards that developed in the 80's. Clearly KDE has set their sights towards that end and in the interim, there are people who don't see the value in the current feature regression of KDE. I wish that KDE did a better job of promoting their vision for the future so that we had a URL that we could point to in order to allay the fears of those who are unhappy with the direction. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Switching to KDE (was kde or gnome)
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Agile Aspect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The current version of KDE 4.1 is terrible. Please take this to a separate thread so that it can be properly ignored. This thread is about switching from Gnome to KDE. Thank you. -- Fedora 9 : sulphur is good for the skin ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Switching to KDE (was kde or gnome)
On Monday 29 September 2008 00:16:39 Agile Aspect wrote: > The current version of KDE 4.1 is terrible. > > Everything I like about KDE 3.5 has been decimated. Who needs soap-operas with these type of messages? :-) -- José Abílio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Switching to KDE (was kde or gnome)
The current version of KDE 4.1 is terrible.
Everything I like about KDE 3.5 has been decimated.
Click on the "Configure Desktop" and the only thing
you can do is change the wall paper.
And if you need to actually configure the desktop, then
if you fumble around in the menus you'll find 2
"configure system" entries.
Desktop no longer means desktop - system no longer
means system.
They took a page from MS development - chop up the
existing application and rename the commands with
nonsensical names, add a couple of unnecessary features,
and you have a new release.
And if you haven't pissed the majority of your clients then
you're doing something wrong.
Dave Feustel wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 05:35:13PM -0400, Eric wrote:
>
>> At 05:21 PM 9/28/2008, Dave Feustel wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'm running F9 and I would like to switch from gnome to kde,
>>> but I have not figured out how that is done. Can someone
>>> explain how?
>>>
>> <
>>
>> Good evening, Dave.
>>
>> First of all, you need to have KDE installed, if it is not already
>> installed. It isn't installed by default, in an initial F9
>> installation. So, you need to log on as root, open up a terminal
>> window, and say "yum groupinstall "KDE Softwarre Development"" ("yum
>> groupinstall KDE" may also work but I didn't try that).
>>
>> Then, you have one of two ways: switchdesk, or selecting it in a little
>> box on login.
>>
>> switchdesk is a command-line utility where you log on as yourself, open
>> up a terminal window, and say "switchdesk KDE". If you try that and KDE
>> isn't installed, it will tell you that you need to use "yum groupinstall
>> "KDE Software Development"" to install KDE.
>>
>> If switchdesk isn't installed, you have to log on as root and say "yum
>> install switchdesk" first.
>>
>> The other way is, when you click on your userID in the login screen but
>> before you type in the password, a small pulldown box will appear at the
>> bottom center of the screen, containing all of the desktops you have
>> installed. Click on the arrow and select "KDE" from that box, and from
>> then on, until you change it, all of your logins will be to KDE (again,
>> as long as you have KDE installed).
>>
>> Note that you could use the graphical "Add/Remove Software" to do all
>> the KDE installation (and installation of other things like switchdesk),
>> but I have had that crash on me once too many times, in the middle of a
>> software install session, leaving things in an indeterminate state. So,
>> I use "Add/Remove Software" to get a list of everything I need to add,
>> then I use the command line "yum install..." or "yum groupinstall..." to
>> do the actual installation.
>>
>> Hope this helps...
>>
>
> Thanks for the explanation. I managed to get kde installed via
> add/remove..., and then selected kde prior to login. But kde is
> even worse than gnome since it has nothing at all on the desktop
> and I can't install icons either on the desktop or on the system panel
> in either gnome or kde4 as I could in kde3. So I went back to gnome.
>
>
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Re: Switching to KDE (was kde or gnome)
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 05:35:13PM -0400, Eric wrote:
> At 05:21 PM 9/28/2008, Dave Feustel wrote:
>
> >
>> I'm running F9 and I would like to switch from gnome to kde,
>> but I have not figured out how that is done. Can someone
>> explain how?
> <
>
> Good evening, Dave.
>
> First of all, you need to have KDE installed, if it is not already
> installed. It isn't installed by default, in an initial F9
> installation. So, you need to log on as root, open up a terminal
> window, and say "yum groupinstall "KDE Softwarre Development"" ("yum
> groupinstall KDE" may also work but I didn't try that).
>
> Then, you have one of two ways: switchdesk, or selecting it in a little
> box on login.
>
> switchdesk is a command-line utility where you log on as yourself, open
> up a terminal window, and say "switchdesk KDE". If you try that and KDE
> isn't installed, it will tell you that you need to use "yum groupinstall
> "KDE Software Development"" to install KDE.
>
> If switchdesk isn't installed, you have to log on as root and say "yum
> install switchdesk" first.
>
> The other way is, when you click on your userID in the login screen but
> before you type in the password, a small pulldown box will appear at the
> bottom center of the screen, containing all of the desktops you have
> installed. Click on the arrow and select "KDE" from that box, and from
> then on, until you change it, all of your logins will be to KDE (again,
> as long as you have KDE installed).
>
> Note that you could use the graphical "Add/Remove Software" to do all
> the KDE installation (and installation of other things like switchdesk),
> but I have had that crash on me once too many times, in the middle of a
> software install session, leaving things in an indeterminate state. So,
> I use "Add/Remove Software" to get a list of everything I need to add,
> then I use the command line "yum install..." or "yum groupinstall..." to
> do the actual installation.
>
> Hope this helps...
Thanks for the explanation. I managed to get kde installed via
add/remove..., and then selected kde prior to login. But kde is
even worse than gnome since it has nothing at all on the desktop
and I can't install icons either on the desktop or on the system panel
in either gnome or kde4 as I could in kde3. So I went back to gnome.
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Re: How to Disable screensaver
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 04:47:46PM -0400, Dave Feustel wrote: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:48:24PM -0700, Kam Leo wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm running F9. How do I turn off the screensaver (or extend the > > > timeout period) so I don't have to type my password every two minutes to > > > unlock the screen? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > For Gnome Desktop go to System->Preferences->Look and Feel. > > Thanks! How do I select the kde desktop? I figured out how to select kde at login, but the kde4 desktop is even less usuable than gnome. What I want is the ability to add application icons for Konqueror and Xterm to the bottom system panel as in kde3. That feature seems to be absent from both gnome and kde4 in F9. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to Disable screensaver
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 04:03:30PM -0600, Peter Reed wrote: > On Sunday 28 September 2008 02:47:46 pm Dave Feustel wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:48:24PM -0700, Kam Leo wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > I'm running F9. How do I turn off the screensaver (or extend the > > > > timeout period) so I don't have to type my password every two minutes > > > > to unlock the screen? > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > For Gnome Desktop go to System->Preferences->Look and Feel. > > > > Thanks! How do I select the kde desktop? > > > For the kde desktop click on the menu > Favorites > System Settings > The > Desktop icon > Screen Saver then under the screen saver settings you will > see a check box for start automatically and make sure that box is checked > under that will be a check box for use password and how long before you will > be asked for a password. > > Peter Thanks! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: google-earth problem
On Sunday 28 September 2008, Martin wrote: >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > >Gene Heskett wrote: >>I nuked the /opt/google-earth directory, pulled the older one, >>overwriting the newer -bin, and installed it. Same error. Are >>there any libs hidden away someplace else? > >Did you also nuke the dot directory in your home directory? Duh. No, done. And I've nuked them both twice more, and re-installed twice more. No difference, still getting this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# googleearth do_wait: drmWaitVBlank returned -1, IRQs don't seem to be working correctly. Try running with LIBGL_THROTTLE_REFRESH and LIBL_SYNC_REFRESH unset. wx=0.312690, wy=0.328990, rx=0.639990, ry=0.33 gx=0.21, gy=0.71, bx=0.149990, by=0.059990 wx=0.312690, wy=0.328990, rx=0.639990, ry=0.33 gx=0.21, gy=0.71, bx=0.149990, by=0.059990 wx=0.312690, wy=0.328990, rx=0.639990, ry=0.33 gx=0.21, gy=0.71, bx=0.149990, by=0.059990 wx=0.312690, wy=0.328990, rx=0.639990, ry=0.33 gx=0.21, gy=0.71, bx=0.149990, by=0.059990 wx=0.312690, wy=0.328990, rx=0.639990, ry=0.33 gx=0.21, gy=0.71, bx=0.149990, by=0.059990 wx=0.312690, wy=0.328990, rx=0.639990, ry=0.33 gx=0.21, gy=0.71, bx=0.149990, by=0.059990 wx=0.312690, wy=0.328990, rx=0.639990, ry=0.33 gx=0.21, gy=0.71, bx=0.149990, by=0.059990 wx=0.312690, wy=0.328990, rx=0.639990, ry=0.33 gx=0.21, gy=0.71, bx=0.149990, by=0.059990 wx=0.312690, wy=0.328990, rx=0.639990, ry=0.33 gx=0.21, gy=0.71, bx=0.149990, by=0.059990 wx=0.312690, wy=0.328990, rx=0.639990, ry=0.33 gx=0.21, gy=0.71, bx=0.149990, by=0.059990 wx=0.312690, wy=0.328990, rx=0.639990, ry=0.33 gx=0.21, gy=0.71, bx=0.149990, by=0.059990 wx=0.312690, wy=0.328990, rx=0.639990, ry=0.33 gx=0.21, gy=0.71, bx=0.149990, by=0.059990 But now it runs. There are some errors locally though, if points of interest are enabled, it splatters some business names over my home area that are about 3 miles away. I hadn't seen that effect before. Anyway, many thanks for the hand holding. Now I can find where a nephew is thinking about buying and building. And keep his aunt happy. > >-- >http://yosemitenews.info/ -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom. -- J.R.R. Tolkien -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to Disable screensaver
On Sunday 28 September 2008 02:47:46 pm Dave Feustel wrote: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:48:24PM -0700, Kam Leo wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm running F9. How do I turn off the screensaver (or extend the > > > timeout period) so I don't have to type my password every two minutes > > > to unlock the screen? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > For Gnome Desktop go to System->Preferences->Look and Feel. > > Thanks! How do I select the kde desktop? For the kde desktop click on the menu > Favorites > System Settings > The Desktop icon > Screen Saver then under the screen saver settings you will see a check box for start automatically and make sure that box is checked under that will be a check box for use password and how long before you will be asked for a password. Peter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to Disable screensaver
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:48:24PM -0700, Kam Leo wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I'm running F9. How do I turn off the screensaver (or extend the >> > timeout period) so I don't have to type my password every two minutes to >> > unlock the screen? >> > >> > Thanks. >> >> For Gnome Desktop go to System->Preferences->Look and Feel. > > Thanks! How do I select the kde desktop? For KDE look in System Settings->Look and Feel->Desktop. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 9 support for the XFS file system
PS = Pete Stieber PS> To answer my own question... PS> PS> # yum install xfsprogs PS> PS> I found this by looking through PS> PS> http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/9/Everything/i386/os/repoview/ PS> PS> There has to be a better way to find what PS> package a particular program is any. I'm PS> sure I'm missing something. What is the PS> preferred technique? Thanks Björn, Todd, and Robert for the "yum whatprovides" & "yum search" hints. Pete -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Switching to KDE (was kde or gnome)
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 05:21 PM 9/28/2008, Dave Feustel wrote:
>
> >
>
>> I'm running F9 and I would like to switch from gnome to kde,
>> but I have not figured out how that is done. Can someone
>> explain how?
>>
> <
>
> Good evening, Dave.
>
> First of all, you need to have KDE installed, if it is not already
> installed. It isn't installed by default, in an initial F9 installation.
> So, you need to log on as root, open up a terminal window, and say "yum
> groupinstall "KDE Softwarre Development"" ("yum groupinstall KDE" may also
> work but I didn't try that).
>
> Then, you have one of two ways: switchdesk, or selecting it in a little box
> on login.
>
> switchdesk is a command-line utility where you log on as yourself, open up
> a terminal window, and say "switchdesk KDE". If you try that and KDE isn't
> installed, it will tell you that you need to use "yum groupinstall "KDE
> Software Development"" to install KDE.
>
> If switchdesk isn't installed, you have to log on as root and say "yum
> install switchdesk" first.
>
> The other way is, when you click on your userID in the login screen but
> before you type in the password, a small pulldown box will appear at the
> bottom center of the screen, containing all of the desktops you have
> installed. Click on the arrow and select "KDE" from that box, and from then
> on, until you change it, all of your logins will be to KDE (again, as long
> as you have KDE installed).
>
> Note that you could use the graphical "Add/Remove Software" to do all the
> KDE installation (and installation of other things like switchdesk), but I
> have had that crash on me once too many times, in the middle of a software
> install session, leaving things in an indeterminate state. So, I use
> "Add/Remove Software" to get a list of everything I need to add, then I use
> the command line "yum install..." or "yum groupinstall..." to do the actual
> installation.
>
> Hope this helps...
>
>
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very simple:
open a terminal and do:
$ su -c "yum groupinstall kde-desktop"
note: "KDE Software Development" installed -devel packages which you don't
need if you're not going to compile anything or develop on top of kde!
log out, choose "KDE" in login manager in in combo-box below, and then
login!
there you have KDE!
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Re: Fedora Install Using DVD and HTTP
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Tod wrote: I have a web server with a DVD drive, and a server with only a CD ROM drive. How can I install fedora on the server over the network using HTTP? I've searched around but haven't found a method that matches my particular situation. Any ideas? Thanks. Do you have SE Linux running in the enforcing mode? If so it makes things a bit harder. You have to remount the DVD with the context=system_u:object_r:httpd_sys_content_t:s0 option before you can serve it using your WEB browser. What I did is loop mount the DVD image, and did not bother to burn a DVD. I used /var/www/html/Fedora as my mount point. Then when I was doing the install, I let the installer configure the network, and told it to use http://192.168.1.9/Fedora to install from. You can ether boot from the boot CD for this, or boot from a USB drive. I like using the USB drive because I don't end up with so many CD's for installing old versions. You will have to change 192.168.1.9 to the IP address of your web server. Mikkel Sorry for my tardy response, but this did the trick! Thanks for your and everyone else's suggestions. - Tod -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: google-earth problem
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gene Heskett wrote: >I nuked the /opt/google-earth directory, pulled the older one, >overwriting the newer -bin, and installed it. Same error. Are >there any libs hidden away someplace else? Did you also nuke the dot directory in your home directory? -- http://yosemitenews.info/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Switching to KDE (was kde or gnome)
At 05:21 PM 9/28/2008, Dave Feustel wrote:
>
I'm running F9 and I would like to switch from gnome to kde,
but I have not figured out how that is done. Can someone
explain how?
<
Good evening, Dave.
First of all, you need to have KDE installed, if it is not already
installed. It isn't installed by default, in an initial F9
installation. So, you need to log on as root, open up a terminal
window, and say "yum groupinstall "KDE Softwarre Development"" ("yum
groupinstall KDE" may also work but I didn't try that).
Then, you have one of two ways: switchdesk, or selecting it in a
little box on login.
switchdesk is a command-line utility where you log on as yourself,
open up a terminal window, and say "switchdesk KDE". If you try that
and KDE isn't installed, it will tell you that you need to use "yum
groupinstall "KDE Software Development"" to install KDE.
If switchdesk isn't installed, you have to log on as root and say
"yum install switchdesk" first.
The other way is, when you click on your userID in the login screen
but before you type in the password, a small pulldown box will appear
at the bottom center of the screen, containing all of the desktops
you have installed. Click on the arrow and select "KDE" from that
box, and from then on, until you change it, all of your logins will
be to KDE (again, as long as you have KDE installed).
Note that you could use the graphical "Add/Remove Software" to do all
the KDE installation (and installation of other things like
switchdesk), but I have had that crash on me once too many times, in
the middle of a software install session, leaving things in an
indeterminate state. So, I use "Add/Remove Software" to get a list
of everything I need to add, then I use the command line "yum
install..." or "yum groupinstall..." to do the actual installation.
Hope this helps...
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Re: kde or gnome
I'm running F9 and I would like to switch from gnome to kde, but I have not figured out how that is done. Can someone explain how? Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: google-earth problem
On Sunday 28 September 2008, Robert wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> Greetings all; >> >> I hadn't run GoogleEarth in a couple of months, and when I try to run it >> now, I'm getting this message: >> >> [~]# googleearth >> do_wait: drmWaitVBlank returned -1, IRQs don't seem to be working >> correctly. Try running with LIBGL_THROTTLE_REFRESH and LIBL_SYNC_REFRESH >> unset. ^C >> >> And its hung on the initial postcard sized window until I ctl-c it. >> >> Anybody have a clue? Machine is F8, ATI 9200SE with radeon driver, AMD >> XP-2800, uptodate as of an hour ago. > >Not exactly but I had to back down to Googleearth 4.2.0205.5730, built >Nov. 13, 2007 on this CentOS-5, AMD XP 2600+ ATI Radeon 9000 box. I >removed the broken version using brute force, downloaded ver 4.2 at >http://dl.google.com/earth/client/GE4/release_4_2/GoogleEarthLinux.bin >and haven't looked back. I nuked the /opt/google-earth directory, pulled the older one, overwriting the newer -bin, and installed it. Same error. Are there any libs hidden away someplace else? Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Catharsis is something I associate with pornography and crossword puzzles. -- Howard Chaykin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 32 or 64 bit kernel for Duo T8400 processor ? Can apps be 32 bit for 64 bit kernel ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/28/2008 12:54 PM, linuxguy wrote: | My new laptop has an Intel Duo T8400 processor. Should I install the 32 | or 64 bit distro ? I run a lot of esoteric open source apps. Can I | run a 32 bit application if I install the 64 bit distro ? Other have answered about Firefox. I'm running 64-bit Fedora 9 with a quad-core AMD Opteron with no problems. 32-bit apps work well, especially on Fedora where you have the 32-bit libraries installed in addition to the 64-bit libraries. I also have a 64-bit laptop that has been running a 64-bit Linux OS for about 5 years with no problems. Memory management under 64-bits is better than it is in a 32-bit OS. A few years ago, I did perform some benchmarks and found that 32-bit apps generally are faster with a 64-bit OS. - -- Jerry Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI3/MJRgdDGVN8WEYRAgKqAJ4oVlnOaAtZKaeGIz/0aBBR6QXC1QCfZP2u zqsX730Zje9CBF482uTEhyU= =stcl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Finding a Font to Support a Unicode Block (X11)
On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 13:33 -0700, Michael Rohan wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Just posted this to comp.fonts, but figured I should try here also. > > > Not sure if this is the correct group, but I have code that generated > Unicode strings displayed via Java on X Windows. The strings include > characters from the Enclosed Alphanumerics Unicode block. On one > Linux system (where I've installed every font package I could find), > the strings display as expected. On another Linux (default) system, > they display as little squares, i.e., missing. > > > Is there a way to directly identify the font needed to support a > particular Unicode block? Not that I'm aware of. However, the larger the size of the font file, the better your chances are. Also, the SIL fonts, such as Charis and Gentium, are more likely to be useful to you because they support a much wider variety of Unicode characters than most fonts. -- Bruce Byfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kde or gnome
On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 10:30 -0700, Jason Turning wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Tim wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 12:16 -0400, William Biggs wrote: > >> I would like to know witch one is better kde or gnome ? > > > > Gnome, of course... I say that just to stick fingers up the various KDE > > fanboys on this list. There's plenty that extoll it's virtues (that I > > don't care for - it emphasises prettiness and endless fiddling over > > actually using the computer, and the current incarnation is far from > > ready for use), compared against fewer people that evangelise Gnome over > > KDE. > > > > But being more serious. Fedora uses Gnome by default, the documentation > > shows you how to use it with Gnome, much of the configuration uses Gnome > > tools, etc. The other window managers are *alternatives*. If you're > > starting out as a Linux newbie, and want an easier start, it's probably > > much easier to do so with Gnome. Then once you've got your footing, you > > can try out the alternatives. > > > > I've tried and used several window managers. KDE is a time waster, > > Gnome just works. Some of the lighter weight ones don't work, without a > > big fight, with recent versions of Fedora (which seems to depend on > > Gnome or KDE triggering off a few things that says the current user of > > the console should have sound, should connect to a network, should mount > > an inserted disc, etc.). When you use some alternative window managers, > > you have to handle all of that yourself, manually. > > > > I mainly agree. Gnome works pretty well with Fedora and is a good starting > point. It's a good, clean desktop environment, and gives you the best way to > try out Fedora. > > I actually prefer KDE and run KDE 3.5.9 on my Slackware desktop, but I'm still > playing with and figuring out KDE 4.1 on Fedora 9. When I just want to use my > laptop I'm running Gnome. You have to love Gnu/Linux for having these > choices, :). > qlwm = fast and easy to use > - -- > Jason Turning > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAkjfvzoACgkQVvqmgl050ryU3wCfU1dvtTF8ljKUVwZUY+PIIoMu > OLwAn1dQr8i9etPzHmhg4xBoUNORfqeW > =XPgl > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > -- LostSon http://lostsonsvault.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network manager and dns
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 04:42:46PM -0400, Mail Lists wrote: > Timothy Murphy wrote: > > Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > > > > > > > Something else that would be nice would be priroities - user defined > order to connect with (like wpa_supplicant does for example) > > Something else that would be nice - root config as well as user configs > - that way with root config and priorities admins can set up laptop with > pre-approved networks and the order to attermpt connection - this way > network can be allowed to come up at boot time instead of demanding that > the user graphically login first. I suppose root shud optionally permit > user overrides thereafter ... > > Would be an added bonus if configs could be at aleast saved and > recovered as text file(s) - even if nm uses the gnome registry - it is > not admin convenient for tuning and deployment (in my view anyway). The best way to get your suggestions for changes implemented is by filing bugs. It's not often that the developers have time to comb these lists to get that feedback. Here's where you can find some more information on that: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugsAndFeatureRequests As for the GConf registry (which is not limited to GNOME), using this registry actually makes for easier tuning and deployment using tools like Sabayon that help the administrator set the /etc/gconf system-wide registry and associated policies appropriately, from which user settings are derived according to permissions granted by the sysadmin. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgp2yOcJZijhH.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Migrate back to FC9 ? Easiest way ? Should have been F9 to F8...
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, linuxguy wrote: >Sorry for the confusion. I should have said I wanted to migrate back >to F8, from F9. I was half asleep when I wrote that. Can't blame you. I "upgraded" to F9 yesterday and this new KDE is really bad. It has me seriously thinking of going to centos for my desktop. -- http://blameitonlove.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network manager and dns
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 03:32:40PM -0400, Mail Lists wrote: > Paul W. Frields wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:03:26PM -0400, Mail Lists wrote: > > > > > > I'm using Fedora 9, and when I right click the Network Manager applet > > in my task tray, and choose "Edit Connections," I find that these > > kinds of solutions are available in the IP setup tab for any of my > > wireless networks. For example, there's a setting for "DHCP > > (addresses only)," and there's a setting to put in a BSSID for a > > particular wireless AP, so you can create connections that are per-AP > > if you like, and then select them manually from the applet. > > > > There's also the /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/ folder, which lets > > you drop scripts in for special management whenever Network Manager > > connects or disconnects. > > > > > > Great thank you ... there is indeed more there. What I think would be > nice, when it does a scan it sees multiple AP's on same ssid - it would > be nice if there was a click and then for that SSID it showed all AP's > by MAC in the scan - typing in the BSSID requires me to scan (or know) > and copy the scan by hand. You could file an enhancement request to the developers in Bugzilla for this. I wonder if that might pretty squarely conflict with the human interface guidelines they're using. After all, this is not something the user really should be too worried about in most cases. Still, worth mentioning to them. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpEMIObEKMLC.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to Disable screensaver
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:48:24PM -0700, Kam Leo wrote: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm running F9. How do I turn off the screensaver (or extend the > > timeout period) so I don't have to type my password every two minutes to > > unlock the screen? > > > > Thanks. > > For Gnome Desktop go to System->Preferences->Look and Feel. Thanks! How do I select the kde desktop? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network manager and dns
Timothy Murphy wrote: > Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > > Something else that would be nice would be priroities - user defined order to connect with (like wpa_supplicant does for example) Something else that would be nice - root config as well as user configs - that way with root config and priorities admins can set up laptop with pre-approved networks and the order to attermpt connection - this way network can be allowed to come up at boot time instead of demanding that the user graphically login first. I suppose root shud optionally permit user overrides thereafter ... Would be an added bonus if configs could be at aleast saved and recovered as text file(s) - even if nm uses the gnome registry - it is not admin convenient for tuning and deployment (in my view anyway). gene -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why is Firefox such a beast?? -- New trouble
Beartooth wrote: > I'm getting confused as between machines, which is which; but > Firefox has come up with another little nasty trick on at least two of > them : when it does launch, it does so in offline mode -- and then > complains because it can't refresh various sites. > > Surely there has to be a setting somewhere for whether to launch > in online or offline mode? I haven't seen it, much less changed it on > purpose ... In my case, at least, this is a bye-product of NM (Network Manager). If I shutdown running Firefox (I assume it would be the same with any other browser) then when I boot Fedora re-starts Firefox before NM has connected me to my wireless access point. So Firefox has to start in offline mode. I wish there was at least an option to start NM before login, if it can see the last AP it connected to. In my case, and I suspect the vast majority of users, I use the same AP for weeks or even months on end. I find the philosophy of NM bizarre in many respects. Admittedly it works, while the network service used to cause me at least endless trouble. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Finding a Font to Support a Unicode Block (X11)
Hi Folks, Just posted this to comp.fonts, but figured I should try here also. Not sure if this is the correct group, but I have code that generated Unicode strings displayed via Java on X Windows. The strings include characters from the Enclosed Alphanumerics Unicode block. On one Linux system (where I've installed every font package I could find), the strings display as expected. On another Linux (default) system, they display as little squares, i.e., missing. Is there a way to directly identify the font needed to support a particular Unicode block? Take care, Michael. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kde or gnome
Aldo Foot wrote: > Gnome is better for a linux newbie. They don't know the difference between > Desktop Managers (DM), but a Sys Admin does. If you install a new system > and > ask them: "...and what DM will you like to use today?", the response will > be a blank face followed by a prolonged "Huhhh". For what I read > lately Gnome has Fire-And-Forget capabilities. So I'd just give them > Gnome. This manages to be both patronizing and misleading. A "system administrator" who actually asked a user (newbie of not) "what DM do you want to use today" would thereby prove himself utterly incompetent. In any case, most Linux (and Fedora) users are their own system administrators, so the issue simply does not arise in this way. I'm always amazed at the number of people who feel they know exactly what "newbies" should do, without as far as I can see ever taking any steps to find out what these users actually want or need. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network manager and dns
Paul W. Frields wrote: >> > I use network manager to connect to wireless. Every time, this tool >> > modifies /etc/resolv.conf. Is there any way to let NM to get only the >> > IP adress and to not modify the dns? >> There is a checkbox for this. I don't remember the exact wording - I >> think it was something about peerdns. > > You can either add a line like this to the > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg- file: > > PEERDNS=no > > Or you can use System > Administration > Network, and turn off the > "Automatically obtain DNS information from provider" checkbox for the > appropriate interface. Is this last suggestion Gnome-specific? I don't see any such checkbox in my KDE=>Administration=>Network Control. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to Disable screensaver
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm running F9. How do I turn off the screensaver (or extend the > timeout period) so I don't have to type my password every two minutes to > unlock the screen? > > Thanks. For Gnome Desktop go to System->Preferences->Look and Feel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why is Firefox such a beast?? -- New trouble
On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 18:42 +, Beartooth wrote: > On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:03:44 +, Beartooth wrote: > > > I'm running Firefox under F8 and F9 on five different machines, and it's > > a pain on every one of them, albeit in slightly different ways; but the > > differences differ, too. > > > > The first thing they have in common is that it takes forever to > > launch -- when it does launch. The second is that it mostly doesn't. It > > will try, and the little blue dots will circle for a while, and the > > window list on the panel will show a mark for it -- for a while. > > Sometimes one or another window will flash up and disappear, usually too > > fast even to identify. > [] > > I'm getting confused as between machines, which is which; but > Firefox has come up with another little nasty trick on at least two of > them : when it does launch, it does so in offline mode -- and then > complains because it can't refresh various sites. Are you running NetworkManager? If so, is NM managing your default interface? If it's running but thinks it's offline (even if it really isn't), Firefox may also think it's offline. This happens with Evolution as well, which is why I mention it as a possibility. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network manager and dns
Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:03:26PM -0400, Mail Lists wrote: > > > I'm using Fedora 9, and when I right click the Network Manager applet > in my task tray, and choose "Edit Connections," I find that these > kinds of solutions are available in the IP setup tab for any of my > wireless networks. For example, there's a setting for "DHCP > (addresses only)," and there's a setting to put in a BSSID for a > particular wireless AP, so you can create connections that are per-AP > if you like, and then select them manually from the applet. > > There's also the /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/ folder, which lets > you drop scripts in for special management whenever Network Manager > connects or disconnects. > > Great thank you ... there is indeed more there. What I think would be nice, when it does a scan it sees multiple AP's on same ssid - it would be nice if there was a click and then for that SSID it showed all AP's by MAC in the scan - typing in the BSSID requires me to scan (or know) and copy the scan by hand. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
How to Disable screensaver
I'm running F9. How do I turn off the screensaver (or extend the timeout period) so I don't have to type my password every two minutes to unlock the screen? Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why is Firefox such a beast?? -- New trouble
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Beartooth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:03:44 +, Beartooth wrote: > >> I'm running Firefox under F8 and F9 on five different machines, and it's >> a pain on every one of them, albeit in slightly different ways; but the >> differences differ, too. >> >> The first thing they have in common is that it takes forever to >> launch -- when it does launch. The second is that it mostly doesn't. It >> will try, and the little blue dots will circle for a while, and the >> window list on the panel will show a mark for it -- for a while. >> Sometimes one or another window will flash up and disappear, usually too >> fast even to identify. >[] > >I'm getting confused as between machines, which is which; but > Firefox has come up with another little nasty trick on at least two of > them : when it does launch, it does so in offline mode -- and then > complains because it can't refresh various sites. > >Surely there has to be a setting somewhere for whether to launch > in online or offline mode? I haven't seen it, much less changed it on > purpose ... > Is there an option like File->Work Offline checked in the browser? ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why is Firefox such a beast??
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:20:46 + (UTC) Beartooth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > NoScript, noreferrer, adblock, flashblock, redirect remover, Some of these are redundant. For example, Noscript can block flash, so you don't need flashblock if you have noscript installed. And so on. I'm less than shocked that you're having problems. You are loading far too many extensions (the mere fact that it can be done does not imply that it should be done) and some of them are stepping on each other trying to do the same job. If you want to set up a new Firefox correctly and reasonably securely (for certain values of correct and secure, of course), read my article here: http://www.melvilletheatre.com/articles/squid-privoxy/index.html You can tweak the privoxy configuration to determine how it handles many things (including referrers) and you won't have to have 6 million (or three dozen) Firefox extensions loaded. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why is Firefox such a beast?? -- New trouble
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:03:44 +, Beartooth wrote: > I'm running Firefox under F8 and F9 on five different machines, and it's > a pain on every one of them, albeit in slightly different ways; but the > differences differ, too. > > The first thing they have in common is that it takes forever to > launch -- when it does launch. The second is that it mostly doesn't. It > will try, and the little blue dots will circle for a while, and the > window list on the panel will show a mark for it -- for a while. > Sometimes one or another window will flash up and disappear, usually too > fast even to identify. [] I'm getting confused as between machines, which is which; but Firefox has come up with another little nasty trick on at least two of them : when it does launch, it does so in offline mode -- and then complains because it can't refresh various sites. Surely there has to be a setting somewhere for whether to launch in online or offline mode? I haven't seen it, much less changed it on purpose ... -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2, Epiphany 2, Opera 9, Firefox 2 & 3 Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why is Firefox such a beast??
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 06:20:46PM +, Beartooth wrote: > On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:49:54 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > > > On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:25:02 + (UTC) Beartooth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> But I *think* two of them are down to about fifty each, > > > > Fifty extensions? Wow. > > > > My Firefox currently has 8 extension installed and I don't think I'm > > really missing out on anything. > > I just got through counting; on the machine I'm on right now, > ignoring things grayed out, there are three dozen. At least eight > defenses -- NoScript, noreferrer, adblock, flashblock, redirect remover, > etc.; half a dozen or more are for tweaking tabbed browsing; and the rest > are either reference tools like the Mozilla Internet Dictionary, or > conveniences like colorful tabs, no squint, and speed dial. > I have about four or five extensions and even that seems a bit excessive to me! -- Chris Green -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why is Firefox such a beast??
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:49:54 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:25:02 + (UTC) Beartooth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> But I *think* two of them are down to about fifty each, > > Fifty extensions? Wow. > > My Firefox currently has 8 extension installed and I don't think I'm > really missing out on anything. I just got through counting; on the machine I'm on right now, ignoring things grayed out, there are three dozen. At least eight defenses -- NoScript, noreferrer, adblock, flashblock, redirect remover, etc.; half a dozen or more are for tweaking tabbed browsing; and the rest are either reference tools like the Mozilla Internet Dictionary, or conveniences like colorful tabs, no squint, and speed dial. -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert I have never owned a television. Nor wanted to. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why is Firefox such a beast??
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:27:14 +, Beartooth wrote: > On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:10:56 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > [...] >> None of the things you complain about have happened to me in several >> years of using Firefox (basically since version 1), so I'm inclined to >> think it's something in your environment or add-ons. > > Oh good. That's what I wanted to hear : there is hope. > >> Have you tried it on a fresh user account with no add-ons, just to >> check? > > No; good idea. I added a user; did su to the user, and invoked > Ffx from the CLI; it came right up -- with all the lousy language cruft > (even though I had just tried to rid it of that as root), but at least > without extensions. On my present #1 machine, with the add-ond cut down to about three dozen, it has been arrantly refusing to launch from a launcher. I finally tried "firefox &" as my regular user. It did launch -- and I have a growing wad of messages like these : = = = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ firefox & [1] 29425 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ Sun 28 Sep 2008 02:09:49 PM EDT: VERBOSE (initDailyDilbert): enter methodSun 28 Sep 2008 02:09:49 PM EDT: ERROR (initDailyDilbert): dailyDilbertLogger could not be initiatedSun 28 Sep 2008 02:09:49 PM EDT: DEBUG (initDailyDilbert): dailyDilbertLocalizer initiatedSun 28 Sep 2008 02:09:49 PM EDT: VERBOSE (loadDailyDilbertPreferences): enter methodSun 28 Sep 2008 02:09:49 PM EDT: VERBOSE (loadDailyDilbertPreferences): leave methodSun 28 Sep 2008 02:09:49 PM EDT: DEBUG (initDailyDilbert): dailyDilbertPreferences initiatedSun 28 Sep 2008 02:09:49 PM EDT: INFO (initDailyDilbert): initDailyDilbert initiatedSun 28 Sep 2008 02:09:49 PM EDT: VERBOSE (initDailyDilbert): leave method ColorfulTabs Log: clrtabsInit ColorfulTabs Log: setCtPref name: ColorfulTabs version: 3.4 cl: calcTabClr Tab readonly? 30 95 68 78 ColorfulTabs Log: initTabcontext true appending*** Failed to get string msg239 in bundle: chrome://febe/locale/febe.properties *** Failed to get string msg239 in bundle: chrome://febe/locale/ febe.properties *** Failed to get string msg239 in bundle: chrome://febe/locale/ febe.properties [nosquint] start init [nosquint] zooming all tabs; attach listeners = true [nosquint] getSiteFromURI took 0 ms [nosquint] set zoom: text=100, full=120 [nosquint] getSiteFromURI took 0 ms [nosquint] set zoom: text=100, full=120 [nosquint] initialization took 59 ms [nosquint] getSiteFromURI took 0 ms [nosquint] set zoom: text=100, full=120 cl: calcTabClr Tab readonly? 30 95 68 78[nosquint] getSiteFromURI took 0 ms [nosquint] set zoom: text=100, full=120 cl: calcTabClr Tab readonly? 30 95 68 78[nosquint] getSiteFromURI took 0 ms [nosquint] set zoom: text=100, full=120 cl: calcTabClr Tab readonly? 30 95 68 78[nosquint] getSiteFromURI took 0 ms [nosquint] set zoom: text=100, full=120 cl: calcTabClr Tab readonly? 30 95 68 78[nosquint] getSiteFromURI took 0 ms [nosquint] set zoom: text=100, full=120 cl: calcTabClr Tab readonly? 30 95 68 78[nosquint] getSiteFromURI took 0 ms [nosquint] set zoom: text=100, full=120 cl: calcTabClr Tab readonly? 30 95 68 78[nosquint] getSiteFromURI took 0 ms [nosquint] set zoom: text=100, full=120 cl: calcTabClr Tab readonly? 30 95 68 78[nosquint] getSiteFromURI took 1 ms [nosquint] set zoom: text=100, full=120 cl: calcTabClr Tab readonly? 30 95 68 78[nosquint] getSiteFromURI took 0 ms [nosquint] set zoom: text=100, full=120 cl: calcTabClr Tab readonly? 30 95 68 78[nosquint] Location change: http://www.vtluug.org/forum/ index.php#3 [nosquint] aborting next ZoomManager zoom [nosquint] getSiteFromURI took 7 ms [nosquint] set zoom: text=80, full=115 [nosquint] EATING ZOOM REQUEST: 1 [nosquint] Location change: http://titan.lserv.com/mailman/admindb/ babblexia [nosquint] aborting next ZoomManager zoom [nosquint] getSiteFromURI took 6 ms [nosquint] set zoom: text=100, full=120 [nosquint] Location change: https://www.freedomfirstcu.com/ [nosquint] aborting next ZoomManager zoom [nosquint] getSiteFromURI took 6 ms [nosquint] set zoom: text=180, full=120 [nosquint] Location change: https://www.freedomfirstcu.com/ [nosquint] aborting next ZoomManager zoom [nosquint] getSiteFromURI took 23 ms [nosquint] set zoom: text=180, full=120 [nosquint] Location change: http://titan.lserv.com/mailman/admin/ babblexia/members/list [nosquint] aborting next ZoomManager zoom [nosquint] getSiteFromURI took 6 ms [nosquint] set zoom: text=100, full=120 [nosquint] Location change: http://www.hypernews.org/HyperNews/get/trails/ PATC.html [nosquint] aborting next ZoomManager zoom [nosquint] getSiteFromURI took 0 ms [nosquint] set zoom: text=110, full=110 [nosquint] Location change: http://caracal.info/staff%20and%20% 20collaborators/staff%20and%20collaborators.htm# [nosquint] aborting next ZoomManager zoom [nosquint] getSiteFromURI took 0 ms [nosquint] set zoom: text
Re: Network manager and dns
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:03:26PM -0400, Mail Lists wrote: > Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > > You can either add a line like this to the > > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg- file: > > > > PEERDNS=no > > > > Or you can use System > Administration > Network, and turn off the > > "Automatically obtain DNS information from provider" checkbox for the > > appropriate interface. > > > > > >Is NetworkManager supposed to pay attention to those things ? >Perhaps i don't have all the right pieces but NM ignores anything >I've done to any config file - perhaps nm_applet needs to be >enhanced to allow routing, dns overrides etc. Also be nice when >there are multple AP's on same SSID if it would show them (and >MAC's) as well and allow user to choose the AP. Even if network >config file editing did work, the applet shud be enhanced. I'm using Fedora 9, and when I right click the Network Manager applet in my task tray, and choose "Edit Connections," I find that these kinds of solutions are available in the IP setup tab for any of my wireless networks. For example, there's a setting for "DHCP (addresses only)," and there's a setting to put in a BSSID for a particular wireless AP, so you can create connections that are per-AP if you like, and then select them manually from the applet. There's also the /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/ folder, which lets you drop scripts in for special management whenever Network Manager connects or disconnects. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpNqaVJJkNq4.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 32 or 64 bit kernel for Duo T8400 processor ? Can apps be 32 bit for 64 bit kernel ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > linuxguy wrote: >> My new laptop has an Intel Duo T8400 processor. Should I install the 32 >> or 64 bit distro ? I run a lot of esoteric open source apps. Can I >> run a 32 bit application if I install the 64 bit distro ? > > I'm running F9.x86_64 on my Intel Core2 T7200. I have a small number of > 32 apps installed for those edge cases where the parts either don't > work, or aren't available in 64 bit. nspluginwrapper takes care of most > of those for me (OK, I have to run adeona in 32 bit as well, grumble, > grumble). But, for the most part, 64 bit works for me. YMMV I'm running 64 bit Fedora 9 on AMD Athlon 64 X2, and it works pretty well. You'll have to use nspluginwrapper for Flash with the 64 bit Firefox, and I've found this to be a bit buggy. Especially jumping around the NFL website with game tracking. Sometimes it won't load and you'll get grey boxes where Flash content should be (reload or page back and click again works to fix). And I have to grab the 64 bit Enigmail from Remi as it's not in the Fedora repos. I haven't had a issue running 32 bit apps. Basically, unless you're doing something where you'll really benefit from the speed increase of 64 bit, video transcoding for example, you'll save yourself some headaches going 32 bit. But if you just want to play with 64 bit it's ready. - -- Jason Turning -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjfxR4ACgkQVvqmgl050ryoHgCfQr9NHUrhTPEOnO9wnrTH79s8 xn8An3Nj7VVp9TroezdZAuNp61LL4E3D =LcR6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
[solved] Re: avahi-autoipd error during yumex update
Richard England wrote: Using yumex to update my F9 installation, this morning, and I encountered the following: 09:30:02 : Transaction Check Error: file /etc/avahi/avahi-autoipd.action from install of avahi-autoipd-0.6.22-10.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package avahi-0.6.17-1.fc7.i386 file /usr/sbin/avahi-autoipd from install of avahi-autoipd-0.6.22-10.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package avahi-0.6.17-1.fc7.i386 file /usr/share/man/man8/avahi-autoipd.8.gz from install of avahi-autoipd-0.6.22-10.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package avahi-0.6.17-1.fc7.i386 avahi-autoipd update is apparently brought in as a dependency of NetworkManager-0.7.0-11.svn4402.fc9.i386 update. When I look for the files indicated as being in conflict, I do not find them on my system. Has anyone else encountered this? Workarounds? Causes? The ~~R Why do you see the problem 30 seconds after you send the mail? For some reason there were two versions of avahi installed (it says that in the message ...duh...) I ran rpm -e --noscripts avahi-0.6.17 rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db* rpm --rebuilddb Then updated NetManager using yumex and it ran. Sorry for the fire drill but maybe this will help someone else see the obvious symptoms in the future. ~~R -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
firefox --class WM_CLASS_user_defined_value (firefox3)
It used to be (in any firefox 2.0.0.X and below) that one could force the value of the xprop WM_CLASS value to some user-defined value rather than a default value, by using a command line argument. For example #version 2.0.0.16 started with --class=Firefox2 % xprop | grep WM_CLASS WM_CLASS(STRING) = "gecko", "Firefox2" This is useful for window managers that use WM_CLASS to sort icons. Questions: 1. What happened in the source code, and where? 2. is there a workaround that I can use? I have grep'ed the source code for 2.0.0.16 and 3.01 without coming to any conclusions. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kde or gnome
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim wrote: > On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 12:16 -0400, William Biggs wrote: >> I would like to know witch one is better kde or gnome ? > > Gnome, of course... I say that just to stick fingers up the various KDE > fanboys on this list. There's plenty that extoll it's virtues (that I > don't care for - it emphasises prettiness and endless fiddling over > actually using the computer, and the current incarnation is far from > ready for use), compared against fewer people that evangelise Gnome over > KDE. > > But being more serious. Fedora uses Gnome by default, the documentation > shows you how to use it with Gnome, much of the configuration uses Gnome > tools, etc. The other window managers are *alternatives*. If you're > starting out as a Linux newbie, and want an easier start, it's probably > much easier to do so with Gnome. Then once you've got your footing, you > can try out the alternatives. > > I've tried and used several window managers. KDE is a time waster, > Gnome just works. Some of the lighter weight ones don't work, without a > big fight, with recent versions of Fedora (which seems to depend on > Gnome or KDE triggering off a few things that says the current user of > the console should have sound, should connect to a network, should mount > an inserted disc, etc.). When you use some alternative window managers, > you have to handle all of that yourself, manually. > I mainly agree. Gnome works pretty well with Fedora and is a good starting point. It's a good, clean desktop environment, and gives you the best way to try out Fedora. I actually prefer KDE and run KDE 3.5.9 on my Slackware desktop, but I'm still playing with and figuring out KDE 4.1 on Fedora 9. When I just want to use my laptop I'm running Gnome. You have to love Gnu/Linux for having these choices, :). - -- Jason Turning -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjfvzoACgkQVvqmgl050ryU3wCfU1dvtTF8ljKUVwZUY+PIIoMu OLwAn1dQr8i9etPzHmhg4xBoUNORfqeW =XPgl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 32 or 64 bit kernel for Duo T8400 processor ? Can apps be 32 bit for 64 bit kernel ?
linuxguy wrote: My new laptop has an Intel Duo T8400 processor. Should I install the 32 or 64 bit distro ? I run a lot of esoteric open source apps. Can I run a 32 bit application if I install the 64 bit distro ? I'm running F9.x86_64 on my Intel Core2 T7200. I have a small number of 32 apps installed for those edge cases where the parts either don't work, or aren't available in 64 bit. nspluginwrapper takes care of most of those for me (OK, I have to run adeona in 32 bit as well, grumble, grumble). But, for the most part, 64 bit works for me. YMMV Thanks -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Migrate back to FC9 ? Easiest way ? Should have been F9 to F8...
On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 09:53 -0700, Globe Trotter wrote: > Hi, > > F9 is the latest in the stable Fedoras. How did you get a F10 installed? In > any case, the data can be migrated, very easily if you have a separate > partition for it. Sorry for the confusion. I should have said I wanted to migrate back to F8, from F9. I was half asleep when I wrote that. LG -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
avahi-autoipd error during yumex update
Using yumex to update my F9 installation, this morning, and I encountered the following: 09:30:02 : Transaction Check Error: file /etc/avahi/avahi-autoipd.action from install of avahi-autoipd-0.6.22-10.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package avahi-0.6.17-1.fc7.i386 file /usr/sbin/avahi-autoipd from install of avahi-autoipd-0.6.22-10.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package avahi-0.6.17-1.fc7.i386 file /usr/share/man/man8/avahi-autoipd.8.gz from install of avahi-autoipd-0.6.22-10.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package avahi-0.6.17-1.fc7.i386 avahi-autoipd update is apparently brought in as a dependency of NetworkManager-0.7.0-11.svn4402.fc9.i386 update. When I look for the files indicated as being in conflict, I do not find them on my system. Has anyone else encountered this? Workarounds? Causes? The ~~R -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
32 or 64 bit kernel for Duo T8400 processor ? Can apps be 32 bit for 64 bit kernel ?
My new laptop has an Intel Duo T8400 processor. Should I install the 32 or 64 bit distro ? I run a lot of esoteric open source apps. Can I run a 32 bit application if I install the 64 bit distro ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Migrate back to FC9 ? Easiest way ?
Hi, F9 is the latest in the stable Fedoras. How did you get a F10 installed? In any case, the data can be migrated, very easily if you have a separate partition for it. Hope this helps! Trotter --- On Sun, 9/28/08, linuxguy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: linuxguy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Migrate back to FC9 ? Easiest way ? > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." > > Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 11:01 AM > I'm getting a new laptop today and I have to migrate my > current Linux > install to the new hard drive on it. It has a 64 bit > processor. I'm > thinking that while I am doing the migration I might just > as well > install F9 instead of F10 and then migrate the data from my > F10 > installation to the new F9 installation. > > How hard is it to move the data from F10 back to an F9 > installation ? > > Thanks > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fwd: Config Network Setting]
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 7:53 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear All, > > I just have the problem of "Destination Host Unreachable" from eth1 ( ping > to other same network segment internal machine ) as the following setting : > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] network-scripts]# cat ifcfg-eth0 > DEVICE=eth0 > BOOTPROTO=dhcp > ONBOOT=no > [EMAIL PROTECTED] network-scripts]# > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] network-scripts]# cat ifcfg-eth1 > DEVICE=eth1 > BOOTPROTO=static > BROADCAST=192.168.0.255 > IPADDR=192.168.0.254 > NETMASK=255.255.255.0 > NETWORK=192.168.0.0 > ONBOOT=yes > [EMAIL PROTECTED] network-scripts]# > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] network-scripts]# cat ../network > NETWORKING=yes > HOSTNAME=svr1 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] network-scripts]# > > So, what is the problem of the current setting ? > > BTW, what different between modify ifcfg-eth? and running the tools of > "system-config-network" ? The system-config-network is just a GUI to make it easier to configure the devices. What kind of network devices do you have? are they PCI cards or attached to the motherboard? ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kde or gnome
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But being more serious. Fedora uses Gnome by default, the documentation > shows you how to use it with Gnome, much of the configuration uses Gnome > tools, etc. The other window managers are *alternatives*. If you're > starting out as a Linux newbie, and want an easier start, it's probably > much easier to do so with Gnome. Then once you've got your footing, you > can try out the alternatives. Gnome is better for a linux newbie. They don't know the difference between Desktop Managers (DM), but a Sys Admin does. If you install a new system and ask them: "...and what DM will you like to use today?", the response will be a blank face followed by a prolonged "Huhhh". For what I read lately Gnome has Fire-And-Forget capabilities. So I'd just give them Gnome. > I've tried and used several window managers. KDE is a time waster, > Gnome just works. Some of the lighter weight ones don't work, without a > big fight, with recent versions of Fedora (which seems to depend on > Gnome or KDE triggering off a few things that says the current user of > the console should have sound, should connect to a network, should mount > an inserted disc, etc.). When you use some alternative window managers, > you have to handle all of that yourself, manually. I started using Linux on text terminals... monochrome. Then one day I discovered graphical linux and started using Gnome, but I found it annoying that I had to open a new xterm for every other thing. I tried KDE and it gave me tabbed xterms, and that was it. I have used KDE for as long as I can remember and the only thing that it does not do is to say "Hello Master..." when I log into my system; could they add this feature? :-) I have concluded that the more you use the desktop features of a DM the more likely you'll get the point-and-click syndrome. For experienced users a GUI is an optional thing. Isn't the idea of a pretty DM aimed at giving Linux a nice appearance? It works well with new users. BTW - I used F8 and have not tried KDE 4.x yet. ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fwd: Config Network Setting]
On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 22:53 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dear All, > > I just have the problem of "Destination Host Unreachable" from eth1 > ( ping to other same network segment internal machine ) as the > following setting : > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] network-scripts]# cat ifcfg-eth0 > DEVICE=eth0 > BOOTPROTO=dhcp > ONBOOT=no > [EMAIL PROTECTED] network-scripts]# > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] network-scripts]# cat ifcfg-eth1 > DEVICE=eth1 > BOOTPROTO=static > BROADCAST=192.168.0.255 > IPADDR=192.168.0.254 > NETMASK=255.255.255.0 > NETWORK=192.168.0.0 > ONBOOT=yes > [EMAIL PROTECTED] network-scripts]# > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] network-scripts]# cat ../network > NETWORKING=yes > HOSTNAME=svr1 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] network-scripts]# > > So, what is the problem of the current setting ? looks OK except that I would recommend that you use a FQDN in /etc/sysconfig/network and not just a name... i.e. srv1.mynetwork.com obviously /dev/eth0 is not going to be loaded at boot time - but that may be your intentions. > > BTW, what different between modify ifcfg-eth? and running the tools of > "system-config-network" ? shouldn't be any difference as either should modify the same /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX file system-config-network does have the ability to also edit your 'hosts' file (/etc/hosts), you dns resolution configuration (/etc/resolv.conf) at one session. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fc10 and raid-10
Stuart Sears wrote: Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: The Fedora installer has insisted on requiring four drives for raid-10 install, and then not using raid-10, but rather raid-1+0 which is *NOT* the same thing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID#Nested_levels ah, but... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-standard_RAID_levels See the Linux MD RAID 10 section. (or man md, if you'd prefer) Ah, that RAID-10 ;-) It's naming is a little confusing; RAID-10 (as used by the installer) is what the installer uses to create RAID-1+0 (commonly referred to as RAID-10, but indeed just "mirroring a stripeset" (1+0), but in one single layer (10)), and hence requires 4 disks. There's no RAID-10 in the installer as you refer to just like there is no RAID LVM configuration, and whatnot. The installer is a helper program to make the initial configuration for a new installation a breeze, not to make sure it has every little checkbox for every possible option. If this isn't the appropriate configuration for you, then maybe switching to the console on tty2 and creating the MD yourself or providing a kickstart file with the correct %pre script solves the problem. Don't get me wrong, it *could* be a very nice feature to add to the installer, but then again we *must* prevent the installer from being obfuscated for normal users. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 9 support for the XFS file system
> PS = Pete Stieber > PS>> I was using a 1 TB LaCie Big Disk > PS>> (http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10923) > PS>> and the board in the drive died. I took the two hard > PS>> drives that were in the drive (SATA 500 GB each Raid 0 > PS>> using the XFS file system) and got them mounted in a > PS>> Fedora 9 x86_64 box. Now I'm having trouble with the > PS>> drives. > PS>> > PS>> Are XFS utilities like > PS>> > PS>> xfs_check > PS>> xfs_repair > PS>> xfsdump > PS>> > PS>> available on Fedora 9? > PS>> > PS>> I tried looking on the Fedora website, but I couldn't > PS>> figure out how to answer this question myself. Any > PS>> pointers? > > MB = Mike Burger > MB> Yes...Fedora supports SGI's XFS filesystem. > > Thanks for the help Mike. Yeah I know it supports it. I got the drives > working for a while, but now I need to run fsck on them because > something is broken. > > Sorry I wasn't clear, but what package do I have to load to get fsck.xfs > and/or xfs_check, xfs_repair, xfsdump? Sorry...look for xfsprogs. If you built the XFS filesystems at install time, or built them after, the fileset should be installed (mkfs.xfs is part of that package), then you've got the package. -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II BBS telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org To be notified of updates to the web site, visit: https://www.bubbanfriends.org/mailman/listinfo/site-update or send a blank email message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network manager and dns
Paul W. Frields wrote: > > You can either add a line like this to the > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg- file: > > PEERDNS=no > > Or you can use System > Administration > Network, and turn off the > "Automatically obtain DNS information from provider" checkbox for the > appropriate interface. > > Is NetworkManager supposed to pay attention to those things ? Perhaps i don't have all the right pieces but NM ignores anything I've done to any config file - perhaps nm_applet needs to be enhanced to allow routing, dns overrides etc. Also be nice when there are multple AP's on same SSID if it would show them (and MAC's) as well and allow user to choose the AP. Even if network config file editing did work, the applet shud be enhanced. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fc10 and raid-10
On Saturday 27 September 2008 09:32:27 pm Bill Davidsen wrote: > The Fedora installer has insisted on requiring four drives for raid-10 > install, and then not using raid-10, but rather raid-1+0 which is *NOT* the > same thing. Any hope that this could be fixed in fc10, as it is a real PITA > to fight a way around it and get a proper raid configured. > > This is a real performance issue, see linux-raid discussion in archives > about this. > > -- > Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >"We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from > the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot Raid 10 requires at least 4 drives. and then it needs even numbers of disks to grow. so you could do 4,6,8,10,12 etc. an odd disk is should only be used as a hot spare. otherwise it would cause degregation to the array md1 : active raid10 sda2[0] sdd2[3] sdc2[2] sdb2[1] 624623104 blocks 256K chunks 2 near-copies [4/4] [] looks like its right to me. this box was installed F-8 and was yum updated to rawhide.my box with raid 10 is using the raid 10 module. i have 4x320gb drives and get great performance out of the array. hdparm -tT /dev/md1 /dev/md1: Timing cached reads: 4868 MB in 1.99 seconds = 2441.54 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 256 MB in 3.02 seconds = 84.75 MB/sec Dennis -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fc10 and raid-10
Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
> Bill Davidsen wrote:
>> The Fedora installer has insisted on requiring four drives for raid-10
>> install, and then not using raid-10, but rather raid-1+0 which is
>> *NOT* the same thing.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID#Nested_levels
ah, but...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-standard_RAID_levels
See the Linux MD RAID 10 section.
(or man md, if you'd prefer)
It is still (at its most basic) effectively RAID 1+0, but doesn't
require an even number of disks and can do some funky things with layout
and number of (near or far) copies of each chunk.
this is what
mdadm -C /dev/md0 -l 10 -n4 /dev/sd{a,b,c,d}1
would do, for example.
As opposed to manually creating 2 mirrors and striping over them.
Stuart
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Re: thefts and encrypted FS (Re: what dose this do)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim wrote: > Nah, hideously painful, slow acting, poison gas. what? you want to be merciful to someone who steels your laptop? - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI36BJ+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAlk8AJ9wtVZTH8C3yiEmNqvtHbU5AxuAuwCaA8c7 R8B52dRG9UH4/zutFuO8INM= =dpmM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network manager and dns
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 08:37:37AM -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Adel ESSAFI wrote: > > Hi all > > I use network manager to connect to wireless. Every time, this tool > > modifies /etc/resolv.conf. Is there any way to let NM to get only the IP > > adress and to not modify the dns? > > Thanks for help > > regards > > Adel > > > There is a checkbox for this. I don't remember the exact wording - I > think it was something about peerdns. You can either add a line like this to the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg- file: PEERDNS=no Or you can use System > Administration > Network, and turn off the "Automatically obtain DNS information from provider" checkbox for the appropriate interface. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpwjIHiLkSN4.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Migrate back to FC9 ? Easiest way ?
I'm getting a new laptop today and I have to migrate my current Linux install to the new hard drive on it. It has a 64 bit processor. I'm thinking that while I am doing the migration I might just as well install F9 instead of F10 and then migrate the data from my F10 installation to the new F9 installation. How hard is it to move the data from F10 back to an F9 installation ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora Wiki proposal: The Fedoran Way
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 11:47:39AM +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Renich Bon Ciric wrote: >> I have an idea I would like to propose here and see what you guys >> think. I'm thinking starting a wiki called something like "The fedoran >> way" to post how a sys-admin would take care of a network using fedora, >> the right way and not tweaking it... but using what the developers have >> done in our favour, so... could this make it as a fedora project? >> >> ...and, maybe, the wiki could have 3 scenarios, small network, medium >> network and large network. >> >> I know I don't have the knowledge to take it on, by myself... but maybe >> somebody here wants to help... or, just maybe, I can get it started. >> >> I would like some feedback, please. > > Maybe what you are interested in is similar to Community Services > Infrastructure (or CSI). > > Take a look at the work in progress on > http://kanarip.fedorapeople.org/CSI/, and http://fedorahosted.org/csi Or for that matter, the Fedora Documentation Project if you'd like to work on some of the general user help for these sorts of functions: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Join -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpddi5jrfgda.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fwd: Config Network Setting]
Dear All, I just have the problem of "Destination Host Unreachable" from eth1 ( ping to other same network segment internal machine ) as the following setting : [EMAIL PROTECTED] network-scripts]# cat ifcfg-eth0 DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=dhcp ONBOOT=no [EMAIL PROTECTED] network-scripts]# [EMAIL PROTECTED] network-scripts]# cat ifcfg-eth1 DEVICE=eth1 BOOTPROTO=static BROADCAST=192.168.0.255 IPADDR=192.168.0.254 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=192.168.0.0 ONBOOT=yes [EMAIL PROTECTED] network-scripts]# [EMAIL PROTECTED] network-scripts]# cat ../network NETWORKING=yes HOSTNAME=svr1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] network-scripts]# So, what is the problem of the current setting ? BTW, what different between modify ifcfg-eth? and running the tools of "system-config-network" ? Thanks ! Edward. Aldo Foot wrote: >On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 12:08 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Mine is FC8 System... >>So, if I want to modify the config of controller card, then I need to >>edit the following files ? >>/etc/sysconifg/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth? >>/etc/modprobe.conf >> >>And what else other profile also need to be modified ? >> >> >> > > > /etc/modprobe.conf has nothing to do with your network settings. > >First --- look here >http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f8/en_US/ch-networkconfig.html > >Then --- As root launch /usr/sbin/system-config-network and configure your >netcard, which by default is eth0. > >~af > > > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thefts and encrypted FS (Re: what dose this do)
On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 14:25 +, g wrote: > i still think best way is a 'mission impossible' self > destruct with a c4 charge. ;-) Nah, hideously painful, slow acting, poison gas. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.26.3-29.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thefts and encrypted FS (Re: what dose this do)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > Thanks for the tip on adeona. I'll look at it to see what other > tricks I could be using to make tracking easier. it is an interesting and effective way of doing things. yet like any and all possible ways, it does depend on drive not being wiped and an internet connection. i still think best way is a 'mission impossible' self destruct with a c4 charge. ;-) - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Red Hat - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI35Pu+C4Bj9Rkw/wRAn10AJ9EXBHQbFymQc89uZVoxU+yE1QlagCgwtcK pywcvXE0oSo9srLJhs4JmJs= =+gK+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: google-earth problem
Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I hadn't run GoogleEarth in a couple of months, and when I try to run it now, I'm getting this message: [~]# googleearth do_wait: drmWaitVBlank returned -1, IRQs don't seem to be working correctly. Try running with LIBGL_THROTTLE_REFRESH and LIBL_SYNC_REFRESH unset. ^C And its hung on the initial postcard sized window until I ctl-c it. Anybody have a clue? Machine is F8, ATI 9200SE with radeon driver, AMD XP-2800, uptodate as of an hour ago. Not exactly but I had to back down to Googleearth 4.2.0205.5730, built Nov. 13, 2007 on this CentOS-5, AMD XP 2600+ ATI Radeon 9000 box. I removed the broken version using brute force, downloaded ver 4.2 at http://dl.google.com/earth/client/GE4/release_4_2/GoogleEarthLinux.bin and haven't looked back. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network manager and dns
Adel ESSAFI wrote: > Hi all > I use network manager to connect to wireless. Every time, this tool > modifies /etc/resolv.conf. Is there any way to let NM to get only the IP > adress and to not modify the dns? > Thanks for help > regards > Adel > There is a checkbox for this. I don't remember the exact wording - I think it was something about peerdns. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Nvidia 9400gt
On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 00:14 -0700, hemal rathod wrote: > > > > > Hello everyone > I have Nvidia 9400 GT graphics card. I installed fedora 7 and nvidia lastest > drivers from nvidia.com. But it didnt work. > > Can u tell me which fedora version support 9400gt? Or How can i install > 9400gt driver on fedora? > Thanks > > Hi, As far as I know, only the 9500's are currently supported by the beta [1] nVidia binary driver; I assume that support will be added by the next beta release. Never the less, I'd suggest you post a question in nvnews [2] nVidia Linux support forum about it. P.S. Please don't post in HTML. Thanks. - Gilboa [1] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=120052 [2] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: python Q?
On 28Sep2008 07:20, Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Greetings all; | | Recent yumex updates om an F8 system seem to have fouled up one or two things: | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /usr/bin/system-config-display | Traceback (most recent call last): | File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", line 315, in | hardware_state = XF86HardwareState(xconfig) | File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/rhpxl/xhwstate.py", line 175, in | __init__ | self.init_from_xconfig(xconfig) | File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/rhpxl/xhwstate.py", line 261, in | init_from_xconfig | if screen.device: | AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'device' I had this happen on an F9 system with two monitors running off a single NVidia card. I took it to mean that the tool didn't cope with one card, two monitors, and had made a structure for each monitor, and the second structure had not had its card/device field initialised. | Can this be fixed? | If yes, how? No idea, sorry. I gave up on system-config-display, flailed with "X -configure" and an example config I found on the web. What sort of setup are you trying to get going? -- Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ Four lines good, eight lines bad. - the signature farm -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
python Q?
Greetings all; Recent yumex updates om an F8 system seem to have fouled up one or two things: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /usr/bin/system-config-display Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/system-config-display/xconf.py", line 315, in hardware_state = XF86HardwareState(xconfig) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/rhpxl/xhwstate.py", line 175, in __init__ self.init_from_xconfig(xconfig) File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/rhpxl/xhwstate.py", line 261, in init_from_xconfig if screen.device: AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'device' Can this be fixed? If yes, how? Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) America, how can I write a holy litany in your silly mood? -- Allen Ginsberg -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thefts and encrypted FS (Re: what dose this do)
On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 11:06 -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > > Short answer: It'll make it very hard for people with physical access to > > boot your computer and read personal files (possibly containing > > passwords or other sensitive information). > > True, but that will also make it hard for the laptop to call home for > help if it gets stolen. Just something to think about. > > After fretting about this for a while, I decided it was more important > for the laptop to boot than for it to have everything encrypted. I > want my laptop to boot and contact my server so that I can see which > IP address it has popped up at. I'm sure the detectives at my local > police station would be interested too. They don't often get to catch > thieves red-handed like that. Most thefts around here go unsolved. > > I was too disorganized when I installed F9 to break /home out into a > separate filesystem. If I had done that I could have encrypted /home > yet left the root FS intact. Come to think of it, I do have > everything under LVM, so I suppose I could still break out /home and > encrypt the user stuff. > > -wolfgang > -- > Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.full-steam.org/ (ipv6-only) > You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages. > That is an interesting thought. I like the idea of letting my laptop contact my server. However, I wonder how it will work out in a real life situation. How many thieves would be comfortable with using Linux and network manager to connect to a network? Besides, they would still need to have a user account on the laptop. Eventually the thief could succeed, but I doubt whether he/she will go through all the trouble. I think it is wise to encrypt more than just your home partition. Swap-, /etc and /tmp partitions will probably contain some personal information as well. Jeroen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Config file sample for Proftp 1.3.1
Dear All, Is there any smaples as the following ? 1, Allow admin user in any directory ( folder ) to do any thing, BUT need his/her login password. 2, Only Allow user edward stay in a special directory ( eg : edward home folder ) and doing anything in his home folder, BUT need his/her login password. Thanks for your help ! Edward. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora Wiki proposal: The Fedoran Way
Renich Bon Ciric wrote: I have an idea I would like to propose here and see what you guys think. I'm thinking starting a wiki called something like "The fedoran way" to post how a sys-admin would take care of a network using fedora, the right way and not tweaking it... but using what the developers have done in our favour, so... could this make it as a fedora project? ...and, maybe, the wiki could have 3 scenarios, small network, medium network and large network. I know I don't have the knowledge to take it on, by myself... but maybe somebody here wants to help... or, just maybe, I can get it started. I would like some feedback, please. Maybe what you are interested in is similar to Community Services Infrastructure (or CSI). Take a look at the work in progress on http://kanarip.fedorapeople.org/CSI/, and http://fedorahosted.org/csi Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9: No audio on Compaq V5000
"Richard Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, as it turns out the audio chipset was just being funky. I shutdown > the laptop, took out the battery, waiting a few minutes, and then put it > back in, booted up, and viola! lspci showed it as ATI IXP audio. I'm > assuming the audio wasn't working when I installed F9 since no audio > applet was installed in Gnome so I added it and everything appears to be > working properly. I have a Hewlett-Packard Presario V5000 (ES188AV) F.54, as reported by smolt. Never had the speaker part of the audio flake out on me. Now the microphone is another matter. I haven't been able to get either the internal or external mic to work with ekiga yet. (The gain is way too low to be usable.) -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.full-steam.org/ (ipv6-only) You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Proftpd-user] Problem of installation
Dear All, Just tried to install the new version of 1.3.1 ( rpm packages )... But the test result is : C:\>ftp 192.168.0.254 Connected to 192.168.0.254. 220 ProFTPD 1.3.1 Server (ProFTPD) [192.168.0.254] User (192.168.0.254:(none)): manager 331 Password required for manager Password: 530 Login incorrect. Login failed. ftp> /var/log/messages: Sep 28 17:22:49 svr1 xinetd[2154]: START: ftp pid=2160 from=:::192.168.0.88 Sep 28 17:22:49 svr1 proftpd[2160]: warning: handling possibly truncated configuration data at line 40 of '/etc/proftpd.conf' Sep 28 17:22:49 svr1 proftpd[2160]: svr1 (192.168.0.88[192.168.0.88]) - FTP session opened. Sep 28 17:23:47 svr1 xinetd[2154]: EXIT: ftp status=0 pid=2160 duration=58(sec) ~ /etc/proftpd.conf : ServerType inetd DefaultServer on UseReverseDNS off IdentLookups off Port 21 Umask 022 MaxInstances 30 MaxClients 50 User nobody TimeoutIdle 1800 TimeoutStalled 1800 TimeoutNoTransfer 1800 TimeoutLogin 1800 TimesGMT off AllowRetrieveRestart on AllowOverwrite on AllowStoreRestart on ServerIdent On "FTP Server" # Only for user manager : AllowOverwrite on AllowUser manager IgnoreHidden on DenyAll User manager and edward : User edward Group edward HideUser manager AnonRequirePassword yes AllowOverwrite on AllowUser edward IgnoreHidden on DenyAll AllowOverwrite off DenyAll Is any mistake about the config file ? Thanks ! Edward. Devrim G逴D鄇 wrote: >On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 13:11 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >>Mine is FC8 System... >>So, which gcc packages must be installed before proftp 1.3.1 >>( tarball ) >>installed ? >> >> > >Why don't you use Fedora repositories? Just checked, and Fedora 8 has >1.3.1 already. > >Regards, > > > > >- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge >Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes >Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world >http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > > >__ NOD32 3475 (20080926) Information __ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.nod32.com.hk > > > > >___ >ProFTPD Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Unsubscribe problems? >http://www.proftpd.org/list-unsub.html > > >__ NOD32 3475 (20080926) Information __ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.nod32.com.hk > > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thefts and encrypted FS (Re: what dose this do)
g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > are you using http://adeona.cs.washington.edu/index.html ? > or do you have another 'call home' site? I'm using my own desktop system to log the IP and using a periodic wget(1) call from the init scripts, cron, and dhclient to access a non-linked web page on my machine. Thanks for the tip on adeona. I'll look at it to see what other tricks I could be using to make tracking easier. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.full-steam.org/ (ipv6-only) You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Network manager and dns
Hi all I use network manager to connect to wireless. Every time, this tool modifies /etc/resolv.conf. Is there any way to let NM to get only the IP adress and to not modify the dns? Thanks for help regards Adel -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
