Re: Workaround for Ksynaptics. (Was preventing people from making a mistake)
On Tuesday 09 December 2008 02:45:22 Kevin Kofler wrote: Well, ask those who disabled SHMConfig by default, they know the details, I don't. OK - maybe one of those will see this query and respond. Meanwhile, here's a snippet from an Asus computer company forum: *** Matthew Garrett wrote on 2006-03-30: Re: synaptics should default to Option SHMConfig on (permalink) No it shouldn't. It's a security risk. Nicolò Chieffo wrote on 2006-03-30: (permalink) why a security risk? Matthew Garrett wrote on 2006-03-30: (permalink) Because there's no authentication mechanism for it. Nicolò Chieffo wrote on 2006-03-30: (permalink) do you mean that any user can launch a command to modify touchpad settings, even if he doen's have an active X session? Matthew Garrett wrote on 2006-03-30: (permalink) Yes. If that's the end-all and be-all of it, it doesn't strike me as so 'massive' a security risk, as I've seen the security hole described in some places...but, maybe I'm missing the obvious -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 kickstart install ignoring updates repository
Peter Schwenk wrote: Yep, I added a repo line for it in my kickstart file. The console message shows that it looked at the repo but ignored it because it considered it to be a duplicate. My install repo and the updates repo certainly aren't the same, but something makes the install think it is. Is this a local repo? Have you run createpo -d tagainst the repo to make sure that the metadata reflects the content? Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fglrx
David Hláčik wrote: Hi guys, is this ATI driver working in Fedora 10? Yes, but setup is rather tricky. You have to create the /dev/dri device files manually. --Russell -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 + Intel 945 poor GL performance
On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Brian Mury wrote: - switching to a console (such as Ctrl-Alt-F2) and back makes OpenGL switch from hardware rendering to software rendering (this is the most reproducible issue - it always happens - the next two I cannot reproduce on demand, but seem to happen at random) Without Compiz running, glxgears reports 319fps (I have no idea if that's good or bad - I thought Fedora 8 used to give me a much higher number but I no longer have it installed to test with). Seems to stay the same after switching to a console and back again. When running Compiz (without glxgears), switching to a console and back again causes Xorg to give me a black screen with a mouse pointer. After about 20 seconds the desktop reappears. I thought this might be related to waiting for a VSync so I told Compiz not to wait for a VSync - no difference. - sometimes, when switching to a console, instead of the console I see a what looks like a corrupted copy of my desktop (though I cannot interact with it at all). Switching back to the desktop is fine, but the consoles all seem to stay that way until I reboot. I haven't seen this problem, although I don't switch to consoles that often. - occasionally, X dies completely - my screen goes black, and several seconds latter the gdm login screen comes up. When trying to resume from suspend or hibernate, my machine sits on a black Xorg screen for a long time (black screen but with a movable mouse pointer). Sometimes it eventually recovers after several minutes, frequently it doesn't recover at all and I have to powercycle the machine. and yep, I do seem to be missing a xorg.conf, odd that I didn't notice that before. I understand that we're no longer supposed to have an xorg.conf for normal systems. Personally I think this is a really bad decision if only because there is now no template xorg.conf there to edit when I need to add a custom option. - Steve xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nexusuk.org/ Servatis a periculum, servatis a maleficum - Whisper, Evanescence -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Nautilus doesn't start
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:03 AM, Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suddenly when I open a session I get: [...] Don't cross-post. You sent this to two different lists. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Nautilus doesn't start
2008/12/9 Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:03 AM, Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suddenly when I open a session I get: [...] Don't cross-post. You sent this to two different lists. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines I have same issue on F10 and rawhidehow do you reach both communities?? -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 kickstart install ignoring updates repository
On Dec 9, 2008, at 9:54 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Peter Schwenk wrote: Yep, I added a repo line for it in my kickstart file. The console message shows that it looked at the repo but ignored it because it considered it to be a duplicate. My install repo and the updates repo certainly aren't the same, but something makes the install think it is. Is this a local repo? Have you run createpo -d tagainst the repo to make sure that the metadata reflects the content? Rahul No, I haven't. I just rsynced it from a mirror and went on my merry way. The repo is being housed on one of my Mac servers, so I'll need to figure out how to do a createpo -d (is that a typo?) on it. Perhaps I'll need to mount it on an F10 box and run it from there. -- Peter Schwenk Campus IT Associate 3 Mathematical Sciences University of Delaware Newark, DE 19716-2553 schwenk _at_ math _dot_ udel _dot_ edu http://www.math.udel.edu/~schwenk (302) 831-0437 (v) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some people mis interpret Fedora's Mission Statement.
Timothy Murphy wrote: Isn't that what is meant by pressure from above? I don't see how having more resources alloted to something counts as pressure from above. Let's say I prefer fluxbox or Xfce. Should I feel pressure because more resources go into other desktop environments? I don't think so. I am quite comfortable with that. Surely the main determinant should be what users want? Product decisions are much more complex than that. In many cases, users just say - I dont care about the desktop environment. Just let my ISV apps work and give me x,y and z functionality. Going beyond just linux specific technical mailings will give you a completely different picture. My strong impression from reading the newsgroups is that a large majority of enthusiasts are using KDE, despite the fact that this is not the default. I have no idea. We cannot rely on mere impressions for making such decisions and I know of no hard public hard data. Enthusiasm doesn't determine how many people work on something full time. Paying customers do. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Live CD without CD?
2008/12/9 Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kevin Kofler wrote: stan wrote: title Fedora 7 install root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-f7-install askmethod initrd /initrd-f7-install.img That's for the installer, not the Live CD. So is it actually possible to boot from the hard disk, using the Live CD ISO file? I'd say 'No' simply because its not been tested but grab yourself a spare partition and try some tests :-) it woud go something like: label and format a blank partition set boot flag umount. live-iso-to-disk isopath /dev/partition set grub to chainload this new partition. Thats the theory the practice makes perfect :-) disclaimer: many kittens may get hurt. ...dex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Accidently Removed Add/Remove Programs
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 07:06 +0100, merogringo wrote: Because of a recent issue with the DBUS, and attempting to get to install software point and click way, and without thinking about it, I accidently removed the Add/Remove Software from System Administration panel. I would really like to restore this if at all possible. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Fedora Core 10 I don't know wheter this works in F10 but System-Preferences-Lookand Feel-Main Menu might help. -- === I've been on a diet for two weeks and all I've lost is two weeks. -- Totie Fields === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
strigi is a pig
I hadn't tried turning on strigi before. I fired it up on my 2-core machine. It is running 180% load ave. Shouldn't it be a bit more friendly? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Accidently Removed Add/Remove Programs
I tried everything you just mentioned... So I tried to yum install it. That didn't work. I got an error for: Error: Missing Dependency: libpackagekit-glib.so.10 is needed by package gnome-packagekit-0.3.9-8.fc10.i386 (fedora) So, I tried to install the following which contains that file: Package matching PackageKit-glib-0.3.9-4.fc10.i386 already installed. Checking for update. Now, I could just download libpackagekit-glib.so.10, but I wouldn't know where to put it. Is there a way to refresh a package? -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.org https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=310369topic_id=65176forum=10#forumpost310369 If you think, this is spam, please report this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and/or blame [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Nautilus doesn't start
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/12/9 Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:03 AM, Antonio M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suddenly when I open a session I get: [...] Don't cross-post. You sent this to two different lists. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines I have same issue on F10 and rawhidehow do you reach both communities?? I spoke too soon (I assumed there was a guideline that frowned on crossposting but I was mistaken). Apologies. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Experience with x86_64-only (no i386) in F10?
2008/12/9 Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:52 AM, Niels Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All 32bit binary programs you want to run will not work. I think you mean not all 32-bit programs you want to run will work. All dynamically linked 32bit programs will not work. Is that better? Niels -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Today's F10 update finishes with error
At the end of the cleanup phase of yum update with today's updates, I see the following error: ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.207:/org/freedesktop/PackageKit: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name (unset) destination :1.207) === Leaving rpm code === Then I get the final status messages. Not sure if there's any damage as a result. The rest of the update appears to finish normally. Any idea what that's about? TIA. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 kickstart install ignoring updates repository
On Dec 9, 2008, at 9:54 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Peter Schwenk wrote: Yep, I added a repo line for it in my kickstart file. The console message shows that it looked at the repo but ignored it because it considered it to be a duplicate. My install repo and the updates repo certainly aren't the same, but something makes the install think it is. Is this a local repo? Have you run createpo -d tagainst the repo to make sure that the metadata reflects the content? Rahul I mounted my updates repository (rsynced from a mirror, btw) and ran 'createrepo' on it, and an install still ignores it. I have a machine sharing the repo via http, and my repo line in my kickstart file looks like: repo --name=updates --baseurl=http://name.of.machine/fc10_patches/i386 My install source is a locally-shared (via NFS) copy of an Everything repository that I rsynced (I rsynced the Packages and repodata directories) from one of the mirrors. I wanted the Everything because it's got packages that I need that aren't part of the install DVD. I'd like to have my kickstart installs already updated via an updates repository. This worked fine with F8 kickstart installs. -- Peter Schwenk Campus IT Associate 3 Mathematical Sciences University of Delaware Newark, DE 19716-2553 schwenk _at_ math _dot_ udel _dot_ edu http://www.math.udel.edu/~schwenk (302) 831-0437 (v) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to get rid of selinux
Daniel J Walsh wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 gab_v wrote: Dear all, I have a Fedora 9 distr. I've lot of problem with SELinux, so I want to know how to get rid of it. In particular I am interested NOT in make SELinux status Disabled but to uninstall it. I am not sure how to do it, also because I just started working with Linux OS. How can I do? I was thinking about doing rpm -qa |grep SELinux and then rpm -e ... But will it be enough? I want to do very safe commands since I need the computer at work. Thanks in advance p.s. I said not how to disabled SELinux because I did it once and I did not solve the problem and, after that, I had a block at boot process. libselinux is a core library of the Fedora System and some other Linux Distributes, it can not be removed. Policycoreutils includes restorecon command which has been required by several other packages, so it can not be removed either. You should be able to remove other selinux packages. yum remove selinux-poliycy This is a very bad idea, and it uninstalls policycoreutils-gui too: I tried it, but afterwards, system-config-services did no more run as non-root-user, but failed with an flood of error messages. And the gnome menu System-Administration-Services no more runs as non-root-user. These problems still appear even after reinstalling selinux-policy (and policycoreutils-gui): system-config-services ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.51:/org/fedoraproject/Config/Services/ServiceHerders/SysVServiceHerder: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name (unset) destination :1.51) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/system-config-services, line 945, in module GUI (use_dbus = use_dbus).run () File /usr/bin/system-config-services, line 900, in __init__ self.serviceherders.append (cls (bus = self._bus)) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/scservices/dbus/proxy/serviceherders.py, line 53, in __init__ for service_name in self.list_services (): File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/slip/dbus/polkit.py, line 48, in enable_proxy_wrapper return func (*p, **k) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/scservices/dbus/proxy/serviceherders.py, line 66, in list_services return self.dbus_object.list_services (dbus_interface = org.fedoraproject.Config.Services.ServiceHerder) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 68, in __call__ return self._proxy_method(*args, **keywords) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 140, in __call__ **keywords) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 630, in call_blocking message, timeout) dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.fedoraproject.Config.Services.ServiceHerder member list_services error name (unset) destination :1.51) Joachim Backes [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: strigi is a pig
Neal Becker wrote: I hadn't tried turning on strigi before. I fired it up on my 2-core machine. It is running 180% load ave. Shouldn't it be a bit more friendly? atm, it's just plain bad. best advice atm is to not use the strigidaemon directly. (There's a good reason it's not installed by default) -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F-9 to F-10 preupgrade is rather mean
Timothy Murphy wrote: David Timms wrote: I noticed that the preupgrade install carefully removed all F-9 boot material - not only vmlinuz and initrd, but also the /lib/modules/ files. Yeah, I noticed that too. Lucky for me, preupgrade from F9 to F10 worked and I don't need that stuff anymore. Unless something was changed recently, the idea is that pre-upgrade simply retrieves the minimal rpms needed to upgrade a specific system, then adds an additional grub boot item for upgrade. It looks to me that preupgrade downloaded *every* RPM it needed to install, created the necessary repo metadata for the downloaded RPMs, then rebooted into it version of anaconda to do the actual install using a kickstart file it created, which is a good thing since it was unable to create a working X11 session during this reboot for me. When it attempted to switch to the graphical installer, it started an X11 session, but my screen remained blank because it was unable to figure out that the monitor can only support 1024x768i, not 1024x768 (the monitor has no DDC information, its that old). However, the install continued. I could watch the system logs and kinda tell that *something* was happening. I went to bed at 2AM (2 hours after it started), and returned to a working (yes, X11 too, at 800x600) system the next morning. The logs show it took 5 hours to complete the installation on that very old K6-2 system. This is one instance where I'm happy that preupgrade used the kickstart method. When you reboot and choose upgrade, essentially a normal anaconda based upgrade occurs, with the same questions you'd normally get, and the same result. preupgrade is not a normal anaconda session. I was not asked any questions when I re-booted after running preupgrade. The system immediately launched into an enormous updating saga. Normally, if I do a clean install I am asked if I want to format /boot or leave it as it is. I always choose the latter. This leaves old kernels in place, though it does remove reference to them from grub.conf, IIRC. preupgrade is an update not a fresh install. Its tries not to modify your current settings, that would include partitions and old configurations. However, it leaves the old grub.conf as grub.conf.rpmsave , and it is easy to merge the two. No need if the installation succeeds. I'm not sure what it does if it encounters problems and does not succeed. /lib/modules comes from the kernel, so I would expect to only have modules for the most recent installed kernel in there after the upgrade. I have noticed during install/upgrade that kernel install occurs 80% into the process; did your install finish normally ? Yes, everything seemed to end normally. But you seem to be saying that what did occur is what should have occurred. I'm saying that it doesn't occur with a clean install; the old system (vmlinuz, initrd and /lib/modules) is left in place. Only the preupgrade person can tell you what *should* have happened. S/he's the person who implemented the design. -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to get rid of selinux
Joachim Backes wrote: Daniel J Walsh wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 gab_v wrote: Dear all, I have a Fedora 9 distr. I've lot of problem with SELinux, so I want to know how to get rid of it. In particular I am interested NOT in make SELinux status Disabled but to uninstall it. I am not sure how to do it, also because I just started working with Linux OS. How can I do? I was thinking about doing rpm -qa |grep SELinux and then rpm -e ... But will it be enough? I want to do very safe commands since I need the computer at work. Thanks in advance p.s. I said not how to disabled SELinux because I did it once and I did not solve the problem and, after that, I had a block at boot process. libselinux is a core library of the Fedora System and some other Linux Distributes, it can not be removed. Policycoreutils includes restorecon command which has been required by several other packages, so it can not be removed either. You should be able to remove other selinux packages. yum remove selinux-poliycy This is a very bad idea, and it uninstalls policycoreutils-gui too: I tried it, but afterwards, system-config-services did no more run as non-root-user, but failed with an flood of error messages. And the gnome menu System-Administration-Services no more runs as non-root-user. These problems still appear even after reinstalling selinux-policy (and policycoreutils-gui): system-config-services ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.51:/org/fedoraproject/Config/Services/ServiceHerders/SysVServiceHerder: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name (unset) destination :1.51) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/system-config-services, line 945, in module GUI (use_dbus = use_dbus).run () File /usr/bin/system-config-services, line 900, in __init__ self.serviceherders.append (cls (bus = self._bus)) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/scservices/dbus/proxy/serviceherders.py, line 53, in __init__ for service_name in self.list_services (): File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/slip/dbus/polkit.py, line 48, in enable_proxy_wrapper return func (*p, **k) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/scservices/dbus/proxy/serviceherders.py, line 66, in list_services return self.dbus_object.list_services (dbus_interface = org.fedoraproject.Config.Services.ServiceHerder) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 68, in __call__ return self._proxy_method(*args, **keywords) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 140, in __call__ **keywords) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 630, in call_blocking message, timeout) dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.fedoraproject.Config.Services.ServiceHerder member list_services error name (unset) destination :1.51) Joachim Backes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I could solvis the problem by replacing /etc/dbus-1/system.conf by a backupped version I made before removing selinux-policy. Joachim Backes [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Missing Dependency: libpackagekit-glib.so.10
2008/12/9 Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I also am having problems with FC10 update and packagekit dependencies and I don't use anything but fedora, rpmfusion, and livna repos. Yes. It has nothing to do with third-party repos. It was an inconsistent set of updates that were pushed to the Fedora updates repo. The problem will clear when the corrected RPMs get pushed to the repos in the next couple of days. Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 kickstart install ignoring updates repository
On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Peter Schwenk wrote: On Dec 9, 2008, at 9:54 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Peter Schwenk wrote: Yep, I added a repo line for it in my kickstart file. The console message shows that it looked at the repo but ignored it because it considered it to be a duplicate. My install repo and the updates repo certainly aren't the same, but something makes the install think it is. Is this a local repo? Have you run createpo -d tagainst the repo to make sure that the metadata reflects the content? Rahul I mounted my updates repository (rsynced from a mirror, btw) and ran 'createrepo' on it, and an install still ignores it. I have a machine sharing the repo via http, and my repo line in my kickstart file looks like: repo --name=updates --baseurl=http://name.of.machine/fc10_patches/i386 My install source is a locally-shared (via NFS) copy of an Everything repository that I rsynced (I rsynced the Packages and repodata directories) from one of the mirrors. I wanted the Everything because it's got packages that I need that aren't part of the install DVD. I'd like to have my kickstart installs already updated via an updates repository. This worked fine with F8 kickstart installs. If i take out the repo line for my local updates repository and replace it with: repo --name=updates --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-released-f10arch=i386 to use a random public mirror, I still get an ignoring duplicate repository updates with URL http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-released-f10arch=i386 in the console messages. After the install is finished and I do a yum -y update, there are gobs of updates that get applied. So, it doesn't seem possible to get a clean, updated kickstart install for some reason. -- Peter Schwenk Campus IT Associate 3 Mathematical Sciences University of Delaware Newark, DE 19716-2553 schwenk _at_ math _dot_ udel _dot_ edu http://www.math.udel.edu/~schwenk (302) 831-0437 (v) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 kickstart install ignoring updates repository
2008/12/9 Peter Schwenk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: repo --name=updates --baseurl=http://name.of.machine/fc10_patches/i386; The only thing I can think of is try renaming your repo and watch the logs again: repo --name=my-updates --baseurl=http://name.of.machine/fc10_patches/i386 ...dex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to get rid of selinux
Joachim Backes wrote: Daniel J Walsh wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 gab_v wrote: Dear all, I have a Fedora 9 distr. I've lot of problem with SELinux, so I want to know how to get rid of it. In particular I am interested NOT in make SELinux status Disabled but to uninstall it. I am not sure how to do it, also because I just started working with Linux OS. How can I do? I was thinking about doing rpm -qa |grep SELinux and then rpm -e ... But will it be enough? I want to do very safe commands since I need the computer at work. Thanks in advance p.s. I said not how to disabled SELinux because I did it once and I did not solve the problem and, after that, I had a block at boot process. libselinux is a core library of the Fedora System and some other Linux Distributes, it can not be removed. Policycoreutils includes restorecon command which has been required by several other packages, so it can not be removed either. You should be able to remove other selinux packages. yum remove selinux-poliycy This is a very bad idea, and it uninstalls policycoreutils-gui too: I tried it, but afterwards, system-config-services did no more run as non-root-user, but failed with an flood of error messages. And the gnome menu System-Administration-Services no more runs as non-root-user. These problems still appear even after reinstalling selinux-policy (and policycoreutils-gui): system-config-services ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.51:/org/fedoraproject/Config/Services/ServiceHerders/SysVServiceHerder: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name (unset) destination :1.51) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/system-config-services, line 945, in module GUI (use_dbus = use_dbus).run () File /usr/bin/system-config-services, line 900, in __init__ self.serviceherders.append (cls (bus = self._bus)) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/scservices/dbus/proxy/serviceherders.py, line 53, in __init__ for service_name in self.list_services (): File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/slip/dbus/polkit.py, line 48, in enable_proxy_wrapper return func (*p, **k) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/scservices/dbus/proxy/serviceherders.py, line 66, in list_services return self.dbus_object.list_services (dbus_interface = org.fedoraproject.Config.Services.ServiceHerder) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 68, in __call__ return self._proxy_method(*args, **keywords) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 140, in __call__ **keywords) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 630, in call_blocking message, timeout) dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.fedoraproject.Config.Services.ServiceHerder member list_services error name (unset) destination :1.51) Joachim Backes [EMAIL PROTECTED] I could solve this described problem by replacing /etc/dbus-1/system.conf by a backupped version of this file. Joachim Backes [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Today's F10 update finishes with error
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:40:19 -0500 Matthew Saltzman wrote: At the end of the cleanup phase of yum update with today's updates, I see the following error: ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.207:/org/freedesktop/PackageKit: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name (unset) destination :1.207) === Leaving rpm code === Then I get the final status messages. Not sure if there's any damage as a result. The rest of the update appears to finish normally. Any idea what that's about? TIA. I got the same message, and agree with you that It's about the most confusing error message I've seen since win3 days. My guess is that the author flunked out of the Sarah Palin School of Composition. I think I'll stick with yum and yumex for a while longer. -- cmg -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Today's F10 update finishes with error
On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 11:15:07AM -0500, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:40:19 -0500 Matthew Saltzman wrote: At the end of the cleanup phase of yum update with today's updates, I see the following error: ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.207:/org/freedesktop/PackageKit: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name (unset) destination :1.207) === Leaving rpm code === Then I get the final status messages. Not sure if there's any damage as a result. The rest of the update appears to finish normally. Any idea what that's about? TIA. I got the same message, and agree with you that It's about the most confusing error message I've seen since win3 days. My guess is that the author flunked out of the Sarah Palin School of Composition. I think I'll stick with yum and yumex for a while longer. As reported elsewhere, there's a problem with a set of packages that went into updates. Another set of updates is coming that will fix the problem, as well as a lot of discussion about how to make sure this doesn't happen again. Details are elsewhere on this list if needed. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpPVgTeRAGtb.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: asus w5f Intel sound on Fedora 10
On Tuesday 09 December 2008 15:47, sfilippo wrote: Hi there, I would really appreciate any help on the following issue. I own an ASUS W5F with an Intel motherboard, the output from lspci is below. The computer has had both Fedora 6 and Fedora 7 working; since Fedora 8 I tried upgrading and/or fresh install (in a separate partition) and/or live CD for FC8, FC9 and FC10 but I cannot get the sound subsystem to work. The closest I can get (today) is the gnome-sound-properties to open and show the test-sound pipeline progress bar working, but no sound in the earphones. This cannot possibly be a hardware problem because sound works OK under FC7. I tried many of the hints given on pulseaudio/alsa, but could not get things to work. The maddening thing is that I didn't have to do anything at all to have it working under FC7, it just run out of the box. More annoying is that under FC10 the wifi card works with the default distribution, which it didn't do under F7. S, what's so special about this machine that gets forgotten by subsequent releases Any info needed to try to debug? As I said, I normally work from the FC7 partition, so comparing the two configurations is a very easy task. Help, please ?? Salvatore [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] ~]$ /sbin/lspci 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G Ola Salvatore. As this only happened since F8, I'd suspect Pulseaudio, and I did have problems with Pulseaudio with F8 on one machine. No sounds, but as soon as I disabled Pulseaudio, the sounds came back. To disable it, simply remove the package, alsa-plugins-pulseaudio. yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio With the package above still installed, open alsamixer in a terminal as user. You will only see one slider, the pulseaudio one. Open alsamixer as below, and you will see all controls available for the soundcard. alsamixer -D hw:0 There may be something that is now muted since F8, and needs to be unmuted (the M key toggles the mute/unmute). Left, and right arrow keys for scrolling through the controls. Some may need to be pushed up. The usual ones are, Master, PCM, Front, CD, if they exist. If a switch (external amplifier, or external speaker) exists, try toggling that, while some audio app is playing something. Would you post the output from the following commands please. cat /proc/asound/cards grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec* /sbin/lsmod | grep snd All the best. Nigel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Missing Dependency: libpackagekit-glib.so.10
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 16:03 +, Dave Cross wrote: The problem will clear when the corrected RPMs get pushed to the repos in the next couple of days. Just waiting to be pushed: http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/PackageKit-0.3.12-1.fc10,gnome-packagekit-0.3.12-1.fc10,kpackagekit-0.3.1-9.fc10 Richard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora Architecture Questions
Hello All, This is my first post so please ignore the formatting. I have server questions about the Fedora 10 architecture that I will list below this message. I am need to present a brief presentation to my Operating Systems class involving various components of the OS. I have spent the past few days researching the web including multiple Fedora project websites and online databases and found nothing. If anyone is able to give me some simple answers or even relevant information or sources would be wonderful. -CPU Scheduling algorithms used by Fedora -Techniques used by Fedora for message passing between process/threads -Techniques for Shared Memory -Process Synchronization techniques supported by Fedora -Methods of dealing with deadlocks -What languages was used to design the OS -What API do application developers uses (is it posix) -Implementation structure (modular, layered...) If anyone else thinks of a related question like this that feels it may be useful to me please post it and its answer. Thank you so much for the help! Michael -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Experience with x86_64-only (no i386) in F10?
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Niels Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/12/9 Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:52 AM, Niels Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All 32bit binary programs you want to run will not work. I think you mean not all 32-bit programs you want to run will work. All dynamically linked 32bit programs will not work. Is that better? That depends on what you mean. You're saying that no dynamically-linked 32-bit program will work. If you mean that some will and some won't, then that's not what you're saying. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 kickstart install ignoring updates repository
On Dec 9, 2008, at 11:06 AM, dexter wrote: 2008/12/9 Peter Schwenk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: repo --name=updates --baseurl=http://name.of.machine/fc10_patches/i386 The only thing I can think of is try renaming your repo and watch the logs again: repo --name=my-updates --baseurl=http://name.of.machine/fc10_patches/i386 ...dex Ugh. That was it. The stupid name conflicted. Sorry, I should have tried that, but with my F8 kickstart installs, the same name doesn't collide with anything. -- Peter Schwenk Campus IT Associate 3 Mathematical Sciences University of Delaware Newark, DE 19716-2553 schwenk _at_ math _dot_ udel _dot_ edu http://www.math.udel.edu/~schwenk (302) 831-0437 (v) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some people mis interpret Fedora's Mission Statement.
Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 09:49 -0700, stan wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: but you don't want to do the work to get it there. In other words, you want to direct the work of those who do the work. Hey, you have a great future in management waiting for you. :-) Pardon, but you probably can relate why I find your tone offensive. Actually, I can't. I was offering what I consider to be an honest statement of the situation. It wasn't meant to be offensive. Just to offer a differenct perspective on the issue. Perhaps you have a negative connotation for managers. Any enterprise beyond a certain complexity requires managers. They coordinate the moving parts. They have a bad rap because most of them are mediocre. That doesn't make the manager unnecessary or belittle their contribution. Management is essential and the skill to be a good manager is rare. Now, it is good that you care enough about Fedora to offer suggestions, but if you don't help implement those suggestions you shouldn't be offended or angry if they aren't followed. What do you want me to do? To get involved into SELinux, NetworkManager, PulseAudio, gnome-session, evolution, ... just to mention a few of the packages which I consider to be prematurely integrated into Fedora? If you have the ability and inclination, certainly get involved in a package. But it is not the packages that drive fedora, it is the packagers. They are the de facto managers of this system because they decide what it will consist of. If you want to change things, that is the place to apply yourself. Become a packager, or just attend the meetings / conversations that decide the direction fedora will take and contribute. Turn your dissatisfaction into impetus for change. You are already doing that by complaining here, but it would be more effective to do it as part of the organization. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some people mis interpret Fedora's Mission Statement.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: My strong impression from reading the newsgroups is that a large majority of enthusiasts are using KDE, despite the fact that this is not the default. I have no idea. We cannot rely on mere impressions for making such decisions and I know of no hard public hard data. Enthusiasm doesn't determine how many people work on something full time. Paying customers do. Rahul It has to be kept in mind that people who are satisfied with something rarely express their satisfaction avidly. This means that those with a problem or issue or desire to see something change will predominate the converstation on a list such as this. Would smolt be a reasonable place to consider mining for data on the distribution of use is on the various DMs? Doesn't it report the active DM? Or, if not, should it? ~~R -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Clarification of statement about stateless sytem
In section 2.2.6 of the F10 release notes is the following statement: Support for keeping a persistent /home with the rest of the system stateless has been added for Fedora 10. I don't understand that statement? Could someone explain it, especially the meaning of the words persistent and stateless in that context. -- === Blessed be those who initiate lively discussions with the hopelessly mute, for they shall be known as Dentists. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Preupgrade/Anaconda problem - 3rd time a charm?
I've posted this question twice before but have not received any replies. I want to use preupgrade to go from F8 to F9. I ran preupgrade, selected F9 and downloaded the data. When I rebooted to complete the process, Anaconda started, correctly detected my graphics card and started X. Unfortunately, Anaconda used the wrong setting for my monitor which results in a blank screen with a Out of Range message. I can CtrlAltF1,2,3,4 to see the various messages and logs but I can see nothing on CtrlAltF7. Q1. Where does Anaconda get the settings for the video card from? Q2. Can I tell Anaconda to use the existing xorg.conf file? Q3. Can I tell Anaconda to run in text mode? Any other suggestions? My only other option appears to be to download an F9 respin and burn a DVD. Thanks, Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 kickstart install ignoring updates repository
2008/12/9 Peter Schwenk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ugh. That was it. The stupid name conflicted. Sorry, I should have tried that, but with my F8 kickstart installs, the same name doesn't collide with anything. Yes I seem to remember the words updates, updates-testing etc have special meaning to kickstart / livecd-tools. ...dex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Odd yum warning (error?) with FC10
Tim wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 10:59 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Since the packages are being updated, I'm somewhat dubious that an out-of-date repo is the cause here. Does your computer clock go out of whack from time to time? If your clock had gone into the future when you did an update, that might cause your local cached data to seem newer than later attempts. No, I have no clock issues, on the rare occasion of a reboot the system always comes up within a sec or two of the time standard. I have a level 4 NTP server behind the firewall, just to avoid time issues. I think it's more subtle than that, and wouldn't produce the same exact times on two machines in any case. Must be local, but I have no idea what, and now I have another F10 install which works fine, so two fine, two warning but updating. Most odd. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Preupgrade/Anaconda problem - 3rd time a charm?
Steve Blackwell wrote: I've posted this question twice before but have not received any replies. I want to use preupgrade to go from F8 to F9. I ran preupgrade, selected F9 and downloaded the data. When I rebooted to complete the process, Anaconda started, correctly detected my graphics card and started X. Unfortunately, Anaconda used the wrong setting for my monitor which results in a blank screen with a Out of Range message. I can CtrlAltF1,2,3,4 to see the various messages and logs but I can see nothing on CtrlAltF7. I had the same experience on my F9-F10 preupgrade. Q1. Where does Anaconda get the settings for the video card from? I believe that X11 is trying to guess everything. Q2. Can I tell Anaconda to use the existing xorg.conf file? I don't think you can, but maybe you can file an RFE? Q3. Can I tell Anaconda to run in text mode? Another possible RFE? Any other suggestions? My only other option appears to be to download an F9 respin and burn a DVD. preupgrade creates a kickstart file. I don't know very much about them (other than they exist). Is it possible to put something in there to either have it use your xorg.conf or have it come up in text mode only? Thanks, Steve -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Today's F10 update finishes with error
Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:40:19 -0500 Matthew Saltzman wrote: At the end of the cleanup phase of yum update with today's updates, I see the following error: ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.207:/org/freedesktop/PackageKit: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name (unset) destination :1.207) === Leaving rpm code === Then I get the final status messages. Not sure if there's any damage as a result. The rest of the update appears to finish normally. Any idea what that's about? TIA. I got the same message, and agree with you that It's about the most confusing error message I've seen since win3 days. My guess is that the author flunked out of the Sarah Palin School of Composition. I think I'll stick with yum and yumex for a while longer. Just another package released without testing on a machine with SElinux? -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f9 FireFox and Sound.
Assuming we're talking about flash, maybe try this: Thanks, but I already have libflashsupport installed. Any other thoughts? Anyone? -- Reg.Clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some people mis interpret Fedora's Mission Statement.
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:55:03 -0600 (CST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has to be kept in mind that people who are satisfied with something rarely express their satisfaction avidly. This means that those with a problem or issue or desire to see something change will predominate the converstation on a list such as this. This list is, possibly, the worst place to provide feedback. The public colloquys cause positions to harden. Anything that stimulates people to defend a point of view becomes a disincentive to critical thinking. - Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda http://www.tips-Q.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fglrx
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 07:06 -0800, Russell Miller wrote: David Hláčik wrote: Hi guys, is this ATI driver working in Fedora 10? Yes, but setup is rather tricky. You have to create the /dev/dri device files manually. Is there a how-to or instruction guide somewhere on this we can get to? Cheers, Chris -- == Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f9 FireFox and Sound.
Actually I didnt answer the question asked. Yes this has to do with FLASH, but its more than that. I dont have any sound at all on f9. On fc6 sound works for everything that generates sound. -- Reg.Clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora Architecture Questions
If you are going to use very long lines in your messages you should set your email client to set the format=flowed parameter to content type so that things look reasonable when other people read the. On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 08:41:19 -0800, Michael Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, This is my first post so please ignore the formatting. I have server questions about the Fedora 10 architecture that I will list below this message. I am need to present a brief presentation to my Operating Systems class involving various components of the OS. I have spent the past few days researching the web including multiple Fedora project websites and online databases and found nothing. If anyone is able to give me some simple answers or even relevant information or sources would be wonderful. -CPU Scheduling algorithms used by Fedora You should look at the linux kernel for that information. Fedora uses pretty up to date kernels in case that matters as the scheduler changes from time to time. -Techniques used by Fedora for message passing between process/threads That's app specific. -Techniques for Shared Memory What are you looking for here? Shared libraries, process communication, something else. There are a few things (e.g. postgres) that used shared memory for process communication. Shared executable code for libraries is the default. -Process Synchronization techniques supported by Fedora This is app specific. In the kernel things are moving toward using RCU. -Methods of dealing with deadlocks This is app specific. -What languages was used to design the OS Linux (the kernel) is mostly writen in c with some assembler. It uses some gcc extensions that are not supported by all c compliers. If by OS you mean the software environment provided, than lots of different languages are used. -What API do application developers uses (is it posix) It depends on the app. Posix is one set of apis. -Implementation structure (modular, layered...) This is app specific. The kernel has modules but is not really modular. If anyone else thinks of a related question like this that feels it may be useful to me please post it and its answer. Thank you so much for the help! It sounds like you might really be more interested in the linux kernel and reading up on that may be more helpful to you. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora Architecture Questions
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Michael Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, This is my first post so please ignore the formatting. I have server questions about the Fedora 10 architecture that I will list below this message. I am need to present a brief presentation to my Operating Systems class involving various components of the OS. I have spent the past few days researching the web including multiple Fedora project websites and online databases and found nothing. If anyone is able to give me some simple answers or even relevant information or sources would be wonderful. -CPU Scheduling algorithms used by Fedora -Techniques used by Fedora for message passing between process/threads -Techniques for Shared Memory -Process Synchronization techniques supported by Fedora -Methods of dealing with deadlocks -What languages was used to design the OS -What API do application developers uses (is it posix) -Implementation structure (modular, layered...) If anyone else thinks of a related question like this that feels it may be useful to me please post it and its answer. Thank you so much for the help! Those are questions about Linux, not specifically about Fedora. You'd probably have better luck doing your research on the Linux kernel, as -- to a first approximation -- Fedora is simply a distro that packages the kernel with a lot of other stuff which doesn't affect your research. There is a wealth of material on Linux kernel design out there, including several books and a huge amount of mailing-list stuff (which you would probably drown in). poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Preupgrade/Anaconda problem - 3rd time a charm?
Steve Blackwell wrote: Q1. Where does Anaconda get the settings for the video card from? From Xorg which gets it from HAL Q2. Can I tell Anaconda to use the existing xorg.conf file? Don't think so. If it doesn't get auto detected properly, it is better to report the problem and get it fixed. Q3. Can I tell Anaconda to run in text mode? Yep. Refer http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Options Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 and Pulseaudio
Niels Weber wrote: Hi all, what is the state of Pulseaudio in F10? It works out of the box on over the half the installs as long as you have a single well known soundcard. The documentation is incomplete, there are a number of mixers and switches which interact in poorly-defined ways, and the interaction between alsa and PA is somewhat hardware dependent. If you are a guru able to figure it out from the source code and really need to mix multiple sources, it works well. On my previous installation (F8) I disabled PA after a short test as there where to many problems with it. On my fresh install of F10 I have it currently enabled, thinking that it should be more mature by now. You probably want to take it out totally if you disable it. At first it had the wrong soundcard as a default device, this was easily changed and is no real bug (although perhaps the installer should ask which soundcard should be used if there is more than one). Rhythmbox and mplayer now have sound (but only stereo instead of 5.1 it seems), so that's fine. Yes, the nice driver GUI which left you select the mode is long gone. I had it in FC[456] and not since. I saw a post saying you can still do that, but it notably omitted any hint how, or pointer to human readable documentation. All games have no sound though, even those installed from the Fedora repository (for example Battle for Wesnoth). Fedora is for serious uses, you should be doing software development and running servers. ;-) I can understand if third-party software still has problems with PA, but shouldn't at least the games that are shipped with the distribution work with the default sound setup? IMHO PulseAudio is a poorly documented and overly complex solution to problems most users don't have. It never should have been made a default, because it doesn't work for a large number of users who have more than the absolute lowest level sound hardware and less than the highest level of sound expertise. How to fix this? Uninstall PA again? That worked in FC9, I tried it in F10 and alsa sound stopped working as well, so I don't have a solution. I still have one FC6 machine I use for sound, does all the channels, multiple inputs, can use the external speakers in the other room... and I wouldn't upgrade it for anything! -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Today's F10 update finishes with error
On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:28:30PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:40:19 -0500 Matthew Saltzman wrote: At the end of the cleanup phase of yum update with today's updates, I see the following error: ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.207:/org/freedesktop/PackageKit: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name (unset) destination :1.207) === Leaving rpm code === Then I get the final status messages. Not sure if there's any damage as a result. The rest of the update appears to finish normally. Any idea what that's about? TIA. I got the same message, and agree with you that It's about the most confusing error message I've seen since win3 days. My guess is that the author flunked out of the Sarah Palin School of Composition. I think I'll stick with yum and yumex for a while longer. Just another package released without testing on a machine with SElinux? No, the problem has nothing to do with SELinux, afaik. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgp6FGi1nxFn3.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f9 FireFox and Sound.
Reg Clemens wrote: Actually I didnt answer the question asked. Yes this has to do with FLASH, but its more than that. I dont have any sound at all on f9. On fc6 sound works for everything that generates sound. You've checked all of your volume sliders? I see sporadic sound failures with Flash animations on my F9 X86_64 system. Usually, restarting firefox fixes the problem, so I assume its a plug-in issue. If you're problem is more than that, I'd go back to system-config-soundcard and start from there. Check your system logs for any/all information it gives you about your sound card during boot up, and go from there. -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some people mis interpret Fedora's Mission Statement.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would smolt be a reasonable place to consider mining for data on the distribution of use is on the various DMs? Doesn't it report the active DM? Or, if not, should it? I would caution you about doing any popularity data mining without a rationale for needing it to inform a existing policy dicussion where the decisions makers have requested the information. What exactly would be the point of mining the popularity of any software relative to another? There's absolute no decision point for the Fedora project where popularity of any single piece of software matters at the moment.We aren't talking about doing any sort of purging from the repository or anything like that. Just mining popularity information just to know, is not necessarily a constructive thing. It can be a contentious thing. And speaking as expert on bringing up contentious things, you might want to avoid it. -jef -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f9 FireFox and Sound.
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Reg Clemens wrote: Actually I didnt answer the question asked. Yes this has to do with FLASH, but its more than that. I dont have any sound at all on f9. On fc6 sound works for everything that generates sound. You've checked all of your volume sliders? I see sporadic sound failures with Flash animations on my F9 X86_64 system. Usually, restarting firefox fixes the problem, so I assume its a plug-in issue. If you're problem is more than that, I'd go back to system-config-soundcard and start from there. Check your system logs for any/all information it gives you about your sound card during boot up, and go from there. Also, check to make sure that pulse-audio is working properly if you are using it. ISTR that PA became the default for sound in F9, but it may not be properly set up if you did a jump upgrade -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9 does not boot this morning
Dave Feustel wrote: F9 does not boot this morning. It does not get as far as enabling virtual consoles. I had to boot a previous version to get X and logon. Is this related to the many error messages I am getting since yesterday about a process being unable to close? It appears that the update yesterday broke the packagekit update process. If you could run an update the problem of not being able to run an update would go away. I think if you run yum upgrade PackageKit gnome-packagekit as root, by hand, it will work, but I haven't tried it, since someone in the office did an install and upgrade offsite and saved this morning's RPMs which we installed by hand. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
phone device connection
Hi There, I'm using Fedora 10 and am not able to access my phone Nokia 5610 through it. Once I connect my phone to usb, the messages I get in dmesg is usb 4-1: USB disconnect, address 2 usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 usb 4-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice cdc_acm 4-1:1.1: ttyACM0: USB ACM device usb 4-1: bad CDC descriptors usb 4-1: bad CDC descriptors usb 4-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0421, idProduct=0025 usb 4-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 usb 4-1: Product: Nokia 5610d-1 usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Nokia But I am not getting any icon or a taskbar entity though which I can access my phone. Kindly let me know what can be done. You can find the complete dmesg file in the attachment. -- Kind Regards, Sandesh Karanth dmesgoutput.nokia Description: Binary data -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f9 FireFox and Sound.
On Tuesday 09 December 2008 18:44, Reg Clemens wrote: Actually I didnt answer the question asked. Yes this has to do with FLASH, but its more than that. I dont have any sound at all on f9. On fc6 sound works for everything that generates sound. -- Reg.Clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Reg. I'd go for a, yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio , then see if you have sounds. Pulseaudio can be a pain in the backside. F8 on one machine with an audigy2 soundblaster card. No sounds until I removed the package above. On another machine with an hda intel soundcard, sounds worked ok without disabling Pulseaudio. Worth a try, and you can always re-install the alsa-plugins-pulseaudio package if you feel you need it. It's also worth a look at alsamixer, while Pulseaudio is still enabled. Open alsamixer as below, to view all controls. alsamixer -D hw:0 Check for muted controls (the M key toggles mute/unmute), and sliders set to zero. Master, PCM, Front, CD, are the usual sliders to look at. All the best. Nigel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: strigi is a pig
When the date was Tuesday 09 December 2008, Neal Becker wrote: I hadn't tried turning on strigi before. I fired it up on my 2-core machine. It is running 180% load ave. Shouldn't it be a bit more friendly? You can try also recoll. It does better indexing (at least for me) and it's less heavy-weight. -- Michael Iatrou (vacm) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9 does not boot this morning
On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 12:53:58PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Dave Feustel wrote: F9 does not boot this morning. It does not get as far as enabling virtual consoles. I had to boot a previous version to get X and logon. Is this related to the many error messages I am getting since yesterday about a process being unable to close? It appears that the update yesterday broke the packagekit update process. If you could run an update the problem of not being able to run an update would go away. I think if you run yum upgrade PackageKit gnome-packagekit as root, by hand, it will work, but I haven't tried it, since someone in the office did an install and upgrade offsite and saved this morning's RPMs which we installed by hand. I ran the yum command as root and it reported no errors. But when I switched back to X-windows there was yet another error popup reporting update PackageKit failed to reset the client. I'm getting that popup window in bunches of 3 for two days or so now. -- Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 58, Issue 119
yes u can please check anaconda boot options , u nead to read :) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Options || On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 12:50 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Preupgrade/Anaconda problem - 3rd time a charm? I've posted this question twice before but have not received any replies. I want to use preupgrade to go from F8 to F9. I ran preupgrade, selected F9 and downloaded the data. When I rebooted to complete the process, Anaconda started, correctly detected my graphics card and started X. Unfortunately, Anaconda used the wrong setting for my monitor which results in a blank screen with a Out of Range message. I can CtrlAltF1,2,3,4 to see the various messages and logs but I can see nothing on CtrlAltF7. Q1. Where does Anaconda get the settings for the video card from? Q2. Can I tell Anaconda to use the existing xorg.conf file? Q3. Can I tell Anaconda to run in text mode? Any other suggestions? My only other option appears to be to download an F9 respin and burn a DVD. Thanks, Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some people mis interpret Fedora's Mission Statement.
I have no idea. We cannot rely on mere impressions for making such decisions and I know of no hard public hard data. Enthusiasm doesn't determine how many people work on something full time. Paying customers do. Do we pay for Fedora? We don't pay for Fedora. So how can Paying customers determine the decisions. Are there users who pay for Fedora? Or You are talking about RHEL customers? Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fglrx
Christopher A. Williams wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 07:06 -0800, Russell Miller wrote: David Hláčik wrote: Hi guys, is this ATI driver working in Fedora 10? Yes, but setup is rather tricky. You have to create the /dev/dri device files manually. Is there a how-to or instruction guide somewhere on this we can get to? Cheers, Chris Eh, I'll just tell you what I did. Install fglrx using the one that comes from ATI. cd /dev; MAKEDEV dri (this step is critical) Add the following options to the device section of your Xorg.conf: Option OpenGLOverlay off Option VideoOverlay on Option EnableMonitor lvds (if you have a LCD) Option mtrr on Option UseInternalAGPGART yes Option UseFastTLS 2 And it should work. Worked for me, anyway. I have an HD 4650. --Russell -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: phone device connection
--- On Tue, 12/9/08, Sandesh Karanth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sandesh Karanth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: phone device connection To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 9:56 AM Hi There, I'm using Fedora 10 and am not able to access my phone Nokia 5610 through it. Once I connect my phone to usb, the messages I get in dmesg is usb 4-1: USB disconnect, address 2 usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 usb 4-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice cdc_acm 4-1:1.1: ttyACM0: USB ACM device usb 4-1: bad CDC descriptors usb 4-1: bad CDC descriptors usb 4-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0421, idProduct=0025 usb 4-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 usb 4-1: Product: Nokia 5610d-1 usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Nokia But I am not getting any icon or a taskbar entity though which I can access my phone. Kindly let me know what can be done. You can find the complete dmesg file in the attachment. -- Kind Regards, Sandesh Karanth -- Sandesh, Open up a terminal, and type $ su - passwd: # wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf should scan and find a device /dev/tty??? that you can use as a modem port. Is that what you are looking for Or are you looking for accessing data files on the phone? Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Preupgrade/Anaconda problem - 3rd time a charm?
Steve wrote: So do I report this against Anaconda, Xorg or HAL? All the above? Just one bug against Anaconda would do. The maintainers can reassign if necessary. Q3. Can I tell Anaconda to run in text mode? Yep. Refer http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Options Thanks for the link. If I edit the grub entry and add text to the line, does that get passed on to Anaconda? linux text on the Anaconda boot prompt will do the trick. It will boot into runlevel 3 post-installation. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 ypbind error
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Ralf W. Grosse-Kunstleve [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: After installing Fedora 10 from scratch today I'm getting this error in /var/log/messages: Dec 8 16:50:44 hostname ypbind: NIS domain: xxxedout, NIS server: Dec 8 16:54:03 hostname avahi-daemon[3608]: Received response with invalid source port 34051 on interface 'eth0.0' I think these two error messages are unrelated. Note that they come from different processes, 4 minutes apart. I was troubleshooting a problem last week (on an fc8 machine) and saw this error message from avahi and sent email to the list asking about it, no one replied. Google was unusually unhelpful in my effort to understand what it means. The NIS server is serving many other hosts just fine, ranging from Fedora 3 to 9, even Redhat 8.0. The configuration on the client is the same as on all the other machines; I double-checked. Would anyone know what could be wrong? You're not very specific. I am guessing that NIS is not working? Can you nudge it into making more error messages, maybe execute 'ypcat passwd'? Result of '/etc/init.d/ypbind status'? Dave -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some people mis interpret Fedora's Mission Statement.
Antonio Olivares wrote: I have no idea. We cannot rely on mere impressions for making such decisions and I know of no hard public hard data. Enthusiasm doesn't determine how many people work on something full time. Paying customers do. Do we pay for Fedora? We don't pay for Fedora. So how can Paying customers determine the decisions. Are there users who pay for Fedora? Or You are talking about RHEL customers? Neither specifically. Just that, if someone has to work on a product or part of the product, full time, then a commercial organization would only do it usually if customers are willing to pay for it, now or in the near future. Enthusiasts, by their nature, pay with their time instead. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Preupgrade/Anaconda problem - 3rd time a charm?
Rahul Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve wrote: So do I report this against Anaconda, Xorg or HAL? All the above? Just one bug against Anaconda would do. The maintainers can reassign if necessary. OK. I'll do that tonight when I can add the details. Q3. Can I tell Anaconda to run in text mode? Yep. Refer http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Options Thanks for the link. If I edit the grub entry and add text to the line, does that get passed on to Anaconda? linux text on the Anaconda boot prompt will do the trick. It will boot into runlevel 3 post-installation. Huh? Anaconda boot prompt? Now you've lost me. When I rebooted after running preupgrade, there was a new entry in GRUB labelled Upgrade. I selected that which automatically ran Anaconda. Are we talking about different things? Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Odd yum warning (error?) with FC10
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 12:22 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Must be local, but I have no idea what, and now I have another F10 install which works fine, so two fine, two warning but updating. Most odd. Any of them go through a (bad) proxy? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Live CD without CD?
Timothy Murphy wrote: Chris Snook wrote: I have a machine with no CD drive, and I was wondering if I could run the Fedora Live KDE CD from the hard disk - I mean by copying the ISO file to the hard disk. abstracting the isolinux directory, and adding an approriate grub stanza to boot from this? livecd-iso-to-disk (part of the livecd-tools package) was designed to do this with USB drives, but it should work for an IDE/SATA/SCSI drive as well. That said, what you probably want is to find a USB stick that's at least 1 GB, and put it on that. Actually, I already tried that, but this particular machine - I think it is about 8 years old - did not seem to support USB booting. I'll try using livecd-iso-to-disk to install on a new partition. Not quite sure how I'll boot from it, though. Will it be sufficient to make the new partition active? I think it will suffice to make it the only partition marked bootable in fdisk. It'll need to be a primary partition, not an extended partition. It really depends on your BIOS though, if you're not chainloading from the bootloader on the MBR. -- Chris -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to get rid of selinux
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:15:17 -0600 Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SELINUX is extremely invasive, and Fedora has chosen not to support an install which does not include it. This makes sense, because it would increase the QA effort required. You cannot uninstall SELinux. However, disabling it has the same effect except for consuming a bit of disk space. Once disabled, it is as if it was never installed in the first place. -- Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda http://www.tips-Q.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 ypbind error
Hi Dave, I think you are correct, the invalid source port is indeed unrelated. You're not very specific. I am guessing that NIS is not working? Can you nudge it into making more error messages, maybe execute 'ypcat passwd'? Result of '/etc/init.d/ypbind status'? # /etc/init.d/ypbind start SIOCADDRT: File exists Starting NIS service: [ OK ] Binding NIS service: ... [ OK ] # ypcat passwd No such map passwd.byname. Reason: Can't bind to server which serves this domain The only new entry in /var/log/messages is: Dec 9 11:16:26 hostname ypbind: NIS domain: xxxedout, NIS server: So I was looking in the wrong direction. I tried /etc/init.d/iptables stop, but even without the firewall running ypcat doesn't work (Can't bind to server). No clue still... Ralf -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 ypbind error
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Ralf W. Grosse-Kunstleve [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Dave, I think you are correct, the invalid source port is indeed unrelated. You're not very specific. I am guessing that NIS is not working? Can you nudge it into making more error messages, maybe execute 'ypcat passwd'? Result of '/etc/init.d/ypbind status'? # /etc/init.d/ypbind start SIOCADDRT: File exists Starting NIS service: [ OK ] Binding NIS service: ... [ OK ] # ypcat passwd No such map passwd.byname. Reason: Can't bind to server which serves this domain The only new entry in /var/log/messages is: Dec 9 11:16:26 hostname ypbind: NIS domain: xxxedout, NIS server: That's from the startup, indicates normal start. What is output from # /etc/init.d/ypbind status after the ypcat fails? Is rpcbind running (/etc/init.d/rpcbind status)? I am running fc9, but I doubt this has changed. Also check the logs on the server side for any unusual entry mentioning this problem client. HTH, Dave Dave -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Accidently Removed Add/Remove Programs
merogringo wrote: I tried everything you just mentioned... But you needed to post the result here, so that we may see what is going on. Otherwise we are just wildly guessing. We need to know your current versions: $ rpm -q gnome-packagekit PackageKit-glib says: Now we need to now if there install is corrupted: $ rpm -V gnome-packagekit PackageKit-glib says: gnome-packagekit-0.3.9-8.fc10.i386 (fedora) PackageKit-glib-0.3.9-4.fc10.i386 already installed. You already have it installed, but incompatible version. # yum remove PackageKit # yum install gnome-packagekit DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some people mis interpret Fedora's Mission Statement.
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Isn't that what is meant by pressure from above? I don't see how having more resources alloted to something counts as pressure from above. Well, I take it that Redhat is the above in this case, and if they choose to allocate more resources to Gnome than KDE then that is the pressure in question. My strong impression from reading the newsgroups is that a large majority of enthusiasts are using KDE, despite the fact that this is not the default. I have no idea. We cannot rely on mere impressions for making such decisions and I know of no hard public hard data. Enthusiasm doesn't determine how many people work on something full time. Paying customers do. I would have thought it would be relatively easy to ascertain people's views on issues like this. I think it would strengthen Fedora's appeal if it were seen to respond to its users' desires. Of course, if paying customers wanted one thing and non-paying another, it would be entirely reasonable to give more weight to the former. But I doubt if that is the case in this instance. Having said all that, may I add that there are a half-dozen or maybe a dozen people in the Fedora community who can be relied on to give whatever help they can to people who present problems to them, and you, Rahul, are top of that list, with maybe Mikkel beside you. If I ask a question and I see a reply from one of you, I know that my worries are almost certainly at an end, at least for the time being ... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
32 bit Python on 64 bit Fedora?
Is it possible to run a 32 bit Python on a 64 bit Fedora? Or have both 32 and 64 bit version co-existing? I would really rather not, but I have hardware that only provides 32 bit userland libraries (but with a 64 bit kernel driver). Which is weird... (Specifically, I'm trying to access a National Instruments GPIB card.) - Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f9 FireFox and Sound.
Reg Clemens wrote: Actually I didnt answer the question asked. Yes this has to do with FLASH, but its more than that. I dont have any sound at all on f9. On fc6 sound works for everything that generates sound. You've checked all of your volume sliders? I see sporadic sound failures with Flash animations on my F9 X86_64 system. Usually, restarting firefox fixes the problem, so I assume its a plug-in issue. If you're problem is more than that, I'd go back to system-config-soundcard and start from there. Check your system logs for any/all information it gives you about your sound card during boot up, and go from there. Ive checked alsamixer -D hw:0 as another user suggested, the sliders had NOT been set ala the /etc/asound.conf /etc/asound.state so I reset them. Didnt help. Still no sound. AND you suggest system-config-soundcard. I have one of those in fc6 but dont find it in f9. Is there some package that I havent loaded? -- Reg.Clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f9 FireFox and Sound.
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Reg Clemens wrote: Actually I didnt answer the question asked. Yes this has to do with FLASH, but its more than that. I dont have any sound at all on f9. On fc6 sound works for everything that generates sound. You've checked all of your volume sliders? I see sporadic sound failures with Flash animations on my F9 X86_64 system. Usually, restarting firefox fixes the problem, so I assume its a plug-in issue. If you're problem is more than that, I'd go back to system-config-soundcard and start from there. Check your system logs for any/all information it gives you about your sound card during boot up, and go from there. Also, check to make sure that pulse-audio is working properly if you are using it. ISTR that PA became the default for sound in F9, but it may not be properly set up if you did a jump upgrade And how do I do that? How do I mke sure that pulse-audio is working properly? About the only suggestion Ive seen re pulse-audio is to remove the module *sigh* -- Reg.Clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Preupgrade/Anaconda problem - 3rd time a charm?
Steve wrote: Huh? Anaconda boot prompt? Now you've lost me. When I rebooted after running preupgrade, there was a new entry in GRUB labelled Upgrade. I selected that which automatically ran Anaconda. Are we talking about different things? Slightly. If you are doing a complete installation or upgrade via Anaconda, then the initial boot prompt, you would have to enter linux text. I haven't tried it in grub but it should work anyway. If it doesn't, a RFE would be appropriate for preupgrade. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f9 FireFox and Sound.
On Tuesday 09 December 2008 18:44, Reg Clemens wrote: Actually I didnt answer the question asked. Yes this has to do with FLASH, but its more than that. I dont have any sound at all on f9. On fc6 sound works for everything that generates sound. -- Reg.Clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Reg. I'd go for a, yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio , then see if you have sounds. Pulseaudio can be a pain in the backside. F8 on one machine with an audigy2 soundblaster card. No sounds until I removed the package above. On another machine with an hda intel soundcard, sounds worked ok without disabling Pulseaudio. Worth a try, and you can always re-install the alsa-plugins-pulseaudio package if you feel you need it. It's also worth a look at alsamixer, while Pulseaudio is still enabled. Open alsamixer as below, to view all controls. alsamixer -D hw:0 Check for muted controls (the M key toggles mute/unmute), and sliders set to zero. Master, PCM, Front, CD, are the usual sliders to look at. All the best. Nigel. On your suggestion Ive tried that, but still no luck. Remoed alsa-plugins-pulseaudio. Checked alsamixer with the line above, some of the sliders were down (didnt read the asound.conf/asound.state files?) so I moved them up, but still no audio. Mumph. -- Reg.Clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
I need to see open connections this moment - With Iptables i can only see logs
Hi, i use Iptables and i would like to find a tool or software in order to see my open connections. In doesn't care if it's a gui or not, and it can be not interactive (of course). Wireshark capture paquets but i can't be constantly searching if a paquet is correct or not. Somebody could help me? Thank you very much, and sorry (i am doing crossposting). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f9 FireFox and Sound.
Reg Clemens wrote: AND you suggest system-config-soundcard. I have one of those in fc6 but dont find it in f9. Is there some package that I havent loaded? system-config-soundcard? Its installed on my F9 laptop OOPS that's an FC6 package. Never mind! It must be leftover from my yum upgrade of FC6 to F9 last Spring. Do you have any information in /etc/modprobe.conf for you sound card? What *is* your soundcard? -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I need to see open connections this moment - With Iptables i can only see logs
Carlos Carrero Gutierrez wrote: Hi, i use Iptables and i would like to find a tool or software in order to see my open connections. In doesn't care if it's a gui or not, and it can be not interactive (of course). Wireshark capture paquets but i can't be constantly searching if a paquet is correct or not. Somebody could help me? Thank you very much, and sorry (i am doing crossposting). Have you tried netstat -a? -Don -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Workaround for Ksynaptics. (Was preventing people from making a mistake)
On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 13:12 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote: Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 13:13 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 08 December 2008, Matthew Saltzman wrote: This point in this thread seems as appropriate as any to mention syndaemon. It's part of the synaptics (now xorg-x11-drv-synaptics) package. When it runs, it disables the touchpad while the user is actively typing on the keyboard and re-enables it after a brief pause after the user stops typing. Sounds very neat. (I haven't felt the need to actually use it, as I don't have too much trouble with accidental tapping of my current touchpad.) It does require setting SHMConfig, though, so that problem still needs to be addressed. I don't think syndaemon requires SHMConfig. synclient does. The syndaemon man page says it does. I haven't tried it, but I have no more reason to doubt it than I do information in any man page... Not applicable for F8 it appears, from the description of it that I am looking at on my yumex screen right now, there is zero, nada, no mention of being able to disable it with the currently available synaptics-0.14.6-3.fc8.rpm package. It is as if the old package is gone, and replaced by a totally new one without that capability. I wouldn't look there (at least not now that I'm older and wiser and know where to look for this particular program). If you have the synaptics package installed, try 'man syndaemon'. I don't have an F8 machine handy anymore, but I'm sure it was there. It's been there for many generations of Fedora, and probably before that. It's on F8 and F7 (and F6 IIRC). I used it a lot on F8 on my laptop as the touchpad was way too sensitive to my thumb whacking the spacebar. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Selinux and Firefox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 20:44 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Jim wrote: stan wrote: I don't run KDE and SELinux is Greek to me, but what is the error message, and does SETroubleshooter (the yellow star) recommend a fix? That will probably help others respond. It was the /user/.macromedia directory that was causing Selinux to send errors, I ran the recommened command to correct selinux but that didn't help so I just sent the .macromedia directory to the trashcan and it regenerated a new .macromedia directory and no more problems with Selinux. One thing that can be a problem with the SELinux messages is that they usually do not provide the full path to the file you need to change the context of - it is usually something like ./file witch only works if you are in the correct directory when you try to change the context. It would be nice if the full path were reported, but one can often find the relevant file with just a 'locate' and a little common sense (your .sig quote notwithstanding). Mikkel Yes, sadly this is a kernel issue, the kernel only has an Inode at the time of the AVC and is unable to regenerate the complete path. You can turn on full auditing but this hits you with a 5% hit on permformance, not considered worth it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkk+150ACgkQrlYvE4MpobP2/wCgwduBtlZBFyajfjb4/ZZH65Hn DnAAniCkskXpZw9E7UiK8+tuwvrUPiy7 =XLf7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Workaround for Ksynaptics. (Was preventing people from making a mistake)
On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 15:54 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 08 December 2008, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 13:13 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 08 December 2008, Matthew Saltzman wrote: This point in this thread seems as appropriate as any to mention syndaemon. It's part of the synaptics (now xorg-x11-drv-synaptics) package. When it runs, it disables the touchpad while the user is actively typing on the keyboard and re-enables it after a brief pause after the user stops typing. Sounds very neat. (I haven't felt the need to actually use it, as I don't have too much trouble with accidental tapping of my current touchpad.) It does require setting SHMConfig, though, so that problem still needs to be addressed. Not applicable for F8 it appears, from the description of it that I am looking at on my yumex screen right now, there is zero, nada, no mention of being able to disable it with the currently available synaptics-0.14.6-3.fc8.rpm package. It is as if the old package is gone, and replaced by a totally new one without that capability. I wouldn't look there (at least not now that I'm older and wiser and know where to look for this particular program). If you have the synaptics package installed, try 'man syndaemon'. I don't have an F8 machine handy anymore, but I'm sure it was there. It's been there for many generations of Fedora, and probably before that. I just blew it away on this box, but will install it on my lappy before I take it anyplace else again. Thanks for prodding me to actually look at it, but the question then remains, how do we setup this SHMconfig in our xorg.conf's? Was that posted I missed it? Yep. For F8, add Option SHMConfig yes to the Synaptics InputDevice section. For F10, create /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-synaptics.fdi containing: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1? deviceinfo version=0.2 device match key=info.capabilities contains=input.touchpad match key=info.product contains=Synaptics TouchPad merge key=input.x11_driver type=stringsynaptics/merge merge key=input.x11_options.SHMConfig type=stringOn/merge /match match key=info.product contains=AlpsPS/2 ALPS merge key=input.x11_driver type=stringsynaptics/merge /match match key=info.product contains=appletouch merge key=input.x11_driver type=stringsynaptics/merge /match match key=info.product contains=bcm5974 merge key=input.x11_driver type=stringsynaptics/merge /match /match /device /deviceinfo -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What servers ~/Public
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 03:27:21AM -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: Is there any light file transfer daemon servicing ~/Public (which gets autocreated) Not in any way that matches the windows share model. It is possible (but not recommended for all systems) to have Apache serve ~/public_html as per user web content. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/public_html.html It is also possible to have an NFS dir exported and give users their own dir in it. And, it is possible to setup ftp accounts/directories for users. All of these including the windows model have security issues and should only be enabled with care. -- T o m M i t c h e l l Found me a new hat, now what? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I need to see open connections this moment - With Iptables i can only see logs
On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 21:21:54 +0100, Carlos Carrero Gutierrez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, i use Iptables and i would like to find a tool or software in order to see my open connections. In doesn't care if it's a gui or not, and it can be not interactive (of course). Wireshark capture paquets but i can't be constantly searching if a paquet is correct or not. Somebody could help me? Look at lsof if you are interested in what programs or users correspond to thos connections. If you are more interested in flows iptables uses state (at least if you are using --cstate) and there should be a way to dump that information. This will tell you about connectionless protocols that were recently used in addition to connections. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
can't use yum
Hi people! I have a problem with yum on my Fedora 9. If I launch commands with yum I got (problem connecting to a software source) cannot retrieve repository metadata(repomd.xml) for repository fedora. please verify its path and try again. I had a look a bit on the net -even if I am new with linux OS-: someone states that's beacuse I am not on-line. But I am on-line (I surf internet with Mozilla). How is it possible? Any idea? The only point I fret about is connected with a problem I have with SELinux (i use the pc at work). The icon of network connections says I have no connections on, even if I am online. (all thing are on, as they must) thanks in advance -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.org https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=310433topic_id=65209forum=10#forumpost310433 If you think, this is spam, please report this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and/or blame [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: asus w5f Intel sound on Fedora 10
Taken out alsa-plugins-pulseaudio from a fresh install, no luck. This is the output: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] ~]# cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDA Intel at 0xfeb38000 irq 16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2] ~]# grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec* Codec: Motorola Si3054 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [3] ~]# /sbin/lsmod | grep snd snd_hda_intel 351124 0 snd_seq_dummy 6660 0 snd_seq_oss30364 0 snd_seq_midi_event 9600 1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq48576 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq_device 10124 3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq snd_pcm_oss42496 0 snd_mixer_oss 16896 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm65924 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 22024 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 11016 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm snd_hwdep 10500 1 snd_hda_intel snd50616 10 snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep soundcore 9416 1 snd Links: -- [1] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [2] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [3] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.org https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=310443topic_id=65200forum=10#forumpost310443 If you think, this is spam, please report this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and/or blame [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Today's F10 update finishes with error
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 10:40 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: At the end of the cleanup phase of yum update with today's updates, I see the following error: ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.207:/org/freedesktop/PackageKit: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name (unset) destination :1.207) === Leaving rpm code === Then I get the final status messages. Not sure if there's any damage as a result. The rest of the update appears to finish normally. Any idea what that's about? error name (unset) destination :1.26) See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475074 and http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/12/08/cve-2008-4311-dbus-126/ TIA. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- === Benson, you are so free of the ravages of intelligence -- Time Bandits === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Workaround for Ksynaptics. (Was preventing people from making a mistake)
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 13:35 +1030, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 11:32 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: This point in this thread seems as appropriate as any to mention syndaemon. It's part of the synaptics (now xorg-x11-drv-synaptics) package. When it runs, it disables the touchpad while the user is actively typing on the keyboard and re-enables it after a brief pause after the user stops typing. Sounds very neat Though not very practical, in practice, I've found. It adds delays to things, delays that are worse than useless for anyone who's a fast worker. I want things to work instantly, not to have do something, wait, then carry on with the next thing. And it doesn't help you, at all, for those times in which the touchpad thinks you're using it, when your hands are somewhat near it, but you're not actually doing anything. By the time you reach for a key to type, the touchpad can have plonked the cursor on some random part of the screen. That's your experience. Some other people in this thread swear by it. I use a touchpad and I haven't found enough of a need for it to configure it. De gustibus non est disputandem... -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Today's F10 update finishes with error
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:25:01 -0500 Paul W. Frields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As reported elsewhere, there's a problem with a set of packages that went into updates. Another set of updates is coming that will fix the problem, as well as a lot of discussion about how to make sure this doesn't happen again. Details are elsewhere on this list if needed. The specific problem is that file /etc/dbus-1/system.conf was changed to deny access to all uses except those specifically allowed, and not all of the packagaes which needed to be authorized were listed. As a workaround until the updated packages are availalbe, I changed the line deny send_interface=*/ to allow send_interface=*/. -- Chuck http://www.pacificsites.com/~ccrayne/charles.html -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora Architecture Questions
On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 08:41:19AM -0800, Michael Peterson wrote: Hello All, This is my first post so please ignore the formatting. I have server questions about the Fedora 10 architecture that I will list below this message. I am need to present a brief presentation to my Operating Systems class involving various components of the OS. I have spent the past few days researching the web including multiple Fedora project websites and online databases and found nothing. If anyone is able to give me some simple answers or even relevant information or sources would be wonderful. -CPU Scheduling algorithms used by Fedora -Techniques used by Fedora for message passing between process/threads -Techniques for Shared Memory -Process Synchronization techniques supported by Fedora -Methods of dealing with deadlocks -What languages was used to design the OS -What API do application developers uses (is it posix) -Implementation structure (modular, layered...) None of these are topics for a brief presentation! However, the obvous trick question does have an answer. Since Linus Torvalds was born in Helsinki, Finland, the language for the initial design of Linux was Finnish. The choice of programming languages reflects him being named after Linus Pauling and Pauling's (the American Nobel Prize-winning chemist) beliefs that vitamin C in large (gram) doses was good for you ;-). Also most MPI application programmers use the MPI API and Fortran where the Fortran may or may not be POSIX Fortran 77. To my knowledge Open GL is not a posix standard but is a common API used by graphics folk that need some additional API support beyond the X11 API as suplimented by Gnome. See glxgears. One very important release process synchronization tool is GIT. Mail threads are supported by numerous tools like mutt. -- T o m M i t c h e l l Found me a new hat, now what? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Nautilus doesn't start
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 09:33 +0100, Antonio M wrote: Suddenly when I open a session I get: Non è possibile usare Nautilus adesso, a causa di un errore imprevisto di Bonobo durante il tentativo di individuare la fabbrica. Per risolvere il problema, potrebbe essere d'aiuto terminare il processo «bonobo-activation-server» e riavviare Nautilus. It is not possible to use Nautilus now, due to an unforeseen error of Bonobo during try to get the make.To solve the problem, it could help to kill bonobo-activation-server and restart Nautilus. This happened suddenly on two of my systems both in F10 and Rawhide Any hint?? Antonio, I am experiencing the same issue on my F10 server. Do you have SELinux enabled? I seem to have some kind of SELinux error in my system that occurs around the same time this Nautilus error appears. SELinux Error Summary: SELinux is preventing ck-get-x11-serv (consolekit_t) connectto unconfined_notrans_t. I'm thinking it might be an SELinux issue? I've posted the details of this error over on that list, but haven't gotten any word back yet. I think it would be helpful if we both were experiencing the same thing and could narrow it down some. - Adam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: can't use yum
В Tue, 9 Dec 2008 21:56:50 +0100 gab_v [EMAIL PROTECTED] пишет: Hi people! I have a problem with yum on my Fedora 9. If I launch commands with yum I got (problem connecting to a software source) cannot retrieve repository metadata(repomd.xml) for repository fedora. please verify its path and try again. I had a look a bit on the net -even if I am new with linux OS-: someone states that's beacuse I am not on-line. But I am on-line (I surf internet with Mozilla). How is it possible? Any idea? The only point I fret about is connected with a problem I have with SELinux (i use the pc at work). The icon of network connections says I have no connections on, even if I am online. (all thing are on, as they must) thanks in advance You may be behind the proxy. In that case you should add this line to your yum.conf: proxy=http://proxy_addres:port/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
I need Miredo for F10
And http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=miredosubmit=Search+...system=arch= only finds it for F9. So I download that anyway and try to do a yum localinstall and it needs: libcap.so.1 And libcap.so.2 is installed, what to do? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I need Miredo for F10
Robert Moskowitz wrote: And http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=miredosubmit=Search+...system=arch= only finds it for F9. So I download that anyway and try to do a yum localinstall and it needs: libcap.so.1 And libcap.so.2 is installed, what to do? You can try to set up a symlink: ln -s /lib/libcap.so.2 /lib/libcap.so.1 Usually newer versions of libraries are backwards compatible with older ones. If it works, great. If not: rm -f /lib/libcap.so.1 to put things back they way they were. REF: F9:/lib/libcap.so.1 -- /lib/libcap.so.1.10 /lib/libcap.so.2 -- /lib/libcap.so.2.06 F10:/lib/libcap.so.2 -- /lib/libcap.so.2.10 -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - UNIX is actually quite user friendly. The problem is that it's - - just very picky of who its friends are! - -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I need Miredo for F10
Robert Moskowitz wrote: And http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=miredosubmit=Search+...system=arch= only finds it for F9. So I download that anyway and try to do a yum localinstall and it needs: libcap.so.1 And libcap.so.2 is installed, what to do? I just did some further investigation and discovered that: F8 has: libcap-1.10-30.i386 which contains: /lib/libcap.so.1 /lib/libcap.so.1.10 F9 has: libcap-2.06-4.fc9.x86_64 which contains: /lib64/libcap.so.1 /lib64/libcap.so.1.10 /lib64/libcap.so.2 /lib64/libcap.so.2.06 and F10 has: libcap-2.10-2.fc10.i386 which only has: /lib/libcap.so.2 /lib/libcap.so.2.10 It looks to me like the package maintainer is plating games with the packaging in order to effect a migration forward. You probably need to file an RFE in order to get libcap.so.1 put back into the F10 RPMs. (or maybe call it a bug since it was in F9 and isn't anymore). I hate it when people remove stuff in the name of progress which breaks something else. Compatibility should reign forever. Is it possible to find a newer version of Miredo with better package requirements? (I know nothing about Miredo.) -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I need Miredo for F10
Robert Moskowitz wrote: And http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=miredosubmit=Search+...system=arch= only finds it for F9. So I download that anyway and try to do a yum localinstall and it needs: libcap.so.1 And libcap.so.2 is installed, what to do? Well, one of number of things things: 1) If the API for libcap.so.2 is backward compatible enough for what you need it for, just put a in symlink linking libcap.so.1 - libcap.so.2. 2) If the API for libcap.so.2 is incompatible with what your application needs, then you will need to find a .src.rpm for building libpcap.so.1, build it yourself, and install it locally. 3) Find an old RPM and install it and hope that it works. Sometimes there are compatibility versions of libraries available in one or more of the repos, but a yum search libcap.so.1 for me doesn't find anything. -- Kevin J. Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
f9 D-bus error report
I got this error this afternoon: System: Linux 2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686 #1 SMP Thu Nov 13 20:52:14 EST 2008 i686 X Vendor: The X.Org Foundation X Vendor Release: 10502000 Selinux: Enforcing Accessibility: Disabled GTK+ Theme: Nodoka Icon Theme: Fedora Memory status: size: 0 vsize: 0 resident: 0 share: 0 rss: 0 rss_rlim: 0 CPU usage: start_time: 0 rtime: 0 utime: 0 stime: 0 cutime:0 cstime: 0 timeout: 0 it_real_value: 0 frequency: 0 --- .xsession-errors - Unable to open desktop file /home/daf/Desktop/Terminal.desktop for panel launcher: No such file or directory ** (nautilus:2617): WARNING **: Unable to add monitor: Not supported Unable to open desktop file /home/daf/Desktop/gnome-freecell.desktop for panel launcher: No such file or directory Unable to open desktop file /home/daf/Desktop/ff.desktop for panel launcher: No such file or directory Unable to open desktop file /home/daf/Desktop/xemacs.desktop for panel launcher: No such file or directory Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged process 2630: arguments to dbus_set_error() were incorrect, assertion (error) == NULL || !dbus_error_is_set ((error)) failed in file dbus-errors.c line 363. This is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library. D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace (bug-buddy:2734): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. (bug-buddy:2734): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I need Miredo for F10
Kevin J. Cummings wrote, On 12/09/2008 05:55 PM: Robert Moskowitz wrote: And http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=miredosubmit=Search+...system=arch= only finds it for F9. So I download that anyway and try to do a yum localinstall and it needs: libcap.so.1 And libcap.so.2 is installed, what to do? Well, one of number of things things: 1) If the API for libcap.so.2 is backward compatible enough for what you need it for, just put a in symlink linking libcap.so.1 - libcap.so.2. 2) If the API for libcap.so.2 is incompatible with what your application needs, then you will need to find a .src.rpm for building libpcap.so.1, build it yourself, and install it locally. 3) Find an old RPM and install it and hope that it works. Sometimes there are compatibility versions of libraries available in one or more of the repos, but a yum search libcap.so.1 for me doesn't find anything. A further option considering Miredo is an open-source Teredo IPv6 tunneling software for...[1], would be to snag a copy of the source to Miredo[2] and build it on F10... of course that assumes that the software has something sort of nice like a configure script to let the OP know that they need more 'devel' packages and that the OP understands what the configure script is asking for. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miredo [2] http://www.remlab.net/files/miredo/?C=N;O=D -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora 10 - sound too fast
Hi all, after updating my old Compaq Ipaq-desktop from fc9 to fc10 by a fresh and clean installation, every sound playback is too fast. This effects system sound, mpd, xmms, i think every sound is much too fast. I've been searching for hints or solutions, but without success. Do you have any ideas ? hardware: p3-800 i810 chipsets 512 MB Ram ac97 just nothing exceptional ... Thanks in advance Torsten -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
For Loops and Space in Names
Since we were talking here about this last week, I thought I'd mention this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/handling-filenames-with-spaces-in-bash.html Most of the ideas there are ones that got mentioned here, but there is a new one. rh -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
