Fedora User Guide

2008-12-21 Thread Matthew Daniels
Fedora User Guide Update


The user guide for Fedora 8 has been hidden within the
FedoraProject.org wiki for some time now.  It has finally been cleaned
up and placed neatly in its own page.  We have also added a User Guide
category under which future UGs should be located.

  * F8 UG Table of Contents - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F8_User_Guide
  * Category: User Guide - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:User_Guide
  * Category: F8 User Guide -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:F8_User_Guide

Questions about the user guide can be directed to
fedora-docs-l...@redhat.com.  The F9, and, hopefully, the F10 user
guides should be released in the coming weeks.

 Matthew Daniels
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December 2008 FESCo Election Results

2008-12-21 Thread Brian Pepple
Election Results for FESCo - Fedora 10 Cycle

Voting Period: 07 December 2008 00:00:00 UTC to 20 December 2008
23:59:59 UTC

Nominations:

* Dan Horák (sharkcz)
* Dominik Mierzejewski (rathann)
* Jarod Wilson (jwilson)
* Jon Stanley (jds2001)
* Josh Boyer (jwb)

Outcomes:

As defined in the election text, the four (4) candidate(s) with the
greatest number of votes will be elected for a full, 2 release term.

Information:

At close of voting there were:
169 valid ballots

Using the Fedora Range Voting method, each candidate could attain a
maximum of
845 votes (5*169).

Results:

1. Josh Boyer (jwb) 489
2. Dan Horák (sharkcz)  485
3. Jarod Wilson (jwilson)   485
4. Jon Stanley (jds2001)453
*
5. Dominik Mierzejewski (rathann)   396

As such, Josh Boyer, Dan Horák, Jarod Wilson and Jon Stanley are elected
to FESCo for a 2 release term as of January 7, 2009.

Btw, I would like to thank Matt Domsch and Nigel Jones for all the work
they did in setting up and running this election.

Later,
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FAMSCo 2008 Election Result

2008-12-21 Thread Francesco Ugolini
It's my pleasure to announce the election result for FAmSCo.

Here the communication made by Nigel Jones, the Elections
Administrator, with the election result:

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Election Results for FAmSCo - Fedora 11 Cycle

Voting Period: 07 December 2008 00:00:00 UTC to 20 December 23:59:59 UTC

Nominations:

* David Nalley (ke4qqq)
* Francesco Ugolini (fugolini)
* Hector Gonzalez (hagr182)
* Joerg Simon (kital)
* Larry Cafiero (lcafiero)
* Max Spevack (spevack)
* Rodrigo Padula (RodrigoPadula)
* Sandro Mathys (red_alert)
* Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit)
* Thomas Canniot (MrTom)

Outcomes:

As defined in the election text, the seven (7) candidate(s) with the
greatest number of votes will be elected for full 2 release term.

Information:

At close of voting there were:
126 valid ballots

Using the Fedora Range Voting method, each candidate could attain a maximum of
1260 votes (10*126).

Results:

 1. Max Spevack (spevack)   917
 2. Joerg Simon (kital) 695
 3. Francesco Ugolini (fugolini)684
 4. Thomas Canniot (MrTom)  561
 5. Rodrigo Padula (RodrigoPadula)  548
 6. David Nalley (ke4qqq)   487
 7. Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit) 442
*
 8. Sandro Mathys (red_alert)   356
 9. Larry Cafiero (lcafiero)346
10. Hector Gonzalez (hagr182)   252

As such, Max Spevack, Joerg Simon, Francesco Ugolini, Thomas Canniot,
Rodrigo Padula, David Nalley and Susmit Shannigrahi are elected to
FAmSCo for a full 2 relase term.

Signed,

Nigel Jones nigjo...@redhat.com
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Many thanks to Nigel for his precious work and to whoever helped
organizing this election.

Best regards

on behalf of former FAmSCo
Francesco Ugolini

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December 2008 Fedora Board election results

2008-12-21 Thread Paul W. Frields
Election Results for Fedora Board, Fedora 11 Release Cycle

Voting Period: 07 December 2008 00:00:00 UTC to 20 December 2008
23:59:59 UTC

Nominations:

* Bill Nottingham (notting)
* David Cantrell (dcantrell)
* Dimitris Glezos (glezos)
* Jon Stanley (jds2001)
* Josh Boyer (jwb)
* Matt Domsch (mdomsch)
* Michael DeHaan (mpdehaan)

Outcomes:

As defined in the election text, the two (2) candidate(s) with the
greatest number of votes will be elected for a full, 2 release term.

Information:

At close of voting there were:
227 valid ballots

Using the Fedora Range Voting method, each candidate could attain a
maximum of 1589 votes (7*227).

Results:

1. Bill Nottingham (notting)993
2. Matt Domsch (mdomsch)962
*
3. Dimitris Glezos (glezos) 816
4. Michael DeHaan (mpdehaan)742
5. Jon Stanley (jds2001)691
6. Josh Boyer (jwb) 685
7. David Cantrell (dcantrell)   574

As such, Bill Nottingham and Matt Domsch are elected to the Fedora
Board for a 2 release term.

I'd like to thank our community for participating in the election,
Matt Domsch for his assistance in scheduling town hall meetings for
the candidates, and Nigel Jones for his work in setting up and
administering the voting process.

* * * * *

There are a few individuals under consideration for the final
appointed Board seat.  This appointment is made after elections are
completed to balance the Board's composition, and represent the entire
Fedora community as much as possible.  Although this appointment is
ultimately up to the Fedora Project Leader to decide, generally the
FPL discusses the appointments with others to achieve a consensus.

Because of the impending holidays, the timing of election returns, and
lower availability of some Red Hat employees due to both the calendar
and recent inclement weather in Westford, I will be delaying the last
appointment until after the holidays, so that I have an opportunity to
talk with people whose opinions I value.  

Since the Board does not meet again until after the New Year, the
current (pre-election) Board will have its final meeting at the public
IRC gathering scheduled for Tuesday, January 6.  The next meeting of
the Board, on Tuesday, January 13, will be the first meeting of the
new Board.

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re:wallpaer!!

2008-12-21 Thread ANKUR ANAND
these are the wallpapers i made and forgot to attach in the previous mail.
aplogies for the same. anyways i would like to have your comments and
feedback on d wallpapers !

http://jiitlug.googlegroups.com/web/fedora2.png?hl=engsc=xlKsqhYAAABKfX-Y689yOvg82OiFrNVcS7ibph5ftdNh9K_-frBgDg

http://jiitlug.googlegroups.com/web/fedora.png?hl=engsc=MgWlthYAAACPCAtMv17zj-tgAuHRJaPQS7ibph5ftdNh9K_-frBgDg
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Re: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 33, Issue 31

2008-12-21 Thread Deep_Purple

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I guess you forgot to attach wallpaper itself...

2008/12/20 ANKUR ANAND ankurdn...@gmail.com:
  

i made this wallpaper and would like to have your suggestions!! also i am
new to FOSS and artwork,, so would like to know more about how to progress
and what all steps i should take !!!

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Its nice and all that, but do you not think that it deviates from the 
fedora theme and color scheme?


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[Bug 475593] Review Request: fontpackages - Common directory and macro definitions used by font packages

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #13 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
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fontpackages-1.11-1.fc9 has been pushed to the Fedora 9 stable repository.  If
problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.

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[Bug 475593] Review Request: fontpackages - Common directory and macro definitions used by font packages

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed:

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[Bug 471103] Font spacing wrong in menus and text

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #26 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2008-12-21 03:34:20 EDT ---
openoffice.org-2.4.2-18.3.fc9 has been pushed to the Fedora 9 testing
repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug
report.
 If you want to test the update, you can install it with 
 su -c 'yum --enablerepo=updates-testing-newkey update openoffice.org'.  You
can provide feedback for this update here:
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2008-11549

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[Bug 475593] Review Request: fontpackages - Common directory and macro definitions used by font packages

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #14 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
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fontpackages-1.11-1.fc10 has been pushed to the Fedora 10 stable repository. 
If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.

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[Bug 477392] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2008-12-21 
05:11:07 EDT ---
Both solutions are probably more user-friendly than packaging latex files
anyway.

Alternatively, you can check with the doxygen maintainer why the generated
latex files do not use system fonts (xetex should be able to do it)

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[Bug 477384] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2008-12-21 
05:18:45 EDT ---
The packaging font guidelines apply to all fonts
— it's not nice to package private fonts, others would like to use your font
too
— having private fonts go through the normal packaging process ensures their
license is checked properly. All too often private fonts are seen as accessory
and packaged even though they violate our licensing rules

You always have the option to drop your private font and depend on an existing
package such as one of the DejaVu packages, with a symlink if you need one
(it's been split so you don't need to pull in the three fonts, just the one you
need)

It's the same situation as private static libs

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[Bug 477392] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #4 from Tim Fenn f...@stanford.edu  2008-12-21 05:38:23 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #3)
 Both solutions are probably more user-friendly than packaging latex files
 anyway.
 

I just yanked the latex files, since when I tried processing them, it bombed
with several errors.

 Alternatively, you can check with the doxygen maintainer why the generated
 latex files do not use system fonts (xetex should be able to do it)

I'll check on this.  In the meantime, I'll just include the html files with the
rpm.

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[Bug 477380] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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Alexey Torkhov atork...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution||NEXTRELEASE




--- Comment #2 from Alexey Torkhov atork...@gmail.com  2008-12-21 05:47:03 
EDT ---
This package has symlinks. Closing.

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[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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Bug 477044 depends on bug 475593, which changed state.

Bug 475593 Summary: Review Request: fontpackages  - Common directory and macro 
definitions used by font packages
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475593

   What|Old Value   |New Value

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
 Resolution||NEXTRELEASE

Bug 477044 depends on bug 477380, which changed state.

Bug 477380 Summary: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477380

   What|Old Value   |New Value

 Resolution||NEXTRELEASE
 Status|NEW |CLOSED



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[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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Bug 477044 depends on bug 477426, which changed state.

Bug 477426 Summary: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477426

   What|Old Value   |New Value

 Status|CLOSED  |ASSIGNED
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[Bug 477426] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||Reopened
 Status|CLOSED  |ASSIGNED
 Resolution|NOTABUG |




--- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2008-12-21 
05:49:00 EDT ---
It is very much a bug for this package.

Our packaging guidelines changed in part to remove all the fontconfig scriplet
copies in font packages so Behdad has a single place to change them when needed

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[Bug 473560] Replace bitstream-vera dependencies with dejavu dependencies

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Alexey Torkhov atork...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Alexey Torkhov atork...@gmail.com  2008-12-21 05:50:07 
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In compare with this package size, bitstream fonts are tiny.
But, as they'll be gone in future, new release is referencing dejavu now.

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[Bug 477330] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #1 from Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org  2008-12-21 06:16:41 
EDT ---
Done.

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1013368

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[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11

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Bug 477044 depends on bug 477330, which changed state.

Bug 477330 Summary: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477330

   What|Old Value   |New Value

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
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[Bug 477433] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

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--- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2008-12-21 
06:48:37 EDT ---
The target of this bug is first F11 alpha. Take your time to do things properly
and ask on the list if you need more info

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[pkgdb] abyssinica-fonts ownership updated

2008-12-21 Thread Fedora PackageDB
Package abyssinica-fonts in Fedora OLPC 2 was orphaned by bernie

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[pkgdb] abyssinica-fonts ownership updated

2008-12-21 Thread Fedora PackageDB
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[pkgdb] abyssinica-fonts ownership updated

2008-12-21 Thread Fedora PackageDB
Package abyssinica-fonts in Fedora 7 was orphaned by bernie

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[pkgdb] nafees-web-naskh-fonts ownership updated

2008-12-21 Thread Fedora PackageDB
Package nafees-web-naskh-fonts in Fedora devel was orphaned by bernie

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[Bug 477448] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

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--- Comment #2 from Hedayat Vatankhah heda...@grad.com  2008-12-21 07:35:10 
EDT ---
Yes, this package contains 1 font file, and it is not a font package. So, I
think the best thing is to use system fonts. This package currently wants to
load a .ttf font (it uses freetype). I wonder what is the best solution here. I
might change set the package to use a special font, e.g. one of DejaVU fonts.
What's your suggestion?!

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[pkgdb] nafees-web-naskh-fonts ownership updated

2008-12-21 Thread Fedora PackageDB
Package nafees-web-naskh-fonts in Fedora 7 was orphaned by bernie

To make changes to this package see:
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rpms/fontpackages/devel fontpackages.spec, 1.2, 1.3 import.log, 1.2, 1.3

2008-12-21 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Author: nim

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv29824/devel

Modified Files:
fontpackages.spec import.log 
Log Message:
fix url


Index: fontpackages.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/fontpackages.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3
--- fontpackages.spec   19 Dec 2008 22:38:08 -  1.2
+++ fontpackages.spec   21 Dec 2008 12:37:56 -  1.3
@@ -3,15 +3,14 @@
 
 Name:fontpackages
 Version: 1.12
-Release: 1%{?dist}
+Release: 2%{?dist}
 Summary: Common directory and macro definitions used by font packages
 
 Group: Development/System
 # Mostly means the scriptlets inserted via this package do not change the
 # license of the packages they're inserted in
 License:   LGPLv3+
-# Or git://git.fedorahosted.org/fontpackages.git
-URL:   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fonts_SIG
+URL:   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/fontpackages/
 Source0:   
http://fedorahosted.org/releases/f/o/%{name}/%{name}-%{version}.tar.bz2
 BuildArch: noarch
 BuildRoot: %(mktemp -ud %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-XX)
@@ -91,10 +90,12 @@
 
 
 %changelog
+* Sun Dec 21 2008 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
+- 1.12-2
+⌂ Change homepage
 * Fri Dec 19 2008 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
 - 1.12-1
 ☺ Add another macro to allow building fontconfig without cycling
-
 * Wed Dec 10 2008 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
 - 1.11-1
 ☺ Add actual fedorahosted references


Index: import.log
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/devel/import.log,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3
--- import.log  19 Dec 2008 22:38:08 -  1.2
+++ import.log  21 Dec 2008 12:37:56 -  1.3
@@ -1,2 +1,3 @@
 fontpackages-1_11-1_fc11:HEAD:fontpackages-1.11-1.fc11.src.rpm:1229379496
 fontpackages-1_12-1_fc11:HEAD:fontpackages-1.12-1.fc11.src.rpm:1229726060
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[Bug 477368] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

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--- Comment #2 from Patrice Dumas pertu...@free.fr  2008-12-21 09:20:47 EDT 
---
I had a look and it indeed makes sense to split out the fonts. This means

* reviewing separately the i18n-fonts package which should not be a problem
* reviewing separately ogonkify which may be a bit more complicated (I just
spotted an afm from adobe with all rights reserved...), and make sure that the
ogokify from a2ps is not used.
When I reviewed a2ps I verified that ogonkify in a2ps and upstream was the
same, maybe this should be reverified.
* adjusting the paths in a2ps (maybe in a2ps-4.13-etc.patch)

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--- Comment #3 from Patrice Dumas pertu...@free.fr  2008-12-21 09:35:43 EDT 
---
i18n fonts are at (no home page as far as I can tell):
ftp://ftp.enst.fr/pub/unix/a2ps/i18n-fonts-0.1.tar.gz

ogonkify seems to be a:
http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~jch/software/ogonkify/

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[Bug 477397] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

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--- Comment #3 from Patrice Dumas pertu...@free.fr  2008-12-21 10:10:13 EDT 
---
Also are there type1 variants of DejaVu fonts in fedora?

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[Bug 477397] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

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--- Comment #2 from Patrice Dumas pertu...@free.fr  2008-12-21 10:09:34 EDT 
---
Looking at the font files, there is:

Notice (Copyright (c) 2003 by Bitstream, Inc. All Rights Reserved.)
%Copyright: Copyright (c) 2003 by Bitstream, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
%Copyright:  DejaVu changes are in public domain

Comment Copyright URW Software, Copyright 1997 by URW
Comment Creation Date: 10/21/1999 
Comment See the file COPYING (GNU General Public License) for license
conditions.
% Copyright URW Software, Copyright 1997 by URW
% URW Software, Copyright 1997 by URW
% See the file COPYING (GNU General Public License) for license conditions.
% As a special exception, permission is granted to include this font
% program in a Postscript or PDF file that consists of a document that
% contains text to be displayed or printed using this font, regardless
% of the conditions or license applying to the document itself.

So it looks like those fonts were taken from elsewhere, though it is not 
completly clear to me where they come from. grepping in 
 /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1/
doesn't exactly lead to the same.

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--- Comment #4 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2008-12-21 
10:25:54 EDT ---
That seems the typical font licensing mess. I don't even want to look at it,
that's something for spot if you want to keep those files.

Do you really need the files in Type1 form? I suppose it may be possible to
convert DejaVu to Type1 at build time, though since the Type1 format is very
limited, that will be a huge mess with quality loss and conflicts with the main
dejavu truetype fonts.

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[Bug 477435] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

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--- Comment #2 from Caolan McNamara caol...@redhat.com  2008-12-21 11:08:06 
EDT ---
I imagine this is due to the inclusion of
/usr/lib/openoffice.org/basis3.0/share/fonts/truetype/opens___.ttf which is the
very openoffice.org-specific opensymbol font which provides some dingbat
symbols which are used with a magic conversion table to provide conversions
for wingdings for msoffice import and for conversion of the even more obscure
starbats font from old versions of StarOffice documents. Its definitely not a
general-purpose font, and I'm not sure it has value outside OpenOffice.org, its
more a means-to-an-end to support a conversion mechanism for wingdings and
starbats.

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--- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2008-12-21 
11:18:14 EDT ---
I'm quite sure it has value for all our other office apps which need to deal
with OO.o documents that reference this font

(of course I hope SUN did use unicode encoding, but even if they didn't, as
long as there are documents that reference this, it's not a good idea to keep
it private)

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rpms/dejavu-fonts/devel .cvsignore, 1.51, 1.52 dejavu-fonts.spec, 1.91, 1.92 import.log, 1.8, 1.9 sources, 1.51, 1.52 dejavu-fonts-2.26-fontconfig.patch, 1.1, NONE

2008-12-21 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Author: nim

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/dejavu-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv16908/devel

Modified Files:
.cvsignore dejavu-fonts.spec import.log sources 
Removed Files:
dejavu-fonts-2.26-fontconfig.patch 
Log Message:
2.28


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/dejavu-fonts/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.51
retrieving revision 1.52
diff -u -r1.51 -r1.52
--- .cvsignore  17 Dec 2008 20:11:02 -  1.51
+++ .cvsignore  21 Dec 2008 17:18:47 -  1.52
@@ -1 +1 @@
-dejavu-fonts-2.27.tar.bz2
+dejavu-fonts-2.28.tar.bz2


Index: dejavu-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/dejavu-fonts/devel/dejavu-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.91
retrieving revision 1.92
diff -u -r1.91 -r1.92
--- dejavu-fonts.spec   17 Dec 2008 20:11:02 -  1.91
+++ dejavu-fonts.spec   21 Dec 2008 17:18:48 -  1.92
@@ -27,15 +27,14 @@
 
 
 Name:%{fontname}-fonts
-Version: 2.27
-Release: 7%{?alphatag}%{?dist}
+Version: 2.28
+Release: 1%{?alphatag}%{?dist}
 Summary: DejaVu fonts
 
 Group: User Interface/X
 License:   Bitstream Vera and Public Domain
 URL:   http://%{fontname}.sf.net/
 Source0:   
%{?!alphatag:http://downloads.sourceforge.net/%{fontname}}%{?alphatag:%{fontname}.sourceforge.net/snapshots}/%{archivename}.tar.bz2
-Patch0:%{name}-2.26-fontconfig.patch
 BuildRoot: %(mktemp -ud %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-XX)
 
 # Older fontforge versions will not work due to sfd format changes
@@ -52,7 +51,7 @@
 
 
 %package compat
-Summary: DejaVu fonts, compatibility
+Summary: DejaVu fonts compatibility package
 Group:   User Interface/X
 
 Obsoletes: dejavu-fonts  2.26-3
@@ -65,7 +64,7 @@
 
 
 %package lgc-compat
-Summary: DejaVu fonts, LGC compatibility
+Summary: DejaVu fonts, LGC compatibility package
 Group:   User Interface/X
 
 Obsoletes: dejavu-lgc-fonts  2.26-3
@@ -77,7 +76,7 @@
 
 
 %package common
-Summary:  DejaVu fonts, common files (documentation…)
+Summary:  Common files for Dejavu fonts (documentation…)
 Group:User Interface/X
 Requires: fontpackages-filesystem
 
@@ -90,7 +89,7 @@
 
 
 %package sans
-Summary:  DejaVu, variable-width sans-serif font faces
+Summary:  Variable-width sans-serif font faces
 Group:User Interface/X
 Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 
@@ -107,7 +106,7 @@
 
 
 %package serif
-Summary:  DejaVu, variable-width serif font faces
+Summary:  Variable-width serif font faces
 Group:User Interface/X
 Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 
@@ -124,7 +123,7 @@
 
 
 %package sans-mono
-Summary:  DejaVu, monospace sans-serif font faces
+Summary:  Monospace sans-serif font faces
 Group:User Interface/X
 Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 
@@ -141,7 +140,7 @@
 
 
 %package lgc-sans
-Summary:  DejaVu, variable-width sans-serif font faces, Latin-Greek-Cyrillic 
subset
+Summary:  Variable-width sans-serif font faces, Latin-Greek-Cyrillic subset
 Group:User Interface/X
 Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 
@@ -157,7 +156,7 @@
 
 
 %package lgc-serif
-Summary:  DejaVu, variable-width serif font faces, Latin-Greek-Cyrillic subset
+Summary:  Variable-width serif font faces, Latin-Greek-Cyrillic subset
 Group:User Interface/X
 Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 
@@ -173,7 +172,7 @@
 
 
 %package lgc-sans-mono
-Summary:  DejaVu, monospace sans-serif font faces, Latin-Greek-Cyrillic subset
+Summary:  Monospace sans-serif font faces, Latin-Greek-Cyrillic subset
 Group:User Interface/X
 Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 
@@ -190,7 +189,6 @@
 
 %prep
 %setup -q -n %{archivename}
-%patch0 -p1
 
 
 %build
@@ -239,6 +237,13 @@
 
 
 %changelog
+* Sun Dec 21 2008 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net
+- 2.28-1
+❄ Update to latest release
+❅ Drop upstreamed fontconfig patch
+❆ Remove DejaVu from most summaries
+
+
 * Sat Dec  6 2008 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net
 - 2.27-7
 ß¹ Add explicit conflicts to help yum


Index: import.log
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/dejavu-fonts/devel/import.log,v
retrieving revision 1.8
retrieving revision 1.9
diff -u -r1.8 -r1.9
--- import.log  17 Dec 2008 20:11:02 -  1.8
+++ import.log  21 Dec 2008 17:18:48 -  1.9
@@ -6,3 +6,4 @@
 dejavu-fonts-2_26-5_fc11:HEAD:dejavu-fonts-2.26-5.fc11.src.rpm:1226174018
 dejavu-fonts-2_26-6_fc11:HEAD:dejavu-fonts-2.26-6.fc11.src.rpm:1226221359
 dejavu-fonts-2_27-7_fc11:HEAD:dejavu-fonts-2.27-7.fc11.src.rpm:1229544635
+dejavu-fonts-2_28-1_fc11:HEAD:dejavu-fonts-2.28-1.fc11.src.rpm:1229879833


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/dejavu-fonts/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.51
retrieving revision 1.52
diff -u -r1.51 -r1.52
--- sources 17 Dec 

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--- Comment #4 from Karen Pease m...@daughtersoftiresias.org  2008-12-21 
13:06:47 EDT ---
Okay, well, I'll work on it whenever I find a way to get access to the
repository working again... as noted in another bug report, I get:

Permission denied (publickey).
cvs [commit aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any)

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--- Comment #6 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2008-12-21 
15:08:13 EDT ---
It all looks like pfa forks of well-known (gs/urw/xorg/dejavu) fonts
Unfortunately those fonts seems all one-of-a-kind

So assuming they're all legit license-wise, you'll probably have to package
them yourself

It's a pity upstream spent time making its own fonts instead of supporting
modern (TTF/OTF/fontconfig) standards.

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--- Comment #7 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2008-12-21 
15:32:49 EDT ---
Thinking about it some more, the correct plan for the htmldoc packager(s) is
probably:

1. long-term: ask upstream to move to fontconfig/freetype/pango/cairo
2. short-term:
 * ask upstream what its original font sources were
 * if those fonts exist in type1 form in Fedora, link them from here
 * if those fonts do not exist in type1 form in Fedora, but have some other
canonical type1 source, package this source properly
 * if they're strictly an htmldoc production, and have no other proper source
(and it can be acertained no license was hurt during their production) package
them as htmldoc sub-packages (one per font family). Assuming upstream was smart
enough to use its own font names and didn't re-use the name of someone else's
font (in which case the fonts need to be rename or they'll conflict with the
real fonts). The subpackage logic can be taken from
/etc/rpmdevtools/spectemplate-fonts-multi.spec

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[Bug 477406] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

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   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED




--- Comment #2 from Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu  2008-12-21 16:22:11 EDT 
---
$ rpm -ql kdeedu | grep ttf
/usr/share/kde4/apps/blinken/fonts/steve.ttf
/usr/share/kde4/apps/khangman/fonts/Domestic_Manners.ttf
/usr/share/kde4/apps/khangman/fonts/Dustismo_Roman.ttf

Per Kevin's investigation, looks like these use sjfonts, dustismo-fonts,
respectively, per
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Steve_Hand_fonts
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Dustimo_fonts
 other links: 
   http://www.dustismo.com/ (down?)
   http://ospublish.constantvzw.org

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[Bug 477407] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

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--- Comment #2 from Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu  2008-12-21 16:26:27 EDT 
---
$ rpm -ql kdelibs | grep ttf
/usr/share/kde4/apps/formulashape/fonts/Arev.ttf
/usr/share/kde4/apps/formulashape/fonts/ArevBI.ttf
/usr/share/kde4/apps/formulashape/fonts/ArevBd.ttf
/usr/share/kde4/apps/formulashape/fonts/ArevIt.ttf
/usr/share/kde4/apps/formulashape/fonts/cmex10.ttf

These look like
http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Bitstream_Vera_derivatives#Arev_Fonts
- The standard characters from Arev have been merged into DejaVu, but there are
mathematical characters in the Private Use Area.

And cmex10 is from tex and/or mathml-fonts.

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[Bug 477409] koffice: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

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 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
Summary|Please convert to new font  |koffice: Please convert to
   |packaging guidelines|new font packaging
   ||guidelines




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[Bug 477423] mathml-fonts: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

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[Bug 477423] mathml-fonts: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Please convert to new font  |mathml-fonts: Please
   |packaging guidelines|convert to new font
   ||packaging guidelines




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[Bug 461139] Review Request: arabeyes-thabit-fonts

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #34 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2008-12-21 
16:43:51 EDT ---
[This is a simplified version of the message sent to every package maintainer
that ships TTF/OTF/Type1 fonts in Fedora.]

Our font packaging guidelines have now changed. New font package submissions
must now be adapted to the new templates available in the fontpackages-devel
package:
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/fontpackages
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Simple_fonts_spec_template
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fonts_spec_template_for_multiple_fonts

It is preferred to create a font package or subpackage per font family, though
it is not currently a hard guidelines requirement.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Font_package_splitting_rules_(2008-12-21)
has been submitted for FPC and FESCO approval today.

The new templates should make the creation of font packages easy and safe. 

The following packages have already been converted by their packager in
fedora-devel and can serve as examples:
❄ abyssinica-fonts
❄ andika-fonts
❄ apanov-heuristica-fonts
❄ bitstream-vera-fonts
❄ charis-fonts
❄ dejavu-fonts
❄ ecolier-court-fonts
❄ edrip-fonts
❄ gfs-ambrosia-fonts
❄ gfs-artemisia-fonts
❄ gfs-baskerville-fonts
❄ gfs-bodoni-classic-fonts
❄ gfs-bodoni-fonts
❄ gfs-complutum-fonts
❄ gfs-didot-classic-fonts
❄ gfs-didot-fonts
❄ gfs-eustace-fonts
❄ gfs-fleischman-fonts
❄ gfs-garaldus-fonts
❄ gfs-gazis-fonts
❄ gfs-jackson-fonts
❄ gfs-neohellenic-fonts
❄ gfs-nicefore-fonts
❄ gfs-olga-fonts
❄ gfs-porson-fonts
❄ gfs-solomos-fonts
❄ gfs-theokritos-fonts
❄ nafees-web-naskh-fonts
❄ stix-fonts
❄ yanone-kaffeesatz-fonts

The new spec templates have been designed to be easy to update to from the
previous guidelines, and to remove complexity from font packages. To help new
package creation the fontpackages-devel package has been made available in
Fedora 9 and 10.

If you have any remaining questions about the new guidelines please ask them
on:
fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com

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[Bug 476720] Review Request: beteckna-sfd-fonts - Beteckna fonts

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476720





--- Comment #2 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2008-12-21 
16:43:59 EDT ---
[This is a simplified version of the message sent to every package maintainer
that ships TTF/OTF/Type1 fonts in Fedora.]

Our font packaging guidelines have now changed. New font package submissions
must now be adapted to the new templates available in the fontpackages-devel
package:
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/fontpackages
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Simple_fonts_spec_template
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fonts_spec_template_for_multiple_fonts

It is preferred to create a font package or subpackage per font family, though
it is not currently a hard guidelines requirement.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Font_package_splitting_rules_(2008-12-21)
has been submitted for FPC and FESCO approval today.

The new templates should make the creation of font packages easy and safe. 

The following packages have already been converted by their packager in
fedora-devel and can serve as examples:
❄ abyssinica-fonts
❄ andika-fonts
❄ apanov-heuristica-fonts
❄ bitstream-vera-fonts
❄ charis-fonts
❄ dejavu-fonts
❄ ecolier-court-fonts
❄ edrip-fonts
❄ gfs-ambrosia-fonts
❄ gfs-artemisia-fonts
❄ gfs-baskerville-fonts
❄ gfs-bodoni-classic-fonts
❄ gfs-bodoni-fonts
❄ gfs-complutum-fonts
❄ gfs-didot-classic-fonts
❄ gfs-didot-fonts
❄ gfs-eustace-fonts
❄ gfs-fleischman-fonts
❄ gfs-garaldus-fonts
❄ gfs-gazis-fonts
❄ gfs-jackson-fonts
❄ gfs-neohellenic-fonts
❄ gfs-nicefore-fonts
❄ gfs-olga-fonts
❄ gfs-porson-fonts
❄ gfs-solomos-fonts
❄ gfs-theokritos-fonts
❄ nafees-web-naskh-fonts
❄ stix-fonts
❄ yanone-kaffeesatz-fonts

The new spec templates have been designed to be easy to update to from the
previous guidelines, and to remove complexity from font packages. To help new
package creation the fontpackages-devel package has been made available in
Fedora 9 and 10.

If you have any remaining questions about the new guidelines please ask them
on:
fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com

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[Bug 462711] Review Request: Mothanna-fonts - Mothanna-fonts from Arabeyes.org

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #4 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2008-12-21 
16:43:53 EDT ---
[This is a simplified version of the message sent to every package maintainer
that ships TTF/OTF/Type1 fonts in Fedora.]

Our font packaging guidelines have now changed. New font package submissions
must now be adapted to the new templates available in the fontpackages-devel
package:
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/fontpackages
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Simple_fonts_spec_template
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fonts_spec_template_for_multiple_fonts

It is preferred to create a font package or subpackage per font family, though
it is not currently a hard guidelines requirement.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Font_package_splitting_rules_(2008-12-21)
has been submitted for FPC and FESCO approval today.

The new templates should make the creation of font packages easy and safe. 

The following packages have already been converted by their packager in
fedora-devel and can serve as examples:
❄ abyssinica-fonts
❄ andika-fonts
❄ apanov-heuristica-fonts
❄ bitstream-vera-fonts
❄ charis-fonts
❄ dejavu-fonts
❄ ecolier-court-fonts
❄ edrip-fonts
❄ gfs-ambrosia-fonts
❄ gfs-artemisia-fonts
❄ gfs-baskerville-fonts
❄ gfs-bodoni-classic-fonts
❄ gfs-bodoni-fonts
❄ gfs-complutum-fonts
❄ gfs-didot-classic-fonts
❄ gfs-didot-fonts
❄ gfs-eustace-fonts
❄ gfs-fleischman-fonts
❄ gfs-garaldus-fonts
❄ gfs-gazis-fonts
❄ gfs-jackson-fonts
❄ gfs-neohellenic-fonts
❄ gfs-nicefore-fonts
❄ gfs-olga-fonts
❄ gfs-porson-fonts
❄ gfs-solomos-fonts
❄ gfs-theokritos-fonts
❄ nafees-web-naskh-fonts
❄ stix-fonts
❄ yanone-kaffeesatz-fonts

The new spec templates have been designed to be easy to update to from the
previous guidelines, and to remove complexity from font packages. To help new
package creation the fontpackages-devel package has been made available in
Fedora 9 and 10.

If you have any remaining questions about the new guidelines please ask them
on:
fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com

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[Bug 456527] Review Request: gentium-basic-fonts - Gentium Basic Font Family

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #14 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2008-12-21 
16:43:44 EDT ---
[This is a simplified version of the message sent to every package maintainer
that ships TTF/OTF/Type1 fonts in Fedora.]

Our font packaging guidelines have now changed. New font package submissions
must now be adapted to the new templates available in the fontpackages-devel
package:
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/fontpackages
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Simple_fonts_spec_template
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fonts_spec_template_for_multiple_fonts

It is preferred to create a font package or subpackage per font family, though
it is not currently a hard guidelines requirement.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Font_package_splitting_rules_(2008-12-21)
has been submitted for FPC and FESCO approval today.

The new templates should make the creation of font packages easy and safe. 

The following packages have already been converted by their packager in
fedora-devel and can serve as examples:
❄ abyssinica-fonts
❄ andika-fonts
❄ apanov-heuristica-fonts
❄ bitstream-vera-fonts
❄ charis-fonts
❄ dejavu-fonts
❄ ecolier-court-fonts
❄ edrip-fonts
❄ gfs-ambrosia-fonts
❄ gfs-artemisia-fonts
❄ gfs-baskerville-fonts
❄ gfs-bodoni-classic-fonts
❄ gfs-bodoni-fonts
❄ gfs-complutum-fonts
❄ gfs-didot-classic-fonts
❄ gfs-didot-fonts
❄ gfs-eustace-fonts
❄ gfs-fleischman-fonts
❄ gfs-garaldus-fonts
❄ gfs-gazis-fonts
❄ gfs-jackson-fonts
❄ gfs-neohellenic-fonts
❄ gfs-nicefore-fonts
❄ gfs-olga-fonts
❄ gfs-porson-fonts
❄ gfs-solomos-fonts
❄ gfs-theokritos-fonts
❄ nafees-web-naskh-fonts
❄ stix-fonts
❄ yanone-kaffeesatz-fonts

The new spec templates have been designed to be easy to update to from the
previous guidelines, and to remove complexity from font packages. To help new
package creation the fontpackages-devel package has been made available in
Fedora 9 and 10.

If you have any remaining questions about the new guidelines please ask them
on:
fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com

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[Bug 467507] Review Request: Rufscript-fonts - Rufscripts is a decorative handwriting based font

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=467507





--- Comment #4 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2008-12-21 
16:43:57 EDT ---
[This is a simplified version of the message sent to every package maintainer
that ships TTF/OTF/Type1 fonts in Fedora.]

Our font packaging guidelines have now changed. New font package submissions
must now be adapted to the new templates available in the fontpackages-devel
package:
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/fontpackages
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Simple_fonts_spec_template
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fonts_spec_template_for_multiple_fonts

It is preferred to create a font package or subpackage per font family, though
it is not currently a hard guidelines requirement.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Font_package_splitting_rules_(2008-12-21)
has been submitted for FPC and FESCO approval today.

The new templates should make the creation of font packages easy and safe. 

The following packages have already been converted by their packager in
fedora-devel and can serve as examples:
❄ abyssinica-fonts
❄ andika-fonts
❄ apanov-heuristica-fonts
❄ bitstream-vera-fonts
❄ charis-fonts
❄ dejavu-fonts
❄ ecolier-court-fonts
❄ edrip-fonts
❄ gfs-ambrosia-fonts
❄ gfs-artemisia-fonts
❄ gfs-baskerville-fonts
❄ gfs-bodoni-classic-fonts
❄ gfs-bodoni-fonts
❄ gfs-complutum-fonts
❄ gfs-didot-classic-fonts
❄ gfs-didot-fonts
❄ gfs-eustace-fonts
❄ gfs-fleischman-fonts
❄ gfs-garaldus-fonts
❄ gfs-gazis-fonts
❄ gfs-jackson-fonts
❄ gfs-neohellenic-fonts
❄ gfs-nicefore-fonts
❄ gfs-olga-fonts
❄ gfs-porson-fonts
❄ gfs-solomos-fonts
❄ gfs-theokritos-fonts
❄ nafees-web-naskh-fonts
❄ stix-fonts
❄ yanone-kaffeesatz-fonts

The new spec templates have been designed to be easy to update to from the
previous guidelines, and to remove complexity from font packages. To help new
package creation the fontpackages-devel package has been made available in
Fedora 9 and 10.

If you have any remaining questions about the new guidelines please ask them
on:
fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com

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[Bug 477406] kdeedu: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Please convert to new font  |kdeedu: Please convert to
   |packaging guidelines|new font packaging
   ||guidelines




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[Bug 477407] kdelibs: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477407





--- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2008-12-21 
16:57:17 EDT ---
1. If DejaVu is not good enough for kde, please submit an Arev font package and
then depend on it
2. Likewise we have a ton of math fonts in the distro (asana, stix…) but if
those are not good enough please submit a font package for cmex10

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[Bug 477551] New: RFE Add fontconfig file checking

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: RFE Add fontconfig file checking

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477551

   Summary: RFE Add fontconfig file checking
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: All
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: medium
  Priority: low
 Component: rpmlint
AssignedTo: ville.sky...@iki.fi
ReportedBy: nicolas.mail...@laposte.net
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: wo...@nobugconsulting.ro, t...@pobox.com,
ville.sky...@iki.fi, fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com
Classification: Fedora


As suggested by Jens Petersen the package review tools such as rpm should be
enhanced to check fontconfig files provided by packagers are well-formed.

This check could take two forms:
1. check that all the files in %_fontconfig_templatedir are well-formed-XML
2. check that they conform to the current fontconfig DTD (this test probably
requires for the fontconfig packager to register it in the system XML catalogs
but Behdad is working on a new release right now so that's a good time to ask)

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[Bug 466193] Review Request: alee-fonts - Korean TrueType Fonts

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466193





--- Comment #5 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2008-12-21 
16:43:55 EDT ---
[This is a simplified version of the message sent to every package maintainer
that ships TTF/OTF/Type1 fonts in Fedora.]

Our font packaging guidelines have now changed. New font package submissions
must now be adapted to the new templates available in the fontpackages-devel
package:
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/fontpackages
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Simple_fonts_spec_template
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fonts_spec_template_for_multiple_fonts

It is preferred to create a font package or subpackage per font family, though
it is not currently a hard guidelines requirement.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Font_package_splitting_rules_(2008-12-21)
has been submitted for FPC and FESCO approval today.

The new templates should make the creation of font packages easy and safe. 

The following packages have already been converted by their packager in
fedora-devel and can serve as examples:
❄ abyssinica-fonts
❄ andika-fonts
❄ apanov-heuristica-fonts
❄ bitstream-vera-fonts
❄ charis-fonts
❄ dejavu-fonts
❄ ecolier-court-fonts
❄ edrip-fonts
❄ gfs-ambrosia-fonts
❄ gfs-artemisia-fonts
❄ gfs-baskerville-fonts
❄ gfs-bodoni-classic-fonts
❄ gfs-bodoni-fonts
❄ gfs-complutum-fonts
❄ gfs-didot-classic-fonts
❄ gfs-didot-fonts
❄ gfs-eustace-fonts
❄ gfs-fleischman-fonts
❄ gfs-garaldus-fonts
❄ gfs-gazis-fonts
❄ gfs-jackson-fonts
❄ gfs-neohellenic-fonts
❄ gfs-nicefore-fonts
❄ gfs-olga-fonts
❄ gfs-porson-fonts
❄ gfs-solomos-fonts
❄ gfs-theokritos-fonts
❄ nafees-web-naskh-fonts
❄ stix-fonts
❄ yanone-kaffeesatz-fonts

The new spec templates have been designed to be easy to update to from the
previous guidelines, and to remove complexity from font packages. To help new
package creation the fontpackages-devel package has been made available in
Fedora 9 and 10.

If you have any remaining questions about the new guidelines please ask them
on:
fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com

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[Bug 477406] kdeedu: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2008-12-21 
16:59:38 EDT ---
Those are all in the Fedora wishlist. Clean packages would be appreciated (and
would made the fonts available to all the fontconfig apps)

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[Bug 457955] Review Request: bonvenocf-fonts - BonvenoCF font

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=457955





--- Comment #13 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2008-12-21 
16:43:48 EDT ---
[This is a simplified version of the message sent to every package maintainer
that ships TTF/OTF/Type1 fonts in Fedora.]

Our font packaging guidelines have now changed. New font package submissions
must now be adapted to the new templates available in the fontpackages-devel
package:
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/fontpackages
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Simple_fonts_spec_template
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fonts_spec_template_for_multiple_fonts

It is preferred to create a font package or subpackage per font family, though
it is not currently a hard guidelines requirement.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Font_package_splitting_rules_(2008-12-21)
has been submitted for FPC and FESCO approval today.

The new templates should make the creation of font packages easy and safe. 

The following packages have already been converted by their packager in
fedora-devel and can serve as examples:
❄ abyssinica-fonts
❄ andika-fonts
❄ apanov-heuristica-fonts
❄ bitstream-vera-fonts
❄ charis-fonts
❄ dejavu-fonts
❄ ecolier-court-fonts
❄ edrip-fonts
❄ gfs-ambrosia-fonts
❄ gfs-artemisia-fonts
❄ gfs-baskerville-fonts
❄ gfs-bodoni-classic-fonts
❄ gfs-bodoni-fonts
❄ gfs-complutum-fonts
❄ gfs-didot-classic-fonts
❄ gfs-didot-fonts
❄ gfs-eustace-fonts
❄ gfs-fleischman-fonts
❄ gfs-garaldus-fonts
❄ gfs-gazis-fonts
❄ gfs-jackson-fonts
❄ gfs-neohellenic-fonts
❄ gfs-nicefore-fonts
❄ gfs-olga-fonts
❄ gfs-porson-fonts
❄ gfs-solomos-fonts
❄ gfs-theokritos-fonts
❄ nafees-web-naskh-fonts
❄ stix-fonts
❄ yanone-kaffeesatz-fonts

The new spec templates have been designed to be easy to update to from the
previous guidelines, and to remove complexity from font packages. To help new
package creation the fontpackages-devel package has been made available in
Fedora 9 and 10.

If you have any remaining questions about the new guidelines please ask them
on:
fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com

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[Bug 457709] Review Request: perizia-fonts - English asymmetric font

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--- Comment #5 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2008-12-21 
16:43:46 EDT ---
[This is a simplified version of the message sent to every package maintainer
that ships TTF/OTF/Type1 fonts in Fedora.]

Our font packaging guidelines have now changed. New font package submissions
must now be adapted to the new templates available in the fontpackages-devel
package:
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/fontpackages
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Simple_fonts_spec_template
 – http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fonts_spec_template_for_multiple_fonts

It is preferred to create a font package or subpackage per font family, though
it is not currently a hard guidelines requirement.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Font_package_splitting_rules_(2008-12-21)
has been submitted for FPC and FESCO approval today.

The new templates should make the creation of font packages easy and safe. 

The following packages have already been converted by their packager in
fedora-devel and can serve as examples:
❄ abyssinica-fonts
❄ andika-fonts
❄ apanov-heuristica-fonts
❄ bitstream-vera-fonts
❄ charis-fonts
❄ dejavu-fonts
❄ ecolier-court-fonts
❄ edrip-fonts
❄ gfs-ambrosia-fonts
❄ gfs-artemisia-fonts
❄ gfs-baskerville-fonts
❄ gfs-bodoni-classic-fonts
❄ gfs-bodoni-fonts
❄ gfs-complutum-fonts
❄ gfs-didot-classic-fonts
❄ gfs-didot-fonts
❄ gfs-eustace-fonts
❄ gfs-fleischman-fonts
❄ gfs-garaldus-fonts
❄ gfs-gazis-fonts
❄ gfs-jackson-fonts
❄ gfs-neohellenic-fonts
❄ gfs-nicefore-fonts
❄ gfs-olga-fonts
❄ gfs-porson-fonts
❄ gfs-solomos-fonts
❄ gfs-theokritos-fonts
❄ nafees-web-naskh-fonts
❄ stix-fonts
❄ yanone-kaffeesatz-fonts

The new spec templates have been designed to be easy to update to from the
previous guidelines, and to remove complexity from font packages. To help new
package creation the fontpackages-devel package has been made available in
Fedora 9 and 10.

If you have any remaining questions about the new guidelines please ask them
on:
fedora-fonts-list at redhat.com

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[Bug 477384] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams ivazquez...@gmail.com changed:

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 Resolution|NOTABUG |RAWHIDE




--- Comment #4 from Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams ivazquez...@gmail.com  2008-12-21 
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Alright, I tore out the private font since its license is unsuitable for
Fedora, and made feh use DejaVu Sans instead.

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[Bug 457947] Review Request: oldstandard-sfd-fonts - Old Standard Fonts

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #23 from Martin-Gomez Pablo pablo.martin-go...@laposte.net  
2008-12-21 18:39:29 EDT ---
I have some problems with a /home partition corrupted currently. I will try to
review this this week. It seems that we are near to the end of the review :-)

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[Bug 477371] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #2 from Victor Bogado bog...@bogado.net  2008-12-21 18:53:42 EDT 
---
I have several problems to create a package for this font. 
- This font is not complete, it only has the main characters.
- The font has been altered for the game, for it didn't even had numbers.
- The upstream site does not have a download link, in fact the site is in flash
and I cannot even put a link to the font page.

The only solution I can see for this is the following, create a sub package for
the game that packages only the font. So the upstream becomes the altered font
for the game.

My opinion is that the incomplete font is not very useful for much else then
the game, that's why I packaged it with the game ignoring the avoid bundling
font... rule.

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[Bug 378338] Deal with X servers which misreport the screen's dimensions

2008-12-21 Thread gnome-control-center (bugzilla.gnome.org)
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--- Comment #50 from Ryan Hayle  2008-12-22 00:39 UTC ---
What is the status of this bug?  It is marked fixed, and hasn't had any
activity in over a year, yet GNOME 2.24.1 (at least in Ubuntu 8.10) still seems
to default to 96 DPI regardless of my physical screen DPI.  Is this
Ubuntu-specific?  I would very much like to see this bug resolved, as currently
only one of my 4 displays runs at 96 DPI.  My laptop is at 147 dpi, and my
netbook is 134.  I agree with all the arguments made by Nicolas Mailhot above,
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[Bug 477397] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #8 from Adam Goode a...@spicenitz.org  2008-12-21 21:10:14 EDT ---
Any day now I am expecting twins to arrive, so I don't think I will have enough
time to properly address this issue. Anyone who would like to fix this problem
if very welcome to co-maintain! :)

Besides this issue, the package is basically stable and low-maintenance. It
comes from the same upstream as CUPS. (Not sure if that's changed since the
Apple deal.)

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[Bug 462038] Hotkeys has no response and Go To window couldn't be inputted.

2008-12-21 Thread bugzilla
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   Flag||needinfo?(ccha...@redhat.co
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--- Comment #10 from Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com  2008-12-21 22:59:48 
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Can you test the latest build in rahide when you have time, Caius?

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[Bug 462038] Hotkeys has no response and Go To window couldn't be inputted.

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--- Comment #11 from Caius CHANCE ccha...@redhat.com  2008-12-22 01:33:42 EDT 
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It worked on my rawhide (F10 + yum update to rawhide), on 22 Dec 2008.

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[Bug 477458] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

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[Bug 477451] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

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Font package splitting clarification

2008-12-21 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Hi all,

Since the discussion on font package splitting rules seems to be
exhausted, and since no one stepped up with an obviously better proposal
than mine, I've queued the following FPC-side:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Font_package_splitting_rules_(2008-12-21)

I've tried to integrate all the exceptions that were brought up during
the discussion and that were consensual, and to separate the rules from
their rationale (so packagers in a hurry only need to read the first
part). I've ended up with four simple master rules that should not be
open to interpretation.

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Help with new font packaging guidelines (choosing font family)

2008-12-21 Thread Marcin Garski

Hi,

I'm trying to convert my packages (jomolhari-fonts, 
tibetan-machine-uni-fonts) to new font packaging guidelines.

I've encounter one problem that stops me from filling all guidelines.
I don't know the right font family (serif, sans serif, other?) for both 
fonts, so I can't create a fontconf files.


How can I find/known this font family (both fonts represents Tibetan 
script which I don't know)?


BTW. If both fonts are installed TMU is selected as a primary font for 
displaying Dzongkha text, is there a way to set fontconfig to prefer 
Jomolhari when dealing with Dzongkha text and TMU when displaying 
Tibetan text (Jomolhari is better for Dzongkha text and TMU for Tibetan 
text).


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Noisy cron

2008-12-21 Thread Jesse Keating
Could somebody start looking into the noisy cron jobs?  We seem to have
quite a few that are failing or spitting unnecessary text out into
email.  Could be a fun project for somebody looking to get familiar with
Infrastructure, since the jobs seem to span all parts of our realm.

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Re: 1-second kernel

2008-12-21 Thread NiftyFedora Mitch
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 11:43 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
 Tim:
 Five seconds is probably ambitious, but I still like how my old Amiga
 would COLD BOOT in 13 seconds, warm boot was 11 seconds.  That's from
 off, to fully working system.

 g:
 also, think about how much memory you had and was it 8 bit. hard drives?

 No, not 8 bits.  ;-)  But there was an efficiency about it that isn't
 around these days:  You didn't make something multi-megabyte unless you
 had to.  You don't run a server unless you have to (right now, or at
 all).  Such as print servers if you don't need them, nor until you
 actually go to print.

Interesting discussion
There are two places to pay critical attention to first:

  A.  hardware initialization.

For a system to boot all hardware has to be known in advance.
NO probes that time out for this and that...  SCSI timers are LONG...
No probe of USB this and that.

To that end building a kernel with your devices built in it
can help. Exclude any driver that you do not have hardware for.
Keep a vanilla kitchen sink kernel everything kernel as a safety net.
Perhaps on a USB or LiveCD.

  B. Network timers.

Network timers are much longer than we all expect... Ensure that
all name servers and network knowledge that can be hardwired is. No DHCP no
discovery of name servers.   Snoop the net (dumb hub, second machine) and
watch for timeouts and other traffic you do not expect.

As others indicated most but not all services can be disabled
and started later.   sudo service cups start can be run long after
you login.

For example X11 takes a lot longer to start than I expect.. in part because the
window manager desktop has all sorts of live buttons and widgets.   Clean up as
much as you can without X11 i.e. login on a simple text window... and
use 'startx'...

It is possible to use 'find' to discover all the files that have been
accessed (opened)
do an audit and find out why for each of them... all libs all programs...

Profile anything that might run prior to a shell prompt you can in isolation.

Simplify all that you can.

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Re: Comcast permanent block on port 25

2008-12-21 Thread NiftyFedora Mitch
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 6:53 AM, tom tfree...@intel.digichem.net wrote:
 On Fri, 19 Dec 2008, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 16:00:29 -0600,
  Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:

 The low cost residential account comes with terms that say you won't run
 servers on it.  If you aren't running a server, it doesn't matter much
 if they block port 25 or not.

 Except whether or not you run a server has little to do with how much
 it costs them to provide that service. And this there was actual
 competition,
 that wouldn't be able to get away with that artificial market
 segmentation.

 Sorry to chime in late. But...

 I agree with your point, and find our mutual position pointless. You enter
 into an agreement with the isp. Live up to your end of the agreement.

Also late...

Port 25 in and out may be negotiated in some areas...
The default in my area was to block it but a polite call to SBC
unblocked it for me.
I still had issues at the other end as my reverse DNS was known home DHCP
class sites and I had to use them as a 'smart' host.

HTTP is more interesting... as it can be a business but without a
fixed IP address
dynamic DNS is seen as wonky  ... However a personal site with limited
traffic can also serve students homework.  But it need not be on port 80.

Look into various hosting or co-location solutions some are much
less expensive than
good bandwidth to the home.

I recently moved and the home network solution here sux and is
expensive.  Time for
me to write a note to my state regulators.


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Re: PackageKit has eaten my system (again!)

2008-12-21 Thread Richard Hughes
On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 22:36 +0100, DB wrote:
 I just did the latest batch of F9 PackageKit updates - with disastrous
 effect! (See attached list)

I don't see how applying the updates removed yum. Did you try removing
yum manually?

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Re: Hidden download performance problem with Fedora 6-10

2008-12-21 Thread NiftyFedora Mitch
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Joshua C. joshua...@googlemail.com wrote:
 +1

 I've seen really fast mirrors but when it comes to update the speed
 drops to ~300kbps. when directly downloading from a mirror I get ~
 1,6mbps. with other distro I haven't seen this, though. it is not a
 connection problem but a fedora problem (I think).

 if i can assist, let me know.

 2008/12/19, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com:
 On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:39:31 -0800
 Chuck ctl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have not used Fedora because of the following issue.

 I get VERY SLOW performance or hangs when downloading from
 repositories etc. on every Fedora version I have tried.  I have seen
 users raising this issue since Fedora Core 4.  So I can't use Fedora;
 but would like to.  I apologize for the length of the message.  I
 have tried the Forum but got no help there.

 ...snip...

 Non-stop.  Just over an hour duration.  Full speed and ON THE VERY
 SAME HARDWARE.


It appears that there is a bandwidth shaper involved ...
It is not uncommon for ISPs to hobble links when they
detect some types of download.

Also when packets are lost the link speed and TCP/IP window for the
download is reshaped.  One Vista I see what you see so I am inclined
to believe that the network has issues.

I would use the bandwidth limits of curl or wget to see if I can
keep under the rate that triggers packet loss or detection triggers.

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RE: FC10 does not boot when HDD moved to another machine

2008-12-21 Thread Frank Millman
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 
 Frank Millman wrote:
  
  Still no luck, I am afraid. This is what I have done.
  
  #chroot /mnt/sysimage.
  
  'uname -r' shows 2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i586
  
  I ran 'mkinitrd -v /boot/test.img 2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i586'. 
 I put the 
  -v in to see what was happening, but it just returns to the 
 prompt silently.
  
 I think that should be:
 
 mkinitrd -v /boot/test.img 2.6.27.5-117.fc10
 
 (no .586)
 
  #ls /boot shows nothing - I don't think it is mounted.
  
 easy fix - mount /boot after running chroot.
 
 I am surprised that you did not get an error when it could 
 not find the kernel.
 
 No modules available for kernel 2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i586
 

Thanks for your patience, Mikkel. I think I am getting closer.

I tried the suggestion of running 'yum update kernel' while in rescue mode
on the second machine. It seemed to work, but it still would not boot.

I put the drive back in the original machine, and it booted ok. The problem
with X freezing seems to have gone away, so I will use it in this machine as
originally intended. However, I would still like to complete the exercise of
getting it to boot in the other machine. (Aarhg, I spoke to soon! I just
tried it again and it has frozen. However, that is a topic for another
thread ...)

I ran 'yum update', which updated 53 packages. As mentioned I had previously
run 'yum update kernel'. The kernel now seems to be 2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i686.
However, uname -r still shows 2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i586. What is the official
way of finding out which kernel is running?

I ran mkinitrd on the original machine, just to see if it would work. If I
type 'mkinitrd -v /boot/test.img 2.6.27.7-134.fc10' (without the .i686), I
get the message 'No  modules available ...' If I include the '.i686', it
works, and creates /boot/test.img.

I don't know how to tell it to use the new image. Is there a way to change
boot options without booting off the intstallation dvd and selecting 'rescue
mode'? I did boot in rescue mode, and tried 'initrd=test.img' and
'initrd=/boot/test.img', but in both cases it said it could not find
test.img.

You mentioned modifying grub.conf, but I do not have a grub directory in
/boot at all. There is an an entry in /etc for grub.conf, but it is a link
to /boot/grub/grub.conf, so it cannot find it.

I then moved the HDD back to the second machine and booted in rescue mode.
This time 'ls /boot' did show the contents correctly - the previous problem
where it did not seem to be mounted has gone away. I ran mkinitrd and it
worked, but I still don't know how to tell it to use the new image. I tried
saving '/boot/initrd-2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i686.img', and then copying
'test.img' over it, but when I tried booting normally I got the original
error message -

Volume group VolGroup00 not found
Unable to access resume device (/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01)
mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as ext3: No such file or
directory 

I suspect that I am closer, and my problem now is that I don't know how to
tell it to use the new image. Hopefully someone can give me a nudge in the
right direction.

Thanks again

Frank

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Re: dbus preventing system-config-services from running

2008-12-21 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2008-12-21 at 08:53 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 upgrade also processes Obsoletes tags. You should always use
 upgrade.

According to /etc/yum.conf that's already done.

obsoletes=1

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Re: FC10 does not boot when HDD moved to another machine

2008-12-21 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Frank Millman fr...@chagford.com wrote:

 Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 
  Frank Millman wrote:
  
   Still no luck, I am afraid. This is what I have done.
  
   #chroot /mnt/sysimage.
  
   'uname -r' shows 2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i586
  
   I ran 'mkinitrd -v /boot/test.img 2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i586'.
  I put the
   -v in to see what was happening, but it just returns to the
  prompt silently.
  
  I think that should be:
 
  mkinitrd -v /boot/test.img 2.6.27.5-117.fc10
 
  (no .586)
 
   #ls /boot shows nothing - I don't think it is mounted.
  
  easy fix - mount /boot after running chroot.
 
  I am surprised that you did not get an error when it could
  not find the kernel.
 
  No modules available for kernel 2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i586
 

 Thanks for your patience, Mikkel. I think I am getting closer.

 I tried the suggestion of running 'yum update kernel' while in rescue mode
 on the second machine. It seemed to work, but it still would not boot.

 I put the drive back in the original machine, and it booted ok. The problem
 with X freezing seems to have gone away, so I will use it in this machine
 as
 originally intended. However, I would still like to complete the exercise
 of
 getting it to boot in the other machine. (Aarhg, I spoke to soon! I just
 tried it again and it has frozen. However, that is a topic for another
 thread ...)

 I ran 'yum update', which updated 53 packages. As mentioned I had
 previously
 run 'yum update kernel'. The kernel now seems to be 2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i686.
 However, uname -r still shows 2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i586. What is the official
 way of finding out which kernel is running?

 I ran mkinitrd on the original machine, just to see if it would work. If I
 type 'mkinitrd -v /boot/test.img 2.6.27.7-134.fc10' (without the .i686), I
 get the message 'No  modules available ...' If I include the '.i686', it
 works, and creates /boot/test.img.

 I don't know how to tell it to use the new image. Is there a way to change
 boot options without booting off the intstallation dvd and selecting
 'rescue
 mode'? I did boot in rescue mode, and tried 'initrd=test.img' and
 'initrd=/boot/test.img', but in both cases it said it could not find
 test.img.

 You mentioned modifying grub.conf, but I do not have a grub directory in
 /boot at all. There is an an entry in /etc for grub.conf, but it is a link
 to /boot/grub/grub.conf, so it cannot find it.

 I then moved the HDD back to the second machine and booted in rescue mode.
 This time 'ls /boot' did show the contents correctly - the previous problem
 where it did not seem to be mounted has gone away. I ran mkinitrd and it
 worked, but I still don't know how to tell it to use the new image. I tried
 saving '/boot/initrd-2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i686.img', and then copying
 'test.img' over it, but when I tried booting normally I got the original
 error message -

 Volume group VolGroup00 not found
 Unable to access resume device (/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01)
 mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as ext3: No such file or
 directory

 I suspect that I am closer, and my problem now is that I don't know how to
 tell it to use the new image. Hopefully someone can give me a nudge in the
 right direction.



What does

rpm -qa --queryformat %{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.{ARCH}\n|grep
kernel|sort

return?

Also, what do you have in /etc/grub.conf?


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Re: FC10 does not boot when HDD moved to another machine

2008-12-21 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Paulo Cavalcanti pro...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Frank Millman fr...@chagford.com wrote:

 Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 
  Frank Millman wrote:
  
   Still no luck, I am afraid. This is what I have done.
  
   #chroot /mnt/sysimage.
  
   'uname -r' shows 2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i586
  
   I ran 'mkinitrd -v /boot/test.img 2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i586'.
  I put the
   -v in to see what was happening, but it just returns to the
  prompt silently.
  
  I think that should be:
 
  mkinitrd -v /boot/test.img 2.6.27.5-117.fc10
 
  (no .586)
 
   #ls /boot shows nothing - I don't think it is mounted.
  
  easy fix - mount /boot after running chroot.
 
  I am surprised that you did not get an error when it could
  not find the kernel.
 
  No modules available for kernel 2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i586
 

 Thanks for your patience, Mikkel. I think I am getting closer.

 I tried the suggestion of running 'yum update kernel' while in rescue mode
 on the second machine. It seemed to work, but it still would not boot.

 I put the drive back in the original machine, and it booted ok. The
 problem
 with X freezing seems to have gone away, so I will use it in this machine
 as
 originally intended. However, I would still like to complete the exercise
 of
 getting it to boot in the other machine. (Aarhg, I spoke to soon! I just
 tried it again and it has frozen. However, that is a topic for another
 thread ...)

 I ran 'yum update', which updated 53 packages. As mentioned I had
 previously
 run 'yum update kernel'. The kernel now seems to be
 2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i686.
 However, uname -r still shows 2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i586. What is the official
 way of finding out which kernel is running?

 I ran mkinitrd on the original machine, just to see if it would work. If I
 type 'mkinitrd -v /boot/test.img 2.6.27.7-134.fc10' (without the .i686), I
 get the message 'No  modules available ...' If I include the '.i686', it
 works, and creates /boot/test.img.

 I don't know how to tell it to use the new image. Is there a way to change
 boot options without booting off the intstallation dvd and selecting
 'rescue
 mode'? I did boot in rescue mode, and tried 'initrd=test.img' and
 'initrd=/boot/test.img', but in both cases it said it could not find
 test.img.

 You mentioned modifying grub.conf, but I do not have a grub directory in
 /boot at all. There is an an entry in /etc for grub.conf, but it is a link
 to /boot/grub/grub.conf, so it cannot find it.

 I then moved the HDD back to the second machine and booted in rescue mode.
 This time 'ls /boot' did show the contents correctly - the previous
 problem
 where it did not seem to be mounted has gone away. I ran mkinitrd and it
 worked, but I still don't know how to tell it to use the new image. I
 tried
 saving '/boot/initrd-2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i686.img', and then copying
 'test.img' over it, but when I tried booting normally I got the original
 error message -

 Volume group VolGroup00 not found
 Unable to access resume device (/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01)
 mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as ext3: No such file or
 directory

 I suspect that I am closer, and my problem now is that I don't know how to
 tell it to use the new image. Hopefully someone can give me a nudge in the
 right direction.



 What does

 rpm -qa --queryformat %{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.{ARCH}\n|grep
 kernel|sort

 return?

 Also, what do you have in /etc/grub.conf?



Sorry. It is

rpm -qa --queryformat %{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}.%{ARCH}\n | grep
kernel | sort


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X session frozes

2008-12-21 Thread Patrick Dupre

Hello,

After I installed Fedora10 from scratch, I start in text mode, log and
startx. Then I got the Fedora background image and the arrow pointer
but not the time shape around, and it stay frozed here. I have to
reboot with an hardware switch.
It is a Radeon RV100 QY (Radeon 7000/VE) with a monitor 1600 x 1200.
However, I do not see a xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 !
How can I configure the X session ?

Thank

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Re: libgtkhtml3 bug??

2008-12-21 Thread fred smith
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 05:18:43AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 fred smith wrote:
  I'm trying to compile gnomesword.
 
 You _do_ realize that gnomesword is already packaged in Fedora?
 
 Kevin Kofler

Um,...

No, I wasn't :(

I thought I'd searched for it in add/remove software and  hadn't found
it. But now I see it there.

Thanks!

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A few more Network Manager issues

2008-12-21 Thread Jerry Feldman
First, on my home system, when NM comes up it starts up in Auto Eth0 
although I have defined Manual Eth0. I am not able to remove the Auto 
eth0 becuase it is read-only, even as root.
I've read some of the other posts here and on the Fedora Forum where 
some said to make some changes to 
/etc/sysconfig/networking/devices/ifcfg-eth0


DEVICE=eth0
BOOTPROTO=none
HWADDR=00:e0:81:b1:5b:00
ONBOOT=yes
DNS1=192.168.0.1
DNS2=68.87.71.226
DNS2=68.87.73.242
SEARCH=blu.org
NM_CONTROLLED=yes #I've changed this to yes and no
TYPE=Ethernet
USERCTL=no   #I've changed this to yes and no
IPV6INIT=no
IPADDR=192.168.0.25
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
GATEWAY=192.168.0.1
PEERDNS=yes

I certainly can go back to the old manual way, but AFAIK, it may be 
deprecated in the future.



The other very minor issue is that ntpdate fails, but I am assuming that 
this might be  timing related to NM obtaining an address from the router.


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Re: How do you start the desktops that come with Fedora 10

2008-12-21 Thread Dave Feustel
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 05:11:20AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Dave Feustel wrote:
  yum groupinstall LXDE fails (not found).
 
 Are you on F10? LXDE is new in F10.
 
 Kevin Kofler

I'm running F9. I tried to build LXDE myself but have not yet succeeded.

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Re: Auto-run a DVD

2008-12-21 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 16:15 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
 On a F10 laptop, when I insert a commercial movie dvd I get a window that 
 tells
 me you have just inserted a video dvd and gives me an opportunity to select 
 a
 default application to open it with.  However, the bar to make the selection 
 in
 says no applications found.
 
 A bit of google-searching tells me that the System-Preferences-Hardware
 Removable Drives and Media should have a Multimedia tab where I can set this,
 but it doesn't.  The only tabs that I have are Cameras-PDAs-Printers 
 Scanners-Input Devices
 
 So how can I tell this thing to automatically crank up gnome-mplayer when I
 insert a video dvd?
Try: System-Preferences-Personal-File Management
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Thunderbird 3 Beta 1 RPM - Did anyone make it?

2008-12-21 Thread Mark
Hi,

I would like to try out the latest Thunberbird beta but i can't find a
rpm for it anywhere.
Is a RPM of that latest beta even build by anyone?

If it is.. please send me a link.

Thanx,
Mark

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Re: Auto-run a DVD

2008-12-21 Thread Peter Boy
Am Sonntag, den 21.12.2008, 08:05 -0600 schrieb Aaron Konstam:
  So how can I tell this thing to automatically crank up gnome-mplayer when I
  insert a video dvd?
 Try: System-Preferences-Personal-File Management

I tried, but (the installed) xine ist not on the list to select from
(not even on the list other applications), just brasero, the burning
application.

How can I get xine on the list?


Thanks
Peter



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Re: Lets test the h...@!! out of KDE4.2 before it releases...

2008-12-21 Thread Ian Pilcher
Is dual-head support any better than 4.1?

Until I can set different wallpapers on different screens and different
virtual desktops, I'll consider KDE 4 to be a horrible regression from
3.5.  (This is, after all, the main reason I've been using KDE instead
of GNOME all these years.)

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Re: X session frozes

2008-12-21 Thread Anoop
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Patrick Dupre pd...@york.ac.uk wrote:
 Hello,

 After I installed Fedora10 from scratch, I start in text mode, log and
 startx. Then I got the Fedora background image and the arrow pointer
 but not the time shape around, and it stay frozed here. I have to
 reboot with an hardware switch.
 It is a Radeon RV100 QY (Radeon 7000/VE) with a monitor 1600 x 1200.
 However, I do not see a xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 !
 How can I configure the X session ?
Run 'X -configure'
This will create xorg.conf.

Thanks,
Anoop

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Re: Simple question regarding touch and mv

2008-12-21 Thread Roger Heflin


  


Don't some programs interpret -- as stdin?





No.

But some programs do interpret -- as no more options after this.

so:

touch -- -foo will work as the -- tells touch that there are no
options after this.

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Re: Lets test the h...@!! out of KDE4.2 before it releases...

2008-12-21 Thread Mark
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 4:52 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
 Mark wrote:
 Also something important.
 I also installed (and removed) compiz fusion. KDE seems to go way more
 smoother with compiz fusion then with anything else so perhaps good to
 try that out.
 I had to install and use the emerald decoration manager to get it all
 working.

 Is the kde4-window-decorator in compiz-kde not working?

Kevin Kofler

It was working before i had installed compiz fusion. after that it
would only work if i turned on the fusion-icon and selected kwin as
decoration manager. it would like to crash a few times but worked most
of the time.

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Re: X session frozes

2008-12-21 Thread Patrick Dupre

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Anoop wrote:


On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Patrick Dupre pd...@york.ac.uk wrote:

Hello,

After I installed Fedora10 from scratch, I start in text mode, log and
startx. Then I got the Fedora background image and the arrow pointer
but not the time shape around, and it stay frozed here. I have to
reboot with an hardware switch.
It is a Radeon RV100 QY (Radeon 7000/VE) with a monitor 1600 x 1200.
However, I do not see a xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 !
How can I configure the X session ?

Run 'X -configure'
This will create xorg.conf.


It does not help.
In fact I was expecting to find a /etc/X11/xorg.conf

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Re: X session frozes

2008-12-21 Thread Anoop
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:34 PM, Patrick Dupre pd...@york.ac.uk wrote:
 On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Anoop wrote:

 On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Patrick Dupre pd...@york.ac.uk wrote:

 Hello,

 After I installed Fedora10 from scratch, I start in text mode, log and
 startx. Then I got the Fedora background image and the arrow pointer
 but not the time shape around, and it stay frozed here. I have to
 reboot with an hardware switch.
 It is a Radeon RV100 QY (Radeon 7000/VE) with a monitor 1600 x 1200.
 However, I do not see a xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 !
 How can I configure the X session ?

 Run 'X -configure'
 This will create xorg.conf.

 It does not help.
 In fact I was expecting to find a /etc/X11/xorg.conf
You mean 'X -configure' is not creating xorg.conf file ?


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Re: Simple question regarding touch and mv

2008-12-21 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Roger Heflin wrote:
 
   

 Don't some programs interpret -- as stdin?



 
 No.
 
 But some programs do interpret -- as no more options after this.
 
 so:
 
 touch -- -foo will work as the -- tells touch that there are no
 options after this.
 
I think it works for almost all command line programs - probably all
the ones written in C. I believe it is build into the library
function that separates out options. ./-foo also works because you
are giving the path, so the - is not seen as an options. (./ = in
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Re: X session frozes

2008-12-21 Thread Patrick Dupre

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Anoop wrote:


On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:34 PM, Patrick Dupre pd...@york.ac.uk wrote:

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Anoop wrote:


On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Patrick Dupre pd...@york.ac.uk wrote:


Hello,

After I installed Fedora10 from scratch, I start in text mode, log and
startx. Then I got the Fedora background image and the arrow pointer
but not the time shape around, and it stay frozed here. I have to
reboot with an hardware switch.
It is a Radeon RV100 QY (Radeon 7000/VE) with a monitor 1600 x 1200.
However, I do not see a xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 !
How can I configure the X session ?


Run 'X -configure'
This will create xorg.conf.


It does not help.
In fact I was expecting to find a /etc/X11/xorg.conf

You mean 'X -configure' is not creating xorg.conf file ?

No, it does create $(HOME)/.xorg.conf




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Re: FC10 does not boot when HDD moved to another machine

2008-12-21 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Frank Millman wrote:
 
 I tried the suggestion of running 'yum update kernel' while in rescue mode
 on the second machine. It seemed to work, but it still would not boot.
 
This will only work if you booted in the rescue mode on the new
machine, and ran chroot /mnt/sysimage. (Mount /boot after that if it
didn't get mounted.)
 
 I ran 'yum update', which updated 53 packages. As mentioned I had previously
 run 'yum update kernel'. The kernel now seems to be 2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i686.
 However, uname -r still shows 2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i586. What is the official
 way of finding out which kernel is running?
 
Did you reboot after installing the new kernel? The new kernel
should be used when you reboot. If it is not show as the default
kernel when booting, hit the down arrow while Grub is counting down,
and select the kernel from the menu.

 I ran mkinitrd on the original machine, just to see if it would work. If I
 type 'mkinitrd -v /boot/test.img 2.6.27.7-134.fc10' (without the .i686), I
 get the message 'No  modules available ...' If I include the '.i686', it
 works, and creates /boot/test.img.
 
OK - I guessed they changed things in F10.

 I don't know how to tell it to use the new image. Is there a way to change
 boot options without booting off the intstallation dvd and selecting 'rescue
 mode'? I did boot in rescue mode, and tried 'initrd=test.img' and
 'initrd=/boot/test.img', but in both cases it said it could not find
 test.img.
 
You can edit the kernel line in Grub before it boots the kernel. If
we have to go that route, we can cover it. (My brain is froze - I
was out shoveling/snow blowing snow...)

 You mentioned modifying grub.conf, but I do not have a grub directory in
 /boot at all. There is an an entry in /etc for grub.conf, but it is a link
 to /boot/grub/grub.conf, so it cannot find it.
 
It sounds like you are not getting all partitions mounted when
booting in the rescue mode. After doing the chroot /mnt/sysimage,
run mount /boot and it should show up.

 I then moved the HDD back to the second machine and booted in rescue mode.
 This time 'ls /boot' did show the contents correctly - the previous problem
 where it did not seem to be mounted has gone away. I ran mkinitrd and it
 worked, but I still don't know how to tell it to use the new image. I tried
 saving '/boot/initrd-2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i686.img', and then copying
 'test.img' over it, but when I tried booting normally I got the original
 error message -
 
You HAVE TO build the new initrd image on the new machine. If you
build it on the old machine, it will have the drivers for the old
machine. This not what you want. (The image is the same as the one
you are trying to boot off of now, and is not working.)

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Re: X session frozes

2008-12-21 Thread Anoop
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Patrick Dupre pd...@york.ac.uk wrote:
 On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Anoop wrote:

 On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:34 PM, Patrick Dupre pd...@york.ac.uk wrote:

 On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Anoop wrote:


 It does not help.
 In fact I was expecting to find a /etc/X11/xorg.conf

 You mean 'X -configure' is not creating xorg.conf file ?

 No, it does create $(HOME)/.xorg.conf

OK. Try testing it. run 'X -config $(HOME)/xorg.conf.
See if it works. You can also try coping it to /etc/X11 and rebooting once.

Thanks,
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Re: Comcast permanent block on port 25

2008-12-21 Thread Les Mikesell

NiftyFedora Mitch wrote:


Port 25 in and out may be negotiated in some areas...
The default in my area was to block it but a polite call to SBC
unblocked it for me.
I still had issues at the other end as my reverse DNS was known home DHCP
class sites and I had to use them as a 'smart' host.

HTTP is more interesting... as it can be a business but without a
fixed IP address
dynamic DNS is seen as wonky  ... However a personal site with limited
traffic can also serve students homework.  But it need not be on port 80.

Look into various hosting or co-location solutions some are much
less expensive than
good bandwidth to the home.


Comcast bundles several accounts with email and space on their servers 
for storage and http service along with the connection.  There's not a 
lot of reason to run your own server unless you have dynamic content.


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RE: Plymouth Config

2008-12-21 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Not to sound rude, but could you copy/paste the exact grub line? If it 
turns out to be correct, you should probably file a bug.

Priceless,
Wasn't at all rude, but needed! I had been editing it so many times I
never noticed an extraneous character:) My bad!

Now that 1600x1000 works, it looks good but it doesn't seem to be able to
do the resolution of my lcd, 1680x1050. I am guessing that will change soon.

Thanks,
jlc

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Re: Thunderbird 3 Beta 1 RPM - Did anyone make it?

2008-12-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Mark mark...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I would like to try out the latest Thunberbird beta but i can't find a
 rpm for it anywhere.
 Is a RPM of that latest beta even build by anyone?

AFAIK there is no RPM yet (and I wouldn't expect there to be until the
thing is actually released). Just download the tarball and unpack it.
You can use it directly without installation. Note that it will change
some profile settings in ~/.thunderbird so make a backup if you want
to be careful.

poc

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Re: Comcast permanent block on port 25

2008-12-21 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2008-12-21 at 09:50 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
 Comcast bundles several accounts with email and space on their servers
 for storage and http service along with the connection.  There's not a
 lot of reason to run your own server unless you have dynamic content.

Or space?  I don't know about Comcast, but it's typical for ISPs to only
give users a few megabytes, here (e.g. 10 is common).

My first external host only gave out 10 megs on their basic package,
which seems enough, at first.  But apart from it being an obvious limit
on the content that you could serve (e.g. anything more than plain
pages), it was 10 megs for your HTTP content, HTTP logs, mail spools,
webserver temporary files, all combined.  Even a small site could clog
up, quite quickly, if it attracted enough traffic.  Especially since the
only automation offered was to delete last month's logs.  Not email you
them, but delete them.  Likewise, their implementations of spam handling
were just as inept.

I've grown to despise CPanel based systems.  They seem to be used as
turnkey systems for incompetent webhosts.

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Re: fuse changed my mount points?

2008-12-21 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2008-12-21 at 10:39 -0500, Steve wrote:
 The Dec 07 entries are mostly screensaver stuff.

You might want to post that list, in case someone can spot the culprit.
I'd be highly surprised at CUPS having anything to do with it.

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Re: X session frozes

2008-12-21 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2008-12-21 at 21:13 +0530, Anoop wrote:
 You can also try coping it to /etc/X11 and rebooting once.

Simply restarting X would be less drastic, and less time consuming.
Especially if you need to test out various different modifications.
This isn't Windows.

If the system is still freezing, after that, of course you'd need to
reboot.  But there's no need to go through a full reboot before that
happens, if it does.

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Re: Fedora 10 Stables feed broken?

2008-12-21 Thread Todd Zullinger
Andre Costa wrote:
 anyone managed to subscribe to Fedora 10 Stables feed? I always get:
 
 500 Internal error
 
 The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from
 fulfilling the request.
 
 Other feeds (Pending, Testing and Security) are all fine.

I think this is https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/267

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