Re: advice for data recovery

2008-11-10 Thread Waleed Harbi
Try Scalpel
http://www.digitalforensicssolutions.com/Scalpel/
or Foremost
http://foremost.sourceforge.net/

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:56 AM, Dave Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I am trying to recover .jpgs that were on a SATA drive that was formatted
> by
> mistake. No backup of course. Foremost has done a wonderful job of
> recovering
> several tens of thousands of files. Unfortunately many of them are either
> irrelevant (cached web fragments, etc.) or damaged. The most common type of
> damage is shown when trying to view them in Nautilus, when I get a message
> saying, "unsupported marker type."
>
> It seems about 30% - 40% of the files recovered are damaged in this way.
>
> They aren't my images and I am not able to gauge what is worthwhile or not
> but
> I would like to do some triage by only considering those of a certain
> minimum
> size (easy to do) and not damaged (no idea.)
>
> So does anyone know of a program I can use to only copy files that are not
> damaged? I can sort out the teenies, but don't see how to proceed after
> that.
>
> TIA.
>
> Dave
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Re: Create professional looking Invoices with Linux ?

2008-11-10 Thread Waleed Harbi
Billingmanager will help you and free plus On-line.
http://billingmanager.intuit.com/billing/welcome.url

Open office:
http://openoffice-invoice-template.qarchive.org/


On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Richard England <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Kevin Kempter wrote:
>
>> Hi All;
>>
>> anyone have suggestions per software or openoffice templates that will
>> help me create professional looking invoices ?
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>>
>>
> OpenOffice 2.3 on my F8 system, and OpenOffice 2.4 on my F9 system both an
> invoice form available.  I don't believe I've added anything of that nature
> post install.
>
> Look in File>New>Templates and Documents  In OO2.3  At that level there are
> two called Modern Invoice and Elegant Invoice.  In OO2.4 use the same pull
> down but click on the "Templates" group and there is an Invoice document
> there.
>
> HTH,
>
> ~~R
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Re: Keeping Logical Volume during conversion from Fedora to RHEL 5.2

2008-11-10 Thread pat_allen
I've been trying to figure this out on my own and think I understand what I 
need to do. Here's the detailed steps as far as I can tell. Can somebody please 
verify this?

1. On Fedora 9 system, unmount the logical volume and then run vgexport.
2. Install RHEL 5.2
3. On RHEL5 system, run vgimport.

Does it matter what order you give the physical device names or will the system 
sort everything out?

Thanks!


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Re: Problem with Intel Wireless (iwl4965) on HP 8510w laptop

2008-11-10 Thread Endy

Richard Shaw wrote:
Let me start off by saying, it doesn't appear that the problem is with 
the wireless directly, but rather the negotiation when trying to 
connect. Once I get connected everything works fine. I seemed to have 
the best success with the kernel that shipped with F9, however, it 
wasn't even 100%, but more than 3 kernel updates later, things have 
only gotten worse. It usually take 6-14 tries to get a successful 
connection.


Some background info:

HP 8510w laptop with Intel 4965 wireless
D-link wireless G router
WPA2 security/passphrase\





This time it took about 8 tries... Anyone else have this problem or 
suggestions for a fix?


Thanks,
Richard

Yeah, I've been experiencing the same thing with a 4965 chip and several 
different wireless networks, wep, wpa and unencrypted.  I have similar 
entries in my logs and no other useful information.

Endy

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RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825

2008-11-10 Thread bruce
ok...

so you're saying that something is going on regarding the lan, and that when
you attempt to fire up the lan, you're not getting the fc9 to bring up the
text login/gui?

is this with a straight wire lan, or wireless connection? are you using any
other networking function like networkmanager, or just the traditional
system-network-config?



-Original Message-
From: sam Ruma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:44 PM
To: bruce
Cc: fedora-list@redhat.com
Subject: RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825


It is not just a black screen I will copy the screen and e-mail it to you
The DVD is valid. When I disable the built in LAN, fedora works just fine
but without network (internet). So the problem is with built in LAN


--- On Mon, 11/10/08, bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 7:38 PM


ok...

how much mem/size of the drive?

and you say, when you turn the laptop on, all you get is a black screen?

you never see any kind of fc9 screen/information at all??

and you're sure the dvd is valid? did it give you any errs when you were
installing? did it require you to reboot towards the end of the install
process?


-Original Message-
From: sam Ruma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:33 PM
To: bruce
Cc: fedora-list@redhat.com
Subject: RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825


Hello,

Did you just take the default options throughout? Yes
Do you only have fc9 on the drive? What do you mean? I have the DVD
Did you format the drive, prior to installing? Yes


--- On Mon, 11/10/08, bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'Community assistance, encouragement,and
advice for
using Fedora.'" 
Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 7:28 PM


hi sam

exactly what did you do? when you installed fc9, did you just take the
default options throughout? do you only have fc9 on the drive?

did you format the drive, prior to installing?

be patient, we'll get you up/running..


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sam Ruma
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:22 PM
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Subject: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825


I have installed Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 by doing the below
steps:
1.  Disabled built in LAN in the setup.
2.  Installed Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825.
3.  Went back and enable the built in LAN in the setup to get the
ethernet card to works.
The problem when I start the computer I get the black screen and Fedora
doesn?t load.  And if I disable the built in LAN I don?t get network device
in my machine.
Can someone help me please?

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Re: Create professional looking Invoices with Linux ?

2008-11-10 Thread Richard England

Kevin Kempter wrote:

Hi All;

anyone have suggestions per software or openoffice templates that will help me 
create professional looking invoices ?



Thanks in advance

  
OpenOffice 2.3 on my F8 system, and OpenOffice 2.4 on my F9 system both 
an invoice form available.  I don't believe I've added anything of that 
nature post install.


Look in File>New>Templates and Documents  In OO2.3  At that level there 
are two called Modern Invoice and Elegant Invoice.  In OO2.4 use the 
same pull down but click on the "Templates" group and there is an 
Invoice document there.


HTH,

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Re: How to get sound working in F9

2008-11-10 Thread Waleed Harbi
What is your sound card?
try use *alsamixer *command.

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 3:51 PM, GN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Can someone please give me some clues on how to get sound working in F9.
>
> The System> Preferences > Hardware > Sound doesn't look anything like
> that shown in the help file and I am stymied.
>
> My /etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf file has me authed for everything. No
> errors show for pulseaudio --check
>
> Ta,
>
> GN
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Re: fonts in f9

2008-11-10 Thread Tim
Rick Stevens:
>> Uh, I think they mean "xorg-x11-fonts-*".  There is no xorg-x11-conf
>> stuff.

Tom Horsley:
> Yea, I said font up at the top, but somehow my fingers typed conf
> down at the bottom :-). Sorry about the mixup.

If you do a search for xorg-x11-font you're only going to find some of
the font packages.  You'd be better to search for font, and pick out the
more obvious ones that you'd want going by name and description
(ignoring ones for foreign languages you don't need, or for certain
programs - they'll probably be tiny bitmaps).

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Re: Fedora 9 VPN Client

2008-11-10 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Wednesday 05 November 2008 11:25:49 pm Kevin Kempter wrote:
> Hi All;
>
> I have several clients I work with all of 'em have some sort of VPN - some
> are java web based, some are PPTP, Cisco, etc
>
> Anyone have recommendations for a good VPN tool (tools) ?
>
> Thanks in advance
NetworkManager  it has plugins you can add for pptp, openvpn and cisco.I 
use vpnc (cisco) one all the time. and uses openvpn from time to time 

Dennis

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Re: K3B ???

2008-11-10 Thread g
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> FC 8  i386
> I want to upgrade my Laptop, and I want to burn /home/user folder on to  
> a DVD to save.
> But using K3B if I do a burn of /home/user folder, it will burn contents 
> of /home/user, but it won't burn files or sub directories in folders in 
> /home/user WHY ??

is 'user' a regular directory you created, or is it a link?

in lower section of k3b, are you clicking 'new data dvd project' to open
'current projects'?

when you say '/home/user', are you dragging '/home/' or just 'user'?

when you drag to 'current projects', what prompt do you get after you
drop?
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Problem with Intel Wireless (iwl4965) on HP 8510w laptop

2008-11-10 Thread Richard Shaw
Let me start off by saying, it doesn't appear that the problem is with the
wireless directly, but rather the negotiation when trying to connect. Once I
get connected everything works fine. I seemed to have the best success with
the kernel that shipped with F9, however, it wasn't even 100%, but more than
3 kernel updates later, things have only gotten worse. It usually take 6-14
tries to get a successful connection.

Some background info:

HP 8510w laptop with Intel 4965 wireless
D-link wireless G router
WPA2 security/passphrase

I would suspect the wireless router except it works fine with this laptop in
XP and my wife's laptop (broadcom w/ native driver+firmware) in both XP and
F9 every time. I've watched /var/log/messages during the attempts but I
don't know what all it is telling me, if anything useful.

Below are two excerpts one unsuccessful and the other successful:
Unsuccessful:
---
Nov 10 20:31:22 laptop NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of
5 (Device Prepare) scheduled...
Nov 10 20:31:22 laptop NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of
5 (Device Prepare) started...
Nov 10 20:31:22 laptop NetworkManager:   (wlan0): device state change:
6 -> 4
Nov 10 20:31:22 laptop NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of
5 (Device Configure) scheduled...
Nov 10 20:31:22 laptop NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of
5 (Device Prepare) complete.
Nov 10 20:31:22 laptop NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of
5 (Device Configure) starting...
Nov 10 20:31:22 laptop NetworkManager:   (wlan0): device state change:
4 -> 5
Nov 10 20:31:22 laptop NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0/wireless):
connection 'Auto Home' has security, and secrets exist.  No new secrets
needed.
Nov 10 20:31:22 laptop NetworkManager:   Config: added 'ssid' value
'Home'
Nov 10 20:31:22 laptop NetworkManager:   Config: added 'scan_ssid'
value '1'
Nov 10 20:31:22 laptop NetworkManager:   Config: added 'key_mgmt'
value 'WPA-PSK'
Nov 10 20:31:22 laptop NetworkManager:   Config: added 'psk' value
''
Nov 10 20:31:22 laptop NetworkManager:   Config: added 'proto' value
'WPA RSN'
Nov 10 20:31:22 laptop NetworkManager:   Config: added 'pairwise'
value 'TKIP CCMP'
Nov 10 20:31:22 laptop NetworkManager:   Config: added 'group' value
'WEP40 WEP104 TKIP CCMP'
Nov 10 20:31:22 laptop NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of
5 (Device Configure) complete.
Nov 10 20:31:22 laptop NetworkManager:   Config: set interface ap_scan
to 1
Nov 10 20:31:22 laptop NetworkManager:   (wlan0): supplicant
connection state change: 0 -> 2
Nov 10 20:31:28 laptop kernel: Machine check events logged
Nov 10 20:31:29 laptop NetworkManager:   (wlan0): supplicant
connection state change: 2 -> 3
Nov 10 20:31:29 laptop NetworkManager:   (wlan0): supplicant
connection state change: 3 -> 4
Nov 10 20:31:30 laptop NetworkManager:   (wlan0): supplicant
connection state change: 4 -> 5
Nov 10 20:31:38 laptop NetworkManager:   (wlan0): supplicant
connection state change: 5 -> 0
Nov 10 20:31:38 laptop NetworkManager:   (wlan0): supplicant
connection state change: 0 -> 2
Nov 10 20:31:40 laptop NetworkManager:   (wlan0): supplicant
connection state change: 2 -> 0
Nov 10 20:31:40 laptop NetworkManager:   (wlan0): supplicant
connection state change: 0 -> 2
Nov 10 20:31:47 laptop NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0/wireless):
association took too long.
Nov 10 20:31:47 laptop NetworkManager:   (wlan0): device state change:
5 -> 6
Nov 10 20:31:47 laptop NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0/wireless):
asking for new secrets
Nov 10 20:31:47 laptop NetworkManager:   (wlan0): supplicant
connection state change: 2 -> 0
---

Successful:
---
Nov 10 20:31:50 laptop NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of
5 (Device Prepare) scheduled...
Nov 10 20:31:50 laptop NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of
5 (Device Prepare) started...
Nov 10 20:31:50 laptop NetworkManager:   (wlan0): device state change:
6 -> 4
Nov 10 20:31:50 laptop NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of
5 (Device Configure) scheduled...
Nov 10 20:31:50 laptop NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of
5 (Device Prepare) complete.
Nov 10 20:31:50 laptop NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of
5 (Device Configure) starting...
Nov 10 20:31:50 laptop NetworkManager:   (wlan0): device state change:
4 -> 5
Nov 10 20:31:50 laptop NetworkManager:   Activation (wlan0/wireless):
connection 'Auto Home' has security, and secrets exist.  No new secrets
needed.
Nov 10 20:31:50 laptop NetworkManager:   Config: added 'ssid' value
'Home'
Nov 10 20:31:50 laptop NetworkManager:   Config: added 'scan_ssid'
value '1'
Nov 10 20:31:50 laptop NetworkManager:   Config: added 'key_mgmt'
value 'WPA-PSK'
Nov 10 20:31:50 laptop NetworkManager:   Config: added 'psk' value
''
Nov 10 20:31:50 laptop NetworkManager:   Config: added 'proto' value
'WPA RSN'
Nov 10 20:31:50 laptop NetworkManager:   Config: added 'pairwise'
value 'TKIP CCMP'
Nov 10 20:31:50 laptop NetworkManager:   Config: added 'group' valu

RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825

2008-11-10 Thread sam Ruma
It is not just a black screen I will copy the screen and e-mail it to you
The DVD is valid. When I disable the built in LAN, fedora works just fine but 
without network (internet). So the problem is with built in LAN

--- On Mon, 11/10/08, bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 7:38 PM

ok...

how much mem/size of the drive?

and you say, when you turn the laptop on, all you get is a black screen?

you never see any kind of fc9 screen/information at all??

and you're sure the dvd is valid? did it give you any errs when you were
installing? did it require you to reboot towards the end of the install
process?


-Original Message-
From: sam Ruma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:33 PM
To: bruce
Cc: fedora-list@redhat.com
Subject: RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825


Hello,

Did you just take the default options throughout? Yes
Do you only have fc9 on the drive? What do you mean? I have the DVD
Did you format the drive, prior to installing? Yes


--- On Mon, 11/10/08, bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'Community assistance, encouragement,and
advice for
using Fedora.'" 
Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 7:28 PM


hi sam

exactly what did you do? when you installed fc9, did you just take the
default options throughout? do you only have fc9 on the drive?

did you format the drive, prior to installing?

be patient, we'll get you up/running..


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sam Ruma
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:22 PM
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Subject: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825


I have installed Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 by doing the below
steps:
1.  Disabled built in LAN in the setup.
2.  Installed Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825.
3.  Went back and enable the built in LAN in the setup to get the
ethernet card to works.
The problem when I start the computer I get the black screen and Fedora
doesn?t load.  And if I disable the built in LAN I don?t get network device
in my machine.
Can someone help me please?




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RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825

2008-11-10 Thread bruce
ok...

how much mem/size of the drive?

and you say, when you turn the laptop on, all you get is a black screen?

you never see any kind of fc9 screen/information at all??

and you're sure the dvd is valid? did it give you any errs when you were
installing? did it require you to reboot towards the end of the install
process?


-Original Message-
From: sam Ruma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:33 PM
To: bruce
Cc: fedora-list@redhat.com
Subject: RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825


Hello,

Did you just take the default options throughout? Yes
Do you only have fc9 on the drive? What do you mean? I have the DVD
Did you format the drive, prior to installing? Yes


--- On Mon, 11/10/08, bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for
using Fedora.'" 
Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 7:28 PM


hi sam

exactly what did you do? when you installed fc9, did you just take the
default options throughout? do you only have fc9 on the drive?

did you format the drive, prior to installing?

be patient, we'll get you up/running..


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sam Ruma
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:22 PM
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Subject: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825


I have installed Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 by doing the below
steps:
1.  Disabled built in LAN in the setup.
2.  Installed Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825.
3.  Went back and enable the built in LAN in the setup to get the
ethernet card to works.
The problem when I start the computer I get the black screen and Fedora
doesn?t load.  And if I disable the built in LAN I don?t get network device
in my machine.
Can someone help me please?

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RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825

2008-11-10 Thread sam Ruma
Hello,
 
Did you just take the default options throughout? Yes
Do you only have fc9 on the drive? What do you mean? I have the DVD
Did you format the drive, prior to installing? Yes


--- On Mon, 11/10/08, bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for 
using Fedora.'" 
Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 7:28 PM

hi sam

exactly what did you do? when you installed fc9, did you just take the
default options throughout? do you only have fc9 on the drive?

did you format the drive, prior to installing?

be patient, we'll get you up/running..


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Subject: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825


I have installed Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 by doing the below
steps:
1.  Disabled built in LAN in the setup.
2.  Installed Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825.
3.  Went back and enable the built in LAN in the setup to get the
ethernet card to works.
The problem when I start the computer I get the black screen and Fedora
doesn?t load.  And if I disable the built in LAN I don?t get network device
in my machine.
Can someone help me please?





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RE: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825

2008-11-10 Thread bruce
hi sam

exactly what did you do? when you installed fc9, did you just take the
default options throughout? do you only have fc9 on the drive?

did you format the drive, prior to installing?

be patient, we'll get you up/running..


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Subject: install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825


I have installed Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 by doing the below
steps:
1.  Disabled built in LAN in the setup.
2.  Installed Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825.
3.  Went back and enable the built in LAN in the setup to get the
ethernet card to works.
The problem when I start the computer I get the black screen and Fedora
doesn?t load.  And if I disable the built in LAN I don?t get network device
in my machine.
Can someone help me please?


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install Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825

2008-11-10 Thread sam Ruma
I have installed Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825 by doing the below 
steps:
1.  Disabled built in LAN in the setup.
2.  Installed Fedora 9 on Toshiba Satellite A305-S6825. 
3.  Went back and enable the built in LAN in the setup to get the ethernet 
card to works.
The problem when I start the computer I get the black screen and Fedora doesn’t 
load.  And if I disable the built in LAN I don’t get network device in my 
machine.
Can someone help me please?
 


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How to get sound working in F9

2008-11-10 Thread GN

Hi,

Can someone please give me some clues on how to get sound working in F9.

The System> Preferences > Hardware > Sound doesn't look anything like
that shown in the help file and I am stymied.

My /etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf file has me authed for everything. No 
errors show for pulseaudio --check


Ta,

GN


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Re: Fedora 9 VPN Client

2008-11-10 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 22:25 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote:
> Hi All;
> 
> I have several clients I work with all of 'em have some sort of VPN - some 
> are 
> java web based, some are PPTP, Cisco, etc

PPTP pre Windows XP (NT and 2k) was supported under poptop but terribly
insecure.  XP "PPTP" is a varient of l2tp which supports a varient of
IPSec and is supported under several IPSec implementations.  Cisco is
also an IPSec varient that may or may not require XAUTH authentication.
You many need the Cisco specific vpn client package for Linux that's
floating around if you have authentication problems.  On Fedora, what
you are looking for to be compatible with the largest subset them would
be OpenSWAN (Debian / Ubuntu chose to go with StrongSWAN).

OpenSWAN and StrongSWAN are very similar (both being derived from the
now defunct FreeS/WAN project) with similar configurations and both now
support both IKE (Internet Key Exchange) and IKE2, although IKE2 is less
mature than IKE.  IKE will probably suffice for the cases you quote
above, other than the java web based (which is probably a proprietary
SSL based vpn over tcp tunnels which will suck royally for performance
and scalability).

> Anyone have recommendations for a good VPN tool (tools) ?

If you're rolling your own from scratch and are not real worried about
performance and can install third party apps on Windows then OpenVPN is
a good choice recommended by many.  If you are after standards based vpn
and interoperability and performance, then OpenSWAN / IPSec would be a
better choice.

I use both depending on circumstances.  OpenVPN makes a nice IPv6
tunnel broker configuration which I can't do with the current *SWAN
implementations - but may be able with IKE2 as that matures.  OpenVPN is
also nice as a backup P2P VPN and outperforms SSL or SSH based VPN's but
doesn't keep up with IPSec based VPN's under heavy load.

At one time, it was argued that OpenVPN was much easier to deploy,
configure, and use and the arguments would have been valid.  Back then.
Over the years, OpenVPN has become more feature-full (read that as more
complex, difficult to configure, and obtuse to get to work in a lot of
corner cases) while OpenSWAN/StrongSWAN/FreeSWAN has become much much
easier (OTOH, Racoon / setkey is still a rocket scientist head case) to
configure and deploy.  Now a days I don't find IPSec any more difficult
to configure than OpenVPN and it will interface with Cisco's and other
black boxs which OpenVPN will NOT.  OpenSWAN or StrongSWAN will
interface with modern Windows (XP, 2003, Vista, etc) vpn's which OpenVPN
will not (you have to install the OpenVPN client package on Windows
which you may or may not be allowed to do depending on environment).

Also, IPSec is implemented in the Linux kernel and the tunnels run in
kernel space which is a performance win (no user space switching on
packet routing).  IPSec also supports both an ESP mode (classical IPSec)
and an ESP-IN-UDP encapsulation for IPSec NAT-T, which carries
additional overhead but will traverse NAT's.  OpenVPN, OTOH, is a user
space tunnel implementation which results in lower performance, which
won't really matter for smaller networks (but forced the JOIN IPv6
project to disable encrypt due to performance issues).  It also utilizes
ESP-IN-UDP encapsulation (and only utilizes ESP-IN-UDP), which incurs
the additional UDP overhead the same as IPSec NAT-T, although it's an
incompatible implementation of ESP-IN-UDP (different UDP port) from
IPSec NAT-T.

OpenVPN is well supported but the latest version has been in "RC"
status for seemingly forever.  The last 2.0 version (2.0.9) was over 2
years ago and 2.1 is only been in "release candidate" from well before
then.  The version in yum is an rc of the eventual 2.1 release.  You
really REALLY want the 2.1 release of OpenVPN for any shot at scaling
large networks, since it supports a server mode on a single UDP port
(IPv4 only).  Earlier versions required a different UDP port for each
connection (IPv6 still does) and did not scale well past a few dozen
connections.  Fully meshed mode does not scale well in either case with
OpenVPN but is very straight forward with certificates and the *SWAN's.

All of this, OpenSWAN, IPSec-Tools (Racoon), and OpenVPN is in the
stock Fedora yum repos.

Pick yer poison.

> Thanks in advance

Mike
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Re: fonts in f9

2008-11-10 Thread Rick Stevens

Dave Feustel wrote:

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 03:53:10PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote:

Dave Feustel wrote:

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 06:09:28PM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:05:14 -0800
Rick Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Uh, I think they mean "xorg-x11-fonts-*".  There is no xorg-x11-conf
stuff.

Yea, I said font up at the top, but somehow my fingers typed conf
down at the bottom :-). Sorry about the mixup.

OK. That worked better. I got one item - xorg-x11-fonts-utils, but no
font packages.

Interesting.  I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] Documentation]# yum list xorg-x11-fonts*
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Installed Packages
xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed 

xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi.noarch  7.2-6.fc9 installed 

xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi.noarch   7.2-6.fc9 installed 

xorg-x11-fonts-Type1.noarch  7.2-6.fc9 installed 

xorg-x11-fonts-misc.noarch   7.2-6.fc9 installed 


Available Packages
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-75dpi.noarch7.2-6.fc9  fedora 

xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-14-100dpi.noarch  7.2-6.fc9  fedora 

xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-14-75dpi.noarch   7.2-6.fc9  fedora 

xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-15-100dpi.noarch  7.2-6.fc9  fedora 

xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-15-75dpi.noarch   7.2-6.fc9  fedora 

xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-2-100dpi.noarch   7.2-6.fc9  fedora 

xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-2-75dpi.noarch7.2-6.fc9  fedora 

xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-100dpi.noarch   7.2-6.fc9  fedora 

xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-75dpi.noarch7.2-6.fc9  fedora 

xorg-x11-fonts-cyrillic.noarch   7.2-6.fc9  fedora 

xorg-x11-fonts-ethiopic.noarch   7.2-6.fc9  fedora 



I get the same list of fonts running the yum command you used.

Yumex doesn't list any fonts with names beginning with xorg
as far as I can tell. Yumex *did* list a lot of fonts
when I specified *font*. I installed a bunch.


Using yumex, I clicked on the "All" button, entered "xorg-x11-fonts*" in 
the search bar and clicked on the binocular icon.  Ended up with the

same stuff that yum showed, but the installed fonts were highlighted in
green with checkmarks next to them.

Should work for you as well.
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Re: fonts in f9

2008-11-10 Thread Dave Feustel
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 03:53:10PM -0800, Rick Stevens wrote:
> Dave Feustel wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 06:09:28PM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:05:14 -0800
>>> Rick Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
 Uh, I think they mean "xorg-x11-fonts-*".  There is no xorg-x11-conf
 stuff.
>>> Yea, I said font up at the top, but somehow my fingers typed conf
>>> down at the bottom :-). Sorry about the mixup.
>>
>> OK. That worked better. I got one item - xorg-x11-fonts-utils, but no
>> font packages.
>
> Interesting.  I get:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Documentation]# yum list xorg-x11-fonts*
> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> Installed Packages
> xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed 
>
> xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi.noarch  7.2-6.fc9 installed 
>
> xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi.noarch   7.2-6.fc9 installed 
>
> xorg-x11-fonts-Type1.noarch  7.2-6.fc9 installed 
>
> xorg-x11-fonts-misc.noarch   7.2-6.fc9 installed 
>
> Available Packages
> xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-75dpi.noarch7.2-6.fc9  fedora 
>
> xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-14-100dpi.noarch  7.2-6.fc9  fedora 
>
> xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-14-75dpi.noarch   7.2-6.fc9  fedora 
>
> xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-15-100dpi.noarch  7.2-6.fc9  fedora 
>
> xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-15-75dpi.noarch   7.2-6.fc9  fedora 
>
> xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-2-100dpi.noarch   7.2-6.fc9  fedora 
>
> xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-2-75dpi.noarch7.2-6.fc9  fedora 
>
> xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-100dpi.noarch   7.2-6.fc9  fedora 
>
> xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-75dpi.noarch7.2-6.fc9  fedora 
>
> xorg-x11-fonts-cyrillic.noarch   7.2-6.fc9  fedora 
>
> xorg-x11-fonts-ethiopic.noarch   7.2-6.fc9  fedora 
>

I get the same list of fonts running the yum command you used.

Yumex doesn't list any fonts with names beginning with xorg
as far as I can tell. Yumex *did* list a lot of fonts
when I specified *font*. I installed a bunch.

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gnome-settings-daemon crashes immediately upon starting up... but only in KDE

2008-11-10 Thread Kelly Miller
For some odd reason, gnome-settings-daemon keeps crashing immediately upon 
startup, returning the following error:

The program 'gnome-settings-daemon' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
  (Details: serial 2669 error_code 8 request_code 20 minor_code 0)
  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
[1226361695,000,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_start_listen/]The backend does not 
require manual layout management - but it is provided by the application

Apparently, this may be a conflict between evdev and gnome-settings-daemon, 
but I don't notice a problem when I log in to GNOME, only when I try to start 
it via command line in KDE.

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advice for data recovery

2008-11-10 Thread Dave Stevens
Hello All,

I am trying to recover .jpgs that were on a SATA drive that was formatted by 
mistake. No backup of course. Foremost has done a wonderful job of recovering 
several tens of thousands of files. Unfortunately many of them are either 
irrelevant (cached web fragments, etc.) or damaged. The most common type of 
damage is shown when trying to view them in Nautilus, when I get a message 
saying, "unsupported marker type."

It seems about 30% - 40% of the files recovered are damaged in this way.

They aren't my images and I am not able to gauge what is worthwhile or not but 
I would like to do some triage by only considering those of a certain minimum 
size (easy to do) and not damaged (no idea.)

So does anyone know of a program I can use to only copy files that are not 
damaged? I can sort out the teenies, but don't see how to proceed after that.  

TIA.

Dave

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Re: fonts in f9

2008-11-10 Thread Rick Stevens

Dave Feustel wrote:

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 06:09:28PM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:05:14 -0800
Rick Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Uh, I think they mean "xorg-x11-fonts-*".  There is no xorg-x11-conf
stuff.

Yea, I said font up at the top, but somehow my fingers typed conf
down at the bottom :-). Sorry about the mixup.


OK. That worked better. I got one item - xorg-x11-fonts-utils, but no
font packages.


Interesting.  I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] Documentation]# yum list xorg-x11-fonts*
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Installed Packages
xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi.noarch 7.2-6.fc9 installed 

xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi.noarch  7.2-6.fc9 installed 

xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi.noarch   7.2-6.fc9 installed 

xorg-x11-fonts-Type1.noarch  7.2-6.fc9 installed 

xorg-x11-fonts-misc.noarch   7.2-6.fc9 installed 


Available Packages
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-75dpi.noarch7.2-6.fc9  fedora 

xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-14-100dpi.noarch  7.2-6.fc9  fedora 

xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-14-75dpi.noarch   7.2-6.fc9  fedora 

xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-15-100dpi.noarch  7.2-6.fc9  fedora 

xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-15-75dpi.noarch   7.2-6.fc9  fedora 

xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-2-100dpi.noarch   7.2-6.fc9  fedora 

xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-2-75dpi.noarch7.2-6.fc9  fedora 

xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-100dpi.noarch   7.2-6.fc9  fedora 

xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-9-75dpi.noarch7.2-6.fc9  fedora 

xorg-x11-fonts-cyrillic.noarch   7.2-6.fc9  fedora 

xorg-x11-fonts-ethiopic.noarch   7.2-6.fc9  fedora 








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Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-10 Thread g
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bruce wrote:

> and given that usb/laptop drives are cheap... i can always keep one by my
> side, and rotate it with the working drive in the box...
> 
> should work ok...

unless you;

> bruce wrote:

> Well, yes, but one of the reasons you make backups is to cover the case
> where you meant to type 'rm -rf something*' when you are in the root
> directory and accidentally type 'rm -rf something *' instead.  Or a
> software bug that does something like that.

which would take out usb drive

> Yes - but it would be even better if you rotated 2 such disks - or ran
> over the network to another box.

which will cover you up to time that drive was rotated out.

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RE: Linux backup help

2008-11-10 Thread bruce
exactly my thought!!!

and given that usb/laptop drives are cheap... i can always keep one by my
side, and rotate it with the working drive in the box...

should work ok...


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To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora.
Subject: Re: Linux backup help


bruce wrote:
> hi les/guys...
>
> assume you had/have a usb/external drive that was connected to the laptop.
> assume that it was also the same size (2.5") as the laptop drive...
couldn't
> you set up a process to do a complete rsync/backup every x hours of
> everything on the drive in use.

Well, yes, but one of the reasons you make backups is to cover the case
where you meant to type 'rm -rf something*' when you are in the root
directory and accidentally type 'rm -rf something *' instead.  Or a
software bug that does something like that.

> this would give a complete, always available backup that would always be
> right at your arms ready!!!

Yes - but it would be even better if you rotated 2 such disks - or ran
over the network to another box.

> ok.. so what would be needed to accomplish this!!

You can either do the obvious script that rsync's each partition and let
cron run it, or look up one of the packages that keeps some history,
like rdiff-backup.

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Re: fonts in f9

2008-11-10 Thread Dave Feustel
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 06:09:28PM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:05:14 -0800
> Rick Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Uh, I think they mean "xorg-x11-fonts-*".  There is no xorg-x11-conf
> > stuff.
> 
> Yea, I said font up at the top, but somehow my fingers typed conf
> down at the bottom :-). Sorry about the mixup.

OK. That worked better. I got one item - xorg-x11-fonts-utils, but no
font packages.

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Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-10 Thread Les Mikesell

bruce wrote:

hi les/guys...

assume you had/have a usb/external drive that was connected to the laptop.
assume that it was also the same size (2.5") as the laptop drive... couldn't
you set up a process to do a complete rsync/backup every x hours of
everything on the drive in use.


Well, yes, but one of the reasons you make backups is to cover the case 
where you meant to type 'rm -rf something*' when you are in the root 
directory and accidentally type 'rm -rf something *' instead.  Or a 
software bug that does something like that.



this would give a complete, always available backup that would always be
right at your arms ready!!!


Yes - but it would be even better if you rotated 2 such disks - or ran 
over the network to another box.



ok.. so what would be needed to accomplish this!!


You can either do the obvious script that rsync's each partition and let 
cron run it, or look up one of the packages that keeps some history, 
like rdiff-backup.


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Re: how to count nfs clients attached to my server?

2008-11-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 11:42 -0800, Mike Cloaked wrote:
> Do you need to have any holes in the firewalls for a remote query to
> work?

At a guess port 111 (Sunrpc).

poc

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Re: K3B ???

2008-11-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 11:51 -0500, Jim wrote:
> FC 8  i386
> I want to upgrade my Laptop, and I want to burn /home/user folder on to  
> a DVD to save.
> But using K3B if I do a burn of /home/user folder, it will burn contents 
> of /home/user, but it won't burn files or sub directories in folders in 
> /home/user WHY ??

Works for me.

poc

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Re: Download size, Counter

2008-11-10 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On 11/10/2008 02:56:10 PM, Jim wrote:
> Comcast.com and AT&T is going to start charging extra for Downloading
> of 
> files,packages, video.
> Is there a App for Linux that will keep count of Downloads(Gbytes),
> like 
> on a monthly basis, so one can keep track of size of downloads for a 
> given month ??

/proc/net/dev tracks up/down traffic (bytes). I track my download 
traffic on a daily basis (Hughes Satelite) with some Perl code that is 
insufficiently general to warrant posting, but its available on 
request.

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Re: fonts in f9

2008-11-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:05:14 -0800
Rick Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Uh, I think they mean "xorg-x11-fonts-*".  There is no xorg-x11-conf
> stuff.

Yea, I said font up at the top, but somehow my fingers typed conf
down at the bottom :-). Sorry about the mixup.

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Re: fonts in f9

2008-11-10 Thread Rick Stevens

Dave Feustel wrote:

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 05:15:49PM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:53:03 -0500
Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm a real F9/x11 newbie. Could you explain how to do this?

I never use the default Add/Remove software tool, but in theory
you should be able to run it and do a search for xorg-x11-font
and select packages from the search results to install.

I tend to use the "yumex" tool rather than the default one because
it just seems more natural to me. To use it do this (as root):

yum install yumex
yumex

Then in the yumex gui you can search for available packages
with xorg-x11-conf in the name.


I tried this but got no hits for xorg-x11-conf.


Uh, I think they mean "xorg-x11-fonts-*".  There is no xorg-x11-conf
stuff.
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Re: Hang coming out of suspend

2008-11-10 Thread Geoffrey Leach
Hello again, Steve. See bottom-posting.

On 11/10/2008 07:14:53 AM, Steve wrote:
> Hello again Geoffrey,
> 
> Please ignore my last message - wrong computer. The correct info is
> below.
> 
>  Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > Hi Geoffrey,
> > 
> >  Geoffrey Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 11/07/2008 02:00:41 PM, Steve wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >  Geoffrey Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > > > > ASUS Z84F. When I suspend (with appropriate quirks) under 
> > > > > kernel-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686, half of the time the system 
> hangs
> on 
> > > > > coming out of the suspend, requiring reboot. Things appear to
> start
> > > > out 
> > > > > well, then, before the display and keyboard are enabled, the
> system 
> > > > > hangs. Earlier 2.6.26 kernels and
> kernel-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 
> > > > (now
> > > > in 
> > > > > use) work fine. Neither /var/log/messages nor dmesg show
> anything 
> > > > > wrong.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Fedora 9 is up-to-date.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Before I submit to Bugzilla, (a) is anyone having a similar
> problem
> > > > and 
> > > > > (b) any suggestions for data gathering?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, I'm having the same issues. See my recent message on gdm
> error
> > > > messages.
> > > 
> > > Steve:
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the reply. I checked out your previous posting (at 
> > > http://article.gmane.org/
> gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general/318262/
> > > match=gdm)
> > > 
> > > and discovered:
> > > 
> > > gconfd (gdm-3110): Error setting value for
> `/apps/gnome-screensaver/
> > > power_management_delay': Can't overwrite existing read-only 
> value:
> 
> > > Value for `/apps/gnome-screensaver/power_management_delay' set in
> a 
> > > read-only source at the front of your configuration path
> > > 
> > > is in my /var/log/messages on dates that correspond with my use 
> of
> 
> > > kernel-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686.
> > > 
> > > I notice that you are running Fedora 8. Which kernel? And which 
> > > computer are you using?
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -a
> Linux hp19748184096 2.6.26.6-79.fc9.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Oct 17 14:20:33
> EDT 2008 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "model name"
> model name: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU  6400  @ 2.13GHz
> model name: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU  6400  @ 2.13GHz
> 
> Steve
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "model name"
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500  @ 1.66GHz
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500  @ 1.66GHz

[EMAIL PROTECTED]>uname -a
Linux mtranch.mtranch.com 2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686 #1 SMP Fri Oct 17 
14:52:14 EDT 2008 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

I used gnome-screensaver-preferences and unchecked "Activate 
screensaver when computer is idle".  The hangup has not re-occurred 
(yet!)
 





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RE: Linux backup help

2008-11-10 Thread bruce
hi les/guys...

assume you had/have a usb/external drive that was connected to the laptop.
assume that it was also the same size (2.5") as the laptop drive... couldn't
you set up a process to do a complete rsync/backup every x hours of
everything on the drive in use.

this would give a complete, always available backup that would always be
right at your arms ready!!!

ok.. so what would be needed to accomplish this!!

thanks!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 2:36 PM
To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora.
Subject: Re: Linux backup help


Frank Cox wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:26:34 -0700
> Kevin Kempter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I'm awaiting a new linux laptop that will be my primary work machine. I
want
>> to implement a strategy that allows me as easily as possible to revert
back
>> to a former state. My primary concern is a scenario where I apply system
>> updates and it breaks something that for me is critical.
>
> Have you looked at this?  (I've never used it myself, yet,  but it looks
> interesting.)
>
> http://www.mondorescue.org/

Clonezilla-live would be good for this if you have space on a networked
machine to hold a compressed disk image.

http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live/

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Download size, Counter

2008-11-10 Thread Jim
Comcast.com and AT&T is going to start charging extra for Downloading of 
files,packages, video.
Is there a App for Linux that will keep count of Downloads(Gbytes), like 
on a monthly basis, so one can keep track of size of downloads for a 
given month ??


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Re: fonts in f9

2008-11-10 Thread Dave Feustel
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 05:15:49PM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:53:03 -0500
> Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I'm a real F9/x11 newbie. Could you explain how to do this?
> 
> I never use the default Add/Remove software tool, but in theory
> you should be able to run it and do a search for xorg-x11-font
> and select packages from the search results to install.
> 
> I tend to use the "yumex" tool rather than the default one because
> it just seems more natural to me. To use it do this (as root):
> 
> yum install yumex
> yumex
> 
> Then in the yumex gui you can search for available packages
> with xorg-x11-conf in the name.

I tried this but got no hits for xorg-x11-conf.

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KDE 4.2 - Set Konsole default window size ?

2008-11-10 Thread Kevin Kempter
Hi All;

I'm running Fedora9 & KDE 4.2
Every time I start Konsole it comes up with the size that the window was the 
last time I used it.  I would prefer to have a fixed starting size (say 
80x25).  Is this possible ?

Thanks in advance...

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kernel build error.

2008-11-10 Thread Reg Clemens
When building 2.6.27.5 on a 64bit machine running a 64bit kernel, there is an
error in the build which reads


  CC  kernel/sched.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/irqinit_64.o
  VDSOarch/x86/vdso/vdso.so.dbg
  OBJCOPY arch/x86/vdso/vdso.so
objcopy: arch/x86/vdso/vdso.so.dbg: File format not recognized
make[1]: *** [arch/x86/vdso/vdso.so] Error 1
make: *** [arch/x86/vdso] Error 2
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/setup_percpu.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/sys_x86_64.o


later, when the script is trying to build the kernel, I see the same message,


make[1]: *** [install] Error 1
make: *** [install] Error 2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] linux-2.6.27.5-PPS]# make
  CHK include/linux/version.h
  CHK include/linux/utsrelease.h
  CALLscripts/checksyscalls.sh
  CHK include/linux/compile.h
  OBJCOPY arch/x86/vdso/vdso.so
objcopy: arch/x86/vdso/vdso.so.dbg: File format not recognized
make[1]: *** [arch/x86/vdso/vdso.so] Error 1
make: *** [arch/x86/vdso] Error 2


Whats going on here, and what am I doing wrong?
First time Ive ever seen anything like this...

With this suffix, is this a debug file of some sort, and can I just
not ask for it (I dont see that I do)

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Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-10 Thread Les Mikesell

Frank Cox wrote:

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:26:34 -0700
Kevin Kempter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm awaiting a new linux laptop that will be my primary work machine. I want 
to implement a strategy that allows me as easily as possible to revert back 
to a former state. My primary concern is a scenario where I apply system 
updates and it breaks something that for me is critical.  


Have you looked at this?  (I've never used it myself, yet,  but it looks
interesting.)

http://www.mondorescue.org/


Clonezilla-live would be good for this if you have space on a networked 
machine to hold a compressed disk image.


http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live/

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Confused by xconfig behaviour.

2008-11-10 Thread Reg Clemens
Im confused by xconfig behaviour.

I am on a 64bit Pentium.
If I am running a 32 bit kernel, and I go to build a kernel, I dont see any 
32/64
bit options, it just assumes 32bit.
If I am running a 64 bit kernel, and I go to build a kernel, I dont see any 
32/64
bit options, it just assumes 64bit.

Shouldnt I be able to build a 64bit kernel while running in 32bit mode?
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Re: Linux backup help

2008-11-10 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:26:34 -0700
Kevin Kempter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm awaiting a new linux laptop that will be my primary work machine. I want 
> to implement a strategy that allows me as easily as possible to revert back 
> to a former state. My primary concern is a scenario where I apply system 
> updates and it breaks something that for me is critical.  

Have you looked at this?  (I've never used it myself, yet,  but it looks
interesting.)

http://www.mondorescue.org/

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Re: Create rofessional looking Invoices with Linux ?

2008-11-10 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:48:50 -0700
Kevin Kempter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> anyone have suggestions per software or openoffice templates that will help 
> me 
> create professional looking invoices ?

On the rare occasions that I need an invoice, I create them with OpenOffice
Writer.  I made a blank invoice sheet as a sxw (now odt) file back when, and
just fill in the blanks and hit print as required.

Of course, if you want an invoice that's integrated with your general ledger
or something, then you'll have to get fancier than that.

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Re: fonts in f9

2008-11-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:53:03 -0500
Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm a real F9/x11 newbie. Could you explain how to do this?

I never use the default Add/Remove software tool, but in theory
you should be able to run it and do a search for xorg-x11-font
and select packages from the search results to install.

I tend to use the "yumex" tool rather than the default one because
it just seems more natural to me. To use it do this (as root):

yum install yumex
yumex

Then in the yumex gui you can search for available packages
with xorg-x11-conf in the name.

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Re: don't print last field

2008-11-10 Thread Phil Meyer

adrian kok wrote:
Hi 


how can I only get the previous field but not last
field from awk?

but I can't use print $1$2

as there are different fields in different line

thank you

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As another posted, NF is what you want to play with.  Here is an example:

ls -l | awk '{ num = NF - 2 ; print $num }'

Please note that awk can use both types of shell variable notations:

With or without the dollar sign on an assignment.

So assign a value based upon NF WITHOUT the dollar sign, and print the 
value WITH a dollar sign.


Hope this helps.

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Re: Pulseaudio

2008-11-10 Thread Lars Bjørndal
Hello!

I'm still working at the same problem. I've now uninstall pulseaudio,
and sound works properly on console, but not in GNOME. I cannot see
any log output about that in /var/log/messages. Could someone please
explain to me how to get sound working in GNOME without pulseaudio?

Lars

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Bjørndal) writes:

> Hello!
>
> Could you please help me with a Pulseaudio problem:
>
> My setup is a Fedora 9 system on a laptop IBM X61, installed from
> a livecd. My default init level is 3, and I use console most of the
> time.
>
> When I do # init 5; I get the following errors, and I have no sound
> under GNOME:
>
> Nov 10 11:57:48 lapx pulseaudio[3321]: polkit.c: Cannot set UID on
> session obj
> t. 
> Nov 10 11:57:48 lapx pulseaudio[3321]: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE,
> (31, 31)
> failed: Operation not permitted 
> Nov 10 11:57:48 lapx pulseaudio[3321]: main.c:
> setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)
> failed: Operation not permitted 
> Nov 10 11:57:50 lapx gdm-simple-greeter[3244]: WARNING: Unable to
> parse histor
>  (null)   25#012 
> Nov 10 12:00:25 lapx pulseaudio[3454]: alsa-util.c: Error opening PCM
> device h
> 0: No such file or directory 
> Nov 10 12:00:25 lapx pulseaudio[3454]: module.c: Failed to load
> module "module-
> alsa-sink" (argument: "device_id=0
> sink_name=alsa_output.pci_8086_284b_sound_car
> d_0_alsa_playback_0"): initialization failed. 
> Nov 10 12:00:25 lapx pulseaudio[3454]: alsa-util.c: Error opening PCM
> device hw:
> 0: No such file or directory 
> Nov 10 12:00:25 lapx pulseaudio[3454]: module.c: Failed to load
> module "module-
> alsa-source" (argument: "device_id=0
> source_name=alsa_input.pci_8086_284b_sound_
> card_0_alsa_capture_0"): initialization failed.
>
> In my /etc/selinux/conf, I have 'SELINUX=disabled'.
>
> I've set gdm and lrs (the latter is my only real user) to be members of
> pulse-rt group.
>
> What could I try to solve this problem?

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Re: chkfontpath ?

2008-11-10 Thread Simon Slater

On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 15:16 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> 
> There are a number of them already packaged (yum search fonts). It is a 
> long list and we are working through it but otherwise it is pretty 
> scattered.
> 
> http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/12/13/open-source-fonts/
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Font_wishlist
> 
> Rahul
> 
This'll be beaut!
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Linux backup help

2008-11-10 Thread Kevin Kempter
Hi All;

I'm awaiting a new linux laptop that will be my primary work machine. I want 
to implement a strategy that allows me as easily as possible to revert back 
to a former state. My primary concern is a scenario where I apply system 
updates and it breaks something that for me is critical.   

I wonder if a simple rsync script would work. If so, here's what I'm thinking:

1) updates are available so I execute the rsync script which pulls any updated 
files from my laptop to a backup server/drive

2) apply updates

3) if something breaks (even if I can no longer login) I boot the laptop, run 
the rsync script in the opposite direction (push files from the backup drive 
to the laptop) 

I assume that if I were to execute step 3 above that my system would be in the 
exact state that it was before I ran the updates. Is this a correct 
assumption ?  Are there better approaches ?


Thanks in advance..

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Re: fonts in f9

2008-11-10 Thread Dave Feustel
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 08:05:09PM +, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > In in the process of upgrading from fc6 to f9, and one of the biggest 
> > aggrivations
> > is fonts.
> 
> The old nasty server based fonts are almost all left out of the default
> install because, after all, gnome doesn't use them, so no one could
> possibly have any use for them at all :-).
> 
> Check for packages in the repos named xorg-x11-font* and install lots
> of them and you'll probably be back to normal.

I'm a real F9/x11 newbie. Could you explain how to do this?

Thanks.

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Re: don't print last field

2008-11-10 Thread Nifty Fedora Mitch
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 04:44:16AM +0800, adrian kok wrote:
> Hi 
> 
> how can I only get the previous field but not last
> field from awk?
> 
> but I can't use print $1$2
> 
> as there are different fields in different line
> 
> thank you
> 

Does knowing the number if fields in a line help?

  "`NF' is a built-in variable whose value is the number of fields in the
  current record.  `awk' automatically updates the value of `NF' each
  time it reads a record. ..."

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Create rofessional looking Invoices with Linux ?

2008-11-10 Thread Kevin Kempter
Hi All;

anyone have suggestions per software or openoffice templates that will help me 
create professional looking invoices ?


Thanks in advance

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don't print last field

2008-11-10 Thread adrian kok
Hi 

how can I only get the previous field but not last
field from awk?

but I can't use print $1$2

as there are different fields in different line

thank you

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Re: fonts in f9

2008-11-10 Thread Tom Horsley
> In in the process of upgrading from fc6 to f9, and one of the biggest 
> aggrivations
> is fonts.

The old nasty server based fonts are almost all left out of the default
install because, after all, gnome doesn't use them, so no one could
possibly have any use for them at all :-).

Check for packages in the repos named xorg-x11-font* and install lots
of them and you'll probably be back to normal.

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Re: how to count nfs clients attached to my server?

2008-11-10 Thread Mike Cloaked



Patrick O'Callaghan-2 wrote:
> 
> 
> Not so. You can run it from anywhere, but you have to say which server
> you're interested in. From the man page:  "showmount  queries the mount
> daemon on a remote host for information about the state of the NFS
> server on that machine".
> 
> 

Do you need to have any holes in the firewalls for a remote query to work?
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Re: How to enter unicode in F9

2008-11-10 Thread Joe Smith

Dave Feustel wrote:

...
Is there a way to enter unicode characters in xterm?


Not for xterm specifically, but in gnome-terminal or other gtk 
applications, you can type Unicode characters using Ctrl+Shift+U, hex 
digits, space.


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Re: Fedora 9 boot problem with HP NetRAID 1Si controller

2008-11-10 Thread Alan Cox
> i2o: iop0 could not activate controller
> 
> (it stalls here...)
> 
> As I recall when I originally installed FC4 it needed the megaraid_mbox 
> driver. I sure it's not loading the right i2o driver either.

Thats an ancient AMI Megaraid by the sound of it.

Go into the megaraid bios settings and turn off the I2O support. Its
years since I fiddled with one of those cards but somewhere is an option
for how it appears. With that set away from I2O it'll pick the right
driver and should work.

Actually throwing that controller away and buying a $10 PCI ATA card
might be an even better idea ;)

Alan

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Re: where to get cisco vpn client for Fedora 9

2008-11-10 Thread Wayne Feick
I'd loosen that to just

# yum search vpn

which picks up the Network Manager packages as well (and also the
openvpn stuff that you probably don't care about).

Wayne.


On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 09:58 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> Kevin Kempter wrote:
> > Hi All;
> > 
> > anyone know where I can get a copy of the cisco vpn client for Fedora9 ?
> 
> Would vpnc work for you?
> 
> # yum search vpnc
> 
>  Matched: vpnc 
> =
> NetworkManager-vpnc.i386 : NetworkManager VPN integration for vpnc
> knetworkmanager-vpnc.i386 : knetworkmanager vpnc client
> vpnc.i386 : IPSec VPN client compatible with Cisco equipment
> vpnc-consoleuser.i386 : Allows console user to run the VPN client directly
> 
> ---
> 
> Rahul
> 
> 
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fonts in f9

2008-11-10 Thread Reg Clemens
In in the process of upgrading from fc6 to f9, and one of the biggest 
aggrivations
is fonts.

I wont say that they have screwed things up (tho thats the way I feel) but they
have definately changed things...  WHY

When I try to run xconfig to build a new kernel, the font size is bigger, and 
I dont
seem to be seeing the top  few items in the menus.  Anyone know where to change
this so I dont have to go hunting?

Dito with exmh, the fonts  in the table of folders are unreadable, but I know 
where
 to fix that one.

And Im running twm as a window manager.
In the dropdown menu for the running processes (the icon manager) the fonts are
probably twice the size that they were before.  Im going t assume this can be 
fixed
somewhere in .twmrc, but if anyone has gone thruthis and found the place, I 
would
be appreciative i you would drop a line,- it will save me some time.

All these changes are going to make working between f9 and earlier systems a 
real
pain,- Im going to have to think about how Im going to install the correct 
config files
for each release...

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Fedora 9 boot problem with HP NetRAID 1Si controller

2008-11-10 Thread Jack Lauman
I reinstalled Fedora 9 on a HP NetServer 2000 that had been previously 
running Fedora 4.


Rebooting the machine following the install gives the following errors:

Booting the kernel
APCI: Resource is not an IRQ entry
pnp: PnPACPI: METHOD_NAME__CRD failure for PNP0400



i2o: iop0 could not activate controller

(it stalls here...)

As I recall when I originally installed FC4 it needed the megaraid_mbox 
driver. I sure it's not loading the right i2o driver either.


Any help in resolving this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Jack

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Fedora 9 VPN Client

2008-11-10 Thread Kevin Kempter
Hi All;

I have several clients I work with all of 'em have some sort of VPN - some are 
java web based, some are PPTP, Cisco, etc

Anyone have recommendations for a good VPN tool (tools) ?

Thanks in advance

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Re: Dependency Champion

2008-11-10 Thread Alan Evans
I think our problem here is that the human mind has in it the concept
of "soft dependencies." That is, "This program can use that feature if
it's installed, or else carry on just fine without it." So removing a
feature shouldn't force removal of a program that could work without
the feature.

But that means that every program must be smart about what it can and
can't do at run time. Being myself a programmer, I understand that it
is a lot of work to implement this, especially for large programs that
could potentially have many optional functions. So I can't really
fault programmers for taking the lazy path and saying, "My program
*can* do printing, so you must have CUPS installed to install my
program, whether you intend to ever print or not."

It would be ideal if this were not the case, but I don't see a lot of
programmers willing to put in the extra effort. In the meantime, we're
stuck with, "I can't remove wireless-tools (from my machine with no
wireless hardware whatsoever) unless I can live without
system-config-users." This is where average users get confused and
frustrated, because they understandably don't see any connection at
all.

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Re: Dependency Champion

2008-11-10 Thread Gordon Messmer

Beartooth wrote:

On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:31:05 -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote:
[...]

If you instruct the tool to remove a package, it does not remove other
packages randomly or haphazardly.  You may not understand the package
relationships, but that does not make them wrong.


	Nobody has suggested that any mental state makes them wrong. What 
does make them wrong, dead wrong, is a fundamental principle of Unix -- 
every tool should do *one* job, and do it well.


Now you're arguing philosophy against fact, where "wrong" doesn't mean 
"incorrect" but "not the way I think it should be done".  If you're 
convinced of your philosophy, you're free to contribute a better solution.


Pango does one job, and does it well.  Pango does text layout.  The 
intention behind pango is that it can lay out any text, including Thai. 
 The pango developers reused an existing library for Thai layout rather 
than writing their own.  Pango is a reusable component that builds on 
other reusable components; another popular development philosophy.


	You'll find that near the front of any book introducing people to 
linux. (Remember books? You probably still have some. They're very good 
for things like history, which doesn't change much.)


Your condescending attitude will convince no one that you are right or 
reasonable, nor will it go far toward creating a community of people who 
are willing to provide you with advice or assistance in the future. 
Consider the ideal conduct of the community that you would like to be a 
part of, and act to create it.


	In most such books, you'll also find an assurance that that 
principle is what makes *ix the triumph that it is, and all the works of 
Redmond the creeping disasters that they are.


Such assurances remain speculation.

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K3B ???

2008-11-10 Thread Jim

FC 8  i386
I want to upgrade my Laptop, and I want to burn /home/user folder on to  
a DVD to save.
But using K3B if I do a burn of /home/user folder, it will burn contents 
of /home/user, but it won't burn files or sub directories in folders in 
/home/user WHY ??


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Keeping Logical Volume during conversion from Fedora to RHEL 5.2

2008-11-10 Thread pat_allen
Good morning -

I have a HP DL385 running Fedora 9. It has a 5TB Apple XServe RAID connected to 
it. The RAID device is actually 2 2.5TB devices (/dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1) 
configured together in a logical volume group. 

I am planning on installing RHEL 5.2 on this system. Before doing so, I want to 
make sure that I can access the logical volume after the system is installed. 
I've verified that RHEL sees the /dev/sda and /dev/sdb partitions but I've 
never had to keep a logical volume before; I've just created them from scratch 
and restored data to it. That's not possible here because of the sheer amount 
of data. 

Does anyone have any words of wisdom?

Thanks!
Pat


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Re: can't run logrotate

2008-11-10 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 08:07 -0500, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
> I have a bunch of machines that are not happy about running logrotate 
> daily. I get these error emails:
> 
> Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> run-parts /etc/cron.daily
> /etc/cron.daily/logrotate:
> error: cannot open current directory: Permission denied
> 
> 
> Does anyone know what would cause this?
> 
> - Mike
> 
Looks like a permission problem of cron.daily
Should be:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 943 2007-10-22 03:36 /usr/bin/run-parts
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Re: Looking for a docbook example.

2008-11-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 09:11 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 00:18 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 21:38 -0500, Steven W. Orr wrote:
> > > Is there such a thing as a nontrivial book that is available for
> > free 
> > > online that also has the docbook src available? I'd like to learn docbook 
> > > and I think having an available example would be a good starting point.
> > 
> > AFAIK the Fedora documentation source is in Docbook format. I don't know
> > if that's sufficiently non-trivial.
> > 
> I am not sure what you mean by Fedora documentation source and/or where
> do you find it?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject

Note that this includes a guide on using Docbook for Fedora docs.

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Re: Looking for a docbook example.

2008-11-10 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 00:18 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 21:38 -0500, Steven W. Orr wrote:
> > Is there such a thing as a nontrivial book that is available for
> free 
> > online that also has the docbook src available? I'd like to learn docbook 
> > and I think having an available example would be a good starting point.
> 
> AFAIK the Fedora documentation source is in Docbook format. I don't know
> if that's sufficiently non-trivial.
> 
I am not sure what you mean by Fedora documentation source and/or where
do you find it?
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Re: knotes on KDE not start automatically

2008-11-10 Thread Rex Dieter
Ambrogio De Lorenzo wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I used knotes on fedora 8 (kde 3.x) and everytime I started the desktop,
> knotes started, with all my notes on the desk.
> 
> Now I installed fedora 9 and KDE 4.1
> I copied all my notes on the new system, and started knotes.
> Everything was ok, but knotes doesn't start at DKE start.
> Other applications starts (pidgin and Kgpg for example).
> 
> Someone known how to make knotes startable at KDE start?

knotes is a plasma applet now, so Add Widgets, drop your applet whereever
you want it, and it should then say for subsequent sessions.

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Re: CUPS, Alpine, and printserving

2008-11-10 Thread Beartooth
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:07:19 +1030, Tim wrote:

> Tim:
>>> If desperate, one could go into /etc/cups/ and remove the entries for
>>> particular printers.  I'm not sure how it handles missing files, but
>>> you could load the file and remove all the configuration data, leaving
>>> just the two comment lines at the top of printers.conf.
> 
> Beartooth:
>> Would you believe that's what it shows now? Yet both Firefox and Opera
>> insist on showing three.
> 
> Yes, printers.conf shows "local" printers.  I'm betting that the
> printers showing up in your browsers are not local ones, but ones on
> another PC and available over the network.
> 
>> I tried using Hbsk and Hbsk.localdomain (which is what uname shows for
>> this machine) on Opera, but it failed to connect, though I saw it try
>> 127.0.0.1
> 
> Tried using them for what?

For 'localhost' in pointing the browser at its own machine. 

This is a vexed question here. I've given all the machines names, 
in hope of better telling them apart under ssh and scp. My router, 
however (a Netgear MBR 814, from my local access provider) sometimes uses 
the names and sometimes does not, in displays for me to read; I can't 
tell what it says to the machines about one another, so I tried things it 
might be saying.
 
> 127.0.0.1 is computer speak for myself, network-wise.  All computers
> connect to themselves at 127.0.0.1.  By convention, "localhost" is
> related to that IP.  And by a Linux convention, "localhost.localdomain"
> is, as well (most likely to satisfy things that want a domain name with
> at least one dot in it).

Yes, I did know that much; and what I seemed to be seeing was a 
failure of it. Hbsk went looking for localhost, translated that into 
127.0.0.1 -- and them failed to find it. So I thought it might have 
better luck starting from 'Hbsk'; it was an easy thing to try.
 
> Whereas other hostnames are generally applied to other network
> interfaces, and some services may not listen to them by default, for
> security reasons, so that they can't be messed with by others over your
> network.
 
When I first started using names, I hoped that might be an 
additional benefit; I'm glad to hear it may, indeed.

Incidentally, CUPS on *some* machines seems to be doing another 
strange thing. When I tell it with Firefox to delete a printer, or make 
on default, or whatever, Firefox opens a tab (labelled 426) telling me I 
now have to use https with some other machine's IP, 192.168.x.y; it lets 
me click on it; and then the whole tab goes blank. 

Looks to me as if it's trying to delete an unwanted printer not 
from its own printers.conf (which I know from the command line doesn't 
have it anyway) but from the other machine it imagines that printer to be 
attached to. (It isn't.)

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Re: Hang coming out of suspend

2008-11-10 Thread Steve
Hello again Geoffrey,

Please ignore my last message - wrong computer. The correct info is below.

 Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Hi Geoffrey,
> 
>  Geoffrey Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > On 11/07/2008 02:00:41 PM, Steve wrote:
> > > 
> > >  Geoffrey Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > > > ASUS Z84F. When I suspend (with appropriate quirks) under 
> > > > kernel-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686, half of the time the system hangs on 
> > > > coming out of the suspend, requiring reboot. Things appear to start
> > > out 
> > > > well, then, before the display and keyboard are enabled, the system 
> > > > hangs. Earlier 2.6.26 kernels and kernel-2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 
> > > (now
> > > in 
> > > > use) work fine. Neither /var/log/messages nor dmesg show anything 
> > > > wrong.
> > > > 
> > > > Fedora 9 is up-to-date.
> > > > 
> > > > Before I submit to Bugzilla, (a) is anyone having a similar problem
> > > and 
> > > > (b) any suggestions for data gathering?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yes, I'm having the same issues. See my recent message on gdm error
> > > messages.
> > 
> > Steve:
> > 
> > Thanks for the reply. I checked out your previous posting (at 
> > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general/318262/
> > match=gdm)
> > 
> > and discovered:
> > 
> > gconfd (gdm-3110): Error setting value for `/apps/gnome-screensaver/
> > power_management_delay': Can't overwrite existing read-only value: 
> > Value for `/apps/gnome-screensaver/power_management_delay' set in a 
> > read-only source at the front of your configuration path
> > 
> > is in my /var/log/messages on dates that correspond with my use of 
> > kernel-2.6.26.6-79.fc9.i686.
> > 
> > I notice that you are running Fedora 8. Which kernel? And which 
> > computer are you using?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -a
Linux hp19748184096 2.6.26.6-79.fc9.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Oct 17 14:20:33 EDT 2008 
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "model name"
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU  6400  @ 2.13GHz
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU  6400  @ 2.13GHz

Steve

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Re: Dependency Champion

2008-11-10 Thread Beartooth
On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:31:05 -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote:
[...]
> If you instruct the tool to remove a package, it does not remove other
> packages randomly or haphazardly.  You may not understand the package
> relationships, but that does not make them wrong.

Nobody has suggested that any mental state makes them wrong. What 
does make them wrong, dead wrong, is a fundamental principle of Unix -- 
every tool should do *one* job, and do it well.

You'll find that near the front of any book introducing people to 
linux. (Remember books? You probably still have some. They're very good 
for things like history, which doesn't change much.)

In most such books, you'll also find an assurance that that 
principle is what makes *ix the triumph that it is, and all the works of 
Redmond the creeping disasters that they are.

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Re: Looking for a docbook example.

2008-11-10 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 11:17 +, Tim Waugh wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 21:38 -0500, Steven W. Orr wrote:
> > Is there such a thing as a nontrivial book that is available for free 
> > online that also has the docbook src available? I'd like to learn docbook 
> > and I think having an available example would be a good starting point.
> 
> A good while ago I made one that includes its own source in the
> appendix, called Selfdocbook:
> 
>   http://cyberelk.net/tim/docbook/ (bottom of page)

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can't run logrotate

2008-11-10 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
I have a bunch of machines that are not happy about running logrotate 
daily. I get these error emails:


Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> run-parts /etc/cron.daily
/etc/cron.daily/logrotate:
error: cannot open current directory: Permission denied


Does anyone know what would cause this?

- Mike

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Pulseaudio

2008-11-10 Thread Lars Bjørndal
Hello!

Could you please help me with a Pulseaudio problem:

My setup is a Fedora 9 system on a laptop IBM X61, installed from
a livecd. My default init level is 3, and I use console most of the
time.

When I do # init 5; I get the following errors, and I have no sound
under GNOME:

Nov 10 11:57:48 lapx pulseaudio[3321]: polkit.c: Cannot set UID on
session obj
t. 
Nov 10 11:57:48 lapx pulseaudio[3321]: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE,
(31, 31)
failed: Operation not permitted 
Nov 10 11:57:48 lapx pulseaudio[3321]: main.c:
setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)
failed: Operation not permitted 
Nov 10 11:57:50 lapx gdm-simple-greeter[3244]: WARNING: Unable to
parse histor
 (null)   25#012 
Nov 10 12:00:25 lapx pulseaudio[3454]: alsa-util.c: Error opening PCM
device h
0: No such file or directory 
Nov 10 12:00:25 lapx pulseaudio[3454]: module.c: Failed to load
module "module-
alsa-sink" (argument: "device_id=0
sink_name=alsa_output.pci_8086_284b_sound_car
d_0_alsa_playback_0"): initialization failed. 
Nov 10 12:00:25 lapx pulseaudio[3454]: alsa-util.c: Error opening PCM
device hw:
0: No such file or directory 
Nov 10 12:00:25 lapx pulseaudio[3454]: module.c: Failed to load
module "module-
alsa-source" (argument: "device_id=0
source_name=alsa_input.pci_8086_284b_sound_
card_0_alsa_capture_0"): initialization failed.

In my /etc/selinux/conf, I have 'SELINUX=disabled'.

I've set gdm and lrs (the latter is my only real user) to be members of
pulse-rt group.

What could I try to solve this problem?

Lars

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Re: Looking for a docbook example.

2008-11-10 Thread Tim Waugh
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 21:38 -0500, Steven W. Orr wrote:
> Is there such a thing as a nontrivial book that is available for free 
> online that also has the docbook src available? I'd like to learn docbook 
> and I think having an available example would be a good starting point.

A good while ago I made one that includes its own source in the
appendix, called Selfdocbook:

  http://cyberelk.net/tim/docbook/ (bottom of page)

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Re: F9: Firefox-3.0.2 browser check by "bcheck.scanit.be/bcheck"

2008-11-10 Thread Ed Greshko
Joachim Backes wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In F9, I made a firefox-3.0.2 browser check by using the site
>
> http://bcheck.scanit.be/bcheck
>
> and there was a report:
>
> "Mozilla code execution via QuickTime Media-link files - failed"
>
> Question: can somebody confirm this, and is this a known issue for
> firefox? The recommendations to solve this "problem" are rather weird:
>
> ===
> If you are running Mozilla Firefox 2 upgrade to version 2.0.0.7 or
> later. If you are running Mozilla Firefox 1.0 or 1.5 upgrade to 2.0
> branch. Firefox 1.0 and 1.5 are no longer supported by Mozilla
> Foundation.
>
> If you are using some other Mozilla-based browser, try upgrading to
> the latest available version or consult your vendor.
> 
>
> All answers are welcome.
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Re: fedora-fonts-list R.I.P?

2008-11-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Dave Feustel wrote:

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 08:30:36AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Dave Feustel wrote:


This error message was generated by Konqueror 4.1.2. When I used firefox
to access the same page, it worked. I then joined the list. A
confirmation url was sent to me via email. When I tried to access it via
Konqueror, it failed with invalid url. Then I tried Firefox and it
worked. This is typical of the errors that I have been experiencing with
Konqueror lately.

Would be useful to get some bug reports on this.


This fails 100% of the time. I'm surprised that no one else has filed a
bug report.  Where should the bug reports be filed - with kde or with
fedora project or other?


Either is fine. I think KDE bugzilla is preferred.

Rahul

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Re: chkfontpath ?

2008-11-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Simon Slater wrote:

On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 12:44 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Where's the best place to start looking / learning about fonts in
Fedora?  I need to get more for use in OOo, GIMP, Inkscape and

Scribus.

IIRC, all these apps just use fontconfig. So the method is documented
in 
the release notes. Quoting



Thanks Rahul.  Is there a centralized or preferred place to find (open
source) fonts which I can use now on F8 and then transfer to F10?  I'm
new to fonts and have been happy with default fonts for my work, but
others here want "better" or fancier fonts.  This will be another
learning curve I think.


There are a number of them already packaged (yum search fonts). It is a 
long list and we are working through it but otherwise it is pretty 
scattered.


http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/12/13/open-source-fonts/
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Font_wishlist

Rahul

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Re: fedora-fonts-list R.I.P?

2008-11-10 Thread Dave Feustel
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 08:30:36AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Dave Feustel wrote:
>
>>>
>> This error message was generated by Konqueror 4.1.2. When I used firefox
>> to access the same page, it worked. I then joined the list. A
>> confirmation url was sent to me via email. When I tried to access it via
>> Konqueror, it failed with invalid url. Then I tried Firefox and it
>> worked. This is typical of the errors that I have been experiencing with
>> Konqueror lately.
>
> Would be useful to get some bug reports on this.
>
This fails 100% of the time. I'm surprised that no one else has filed a
bug report.  Where should the bug reports be filed - with kde or with
fedora project or other?

Thanks.

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F9: Firefox-3.0.2 browser check by "bcheck.scanit.be/bcheck"

2008-11-10 Thread Joachim Backes

Hi,

In F9, I made a firefox-3.0.2 browser check by using the site

http://bcheck.scanit.be/bcheck

and there was a report:

"Mozilla code execution via QuickTime Media-link files - failed"

Question: can somebody confirm this, and is this a known issue for 
firefox? The recommendations to solve this "problem" are rather weird:


===
If you are running Mozilla Firefox 2 upgrade to version 2.0.0.7 or 
later. If you are running Mozilla Firefox 1.0 or 1.5 upgrade to 2.0 
branch. Firefox 1.0 and 1.5 are no longer supported by Mozilla Foundation.


If you are using some other Mozilla-based browser, try upgrading to the 
latest available version or consult your vendor.



All answers are welcome.

Reagrds

Joachim Backes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



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Re: CUPS, Alpine, and printserving

2008-11-10 Thread Tim
Tim:
>> If desperate, one could go into /etc/cups/ and remove the entries for
>> particular printers.  I'm not sure how it handles missing files, but you
>> could load the file and remove all the configuration data, leaving just
>> the two comment lines at the top of printers.conf.

Beartooth:
> Would you believe that's what it shows now? Yet both Firefox and 
> Opera insist on showing three.

Yes, printers.conf shows "local" printers.  I'm betting that the
printers showing up in your browsers are not local ones, but ones on
another PC and available over the network.

> I tried using Hbsk and Hbsk.localdomain (which is what uname shows for
> this machine) on Opera, but it failed to connect, though I saw it try
> 127.0.0.1

Tried using them for what?

127.0.0.1 is computer speak for myself, network-wise.  All computers
connect to themselves at 127.0.0.1.  By convention, "localhost" is
related to that IP.  And by a Linux convention, "localhost.localdomain"
is, as well (most likely to satisfy things that want a domain name with
at least one dot in it).

Whereas other hostnames are generally applied to other network
interfaces, and some services may not listen to them by default, for
security reasons, so that they can't be messed with by others over your
network.

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Re: chkfontpath ?

2008-11-10 Thread Simon Slater

On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 12:44 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > Where's the best place to start looking / learning about fonts in
> > Fedora?  I need to get more for use in OOo, GIMP, Inkscape and
> Scribus.
> 
> IIRC, all these apps just use fontconfig. So the method is documented
> in 
> the release notes. Quoting
> 
Thanks Rahul.  Is there a centralized or preferred place to find (open
source) fonts which I can use now on F8 and then transfer to F10?  I'm
new to fonts and have been happy with default fonts for my work, but
others here want "better" or fancier fonts.  This will be another
learning curve I think.

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