[Bug 475593] Review Request: fontpackages - Common directory and macro definitions used by font packages
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475593 --- Comment #15 from Orcan 'oget' Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com 2008-12-25 18:55:33 EDT --- Why is %_fontconfig_templatedir changed from %{_sysconfdir}/fonts/conf.avail to %{_datadir}/fontconfig/conf.avail ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
Re: rsync errors on fedora-secondary
On Thursday 25 December 2008 01:56:45 am Adrian Reber wrote: I get following rsync errors on syncing fedora-secondary on the last few runs: rsync: send_files failed to open /development/sparc/os/images/.initrd.img.pupy3y (in fedora-secondary): Permission denied (13) rsync: send_files failed to open /releases/9/Everything/source/SRPMS/.supertuxkart-0.4-1.fc9.src.rpm.omf19j (in fedora-secondary): Permission denied (13) rsync: send_files failed to open /releases/test/9-Beta/Fedora/source/SRPMS/.geronimo-specs-1.0-1.M2.2jpp.12 .src.rpm.quHnuo (in fedora-secondary): Permission denied (13) Maybe someone can delete those files. Thanks! Adrian Fixed, thanks for the heads up Dennis ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: smart in f10
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 3:18 AM, oleksandr korneta aten...@gmail.comwrote: hello, smart (smart-1.1-56.fc10.rpm) segfaults while reloading cache. According to traceback message it must this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/fedora/+source/smart/+bug/302345 which has been fixed in the trunk for quite some time http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~smartpm/smart/trunk/revision/844http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Esmartpm/smart/trunk/revision/844 are there any chances that this will make it to fedora repos anytime soon? Interesting. I have smart 1.1.58 on F8, and the changelog says: Smart Package Manager is a next generation package handling tool. * Sun Dec 21 2008 Axel Thimm axel.th...@atrpms.net - 1.1-58 - Use bugfix branch, remove already included patches. I think the F10 version is on its way -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Need advice on music management software
Hi all, I have a music collection that's being merged from several computers/devices onto a single one (which doubles as a media center/HTPC). Problem is, I'd like to merge the duplicate files (and there are plenty) but still need to be able to sync between this central system and the other computers (all running Fedora, btw). User 1 has a laptop with Amarok and syncs her music to an iPod (listens on both laptop and iPod) User 2 also uses Amarok, but no external devices User 3 uses a car mp3 player only (wirelessly synced to her laptop using special software...) Everyone wants all the music on the HTPC, though everyone will keep a copy of their own subsection of the collection on their own devices. Nobody expects to sync to the HTPC from anything other than laptops, though iPod integration would be a bonus. Would be nice to listen to music from HTPC, and upon hearing a song I like to quickly mark it to send it to my laptop at the next sync :) Crazy setup, I know Any suggestions? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: video crashes firefox
On Thursday 25 December 2008 00:15:46 Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: Em Qua 24 Dez 2008, Anne Wilson escreveu: On Wednesday 24 December 2008 17:52:43 Neal Becker wrote: Strange. Both links crash firefox here, with or without nspluginwrapper.i386 Firefox is crashing and causing freeze-ups so often here that I'm going to explore getting flash to work on Konqueror. I'll use FF as little as possible until this version is replaced. Same thing here. In special, Java applets make it crash a lot (open jdk vm). How can you tell that it's Java applets? And is there anything that can be done about it? Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: video crashes firefox
On Wednesday 24 December 2008 19:54:51 John Austin wrote: On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 19:33 +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 24 December 2008 17:52:43 Neal Becker wrote: Strange. Both links crash firefox here, with or without nspluginwrapper.i386 Firefox is crashing and causing freeze-ups so often here that I'm going to explore getting flash to work on Konqueror. I'll use FF as little as possible until this version is replaced. Anne But is it flash ?? Have you got Real Player installed? - it crashed Firefox for me! Not RealPlayer, but HelixPlayer: rpm -qa|grep -i player helixplayer-helix-codecs-1.0.9-5mdv2009.0 avifile-player-0.7.45-12plf2009.0 dragonplayer-4.1.3-1.1mdv2009.0 libkmediaplayer4-4.1.3-1.1mdv2009.0 helixplayer-1.0.9-5mdv2009.0 [a...@anne-laptop ~]$ rpm -qa|grep -i flash flash-plugin-10.0.15.3-release libflashsupport-0-20070927.2mdv2009.0 rpm -qa|grep -i player helixplayer-helix-codecs-1.0.9-5mdv2009.0 avifile-player-0.7.45-12plf2009.0 dragonplayer-4.1.3-1.1mdv2009.0 libkmediaplayer4-4.1.3-1.1mdv2009.0 helixplayer-1.0.9-5mdv2009.0 [a...@anne-laptop ~]$ rpm -qa|grep -i flash flash-plugin-10.0.15.3-release libflashsupport-0-20070927.2mdv2009.0 (This is on my Mandriva laptop, so of course versions would be different from the Fedora netbook.) Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: video crashes firefox
Em Qui 25 Dez 2008, Anne Wilson escreveu: On Thursday 25 December 2008 00:15:46 Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: Em Qua 24 Dez 2008, Anne Wilson escreveu: On Wednesday 24 December 2008 17:52:43 Neal Becker wrote: Strange. Both links crash firefox here, with or without nspluginwrapper.i386 Firefox is crashing and causing freeze-ups so often here that I'm going to explore getting flash to work on Konqueror. I'll use FF as little as possible until this version is replaced. Same thing here. In special, Java applets make it crash a lot (open jdk vm). How can you tell that it's Java applets? And is there anything that can be done about it? Because it crashes right after the applet loads, and this happens often. Also, sometimes the applet that should be embedded in the page incorrectly opens in a separate small window, then it crashes and takes down all opened Firefox windows with it. I don't know what can be done about this, but the version of Firefox that was provided in the F10 DVD did not crash so often. This began to happen after a few updates, though I can't remember exactly which one. Indeed, I can't even be sure the problem is in Firefox, it might be in some other package it depends on. The fact is that the current version crashes are very frequent, and not only with java applets. []'s Marcelo -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Advice to an audiophobe ??
William Case wrote: On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 08:30 +1030, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 10:55 -0500, William Case wrote: ... 1. Gives me a whole range of adjustments for different channels. (I assume channels means different sources e.g. Master, Headphone, PCM etc.). Just to clarify, a source device generates an audio signal( line in, PCM (pulse code modulation = wav uncompressed audio), that might then get processed (eg volume control, master, headphone), and then sent to a destination (often an output device like a speaker connector or headphone jack). Because a typical soundcard has an internal hardware mixer, it can usually mix together various inputs (sources) like CD input, mic input and recorded audio signals, and produce a single output signal (mostly in stereo=2 channels). When mixing together externally received signals, no main CPU processing power is used, unless you are trying to record to hard disk etc. 2. gives me two choices and 3., 4., 5. gives me only Master. Which should I choose and why? capture means recording - usually from a line in (eg from a vcr or mp3 player etc), or from a microphone. So exclude those from your choice. If I should be using HDA NVida (Alsa-mixer), why do I have PulseAudio options? Consider pulse audio to be a real-time digital mixer and volume control, where the audio calculations are performed inside your main CPU. In the default setup, once pulseaudio has done it's processing, it passes the result to the alsa driver which outputs the audio data to the soundcard. The soundcard turns the digital audio data into analog audio signals for use with amplifier, speakers, or headphones. Pulseaudio also has enhanced capabilities like remembering that when you playback with xmms that you like to output via your amplifiers and speakers, but when you are viewing a flash video, to playback into your headphones instead, at a different level. Another capability let's you choose the destination playback device while the material is actually being played. A third capability let's the output go to an audio device on another machine. Obviously, this is a bit trickier to set up. ... These individual mixer input controls should normally be left off if you never use them, as they can each introduce noise (hiss, beeps and burbles, etc.) to the system. I will turn them off except for Master and Front. I will experiment with PC Speaker. Of course these are only available to me if I use the default alsa mixer setting. It's not a one or other setting, both parts will still be involved; pulseaudio will process, mix, and attenuate sound signals, whereas alsa will drive the physical hardware. The setting you are seeing lets you decide whether to control the physical driver volume levels or the software generated pulseaudio volume controls. If you mute or turn the alsa master way down, it wont matter how high you turn the pulseaudio mixer, since the alsamixer comes after the pulseaudio one in the audio chain. (also true for the reverse). If you play back a loud audio file, and turn both the pulseaudio source and master up full. Then change to the alsa setting. You can then use the also setting to set up an absolute maximum level that you would want to hear, by adjusting the master. Then you could go back to the pulseaudio setting to adjust the playback to a comfortable setting, and from then on only use the pulseaudio setting. ... * How is sound related to video ? Sound is the sound, video is the picture... The question is too vague to be answerable. In digital format, sound and vision are both represented with digital 1's and 0's. With all video and audio file types, there is a packing together of the audio and video information into the one file. The multiplexed file provides information about when to playback each frame of video in relation to the audio in the file. For example, an mpeg2 (dvd) file might have two frames of video, then 2 of audio, then 1 of video, two audio in an order to achieve a consistent throughput of audio and video data. * Why are there so many files associated with producing sound? In digital audio, the most basic file type is waveform (.wav), where each momentary value of audio is stored, on a 1 for 1 basis. Experiments and calculations can show us that for something we store as quality musical recording we need to sample that momentary value at 44kHz (times per second) or higher so as not to disrupt our digital recording with audio aliases. Since we also seem to enjoy the spatial enhancement produced by stereo or more channels, the file needs to store both left and right information. Finally, we found that if we only store the digital value using a small no of bits per sample, when played back we hear a harsh, chunky sound, rather than the CD like quality of using 16 (or more) bits per sample. The catch with all that is it takes up a lot space. To solve space
Re: Need advice on music management software
Konstantin Svist wrote: center/HTPC). Problem is, I'd like to merge the duplicate files (and I'd suggest file management tool fslint (gui) or fdupes (command line) for this part of the process. Both can be given a start storage path, and then recurse through all sub folders looking for 100% duplicate files by content (without reference to filename). This wouldn't find identical music whose files are different because of different tags, compression, or file format. Can't help you with the other parts of your grand plan ;-) DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9: Vnc's desktop window prevents right-side toolbar access
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I noticed while doing a remote Vnc session that my Vnc desktop is showing the right-side scrollbar covering my right-side pop-out toolbar - thus preventing any access to it. Tried this in various window sizes and all performs the same way. Did you tell the vncserver to use a specific width x height ? {make it about 40 pixels shorter and 24 pixels narrower than the display you will run your vnc client on. Even if it doesn't fit, can't you just scroll the vnc window down and right so that you can then trigger the toolbar ? DaveT. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Advice to an audiophobe ??
David, Thank you; If you cut and pasted these answers, I would love to know where (or what site) you got them. If you took the time to write them off the top of your head, I doubly thank you. You have given me enough information to do some proper research of my own particular questions and do a small write up for my own use. Ps. I am top posting because there is no other place to appropriately express my thanks. On Fri, 2008-12-26 at 01:04 +1100, David Timms wrote: William Case wrote: On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 08:30 +1030, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 10:55 -0500, William Case wrote: ... 1. Gives me a whole range of adjustments for different channels. (I assume channels means different sources e.g. Master, Headphone, PCM etc.). Just to clarify, a source device generates an audio signal( line in, PCM (pulse code modulation = wav uncompressed audio), that might then get processed (eg volume control, master, headphone), and then sent to a destination (often an output device like a speaker connector or headphone jack). Because a typical soundcard has an internal hardware mixer, it can usually mix together various inputs (sources) like CD input, mic input and recorded audio signals, and produce a single output signal (mostly in stereo=2 channels). When mixing together externally received signals, no main CPU processing power is used, unless you are trying to record to hard disk etc. 2. gives me two choices and 3., 4., 5. gives me only Master. Which should I choose and why? capture means recording - usually from a line in (eg from a vcr or mp3 player etc), or from a microphone. So exclude those from your choice. If I should be using HDA NVida (Alsa-mixer), why do I have PulseAudio options? Consider pulse audio to be a real-time digital mixer and volume control, where the audio calculations are performed inside your main CPU. In the default setup, once pulseaudio has done it's processing, it passes the result to the alsa driver which outputs the audio data to the soundcard. The soundcard turns the digital audio data into analog audio signals for use with amplifier, speakers, or headphones. Pulseaudio also has enhanced capabilities like remembering that when you playback with xmms that you like to output via your amplifiers and speakers, but when you are viewing a flash video, to playback into your headphones instead, at a different level. Another capability let's you choose the destination playback device while the material is actually being played. A third capability let's the output go to an audio device on another machine. Obviously, this is a bit trickier to set up. ... These individual mixer input controls should normally be left off if you never use them, as they can each introduce noise (hiss, beeps and burbles, etc.) to the system. I will turn them off except for Master and Front. I will experiment with PC Speaker. Of course these are only available to me if I use the default alsa mixer setting. It's not a one or other setting, both parts will still be involved; pulseaudio will process, mix, and attenuate sound signals, whereas alsa will drive the physical hardware. The setting you are seeing lets you decide whether to control the physical driver volume levels or the software generated pulseaudio volume controls. If you mute or turn the alsa master way down, it wont matter how high you turn the pulseaudio mixer, since the alsamixer comes after the pulseaudio one in the audio chain. (also true for the reverse). If you play back a loud audio file, and turn both the pulseaudio source and master up full. Then change to the alsa setting. You can then use the also setting to set up an absolute maximum level that you would want to hear, by adjusting the master. Then you could go back to the pulseaudio setting to adjust the playback to a comfortable setting, and from then on only use the pulseaudio setting. ... * How is sound related to video ? Sound is the sound, video is the picture... The question is too vague to be answerable. In digital format, sound and vision are both represented with digital 1's and 0's. With all video and audio file types, there is a packing together of the audio and video information into the one file. The multiplexed file provides information about when to playback each frame of video in relation to the audio in the file. For example, an mpeg2 (dvd) file might have two frames of video, then 2 of audio, then 1 of video, two audio in an order to achieve a consistent throughput of audio and video data. * Why are there so many files associated with producing sound? In digital audio, the most basic file type is waveform (.wav), where each momentary value of audio is stored, on a 1 for 1 basis. Experiments and calculations can show us that for something we store as quality musical recording we need to
Re: smart in f10
on 12/25/2008 04:10 AM Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 3:18 AM, oleksandr korneta aten...@gmail.comwrote: hello, smart (smart-1.1-56.fc10.rpm) segfaults while reloading cache. According to traceback message it must this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/fedora/+source/smart/+bug/302345 which has been fixed in the trunk for quite some time http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~smartpm/smart/trunk/revision/844http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Esmartpm/smart/trunk/revision/844 are there any chances that this will make it to fedora repos anytime soon? Interesting. I have smart 1.1.58 on F8, and the changelog says: Smart Package Manager is a next generation package handling tool. * Sun Dec 21 2008 Axel Thimm axel.th...@atrpms.net - 1.1-58 - Use bugfix branch, remove already included patches. I think the F10 version is on its way ooops, False alarm. Just fund it in updates smart-1.1-56.fc10.i386 Build Time : Sun Dec 21 16:17:28 2008 -- regards, Oleksandr Korneta I'm running F9 x86_64 and F10 i386 on x86_64 hardware, should this matter. /The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from./ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
libdrm-2.4.3 needs pthreads-stubs, not available for fedora, why?
Greetings all, see subject. libxcb-devel (and libxcb) are ancient and do not contain the required headers. I have enabled enough stuff to see F11 in yumex, and its still the F8 version even then. The problem is? Thanks Merry Christmas to all. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) At the end of your life there'll be a good rest, and no further activities are scheduled. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Hardware Compatibility with Fedora
Dear Sir, I have a Asus Motherboard model number P5KPL-VM .I have to install fedora 10 on this machine.Is this hardware compatible with fedora 10 . Please let me know. Regards Harish Kumar Khanchandani Om Sai Ram Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
System-Config-Network not working on Fedora 10 KDE spin
I installed Fedora 10 KDE spin today and while trying to create a new wireless connection the Forward button doesn't function at all.I also tried creating a new Ethernet connection but still the Forward button even if pressed 10 times wont show me anything.Any idea guys? -- www.abhishekrane.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Hardware Compatibility with Fedora
Harish Kumar Khanchandani wrote: Dear Sir, I have a Asus Motherboard model number P5KPL-VM .I have to install fedora 10 on this machine.Is this hardware compatible with fedora 10 . Please let me know. Why don't you just download the F10 live CD and try if it works? Merry Xmas! Patrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I'm a newcomer to Fedora 10 Live CD
Pedro, That was a bit harsh for a response, to somebody trying to help - whether or not it resolved your issue. That said, see http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=205360 - it seems to be a common issue with some nVidia cards and the live cd. That was the first result in Google. My laptop, for instance (Intel Graphics) does not require any xorg.conf - and I believe this is an intended goal. Stuff like this should just work without configuration necessary. I checked the Fedora/RH bug tracker, and the first result was: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473301 . Different hardware (although using 'nv' as well) and sounds like the same issue. I'd suggest searching the bug reports for your exact issue, and if you find it to not be a duplicate, submit a new bug report (attach X logs as well) so that it can be (hopefully) resolved in future releases. I'm glad you found a temporary work-around, there were some others posted in that first link if you'd like to try. Good luck, David On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Pedro Izecksohn pedro.izecks...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not familiar with running the live CD So you should not answer. You may need to run with the vesa driver. A proper xorg.conf was missing. I needed to create one with: X -configure Then I used it with: X -config /root/xorg.conf.new export DISPLAY=:0.0 gnome-session and now I'm root inside Firefox. Could someone fix the appropriate script? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Need advice on music management software
David Timms wrote: Konstantin Svist wrote: center/HTPC). Problem is, I'd like to merge the duplicate files (and I'd suggest file management tool fslint (gui) or fdupes (command line) for this part of the process. Both can be given a start storage path, and then recurse through all sub folders looking for 100% duplicate files by content (without reference to filename). This wouldn't find identical music whose files are different because of different tags, compression, or file format. Can't help you with the other parts of your grand plan ;-) DaveT. Hrm... I'm pretty sure I've heard of software that can compare music files on a more fundamental level and tell me if I have duplicates in different formats. I know for sure there's a graphics comparison program that does this with images - I've used it once or twice :) Either way, that's a neat functionality but not really what I'm looking for. At this point the collection is not so huge that I can't deal with duplicates manually. The problem right now is that I keep several collections in one (because sync functionality is very important): Music/user1/Beatles Music/user2/Beatles Music/user3/Beatles -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: System-Config-Network not working on Fedora 10 KDE spin
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:56:00 +0530 abhishek rane wrote: I installed Fedora 10 KDE spin today and while trying to create a new wireless connection the Forward button doesn't function at all.I also tried creating a new Ethernet connection but still the Forward button even if pressed 10 times wont show me anything.Any idea guys? Generally, if the forward button is greyed out or non-functional it means that you have not yet filled out a required field on the form that you're currently viewing. (This is general advice and not specifically about system-config-network so it may not apply to your specific situation.) -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Advice to an audiophobe ??
On Fri, 2008-12-26 at 01:04 +1100, David Timms wrote: William Case wrote: On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 08:30 +1030, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 10:55 -0500, William Case wrote: ... 1. Gives me a whole range of adjustments for different channels. (I assume channels means different sources e.g. Master, Headphone, PCM etc.). Just to clarify, a source device generates an audio signal( line in, PCM (pulse code modulation = wav uncompressed audio), that might then get processed (eg volume control, master, headphone), and then sent to a destination (often an output device like a speaker connector or headphone jack). Because a typical soundcard has an internal hardware mixer, it can usually mix together various inputs (sources) like CD input, mic input and recorded audio signals, and produce a single output signal (mostly in stereo=2 channels). When mixing together externally received signals, no main CPU processing power is used, unless you are trying to record to hard disk etc. 2. gives me two choices and 3., 4., 5. gives me only Master. Which should I choose and why? capture means recording - usually from a line in (eg from a vcr or mp3 player etc), or from a microphone. So exclude those from your choice. If I should be using HDA NVida (Alsa-mixer), why do I have PulseAudio options? Consider pulse audio to be a real-time digital mixer and volume control, where the audio calculations are performed inside your main CPU. In the default setup, once pulseaudio has done it's processing, it passes the result to the alsa driver which outputs the audio data to the soundcard. The soundcard turns the digital audio data into analog audio signals for use with amplifier, speakers, or headphones. Pulseaudio also has enhanced capabilities like remembering that when you playback with xmms that you like to output via your amplifiers and speakers, but when you are viewing a flash video, to playback into your headphones instead, at a different level. Another capability let's you choose the destination playback device while the material is actually being played. A third capability let's the output go to an audio device on another machine. Obviously, this is a bit trickier to set up. ... These individual mixer input controls should normally be left off if you never use them, as they can each introduce noise (hiss, beeps and burbles, etc.) to the system. I will turn them off except for Master and Front. I will experiment with PC Speaker. Of course these are only available to me if I use the default alsa mixer setting. It's not a one or other setting, both parts will still be involved; pulseaudio will process, mix, and attenuate sound signals, whereas alsa will drive the physical hardware. The setting you are seeing lets you decide whether to control the physical driver volume levels or the software generated pulseaudio volume controls. If you mute or turn the alsa master way down, it wont matter how high you turn the pulseaudio mixer, since the alsamixer comes after the pulseaudio one in the audio chain. (also true for the reverse). If you play back a loud audio file, and turn both the pulseaudio source and master up full. Then change to the alsa setting. You can then use the also setting to set up an absolute maximum level that you would want to hear, by adjusting the master. Then you could go back to the pulseaudio setting to adjust the playback to a comfortable setting, and from then on only use the pulseaudio setting. ... * How is sound related to video ? Sound is the sound, video is the picture... The question is too vague to be answerable. In digital format, sound and vision are both represented with digital 1's and 0's. With all video and audio file types, there is a packing together of the audio and video information into the one file. The multiplexed file provides information about when to playback each frame of video in relation to the audio in the file. For example, an mpeg2 (dvd) file might have two frames of video, then 2 of audio, then 1 of video, two audio in an order to achieve a consistent throughput of audio and video data. * Why are there so many files associated with producing sound? In digital audio, the most basic file type is waveform (.wav), where each momentary value of audio is stored, on a 1 for 1 basis. Experiments and calculations can show us that for something we store as quality musical recording we need to sample that momentary value at 44kHz (times per second) or higher so as not to disrupt our digital recording with audio aliases. Since we also seem to enjoy the spatial enhancement produced by stereo or more channels, the file needs to store both left and right information. Finally, we found that if we only store the digital value using a small no of bits per sample, when played back we hear a harsh, chunky
Kpilot for KDE4 ?
Anyone know which package to install to get Kpilot for Kde 4 (on Fedora 10 x86_64) ? Thanks in advance -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
driver nvidia
Hi, where can i find the newest drivers for nVidia graphic card for F10 ? thx. -- Alain --- Windows XP x64 SP2 / Fedora 10 KDE 4.2 PostgreSQL 8.3.5 / MS SQL server 2005 Apache 2.2.10 PHP 5.2.6 C# 2005-2008 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 64bit JRE Mozilla plugin ?
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Jim wrote: Michael Cronenworth wrote: Kevin Kempter wrote: Hi all; anyone know how to get a 64bit JRE/java plugin for firefox working ? Thanks in advance # yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin I ran yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin and got the below Error message. No package java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin available. I have the following installed on my F9 system: java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.0.0-0.20.b09.fc9.x86_64 It has a build date of 2008-12-02 and was built at x86-4.fedora.phx.redhat.com The symlink list on my system looks like: /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins-wrapped/libjavaplugin.so - /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so - /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 - /usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk.x86_64/lib/amd64/gcjwebplugin.so Kevin. The symlinks to these, are they symlink from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins as in the 32bit setup. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Merry Christmas - Happy Hanukkah - Happy Kwanzaa - Happy Festivus!
Hey Fedora Community - For those of you who observe, I just want to say Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Kwanzaa and/or Happy Festivus as appropriate. :-) Whatever your beliefs, take this message in the spirit of peace, happiness and joy. May you be blessed in the holiday season and I hope you have a happy, healthy and successful new year. I'm very grateful to be a part of a community which is so smart and helpful. Thanks for having me. You really give me a lot of hope about the future. -- Yours, Thomas -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I'm a newcomer to Fedora 10 Live CD
Pedro Izecksohn wrote: I'm not familiar with running the live CD So you should not answer. Probably so. Issuing xdriver=vesa as a kernel parameter on boot should allow the vesa driver to be loaded when you boot. Though I am not toying around with the Live CD, the X server should work the same as traditional installs. The reference for me not being familiar with running the Live CD was a point, not a statement for me not being familiar with X. I know a bit about running X on different hardware. You may need to run with the vesa driver. A proper xorg.conf was missing. I needed to create one with: X -configure Then I used it with: X -config /root/xorg.conf.new export DISPLAY=:0.0 gnome-session Interesting! I use startx when logged in as regular user after copying the generated config file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf from /root/xorg.conf.new after testing X as root. With a read-only distribution and many possible configurations, a file for all would not be practical. Though when it fails to automagically detect the right driver, it should fall back to running a configuration utility to cover more hardware. and now I'm root inside Firefox. Could someone fix the appropriate script? Running as root while using an Internet browser? The appropriate script is to run a browser and X as a restricted user. Jim -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kpilot for KDE4 ?
Em Qui 25 Dez 2008, Kevin Kempter escreveu: Anyone know which package to install to get Kpilot for Kde 4 (on Fedora 10 x86_64) ? As far as KDE 4.1.3, it's not available. I've been told it will be back in 4.2, but haven't tested the betas yet. []'s Marcelo -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: VMWare 6.5 and Fedora 10
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Alain Roger wrote: I'm reopening this issue not as such but as complementary information. when i run F10 (without desktop effect) under KDE, it always starts in 800x600 under VMWare 6.5 whereas last session i set it up to 1200 x 800 or to 1152 x 864. moreover, i setup the KDE Manager to display the same login windows as F10 KDE live... but nothing is displayed. so where could be the problem ? thx. Install vmware toolsbut don't allow it to change the xorg.conf. After that, when you start your F10 and log in go to konsole and type vmware-user. If you have guest fix set it'll be fine. Remember, F10 was released *after* ws 6.5. sorry to be stupid but i don't catch it. 1. i start F10 2. i login with my user account 3. i open a console and type vmware-user under the console A. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Getting em28xx to compile (v4l-dvb-kernel)
I'm trying to compile v4l-dvb-kernel to get em28xx to work so that I can use a Pinnacle PCTV HD Pro usb stick. I'm using Fedora 8: [r...@localhost v4l-dvb-kernel]# make running ./build.sh build make[1]: Entering directory `/lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel' rm -rf Module.symvers; make -C /lib/modules/`if [ -d /lib/modules/2.6.21.4-eeepc ]; then echo 2.6.21.4-eeepc; else uname -r; fi`/build SUBDIRS=`pwd` modules make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.26.6-49.fc8-i686' CC [M] /lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em2880-dvb.o In file included from /lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em2880-dvb.c:33: /lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em28xx.h:31:20: error: dmxdev.h: No such file or directory /lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em28xx.h:32:23: error: dvb_demux.h: No such file or directory /lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em28xx.h:33:21: error: dvb_net.h: No such file or directory /lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em28xx.h:34:26: error: dvb_frontend.h: No such file or directory In file included from /lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em2880-dvb.c:33: /lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em28xx.h:557: error: field ‘demux’ has incomplete type /lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em28xx.h:565: error: field ‘adapter’ has incomplete type /lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em28xx.h:568: error: field ‘dmxdev’ has incomplete type /lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em28xx.h:570: error: field ‘dvbnet’ has incomplete type and so on. For some reason, dmxdev.h, dvb_demux.h, dvb_net.h and dvb_frontend.h files cannot be found. Any ideas on how to fix this and get the compile working? Rick B. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9: Vnc's desktop window prevents right-side toolbar access
David Timms wrote: Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I noticed while doing a remote Vnc session that my Vnc desktop is showing the right-side scrollbar covering my right-side pop-out toolbar - thus preventing any access to it. Tried this in various window sizes and all performs the same way. Did you tell the vncserver to use a specific width x height ? {make it about 40 pixels shorter and 24 pixels narrower than the display you will run your vnc client on. Even if it doesn't fit, can't you just scroll the vnc window down and right so that you can then trigger the toolbar ? DaveT. Yes, I tried that. The problem seems to be that the right-scrollbar isn't placed correctly to allow for the main window's right side to expose the full width of the actual window - seems to overlap just enough to prevent access to the hidden pop-out toolbar. Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Gnome Session Management
Hi all, has this just slipped by me? Ever since I installed F10, Gnome seems to have lost its session management capabilities. Not only does it not remember running applications on logout, it also does not seem to start startup programs I manually add (via the Session Preferences dialog). What gives? /W -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Advice to an audiophobe ??
William Case wrote: David, Thank you; If you cut and pasted these answers, I would love to know where (or what site) you got them. If you took the time to write them off the top of your head, I doubly thank you. You have given me enough information to do some proper research of my own particular questions and do a small write up for my own use. Unfortunately the background digital audio theory comes straight from my electronics and communication engineering degree course (15 years ago), but I guess became common knowledge to me due to interest and continued usage, both for at home and work (where we use audio DSP black boxes to save on needing to supply separate audio mixers, equalizers, volume controls, and audio routing boxes to client jobs). If you are into guitar, you might like to try a program like rakarrack. This provides audio processing functionality similar to what those DSP boxes can do, without the expense; but it does require a pretty decent CPU, and an understanding of the jack audio connection kit. While I was expanding on Tim's answer's, I found myself starting to spout technical terms; I just backpedalled each time and tried to find non-technical words to describe the way things are. In terms of audio apps in fedora, my summarizing way over-simplifies things, but hopefully it gives a good idea of the makeup of the system. ( http://www.linux.com/feature/119926 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio flowchart a few screens down http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/guide-to-sound-apis.html for a what sound system fits best where) Thanks for the complement, David T. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: VMWare 6.5 and Fedora 10
Alain Roger wrote: On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com mailto:ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Alain Roger wrote: I'm reopening this issue not as such but as complementary information. when i run F10 (without desktop effect) under KDE, it always starts in 800x600 under VMWare 6.5 whereas last session i set it up to 1200 x 800 or to 1152 x 864. moreover, i setup the KDE Manager to display the same login windows as F10 KDE live... but nothing is displayed. so where could be the problem ? thx. Install vmware toolsbut don't allow it to change the xorg.conf. After that, when you start your F10 and log in go to konsole and type vmware-user. If you have guest fix set it'll be fine. Remember, F10 was released *after* ws 6.5. sorry to be stupid but i don't catch it. 1. i start F10 2. i login with my user account 3. i open a console and type vmware-user under the console A. Yes, that is what I meant to say. -- WHO sees a BEACH BUNNY sobbing on a SHAG RUG?! mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Gnome Session Management
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Andreas Waldenburger wilde...@freakmail.de wrote: Hi all, has this just slipped by me? Ever since I installed F10, Gnome seems to have lost its session management capabilities. Not only does it not remember running applications on logout, it also does not seem to start startup programs I manually add (via the Session Preferences dialog). What gives? Yes, Gnome session saving and restoring is broken... but on my F10 starting programs manually via session - startup works. Peter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Laptop locking up at Boot Process
FC10 My Dell Laptop is locking up in the boot process just after; Starting anacron: [ OK ] how can i tell what is locking it up -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Laptop locking up at Boot Process
Jim wrote: FC10 My Dell Laptop is locking up in the boot process just after; Starting anacron: [ OK ] how can i tell what is locking it up How does one do a Rescue Mode in FC10 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Laptop locking up at Boot Process
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:10:40 -0500 Jim wrote: How does one do a Rescue Mode in FC10 Boot from the installer CD or DVD. Select Rescue mode from the menu. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F10 Strange Audio Errors
I'm seeing strange audio issues(skipping and buffering) when playing audio from Amarok(1.4), Audacity and from the video game Quake Wars. I have an on-board sound card: 00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2) And a USB Turntable: Bus 002 Device 005: ID 08bb:2900 Texas Instruments Japan PCM2900 Audio Codec Periodically, while Amarok(1.4) is playing back I see: Dec 25 16:48:45 localhost pulseaudio[15582]: module-alsa-sink.c: ALSA woke us up to write new data to the device, but there was actually nothing to write! Most likely t his is an ALSA driver bug. Please report this issue to the PulseAudio developers. When Audacity is recording from the USB turntable I see: ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:351: frame 0 active: -70 And when Quake Wars is running, I see the following in the console output: snd_pcm_readi failed: Input/output error snd_pcm_readi failed: Input/output error snd_pcm_readi failed: Input/output error Any ideas as to what is going on here? Sean -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: screen settings
2008/12/24 Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.com --- On Wed, 12/24/08, charles zeitler cfzeit...@gmail.com wrote: From: charles zeitler cfzeit...@gmail.com Subject: Re: screen settings reason. Do you have any proprietary drivers installed? radeontool ? I actually do not know much about these, all I've seen is the Xorg module radeon and another driver called radeonhd? I do not know where it comes from. Maybe someone on the list may help here? I downloaded the binary drivers from http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.htmlUsed it to make a distro specific package. And installed it. My hardware is a HD 4850. However all this was on Ubuntu. But the binary drivers also make distro specific packages for F9 or below. Since the OP is running F10, maybe he can try the proprietary drivers available from livna before trying this. However afaik the open source drivers should just work for the X1600 and its always preferable to stick with them. hope this helps -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 Strange Audio Errors
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Sean Bruno sean.br...@dsl-only.net wrote: I'm seeing strange audio issues(skipping and buffering) when playing audio from Amarok(1.4), Audacity and from the video game Quake Wars. I have an on-board sound card: 00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2) And a USB Turntable: Bus 002 Device 005: ID 08bb:2900 Texas Instruments Japan PCM2900 Audio Codec Periodically, while Amarok(1.4) is playing back I see: Dec 25 16:48:45 localhost pulseaudio[15582]: module-alsa-sink.c: ALSA woke us up to write new data to the device, but there was actually nothing to write! Most likely t his is an ALSA driver bug. Please report this issue to the PulseAudio developers. When Audacity is recording from the USB turntable I see: ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:351: frame 0 active: -70 And when Quake Wars is running, I see the following in the console output: snd_pcm_readi failed: Input/output error snd_pcm_readi failed: Input/output error snd_pcm_readi failed: Input/output error Any ideas as to what is going on here? Sean I used to experience similar skipping and hesitating from Amarok 1.4... until I removed PulseAudio. Now amarok plays smoothly. Peter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: E-mail Server
On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 19:04 +0200, Leon Vergottini wrote: Hi I have been tasked to commissioned an e-mail server in the first quarter of next year. I got this task because I am the only one at work that plays and have a small bit of understanding of how Linux work. So, I am on a research spree. I have already had a look at the following sites: The Linux document project How to forge Flurdy.com I do not ask for step by step instructions, although it will be nice, however I ask that you guys will point me to resources on the internet that may help me in this regard. Thank you very much Regards Leon Leon, Setting up a mail server is a great way to understand many aspects of the internet. I was elected in our firm to do the same thing. It took me two years and lots of study, but it was more than worthwhile. Lots of others have given you advice and I concur with their advice to use Centos 5.2 ... very stable I have used sendmail as the MTA It is easy to configure it to transfer mail to a 'smart host' from a desktop. It gets harder the more pieces of it you choose to use. Make sure you get the 'bat book' Sendmail!!! In my opinion sendmail works much better when you use bind to have a local dns server. You can use sendmail without bind, but you have to deal with sendmail having difficulty being able to identify your internal machines from remote machine. One of the other posters has advised you to be careful of allowing unwanted relay privileges granted to outside machines. Make sure you study this subject well. dovecot has been recommend and I have used it frequently with ease. I have not had the opportunity to install cyrus. Make sure you understand the difference between POP3 and IMAP. procmail needs to be understood spamassassin is great, and you will need to make sure you know how to use a spam filter. clamav is better, and I have used it as a sendmail milter and within procmail. The milter works better. My advice is for you to start with a small steps, and do not give up. You will feel like giving up but don't. Make sure you get the 'bat book'. Good Luck!!! Greg -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: E-mail Server
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:15:22 -0600 Gregory P. Ennis wrote: I have used sendmail as the MTA It is easy to configure it to transfer mail to a 'smart host' from a desktop. It gets harder the more pieces of it you choose to use. Make sure you get the 'bat book' Sendmail!!! Careful, anyone saying sendmail is easy to configure may find mental health workers closing in on them with a straight jacket :-). I find postfix plenty confusing, but far simpler to deal with than sendmail. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kpilot for KDE4 ?
Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: Em Qui 25 Dez 2008, Kevin Kempter escreveu: Anyone know which package to install to get Kpilot for Kde 4 (on Fedora 10 x86_64) ? As far as KDE 4.1.3, it's not available. I've been told it will be back in 4.2, but haven't tested the betas yet. It was dropped from 4.2 late in the release cycle too. Upstream opensync support libraries just aren't ready yet. ): -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: E-mail Server
On Thu, 2008-12-25 at 22:34 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:15:22 -0600 Gregory P. Ennis wrote: I have used sendmail as the MTA It is easy to configure it to transfer mail to a 'smart host' from a desktop. It gets harder the more pieces of it you choose to use. Make sure you get the 'bat book' Sendmail!!! Careful, anyone saying sendmail is easy to configure may find mental health workers closing in on them with a straight jacket :-). I find postfix plenty confusing, but far simpler to deal with than sendmail. It did take me two years, and sometimes I needed a straight jacket for myself. I still don't pretend to know everything sendmail does, but it finally became easy to use. :) I have not had the time or need to use postfix, but I hear it works without the use of pharmacological products for the mail administrator. You are probably right :) Greg -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: E-mail Server
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:34:18 -0500 Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net wrote: I find postfix plenty confusing, but far simpler to deal with than sendmail. I agree. It's also far less expensive and faster. Until you have to deal with Weitse and the mailing list group that is ;-) Sometimes is seems that the singular compelling purpose for the group's existence is to diminish the size of one's ego. -- Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda http://www.tips-Q.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Hidden download performance problem with Fedora 6-10 [ RESOLVED BUT NOT FIXED]
Some consolidation took place... kevin wrote: I just ran the F10 live CD on 3 other machines. 2 desktops and one wireless laptop. Fedora worked fine on them all. ... It is now just this machine with the Intel and National Semi NICs. ok. Thats good...isolates things some. ;) So I powered it down and switched the cables to the 3 enet ports; so now the Nat Semi is the one going to the internet. I Booted with F10 live CD and tried my wget experiment again. Same old problems: Data error, interrupted downloads. This box with Fedora just sucks. Interesting. However, and I keep repeating this, OpenSUSE 11, Debian Lenny, Ubuntu 8.04, PCLinuxOS 2007. Windows XP, Windows 2000 and ArchLinux all seem to handle things just fine. Only flavors of Fedora have a problem with this PC. Right. This points to some strange kernel bug or other issue with the Fedora kernel. Is there anything in dmesg when it's having the issues? kevin In an attempt to isolate further, I examined everything that is unique to this environment. So I replaced the NetGear Ethernet to Wireless Bridge which was between the suspect PC and the DSL modem (which is wireless). Guess what? All is well. That's right. We are running much better now. I have installed F10 to a hard drive and am now getting updates. NOTE: Only Fedora variants seem to have a problem downloading things through the Netgear bridge. Fortunately I have an alternate bridge ( Buffalo brand ) to use. Happy now. I have resolved the problem, but since only Fedora has a problem talking to the Netgear WGE101, I can't say it is fixed as far as Fedora is concerned. I'm not gonna worry about it any more. Thanks for reading... charlie. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines