Re: F8 EOL?
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 09:11:16PM -0500, Steve wrote: > > Todd Zullinger wrote: > > Steve wrote: > > > Still nothing. > > > > Are you clicking the Search or Go button? If I enter eol (or EOL) in > > the search box and hit enter or click Go, I am taken to the right > > page. If I click search, I get no hits. > > Hmmm... > So if the Go button searches, Oddly enough, it just takes you to a page title matching whatever the term in the field is. It is also the default action for the [Enter] key. > then What (TF!) does the Search button do!? The search really prefers natural language terminology, but that still should have turned up in a title search. The title search doesn't seem to be happening, although it was part of the default search before. We just had a wiki upgrade, possibly the default search pattern wasn't kept. I'll look in to that, having titles searched by default seemed fairly useful. - Karsten -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41 pgpWCYQGcr6m1.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
alternatives for java_sdk?
I've encountered some oddities with the way that java is setup on my F10 system while trying to learn some java stuff. When I try to run `mvn jetty:run` I get the following exception over and over: """ java.lang.ClassCastException: gnu.java.nio.ServerSocketChannelImpl cannot be cast to java.nio.channels.SocketChannel """ I've traced that back to '/usr/lib/jvm/java' pointing to '/etc/alternatives/java_sdk' and that pointing to '/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-gcj'. When I do a `alternatives --config java` it shows '/usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk.x86_64/bin/java'. Typing `java -version` shows the correct version, but `/usr/lib/jvm/java/jre/bin/java -version` shows 1.5.0. On my F9 system the last command shows 1.6.0. I do have JPackage 5.0 (generic) stuff installed on both systems, and I have it set as an enabled repository normally. I've tried `alternatives --set java_sdk /usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk.x86_64`, which is the path my F9 system is showing, but that didn't work. Anyone have any ideas why this is set this way and how to fix it other than manually changing the symlinks? Thanks! --Caitlyn -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: X with no KDE
Dave Feustel wrote: > Is it possible to run X with no KDE software installed? > If yes, how would the KDE software be deleted? yum remove kdelibs should do the trick. -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Miro on F10
On Monday 29 December 2008 22:43:15 Kevin Kofler wrote: > You want some packages from RPM Fusion: > * for GStreamer: gstreamer-plugins-ugly, gstreamer-ffmpeg, possibly also: > gstreamer-plugins-bad, gstreamer-plugins-schroedinger > * for xine-lib: xine-lib-extras-freeworld Thanks Kevin: While I think your views on nVidia cards are extreme (I have six of them running at the moment on F9 and F10 with no issues), I thank you. The above packages did the trick for most files - I still can't play .mov files - any suggestions on that? -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: X with no KDE
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:21:17 -0500 Dave Feustel wrote: > Is it possible to run X with no KDE software installed? > If yes, how would the KDE software be deleted? > (And how would it be restored if I changed my mind?) Probably, but unless you are trying to reduce the amount of junk you need to download updates for, you can just not run KDE without having to actually remove it. The simplest way to get a bare-bones desktop going is to "yum install xorg-x11-xinit-session". That will give you the "user defined script" login option in gdm and you can run exactly what you want to run by putting whatever you want in your own ~/.xsession script. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Customised F10 iso with updated packages - how?
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 10:23 PM, Mike Cloaked wrote: > > Thanks for the link which is useful - though it seems to concentrate largely > on live media. My primary interest in this case is to make install media but > include updated rpms. It looks like revisor will be the optional tool so I > will need to do some reading about it... Use pungi, By using this tool, I can build a install CD for XFCE desktop with all updates. Have a look at http://tinyurl.com/8mqutd -- http://vnoss.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: X with no KDE
On Tuesday 30 December 2008 00:21:17 Dave Feustel wrote: > Is it possible to run X with no KDE software installed? > If yes, how would the KDE software be deleted? > (And how would it be restored if I changed my mind?) > > Thanks. Of course, KDE is just one of the many DE(Desktop Environment) available. The other most common one is GNOME. You are free to choose whichever one you like! If you want to remove KDE completely, you can do: su -c 'yum groupremove kde-desktop' and if you want to install it back: su -c 'yum groupinstall kde-desktop' But beware, when you remove it, there are some other things that might get removed like (I think) NetworkManager! -- Armin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
X with no KDE
Is it possible to run X with no KDE software installed? If yes, how would the KDE software be deleted? (And how would it be restored if I changed my mind?) Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ipod, what Fedora App. will sync with.
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> Amarok 2 no longer works with media players, including ipods. This is >> supposed to be fixed some time down the road. > > iPods are supposed to be supported, but the emphasis is on "supposed to", > there are reports to the contrary. Support for MTP devices is also there in > principle. Plain USB mass storage devices are currently not supported > (except as regular file system directories). To paraphrase the Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, this must be some strange new usage of the word "support" with which I was not previously familiar. Amarok 2 from the standard (non-testing) Fedora repo does not support any media player, including ipods, in any shape or form. I don't mean the support doesn't work, I mean it isn't physically there. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: best video card for fedora 10
Kevin Kofler wrote: Thomas Cameron wrote: From what I typically see on the lists, NVidia cards with the proprietary driver typically work well. That is, if you don't have an overwhelming objection to using closed source drivers. You must not be reading the same lists I do... ;-) I guess it depends on which lists you read and how much faith in put in the postings there. Yes, many people complain on the fedora-list about nVidia and their proprietary drivers. Many of those complaints are rooted in the fact (as you elude to below) that they are not free (as in speech). They are free to download and use (but you can't distribute them), and you just don't get the same support from nVidia as you would if you were running that less secure OS from Redmond, WA. In fact, in the MythTV world, they practically swear by nVidia and nothing else. And they don't seem to have as many problems configuring the proprietary blob as some people do here. So, it all depends on what you want to do with your video card. In another thread someone asked what card was the best for using in runlevels 1 & 3. Well, if all you need is a text console, then *any* VGA compatible card will do. If you want to be able to see graphics, maybe a card that support more video modes than 640x480 is better. If you want to watch video, then I would lean towards nVidia. Their video support is *much* further along than Intel or ATI. Their proprietary drivers support XvMC for some of their older hardware and VDPAU support for their newer hardware makes displaying HD video much easier on lesser capable CPUs. I'm not a gamer, so I can't speak for the gaming capabilities of the various video cards. So, each question will have different answers depending on the intended usage. I see no ends of complaints on this list as well as the fedora-test-list and fedora-devel-list and IRC about all sorts of obscure bugs caused by proprietary drivers (and nvidia in particular). They are not supported nor even supportable by anybody other than the manufacturer, who usually does a horrible job, in particular their installer scripts invariably overwrite system libraries in a way which will break as soon as the system package is updated and which also makes uninstalling the driver a hit-or-miss experience. Don't buy NVidia! Nor a Radeon HD, those are not supported by the Free (as in speech) drivers yet either. VESA, nv, nouveau, and nvidia (with 3 different versions for various cards) for nVidia hardware, the last one (three) is (are) the proprietary driver(s). I run the nvidia-96xx version on my old MX400 card which is soon to be replaced by an nVidia 6200 card (the gold standard for MythTV SD TV support). Yes, my home Fedora server is also my MythTV backend. VESA, ati, radeon, radeonhd, and fglrx for ATI hardware, the last one again being the proprietary driver. My laptop has a Mobility Radeon X1600 video chipset which requires the fglrx drivers for best use of videos, and I wish to hell it was an nVidia chipset instead on ATI. I also have a very old machine with a Radeon 7000 video card, and its practically useless for displaying even SD video. I'm not even sure about the Intel drivers, but these are mostly motherboard video chipsets, so if you have one, you don't have much choice. Kevin Kofler -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Miro on F10
Claude Jones wrote: > I've just installed Miro and I can't get video to playback. Originally, > nothing would play. I went into options and switched to gstreamer and that > got the audio going. I've tried all the settings for xine and have > installed xine and all the windows codecs from the mplayer site and I've > tried all the combinations in options. Been googling this for awhile, and > keep finding suggestions to switch to gstreamer, but I've already done > that. > > Anyone have a suggestion? You want some packages from RPM Fusion: * for GStreamer: gstreamer-plugins-ugly, gstreamer-ffmpeg, possibly also: gstreamer-plugins-bad, gstreamer-plugins-schroedinger * for xine-lib: xine-lib-extras-freeworld Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: best video card for fedora 10
Don Raikes wrote: > The ati radeon video card on my gateway desktop has failed, so I am > starting to look for a new video card, and am wondering which is the best > for fedora 10. > > I will do most of my workin console mode ( run level 3), and some work in > the gnome desktop. > > I am not a gamer of any sort, and do not plan on watching many (if any > dvd's) on it. I just need basic video capabilities, and don't want ot > spend a ton of money. You want another Radeon, one of the cheaper ones which are also supported by the Free Software drivers. This is the current status: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon The Radeon 7000 - X1950 range is what you're looking for. Most likely you want something on the lower end of the scale, given your requirements. Don't buy a Radeon in the X/HD 2000 - X/HD 4870 range though: * Those are not supported by the Free drivers yet, only by a buggy proprietary driver which last I checked was reported not to work on Fedora 10 at all. The DRI status page claims that "first working 3D snapshot drivers are probably available by the end of 2008", but it's almost the end of 2008 already and no such thing is in sight. * They're also too expensive and powerful for the kind of use you're describing. And whatever you do, DON'T BUY NVIDIA! Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: best video card for fedora 10
Kevin Kofler wrote: > Thomas Cameron wrote: > >> From what I typically see on the lists, NVidia cards with the >> proprietary driver typically work well. That is, if you don't have an >> overwhelming objection to using closed source drivers. >> > > You must not be reading the same lists I do... ;-) > I must be on a totally different list too. Or maybe it is just that the happy people don't post too much. I also have a nVidia Corporation GeForce 7300 GT (rev a2) and use the binary blob directly from nVidia. I've been a happy nVidia camper for the past 6 years. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: best video card for fedora 10
Thomas Cameron wrote: > From what I typically see on the lists, NVidia cards with the > proprietary driver typically work well. That is, if you don't have an > overwhelming objection to using closed source drivers. You must not be reading the same lists I do... ;-) I see no ends of complaints on this list as well as the fedora-test-list and fedora-devel-list and IRC about all sorts of obscure bugs caused by proprietary drivers (and nvidia in particular). They are not supported nor even supportable by anybody other than the manufacturer, who usually does a horrible job, in particular their installer scripts invariably overwrite system libraries in a way which will break as soon as the system package is updated and which also makes uninstalling the driver a hit-or-miss experience. Don't buy NVidia! Nor a Radeon HD, those are not supported by the Free (as in speech) drivers yet either. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ipod, what Fedora App. will sync with.
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Amarok 2 no longer works with media players, including ipods. This is > supposed to be fixed some time down the road. iPods are supposed to be supported, but the emphasis is on "supposed to", there are reports to the contrary. Support for MTP devices is also there in principle. Plain USB mass storage devices are currently not supported (except as regular file system directories). Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: best video card for fedora 10
Don Raikes wrote: Hi everyone, I have been watching this list for a while. The ati radeon video card on my gateway desktop has failed, so I am starting to look for a new video card, and am wondering which is the best for fedora 10. I will do most of my workin console mode ( run level 3), and some work in the gnome desktop. I am not a gamer of any sort, and do not plan on watching many (if any dvd's) on it. I just need basic video capabilities, and don't want ot spend a ton of money. Any suggestions appreciated. I use an NVidia GeForce 7300 GT card that lspci reports as: nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7300 GT] (rev a1) I feel kinda dirty saying this, but I use the proprietary NVidia driver for it and I have been very impressed with it. I do dual head using the DVI and the VGA ports and it works great with a pair of ViewSonic 1440x900 LCD flat screens. Desktop effects and compiz-fusion do the cool wobbly window goodness. Very pretty. Using the open source driver, I've never been able to get dual head to work. Also, the open source driver doesn't seem to do accelerated 3D. I'm running RHEL 5 on this box right now but I go back and forth with Fedora depending on what I'm working on, and the NVidia driver works great with both. From what I typically see on the lists, NVidia cards with the proprietary driver typically work well. That is, if you don't have an overwhelming objection to using closed source drivers. -- Thomas -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: unsung heros [OT]
> Linux is an ecosystem, and while there might be some folks at the top of the > celebrity chain, everyone who contributes > is one of your unsung heros. Well said. And there are as you say a lot of them who are not code writers. To non English communities there are translator heroes, there are mailing list wizards and far more. I wonder how many kernel developers know what Matti Aarnio does ;) Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: unsung heros [OT]
jackie wallen wrote: hello fedora list, i have been around the linux/open source community for a long time. i haven't been on this list for a while however. let me get to the point. i am a freelance writer for CNET/Techrepublic. i am currently putting together an article "10 Unsung Linux Heros" and am looking for good suggestions for candidates from this and other Linux-related lists. would anyone care to contribute ideas? thank you so much (and sorry for being off topic). I don't know any individual I would consider an unsung hero. However, I would suggest there are many unsung heros in the linux world. The people who help others day in and day out on this list are unsung heros. Sharing their knowledge with all and sundry for only the satisfaction of doing it. The people who develop all the nuts and bolts that make linux the everything and the kitchen sink of operating systems are unsung heros. Not the headliners only, but all the people in the trenches. Some especially unsung heros are the people who maintain the documentation, build the wikis, create the visual effects, maintain the websites, resolve the problem tickets. Linux is an ecosystem, and while there might be some folks at the top of the celebrity chain, everyone who contributes is one of your unsung heros. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Installing Fedora on a Strato root server
Hi, there is no Fedora image yet at Strato for having a Fedora server. What do you do in order to install Fedora on a Strato server? I thought of copying over the pxe images and booting into a kickstart controlled install from my personal servers, or maybe even using koan/cobbler? What's the most elegant/efficient way? Thanks! -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net pgpKffe4m9G5k.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: unsung heros [OT]
On Monday 29 December 2008 20:32:14 jackie wallen wrote: > hello fedora list, > > i have been around the linux/open source community for a long time. i > haven't been on this list for a while however. let me get to the point. > i am a freelance writer for CNET/Techrepublic. i am currently putting > together an article "10 Unsung Linux Heros" and am looking for good > suggestions for candidates from this and other Linux-related lists. > > would anyone care to contribute ideas? > > thank you so much (and sorry for being off topic). > > -- > Jack Wallen, Jr > > "Idealists...foolish enough to throw caution to the winds...have > advanced mankind and have enriched the world." Emma Goldman Well, I would say, in a Fedora list you would get a lot of responses for Fedora! And I, indeed, think Fedora is the ideal distribution for me and it just works the way I want it to work. One thing I really like about it is that it's bleeding edge and all the new stuff (NetworkManager, Plymouth, Smolt, etc.) come to Fedora first and then make their way to other distributions. Right now I'm in a rush and I have to go, but I will get back to you later :) -- Armin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora 10: best video card
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 10:46:41PM +, Don Raikes wrote: > > The video card on my gateway desktop has failed, so as I shop for a new one, > I am wondering what cards are best with fedora 10. > > I work mostly at run leve l 3 (console), with occassions when I go into the > gnome desktop. > > I ddo not play any games, and as yet have not had a reason to watch any > movies on my fedora system, but that may change. > Since you do not do any heavy graphics and only use Gnome on occasion any card will do.In your case it is hard to ignore any card. The cards with closed source acceleration like nVidea will run X fine without the acceleration provided by closed source (i.e. vesa mode). I always look for digital output as my display has that option and I can see the difference (with my glasses on). Look for last years card on sale. Select one that does not have an onboard fan (lower power). -- T o m M i t c h e l l Found me a new hat, now what? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
unsung heros [OT]
hello fedora list, i have been around the linux/open source community for a long time. i haven't been on this list for a while however. let me get to the point. i am a freelance writer for CNET/Techrepublic. i am currently putting together an article "10 Unsung Linux Heros" and am looking for good suggestions for candidates from this and other Linux-related lists. would anyone care to contribute ideas? thank you so much (and sorry for being off topic). -- Jack Wallen, Jr "Idealists...foolish enough to throw caution to the winds...have advanced mankind and have enriched the world." Emma Goldman -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Brother color laser printer issues
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 03:40:20PM -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote: > Hi all; > > I have a network based Brother HL 4040-CN printer. > > I tried to set it up with cups via ipp://address/ipp/ but could never > communicate with the printer this way - I keep getting this error: > "Destination printer does not exist!" Only info I can give is peripheral: My HL2070N works great when configured as IPP in the same manner as you show. (it's a cheap monochrome laser printer). NOTE: you probably need to specify port 631--mine does: ipp://192.168.2.99:631/ipp which works fine here. > I can setup an lpd printer but the colors are all muddy and dark. I suspect that color quality depends very much on the paper you use. -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us Do you not know? Have you not heard? The LORD is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He will not grow tired or weary, and his understanding no one can fathom. - Isaiah 40:28 (niv) - pgpbJsyi1mQ3P.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: VMware Server 2.0, selinux, and F10
On Monday 29 December 2008 18:38:35 Christopher A. Williams wrote: > Hopefully between all of us we can figure out what's > going on here. yes, that's the kind of talk I like to hear last time I was in London was 41 years ago... -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wolfenstein on x86_64
On Mon, 2008-12-29 at 00:47 -0600, Stephen Croll wrote: > On Sun, 2008-12-28 at 23:54 -0500, Louis E Garcia II wrote: > > I got the game running except for sound, I don't hear anything. I > > believe wolfenstein uses oss and /dev/dsp is present. Is there a i386 > > compat package for oss? > > > > -Thanks > > I don't know if this info is current, but on an F7 x86_64 box, I > followed the instructions on this page to get sound working: > http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Quake_3#Sound > > Specifically, I did: > >echo "wolfsp.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss >echo "wolfsp.x86 0 0 disable" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss >echo "wolf.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss >echo "wolf.x86 0 0 disable" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss I've tried this but my system does not have /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss The module that provides this file is built into the kernel so I have no idea. The other one is present (pcm0c). -Louis -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
networkmanager and wpa_supplicant
Hi, I want to know where is stored configuration of wpa supplicant, for example when one use a wpa2 enterprise ttls + pap connection. -- -- Open Kairos http://www.openkairos.com Watch More TV http://sebelk.blogspot.com Sergio Belkin - -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: VMware Server 2.0, selinux, and F10
On Mon, 2008-12-29 at 12:27 -0500, Claude Jones wrote: > On Monday 29 December 2008 11:09:48 Christopher A. Williams wrote: > > Thus, in our testing of this, it is clear there are multiple issues with > > VMware Server and selinux. One of the issues is that a specific module > > requires text relocation, which is easily solved. The other issue is > > going to be a little more difficult to troubleshoot, but clearly there > > is something that conflicts between selinux and one of the new VMware > > Server services, and the only way to get around it at this point is to > > disable selinux. > > Thanks for this report, Christopher. I can't comment because I'm still not > running Ver 2, but my issue with your previous posts on this question is > addressed by this. Hopefully, Dan Walsh will appear before you lose access to > the system and can try to help figure things out - he's always been extremely > helpful to me when he's dealt with issues I've had. Well, the good news is I have to put this server back into production so that I can work on the other server. It's the identical hardware / software combo, but running on F9. We're going to transfer the VMs across to the freshly loaded F10 box and then do this all over again with the other machine. The real issue for me is that I'll be traveling to London next week on business, and with no VPN access available for this, I'll be just a little too far away to get to either server. I'll still monitor the list though, and it seems several others have been able to reproduce exactly what I have found. Hopefully between all of us we can figure out what's going on here. Cheers, Chris -- "If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' someone else's dog around." --Cowboy Wisdom -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Webcam Recommendations (was: The Best)
Jim wrote: Try to use relevant subject lines. I originally thought you were wishing the list a Happy New Year...and all The Best. So, I wasn't even going to read it. > > What is the best Webcam Video Recorder for Fedora. > I installed Cheese and recorded Video .ogv file but it is a still > video ,no movement. > I used the Dragon Video Player to play video.ogv file but no movement > a fix photo (yes, I was recording in Video). > Good luck in your search. I personally don't use a webcam -- momentum, n.: What you give a person when they are going away. mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: best video card for fedora 10
Unfortunately, there doesn't appear to be any on-board graphics controller, or at least there is no external port for it :-) The system is about 5-6 years old or so. -Original Message- From: Petrus de Calguarium [mailto:kwhisk...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 2:07 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: best video card for fedora 10 Don Raikes wrote: > I will do most of my workin console mode ( run level 3), and some work in > the gnome desktop. > Stick with the motherboard's onboard Intel graphics. Supports 3D and works great on the modern desktop. No proprietary drivers required. Just install system and go! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Miro on F10
I've just installed Miro and I can't get video to playback. Originally, nothing would play. I went into options and switched to gstreamer and that got the audio going. I've tried all the settings for xine and have installed xine and all the windows codecs from the mplayer site and I've tried all the combinations in options. Been googling this for awhile, and keep finding suggestions to switch to gstreamer, but I've already done that. Anyone have a suggestion? -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Brother color laser printer issues
Hi all; I have a network based Brother HL 4040-CN printer. I tried to set it up with cups via ipp://address/ipp/ but could never communicate with the printer this way - I keep getting this error: "Destination printer does not exist!" I can setup an lpd printer but the colors are all muddy and dark. Thoughts ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Customised F10 iso with updated packages - how?
Armin Moradi wrote: > > > You can take the concept and apply it to DVD Media, just take the DVD > kickstart file instead of the livecd kickstart! > > Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Customised-F10-iso-with-updated-packages---how--tp21208881p21210336.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
fedora 10: best video card
Hi everyone, The video card on my gateway desktop has failed, so as I shop for a new one, I am wondering what cards are best with fedora 10. I work mostly at run leve l 3 (console), with occassions when I go into the gnome desktop. I ddo not play any games, and as yet have not had a reason to watch any movies on my fedora system, but that may change. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: HUP doesn't send to processes when logout
Jerry Feldman wrote:
On 12/29/2008 04:56 PM, ƽÌ캫 wrote:
2008/12/30, Jerry Feldman :
On 12/29/2008 10:05 AM, ƽÌ캫 wrote:
hi,
It seems that when I logout from the console, the background process
doesn't get HUP signal:
{ trap "echo Ignore HUP >>/tmp/trap.out" 1; while sleep 3;do echo
hello >>/tmp/hello.txt;done; }&
And it seems it will become a daemon and run forever until rebooting.
Is this correct? Why it didn't get HUP signal?
Thanks!
Are you running this from a terminal window?
I am running this in tty2, a console. I just type those into the
console and run it, then logout.
Are you possibly setting nohup in your environment.
It seems it is. But how?
Are you typing the above commands directly? What happens if you place
these into a script and run the script in the background?
There are a number of things that can cause a shell script to ignore the
HUP signal. I tested this as a script on an Ubuntu laptop, and it
behaved the same as yours:
The process remained. So the issue is not that exiting the parent
process (GNOME Term) or logging out of GNOME fails to issue a HUP, it is
that the process itself ignores the HUP signal since I sent a "kill -HUP
" to the process.
If you simply send the HUP signal, you will see that "Ignore HUP" will
appear in /tmp/trap.out".
I have the same results with you.
The signal(1) command is probably the culprit, though the man pages are
vague.
I suspect of that maybe the logout doesn't send out HUP to these
background processes?
After looking at this again now that I understand the specific issue. I
would agree.
By default, the "huponexit" option is NOT set on bash shells, so a
terminating interactive shell does NOT send HUPs to background
processes.
Try it again, but run "shopt -s huponexit" before executing the
background process. When you log out, HUPs should be sent to child
processes.
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Re: Customised F10 iso with updated packages - how?
On Monday 29 December 2008 17:23:09 Mike Cloaked wrote: > Armin Moradi wrote: > > They are called Fedora Remixes: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom/Creating_Fedora_Remix > > > > and they are easy to make, I made one for my school's computer club which > > had > > some devel libraries we needed! > > Thanks for the link which is useful - though it seems to concentrate > largely on live media. My primary interest in this case is to make install > media but include updated rpms. It looks like revisor will be the optional > tool so I will need to do some reading about it... > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Customised-F10-iso-with-updated-packages---how--tp212 >08881p21209318.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. You can take the concept and apply it to DVD Media, just take the DVD kickstart file instead of the livecd kickstart! -- Armin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is CImg.h
Jim wrote: Phil Meyer wrote: Jim wrote: FC10/KDE Went to the CImg website and downloaded the tar.gz file but it won't compile, just locks up the compiling process. The examples compiled just fine for me. F10 x86_64 / Current Be patient -- C++ code can take a while to compile. :) Good Luck! I have the CImg-1.2.9.tar.gz and extracted it. Just what file do you compile ? They have a number of ways. I want to compile i386 There's usually an "INSTALL" text file that'll tell you how to do it. Generally, it's... $ ./configure $ make $ make install but check for INSTALL or README text files in the untarred directory. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Perseverance: When you're too damned stubborn to say "I quit!" - -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: HUP doesn't send to processes when logout
On 12/29/2008 04:56 PM, 平天韩 wrote:
> 2008/12/30, Jerry Feldman :
>
>> On 12/29/2008 10:05 AM, 平天韩 wrote:
>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> It seems that when I logout from the console, the background process
>>> doesn't get HUP signal:
>>> { trap "echo Ignore HUP >>/tmp/trap.out" 1; while sleep 3;do echo
>>> hello >>/tmp/hello.txt;done; }&
>>> And it seems it will become a daemon and run forever until rebooting.
>>> Is this correct? Why it didn't get HUP signal?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Are you running this from a terminal window?
>>
>
> I am running this in tty2, a console. I just type those into the
> console and run it, then logout.
>
>
>> Are you possibly setting nohup in your environment.
>>
>
> It seems it is. But how?
>
>
>> Are you typing the above commands directly? What happens if you place
>> these into a script and run the script in the background?
>>
>> There are a number of things that can cause a shell script to ignore the
>> HUP signal. I tested this as a script on an Ubuntu laptop, and it
>> behaved the same as yours:
>>
>> The process remained. So the issue is not that exiting the parent
>> process (GNOME Term) or logging out of GNOME fails to issue a HUP, it is
>> that the process itself ignores the HUP signal since I sent a "kill -HUP
>> " to the process.
>>
>> If you simply send the HUP signal, you will see that "Ignore HUP" will
>> appear in /tmp/trap.out".
>>
>>
> I have the same results with you.
>
>
>> The signal(1) command is probably the culprit, though the man pages are
>> vague.
>>
>>
> I suspect of that maybe the logout doesn't send out HUP to these
> background processes?
>
After looking at this again now that I understand the specific issue. I
would agree.
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Re: Where is CImg.h
Phil Meyer wrote: Jim wrote: FC10/KDE Went to the CImg website and downloaded the tar.gz file but it won't compile, just locks up the compiling process. The examples compiled just fine for me. F10 x86_64 / Current Be patient -- C++ code can take a while to compile. :) Good Luck! I have the CImg-1.2.9.tar.gz and extracted it. Just what file do you compile ? They have a number of ways. I want to compile i386 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: HUP doesn't send to processes when logout
2008/12/30, Jerry Feldman :
> On 12/29/2008 10:05 AM, 平天韩 wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> It seems that when I logout from the console, the background process
>> doesn't get HUP signal:
>> { trap "echo Ignore HUP >>/tmp/trap.out" 1; while sleep 3;do echo
>> hello >>/tmp/hello.txt;done; }&
>> And it seems it will become a daemon and run forever until rebooting.
>> Is this correct? Why it didn't get HUP signal?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
> Are you running this from a terminal window?
I am running this in tty2, a console. I just type those into the
console and run it, then logout.
> Are you possibly setting nohup in your environment.
It seems it is. But how?
> Are you typing the above commands directly? What happens if you place
> these into a script and run the script in the background?
>
> There are a number of things that can cause a shell script to ignore the
> HUP signal. I tested this as a script on an Ubuntu laptop, and it
> behaved the same as yours:
>
> The process remained. So the issue is not that exiting the parent
> process (GNOME Term) or logging out of GNOME fails to issue a HUP, it is
> that the process itself ignores the HUP signal since I sent a "kill -HUP
> " to the process.
>
> If you simply send the HUP signal, you will see that "Ignore HUP" will
> appear in /tmp/trap.out".
>
I have the same results with you.
> The signal(1) command is probably the culprit, though the man pages are
> vague.
>
I suspect of that maybe the logout doesn't send out HUP to these
background processes?
> --
> Jerry Feldman
> Boston Linux and Unix
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Re: Where is CImg.h
Jim wrote: FC10/KDE Went to the CImg website and downloaded the tar.gz file but it won't compile, just locks up the compiling process. The examples compiled just fine for me. F10 x86_64 / Current Be patient -- C++ code can take a while to compile. :) Good Luck! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help! can't login
On 12/29/2008 01:56 PM, Don Raikes wrote: Hi all, I have fedora 10 installed on my gateway desktop. It has been running fine for several weeks. Over the weekend, I had ot reboot the system, and when the grub boot menu appears, the system just locks up. I have no keyboard control, and cannot get the system to proceed at all. There is only one entry in my menu.lst file, which is the same entry that has been there for a month now. Any suggestions would be appreciated. This has been discussed in previous threads. I assume that the system is not booting your kernel and GRUB gets as far as "GRUB". In this case, the easiest thing to to is to reinstall grub. You can boot your installation media, and select update existing system. At some point, it will ask you about the boot loader. Select install new boot loader. You should be able to live with this, but to be safe, once you boot successfully, you should probably reinstall GRUB just to get the latest version from the repository. In my case I also found that I had duplicate entries in my /boot/grub/grub.conf, and the default boot was one of the older kernels, but I fixed that manually. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Compiling Programs for F10
On Mon, 2008-12-29 at 19:05 -0200, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Rick Bilonick > wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-12-29 at 18:21 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > Rick Bilonick wrote: > > > I'm trying to compile v4l-dvb for Fedora 10. Besides gcc, > make, and > > > kernel headers, what needs to be installed? I've compiled > this for > > > Fedora 8 and Ubuntu 8.10 without any problems. But I'm > getting errors > > > when I try to compile for F10. > > > > > > > > I get the feeling if you post the errors you are getting > that someone > > will be able to tell you what devel package you are missing. > > > I did that some time ago but did not receive any responses. > I'll have to > try again. > > > > > You have to use the latest svn, or try ATrpms pre-compiled drivers: > > http://atrpms.net/dist/f10/video4linux/ > > > > -- > Paulo Roma Cavalcanti > LCG - UFRJ I did use the latest svn (if I understand correctly). I used "mercurial" which installed hg and I guess pulls in the code. I will look into the ATrpms as an alternative. Thanks. Rick B. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Customised F10 iso with updated packages - how?
Armin Moradi wrote: > > > They are called Fedora Remixes: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom/Creating_Fedora_Remix > > and they are easy to make, I made one for my school's computer club which > had > some devel libraries we needed! > > Thanks for the link which is useful - though it seems to concentrate largely on live media. My primary interest in this case is to make install media but include updated rpms. It looks like revisor will be the optional tool so I will need to do some reading about it... -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Customised-F10-iso-with-updated-packages---how--tp21208881p21209318.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is CImg.h
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Jim wrote: > FC10/KDE > Went to the CImg website and downloaded the tar.gz file but it won't > compile, just locks up the compiling process. There don't seem to be any existing packages for Fedora, and the developer doesn't appear to provide an RPM. -- Fedora 9 : sulphur is good for the skin ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Where is CImg.h
FC10/KDE Went to the CImg website and downloaded the tar.gz file but it won't compile, just locks up the compiling process. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Compiling Programs for F10
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Rick Bilonick wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-12-29 at 18:21 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > Rick Bilonick wrote: > > > I'm trying to compile v4l-dvb for Fedora 10. Besides gcc, make, and > > > kernel headers, what needs to be installed? I've compiled this for > > > Fedora 8 and Ubuntu 8.10 without any problems. But I'm getting errors > > > when I try to compile for F10. > > > > > > > > I get the feeling if you post the errors you are getting that someone > > will be able to tell you what devel package you are missing. > > I did that some time ago but did not receive any responses. I'll have to > try again. > > You have to use the latest svn, or try ATrpms pre-compiled drivers: http://atrpms.net/dist/f10/video4linux/ -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Customised F10 iso with updated packages - how?
On Monday 29 December 2008 16:45:44 Mike Cloaked wrote: > I decided naively that it would be nice to make a new version of the f10 > DVD iso that included the packages that were updated since F10 release - a > personal re-spin if you like. However despite trying to google for jigdo > options, as well as revisor and pungi I am now rather confused as to > whether it is a job that can be done without too much effort. > > What I naively thought was that I could loop mount the original F10 DVD iso > and then run jigdo-file to create a modified iso using the rpm files in > /var/cache/yum/updates/packages/ to generate new .jigdo and .template files > that could then be used by jigdo-lite to generate a respin iso - but it > seems that it is not as simple as that! Perhaps I just did not understand > the documentation I read! > > Can anyone point me to a howto that will allow me to create this kind of > "more-current" f10 iso so that further installs on other machines might > a) avoid having to run yum update to pull in lots of files, and only a > small number in updates repors since I create the new iso after the install > and b) avoid some of the known serious bugs such as the scsi disk > non-bootable machine bug with updated nash/mkinitrd > > It would be nice if this were possible for a relatively experienced linux > user but who does not have the detailed knowledge about this specific task. > > Thanks > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Customised-F10-iso-with-updated-packages---how--tp212 >08881p21208881.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. They are called Fedora Remixes: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom/Creating_Fedora_Remix and they are easy to make, I made one for my school's computer club which had some devel libraries we needed! -- Armin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Customised F10 iso with updated packages - how?
I decided naively that it would be nice to make a new version of the f10 DVD iso that included the packages that were updated since F10 release - a personal re-spin if you like. However despite trying to google for jigdo options, as well as revisor and pungi I am now rather confused as to whether it is a job that can be done without too much effort. What I naively thought was that I could loop mount the original F10 DVD iso and then run jigdo-file to create a modified iso using the rpm files in /var/cache/yum/updates/packages/ to generate new .jigdo and .template files that could then be used by jigdo-lite to generate a respin iso - but it seems that it is not as simple as that! Perhaps I just did not understand the documentation I read! Can anyone point me to a howto that will allow me to create this kind of "more-current" f10 iso so that further installs on other machines might a) avoid having to run yum update to pull in lots of files, and only a small number in updates repors since I create the new iso after the install and b) avoid some of the known serious bugs such as the scsi disk non-bootable machine bug with updated nash/mkinitrd It would be nice if this were possible for a relatively experienced linux user but who does not have the detailed knowledge about this specific task. Thanks -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Customised-F10-iso-with-updated-packages---how--tp21208881p21208881.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: best video card for fedora 10
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:23:46 + (GMT) Don Raikes wrote: > The ati radeon video card on my gateway desktop has failed, so I am starting > to look for a new video card, and am wondering which is the best for fedora > 10. I have an ATI Raedon X1550 in this computer and it works really well with the open-source driver that comes with Fedora 10. I could never get the open source driver to give me the proper resolution on my wide screen monitor with Fedora 9 and below (an Acer AL2223W) but it works great now with Fedora 10. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
best video card for fedora 10
Hi everyone, I have been watching this list for a while. The ati radeon video card on my gateway desktop has failed, so I am starting to look for a new video card, and am wondering which is the best for fedora 10. I will do most of my workin console mode ( run level 3), and some work in the gnome desktop. I am not a gamer of any sort, and do not plan on watching many (if any dvd's) on it. I just need basic video capabilities, and don't want ot spend a ton of money. Any suggestions appreciated. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Catch-22 : wide monitor -- Surprise!
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 11:19:45AM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Beartooth wrote: > > > Btw, I don't really suppose this new change in anaconda is an act > >of purposeful obscurantism -- but the result is not significantly > >different. If the developers were deliberately trying to drive non- > >technoid users away, they could hardly do it more effectively than by > >this and several other changes (such as package kit and network manager). > > > I have to agree, FC10 is absolutely the worst install available. I have it > on five machines now, and in every case I had to do video tricks to get a > working display. I think the people who put in that animated boot display > took control, and were more concerned with having people oh and ah over the > animation that have a working default video mode like 800x600, and have the > graphics *fit* instead of depending on screen scrolling, which also doesn't > work on several machines I tried, even if you know it's there. > > I have still been giving out FC9 DVDs to people, FC10 is just geek material > as far as I'm concerned. FC10 is great software, but a hideous install. Bill, I'm not disputing your experience. I've only installed F10 on a single machine, my eeepc 901, but on that machine it "just works". As there is a LOT of variance from one machine to the next, I don't doubt that there are those where it is less smooth than my experience. -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - The Lord detests the way of the wicked but he loves those who pursue righteousness. - Proverbs 15:9 (niv) - pgpIMMxJ5pJxk.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ssh-agent startup
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 4:41 AM, Guillaume wrote: > Hi, > For now, when I want to use ssh-agent, i have to open a shell, and then use > this command 'ssh-agent /bin/bash' to be able to use the ssh-agent > fonctionnality. > > I would like to know if there is a tip to start ssh-agent at user login. > Like editing /etc/passwd an adding in the "shell field" /usr/bin/ssh-agent > /bin/bash like that : > ***/etc/passwd*** > user:x:500:500::/home/user:/usr/bin/ssh-agent /bin/bash > > And by the way avoiding multi nested bash execution, avoid user to type this > command or multiple edit/modify of .bashrc of all my users. > > thanks for your help. > > -- > Guillaume Boot the system in Run Level 3. After you login in text mode run $ ssh-agent `exec startx` The dollar sign is the user prompt. Use backticks. This makes the agent available to the entire user environment. Load your keys and you're good to go. ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wolfenstein on x86_64
2008/12/29 Louis E Garcia II : > On Sun, 2008-12-28 at 23:54 -0500, Louis E Garcia II wrote: >> On Sun, 2008-12-28 at 19:22 -0500, Louis E Garcia II wrote: >> > I would like to play this game on my new x86_64 box. Since this is a >> > 32bit game I would assume I would need mesa i386 packages. Any this else >> > I should be aware of? >> > >> > -Thanks >> >> I got the game running except for sound, I don't hear anything. I >> believe wolfenstein uses oss and /dev/dsp is present. Is there a i386 >> compat package for oss? >> >> -Thanks > > I get up to this point. I think some other program has a lock on this > device. Since esd is not installed I'm thinking pulseaudio? Should > killing pulseaudio release /dev/dsp? > > Startup messages from Wolf: > > --- sound initialization --- > /dev/dsp: Invalid argument > Could not open /dev/dsp > Usually these games don't interact well with pulseaudio. For Quake Wars to make it work I had to use this, $ /path/to/game/binary +set s_alsa_pcm plughw:0 +set s_numberOfSpeakers2 Maybe you can try something similar. The game forums should be able to help you better in this. Good luck. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: To turn Plymouth off?
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 11:28:19 -0700, don fisher wrote: > How can one disable Plymouth? I prefer to see the boot sequence. I > recently had a "blue screen of death" for about 10 minutes while my > disks were doing a mount limit forced fsck. Beauty is in the eye of the > beholder:-) You can't turn it off. However you can change things so that you see console output during the boot. Remove 'quiet' and 'rhgb' from the kernel entries in /boot/grub/grub.conf . > Something also changed between F9 and F10 with upstart. In F9 I was able > to comment out the lines in /etc/event.d/prefdm associated with: > > exec /etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon > > and the system would drop through to a text interface. Now it hangs. Are you sure? Did you try other consoles besides vt1? Between F9 and F10 the X console moved to vt1 from vt7. If X isn't running but you are in run level 5, I don't think vt1 will be usable. > What is the best way to avoid using prefdm? I do not mind typing startx. Maybe you want to boot in run level 3? If so you can add '3' to the kernel paramters while you are editing grub.conf. It isn't clear what you are really trying to do though, so it may be that switching to run level 3 is not the correct answer. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wolfenstein on x86_64
2008/12/29 Marcelo Magno T. Sales > > Are you guys talking about Return to Castle Wolfenstein? I have the > original CD with the Windows binary here. Where do I get the Linux > binaries? Can I run it with the data files from the Windows CD? For every game published by id Software or Activision, you can download the Linux installer from the Internet without extra cost. It uses the media files from the windows CD/DVD while installing the game. I haven't looked through the page, but this looks like it. http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/wolf/ > []'s > Marcelo hth -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wolfenstein on x86_64
On Sun, 2008-12-28 at 23:54 -0500, Louis E Garcia II wrote: > On Sun, 2008-12-28 at 19:22 -0500, Louis E Garcia II wrote: > > I would like to play this game on my new x86_64 box. Since this is a > > 32bit game I would assume I would need mesa i386 packages. Any this else > > I should be aware of? > > > > -Thanks > > I got the game running except for sound, I don't hear anything. I > believe wolfenstein uses oss and /dev/dsp is present. Is there a i386 > compat package for oss? > > -Thanks I get up to this point. I think some other program has a lock on this device. Since esd is not installed I'm thinking pulseaudio? Should killing pulseaudio release /dev/dsp? Startup messages from Wolf: --- sound initialization --- /dev/dsp: Invalid argument Could not open /dev/dsp -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
help! can't login
Hi all, I have fedora 10 installed on my gateway desktop. It has been running fine for several weeks. Over the weekend, I had ot reboot the system, and when the grub boot menu appears, the system just locks up. I have no keyboard control, and cannot get the system to proceed at all. There is only one entry in my menu.lst file, which is the same entry that has been there for a month now. Any suggestions would be appreciated. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Catch-22 : curiouser and curiouser -- but better
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:25:26 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > One answer, the PAE kernel is used for 32 bit operation with 4GB or more > of ram. Lets you see the whole memory. Well, I looked at both the system-monitor and lshw-gui -- and got very different answers. One tells me I have 2.8 GB of (unspecified) "memory," while the other tells me 4 GB of "system memory," with two entries for RAM, neither of which says (in a form I can read, at least) how much. One just says 32; the other gives "widths" of 64 for the cpu, and 32 for each of its RAMs. My guess is that I might as well remove the PAE -- if I could, without initiating yet another catastrophe; I did big damage a few years by removing kernels wrong somehow. Probably better to let well enough alone -- especially if never using either eventually gets them expired >"We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from > the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot If only more people would realize that! (I also like the version that says something like "Never attribute to malevolence what can be explained by mere stupidity" -- and Schiller's "Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens." (In Asimov's translation, "Against stupidity the Gods themselves contend in vain.")) -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 2.00, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2, Epiphany 2, Opera 9, Firefox 2 & 3 Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
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FC10/KDE What is the best Webcam Video Recorder for Fedora. I installed Cheese and recorded Video .ogv file but it is a still video ,no movement. I used the Dragon Video Player to play video.ogv file but no movement a fix photo (yes, I was recording in Video). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: To turn Plymouth off?
Thanks. When I read the pointer from the release notes: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterStartup it said that "we are getting rid of RHGB". Thus I had assumed that removing the rhgb option from grub.conf would not be permanent. I will do it as you suggested. don Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: Em Seg 29 Dez 2008, don fisher escreveu: How can one disable Plymouth? I prefer to see the boot sequence. I recently had a "blue screen of death" for about 10 minutes while my disks were doing a mount limit forced fsck. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder:-) Something also changed between F9 and F10 with upstart. In F9 I was able to comment out the lines in /etc/event.d/prefdm associated with: exec /etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon and the system would drop through to a text interface. Now it hangs. What is the best way to avoid using prefdm? I do not mind typing startx. You can press ESC while the computer is booting or, if you want to disable it permanently, edit the line that loads the kernel in /boot/grub/grub.conf and remove the option rhgb from it. []'s Marcelo -- - |Don Fisher h...@comcast.net| |865 W. Cresta Loma Dr. VOICE: (520)888-7613| |Tucson, AZ. 85704-3705 | - -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wolfenstein on x86_64
Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: Em Seg 29 Dez 2008, Stephen Croll escreveu: Louis E Garcia II wrote: I got the game running except for sound, I don't hear anything. I believe wolfenstein uses oss and /dev/dsp is present. Is there a i386 compat package for oss? -Thanks I don't know if this info is current, but on an F7 x86_64 box, I followed the instructions on this page to get sound working: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Quake_3#Sound Specifically, I did: echo "wolfsp.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss echo "wolfsp.x86 0 0 disable" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss echo "wolf.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss echo "wolf.x86 0 0 disable" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss Are you guys talking about Return to Castle Wolfenstein? I have the original CD with the Windows binary here. Where do I get the Linux binaries? Can I run it with the data files from the Windows CD? []'s Marcelo http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/wolf/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: To turn Plymouth off?
Em Seg 29 Dez 2008, don fisher escreveu: > How can one disable Plymouth? I prefer to see the boot sequence. I > recently had a "blue screen of death" for about 10 minutes while my > disks were doing a mount limit forced fsck. Beauty is in the eye of > the beholder:-) > > Something also changed between F9 and F10 with upstart. In F9 I was > able to comment out the lines in /etc/event.d/prefdm associated with: > > exec /etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon > > and the system would drop through to a text interface. Now it hangs. > What is the best way to avoid using prefdm? I do not mind typing > startx. You can press ESC while the computer is booting or, if you want to disable it permanently, edit the line that loads the kernel in /boot/grub/grub.conf and remove the option rhgb from it. []'s Marcelo -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: To turn Plymouth off?
Original Message Subject: To turn Plymouth off? From: don fisher To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: 12/29/2008 12:28 PM How can one disable Plymouth? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/BetterStartup#User_Documentation Also, pressing your ESC (Escape) key will display init text instead of the graphical progress bar. This is also a very high-traffic question on this list. Please search. and the system would drop through to a text interface. Now it hangs. What is the best way to avoid using prefdm? Perhaps reading the prefdm script would give you some pointers. Looks like you will /need/ something like prefdm to kill plymouth. "startx" by itself won't cut it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
To turn Plymouth off?
How can one disable Plymouth? I prefer to see the boot sequence. I recently had a "blue screen of death" for about 10 minutes while my disks were doing a mount limit forced fsck. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder:-) Something also changed between F9 and F10 with upstart. In F9 I was able to comment out the lines in /etc/event.d/prefdm associated with: exec /etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon and the system would drop through to a text interface. Now it hangs. What is the best way to avoid using prefdm? I do not mind typing startx. don -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
fedora 10 can't get past boot menu
Hello, I have had fedora 10 running fine for several weeks. Over the weekend, I noticed that there was an error message displayed on the console something about a general protection error. Everything was locked up, so I performed a hard reboot of the system. Now The system gets to the grub boot menu, but at that point, I can't do anything. The keyboard does not respond at all. The system is configured to boot to level 3 (console) because I am a blind user and prefer to use command-line as much as possible. System configuration: Gateway 7200X 4 gb ram 250 gb harddrive ati radeon 9200 video card usb keyboard marvel gigabit network controller. I would prefer not ot have to re-install if possible, but so far I have no way to get logged into the system. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: VMware Server 2.0, selinux, and F10
Christopher A. Williams a écrit : > According to our testing (a friend of mine who also frequents this list > was here too), the current version of VMware Server DOES NOT RUN on F10 > (32-bit) unless selinux is DISABLED. Permissive mode doesn't cut it - it > still causes VMware Server to not run. Same diagnostic for me. I've run VMware server 1.0.x without any issue with SElinux in permissive mode (until F9). With VMWare server 2.0 SElinux must be disabled :( (same issue under F9 and F10) It seems there is no communication between client and server (even if both on same machine). And "service vmware stop" hangs... Really annoying (I need Selinux) I don't understand how "permissive" mode can block something... We need a Selinux gourou.. ++ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wolfenstein on x86_64
Em Seg 29 Dez 2008, Stephen Croll escreveu: > Louis E Garcia II wrote: > > I got the game running except for sound, I don't hear anything. I > > believe wolfenstein uses oss and /dev/dsp is present. Is there a > > i386 compat package for oss? > > > > -Thanks > > I don't know if this info is current, but on an F7 x86_64 box, I > followed the instructions on this page to get sound working: > > http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Quake_3#Sound > > Specifically, I did: > > echo "wolfsp.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss > echo "wolfsp.x86 0 0 disable" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss > echo "wolf.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss > echo "wolf.x86 0 0 disable" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss Are you guys talking about Return to Castle Wolfenstein? I have the original CD with the Windows binary here. Where do I get the Linux binaries? Can I run it with the data files from the Windows CD? []'s Marcelo -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: VMware Server 2.0, selinux, and F10
Original Message Subject: VMware Server 2.0, selinux, and F10 From: Christopher A. Williams To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: 12/29/2008 10:09 AM Yes. I can confirm your results. I've had SELinux disabled for a few years and just turned it on. Same results with the login page. VMWare Server 2 was working fine with SELinux set to Disabled. 32-bit machine. non-PAE kernel. Note: I've dumped VMWare for VirtualBox now that 2.1.0 has network bridging alleviated. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora on Asus M3N78-EM, anyone?
On Mon, December 29, 2008 6:25 pm, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Original Message > > I cannot guarantee a working box, but a simple google search for "linux > 8300 chipset" resulted[1] in some folks claiming success with similar > chipsets on ASUS boards. > > [1] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=125246 thanks for the link but hmmm... those in that page don't look like "success" to me. "GeForce 8200 motherboard. They seem problematic under linux" "GeForce 9300,... other negative issues are 2D related performance problems with the current stable Nvidia driver (there's a thread about this problem) even when applying all the quick fixes" "gygabyte mobo.. drivers 180.16 and instability problem + resolution not yet correct/optimal" I can live without 5.1 or other hi-fi sound, but I do need stable, perfect 2D graphics. If this is the status, this chipset doesn't look good for me. Further info and experiences are welcome, of course. Marco -- Help *everybody* love Free Standards and Software: http://digifreedom.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: HUP doesn't send to processes when logout
On 12/29/2008 10:05 AM, 平天韩 wrote:
hi,
It seems that when I logout from the console, the background process
doesn't get HUP signal:
{ trap "echo Ignore HUP >>/tmp/trap.out" 1; while sleep 3;do echo
hello >>/tmp/hello.txt;done; }&
And it seems it will become a daemon and run forever until rebooting.
Is this correct? Why it didn't get HUP signal?
Thanks!
Are you running this from a terminal window?
Are you possibly setting nohup in your environment.
Are you typing the above commands directly? What happens if you place
these into a script and run the script in the background?
There are a number of things that can cause a shell script to ignore the
HUP signal. I tested this as a script on an Ubuntu laptop, and it
behaved the same as yours:
The process remained. So the issue is not that exiting the parent
process (GNOME Term) or logging out of GNOME fails to issue a HUP, it is
that the process itself ignores the HUP signal since I sent a "kill -HUP
" to the process.
If you simply send the HUP signal, you will see that "Ignore HUP" will
appear in /tmp/trap.out".
The signal(1) command is probably the culprit, though the man pages are
vague.
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Re: VMware Server 2.0, selinux, and F10
On Monday 29 December 2008 11:09:48 Christopher A. Williams wrote: > Thus, in our testing of this, it is clear there are multiple issues with > VMware Server and selinux. One of the issues is that a specific module > requires text relocation, which is easily solved. The other issue is > going to be a little more difficult to troubleshoot, but clearly there > is something that conflicts between selinux and one of the new VMware > Server services, and the only way to get around it at this point is to > disable selinux. Thanks for this report, Christopher. I can't comment because I'm still not running Ver 2, but my issue with your previous posts on this question is addressed by this. Hopefully, Dan Walsh will appear before you lose access to the system and can try to help figure things out - he's always been extremely helpful to me when he's dealt with issues I've had. -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora on Asus M3N78-EM, anyone?
Original Message Subject: Re: Fedora on Asus M3N78-EM, anyone? From: M. Fioretti To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: 12/29/2008 11:06 AM I know, the motherboard which just broke used the same drivers, but with livna and then rpmfusion could use them without any problem. So it would be OK for me, as long as it "just works" with yum. So the question remains: is all the HW on this motherboard fully usable (even if this implies proprietary drivers) with Fedora, without recompiling everything? I cannot guarantee a working box, but a simple google search for "linux 8300 chipset" resulted[1] in some folks claiming success with similar chipsets on ASUS boards. [1] http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=125246 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora on Asus M3N78-EM, anyone?
On Mon, December 29, 2008 6:11 pm, Kevin Kofler wrote: > M. Fioretti wrote: >>the best solution *may* be the ASUS M3N78-EM, which has an on-board nVidia geforce >> 8300 chipset. > > Well, as all NVidia GPUs, that chip requires proprietary drivers for 3D > acceleration. I know, the motherboard which just broke used the same drivers, but with livna and then rpmfusion could use them without any problem. So it would be OK for me, as long as it "just works" with yum. So the question remains: is all the HW on this motherboard fully usable (even if this implies proprietary drivers) with Fedora, without recompiling everything? Thanks, Marco -- Help *everybody* love Free Standards and Software: http://digifreedom.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ipod, what Fedora App. will sync with.
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Amarok, banshee, gtkpod, and rhythmbox are just a few of the apps that > should work well for managing your iPod. > Amarok 2 no longer works with media players, including ipods. This is supposed to be fixed some time down the road. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora on Asus M3N78-EM, anyone?
M. Fioretti wrote: > my motherboard just died, so I'm shopping for an urgent replacement which > should be (of course) 100% Fedora compatible. Right now, the best solution > (*) *may* be the ASUS M3N78-EM, which has an on-board nVidia geforce 8300 > chipset. Well, as all NVidia GPUs, that chip requires proprietary drivers for 3D acceleration. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Compiling Programs for F10
On Mon, 2008-12-29 at 18:21 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Rick Bilonick wrote: > > I'm trying to compile v4l-dvb for Fedora 10. Besides gcc, make, and > > kernel headers, what needs to be installed? I've compiled this for > > Fedora 8 and Ubuntu 8.10 without any problems. But I'm getting errors > > when I try to compile for F10. > > > > > I get the feeling if you post the errors you are getting that someone > will be able to tell you what devel package you are missing. I did that some time ago but did not receive any responses. I'll have to try again. Rick B. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Unable to login after latest FC10 updates (i386 on Dell GX270)
Al Dunsmuir wrote: Waleed, on Friday, December 26, 2008, 2:36:39 PM, you wrote: Try reinstall the driver for your ATI. Then change the driver name in xorg.conf file from VESA to ATI < driver name. After that switch to level 5 via init 5 command. --- Yours, Waleed Harbi The whole point is that for both the Intel and ATI device-specific drivers, the latest X-org is badly broken for many folks. The generic VESA works, so the problem is probably triggered when the device-specific drivers run acceleration or 3D-specific functions. Once the bugs are fixed in the device-specific drives, I will certainly be trying them out.. but right now I need the other units to be fully functional. Al I tried now with the latest x11 ati driver update and it works again with the radeon driver. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Catch-22 : curiouser and curiouser -- but better
Beartooth wrote: I was wrong again : there are F10 options in grub.conf after all; I noticed them only on the stage 2 screen, but they're in the config file, too, all right. They're *after* the F9 choices! Three of them : two Fedora-PAE, and one Fedora-base. (What *are* these things?? At the moment I'm in the base -- and uname -a confirms that it's F10.) And XP still boots. MAY IT REMAIN SO -- and many, many thanks for all the help! One answer, the PAE kernel is used for 32 bit operation with 4GB or more of ram. Lets you see the whole memory. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Catch-22 : wide monitor -- Surprise!
Beartooth wrote: Btw, I don't really suppose this new change in anaconda is an act of purposeful obscurantism -- but the result is not significantly different. If the developers were deliberately trying to drive non- technoid users away, they could hardly do it more effectively than by this and several other changes (such as package kit and network manager). I have to agree, FC10 is absolutely the worst install available. I have it on five machines now, and in every case I had to do video tricks to get a working display. I think the people who put in that animated boot display took control, and were more concerned with having people oh and ah over the animation that have a working default video mode like 800x600, and have the graphics *fit* instead of depending on screen scrolling, which also doesn't work on several machines I tried, even if you know it's there. I have still been giving out FC9 DVDs to people, FC10 is just geek material as far as I'm concerned. FC10 is great software, but a hideous install. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Catch-22 : wide monitor
Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Fri, 2008-12-26 at 18:22 -0500, Christopher K. Johnson wrote: ... "linux vga=792" or some other vesa mode you like for your hardware. I've often wondered: where are these magic numbers documented, or how can they be decoded to figure out what to use with, say, a 1280x800 or 1280x1024 or other resolution? Kernel source, Documentation directory. I don't remember the file, but there's a pointer to it in the kernel-parameters.txt file, or you can just use "vga=ask" and select something usable. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
VMware Server 2.0, selinux, and F10
I had promised to do this and post my results a week ago and got thoroughly tied up over the holidays - sorry about that. It was a good Christmas for us though! :) So - I did get around to loading up a server with the latest version of F10 (32-bit in this case) to run the 32-bit version of VMware Server 2.0 (build 122956) to try and answer the burning question: Does selinux need to be disabled for VMware Server to run properly on F10? I know the inpatient out there can't wait to read the whole post, so here's the answer: Yes. According to our testing (a friend of mine who also frequents this list was here too), the current version of VMware Server DOES NOT RUN on F10 (32-bit) unless selinux is DISABLED. Permissive mode doesn't cut it - it still causes VMware Server to not run. Here are the details: Server: "Whitebox" Supermicro 1U chassis, dual 2.4GHz Pentium Xeon processors, 4GB RAM, Dual Gig-E NICs, dual 250GB IDE drives OS: F10 32-bit, with all patches as of 12-28-08 Kernel: 2.6.27.9-159.fc10 (PAE version - required to see the full 4GB) We loaded a fresh copy F10 with all of the required development tools and supporting stuff VMware Server needs to compile, and left selinux in its default (enforcing) mode and targeted policy. The system was intentionally updated with all of the latest available patches. After rebooting (kernel update that included a switch to the PAE kernel), we then installed VMware Server from the RPM via Package Kit. The initial RPM install went as expected with no errors or issues beyond the warning that the RPM is not signed (Request to VMware: Please, PLEASE make sure that you always sign your RPMs!). Next up was to configure the system. We fired up a terminal window, switched user to root, and then launched vmware-config.pl as normal. The script properly found everything it needed, set up the virtual networks, and compiled all of the modules against the PAE kernel with no errors at all. All of the services reported in as having started successfully when the script exited, which was when the trouble started. We immediately picked up an selinux error saying that one of the modules required the ability to use text relocation. No big deal here, which is why I don't remember off hand which module committed the offense. I'll go back and pull it up next chance - I'm on a different system right now. The selinux troubleshooter gave us the required command to address this issue, so we fixed the problem and off we went. ...Or so we thought. It seems that something else in selinux is interfering with a new VMware Server 2.0 service called VirtualMachines. I'm not sure what the problem is, how it happens, or why. What happens is that you can launch Firefox to talk to VMware server (http://localhost:8222 in this case) and get the VMware Server login page. However, from there you are unable to login. The system times out with a message basically saying that communication with the back-end server processes has been lost. Further checking (service vmware status) shows that several VMware Server services are actually NOT running. Upon trying to restart the vmware services (service vmware restart), we see that the VirtualMachines service has failed. There are no errors I can see, and nothing in dmesg out of the ordinary. Next, we placed selinux into permissive mode to see if anything might pop up or change, and then rebooted the system. We saw exactly the same behavior from VMware Server as before when selinux was in enforcing mode. Finally, we disabled selinux altogether and rebooted once more. This time, VMware Server came up and ran flawlessly. In fact, it was impressively fast given the age of the hardware. Just for grins, we then completely erased VMware Server, rebooted, and double-checked to make sure everything about it was completely gone from the system. We then re-installed it using the exact same procedure as before. VMware Server installed and ran flawlessly. In fact, just to be sure again, we rebooted the server one more time. Again VMware Server came up and ran without issues. Thus, in our testing of this, it is clear there are multiple issues with VMware Server and selinux. One of the issues is that a specific module requires text relocation, which is easily solved. The other issue is going to be a little more difficult to troubleshoot, but clearly there is something that conflicts between selinux and one of the new VMware Server services, and the only way to get around it at this point is to disable selinux. I'll have the system handy for the next day or so to do some additional testing, but then I have to put it back into production. Let me know what specifics I should look for next to find the source of the problem. Cheers, Chris -- == By all means marry; If you get a good wife, you'll be happy. If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher. --Socrates -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: h
Re: screen settings
charles zeitler wrote: when i click on "system settings-> screen" my display goes black & my computer locks up. any suggestions? When you start, edit the kernel config to define the vga mode. A good safe one is "vga=0x318" for 1024x768, and if that helps "vga=ask" to try other settings if your hardware supports them. When you find what you want, you can make it permanent in /boot/grub/grub.conf for future use. Note that you will probably get the vesafb as you frame buffer, there is a module called radeonfb but I haven't seen it used. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RAID5 gets a bad rap
Philip A. Prindeville wrote: I was going back over the archives and saw a lot of people complaining about how slow RAID5 was, and did some quick research into this. Yes, it's true that it can be slowed down if you're rewriting fragmentary data in place, since this takes a read-modify-write operation. But that's true of most filesystems. If you're *not* a database weenie, and you're doing usual manly things with your filesystem (like lots of compiles, for instance), you're typically not going to be modifying files in place at all. You're going to either be writing out new files, or else opening existing files for writing, doing a truncate(fd, (off_t) 0) on them, and then writing them out, etc. Or else you're going to be opening lots and lots of files for reading... Both of which RAID5 does as well as the next thing (which would be RAID0). Why? Because if you're writing out files, you don't need to read-modify-write, you can just write (and write the stripe parity data at the same time). "Ok, sure, you say, but what about the 16K (or whatever) stripe size versus writing data out in smaller chunks?" Yes? What about it? You might be writing blocks out via stdio buffering in 4K chunks or whatever, but unless you're doing a sync() after every single write (buffer flush), the filesystem (ext3 or whatever) is free to accumulate consecutive blocks into handy (read: more efficient) chunks (such as multiples of the stripe size) and write them out all at once... again eliminating the need to do a read-modify-write (since you only need to do a read-modify-write if you're writing incomplete blocks). So is it just the database-heads that are maligning RAID5, or are there other performance issues I don't know about? You should really read the linux-raid mailing list for a while and look at the benchmarking done and reported there by many people who have been doing this for a while. Clearly there are many performance issues you don't know about. Because my empirical experience has always been that when writing large files, RAID5 performs on par with RAID0. Based on benchmarks done by many people your results don't match ours. RAID5 write is slow because of the way it's done in the md code, and unless you are testing on a minimal size array (2-3 drives) this should be obvious. Both RAID0 and RAID10 outperform significantly. Ditto with reading lots of files. Sustained read should be N-1 times the speed of a raw disk. The advantage of RAID5 is that it's the cheapest way (in disk count) to have redundancy. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora on Asus M3N78-EM, anyone?
Greetings, my motherboard just died, so I'm shopping for an urgent replacement which should be (of course) 100% Fedora compatible. Right now, the best solution (*) *may* be the ASUS M3N78-EM, which has an on-board nVidia geforce 8300 chipset. I have already searched with google, of course, but honnestly haven't found (or recognized, at least) enough information to understand if all the hw of this motherboard will work without problems with F9 or F10 x86_64 and if/what special tweaking would be needed to make it work: while I'd really, really like to not recompile kernel or drivers unless I'm forced to do it, I have no problem to mess with config files and such, as long as I know from the start that the hw is Linux-compatible. So, what do you say? Would this be a good choice for a Fedora box? Any feedback is welcome! TIA, Marco (*) as in "the cheapest card which is available at the corner store, since I MUST restore that PC asap to work on it; is physically compatible with the CPU and case I already have; has firewire and all the other I/Os I need" -- Help *everybody* love Free Standards and Software: http://digifreedom.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
HUP doesn't send to processes when logout
hi,
It seems that when I logout from the console, the background process
doesn't get HUP signal:
{ trap "echo Ignore HUP >>/tmp/trap.out" 1; while sleep 3;do echo
hello >>/tmp/hello.txt;done; }&
And it seems it will become a daemon and run forever until rebooting.
Is this correct? Why it didn't get HUP signal?
Thanks!
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Re: F9. KDE. Lost restart, and shutdown buttons after latest update
On Monday 29 December 2008 02:06, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Nigel Henry wrote: > > The latest updates as of 20081216 > > That's 2 weeks out of date. Please update again. > > In particular, there is a fixed (reverted) dbus (1:1.2.4-2.fc9) which fixes > your issue (so at the very least do a "yum update dbus"). This issue is > caused by a dbus update, not a KDE update, KDE was just one of the apps hit > by the D-Bus change, which got reverted because of the breakage it caused. > > Kevin Kofler Just to confirm that I did the updates last night, and the 3 options when pressing leave are now displayed again. My history file shows, dbus, dbus-libs, and dbus-x11 reverted from 1.2.8-1.fc9 to 1.2.4-2.fc9. Thanks to you Kevin, and Rex, and of course Anne, for your help. Nigel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
jackd problem (probably)
I'm trying to use rakarrack, which uses jackd, in F7 (yes, I know, and yes, I will upgrade it real soon now). I first used the onboard sound (intel-hda) and it worked, except that it gave terrible noises. On an older (F5) machine with a standalone sound card, there was no such problem, so I put that soundcard in the F7 box. (I disabled the onboard audio to make life simpler.) It does work for non-jackd applications, but rakarrack doesn't even seem to get any signal, as indicated by the meters. It's not a mixer problem, because the guitar is clearly audible, it's just as if rakarrack were switched off (except that it produces some background noise). Any idea how to debug this? Andras -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
PDF files in Firefox 3.0.5 in F10?
For a long time I have set my firefox so that when clicking on a link to a pdf file in Firefox it will open the file in acroread outside of the browser on the desktop. I noticed that in F10 with a fully updated system, that despite the correct behaviour being set in Edit->Preferences->Applications that Firefox now only allows the option to download the pdf file! This is in the Gnome desktop and does exactly the same on two different machines running the same system (and SElinux is enabled) Does anyone know if this is a bug or some weird intended behaviour in Forefox 3.0.5 ? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/PDF-files-in-Firefox-3.0.5-in-F10--tp21201669p21201669.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Compiling Programs for F10
Rick Bilonick wrote: > I'm trying to compile v4l-dvb for Fedora 10. Besides gcc, make, and > kernel headers, what needs to be installed? I've compiled this for > Fedora 8 and Ubuntu 8.10 without any problems. But I'm getting errors > when I try to compile for F10. > > I get the feeling if you post the errors you are getting that someone will be able to tell you what devel package you are missing. -- Nearly every complex solution to a programming problem that I have looked at carefully has turned out to be wrong. -- Brent Welch mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Compiling Programs for F10
I'm trying to compile v4l-dvb for Fedora 10. Besides gcc, make, and kernel headers, what needs to be installed? I've compiled this for Fedora 8 and Ubuntu 8.10 without any problems. But I'm getting errors when I try to compile for F10. Rick B. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
