[Bug 475593] Review Request: fontpackages - Common directory and macro definitions used by font packages

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--- Comment #15 from Orcan 'oget' Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com  2008-12-25 
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Why is %_fontconfig_templatedir changed from %{_sysconfdir}/fonts/conf.avail to
%{_datadir}/fontconfig/conf.avail ?

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Re: rsync errors on fedora-secondary

2008-12-25 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Thursday 25 December 2008 01:56:45 am Adrian Reber wrote:
 I get following rsync errors on syncing fedora-secondary on the last few
 runs:

 rsync: send_files failed to open
 /development/sparc/os/images/.initrd.img.pupy3y (in fedora-secondary):
 Permission denied (13) rsync: send_files failed to open
 /releases/9/Everything/source/SRPMS/.supertuxkart-0.4-1.fc9.src.rpm.omf19j
 (in fedora-secondary): Permission denied (13) rsync: send_files failed to
 open
 /releases/test/9-Beta/Fedora/source/SRPMS/.geronimo-specs-1.0-1.M2.2jpp.12
.src.rpm.quHnuo (in fedora-secondary): Permission denied (13)

 Maybe someone can delete those files. Thanks!

   Adrian
Fixed,  thanks for the heads up

Dennis

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Re: smart in f10

2008-12-25 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 3:18 AM, oleksandr korneta aten...@gmail.comwrote:

 hello,

 smart (smart-1.1-56.fc10.rpm) segfaults while reloading cache. According to
 traceback message it must this bug:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/fedora/+source/smart/+bug/302345 which has been
 fixed in the trunk for quite some time
 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~smartpm/smart/trunk/revision/844http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Esmartpm/smart/trunk/revision/844

 are there any chances that this will make it to fedora repos anytime soon?



Interesting. I have smart 1.1.58 on F8, and the changelog says:

Smart Package Manager is a next generation package handling tool.
* Sun Dec 21 2008 Axel Thimm axel.th...@atrpms.net - 1.1-58
- Use bugfix branch, remove already included patches.

I think the F10 version is on its way 

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Need advice on music management software

2008-12-25 Thread Konstantin Svist
Hi all,

I have a music collection that's being merged from several
computers/devices onto a single one (which doubles as a media
center/HTPC). Problem is, I'd like to merge the duplicate files (and
there are plenty) but still need to be able to sync between this central
system and the other computers (all running Fedora, btw).

User 1 has a laptop with Amarok and syncs her music to an iPod (listens
on both laptop and iPod)
User 2 also uses Amarok, but no external devices
User 3 uses a car mp3 player only (wirelessly synced to her laptop using
special software...)
Everyone wants all the music on the HTPC, though everyone will keep a
copy of their own subsection of the collection on their own devices.
Nobody expects to sync to the HTPC from anything other than laptops,
though iPod integration would be a bonus.

Would be nice to listen to music from HTPC, and upon hearing a song I
like to quickly mark it to send it to my laptop at the next sync :)

Crazy setup, I know
Any suggestions?


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Re: video crashes firefox

2008-12-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 25 December 2008 00:15:46 Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
 Em Qua 24 Dez 2008, Anne Wilson escreveu:
  On Wednesday 24 December 2008 17:52:43 Neal Becker wrote:
   Strange.  Both links crash firefox here, with or without
   nspluginwrapper.i386
 
  Firefox is crashing and causing freeze-ups so often here that I'm
  going to explore getting flash to work on Konqueror.  I'll use FF as
  little as possible until this version is replaced.

 Same thing here. In special, Java applets make it crash a lot (open jdk
 vm).

How can you tell that it's Java applets?  And is there anything that can be 
done about it?

Anne



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Re: video crashes firefox

2008-12-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 24 December 2008 19:54:51 John Austin wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 19:33 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Wednesday 24 December 2008 17:52:43 Neal Becker wrote:
   Strange.  Both links crash firefox here, with or without
   nspluginwrapper.i386
 
  Firefox is crashing and causing freeze-ups so often here that I'm going
  to explore getting flash to work on Konqueror.  I'll use FF as little as
  possible until this version is replaced.
 
  Anne

 But is it flash ??

 Have you got Real Player installed? - it crashed Firefox for me!

Not RealPlayer, but HelixPlayer:

rpm -qa|grep -i player
helixplayer-helix-codecs-1.0.9-5mdv2009.0
avifile-player-0.7.45-12plf2009.0
dragonplayer-4.1.3-1.1mdv2009.0
libkmediaplayer4-4.1.3-1.1mdv2009.0
helixplayer-1.0.9-5mdv2009.0
[a...@anne-laptop ~]$ rpm -qa|grep -i flash
flash-plugin-10.0.15.3-release
libflashsupport-0-20070927.2mdv2009.0
rpm -qa|grep -i player
helixplayer-helix-codecs-1.0.9-5mdv2009.0
avifile-player-0.7.45-12plf2009.0
dragonplayer-4.1.3-1.1mdv2009.0
libkmediaplayer4-4.1.3-1.1mdv2009.0
helixplayer-1.0.9-5mdv2009.0
[a...@anne-laptop ~]$ rpm -qa|grep -i flash
flash-plugin-10.0.15.3-release
libflashsupport-0-20070927.2mdv2009.0

(This is on my Mandriva laptop, so of course versions would be different from 
the Fedora netbook.)

Anne


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Re: video crashes firefox

2008-12-25 Thread Marcelo Magno T. Sales
Em Qui 25 Dez 2008, Anne Wilson escreveu:
 On Thursday 25 December 2008 00:15:46 Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
  Em Qua 24 Dez 2008, Anne Wilson escreveu:
   On Wednesday 24 December 2008 17:52:43 Neal Becker wrote:
Strange.  Both links crash firefox here, with or without
nspluginwrapper.i386
  
   Firefox is crashing and causing freeze-ups so often here that I'm
   going to explore getting flash to work on Konqueror.  I'll use FF
   as little as possible until this version is replaced.
 
  Same thing here. In special, Java applets make it crash a lot (open
  jdk vm).

 How can you tell that it's Java applets?  And is there anything that
 can be done about it?

Because it crashes right after the applet loads, and this happens often. 
Also, sometimes the applet that should be embedded in the page 
incorrectly opens in a separate small window, then it crashes and takes 
down all opened Firefox windows with it.
I don't know what can be done about this, but the version of Firefox 
that was provided in the F10 DVD did not crash so often. This began to 
happen after a few updates, though I can't remember exactly which one. 
Indeed, I can't even be sure the problem is in Firefox, it might be in 
some other package it depends on.
The fact is that the current version crashes are very frequent, and not 
only with java applets.

[]'s
Marcelo



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Re: Advice to an audiophobe ??

2008-12-25 Thread David Timms

William Case wrote:

On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 08:30 +1030, Tim wrote:

On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 10:55 -0500, William Case wrote:

...

1. Gives me a whole range of adjustments for different channels.  (I
assume channels means different sources  e.g. Master, Headphone, PCM etc.).
Just to clarify, a source device generates an audio signal( line in, PCM 
(pulse code modulation = wav uncompressed audio), that might then get 
processed (eg volume control, master, headphone), and then sent to a 
destination (often an output device like a speaker connector or 
headphone jack).


Because a typical soundcard has an internal hardware mixer, it can 
usually mix together various inputs (sources) like CD input, mic input 
and recorded audio signals, and produce a single output signal (mostly 
in stereo=2 channels). When mixing together externally received signals, 
no main CPU processing power is used, unless you are trying to record to 
hard disk etc.


2. gives me two choices and 
3., 4., 5. gives me only Master.  
Which should I choose and why?
capture means recording - usually from a line in (eg from a vcr or mp3 
player etc), or from a microphone. So exclude those from your choice.



If I should be using HDA NVida (Alsa-mixer), why do I have PulseAudio
options?
Consider pulse audio to be a real-time digital mixer and volume control, 
where the audio calculations are performed inside your main CPU. In the 
default setup, once pulseaudio has done it's processing, it passes the 
result to the alsa driver which outputs the audio data to the soundcard. 
The soundcard turns the digital audio data into analog audio signals for 
 use with amplifier, speakers, or headphones.


Pulseaudio also has enhanced capabilities like remembering that when you 
playback with xmms that you like to output via your amplifiers and 
speakers, but when you are viewing a flash video, to playback into your 
headphones instead, at a different level. Another capability let's you 
choose the destination playback device while the material is actually 
being played. A third capability let's the output go to an audio device 
on another machine. Obviously, this is a bit trickier to set up.


...

These individual mixer input controls should normally be left off if you
never use them, as they can each introduce noise (hiss, beeps and
burbles, etc.) to the system.  

I will turn them off except for Master and Front.  I will experiment
with PC Speaker.  Of course these are only available to me if I use the
default alsa mixer setting.
It's not a one or other setting, both parts will still be involved; 
pulseaudio will process, mix, and attenuate sound signals, whereas alsa 
will drive the physical hardware. The setting you are seeing lets you 
decide whether to control the physical driver volume levels or the 
software generated pulseaudio volume controls. If you mute or turn the 
alsa master way down, it wont matter how high you turn the pulseaudio 
mixer, since the alsamixer comes after the pulseaudio one in the audio 
chain. (also true for the reverse).


If you play back a loud audio file, and turn both the pulseaudio source 
 and master up full. Then change to the alsa setting. You can then use 
the also setting to set up an absolute maximum level that you would want 
to hear, by adjusting the master. Then you could go back to the 
pulseaudio setting to adjust the playback to a comfortable setting, and 
from then on only use the pulseaudio setting.


...

  * How is sound related to video ?



Sound is the sound, video is the picture...  The question is too vague
to be answerable.
In digital format, sound and vision are both represented with digital 
1's and 0's. With all video and audio file types, there is a packing 
together of the audio and video information into the one file. The 
multiplexed file provides information about when to playback each frame 
of video in relation to the audio in the file. For example, an mpeg2 
(dvd) file might have two frames of video, then 2 of audio, then 1 of 
video, two audio in an order to achieve a consistent throughput of audio 
and video data.



  * Why are there so many files associated with producing sound?
In digital audio, the most basic file type is waveform (.wav), where 
each momentary value of audio is stored, on a 1 for 1 basis. Experiments 
and calculations can show us that for something we store as quality 
musical recording we need to sample that momentary value at 44kHz (times 
per second) or higher so as not to disrupt our digital recording with 
audio aliases. Since we also seem to enjoy the spatial enhancement 
produced by stereo or more channels, the file needs to store both left 
and right information. Finally, we found that if we only store the 
digital value using a small no of bits per sample, when played back we 
hear a harsh, chunky sound, rather than the CD like quality of using 16 
(or more) bits per sample. The catch with all that is it takes up a lot 
space.


To solve space 

Re: Need advice on music management software

2008-12-25 Thread David Timms

Konstantin Svist wrote:

center/HTPC). Problem is, I'd like to merge the duplicate files (and
I'd suggest file management tool fslint (gui) or fdupes (command line) 
for this part of the process. Both can be given a start storage path, 
and then recurse through all sub folders looking for 100% duplicate 
files by content (without reference to filename). This wouldn't find 
identical music whose files are different because of different tags, 
compression, or file format.


Can't help you with the other parts of your grand plan ;-)

DaveT.

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Re: F9: Vnc's desktop window prevents right-side toolbar access

2008-12-25 Thread David Timms

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

I noticed while doing a remote Vnc session that my Vnc
desktop is showing the right-side scrollbar covering my
right-side pop-out toolbar - thus preventing any access
to it.

Tried this in various window sizes and all performs the
same way.
Did you tell the vncserver to use a specific width x height ?  {make it 
about 40 pixels shorter and 24 pixels narrower than the display you will 
run your vnc client on.


Even if it doesn't fit, can't you just scroll the vnc window down and 
right so that you can then trigger the toolbar ?


DaveT.

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Re: Advice to an audiophobe ??

2008-12-25 Thread William Case
David, Thank you;

If you cut and pasted these answers, I would love to know where (or what
site) you got them.  If you took the time to write them off the top of
your head, I doubly thank you. You have given me enough information to
do some proper research of my own particular questions and do a small
write up for my own use.

Ps.  I am top posting because there is no other place to appropriately
express my thanks.

On Fri, 2008-12-26 at 01:04 +1100, David Timms wrote:
 William Case wrote:
  On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 08:30 +1030, Tim wrote:
  On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 10:55 -0500, William Case wrote:
 ...
  1. Gives me a whole range of adjustments for different channels.  (I
  assume channels means different sources  e.g. Master, Headphone, PCM etc.).
 Just to clarify, a source device generates an audio signal( line in, PCM 
 (pulse code modulation = wav uncompressed audio), that might then get 
 processed (eg volume control, master, headphone), and then sent to a 
 destination (often an output device like a speaker connector or 
 headphone jack).
 
 Because a typical soundcard has an internal hardware mixer, it can 
 usually mix together various inputs (sources) like CD input, mic input 
 and recorded audio signals, and produce a single output signal (mostly 
 in stereo=2 channels). When mixing together externally received signals, 
 no main CPU processing power is used, unless you are trying to record to 
 hard disk etc.
 
  2. gives me two choices and 
  3., 4., 5. gives me only Master.  
  Which should I choose and why?
 capture means recording - usually from a line in (eg from a vcr or mp3 
 player etc), or from a microphone. So exclude those from your choice.
 
  If I should be using HDA NVida (Alsa-mixer), why do I have PulseAudio
  options?
 Consider pulse audio to be a real-time digital mixer and volume control, 
 where the audio calculations are performed inside your main CPU. In the 
 default setup, once pulseaudio has done it's processing, it passes the 
 result to the alsa driver which outputs the audio data to the soundcard. 
 The soundcard turns the digital audio data into analog audio signals for 
   use with amplifier, speakers, or headphones.
 
 Pulseaudio also has enhanced capabilities like remembering that when you 
 playback with xmms that you like to output via your amplifiers and 
 speakers, but when you are viewing a flash video, to playback into your 
 headphones instead, at a different level. Another capability let's you 
 choose the destination playback device while the material is actually 
 being played. A third capability let's the output go to an audio device 
 on another machine. Obviously, this is a bit trickier to set up.
 
 ...
  These individual mixer input controls should normally be left off if you
  never use them, as they can each introduce noise (hiss, beeps and
  burbles, etc.) to the system.  
  I will turn them off except for Master and Front.  I will experiment
  with PC Speaker.  Of course these are only available to me if I use the
  default alsa mixer setting.
 It's not a one or other setting, both parts will still be involved; 
 pulseaudio will process, mix, and attenuate sound signals, whereas alsa 
 will drive the physical hardware. The setting you are seeing lets you 
 decide whether to control the physical driver volume levels or the 
 software generated pulseaudio volume controls. If you mute or turn the 
 alsa master way down, it wont matter how high you turn the pulseaudio 
 mixer, since the alsamixer comes after the pulseaudio one in the audio 
 chain. (also true for the reverse).
 
 If you play back a loud audio file, and turn both the pulseaudio source 
   and master up full. Then change to the alsa setting. You can then use 
 the also setting to set up an absolute maximum level that you would want 
 to hear, by adjusting the master. Then you could go back to the 
 pulseaudio setting to adjust the playback to a comfortable setting, and 
 from then on only use the pulseaudio setting.
 
 ...
* How is sound related to video ?
  
  Sound is the sound, video is the picture...  The question is too vague
  to be answerable.
 In digital format, sound and vision are both represented with digital 
 1's and 0's. With all video and audio file types, there is a packing 
 together of the audio and video information into the one file. The 
 multiplexed file provides information about when to playback each frame 
 of video in relation to the audio in the file. For example, an mpeg2 
 (dvd) file might have two frames of video, then 2 of audio, then 1 of 
 video, two audio in an order to achieve a consistent throughput of audio 
 and video data.
 
* Why are there so many files associated with producing sound?
 In digital audio, the most basic file type is waveform (.wav), where 
 each momentary value of audio is stored, on a 1 for 1 basis. Experiments 
 and calculations can show us that for something we store as quality 
 musical recording we need to 

Re: smart in f10

2008-12-25 Thread oleksandr korneta

on 12/25/2008 04:10 AM Paulo Cavalcanti wrote:

On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 3:18 AM, oleksandr korneta aten...@gmail.comwrote:


hello,

smart (smart-1.1-56.fc10.rpm) segfaults while reloading cache. According to
traceback message it must this bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/fedora/+source/smart/+bug/302345 which has been
fixed in the trunk for quite some time
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~smartpm/smart/trunk/revision/844http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Esmartpm/smart/trunk/revision/844

are there any chances that this will make it to fedora repos anytime soon?




Interesting. I have smart 1.1.58 on F8, and the changelog says:

Smart Package Manager is a next generation package handling tool.
* Sun Dec 21 2008 Axel Thimm axel.th...@atrpms.net - 1.1-58
- Use bugfix branch, remove already included patches.

I think the F10 version is on its way 




ooops, False alarm. Just fund it in updates

smart-1.1-56.fc10.i386
Build Time   : Sun Dec 21 16:17:28 2008


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libdrm-2.4.3 needs pthreads-stubs, not available for fedora, why?

2008-12-25 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all, see subject.

libxcb-devel (and libxcb) are ancient and do not  contain the required 
headers.  I have enabled enough stuff to see F11 in yumex, and its still the 
F8 version even then.

The problem is?

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Hardware Compatibility with Fedora

2008-12-25 Thread Harish Kumar Khanchandani

Dear Sir,

I have a Asus Motherboard model number P5KPL-VM .I have to install fedora 10 on 
this machine.Is this hardware compatible with fedora 10 . Please let me know.

Regards
Harish Kumar Khanchandani
Om Sai Ram


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System-Config-Network not working on Fedora 10 KDE spin

2008-12-25 Thread abhishek rane
I installed Fedora 10 KDE spin today and while trying to create a new
wireless connection the Forward button doesn't function at all.I also tried
creating a new Ethernet connection but still the Forward button even if
pressed 10 times wont show me anything.Any idea guys?

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Re: Hardware Compatibility with Fedora

2008-12-25 Thread Patrick

Harish Kumar Khanchandani wrote:


Dear Sir,

I have a Asus Motherboard model number P5KPL-VM .I have to install 
fedora 10 on this machine.Is this hardware compatible with fedora 10 . 
Please let me know.


Why don't you just download the F10 live CD and try if it works?

Merry Xmas!
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Re: I'm a newcomer to Fedora 10 Live CD

2008-12-25 Thread David Orman
Pedro,

That was a bit harsh for a response, to somebody trying to help - whether or
not it resolved your issue. That said, see
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=205360 - it seems to be a
common issue with some nVidia cards and the live cd. That was the first
result in Google. My laptop, for instance (Intel Graphics) does not require
any xorg.conf - and I believe this is an intended goal. Stuff like this
should just work without configuration necessary.

I checked the Fedora/RH bug tracker, and the first result was:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473301 . Different hardware
(although using 'nv' as well) and sounds like the same issue. I'd suggest
searching the bug reports for your exact issue, and if you find it to not be
a duplicate, submit a new bug report (attach X logs as well) so that it can
be (hopefully) resolved in future releases. I'm glad you found a temporary
work-around, there were some others posted in that first link if you'd like
to try.

Good luck,
David

On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Pedro Izecksohn pedro.izecks...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I'm  not familiar with running the live CD

   So you should not answer.

  You may need to run with the vesa driver.

   A proper xorg.conf was missing. I needed to create one with: X -configure
  Then I used it with:
 X -config /root/xorg.conf.new
 export DISPLAY=:0.0
 gnome-session
  and now I'm root inside Firefox.

  Could someone fix the appropriate script?

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Re: Need advice on music management software

2008-12-25 Thread Konstantin Svist
David Timms wrote:
 Konstantin Svist wrote:
 center/HTPC). Problem is, I'd like to merge the duplicate files (and
 I'd suggest file management tool fslint (gui) or fdupes (command line)
 for this part of the process. Both can be given a start storage path,
 and then recurse through all sub folders looking for 100% duplicate
 files by content (without reference to filename). This wouldn't find
 identical music whose files are different because of different tags,
 compression, or file format.

 Can't help you with the other parts of your grand plan ;-)

 DaveT.



Hrm...
I'm pretty sure I've heard of software that can compare music files on a
more fundamental level and tell me if I have duplicates in different
formats. I know for sure there's a graphics comparison program that does
this with images - I've used it once or twice :)

Either way, that's a neat functionality but not really what I'm looking
for. At this point the collection is not so huge that I can't deal with
duplicates manually. The problem right now is that I keep several
collections in one (because sync functionality is very important):

Music/user1/Beatles
Music/user2/Beatles
Music/user3/Beatles



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Re: System-Config-Network not working on Fedora 10 KDE spin

2008-12-25 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:56:00 +0530
abhishek rane wrote:

 I installed Fedora 10 KDE spin today and while trying to create a new
 wireless connection the Forward button doesn't function at all.I also tried
 creating a new Ethernet connection but still the Forward button even if
 pressed 10 times wont show me anything.Any idea guys?

Generally, if the forward button is greyed out or non-functional it means that
you have not yet filled out a required field on the form that you're currently
viewing.  (This is general advice and not specifically about
system-config-network so it may not apply to your specific situation.)

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Re: Advice to an audiophobe ??

2008-12-25 Thread Les

On Fri, 2008-12-26 at 01:04 +1100, David Timms wrote:
 William Case wrote:
  On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 08:30 +1030, Tim wrote:
  On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 10:55 -0500, William Case wrote:
 ...
  1. Gives me a whole range of adjustments for different channels.  (I
  assume channels means different sources  e.g. Master, Headphone, PCM etc.).
 Just to clarify, a source device generates an audio signal( line in, PCM 
 (pulse code modulation = wav uncompressed audio), that might then get 
 processed (eg volume control, master, headphone), and then sent to a 
 destination (often an output device like a speaker connector or 
 headphone jack).
 
 Because a typical soundcard has an internal hardware mixer, it can 
 usually mix together various inputs (sources) like CD input, mic input 
 and recorded audio signals, and produce a single output signal (mostly 
 in stereo=2 channels). When mixing together externally received signals, 
 no main CPU processing power is used, unless you are trying to record to 
 hard disk etc.
 
  2. gives me two choices and 
  3., 4., 5. gives me only Master.  
  Which should I choose and why?
 capture means recording - usually from a line in (eg from a vcr or mp3 
 player etc), or from a microphone. So exclude those from your choice.
 
  If I should be using HDA NVida (Alsa-mixer), why do I have PulseAudio
  options?
 Consider pulse audio to be a real-time digital mixer and volume control, 
 where the audio calculations are performed inside your main CPU. In the 
 default setup, once pulseaudio has done it's processing, it passes the 
 result to the alsa driver which outputs the audio data to the soundcard. 
 The soundcard turns the digital audio data into analog audio signals for 
   use with amplifier, speakers, or headphones.
 
 Pulseaudio also has enhanced capabilities like remembering that when you 
 playback with xmms that you like to output via your amplifiers and 
 speakers, but when you are viewing a flash video, to playback into your 
 headphones instead, at a different level. Another capability let's you 
 choose the destination playback device while the material is actually 
 being played. A third capability let's the output go to an audio device 
 on another machine. Obviously, this is a bit trickier to set up.
 
 ...
  These individual mixer input controls should normally be left off if you
  never use them, as they can each introduce noise (hiss, beeps and
  burbles, etc.) to the system.  
  I will turn them off except for Master and Front.  I will experiment
  with PC Speaker.  Of course these are only available to me if I use the
  default alsa mixer setting.
 It's not a one or other setting, both parts will still be involved; 
 pulseaudio will process, mix, and attenuate sound signals, whereas alsa 
 will drive the physical hardware. The setting you are seeing lets you 
 decide whether to control the physical driver volume levels or the 
 software generated pulseaudio volume controls. If you mute or turn the 
 alsa master way down, it wont matter how high you turn the pulseaudio 
 mixer, since the alsamixer comes after the pulseaudio one in the audio 
 chain. (also true for the reverse).
 
 If you play back a loud audio file, and turn both the pulseaudio source 
   and master up full. Then change to the alsa setting. You can then use 
 the also setting to set up an absolute maximum level that you would want 
 to hear, by adjusting the master. Then you could go back to the 
 pulseaudio setting to adjust the playback to a comfortable setting, and 
 from then on only use the pulseaudio setting.
 
 ...
* How is sound related to video ?
  
  Sound is the sound, video is the picture...  The question is too vague
  to be answerable.
 In digital format, sound and vision are both represented with digital 
 1's and 0's. With all video and audio file types, there is a packing 
 together of the audio and video information into the one file. The 
 multiplexed file provides information about when to playback each frame 
 of video in relation to the audio in the file. For example, an mpeg2 
 (dvd) file might have two frames of video, then 2 of audio, then 1 of 
 video, two audio in an order to achieve a consistent throughput of audio 
 and video data.
 
* Why are there so many files associated with producing sound?
 In digital audio, the most basic file type is waveform (.wav), where 
 each momentary value of audio is stored, on a 1 for 1 basis. Experiments 
 and calculations can show us that for something we store as quality 
 musical recording we need to sample that momentary value at 44kHz (times 
 per second) or higher so as not to disrupt our digital recording with 
 audio aliases. Since we also seem to enjoy the spatial enhancement 
 produced by stereo or more channels, the file needs to store both left 
 and right information. Finally, we found that if we only store the 
 digital value using a small no of bits per sample, when played back we 
 hear a harsh, chunky 

Kpilot for KDE4 ?

2008-12-25 Thread Kevin Kempter
Anyone know which package to install to get Kpilot for Kde 4 (on Fedora 10 
x86_64) ?


Thanks in advance


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driver nvidia

2008-12-25 Thread Alain Roger
Hi,

where can i find the newest drivers for nVidia graphic card for F10 ?
thx.

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Re: 64bit JRE Mozilla plugin ?

2008-12-25 Thread Jim

Kevin J. Cummings wrote:

Jim wrote:

Michael Cronenworth wrote:

Kevin Kempter wrote:


Hi all;

anyone know how to get a 64bit JRE/java plugin for firefox working ?

Thanks in advance



# yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin


I ran yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin and got the below Error 
message.


No package java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin available.



I have the following installed on my F9 system:

java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.0.0-0.20.b09.fc9.x86_64

It has a build date of 2008-12-02 and was built at 
x86-4.fedora.phx.redhat.com


The symlink list on my system looks like:

/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins-wrapped/libjavaplugin.so -
/usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so -
/etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 -
/usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk.x86_64/lib/amd64/gcjwebplugin.so



Kevin.
The symlinks to these, are they symlink from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins as 
in the 32bit setup.


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Merry Christmas - Happy Hanukkah - Happy Kwanzaa - Happy Festivus!

2008-12-25 Thread Thomas Cameron

Hey Fedora Community -

For those of you who observe, I just want to say Merry Christmas, Happy 
Hanukkah, Happy Kwanzaa and/or Happy Festivus as appropriate.  :-)


Whatever your beliefs, take this message in the spirit of peace, 
happiness and joy.  May you be blessed in the holiday season and I hope 
you have a happy, healthy and successful new year.


I'm very grateful to be a part of a community which is so smart and 
helpful.  Thanks for having me.  You really give me a lot of hope about 
the future.


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Re: I'm a newcomer to Fedora 10 Live CD

2008-12-25 Thread Jim Cornette

Pedro Izecksohn wrote:

I'm  not familiar with running the live CD


  So you should not answer.

Probably so.

Issuing xdriver=vesa as a kernel parameter on boot should allow the vesa 
driver to be loaded when you boot. Though I am not toying around with 
the Live CD, the X server should work the same as traditional installs.


The reference for me not being familiar with running the Live CD was a 
point, not a statement for me not being familiar with X. I know a bit 
about running X on different hardware.





You may need to run with the vesa driver.


  A proper xorg.conf was missing. I needed to create one with: X -configure
  Then I used it with:
X -config /root/xorg.conf.new
export DISPLAY=:0.0
gnome-session


Interesting! I use startx when logged in as regular user after copying 
the generated config file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf from /root/xorg.conf.new 
after testing X as root.


With a read-only distribution and many possible configurations, a file 
for all would not be practical.
Though when it fails to automagically detect the right driver, it should 
fall back to running a configuration utility to cover more hardware.



  and now I'm root inside Firefox.

  Could someone fix the appropriate script?



Running as root while using an Internet browser?

The appropriate script is to run a browser and X as a restricted user.

Jim

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Re: Kpilot for KDE4 ?

2008-12-25 Thread Marcelo Magno T. Sales
Em Qui 25 Dez 2008, Kevin Kempter escreveu:
 Anyone know which package to install to get Kpilot for Kde 4 (on
 Fedora 10 x86_64) ?

As far as KDE 4.1.3, it's not available. I've been told it will be back 
in 4.2, but haven't tested the betas yet.

[]'s
Marcelo

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Re: VMWare 6.5 and Fedora 10

2008-12-25 Thread Alain Roger
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:

 Alain Roger wrote:
 
  I'm reopening this issue not as such but as complementary information.
  when i run F10 (without desktop effect) under KDE, it always starts in
  800x600 under VMWare 6.5 whereas last session i set it up to 1200 x
  800 or to 1152 x 864.
  moreover, i setup the KDE Manager to display the same login windows as
  F10 KDE live... but nothing is displayed.
 
  so where could be the problem ?
  thx.
 Install vmware toolsbut don't allow it to change the xorg.conf.
 After that, when you start your F10 and log in go to konsole and type
 vmware-user.  If you have guest fix set it'll be fine.

 Remember, F10 was released *after* ws 6.5.


sorry to be stupid but i don't catch it.
1. i start F10
2. i login with my user account
3. i open a console and type vmware-user under the console 

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Getting em28xx to compile (v4l-dvb-kernel)

2008-12-25 Thread Rick Bilonick
I'm trying to compile v4l-dvb-kernel to get em28xx to work so that I can
use a Pinnacle PCTV HD Pro usb stick. I'm using Fedora 8:

[r...@localhost v4l-dvb-kernel]# make

running ./build.sh build

make[1]: Entering directory `/lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel'
rm -rf Module.symvers; 
make -C /lib/modules/`if [ -d /lib/modules/2.6.21.4-eeepc ]; then echo
2.6.21.4-eeepc; else uname -r; fi`/build SUBDIRS=`pwd` modules
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.26.6-49.fc8-i686'
  CC [M]  /lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em2880-dvb.o
In file included from /lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em2880-dvb.c:33:
/lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em28xx.h:31:20: error: dmxdev.h: No such
file or directory
/lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em28xx.h:32:23: error: dvb_demux.h: No such
file or directory
/lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em28xx.h:33:21: error: dvb_net.h: No such
file or directory
/lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em28xx.h:34:26: error: dvb_frontend.h: No
such file or directory
In file included from /lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em2880-dvb.c:33:
/lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em28xx.h:557: error: field ‘demux’ has
incomplete type
/lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em28xx.h:565: error: field ‘adapter’ has
incomplete type
/lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em28xx.h:568: error: field ‘dmxdev’ has
incomplete type
/lib/firmware/v4l-dvb-kernel/em28xx.h:570: error: field ‘dvbnet’ has
incomplete type

and so on.

For some reason, dmxdev.h, dvb_demux.h, dvb_net.h and dvb_frontend.h
files cannot be found. Any ideas on how to fix this and get the compile
working?

Rick B.

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Re: F9: Vnc's desktop window prevents right-side toolbar access

2008-12-25 Thread Daniel B. Thurman

David Timms wrote:

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

I noticed while doing a remote Vnc session that my Vnc
desktop is showing the right-side scrollbar covering my
right-side pop-out toolbar - thus preventing any access
to it.

Tried this in various window sizes and all performs the
same way.
Did you tell the vncserver to use a specific width x height ?  {make 
it about 40 pixels shorter and 24 pixels narrower than the display you 
will run your vnc client on.


Even if it doesn't fit, can't you just scroll the vnc window down and 
right so that you can then trigger the toolbar ?


DaveT.


Yes, I tried that.  The problem seems to be that the right-scrollbar
isn't placed correctly to allow for the main window's right side to
expose the full width of the actual window - seems to overlap
just enough to prevent access to the hidden pop-out toolbar.

Dan

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Gnome Session Management

2008-12-25 Thread Andreas Waldenburger
Hi all,

has this just slipped by me? Ever since I installed F10, Gnome seems to
have lost its session management capabilities. Not only does it not
remember running applications on logout, it also does not seem to start
startup programs I manually add (via the Session Preferences dialog).

What gives?

/W

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Re: Advice to an audiophobe ??

2008-12-25 Thread David Timms

William Case wrote:

David, Thank you;

If you cut and pasted these answers, I would love to know where (or what
site) you got them.  If you took the time to write them off the top of
your head, I doubly thank you. You have given me enough information to
do some proper research of my own particular questions and do a small
write up for my own use.
Unfortunately the background digital audio theory comes straight from my 
electronics and communication engineering degree course (15 years ago), 
but I guess became common knowledge to me due to interest and 
continued usage, both for at home and work (where we use audio DSP black 
boxes to save on needing to supply separate audio mixers, equalizers, 
volume controls, and audio routing boxes to client jobs). If you are 
into guitar, you might like to try a program like rakarrack. This 
provides audio processing functionality similar to what those DSP boxes 
can do, without the expense; but it does require a pretty decent CPU, 
and an understanding of the jack audio connection kit.


While I was expanding on Tim's answer's, I found myself starting to 
spout technical terms; I just backpedalled each time and tried to find 
non-technical words to describe the way things are.


In terms of audio apps in fedora, my summarizing way over-simplifies 
things, but hopefully it gives a good idea of the makeup of the system. 
( http://www.linux.com/feature/119926

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio flowchart a few screens down
http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/guide-to-sound-apis.html for a what 
sound system fits best where)


Thanks for the complement, David T.

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Re: VMWare 6.5 and Fedora 10

2008-12-25 Thread Ed Greshko
Alain Roger wrote:


 On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com
 mailto:ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:

 Alain Roger wrote:
 
  I'm reopening this issue not as such but as complementary
 information.
  when i run F10 (without desktop effect) under KDE, it always
 starts in
  800x600 under VMWare 6.5 whereas last session i set it up to 1200 x
  800 or to 1152 x 864.
  moreover, i setup the KDE Manager to display the same login
 windows as
  F10 KDE live... but nothing is displayed.
 
  so where could be the problem ?
  thx.
 Install vmware toolsbut don't allow it to change the xorg.conf.
 After that, when you start your F10 and log in go to konsole and type
 vmware-user.  If you have guest fix set it'll be fine.

 Remember, F10 was released *after* ws 6.5.


 sorry to be stupid but i don't catch it.
 1. i start F10
 2. i login with my user account
 3. i open a console and type vmware-user under the console 

 A.
Yes, that is what I meant to say.

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Re: Gnome Session Management

2008-12-25 Thread Peter Langfelder
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Andreas Waldenburger
wilde...@freakmail.de wrote:
 Hi all,

 has this just slipped by me? Ever since I installed F10, Gnome seems to
 have lost its session management capabilities. Not only does it not
 remember running applications on logout, it also does not seem to start
 startup programs I manually add (via the Session Preferences dialog).

 What gives?


Yes, Gnome session saving and restoring is broken... but on my F10
starting programs manually via session - startup works.

Peter

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Laptop locking up at Boot Process

2008-12-25 Thread Jim

FC10
My Dell Laptop is locking up in the boot process just after;

Starting anacron: [  OK ]

how can i tell what is locking it up

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Re: Laptop locking up at Boot Process

2008-12-25 Thread Jim

Jim wrote:

FC10
My Dell Laptop is locking up in the boot process just after;

Starting anacron: [  OK ]

how can i tell what is locking it up


How does one do a Rescue Mode in FC10

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Re: Laptop locking up at Boot Process

2008-12-25 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:10:40 -0500
Jim wrote:

 How does one do a Rescue Mode in FC10

Boot from the installer CD or DVD.  Select Rescue mode from the menu.

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F10 Strange Audio Errors

2008-12-25 Thread Sean Bruno
I'm seeing strange audio issues(skipping and buffering) when playing
audio from Amarok(1.4), Audacity and from the video game Quake Wars.

I have an on-board sound card:
00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97
Audio Controller (rev a2)

And a USB Turntable:
Bus 002 Device 005: ID 08bb:2900 Texas Instruments Japan PCM2900 Audio
Codec

Periodically, while Amarok(1.4) is playing back I see:
Dec 25 16:48:45 localhost pulseaudio[15582]: module-alsa-sink.c: ALSA
woke us up to write new data to the device, but there was actually
nothing to write! Most likely t
his is an ALSA driver bug. Please report this issue to the PulseAudio
developers.

When Audacity is recording from the USB turntable I see:
ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:351: frame 0 active: -70

And when Quake Wars is running, I see the following in the console
output:
snd_pcm_readi failed: Input/output error
snd_pcm_readi failed: Input/output error
snd_pcm_readi failed: Input/output error


Any ideas as to what is going on here?

Sean

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Re: screen settings

2008-12-25 Thread suvayu ali
2008/12/24 Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.com

 --- On Wed, 12/24/08, charles zeitler cfzeit...@gmail.com wrote:

  From: charles zeitler cfzeit...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: screen settings

   reason.  Do you have any proprietary drivers
  installed?
 
 
  radeontool ?
 I actually do not know much about these, all I've seen is the Xorg module
 radeon and another driver called radeonhd?  I do not know where it comes
 from.  Maybe someone on the list may help here?


I downloaded the binary drivers from
http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.htmlUsed it to make a distro
specific package. And installed it. My hardware is
a HD 4850. However all this was on Ubuntu. But the binary drivers also make
distro specific packages for F9 or below.

Since the OP is running F10, maybe he can try the proprietary drivers
available from livna before trying this.

However afaik the open source drivers should just work for the X1600 and
its always preferable to stick with them.

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Re: F10 Strange Audio Errors

2008-12-25 Thread Peter Langfelder
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Sean Bruno sean.br...@dsl-only.net wrote:
 I'm seeing strange audio issues(skipping and buffering) when playing
 audio from Amarok(1.4), Audacity and from the video game Quake Wars.

 I have an on-board sound card:
 00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97
 Audio Controller (rev a2)

 And a USB Turntable:
 Bus 002 Device 005: ID 08bb:2900 Texas Instruments Japan PCM2900 Audio
 Codec

 Periodically, while Amarok(1.4) is playing back I see:
 Dec 25 16:48:45 localhost pulseaudio[15582]: module-alsa-sink.c: ALSA
 woke us up to write new data to the device, but there was actually
 nothing to write! Most likely t
 his is an ALSA driver bug. Please report this issue to the PulseAudio
 developers.

 When Audacity is recording from the USB turntable I see:
 ALSA sound/usb/usbaudio.c:351: frame 0 active: -70

 And when Quake Wars is running, I see the following in the console
 output:
 snd_pcm_readi failed: Input/output error
 snd_pcm_readi failed: Input/output error
 snd_pcm_readi failed: Input/output error


 Any ideas as to what is going on here?

 Sean


I used to experience similar skipping and hesitating from Amarok
1.4... until I removed PulseAudio. Now amarok plays smoothly.

Peter

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Re: E-mail Server

2008-12-25 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 19:04 +0200, Leon Vergottini wrote:
 Hi
 
 I have been tasked to commissioned an e-mail server  in the first 
 quarter of next year.  I got this task because I am the only one at work 
 that plays and have a small bit of understanding of how Linux work.  So, 
 I am on a research spree.  I have already had a look at the following sites:
 
 The Linux document project
 How to forge
 Flurdy.com
 
 I do not ask for step by step instructions, although it will be nice, 
 however I ask that you guys will point me to resources on the internet 
 that may help me in this regard.
 
 Thank you very much
 
 Regards
 Leon

Leon,

Setting up a mail server is a great way to understand many aspects of
the internet.  I was elected in our firm to do the same thing.  It took
me two years and lots of study, but it was more than worthwhile.

Lots of others have given you advice and I concur with their advice to
use Centos 5.2 ... very stable

I have used sendmail as the MTA  It is easy to configure it to transfer
mail to a 'smart host' from a desktop.  It gets harder the more pieces
of it you choose to use.  Make sure you get the 'bat book' Sendmail!!!

In my opinion sendmail works much better when you use bind to have a
local dns server.  You can use sendmail without bind, but you have to
deal with sendmail having difficulty being able to identify your
internal machines from remote machine.  One of the other posters has
advised you to be careful of allowing unwanted relay privileges granted
to outside machines.  Make sure you study this subject well.

dovecot has been recommend and I have used it frequently with ease.  I
have not had the opportunity to install cyrus.  Make sure you understand
the difference between POP3 and IMAP.

procmail needs to be understood

spamassassin is great, and you will need to make sure you know how to
use a spam filter.

clamav is better, and I have used it as a sendmail milter and within
procmail.  The milter works better.

My advice is for you to start with a small steps, and do not give up.
You will feel like giving up but don't.  Make sure you get the 'bat
book'.

Good Luck!!!

Greg

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Re: E-mail Server

2008-12-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:15:22 -0600
Gregory P. Ennis wrote:

 I have used sendmail as the MTA  It is easy to configure it to transfer
 mail to a 'smart host' from a desktop.  It gets harder the more pieces
 of it you choose to use.  Make sure you get the 'bat book' Sendmail!!!

Careful, anyone saying sendmail is easy to configure may find
mental health workers closing in on them with a straight jacket :-).

I find postfix plenty confusing, but far simpler to deal with
than sendmail.

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Re: Kpilot for KDE4 ?

2008-12-25 Thread Rex Dieter
Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:

 Em Qui 25 Dez 2008, Kevin Kempter escreveu:
 Anyone know which package to install to get Kpilot for Kde 4 (on
 Fedora 10 x86_64) ?
 
 As far as KDE 4.1.3, it's not available. I've been told it will be back
 in 4.2, but haven't tested the betas yet.

It was dropped from 4.2 late in the release cycle too.  Upstream opensync 
support libraries just aren't ready yet. ):

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Re: E-mail Server

2008-12-25 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Thu, 2008-12-25 at 22:34 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
 On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:15:22 -0600
 Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
 
  I have used sendmail as the MTA  It is easy to configure it to transfer
  mail to a 'smart host' from a desktop.  It gets harder the more pieces
  of it you choose to use.  Make sure you get the 'bat book' Sendmail!!!
 
 Careful, anyone saying sendmail is easy to configure may find
 mental health workers closing in on them with a straight jacket :-).
 
 I find postfix plenty confusing, but far simpler to deal with
 than sendmail.
 

It did take me two years, and sometimes I needed a straight jacket for
myself. I still don't pretend to know everything sendmail does, but it
finally became easy to use.  :)  

I have not had the time or need to use postfix, but I hear it works
without the use of pharmacological products for the mail administrator.
You are probably right :)

Greg

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Re: E-mail Server

2008-12-25 Thread homburg
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:34:18 -0500
Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net wrote:

 
 I find postfix plenty confusing, but far simpler to deal
 with than sendmail.
 
I agree. It's also far less expensive and faster.

Until you have to deal with Weitse and the mailing list
group that is ;-)  Sometimes is seems that the singular
compelling purpose for the group's existence is to diminish
the size of one's ego.

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Re: Hidden download performance problem with Fedora 6-10 [ RESOLVED BUT NOT FIXED]

2008-12-25 Thread Chuck

Some consolidation took place...

kevin wrote:


 I just ran the F10 live CD on 3 other machines.  2 desktops and one
 wireless laptop.  Fedora worked fine on them all.
  ...
 It is now just this machine with the Intel and National Semi NICs.
 ok. Thats good...isolates things some. ;) 
 So I powered it down and switched the cables to the 3 enet ports; so
 now the Nat Semi is the one going to the internet.
 I Booted with F10 live CD and tried my wget experiment again.  Same
 old problems: Data error, interrupted downloads.  This box with
 Fedora just sucks.
 Interesting. 

 However, and I keep repeating this, OpenSUSE 11, Debian Lenny, Ubuntu
 8.04, PCLinuxOS 2007. Windows XP, Windows 2000 and ArchLinux all seem
 to handle things just fine. Only flavors of Fedora have a problem
 with this PC.
 Right. This points to some strange kernel bug or other issue with 

the  Fedora kernel. Is there anything in dmesg when it's having the
issues? 

 kevin 


In an attempt to isolate further, I examined everything that is unique
to this environment.  So I replaced the NetGear Ethernet to Wireless
Bridge which was between the suspect PC and the DSL modem (which is
wireless).  Guess what?  All is well.  That's right.  We are running
much better now.  I have installed F10 to a hard drive and am now
getting updates.

NOTE: Only Fedora variants seem to have a problem downloading things 
through the Netgear bridge.  Fortunately I have an alternate

bridge ( Buffalo brand ) to use.

Happy now.  I have resolved the problem, but since only Fedora has a
problem talking to the Netgear WGE101, I can't say it is fixed as far as 
Fedora is concerned.  I'm not gonna worry about it any more.



Thanks for reading...

charlie.




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