Re: Fedora 10 countdown banner

2008-11-09 Thread Paolo Leoni
DarkPark has wrote:

 The mailing list where the message you are replying was posted to is a
 good place. We work in the open. And your bug report should in the end
 get
 to the banner's author, Paolo, who *is* subscribed to the list.
 I see

Due to heavy connection problems, for some day I haven't been able to
read Fedora mailing list, sorry for the wait of this answer.

 I just would like to notice that the number 20 in this
 fedora10-countdown-banner.svg banner isn't aligned with arriving in ...
 days.

I've newly checked the source of countdown banner and the number seems
to be aligned...please note that for a correct visualization of the
banner SVG file, you must use Inkscape.

 There is also not enough space for coming soon text.

 The problem is because in other languages this string is wider?
 can't say for sure :/


The difficult of image translation is to adapt the single words to the
banner context. If you need it, I think you can adapt the banner text
size to your language requirements.



 
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new koji instance: where is the Makefile.common ?

2008-11-09 Thread Frederic Beuserie
Hi,

just set up a new koji instance for our internal buildsystem (until
now, we were using mdvsys/mock/createrepo and some control scripts).

i've noticed the use of a Makefile.common in various documentation
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/UsingKoji,
Building with make targets)


i would like to have a look on that. is there any url available ? i've
looked at fedora-packager on fedorahosted but the file is not there.


another question:

i'm using right now a subversion instance for storing all the packages
stuff (all sources rpms, sources files (specs, ...) and binary rpms).
the layout it the
one used by MDVSYS perl module.

since i've quite a lot of data in this subversion repo, is there any
chance to reuse the old layout with Koji ? is koji capable of working
with various SCM layout ?

thanks.

frederic beuserie

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Re: Trying to figure out some umask issues

2008-11-09 Thread Jesse Keating
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 22:26 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
 (-.root,root,-) is quite

I do believe that sets it to whatever owner permissions the file has on
the filesystem, root owner, root group, whatever group permissions it
has on the filesystem  or something close to that effect.  In other
words, it's forcing ownership, but not permissions.

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Fedora 11 font package changes proposal (renames, splits, etc)

2008-11-09 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Hi,

If you've received this message directly (not via a list) you're
concerned by the font package changes proposed for Fedora 11:
— the changes touch one of your packages or
— the changes touch/need one component you're lead on (comps, packagedb,
rpm…)

Please reply to the fedora fonts list however to keep the discussion in
a single place.

The complete list of proposed changes is published there
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fonts_SIG_Fedora_11_packaging_changes

All is open to discussion, and it's on a wiki page, so don't hesitate to
complete/correct it.

This list is pretty ambitious and requires buy-in by many people to be
executed properly. Not to mention that the Fedora 11 cycle will start
soon. Please do respond to the list, stating:
— your requests and comments (if any)
— if you will change your packages along those lines for Fedora 11
— if you will allow other packagers to change your packages in your
stead
— if you totally object to one part of the proposal, and why

Unless there is strong opposition I will apply those changes to my own
packages (and to vera and liberation if their maintainers are ok with
it). However, to be effective, other packagers must change their
packages too.


▶▶▶ Short proposal summary:

▶ package renames, to fix the naming discrepancies that have crept in
with the repository growth 
(different packagers followed different conventions)

▶ package splits, to offer more flexibility to spin groups and fedora
users

▶ new comps groups, to group related fonts together
(gfs fonts, sil fonts, etc)

▶ reminder of the ongoing fontconfig guidelines change
(still waiting for fontconfig upstream to comment on)

▶ new packaging template and macros
(to put in rpm? some other place?)


▶▶▶ Rationale:

▶ help spins and users

Wanting serif from dejavu, mono from liberation, and sans from tiresias,
without dragging in all the other dejavu/liberation/tiresias fonts is a
valid setup.

▶ help packagers and package reviewers

Inconsistent repository and fuzzy rules mean package reviews drag on
while the kinks are ironed out, which is not fun at all for everyone
involved. Much better to have clear conventions packagers can identify
before hitting review stage.


▶▶▶ Proof of concept:

Dejavu has been used to proof the concepts in rawhide (cf the wiki page)


I hope those proposals will be agreeable to everyone.

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[Fwd: Fedora 11 font package changes proposal (renames, splits, etc)]

2008-11-09 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
[Of course I had to forget a few recipients]

 Message transféré 

Sujet: Fedora 11 font package changes proposal (renames, splits, etc)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 12:09:14 +0100

Hi,

If you've received this message directly (not via a list) you're
concerned by the font package changes proposed for Fedora 11:
— the changes touch one of your packages or
— the changes touch/need one component you're lead on (comps, packagedb,
rpm…)

Please reply to the fedora fonts list however to keep the discussion in
a single place.

The complete list of proposed changes is published there
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fonts_SIG_Fedora_11_packaging_changes

All is open to discussion, and it's on a wiki page, so don't hesitate to
complete/correct it.

This list is pretty ambitious and requires buy-in by many people to be
executed properly. Not to mention that the Fedora 11 cycle will start
soon. Please do respond to the list, stating:
— your requests and comments (if any)
— if you will change your packages along those lines for Fedora 11
— if you will allow other packagers to change your packages in your
stead
— if you totally object to one part of the proposal, and why

Unless there is strong opposition I will apply those changes to my own
packages (and to vera and liberation if their maintainers are ok with
it). However, to be effective, other packagers must change their
packages too.


▶▶▶ Short proposal summary:

▶ package renames, to fix the naming discrepancies that have crept in
with the repository growth 
(different packagers followed different conventions)

▶ package splits, to offer more flexibility to spin groups and fedora
users

▶ new comps groups, to group related fonts together
(gfs fonts, sil fonts, etc)

▶ reminder of the ongoing fontconfig guidelines change
(still waiting for fontconfig upstream to comment on)

▶ new packaging template and macros
(to put in rpm? some other place?)


▶▶▶ Rationale:

▶ help spins and users

Wanting serif from dejavu, mono from liberation, and sans from tiresias,
without dragging in all the other dejavu/liberation/tiresias fonts is a
valid setup.

▶ help packagers and package reviewers

Inconsistent repository and fuzzy rules mean package reviews drag on
while the kinks are ironed out, which is not fun at all for everyone
involved. Much better to have clear conventions packagers can identify
before hitting review stage.


▶▶▶ Proof of concept:

Dejavu has been used to proof the concepts in rawhide (cf the wiki page)


I hope those proposals will be agreeable to everyone.

Regards,

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[Bug 457281] Review Request: unikurd-fonts - A widely used Kurdish font

2008-11-09 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=457281





--- Comment #13 from Fedora Update System [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-11-09 
07:21:08 EDT ---
unikurd-web-font-20020502-1.fc9 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 9.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/unikurd-web-font-20020502-1.fc9

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rpms/unikurd-web-font/F-8 import.log, NONE, 1.1 unikurd-web-font.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2008-11-09 Thread Michal Nowak
Author: mnowak

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/unikurd-web-font/F-8
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv15729/F-8

Modified Files:
.cvsignore sources 
Added Files:
import.log unikurd-web-font.spec 
Log Message:
init



--- NEW FILE import.log ---
unikurd-web-font-20020502-1_el5:F-8:unikurd-web-font-20020502-1.el5.src.rpm:1226232034


--- NEW FILE unikurd-web-font.spec ---
%define fontname  unikurd-web
%define fontdir   %{_datadir}/fonts/%{fontname}
%define archivename   unikurdweb

Name:   %{fontname}-font
Version:20020502
Release:1%{?dist}
Summary:A widely used Kurdish font

Group:  User Interface/X
# FIXME:
# Shouldn't we have SFD (or SFD-like) sources? Upstream is *not*
# responding on this
License:GPLv3
URL:http://www.kurditgroup.org/node/1337
Source0:http://www.kurditgroup.org/download/1337/%{archivename}.zip
BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)

BuildArch:  noarch

%description
A widely used Kurdish font which supports various Arabic scripts like 
(Arabic, Kurdish, Persian) and also Latin.


%prep
%setup -q -c %{archivename}


%build


%install
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT

install -dm 0755 $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{fontdir}
install -pm 0644 Unikuweb.ttf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{fontdir}


%clean
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT


%post
if [ -x %{_bindir}/fc-cache ] ; then
%{_bindir}/fc-cache -f %{fontdir} || :
fi

%postun
if [ $1 -eq 0 -a -x %{_bindir}/fc-cache ] ; then
%{_bindir}/fc-cache -f %{fontdir} || :
fi


%files
%defattr(644,root,root,755)
%doc gpl.txt
%dir %{fontdir}/
%{fontdir}/Unikuweb.ttf


%changelog
* Tue Oct 14 2008 Michal Nowak [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 20020502
- version is now based on date of last issue of the font
- %%defattr(-,root,root,-) - %%defattr(644,root,root,755)

* Mon Oct 13 2008 Michal Nowak [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 1.00-2
- got rid of -web sub-package
- changed name from unikurd-fonts-web to unikurd-web-font
- minor structural changes in SPEC file

* Tue Jul 30 2008 Michal Nowak [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 1.00-1
- initial packaging
- this package should be prepared for another unikurd fonts 
  in sub-packages because on the KurdIT group/unikurd web there
  are plenthora of them, but probably not under suitable licenses



Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/unikurd-web-font/F-8/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- .cvsignore  15 Oct 2008 16:45:08 -  1.1
+++ .cvsignore  9 Nov 2008 12:01:20 -   1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+unikurdweb.zip


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/unikurd-web-font/F-8/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- sources 15 Oct 2008 16:45:08 -  1.1
+++ sources 9 Nov 2008 12:01:20 -   1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+1d0af629e8f4ce4e1722d0cacf2e26b0  unikurdweb.zip

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rpms/unikurd-web-font/F-10 import.log, NONE, 1.1 unikurd-web-font.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2008-11-09 Thread Michal Nowak
Author: mnowak

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/unikurd-web-font/F-10
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv14398/F-10

Modified Files:
.cvsignore sources 
Added Files:
import.log unikurd-web-font.spec 
Log Message:
init



--- NEW FILE import.log ---
unikurd-web-font-20020502-1_el5:F-10:unikurd-web-font-20020502-1.el5.src.rpm:1226231708


--- NEW FILE unikurd-web-font.spec ---
%define fontname  unikurd-web
%define fontdir   %{_datadir}/fonts/%{fontname}
%define archivename   unikurdweb

Name:   %{fontname}-font
Version:20020502
Release:1%{?dist}
Summary:A widely used Kurdish font

Group:  User Interface/X
# FIXME:
# Shouldn't we have SFD (or SFD-like) sources? Upstream is *not*
# responding on this
License:GPLv3
URL:http://www.kurditgroup.org/node/1337
Source0:http://www.kurditgroup.org/download/1337/%{archivename}.zip
BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)

BuildArch:  noarch

%description
A widely used Kurdish font which supports various Arabic scripts like 
(Arabic, Kurdish, Persian) and also Latin.


%prep
%setup -q -c %{archivename}


%build


%install
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT

install -dm 0755 $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{fontdir}
install -pm 0644 Unikuweb.ttf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{fontdir}


%clean
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT


%post
if [ -x %{_bindir}/fc-cache ] ; then
%{_bindir}/fc-cache -f %{fontdir} || :
fi

%postun
if [ $1 -eq 0 -a -x %{_bindir}/fc-cache ] ; then
%{_bindir}/fc-cache -f %{fontdir} || :
fi


%files
%defattr(644,root,root,755)
%doc gpl.txt
%dir %{fontdir}/
%{fontdir}/Unikuweb.ttf


%changelog
* Tue Oct 14 2008 Michal Nowak [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 20020502
- version is now based on date of last issue of the font
- %%defattr(-,root,root,-) - %%defattr(644,root,root,755)

* Mon Oct 13 2008 Michal Nowak [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 1.00-2
- got rid of -web sub-package
- changed name from unikurd-fonts-web to unikurd-web-font
- minor structural changes in SPEC file

* Tue Jul 30 2008 Michal Nowak [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 1.00-1
- initial packaging
- this package should be prepared for another unikurd fonts 
  in sub-packages because on the KurdIT group/unikurd web there
  are plenthora of them, but probably not under suitable licenses



Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/unikurd-web-font/F-10/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- .cvsignore  15 Oct 2008 16:45:08 -  1.1
+++ .cvsignore  9 Nov 2008 11:55:47 -   1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+unikurdweb.zip


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/unikurd-web-font/F-10/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- sources 15 Oct 2008 16:45:08 -  1.1
+++ sources 9 Nov 2008 11:55:47 -   1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+1d0af629e8f4ce4e1722d0cacf2e26b0  unikurdweb.zip

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[Bug 461139] Review Request: Thabit-fonts from Arabeyes.org

2008-11-09 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #25 from Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-11-09 10:24:29 
EDT ---
(In reply to comment #24)
 i have mailed upstream since i am not a direct contributer to olpc . Anyways I
 am still waiting for  a reply

Please do not wait for OLPC to respond. Our packaging standards are higher than
theirs, any any font package that passed Fedora review will just the OLPC
package next time they rebase on a new Fedora version.

Just do the requested fixes, so we can have a clean Fedora package OLPC can be
referred to.

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[Bug 470704] Hinting problems with default Sans font

2008-11-09 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #6 from Kevin Kofler [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-11-09 10:41:05 EDT 
---
You're right, this is the autohinter's fault. If I turn the hinting off
entirely, I get unusably blurry fonts, but the ligatures don't look misplaced.
So freetype is actually the correct component to file this against (though
disabling the ligatures in Pango and Qt 4 might also be a solution, we've done
well for years without them, e.g. Qt 3 never used them).

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[Bug 461139] Review Request: Thabit-fonts from Arabeyes.org

2008-11-09 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #28 from Muayyad Alsadi [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-11-09 11:05:40 
EDT ---
Created an attachment (id=323015)
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font config configuration

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[Bug 461139] Review Request: Thabit-fonts from Arabeyes.org

2008-11-09 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461139





--- Comment #27 from Muayyad Alsadi [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-11-09 11:05:05 
EDT ---
Created an attachment (id=323014)
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spec file for arabeyes-fonts superpackage

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[Bug 468618] A bit over-enthusiastic splitting

2008-11-09 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #4 from Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-11-09 16:22:12 
EDT ---
BTW if the problem is that the current macros used in this package want to take
a single font file as argument, then the subpackaging macro I wrote in dejavu
yesterday could be used instead.

I must admit I was thinking very hard about the un font packages when I wrote
them.

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[Bug 452317] Review Request: heuristica-fonts - Heuristica font

2008-11-09 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452317


Kevin Fenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
 AssignedTo|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Flag||fedora-review?




--- Comment #16 from Kevin Fenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-11-09 16:35:51 EDT 
---
I'll go ahead and review this in the next few days sometime.

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[Bug 368561] ligature-related font rendering bug with 'ff' and 'fi'

2008-11-09 Thread bugzilla
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Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[Bug 468823] Review Request: hanazono-fonts - Japanese Mincho-typeface TrueType font

2008-11-09 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-11-09 16:56:39 
EDT ---
Since nobody bites, I'll take this. First review pass

1. you're packaging a font with a new license. While at first view it seems ok,
you still need spot to approve it and put it on
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal_considerations_for_fonts

2. please follow the font packaging process outlined on 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Font_package_lifecycle
and in particular create a wiki page that describes your font and can be
referenced in release notes

(a wiki page template is available there
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Font_description_template )

3. your fontconfig priority (59) is a little low, our guidelines states CJK
fonts should be in the 65-69 range
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fontconfig_packaging_tips#Simple_priority_lists

Of course Behdad has the last say on this, so if you convince him to ok it I'll
let this pass.

4. your fontconfig rule is a bit more convoluted than what we usually do. It
probably works but please get Behdad to review it (and ok it there).

5. please also alias the font the other way, so fontconfig knows it should use
serif fonts to complete HanaMin
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fontconfig_packaging_tips#Generic_names

6. please send your fontconfig file to hanazano upstream so it's included in
their next release once you're happy with it

7. you can drop the -f argument to fc-cache for releases ≥ Fedora 9

8. please use the defattr suggested by guidelines %defattr(644,root,root,755)

9. it's a little easier to review a package when the fields are in the same
order as in rpmdevtool's  spectemplate-fonts.spec (cosmetic, you can ignore it,
just take it into account for your next font package)

All in all this was a pleasant spec file to review and I'll have no problem
approving it once those little problems are taken care of

→ NEEDINFO in the meanwhile

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[Bug 468823] Review Request: hanazono-fonts - Japanese Mincho-typeface TrueType font

2008-11-09 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #5 from Akira TAGOH [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-11-10 00:12:08 EDT ---
Thank you for taking a review for this package.

(In reply to comment #3)
 1. you're packaging a font with a new license. While at first view it seems 
 ok,
 you still need spot to approve it and put it on
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal_considerations_for_fonts

I've already asked on fedora-legal-list, and just followed him to describe
License tag -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-legal-list/2008-October/msg00022.html

 2. please follow the font packaging process outlined on 
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Font_package_lifecycle
 and in particular create a wiki page that describes your font and can be
 referenced in release notes

Just created: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Hanazono_font

 3. your fontconfig priority (59) is a little low, our guidelines states CJK
 fonts should be in the 65-69 range
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fontconfig_packaging_tips#Simple_priority_lists
 
 4. your fontconfig rule is a bit more convoluted than what we usually do. It
 probably works but please get Behdad to review it (and ok it there).

I'd like to push this font prior to sazanami-mincho.ttf which we defaults for
Serif for Japanese, because the quality is better than it. I'm not sure what's
the right thing to do that for fontconfig config. that would be appreciated if
someone could helps me.

 5. please also alias the font the other way, so fontconfig knows it should use
 serif fonts to complete HanaMin
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fontconfig_packaging_tips#Generic_names

Fixed in the updated package.

 6. please send your fontconfig file to hanazano upstream so it's included in
 their next release once you're happy with it

Sure.

 7. you can drop the -f argument to fc-cache for releases ≥ Fedora 9

Can you update the template page as well to see what's the expected thing
hereafter?

 8. please use the defattr suggested by guidelines %defattr(644,root,root,755)

Sorry, missed one. fixed.

 9. it's a little easier to review a package when the fields are in the same
 order as in rpmdevtool's  spectemplate-fonts.spec (cosmetic, you can ignore 
 it,
 just take it into account for your next font package)

Oh, wasn't aware of that. improved a bit in:

Spec URL: http://tagoh.fedorapeople.org/hanazono-fonts/hanazono-fonts.spec
SRPM URL:
http://tagoh.fedorapeople.org/hanazono-fonts/hanazono-fonts-20081012-2.fc9.src.rpm

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[Bug 368561] ligature-related font rendering bug with 'ff' and 'fi'

2008-11-09 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 468823] Review Request: hanazono-fonts - Japanese Mincho-typeface TrueType font

2008-11-09 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #4 from Mamoru Tasaka [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-11-09 21:39:05 EDT 
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(In reply to comment #3)
 Since nobody bites, I'll take this. First review pass
 
 1. you're packaging a font with a new license. While at first view it seems 
 ok,
 you still need spot to approve it and put it on
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal_considerations_for_fonts

See this
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-legal-list/2008-October/msg00022.html

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Fedora 11 font package changes proposal (renames, splits, etc)

2008-11-09 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Hi,

If you've received this message directly (not via a list) you're
concerned by the font package changes proposed for Fedora 11:
— the changes touch one of your packages or
— the changes touch/need one component you're lead on (comps, packagedb,
rpm…)

Please reply to the fedora fonts list however to keep the discussion in
a single place.

The complete list of proposed changes is published there
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fonts_SIG_Fedora_11_packaging_changes

All is open to discussion, and it's on a wiki page, so don't hesitate to
complete/correct it.

This list is pretty ambitious and requires buy-in by many people to be
executed properly. Not to mention that the Fedora 11 cycle will start
soon. Please do respond to the list, stating:
— your requests and comments (if any)
— if you will change your packages along those lines for Fedora 11
— if you will allow other packagers to change your packages in your
stead
— if you totally object to one part of the proposal, and why

Unless there is strong opposition I will apply those changes to my own
packages (and to vera and liberation if their maintainers are ok with
it). However, to be effective, other packagers must change their
packages too.


▶▶▶ Short proposal summary:

▶ package renames, to fix the naming discrepancies that have crept in
with the repository growth 
(different packagers followed different conventions)

▶ package splits, to offer more flexibility to spin groups and fedora
users

▶ new comps groups, to group related fonts together
(gfs fonts, sil fonts, etc)

▶ reminder of the ongoing fontconfig guidelines change
(still waiting for fontconfig upstream to comment on)

▶ new packaging template and macros
(to put in rpm? some other place?)


▶▶▶ Rationale:

▶ help spins and users

Wanting serif from dejavu, mono from liberation, and sans from tiresias,
without dragging in all the other dejavu/liberation/tiresias fonts is a
valid setup.

▶ help packagers and package reviewers

Inconsistent repository and fuzzy rules mean package reviews drag on
while the kinks are ironed out, which is not fun at all for everyone
involved. Much better to have clear conventions packagers can identify
before hitting review stage.


▶▶▶ Proof of concept:

Dejavu has been used to proof the concepts in rawhide (cf the wiki page)


I hope those proposals will be agreeable to everyone.

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Re: Fedora 11 font package changes proposal (renames, splits, etc)

2008-11-09 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le dimanche 09 novembre 2008 à 16:42 +0200, Muayyad AlSadi a écrit :
 regarding arabeyes-kacst-fonts
 kacst fonts are not from arabeyes they are only hosted there
 the fonts are by www.kacst.edu.sa/default.aspx
 
 rpm -qi kacst-fonts-2.0-1.fc10.noarch
 ...
 from the King Abdulaziz City for Science  Technology(kacst).

I suppose that if kacst lets arabeyes distribute them they are not
unfriendly with each other. Open Font Library likewise only
re-distributes other people work, I guess the prefix in this case would
mainly be there to denote some sort of oflb or arabeyes editorial work

Anyway, duly noted, if more people feel karcst should not be prefixed I
guess we'll make it and exception (but I'd love to have a clear simple
common sense naming rule).

 arabeyes produce two types of fonts: core and decorative and I packed
 them for ojuba, here is the .spec file (attached)

Some (but not all) of those fonts are currently in review:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461139
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462711

You can either work with the current would-be packager (and become
co-maintainer) or submit a competing proposal (some reviews never go
anywhere, unfortunately, don't wait for others to do the stuff you care
about).

The path to get a font in Fedora is documented there:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Font_package_lifecycle

We mostly ask packagers to adhere as closely as possible to the official
spec template, create a wiki page that can be referenced in release
notes, and avoid bundling different fonts in a single package.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Annotated_fonts_spec_template

When there is little deviation from guidelines reviews tend to be quick
(unfortunately the reverse is also true)

 I would love to maintain it for the fedora

New font packagers are always welcome! Your spec is not acceptable
as-is, but if you're motivated I think you'll find creating
guidelines-conformant spec files is not too hard.

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Re: UDF-fs What is it?

2008-11-09 Thread Simon Slater

On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 20:59 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
 David Timms wrote:
  Ed Greshko wrote:
  Michael Cronenworth wrote:
  Ed Greshko wrote:
  3.  Created a DVD in live mode on Vista and v2.5 UDF *not*
  readable on
  RHELv4.
 
  Could not test with F9.
 

  UDF 2.5 is only readable with kernel 2.6.26 and higher. The latest
  kernel update from Fedora 9 should read a UDF 2.5 disc.
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format
 
  Yes, the operative word being should.  :-)
  Are you saying your kernel is higher (on rhel4) ?
 
 No. 
 
 Just making the clarification that even though things should work
 there are times that they don't.  AKA, bugs.  FWIW, the OP hasn't
 indicated what is being run at his end.
 
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how to verify cd

2008-11-09 Thread Henning Larsen
hi.

I downloaded the kde pre 10 is, but it does not boot up all the way.
I get a message about fail in /init initramfs.
I have burned it 2 times, with max speed and lower speed, it fails at
the same place in the boot-process.
How do I check the cd and / or the iso?

Henning

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Re: how to count nfs clients attached to my server?

2008-11-09 Thread Timothy Murphy
Steve Berg wrote:

 /usr/sbin/showmount will give you a list of IP's connected.

I had never heard of this program, so I ran it and got
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How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Dave Feustel
In vim, entering ctl-V u  works. This does not
work for me on the xterm command line (ksh is shell).

Is there a way to enter unicode characters in xterm?


Thanks.

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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Dave Feustel wrote:
 In vim, entering ctl-V u  works. This does not
 work for me on the xterm command line (ksh is shell).
 
 Is there a way to enter unicode characters in xterm?

One way that will work in any shell is:

uc() { /usr/bin/printf \\u$1; };

Then, use e.g.

echo $(uc 2639)

You can export uc from your initialization file.

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Re: how to count nfs clients attached to my server?

2008-11-09 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia

Steve Berg wrote:

Thomas Cameron wrote:

Skunk Worx wrote:
Is there a way, on a server, to discover how many clients are 
currently attached to a NFS file share?


I'd like to be able to see a list of the clients that have my NFS 
share mounted.


It's my understanding /usr/sbin/exportfs gives a list but it is not 
reliable as it depends on clients un-mounting the share properly.


I suppose the nature of NFS makes it impossible to maintain/calculate 
an accurate client list, but I thought I'd ask anyway.


Have a look at /var/lib/nfs/rmtab and other files in /var/lib/nfs/


/usr/sbin/showmount will give you a list of IP's connected.


Hi

It seems that the table shown by showmount it is not updated, because it 
shows clients that are not longer mounting the partition.


Regards

Marcelo

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SOLVED (not verified): how to verify cd

2008-11-09 Thread Henning Larsen
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 14:05 +0300, Waleed Harbi wrote:
 Try this command:
 md5sum FC9.iso
 then compare the results number with FC9 website
 http://fedoraproject.org/en/verify.
 On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Henning Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 hi.
 
 I downloaded the kde pre 10 is, but it does not boot up all
 the way.
 I get a message about fail in /init initramfs.
 I have burned it 2 times, with max speed and lower speed, it
 fails at
 the same place in the boot-process.
 How do I check the cd and / or the iso?
 
 Henning
 
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Thank you.

I'm sorry about this, at least I should have checked the file size, it
was ca 100 megabytes smaller than it should be.

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Re: RealPlayer 11 and Helix Player 11

2008-11-09 Thread Timothy Murphy
Rahul Sundaram wrote:

 Timothy Murphy wrote:
 What exactly is the difference between these two programs?
 
 Helixplayer is the open source project and media player that forms the
 basis of RealPlayer. Realplayer is proprietary and supports a few
 additional codecs.
 
 https://player.helixcommunity.org/

Thanks.
As always you are a fount of useful information.

But I was at the page you cite,
and found it curious that the two programs are offered side-by-side,
without any clear indication (to me) of the difference between them.

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Re: Fedora on Mac Book Pro

2008-11-09 Thread Waleed Harbi
Good guide:
http://nareshv.blogspot.com/2008/09/fedora-9-on-macbook-pro-penryn-intel.html
http://www.mactel-linux.org

On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Luc MAIGNAN [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi,

 I try to install Fedora on an external drive and boot it from a Mac Book
 Pro (REFIT as boot loader).
 I setup Grub on the MBR of the external disk.

 Unfortunaly, when I try to boot, it tries to boot Windoze :-( !!!

 Has anyone experience of such installation ?

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Re: fglrx for F9.x86_64

2008-11-09 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 01:17 -0500, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
 Frank Cox wrote:
  I just use the default xorg.conf that the rpmfusion rpm set up for me.
 
  Maybe that's your problem -- are you using rpmfusion?
 
 No, it was in RPMFusion that I found an x86_64 kmod that actually loaded 
 which caused me to start looking into getting it working again.  I had 
 it working in FC6, but not in F9 up until this point.
 
  Here's my xorg.conf.
 
 I looked, I didn't see much that looked like it would help.
 I changed a bunch of options to no avail.  I started banging my head 
 against the wall.
 
  This is on my F9/x86_64 machine.  The one that I'm typing this on right 
  now, in
  fact.
 
 Oh, I believe you!  I seem to remember having some 3-4 thousand fps 
 under FC6 using the proprietary driver.
 
 I tried removing my xorg.conf and letting X create one for me.  Didn't 
 work.  Then I tried playing with aticonfig.  Nope, didn't work either, 
 and fglrx-config-display doesn't seem to make any modifications to my 
 xorg.conf.  Finally I stumbled upon livna-config-display, and when I ran 
 it, it ran ldd, and I think *that* was the key which got me working 
 again.  googleearth no longer complains about software emulation mode 
 and glxgears is now giving me between 4500 and 5300 fps.  WOW!
 
 SO, THANKS FRANK!  I appreciate the hints and helps that caused me to 
 dig deeper.
 
 I still despair that this stuff has to be so damn complicated, but, such 
 is life.

...Well none of this has worked for me so far. Granted I'm running
rawhide on a ThinkPad T400 and using the ATI drivers from RPMFusion, so
it's beta on top of beta. But the fact is that X loads and is incredibly
slow.

Going back to the stock ATI drivers for now. They don't allow me to run
all of the Compiz eye candy, but at least they're not slow.

If anyone has any better ideas on how to make this all work, I'm open to
hearing about it.

Cheers,

Chris


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Fedora on Mac Book Pro

2008-11-09 Thread Luc MAIGNAN

Hi,

I try to install Fedora on an external drive and boot it from a Mac Book 
Pro (REFIT as boot loader).

I setup Grub on the MBR of the external disk.

Unfortunaly, when I try to boot, it tries to boot Windoze :-( !!!

Has anyone experience of such installation ?

BR

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Re: F9 installation

2008-11-09 Thread Jerry Feldman

On 11/06/2008 01:44 PM, Germán Racca wrote:


Hi all:

I want to install Fedora 9 in a computer that already has Fedora 8,
but in a seprate place, just to have 2 different versions in one computer.
I new that in order to do it, I will have to create or resize a partition.
Well, when I run the installation DVD for Fedora 9 I get the following
screen:

Drive /dev/sda (114471 MB) (Model: ATA SAMSUNG HD120IJ)

sda2
114274 MB


   DEVICEMOUNT POINT/VOLUMETYPESIZE (MB)

LVM Volume Groups
  
VolGroup00   
114272

LogVol00
ext3 113216

LogVol01
swap   1024


Hard Drives
  /dev/sda

/dev/sda1 
ext3196
/dev/sda2  VolGroup00  LVM PV 
114275


I have tried to do a lot of thing but no success. How could I get a space
of approximately 30 GB to install another Linux, in my case Fedora 9?
I think Aldo gave you a decent answer. You are stuck with LVM, but you 
still should be able to set up for a dual boot.
Problem 1 is /dev/sda1 is set up as your /boot partition. You will 
probably need to share this which means some manual editing of 
/boot/grub/grub.conf.
Resizing of an LVM logical partition can be accomplished via the 
system-config-lvm graphical LVM utility. Or you can use the 
nonm-graphical commands, such as resize2fs and lvm.


However possibly a better way might be to use a virtual machine, such as 
virtual box, and install Fedora 9 in virtualbox.


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Re: how to verify cd

2008-11-09 Thread Waleed Harbi
Try this command:
md5sum FC9.iso
then compare the results number with FC9 website
http://fedoraproject.org/en/verify.
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Henning Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi.

 I downloaded the kde pre 10 is, but it does not boot up all the way.
 I get a message about fail in /init initramfs.
 I have burned it 2 times, with max speed and lower speed, it fails at
 the same place in the boot-process.
 How do I check the cd and / or the iso?

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Re: Sudo from scripts

2008-11-09 Thread Jerry Feldman

On 11/08/2008 10:43 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote:

Jerry Feldman wrote:
  

Over the years I have used sudo from some of my scripts (RHEL 3 and
4,  SuSE (5-11), but I found in Fedora 9 (and CentOS 5.2) that sudo
will fail:

sudo: sorry, you must have a tty to run sudo

In this particular case it was run on a CentOS 5.2 system, but I had
the same issue with Fedora 9. In both cases the user account was set
to NOPASSWD. Actually, on my home system it was my nightly backup
script I run from my crontab. 


There are certainly some easy workarounds, such as running these
scripts from root's cron (cron.daily, cron.weekly, ...), or writing
my own sudo command (which I've done before Sudo arrived). 


Is there now a setting where I can run sudo non-interactively, or is
this a new security restriction. 



It is, as mentioned in /etc/sudoers:

#
# Disable ssh hostname sudo cmd, because it will show the password
# in clear.
# You have to run ssh -t hostname sudo cmd.
#
Defaultsrequiretty

I don't know if there's a good way to run things via cron and convince
sudo that you have a tty.  If not, you might just comment out the
requiretty setting.

  

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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Colin Paul Adams wrote:
 I just tried this, and I get presented with a
 
 
 prompt.

Can you clarify?  What shell are you using, and what kind of prompt did
you see??  Did you paste exactly:

uc() { /usr/bin/printf \\u$1; };

as the first line and

echo $(uc 2639)

as the second?  You should see a smiley face (☹) for this example.

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Re: Libraries disappearing from compat-libstdc++-296

2008-11-09 Thread William M. Quarles

Tom Horsley wrote:

I've just started making my own compat rpm with libraries from older
fedora versions packaged up to be installed on the new fedora to allow
my older binaries to run. If it ever reaches the point where that isn't
good enough, I guess I'll have to investigate upgrading after all :-).


Think you could send me some of those? I'm running Fedora 8 right now, 
but I'm about ready to switch to Fedora 9 thanks to all of the 
complications of wireless networking that are fixed in Fedora 9. What 
version of Fedora are you running?


Peace,
William


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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 09 November 2008, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
Colin Paul Adams wrote:
 I just tried this, and I get presented with a


 prompt.

Can you clarify?  What shell are you using, and what kind of prompt did
you see??  Did you paste exactly:

uc() { /usr/bin/printf \\u$1; };

as the first line and

echo $(uc 2639)

as the second?  You should see a smiley face (☹) for this example.

Matt Flaschen

Except that is a 'frownie' as displayed here, and in this email.

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Re: Thunderbird cannot open attachments with accented filenames

2008-11-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 21:36 +, Paul Smith wrote:
 Dear All,
 
 Sometimes, I receive e-mails with attachments whose names contain
 accented characters. When I try to open them, for instance, with
 OpenOffice, I get an error message telling me that the file does not
 exist. The error message indicates a filename with very strange
 characters where the accented characters should be. Then, I have to
 save the file first and then open it. Something similar occurs with
 Firefox, when trying to open files with accented characters in their
 names. Is there some solution for this problem? My e-mail client is
 Thunderbird, and I am running F9.

I'm guessing there might be a conflict between your locale and the MIME
encoding of the filename in TBird. If you save an attachment under its
default name can you then open it without any further editing of the
filename?

poc

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Re: CUPS, Alpine, and printserving

2008-11-09 Thread Beartooth
On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:12:09 +1030, Tim wrote:
[...]
 If desperate, one could go into /etc/cups/ and remove the entries for
 particular printers.  I'm not sure how it handles missing files, but you
 could load the file and remove all the configuration data, leaving just
 the two comment lines at the top of printers.conf.
[...]
Would you believe that's what it shows now? Yet both Firefox and 
Opera insist on showing three.

I tried using Hbsk and Hbsk.localdomain (which is what uname 
shows for this machine) on Opera, but it failed to connect, though I saw 
it try 127.0.0.1


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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Gene Heskett wrote:
 Except that is a 'frownie' as displayed here, and in this email. 

☺

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Re: Libraries disappearing from compat-libstdc++-296

2008-11-09 Thread William M. Quarles

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Tom Horsley wrote:

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:47:57 -0400
Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I agree that no one should be building with those libraries, but in 
fact people do use binaries already using them.



snip

I've just started making my own compat rpm with libraries from older
fedora versions packaged up to be installed on the new fedora to allow
my older binaries to run. If it ever reaches the point where that isn't
good enough, I guess I'll have to investigate upgrading after all :-).


You might think about where to release that for other to find.



WORD! Ditto on that one, that could be really useful to a number of 
people. You might want to see who would be willing to post that for you 
on a site for others to download.


Peace,
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Re: Libraries disappearing from compat-libstdc++-296

2008-11-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 09:35:08 -0500
William M. Quarles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Think you could send me some of those?

I doubt it is generally useful, right now it only has
/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8b in it (which the old version
of NX I'm sticking to needs). I guess they switched to
something other than openssl in the new release, so the
library NX looks for isn't there anymore.

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Re: Libraries disappearing from compat-libstdc++-296

2008-11-09 Thread William M. Quarles

Kevin Kofler wrote:
Upstreams still building their binaries with GCC 2.95 (or 2.96 for that matter) 
should really be told to get with the times. GCC is at 4.3 now, 2.95 is just a 
long gone memory from the distant past.


Sorry for taking so long to reply, for some reason my Gmane.org feed 
wasn't showing the latest replies on this thread.


OK, Windows XP still runs nearly all programs from previous versions 
Windows, plus it has DOS emulation so that it can run many, but not all 
DOS programs. What is SO WRONG with some element of reverse 
compatibility? I know that some of you may feel that there is a hinder 
to progress there, but there has to be some kind of balance between 
bleeding-edge and interoperability with other software.


I'm not talking about a need to build new binaries, I'm just talking 
about getting older software to run on a newer OS. This doesn't just 
include commercial software such as Maple, but also older open-source 
projects that haven't been updated in a while, but could still 
hypothetically work if the proper libraries were provided.


William

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Re: how to count nfs clients attached to my server?

2008-11-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 11:30 +, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Steve Berg wrote:
 
  /usr/sbin/showmount will give you a list of IP's connected.
 
 I had never heard of this program, so I ran it and got
 --
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo showmount -a
 showmount: RPC: Program not registered
 --
 How is one meant to register the program?

It's been years since I knew this stuff but IIRC the unregistered
program is either the nfs daemon (nfsd) or the mount daemon (mountd). In
this context unregistered just means it isn't running. Check
serviceconf.

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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 09:38 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
 Gene Heskett wrote:
  Except that is a 'frownie' as displayed here, and in this email. 
 
 ☺

☹

poc

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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 09:38:48AM -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
 Gene Heskett wrote:
  Except that is a 'frownie' as displayed here, and in this email. 
 
 ☺
 
When I try this on F9 using ksh, I get blank lines.
What font(s) need to be installed?

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Re: Question about X-Fi cards and FC9 (or FC10 upcoming ...)

2008-11-09 Thread Jim Hayward
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 20:44 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:

 
 Don't get the X-Fi.
 
 Long story short: 
 Since the introduction of the X-Fi, Creative refused to release the
 specs of cards, claiming that it will release binary drivers ASAP.

Just in case you missed it, hell has frozen over and Creative finally
appears to have come to their senses. Creative has released a GPL v2
licensed driver and the source code for their X-Fi cards. Hopefully this
will eventually lead to support for the X-Fi cards being added to ALSA.

http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblasterthread.id=132288


Regards,
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Re: SOLVED (not verified): how to verify cd

2008-11-09 Thread g
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Henning Larsen wrote:
 On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 14:05 +0300, Waleed Harbi wrote:
 Try this command:
 md5sum FC9.iso
 then compare the results number with FC9 website
 http://fedoraproject.org/en/verify.

when you do get correct size iso file, use *sha1sum* not md5sum. 2 very
different check sums.

 I'm sorry about this, at least I should have checked the file size, it
 was ca 100 megabytes smaller than it should be.

a little shy. ;o)

even with size being correct, do run sha1sum or md5sum, if either supplied,
to insure any file you download.

then you will be sure of both size and a good download.

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Re: Thunderbird cannot open attachments with accented filenames

2008-11-09 Thread Paul Smith
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sometimes, I receive e-mails with attachments whose names contain
 accented characters. When I try to open them, for instance, with
 OpenOffice, I get an error message telling me that the file does not
 exist. The error message indicates a filename with very strange
 characters where the accented characters should be. Then, I have to
 save the file first and then open it. Something similar occurs with
 Firefox, when trying to open files with accented characters in their
 names. Is there some solution for this problem? My e-mail client is
 Thunderbird, and I am running F9.

 I'm guessing there might be a conflict between your locale and the MIME
 encoding of the filename in TBird. If you save an attachment under its
 default name can you then open it without any further editing of the
 filename?

Yes, I can Patrick, if I save an attachment under its default name I
can then open it without any further editing of the filename.

Paul

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Re: Question about X-Fi cards and FC9 (or FC10 upcoming ...)

2008-11-09 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 07:01 -0800, Jim Hayward wrote:
 On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 20:44 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
 
  
  Don't get the X-Fi.
  
  Long story short: 
  Since the introduction of the X-Fi, Creative refused to release the
  specs of cards, claiming that it will release binary drivers ASAP.
 
 Just in case you missed it, hell has frozen over and Creative finally
 appears to have come to their senses. Creative has released a GPL v2
 licensed driver and the source code for their X-Fi cards. Hopefully this
 will eventually lead to support for the X-Fi cards being added to ALSA.
 
 http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblasterthread.id=132288
 
 
 Regards,
   Jim H
 

... They must have heard my rant :)

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Re: Hang coming out of suspend

2008-11-09 Thread Geoffrey Leach


On 11/07/2008 02:00:41 PM, Steve wrote:
 
  Geoffrey Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  ASUS Z84F. When I suspend (with appropriate quirks) under 
  kernel-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686, half of the time the system hangs on 
  coming out of the suspend, requiring reboot. Things appear to start
 out 
  well, then, before the display and keyboard are enabled, the system 
  hangs. Earlier 2.6.26 kernels and kernel-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 
 (now
 in 
  use) work fine. Neither /var/log/messages nor dmesg show anything 
  wrong.
  
  Fedora 9 is up-to-date.
  
  Before I submit to Bugzilla, (a) is anyone having a similar problem
 and 
  (b) any suggestions for data gathering?
 
 
 Yes, I'm having the same issues. See my recent message on gdm error
 messages.

Steve:

Thanks for the reply. I checked out your previous posting (at 
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general/318262/
match=gdm)

and discovered:

gconfd (gdm-3110): Error setting value for `/apps/gnome-screensaver/
power_management_delay': Can't overwrite existing read-only value: 
Value for `/apps/gnome-screensaver/power_management_delay' set in a 
read-only source at the front of your configuration path

is in my /var/log/messages on dates that correspond with my use of 
kernel-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686.

I notice that you are running Fedora 8. Which kernel? And which 
computer are you using?




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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Dan Thurman

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 09:38 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
 Gene Heskett wrote:
  Except that is a 'frownie' as displayed here, and in this email.

 ☺

☹

poc


Maybe off topic?

How about the other way around?  What if you want to,
say translate unicode characters to english?  I have
song files that have unicode characters and some for
which I have no idea what it is supposed to represent.

For example, some song files have this image of a box
with binary numbers in them, supposedly a unicode
character, and I thought of simply deleting them, but
I'd like to know what they really are and if they can
be translated into english?

Thanks!
Dan

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chkfontpath ?

2008-11-09 Thread Dave Feustel
I want to add a collection of unicode fonts to my fontserver.  I have
downloaded the fonts and unpacked them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype. I
have created the files fonts.scale and fonts.dir. Now I want to run the
command chkfontpath -add /usr/share/fonts/truetype, but there is no
command chkfontpath on my system (F9).

Is there another way to add these fonts?

Thanks.

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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Alan Cox
 For example, there is umlaut - and that could be transliterated into
 `u' for example.  Others may have strange looking unicode and I have

That depends on the language. Unicode is just character encoding rules.
You need more context to do transliterations. Not that you should need to
as you can just install the relevant fonts. DejaVu has pretty good
European coverage for example and is one of the standard installed fonts
in current Fedora.

You also have to watch the encodings. Its not uncommon to find mis-coded
information in OGG and similar files where the track data is mis-encoded
in one of the legacy ISO-8859 code pages not UTF-8 and that produces
invalid utf-8 sequences so will be displayed as the symbol for an invalid
character.

 no idea what it is supposed to me - so I cannot transliterate w/o knowing
 what it is in the first place - so how do I find out?  The unlaut is 
 sometimes
 obvious - but others are not.  So is there a way to show this?  As I said,

Load the right fonts and they will be rendered correctly.

 I get binary icons so how do I get the unicode decimal representation so
 that I can match against the unicode character table to see what it is?

The 'four squares' shown for an unknown symbol should each contain a
hex digit which together give you the symbol code which you can look up
on the unicode web site.

 Would it be: print \\%d, $1 ?

It's UTF-8 so a variable length encoding of the full unicode symbol
space. See www.unicode.org if you want to the full details but basically
each symbol is encoded as a series of bytes such that C special symbol \0
is never found mid-character and so that the ASCII range of symbols for
American English is mapped 1:1 with UTF-8.

Alan

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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Dan Thurman

Alan Cox wrote:


 For example, there is umlaut - and that could be transliterated into
 `u' for example.  Others may have strange looking unicode and I have

That depends on the language. Unicode is just character encoding rules.
You need more context to do transliterations. Not that you should need to
as you can just install the relevant fonts. DejaVu has pretty good
European coverage for example and is one of the standard installed fonts
in current Fedora.

You also have to watch the encodings. Its not uncommon to find mis-coded
information in OGG and similar files where the track data is mis-encoded
in one of the legacy ISO-8859 code pages not UTF-8 and that produces
invalid utf-8 sequences so will be displayed as the symbol for an invalid
character.

 no idea what it is supposed to me - so I cannot transliterate w/o 
knowing

 what it is in the first place - so how do I find out?  The unlaut is
 sometimes
 obvious - but others are not.  So is there a way to show this?  As I 
said,


Load the right fonts and they will be rendered correctly.

 I get binary icons so how do I get the unicode decimal 
representation so

 that I can match against the unicode character table to see what it is?

The 'four squares' shown for an unknown symbol should each contain a
hex digit which together give you the symbol code which you can look up
on the unicode web site.

 Would it be: print \\%d, $1 ?

It's UTF-8 so a variable length encoding of the full unicode symbol
space. See www.unicode.org if you want to the full details but basically
each symbol is encoded as a series of bytes such that C special symbol \0
is never found mid-character and so that the ASCII range of symbols for
American English is mapped 1:1 with UTF-8.

Alan


Thanks for the tip!  I will review the link you gave me (already started!)

Dan

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knotes on KDE not start automatically

2008-11-09 Thread Ambrogio De Lorenzo
Hi all,

I used knotes on fedora 8 (kde 3.x) and everytime I started the desktop,
knotes started, with all my notes on the desk.

Now I installed fedora 9 and KDE 4.1
I copied all my notes on the new system, and started knotes.
Everything was ok, but knotes doesn't start at DKE start.
Other applications starts (pidgin and Kgpg for example).

Someone known how to make knotes startable at KDE start?
I think there is a way (like autostart), but I would like to know if it
is the only way to obtain knotes started.

Tnx
 Ambrogio

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Re: Thunderbird cannot open attachments with accented filenames

2008-11-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 15:31 +, Paul Smith wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sometimes, I receive e-mails with attachments whose names contain
  accented characters. When I try to open them, for instance, with
  OpenOffice, I get an error message telling me that the file does not
  exist. The error message indicates a filename with very strange
  characters where the accented characters should be. Then, I have to
  save the file first and then open it. Something similar occurs with
  Firefox, when trying to open files with accented characters in their
  names. Is there some solution for this problem? My e-mail client is
  Thunderbird, and I am running F9.
 
  I'm guessing there might be a conflict between your locale and the MIME
  encoding of the filename in TBird. If you save an attachment under its
  default name can you then open it without any further editing of the
  filename?
 
 Yes, I can Patrick, if I save an attachment under its default name I
 can then open it without any further editing of the filename.

In that case I'm non-plussed. When you click on an attachment in TBird,
my asumption is that it would be saved as a file in /tmp and OO would
then be opened with that name. Perhaps if you post the name OO is trying
to open, copied from the error dialog, someone might be able to decipher
what's going on. Plus the proper filename of course.

poc

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Re: how to count nfs clients attached to my server?

2008-11-09 Thread Timothy Murphy
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

  /usr/sbin/showmount will give you a list of IP's connected.
 
 I had never heard of this program, so I ran it and got
 --
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo showmount -a
 showmount: RPC: Program not registered
 --
 How is one meant to register the program?
 
 It's been years since I knew this stuff but IIRC the unregistered
 program is either the nfs daemon (nfsd) or the mount daemon (mountd). In
 this context unregistered just means it isn't running. Check
 serviceconf.

Thanks.
I misunderstood the purpose of the program.
I see now that one has to run it on a machine running nfsd.

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exclude option for rsync

2008-11-09 Thread L
Hi,
I use rsync to sync a mirror site. I wnat to exclude files that were created
more than 10 days ago. I have  a long list of excludes in a file. But I want
a dynamic option.

what is the option for this in rsync ?

best
Y
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Re: chkfontpath ?

2008-11-09 Thread John Thompson

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Dave Feustel wrote:

| I want to add a collection of unicode fonts to my fontserver.  I have
| downloaded the fonts and unpacked them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype. I
| have created the files fonts.scale and fonts.dir. Now I want to run the
| command chkfontpath -add /usr/share/fonts/truetype, but there is no
| command chkfontpath on my system (F9).
|
| Is there another way to add these fonts?

You can build a Fedora9 package using the RHEL4 source RPM:
ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/enterprise/4/en/os/i386/SRPMS/chkfontpath-1.10.0-2.src.rpm

Just rpmbuild --rebuild chkfontpath-1.10.0-2.src.rpm then install the
binary RPM.

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Re: Hang coming out of suspend

2008-11-09 Thread Steve
Hi Geoffrey,

 Geoffrey Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 
 On 11/07/2008 02:00:41 PM, Steve wrote:
  
   Geoffrey Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
   ASUS Z84F. When I suspend (with appropriate quirks) under 
   kernel-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686, half of the time the system hangs on 
   coming out of the suspend, requiring reboot. Things appear to start
  out 
   well, then, before the display and keyboard are enabled, the system 
   hangs. Earlier 2.6.26 kernels and kernel-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 
  (now
  in 
   use) work fine. Neither /var/log/messages nor dmesg show anything 
   wrong.
   
   Fedora 9 is up-to-date.
   
   Before I submit to Bugzilla, (a) is anyone having a similar problem
  and 
   (b) any suggestions for data gathering?
  
  
  Yes, I'm having the same issues. See my recent message on gdm error
  messages.
 
 Steve:
 
 Thanks for the reply. I checked out your previous posting (at 
 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general/318262/
 match=gdm)
 
 and discovered:
 
 gconfd (gdm-3110): Error setting value for `/apps/gnome-screensaver/
 power_management_delay': Can't overwrite existing read-only value: 
 Value for `/apps/gnome-screensaver/power_management_delay' set in a 
 read-only source at the front of your configuration path
 
 is in my /var/log/messages on dates that correspond with my use of 
 kernel-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686.
 
 I notice that you are running Fedora 8. Which kernel? And which 
 computer are you using?

# uname -a
Linux steve.blackwell 2.6.26.5-28.fc8 #1 SMP Sat Sep 20 09:32:58 EDT 2008 i686 
i686 i386 GNU/Linux

# cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model name
model name  : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz
model name  : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz

HTH
Steve 

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Re: chkfontpath ?

2008-11-09 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 04:57:01PM -0600, John Thompson wrote:
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 Dave Feustel wrote:

 | I want to add a collection of unicode fonts to my fontserver.  I have
 | downloaded the fonts and unpacked them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype. I
 | have created the files fonts.scale and fonts.dir. Now I want to run the
 | command chkfontpath -add /usr/share/fonts/truetype, but there is no
 | command chkfontpath on my system (F9).
 |
 | Is there another way to add these fonts?

 You can build a Fedora9 package using the RHEL4 source RPM:
 ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/redhat/enterprise/4/en/os/i386/SRPMS/chkfontpath-1.10.0-2.src.rpm

 Just rpmbuild --rebuild chkfontpath-1.10.0-2.src.rpm then install the
 binary RPM.

OK. Got the package. Copied into root dir and executed the rpmbuild command.
which chkfontpath then does not find the program.
How do I install the binary RPM?

Thanks.

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Re: Install from LiveCD/or official DVD ?

2008-11-09 Thread g
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David Hláčik wrote:

 Should i use LiveCD or DVD (from ISO).

terse:
live cd;
 good= gives you chance to see if distrib will recognize your hardware
  bad= long time to install rest of packages you desire.

dvd;
 good= install has most all packages
  bad= takes longer to find out what is not going to work.

 even= configuration time.

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Install from LiveCD/or official DVD ?

2008-11-09 Thread David Hláčik
Hello guys,

what is Fedora prefered way of install on Desktop (notebook).

Should i use LiveCD or DVD (from ISO).

Thanks!

D.

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Re: F9 installation

2008-11-09 Thread ksh shrm
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 11/06/2008 01:44 PM, Germán Racca wrote:


 Hi all:

 I want to install Fedora 9 in a computer that already has Fedora 8,
 but in a seprate place, just to have 2 different versions in one computer.
 I new that in order to do it, I will have to create or resize a partition.
 Well, when I run the installation DVD for Fedora 9 I get the following
 screen:

 Drive /dev/sda (114471 MB) (Model: ATA SAMSUNG HD120IJ)
 
 sda2
 114274 MB
 

   DEVICEMOUNT POINT/VOLUMETYPESIZE (MB)

 LVM Volume Groups
  VolGroup00
 114272
LogVol00
  ext3 113216
LogVol01
  swap   1024

 Hard Drives
  /dev/sda
/dev/sda1
 ext3196
/dev/sda2  VolGroup00  LVM PV
 114275

 I have tried to do a lot of thing but no success. How could I get a space
 of approximately 30 GB to install another Linux, in my case Fedora 9?

 I think Aldo gave you a decent answer. You are stuck with LVM, but you
 still should be able to set up for a dual boot.
 Problem 1 is /dev/sda1 is set up as your /boot partition. You will probably
 need to share this which means some manual editing of /boot/grub/grub.conf.
 Resizing of an LVM logical partition can be accomplished via the
 system-config-lvm graphical LVM utility. Or you can use the nonm-graphical
 commands, such as resize2fs and lvm.

 However possibly a better way might be to use a virtual machine, such as
 virtual box, and install Fedora 9 in virtualbox.

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Re: Question about X-Fi cards and FC9 (or FC10 upcoming ...)

2008-11-09 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 09 November 2008 17:10, Gilboa Davara wrote:
 On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 07:01 -0800, Jim Hayward wrote:
  On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 20:44 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
   Don't get the X-Fi.
  
   Long story short:
   Since the introduction of the X-Fi, Creative refused to release the
   specs of cards, claiming that it will release binary drivers ASAP.
 
  Just in case you missed it, hell has frozen over and Creative finally
  appears to have come to their senses. Creative has released a GPL v2
  licensed driver and the source code for their X-Fi cards. Hopefully this
  will eventually lead to support for the X-Fi cards being added to ALSA.
 
  http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblast
 erthread.id=132288
 
 
  Regards,
   Jim H

 ... They must have heard my rant :)

 - Gilboa

Takashi Iwai, alsa developer, has been working on the driver for X-Fi cards 
for well over 2 weeks now, and with much success in getting these cards 
working. He doesn't have the X-Fi cards, but has been working with folks that 
do have them, and have been acting as testers for various patches that 
Takashi has suggested as trials for resolving problems with the card. All in 
all there has been much success in getting the X-Fi cards to work.

The thread on the alsa development list started on 2008-10-11 (probably before 
that). See link below to access the alsa development archives.

  http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel

You have to wonder if Creative folks have been viewing the posts to the 
alsa-devel list, and because of what they've seen there, have decided to 
release the driver, along with the source code.

Just some observations.

Nigel.


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Re: chkfontpath ?

2008-11-09 Thread John Thompson

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Dave Feustel wrote:

| Just rpmbuild --rebuild chkfontpath-1.10.0-2.src.rpm then install the
| binary RPM.
|
| OK. Got the package. Copied into root dir and executed the rpmbuild
command.
| which chkfontpath then does not find the program.
| How do I install the binary RPM?

The binary RPMs are placed in /usr/src/redhat[arch]/, where [arch]
represents the target architecture -- e.g. i386, x86_64, etc.

To install use rpm -Uvh
/usr/src/redhat[arch]/chkfontpath-1.10.0-2.[arch].rpm

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Re: fedora-fonts-list R.I.P?

2008-11-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Dave Feustel wrote:




This error message was generated by Konqueror 4.1.2. When I used firefox
to access the same page, it worked. I then joined the list. A
confirmation url was sent to me via email. When I tried to access it via
Konqueror, it failed with invalid url. Then I tried Firefox and it
worked. This is typical of the errors that I have been experiencing with
Konqueror lately.


Would be useful to get some bug reports on this.

Rahul

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Fedora Classroom

2008-11-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Hi

There was a number of IRC sessions on various topics related to Free
software and Fedora.  The IRC logs have now been published. Feel free to
use them if you did not find the time to participation in real time.

This is planned to continue for the next month as well.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom

 * SELinux Basics
 * Firewall Basics
 * An introduction to Bugzilla
 * Beginner's guide to getting involved
 * Package Taxonomy and Techniques
 * Creating a Fedora Remix
 * Configuration Management using Puppet

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Re: fedora-fonts-list R.I.P?

2008-11-09 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 04:12:24PM -0500, Dave Feustel wrote:
 https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list is a damn hard
 list to join:
 
 Invalid URL
  The requested URL
 https:/www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list, is invalid.
  Reference #9.6a5d740.1226264404.0
 
 What's the deal?
 
 Thanks.
 
This error message was generated by Konqueror 4.1.2. When I used firefox
to access the same page, it worked. I then joined the list. A
confirmation url was sent to me via email. When I tried to access it via
Konqueror, it failed with invalid url. Then I tried Firefox and it
worked. This is typical of the errors that I have been experiencing with
Konqueror lately.

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Re: tar question

2008-11-09 Thread chloe K
Thank you 
  it works
   
  how about untar
   
  tar cvf file.tar -T selectfile.txt
   
  inside the selectfile.txt
   
  eg:
   
  /var/www/html/version3/abc.html
  /var/www/html/version3/image/abc.jpg
  /var/www/html/version3/cgi-bin/abc.cgi
   
   
  how can I untar it
   
  as all inside in /var/www/html instead of /var/www/html/version3
   
  Thank you again
   
   
  

Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  chloe K wrote:
 Hi
 I have number of selected files to backup and it is also in different
 folders
 How can I make it easy?
 
 eg:
 tar zcvf select-file.tar.gz from selected file or tar zcvf
 select-file.tar.gz (from selected files in file.txt)?
 
 Thank you for your help
 
Check out the -T or --files-from= option.
Something like: (Double check the syntax!)

tar zcv -T file.txt -f elect-file.tar.gz

You will probable find the tar info file more helpful then the tar
man page.

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where to get cisco vpn client for Fedora 9

2008-11-09 Thread Kevin Kempter
Hi All;

anyone know where I can get a copy of the cisco vpn client for Fedora9 ?

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Re: chkfontpath ?

2008-11-09 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 05:33:13PM -0600, John Thompson wrote:
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 Dave Feustel wrote:

 | Just rpmbuild --rebuild chkfontpath-1.10.0-2.src.rpm then install the
 | binary RPM.
 |
 | OK. Got the package. Copied into root dir and executed the rpmbuild
 command.
 | which chkfontpath then does not find the program.
 | How do I install the binary RPM?

 The binary RPMs are placed in /usr/src/redhat[arch]/, where [arch]
 represents the target architecture -- e.g. i386, x86_64, etc.

 To install use rpm -Uvh
 /usr/src/redhat[arch]/chkfontpath-1.10.0-2.[arch].rpm

Worked!  I had to correct the path and then install xfs first.

Thanks!

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Re: chkfontpath ?

2008-11-09 Thread Simon Slater

On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 08:28 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 Dave Feustel wrote:
  I want to add a collection of unicode fonts to my fontserver.  I
 have
  downloaded the fonts and unpacked them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype.
 I
  have created the files fonts.scale and fonts.dir. Now I want to run
 the
  command chkfontpath -add /usr/share/fonts/truetype, but there is no
  command chkfontpath on my system (F9).
  
  Is there another way to add these fonts?
 
 You don't need it anymore and it is mentioned in the release notes as
 well.
 
 http://hoegsberg.blogspot.com/2007/06/death-to-xfs.html
 
 
Where's the best place to start looking / learning about fonts in
Fedora?  I need to get more for use in OOo, GIMP, Inkscape and Scribus.

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Re: [kde-linux] Set default view for Dolphin File manager

2008-11-09 Thread Anoop
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Kevin Kempter [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi All;


 I'm running Fedora9  KDE 4.2

 How can I set the default view for Dolphin to 'Details'  instead of
 the 'Icons' view ?

Dolphin can remember settings for each folder. It can also be set in a mode
where it sets common properties for all folders. You can choose the later
option, and then set view properties of a folder to 'details' from toolbar.
Close dolphin and next time when you open it, it will open in 'details'
mode.
I guess this is what you are looking for.

Thanks,
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Re: chkfontpath ?

2008-11-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Simon Slater wrote:
\

Where's the best place to start looking / learning about fonts in
Fedora?  I need to get more for use in OOo, GIMP, Inkscape and Scribus.


IIRC, all these apps just use fontconfig. So the method is documented in 
the release notes. Quoting


---

Adding new fonts to the fontconfig font subsystem is more 
straightforward; the new font file only needs to be copied into the 
/usr/share/fonts/ directory (individual users can modify their personal 
font configuration by copying the font file into the ~/.fonts/  directory).


After the new font has been copied, use fc-cache to update the font 
information cache:


fc-cache directory

(Where directory would be either the /usr/share/fonts/ or ~/.fonts/ 
directories.)


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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Colin Paul Adams wrote:

 I just tried this, and I get presented with a
 

 
 prompt.
I am using the bash shell, and I get:

$ echo $(uc 2639)
bash: uc: command not found


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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Colin Paul Adams
 Matthew == Matthew Flaschen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Matthew Colin Paul Adams wrote:
 I just tried this, and I get presented with a
 
 
 prompt.

Matthew Can you clarify?  What shell are you using, and what kind
Matthew of prompt did you see??  Did you paste exactly:

Matthew uc() { /usr/bin/printf \\u$1; };

Matthew as the first line and

Matthew echo $(uc 2639)

Matthew as the second?  You should see a smiley face (☹) for this
Matthew example.

I made a few mistakes. Works now. Thanks.
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Re: Looking for a docbook example.

2008-11-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 21:38 -0500, Steven W. Orr wrote:
 Is there such a thing as a nontrivial book that is available for free 
 online that also has the docbook src available? I'd like to learn docbook 
 and I think having an available example would be a good starting point.

AFAIK the Fedora documentation source is in Docbook format. I don't know
if that's sufficiently non-trivial.

 Also, I'm not clear on what the advantage of using docbook is over just 
 using LaTeX.

Depends on your needs. There's a good deal of overlap, in that they are
both oriented to marking up documents according to high-level elements
(paragraphs, lists, headers, figures etc.) and leaving the final
appearance to a compiler. LaTeX (and TeX) are focussed on high-quality
printing. Docbook is an SGML style that allows variant versions of
documents for different output media (e.g. printed versus Web page).
Both are cross-platform. IMHO in Linux LaTeX is more mature and probably
better supported by editing tools, while SGML editing can still be a bit
painful. Of course you can also generate LaTeX output from a Docbook
source file.

poc

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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
oops. didnt paste the first line.

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Re: chkfontpath ?

2008-11-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Dave Feustel wrote:

I want to add a collection of unicode fonts to my fontserver.  I have
downloaded the fonts and unpacked them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype. I
have created the files fonts.scale and fonts.dir. Now I want to run the
command chkfontpath -add /usr/share/fonts/truetype, but there is no
command chkfontpath on my system (F9).

Is there another way to add these fonts?


You don't need it anymore and it is mentioned in the release notes as well.

http://hoegsberg.blogspot.com/2007/06/death-to-xfs.html


Rahul

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Re: exclude option for rsync

2008-11-09 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 10Nov2008 00:21, Ryan Sawhill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  One little known feature of rsync is the fact that when run over a
|  remote shell (such as rsh or ssh) you can give any shell command as
|  the remote file list. The shell command is expanded by your remote
|  shell before rsync is called. [...]
| 
| Little-known indeed--I didn't know rsync could do that.. that's really cool.

I have mixed feelings about this coolness myself, having tripped over it
several times. It means that if you're trying to name
files-with-spaces-or-other-weirdness precisely you need to quote twice, once
locally as with any shell command, and then again for the remote shell. It's
doable, and even automatable (provided you trust there's a Bourne/POSIX shell
at the far end, otherwise of course the far end quote syntax will be
different...)

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Set default view for Dolphin File manager

2008-11-09 Thread Kevin Kempter
Hi All;


I'm running Fedora9  KDE 4.2

How can I set the default view for Dolphin to 'Details'  instead of 
the 'Icons' view ?


Thanks in advance

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fedora-fonts-list R.I.P?

2008-11-09 Thread Dave Feustel
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list is a damn hard
list to join:

Invalid URL
 The requested URL
https:/www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list, is invalid.
 Reference #9.6a5d740.1226264404.0

What's the deal?

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Re: Install from LiveCD/or official DVD ?

2008-11-09 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 21:26 +0100, David Hláčik wrote:
 what is Fedora prefered way of install on Desktop (notebook).

What is preferred is whatever the person doing it prefers.

 Should i use LiveCD or DVD (from ISO).
 
Whichever you want to.  I used the DVD version.  Here's some reasons for
either:

The DVD gives you a disc that you can do a very full installation from,
the live CD is a smaller disc, so will come with less to install from
the disc.

The DVD is a larger initial download, but both will require updates to
be run, post installation.  You'd be downloading more updates for a
bigger initial installation, than a smaller one.  You may as well
download a smaller install set, and update less, then do installations
of extra stuff from the net, with the newest versions, rather than
install and update the same software.  You'll be downloading those
extras just once, not twice, that way.

The DVD can be faster to install from, simply due to data transfer rate
from the medium.  It might spin slower, but more data comes off it
during the spin than a CD.

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Re: exclude option for rsync

2008-11-09 Thread L
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Cameron Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 10Nov2008 09:56, L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 | I use rsync to sync a mirror site. I wnat to exclude files that were
 created
 | more than 10 days ago. I have  a long list of excludes in a file. But I
 want
 | a dynamic option.
 | what is the option for this in rsync ?

 As far as I'm aware there isn't one. The include/exclude stuff is
 entirely pathname based. I have in the past done a recursive _listing_
 of a mirror site, chosen files out of that, and constructed an
 include/exclude file on that basis. This was automated with a script.

 In my case the example was a GNU archive with multiple versions of
 packages; I wished only to mirror the latest package.

 If you can construct (via, perhaps, rsync -n and some postprocessing)
 a list of the remote files that you want, or do not want, it is a pretty
 easy task to convert that into an include/exclude list automatically. Then
 you just use that in a wrapper script for calling rsync.

 Cheers,
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at the bottom of rsync example page @
http://www.samba.org/rsync/examples.html

it says

Fancy footwork with remote file lists


One little known feature of rsync is the fact that when run over a
remote shell (such as rsh or ssh) you can give any shell command as
the remote file list. The shell command is expanded by your remote
shell before rsync is called. For example, see if you can work out
what this does:

rsync -avR remote:'`find /home -name *.[ch]`' /tmp/

note that that is backquotes enclosed by quotes (some browsers don't
show that correctly).


not sure how to make this work.

Y




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Re: how to count nfs clients attached to my server?

2008-11-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 21:16 +, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 
   /usr/sbin/showmount will give you a list of IP's connected.
  
  I had never heard of this program, so I ran it and got
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  showmount: RPC: Program not registered
  --
  How is one meant to register the program?
  
  It's been years since I knew this stuff but IIRC the unregistered
  program is either the nfs daemon (nfsd) or the mount daemon (mountd). In
  this context unregistered just means it isn't running. Check
  serviceconf.
 
 Thanks.
 I misunderstood the purpose of the program.
 I see now that one has to run it on a machine running nfsd.

Not so. You can run it from anywhere, but you have to say which server
you're interested in. From the man page:  showmount  queries the mount
daemon on a remote host for information about the state of the NFS
server on that machine.

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Firefox croaks trying to launch evince

2008-11-09 Thread Sam Varshavchik
For some reasons Firefox can't open .pdf files by default on one of my 
machines.


On the first machine, after clicking on a PDF file, Firefox pops up the 
usual What should Firefox do with this file? dialog, with Open with: 
Document Viewer (default) setting. Clicking OK downloads the PDF file, then 
opens it inside Firefox's window.


On another machine, after doing the same thing, Firefox downloads the PDF 
file, the croaks with this error dialog:


/tmp/filename could not be opened, because the associated helper 
application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences.


I can manually open /tmp, and launch the PDF file, which opens in evince 
normally. Both firefoxes have the same PDF document setting in 
Preferences/Applications, and both machines have identical /etc/mozpluggerrc




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Re: exclude option for rsync

2008-11-09 Thread Ryan Sawhill

 One little known feature of rsync is the fact that when run over a
 remote shell (such as rsh or ssh) you can give any shell command as
 the remote file list. The shell command is expanded by your remote

 shell before rsync is called. For example, see if you can work out
 what this does:

   rsync -avR remote:'`find /home -name *.[ch]`' /tmp/

 note that that is backquotes enclosed by quotes (some browsers don't
 show that correctly).

 not sure how to make this work.


Little-known indeed--I didn't know rsync could do that.. that's really cool.
So for a little more explanation, say you have a directory tree /database,
and you want to sync only the files that were changed in the last ten days.
You should be able to do something like the following:

rsync -av REMOTEHOST:'$(find /database -ctime -10)' /local/database/mirror
which would be about the same as
rsync -av REMOTEHOST:'$(find /database -not -ctime +10)'
/local/database/mirror

The difference between using find's ctime and mtime options: mtime will only
change if the actual file data has changed, whereas ctime includes both file
data and metadata--permissions, ownership info, file name, etc.

Hope that helps!
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Re: Unneccesary abuse?

2008-11-09 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 09:16:34AM +0100, William Murray wrote:
 
   Hello guys,
 I just looked at an old bookmark to my 'smolt' profile stored
 with Fedora. I think it is a little unnecessary to be met with:
 
 Hardware : Crap!
 20 Sat Nov 8 08:14:00 2008 
 Error: Critical: New versions of smolt use a public UUID. Yours is:
 pub_4259ad23-b527-4049-88f0-75dc9591c2ff 
 
 Maybe this is supposed to be helpful. But it doesn't seem that way.
 Is there a better message possible?
Bill

Bill,

I forwarded your email to the smolt-devel mailing list for the
developers to look at and hopefully address.

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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Dan Thurman

Alan Cox wrote:


 How about the other way around?  What if you want to,
 say translate unicode characters to english?  I have

I'm not sure what you mean by to English, Unicode is a character
encoding not a language dependant encoding. You can look up unicode
symbols on www.unicode.org, you probably need the right fonts installed
that is all.

Alan

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For example, there is umlaut - and that could be transliterated into
`u' for example.  Others may have strange looking unicode and I have
no idea what it is supposed to me - so I cannot transliterate w/o knowing
what it is in the first place - so how do I find out?  The unlaut is 
sometimes

obvious - but others are not.  So is there a way to show this?  As I said,
I get binary icons so how do I get the unicode decimal representation so
that I can match against the unicode character table to see what it is?

Would it be: print \\%d, $1 ?

Thanks!
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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-09 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Dave Feustel wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 09:38:48AM -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
 Gene Heskett wrote:
 Except that is a 'frownie' as displayed here, and in this email. 
 ☺

 When I try this on F9 using ksh, I get blank lines.
 What font(s) need to be installed?

It works for me in ksh with xterm or konsole.  The smileys are in
DejaVu-Sans, which I believe is installed by default.

Matt Flaschen

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Re: exclude option for rsync

2008-11-09 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 10Nov2008 09:56, L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I use rsync to sync a mirror site. I wnat to exclude files that were created
| more than 10 days ago. I have  a long list of excludes in a file. But I want
| a dynamic option.
| what is the option for this in rsync ?

As far as I'm aware there isn't one. The include/exclude stuff is
entirely pathname based. I have in the past done a recursive _listing_
of a mirror site, chosen files out of that, and constructed an
include/exclude file on that basis. This was automated with a script.

In my case the example was a GNU archive with multiple versions of
packages; I wished only to mirror the latest package.

If you can construct (via, perhaps, rsync -n and some postprocessing)
a list of the remote files that you want, or do not want, it is a pretty
easy task to convert that into an include/exclude list automatically. Then
you just use that in a wrapper script for calling rsync.

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Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] [PATCH] Few tab issues to get it running

2008-11-09 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Bryan Kearney [EMAIL PROTECTED]

---
 imgcreate/kickstart.py  |2 +-
 tools/livecd-creator|   26 --
 2 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
 mode change 100644 = 100755 tools/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh



I finally came around to applying this diff;

I've pushed the update to EPEL-5 testing.

Kind regards,

Jeroen van Meeuwen
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Re: Comments: IN DEPTH: Fedora 10 Preview

2008-11-09 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 09:53:34AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 Hi,

 I just listened to the review at

 http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZUm0A_jBwc

 and wanted to offer some comments to help you folks understand the  
 changes better.

Rahul, good write-up explaining some of these changes.  I get the
feeling, though, from having listened to LAS for quite a while, that
these guys are far more interested in superficialities than the work
that actually goes into free software.  For instance, one of the hosts
says up front that Fedora sucks, but yet he goes on to agree with
every positive point made by the other host except for the Nodoka
theme and the Plymouth fallback to text mode.

Another point that had me scratching my head was the same host
indicating that Fedora had a lot of features that were in Ubuntu
8.10.  This is certainly true, but the differentiator is that many of
these features were *built* by Fedora contributors, inside and outside
Red Hat.  It's important for us to keep emphasizing this fact.

Overall, the Artwork team seems to be picking up great kudos for their
work, which is wonderful.  It would be nice, though, to see reviewers
pay more attention to what's under the hood.  I expect this is a
problem reflective of the Sturgeon 90% principle rather than something
specific to Fedora or free software.

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Re: Comments: IN DEPTH: Fedora 10 Preview

2008-11-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote:

Another point that had me scratching my head was the same host
indicating that Fedora had a lot of features that were in Ubuntu
8.10.  This is certainly true, but the differentiator is that many of
these features were *built* by Fedora contributors, inside and outside
Red Hat.  It's important for us to keep emphasizing this fact.


This is something that has be bugging me for a long time.

Basically, Ubuntu X gets out just a little before Fedora X.

Take the release notes for Ubuntu, they are mainly including « features
» that count in the Fedora X features.

Who gets the credit ? The first one to communicate about them...


That was one of the goals of the feature list. Not to be competitive but 
communicate early on, the features we were working on and it has 
resulted in a number of enthusiasts and the press, using it as their 
primary source of changes in the upcoming releases.


We could do more, of course.  Writing the release summary early on, can 
be quite useful for example. We just need more contributors working on it.


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Re: [Fedora-music-list] Re: [Fedora Update] [old_testing] rakarrack-0.2.0-5.fc8 / fc9

2008-11-09 Thread Leszek Matok
Dnia 2008-11-09, o godz. 11:02:10 Leszek Matok [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a):

 I can't hear anything.
OK, I take that back. After investigation with jackd -v, it turned out
rakarrack.in_1 doesn't automatically connect to system.capture_1. Fixing that
with qjackctl makes everything work. (And disconnecting it again makes
Rakarrack die in pain).

After spending another minute on brute-forcing sane colour scheme, I can now
say Rakarrack is really neat and works great after you tame it :) You really
need to make it behave well by default, though. Without it, I see no point in
introducing this to normal users.

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Broken dependencies in EPEL - 2008-11-09

2008-11-09 Thread Fedora Extras repoclosure
Your following packages in the repository suffer from broken dependencies:

==
The results in this summary consider Test Updates!
==

package: amavisd-new - 2.4.5-1.el5.noarch from fedora-epel-5-ppc
  unresolved deps:
 perl(Archive::Zip)

package: cpanspec - 1.77-1.el5.noarch from fedora-epel-5-ppc
  unresolved deps:
 perl(Archive::Zip)

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Re: ON_DEV usage (was: Fwd: Who moved my bug?)

2008-11-09 Thread Marcela Maslanova
Chris Weyl wrote:
 This seems like a good idea -- everything seems to be working pretty
 smoothly right now, but it seems like a step in the right direction as
 we have more and more SIG maintained perl bits (the stuff formerly
 belonging to JPO comes to mind).  Should we adopt it as our policy
 also; that is, when working on a bug for a perl package we toggle the
 state to ON_DEV?
 
-Chris
 
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 From: Kevin Kofler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 7:18 AM
 Subject: Re: Who moved my bug?
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Till Maas opensource at till.name writes:
 ASSIGNED means, that the bug has been triaged, i.e. it is assigned to the
 rigth component and all necessary information is provided[1]. A member of the
 Fedora Triage Team probably did the changes to your bugs.
 
 I'll also add that if you work in a team and need a status to set when you're
 actively working on fixing something (so you don't duplicate work in the 
 team),
 you can use the ON_DEV status for that purpose. (KDE SIG and a few other teams
 use this.) Note that this is not required, it's only a convention followed by
 some team-maintained packages.
 
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