Re: Echo Monthly News Issue 4-5, November - December 2008

2009-01-06 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 23:15 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote:
 Hi,
 
 We've just published latest Echo Monthly News Issue [1]. Due too lack of
 enough content, it is joint of November's and December's happenings. The
 topics are:
 
 * Echo Perspective
  - Proposed Designs
 
 * Proposed Guideline Changes
  - Bitmap Post-processing in Echo Icons
 
 Regards,
 The Echo Team

Sorry for the second mail, I forgot to actually add the reference.

[1] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/MonthlyNews/Issue4-5



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Echo Monthly News Issue 4-5, November - December 2008

2009-01-06 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi,

We've just published latest Echo Monthly News Issue [1]. Due too lack of
enough content, it is joint of November's and December's happenings. The
topics are:

* Echo Perspective
 - Proposed Designs

* Proposed Guideline Changes
 - Bitmap Post-processing in Echo Icons

Regards,
The Echo Team


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Re: Echo Monthly News Issue 4-5, November - December 2008

2009-01-06 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 23:15 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote:
 Hi,
 
 We've just published latest Echo Monthly News Issue [1]. Due too lack of
 enough content, it is joint of November's and December's happenings. The
 topics are:
 
 * Echo Perspective
  - Proposed Designs
 
 * Proposed Guideline Changes
  - Bitmap Post-processing in Echo Icons
 
 Regards,
 The Echo Team

Sorry for the second mail, I forgot to actually add the reference.

[1] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/MonthlyNews/Issue4-5



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[PATCH] Resolve package build dependencies.

2009-01-06 Thread Bill Nottingham
Since each package we add for build dependencies may add a new source rpm
to our list, this needs to recurse.
---
 src/pypungi/__init__.py |   23 +++
 1 files changed, 23 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/pypungi/__init__.py b/src/pypungi/__init__.py
index 2590775..3271f26 100644
--- a/src/pypungi/__init__.py
+++ b/src/pypungi/__init__.py
@@ -420,6 +420,29 @@ class Pungi(pypungi.PungiBase):
 self.logger.info(Adding source package %s.%s % (srpmpo.name, 
srpmpo.arch))
 self.srpmpolist.append(srpmpo)
 
+def resolvePackageBuildDeps(self):
+Make the package lists self hosting. Requires yum
+   still configured, a list of package objects, and a
+   a list of source rpms.
+for srpm in self.srpmpolist:
+self.ayum.tsInfo.addInstall(srpm)
+deppass = 1
+checked_srpms = []
+while 1:
+self.logger.info(Resolving build dependencies, pass %d % 
(deppass))
+prev = list(self.ayum.tsInfo.getMembers())
+for srpm in self.srpmpolist[len(checked_srpms):]:
+self.getPackageDeps(srpm)
+for txmbr in self.ayum.tsInfo:
+if txmbr.po.arch != 'src' and txmbr.po not in self.polist:
+self.polist.append(txmbr.po)
+# Now that we've resolved deps, refresh the source rpm list
+checked_srpms = list(self.srpmpolist)
+self.getSRPMList()
+deppass = deppass + 1
+if len(prev) == len(self.ayum.tsInfo.getMembers()):
+break
+
 def getDebuginfoList(self):
 Cycle through the list of package objects and find
debuginfo rpms for them.  Requires yum still
-- 
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[PATCH] Wire up a commandline option for selfhosting support.

2009-01-06 Thread Bill Nottingham
---
 src/bin/pungi.py |7 ++-
 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/bin/pungi.py b/src/bin/pungi.py
index 7cc615c..9224713 100755
--- a/src/bin/pungi.py
+++ b/src/bin/pungi.py
@@ -86,13 +86,16 @@ def main():
 mypungi._inityum() # initialize the yum object for things that 
need it
 if opts.do_all or opts.do_gather:
 mypungi.getPackageObjects()
+if not opts.nosource or opts.selfhosting:
+mypungi.getSRPMList()
+if opts.selfhosting:
+mypungi.resolvePackageBuildDeps()
 mypungi.downloadPackages()
 mypungi.makeCompsFile()
 if not opts.nodebuginfo:
 mypungi.getDebuginfoList()
 mypungi.downloadDebuginfo()
 if not opts.nosource:
-mypungi.getSRPMList()
 mypungi.downloadSRPMs()
 
 if opts.do_all or opts.do_createrepo:
@@ -153,6 +156,8 @@ if __name__ == '__main__':
 parser.add_option(--bugurl, dest=bugurl, type=string,
   action=callback, callback=set_config, callback_args=(config, ),
   help='the url for your bug system (defaults to 
http://bugzilla.redhat.com)')
+parser.add_option(--selfhosting, action=store_true, 
dest=selfhosting,
+  help='build a self-hosting tree by following build dependencies 
(optional)')
 parser.add_option(--nosource, action=store_true, dest=nosource,
   help='disable gathering of source packages (optional)')
 parser.add_option(--nodebuginfo, action=store_true, 
dest=nodebuginfo,
-- 
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[PATCH] Operate on source rpm package objects, not a list that is then turned into package objects.

2009-01-06 Thread Bill Nottingham
---
 src/pypungi/__init__.py |   36 +++-
 1 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/pypungi/__init__.py b/src/pypungi/__init__.py
index cc3928f..2590775 100644
--- a/src/pypungi/__init__.py
+++ b/src/pypungi/__init__.py
@@ -133,7 +133,7 @@ class Pungi(pypungi.PungiBase):
 
 self.ksparser = ksparser
 self.polist = []
-self.srpmlist = []
+self.srpmpolist = []
 self.debuginfolist = []
 self.resolved_deps = {} # list the deps we've already resolved, short 
circuit.
 
@@ -396,15 +396,29 @@ class Pungi(pypungi.PungiBase):
 self.polist = final_pkgobjs.keys()
 self.logger.info('Finished gathering package objects.')
 
+def getSRPMPo(self, po):
+Given a package object, get a package object for the
+   corresponding source rpm. Requires yum still configured
+   and a valid package object.
+srpm = po.sourcerpm.split('.src.rpm')[0]
+(sname, sver, srel) = srpm.rsplit('-', 2)
+try:
+srpmpo = self.ayum.pkgSack.searchNevra(name=sname, ver=sver, 
rel=srel, arch='src')[0]
+return srpmpo
+except IndexError:
+print  sys.stderr, Error: Cannot find a source rpm for %s % 
srpm
+sys.exit(1)
+
 def getSRPMList(self):
 Cycle through the list of package objects and
find the sourcerpm for them.  Requires yum still
configured and a list of package objects
  
 for po in self.polist:
-srpm = po.sourcerpm.split('.src.rpm')[0]
-if not srpm in self.srpmlist:
-self.srpmlist.append(srpm)
+srpmpo = self.getSRPMPo(po)
+if not srpmpo in self.srpmpolist:
+self.logger.info(Adding source package %s.%s % (srpmpo.name, 
srpmpo.arch))
+self.srpmpolist.append(srpmpo)
 
 def getDebuginfoList(self):
 Cycle through the list of package objects and find
@@ -528,20 +542,8 @@ class Pungi(pypungi.PungiBase):
 Cycle through the list of srpms and
find the package objects for them, Then download them.
 
-srpmpolist = []
-
-for srpm in self.srpmlist:
-(sname, sver, srel) = srpm.rsplit('-', 2)
-try:
-srpmpo = self.ayum.pkgSack.searchNevra(name=sname, ver=sver, 
rel=srel, arch='src')[0]
-if not srpmpo in srpmpolist:
-srpmpolist.append(srpmpo)
-except IndexError:
-print  sys.stderr, Error: Cannot find a source rpm for %s 
% srpm
-sys.exit(1)
-
 # do the downloads
-self._downloadPackageList(srpmpolist, os.path.join('source', 'SRPMS'))
+self._downloadPackageList(self.srpmpolist, os.path.join('source', 
'SRPMS'))
 
 def downloadDebuginfo(self):
 Cycle through the list of debuginfo rpms and
-- 
1.6.0.6

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Re: Koji feature proposals

2009-01-06 Thread Mike Bonnet
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 21:51 +0100, Oliver Falk wrote:
 Hi Mike!
 
 Mike Bonnet schrieb:
  I've just created tickets for a few Koji features that I've been wanting
  to implement for a while (as well as updated an old one), and I'm
  planning to devote some time to in the near future.  If you have any
  comments on these features feel free to post to the tickets, or talk to
  me at FUDCon this weekend.  Just figured people might want to see the
  direction that Koji is headed.  The future is now! :)
 
 [ ... ]
 
  drop the rpmfiles and rpmdeps tables: 
  https://fedorahosted.org/koji/ticket/124
 
 -1
 Only if you provide the same functionality using another approach :-)

Yes, the plan is to query the information directly from the rpms rather
than from the database.  The content on the rpminfo page in the web UI
should not change at all from the user perspective.

 *I* do use it quite often; Find out which file belongs to which pkg(s).
 
 However, this was quite slow and now doesn't even seem to work in 
 koji.fpo. :-(

Hmmm, it should be.  In what way is it not working?

  noarch subpackage support: https://fedorahosted.org/koji/ticket/125
 
 Duh? We do have already (at least one) packages that build arch-specific 
 and noarch pkgs - kernel or do we use some *hack* in the kernel.spec?

We use a hack in the kernel specfile and in the build system.  The
noarch subpackage support in rpm is much more generic and flexible, and
we need to support it without build system hacks.

 And regarding your point: '... different arches build noarch subpackage 
 with different contents'. Well, then it's definitly not *noarch*, is't 
 it? :-)

True, but it's still possible, and we may need to check for this case
and handle is appropriately (possibly by failing the build).


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Re: Koji feature proposals

2009-01-06 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 OF == Oliver Falk oli...@linux-kernel.at writes:

OF And regarding your point: '... different arches build noarch
OF subpackage with different contents'. Well, then it's definitly not
OF *noarch*, is't it? :-)

It is quite possible for the contents to differ by, say, date, or by
timestamps being included in plain text output.  Why would that render
the output arch-specific?

 - J

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[PATCH] pungi: allow building a self-hosting distribution

2009-01-06 Thread Bill Nottingham
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[PATCH] Remove obsolete code.

2009-01-06 Thread Bill Nottingham
---
 src/pypungi/__init__.py |2 --
 1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/pypungi/__init__.py b/src/pypungi/__init__.py
index 3271f26..bd57bf8 100644
--- a/src/pypungi/__init__.py
+++ b/src/pypungi/__init__.py
@@ -424,8 +424,6 @@ class Pungi(pypungi.PungiBase):
 Make the package lists self hosting. Requires yum
still configured, a list of package objects, and a
a list of source rpms.
-for srpm in self.srpmpolist:
-self.ayum.tsInfo.addInstall(srpm)
 deppass = 1
 checked_srpms = []
 while 1:
-- 
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[PATCH] Add a method that completes the package set with all subpackages of currently used source rpms.

2009-01-06 Thread Bill Nottingham
In other places, this method could be called No Package Left Behind.
---
 src/pypungi/__init__.py |   26 ++
 1 files changed, 26 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/pypungi/__init__.py b/src/pypungi/__init__.py
index 1d2734c..01d7b90 100644
--- a/src/pypungi/__init__.py
+++ b/src/pypungi/__init__.py
@@ -461,6 +461,32 @@ class Pungi(pypungi.PungiBase):
 if len(prev) == len(self.ayum.tsInfo.getMembers()):
 break
 
+def completePackageSet(self):
+Cycle through all package objects, and add any
+   that correspond to a source rpm that we are including.
+   Requires yum still configured and a list of package
+   objects.
+thepass = 1
+while 1:
+prevlen = len(self.srpmpolist)
+self.logger.info(Completing package set, pass %d % (thepass,))
+for srpm in self.srpmpolist[len(self.srpms_fulltree):]:
+for po in self.bin_by_src[srpm]:
+if po not in self.polist:
+self.logger.info(Adding %s.%s to complete package 
set % (po.name, po.arch))
+self.polist.append(po)
+self.getPackageDeps(po)
+for txmbr in self.ayum.tsInfo:
+if txmbr.po.arch != 'src' and txmbr.po not in self.polist:
+self.polist.append(txmbr.po)
+self.srpms_fulltree = list(self.srpmpolist)
+# Now that we've resolved deps, refresh the source rpm list
+self.getSRPMList()
+if len(self.srpmpolist) == prevlen:
+self.logger.info(Completion finished in %d passes % 
(thepass,))
+break
+thepass = thepass + 1
+
 def getDebuginfoList(self):
 Cycle through the list of package objects and find
debuginfo rpms for them.  Requires yum still
-- 
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[PATCH] pungi: Implement building of 'full' trees

2009-01-06 Thread Bill Nottingham

The attached patches implement the building of 'full' trees - these
are trees that contain all subpackages of any source RPMs used in
the tree composition. This can be useful if the distribution you're
building isn't going to have an 'Everything' tree like Fedora has.

As an example, a compose of just 'basesystem' with both this option,
and the selfhosting option, yields over 2600 binary packages.

Patches apply on top of the prior patch series.

Bill

 bin/pungi.py|   18 ++-
 pypungi/__init__.py |   60 +---
 2 files changed, 69 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)

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Re: Koji feature proposals

2009-01-06 Thread Mike Bonnet
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 15:21 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
  OF == Oliver Falk oli...@linux-kernel.at writes:
 
 OF And regarding your point: '... different arches build noarch
 OF subpackage with different contents'. Well, then it's definitly not
 OF *noarch*, is't it? :-)
 
 It is quite possible for the contents to differ by, say, date, or by
 timestamps being included in plain text output.  Why would that render
 the output arch-specific?

I'm not so much worried about that level of difference as I am of say
different file lists from noarch rpms built on different hosts, or maybe
different endianness of data files.  There is some set of post-build
checks we may want to run on these noarch subpackages to ensure they are
in fact noarch, and that their content is sane.  This noarch subpackage
feature is new, and there are things Koji can and probably should be
doing to make sure it's being used correctly.


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Re: Koji feature proposals

2009-01-06 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 MB == Mike Bonnet mi...@redhat.com writes:

MB There is some set of post-build checks we may want to run on these
MB noarch subpackages to ensure they are in fact noarch, and that
MB their content is sane.

I think it would be sufficient to collect all of the noarch packages
generated from the various arch builds, run rpmdiff -t on them, and
fail the build if there is any output.

That's a pretty strict test, but honestly I'd be concerned of any
package that didn't pass it.

 - J

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[Bug 477427] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2009-01-06 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477427


Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed:

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--- Comment #10 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-01-06 
11:09:12 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #9)
 Here's what I found:
 
 ./lang/km_utf8/fonts/default.ttf
 Packaged in khmeros-fonts-base, can be symlinked and required.

But make sure that the  khmeros-fonts packager converted to the new guidelines
first

 ./lang/sm_utf8/fonts/default.ttf
 ./lang/to_utf8/fonts/default.ttf
 Arial Narrow, not OK.  I can modify the source to strip this out, and then
 symlink to something, what would be a good replacement? 
 I'll then notify upstream.

No idea, maybe ask Jens Petersen?

 ./lib/default.ttf - FreeSans - Copyleft, can be subpackaged, but it might be
 packaged already, what's a good way to check?

Is in the freefonts package, but it's better to require a dejavu variant when
an app just wants a generic font without specific style needs.

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[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11

2009-01-06 Thread bugzilla
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Bug 477044 depends on bug 477370, which changed state.

Bug 477370 Summary: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477370

   What|Old Value   |New Value

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
 Resolution||RAWHIDE



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[Bug 477370] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2009-01-06 Thread bugzilla
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 Resolution||RAWHIDE




--- Comment #4 from Jochen Schmitt joc...@herr-schmitt.de  2009-01-06 
14:30:13 EDT ---
Should be fixed on blender-2.49a-9.

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[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11

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Bug 477044 depends on bug 477370, which changed state.

Bug 477370 Summary: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477370

   What|Old Value   |New Value

 Status|CLOSED  |ASSIGNED
 Resolution|RAWHIDE |



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[Bug 477370] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2009-01-06 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #5 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-01-06 
15:14:40 EDT ---
Actually, opening the blender ttf in the gnome font previewer (or in fontforge
if you prefer) shows it is a very old copy of Dejavu Sans (2.8, rawhide is at
2.28), so it's much better to add a dep on dejavu-fonts-sans and symlink the
font in blender from here

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[Bug 476427] [te_IN] - Consonant+Virama+Consonant+Virama+space renders the second virama as a separate glyph in lohit-telugu font

2009-01-06 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #3 from Padmanabhan V. K. bugzillas+padremovethi...@gmail.com  
2009-01-06 17:39:37 EDT ---
Bug 318071 deals with the same problem, but for Lohit Kannada. That bug was
closed with the comment that a fix is not possible in the current opentype
framework.

However the Pothana2000 font from http://www.kavya-nandanam.com/dload.htm is
able to render these combinations correctly.

I hope Lohit Telugu and Lohit Kannada could be fixed to handle these
combinations just like Pothana2000.

BTW the gnome bug above says the problem isn't seen in Kannada, which isn't
true. Just that the problem is less noticeable when compared to Telugu (since
in Kannada the virama connects to the right of the first consonant anyway,
unlike in Telugu where it connects to the top).

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[Bug 449356] Refactor gfxPangoFontGroup for user fonts

2009-01-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bug 449356 depends on bug 461087, which changed state.

Bug 461087 Summary: provide templates for automatically-releasing handles to 
foreign resources
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461087

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[Bug 478662] Review Request: dustin-dustismo-fonts - font with serif and sans-serif versions

2009-01-06 Thread bugzilla
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Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
Summary|Review Request: |Review Request:
   |dustismo-fonts - font with  |dustin-dustismo-fonts -
   |serif and sans-serif|font with serif and
   |versions|sans-serif versions
   Flag|fedora-cvs? |fedora-cvs+




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cvs done.

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[Bug 477479] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2009-01-06 Thread bugzilla
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Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com changed:

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will work on this.

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[Bug 479100] New: [kn_IN] Conjuct combination of U0C9D with U0CCA/U0CCB is rendering wrongly

2009-01-06 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: [kn_IN] Conjuct combination of U0C9D with U0CCA/U0CCB is rendering 
wrongly

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=479100

   Summary: [kn_IN] Conjuct combination of U0C9D with U0CCA/U0CCB
is rendering wrongly
   Product: Fedora
   Version: 8
  Platform: All
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: medium
  Priority: low
 Component: lohit-fonts
AssignedTo: rbhal...@redhat.com
ReportedBy: bugzillas+padremovethi...@gmail.com
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Classification: Fedora


+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #233257 +++

Description of problem:
Wrong Conjuct combinations are formed for U0C9D+U0CCA and U0C9D+U0CCB.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
fonts-kannada-2.1.5-3.fc8

How reproducible:
1. Every Time

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Open gnome-character-map.
2. Select U0C9D followed by U0CCA followed by U0C9D followed by U0CCB.

Actual results:
As shown in the attached image

Expected results:

As shown by the following steps:
1. Install http://kannadakasturi.com/font/brhknd.ttf.
2. Open http://kannadakasturi.com/includes/transliterate.asp.
3. Enter the combination JoJO.

Additional info:

1. The fonts from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=56358
also show the glyphs like kannadakasturi.com instead of like Lohit Kannada.
2. This is similar to earlier bugs: bug 231965 and bug 233257.
Hence I assume Lohit Kannada is at fault and not the other fonts.

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[Bug 479100] [kn_IN] Conjuct combination of U0C9D with U0CCA/U0CCB is rendering wrongly

2009-01-06 Thread bugzilla
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Incorrect rendering of U0C9D U0CCA U0C9D U0CCB

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Re: Strange MTU-ish problem

2009-01-06 Thread Maurizio Marini
On Tuesday 06 January 2009, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 06:57:05PM -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
  On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:47:11 +0100
 
  Timothy Murphy wrote:
   Is there a similar option for ping under Fedora?
 
  ping -s sizeyouwant www.google.com

 you must also set a do not fragment flag.



it's a known problem 
http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/index.php?topic=235535.msg1625049

i have appended in sysctl.conf
net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling = 0

not more not less

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Re: F10 OpenOffice default page size

2009-01-06 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 16:38 +0900, Otgonbayar.A wrote:
 On Fedora 10 when I print a document in page size A4 it prints in Letter
 size. Is it only my problem or does someone have same problem?

I used to suffer from that, but not any more.  I can't really recall the
solution.  It's a FAQ, though.  I've read various solutions, over time,
one of which was to modify the page properties of the default template.

This is more of an OpenOffice.org question, than a Fedora one.  You
might want to look through its help, for the version you get with Fedora
10.

I seem to recall that locale *may* be paid attention to, for the
defaults.  e.g. Here in Australia, it's highly unusual to use anything
other than A4 paper, unless you work in legal circles.  So A4 is the
expected default page size for everything on the computer.  Though, for
a very long time, I was always having to reset new documents to use A4
instead of US letter.

On a document by document basis, it's the page format style options that
you play with to set the page size of a document.  Not the printing
preferences.  I don't recall whether setting it once takes care of all
future new documents.

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Re: F10 OpenOffice default page size

2009-01-06 Thread Maurizio Marini
On Tuesday 06 January 2009, Tim wrote:
 This is more of an OpenOffice.org question, than a Fedora one.  
eh eh eh
this is an old issue; they came here even complaining that their small cat 
does not piss any more by the time they installed fedora; any suggestion to 
search small pets newsgroups does not change this habit

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Re: F10 OpenOffice default page size

2009-01-06 Thread Otgonbayar.A

Maurizio Marini wrote:


On Tuesday 06 January 2009, Tim wrote:

 This is more of an OpenOffice.org question, than a Fedora one.

eh eh eh

this is an old issue; they came here even complaining that their small 
cat does not piss any more by the time they installed fedora; any 
suggestion to search small pets newsgroups does not change this habit


m

I have RedHat EL4 workstation too. I installed OO 3.0 by downloading it 
from OO web site  and is printing with no problem.


Probably it is an old problem of OO. But OpenOffice3.0 was installed as 
Fedora 10 distribution from Fedora repositories. Today it is not OO 
problem so it could be said Fedora bundling problem.


Ok, I will try to install Sun's current version.

Thank you.

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ULi SATA/RAID controller (m5287) driver

2009-01-06 Thread Bravismore Mumanyi

Dear All,

I would like to install Fedora 9 on a desktop with the above-quoted 
controller and need help on a site where I can download driver for RAID 
controller.


Thanking you in anticipation.

Regards
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Re: Strange MTU-ish problem

2009-01-06 Thread Timothy Murphy
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

 Under Windows XP Run=cmd I get
 
 ping www.google.com -f -l 1490
 ...
 Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set
 repeated several times
...
 Is there a similar option for ping under Fedora?
 
 You may want to take a look at the ping man page:
 
 The -f and I believe the -s options.

I did man ping.

On my system (standard Fedora-10) ping -s n www.google.com
gives rather strange results (as repeated below).
If n = 1470 then ping does not return.
If n = 1464 it returns as usual.
If n = 1466 or 1468 then I am told the packets are fragmented,
[I did not try these numbers before.]

Adding the -f flag (as root) does not seem to give any more information.

--
[...@mary tmp]$ ping -s 1464 www.google.com
PING www.l.google.com (74.125.39.147) 1464(1492) bytes of data.
64 bytes from fx-in-f147.google.com (74.125.39.147): icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 
(truncated)
64 bytes from fx-in-f147.google.com (74.125.39.147): icmp_seq=2 ttl=242 
(truncated)
^C
...
[...@mary tmp]$ ping -s 1466 www.google.com
PING www.l.google.com (74.125.39.99) 1466(1494) bytes of data.
From homegate.homenet.telecomitalia.it (192.168.1.1) icmp_seq=1 Frag needed 
and DF set (mtu = 1492)
^C
...
[...@mary tmp]$ ping -s 1468 www.google.com
PING www.l.google.com (74.125.39.147) 1468(1496) bytes of data.
From homegate.homenet.telecomitalia.it (192.168.1.1) icmp_seq=1 Frag needed 
and DF set (mtu = 1492)
^C
...
[...@mary tmp]$ ping -s 1470 www.google.com
PING www.l.google.com (74.125.39.99) 1470(1498) bytes of data.
^C
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It seems from my experiment that one can get the information with ping,
but only in a rather bizarre way.

 You can add MTU=1492 to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1.

I did try this on one (very old) laptop
but it did not seem to improve matters.
I'll try it again now, and re-boot
(not sure if I did that before).


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Re: Strange MTU-ish problem

2009-01-06 Thread Paul Flo Williams

Timothy Murphy wrote:


[...@mary tmp]$ ping -s 1466 -c 3 -M do www.google.com
PING www.l.google.com (74.125.39.104) 1466(1494) bytes of data.
From homegate.homenet.telecomitalia.it (192.168.1.1) icmp_seq=1 Frag needed and 
DF set (mtu = 1492)

Incidentally, what exactly does DF set mean?
Is it telling me that DF is set,
or that it should be set (or even, should not be set)?
If the latter, how can I do that?


DF is the Don't Fragment bit in the IP header flags field. It's telling 
you that you set it (with -M do), so it can't fragment the packet.


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Re: Fedora 10 firefox-3.0.5-1.fc10.i386 SOLVED

2009-01-06 Thread Frank Murphy
It turned out that NetworkManager had turned itself back on.
Once disabled and stopped, firefox was back online.

(I'm not anti-NM, just don't need it on this box)

Frank

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Re: Strange MTU-ish problem

2009-01-06 Thread Timothy Murphy
Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:

  Is there a similar option for ping under Fedora?
 
 ping -s sizeyouwant www.google.com
 
 you must also set a do not fragment flag.

I see that adding the option -M do
(which I take it is what you meant)
does indeed give a little more information,
or at least gives the same information more simply:
-
[...@mary tmp]$ ping -s 1464 -c 3 -M do www.google.com
PING www.l.google.com (74.125.39.103) 1464(1492) bytes of data.
64 bytes from fx-in-f103.google.com (74.125.39.103): icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 
(truncated)
64 bytes from fx-in-f103.google.com (74.125.39.103): icmp_seq=2 ttl=242 
(truncated)
64 bytes from fx-in-f103.google.com (74.125.39.103): icmp_seq=3 ttl=242 
(truncated)

--- www.l.google.com ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2083ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 82.018/82.944/84.115/0.934 ms

[...@mary tmp]$ ping -s 1466 -c 3 -M do www.google.com
PING www.l.google.com (74.125.39.104) 1466(1494) bytes of data.
From homegate.homenet.telecomitalia.it (192.168.1.1) icmp_seq=1 Frag needed 
and DF set (mtu = 1492)
From mary.homenet.telecomitalia.it (192.168.1.4) icmp_seq=2 Frag needed and DF 
set (mtu = 1492)
From mary.homenet.telecomitalia.it (192.168.1.4) icmp_seq=2 Frag needed and DF 
set (mtu = 1492)

--- www.l.google.com ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 1016ms
-

Incidentally, what exactly does DF set mean?
Is it telling me that DF is set,
or that it should be set (or even, should not be set)?
If the latter, how can I do that?



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Re: Strange MTU-ish problem

2009-01-06 Thread Timothy Murphy
Paul Flo Williams wrote:

 [...@mary tmp]$ ping -s 1466 -c 3 -M do www.google.com
 PING www.l.google.com (74.125.39.104) 1466(1494) bytes of data.
 From homegate.homenet.telecomitalia.it (192.168.1.1) icmp_seq=1 Frag
 needed and DF set (mtu = 1492)
 
 Incidentally, what exactly does DF set mean?
 Is it telling me that DF is set,
 or that it should be set (or even, should not be set)?
 If the latter, how can I do that?
 
 DF is the Don't Fragment bit in the IP header flags field. It's telling
 you that you set it (with -M do), so it can't fragment the packet.

But I get the DF set response even if I don't use the -M option:
--
[...@mary etc]$ ping -s 1466 www.google.com
PING www.l.google.com (74.125.39.99) 1466(1494) bytes of data.
From homegate.homenet.telecomitalia.it (192.168.1.1) icmp_seq=1 Frag needed 
and DF set (mtu = 1492)
^C
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Re: F10 OpenOffice default page size

2009-01-06 Thread Pavel Lisy
Otgonbayar.A píše v Út 06. 01. 2009 v 16:52 +0900:
  On Fedora 10 when I print a document in page size A4 it prints in Letter
  size. Is it only my problem or does someone have same problem?
 
 sorry, explressed not well.
 
 This happens only when I use Open Office. Other programs print without 
 problem. OpenOffice does not listen even when I set page size to A4. I 
 set default page size in CUPS as A4. But OpenOffice looks somewhere else 
 and it prints in Letter page size.

I had the same problem long time. I have found solution (maybe)

Open OOwriter (empty document)
Run from menu: File-Printer settings
Select in combo-box first printer, then click to properties and set
   proper Paper size
Repeat it for every printer in combo-box, even for Generic Printer

Then quit OOwriter

Now try open existing document and print it. 
It looks that even Printer Size is empty in print dialog (tab
Properties) it uses proper size (I set it to A4) and after first print
it is visible in print dialog too.

Please send me info if it helps you too.

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Re: A reminder of EOL for F8

2009-01-06 Thread Bryn M. Reeves

Chris Snook wrote:

David wrote:

Aaron Konstam wrote:

From last I heard Wednesday, Jan 7 is EOL for F8. So be warned.



In all honesty...  EOL means End Of Line... Which means no more bugfix
updates and no more security patches.

It does *not* mean that fedora 8 will stop working on January 7th, 2009.

;-)



Do the F8 repos disappear on Jan 7th as well?  I'd hate to be the admin 
who doesn't notice until Jan. 8th, and needs some tool that's not 
installed in order to migrate gracefully.


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AFAIK, no (at least, that's not been the case in the past to my 
recollection).


Regards,
Bryn.

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Help -- can't SSH into my box

2009-01-06 Thread John Aldrich
Well, for some strange reason, since installing Fedora 10, I can no longer 
SSH into my box. I've got SSHD running, both on the standard port and on a 
non-standard port. I don't even get a username/password prompt. Just a 
timeout error. Funny thing is I can SCP into the box all day long, I just 
can't SSH into it.

Some things I've tried (in this order):
0) Put an exception for SSH and non-standard port in the firewall rules.
1) Disabled firewall entirely.
2) rebooted my router
3) Disabled Fail2Ban
4) Restarted networking

Any ideas? I'd really like to be able to connect to my box. 

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Re: Help -- can't SSH into my box

2009-01-06 Thread Ambrogio
On mar, 2009-01-06 at 06:20 -0500, John Aldrich wrote:

 Any ideas? I'd really like to be able to connect to my box. 
For first, launch an nmap from the client to see if there are open ports
(disable firewall at all just to try).

And after, check the conf files, to see if there is an exception for IP
or for network cards.

Let us know
Bye
 Ambrogio

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Re: Strange MTU-ish problem

2009-01-06 Thread Timothy Murphy
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

 You can add MTU=1492 to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1.

I tried this (and re-booted) but it doesn't seem to have any effect;
the MTU as given by ifconfig is still 1490:
---
[...@mary tmp]$ cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1
# Lucent Technologies WaveLAN/IEEE
DEVICE=eth1
HWADDR=00:02:2d:21:03:c9
NM_CONTROLLED=yes
MTU=1492

[...@mary tmp]$ ifconfig eth1
eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:02:2D:21:03:C9
...
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
---

Nb I solved my problem, as explained elsewhere in this thread.


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Re: F10 OpenOffice default page size

2009-01-06 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 16:38 +0900, Otgonbayar.A wrote:
 On Fedora 10 when I print a document in page size A4 it prints in Letter
 size. Is it only my problem or does someone have same problem?

I should ask the obvious: 

Is this printing a document that has already been created?  (Which will
come with its own page size as part of the document.)  You'll never fix
this externally, for all such documents.

Or are you talking about when you create a new document, it's created
with the wrong page size by default?  (This was the situation behind the
problems I was having, long ago, that I mentioned in my other email.)

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Re: Strange MTU-ish problem

2009-01-06 Thread Timothy Murphy
Maurizio Marini wrote:

 it's a known problem
 http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/index.php?topic=235535.msg1625049
 
 i have appended in sysctl.conf
 net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling = 0

Thanks very much.
Molto grazie.
That seems to have solved the problem for me.

It's strange that WiFi works fine with this router under Windows
(XP and Vista), but requires this under Linux.

Since the only reports of the problem seem to have been from Italy
I assume that the software setup on Alice (Telecom Italia) broadband
is the cause of the problem.
As far as I can see one has very little control over the router -
eg I was unable to change the WPA-PSK key.

[I was wondering if that was part of the new security paranoia,
to allow Them to break into my computer;
or is that paranoia on my part?]



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Re: USB stick with ext2?

2009-01-06 Thread Bryn M. Reeves

Michael Cronenworth wrote:

Alan Evans wrote:

Is there a way to make that work


Yes. Make a directory on the stick with your user permissions. The / 
of the usb drive will always be owned by root through HAL/dbus/gvfs


No - ext2/3/4's root inodes are just regular directories and can be 
owned by any user as Ed already mentioned. I set most of my removable 
media to be owned by my normal UID/GID for exactly this reason (they can 
also be labelled with xattrs for e.g. SELinux if required).


AFAIK. You could setup a special fstab line for manual mounting without 
requiring a folder, but I don't know if there is such an option in the DE.


AFAIK, you still can't do that with ext2/3/4 - they do not support a 
uid=/gid= mount option like vfat that would allow you to change 
ownership of the entire file system at mount time.


Regards,
Bryn.


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Re: ULi SATA/RAID controller (m5287) driver

2009-01-06 Thread David Timms

Bravismore Mumanyi wrote:
I would like to install Fedora 9 on a desktop with the above-quoted 
controller and need help on a site where I can download driver for RAID 
controller.

Can you plug it into a modern machine and provide the lspci output ?

You might find it just works. Have you tried ?

DaveT.

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Re: Help -- can't SSH into my box

2009-01-06 Thread Chris Snook

John Aldrich wrote:
Well, for some strange reason, since installing Fedora 10, I can no longer 
SSH into my box. I've got SSHD running, both on the standard port and on a 
non-standard port. I don't even get a username/password prompt. Just a 
timeout error. Funny thing is I can SCP into the box all day long, I just 
can't SSH into it.


Some things I've tried (in this order):
0) Put an exception for SSH and non-standard port in the firewall rules.
1) Disabled firewall entirely.
2) rebooted my router
3) Disabled Fail2Ban
4) Restarted networking

Any ideas? I'd really like to be able to connect to my box. 



I'm curious to know what, if anything, appears in /var/log/messages and 
/var/log/secure when you attempt to ssh in, as well as what appears when you 
successfully scp in.


Also, the fact that you're running sshd on a non-standard port implies that 
you've edited /etc/ssh/sshd_config.  Could you try the default sshd_config, just 
for comparison?  It's entirely possible that you're doing something that should 
be valid, but that some other security policy (PAM, SELinux, etc.) doesn't 
correctly handle in the default configuration.


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Re: Flash player with Fedora 9

2009-01-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 06 January 2009 00:56:05 Jerry Ro wrote:
 hi,
 did anyone manager to install a flash player on fedora 9 with firefox?
 I followed the exact instructions from fedora (when it told me install
 flash driver) and downloaded an rpm they suggested, installed it using
 YUM, but it still won't work. (did it as root.)

 this is what happens when i try to run yum again on the package (at first
 it installed it, now after it is installed:)

 [r...@localhost jer]# yum install adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm
 Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
 updates-newkey   | 2.3 kB
 00:00
 fedora   | 2.4 kB
 00:00
 updates  | 2.6 kB
 00:00
 adobe-linux-i386 |  951 B
 00:00
 primary.xml.gz   |  10 kB
 00:00
 adobe-linux-i386   17/17
 Setting up Install Process
 Parsing package install arguments
 Examining adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm:
 adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch
 adobe-release-i386-1.0-1.noarch.rpm: does not update installed package.
 Nothing to do

 which makes me believe it is installed.

 any ideas?

F9 required an extra package to be installed - IIRC it is called 
libflashsupport (could have a hyphen in there somewhere?)

Anne


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Mount usb drive with mount -a fails after f10 upgrade

2009-01-06 Thread Joe W. Byers

Happy New Year!

I recently upgraded a RHEL5 server to F10.  Yes there were many 
headaches doing the upgrade.


I have one remaining problem that I can not fix.That is the usb drive 
that I have in fstab will not mount when I issue the following command


mount -a

[r...@financialseal media]# mount -a
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1,
   missing codepage or helper program, or other error
   In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
   dmesg | tail  or so
My usb drive mounted fine using fstab with EL5.

I can mount the usbdrive using, all as root

mount -t ext2 /dev/sdc1 /media/usbdisk
or
mount -t auto /dev/sdc1 /media/usbdisk

lsusb and lshal all see this device and see the file system (ext2). 
This drive I want to mount to a specific location because I use it as a 
scheduled backup device.


I have searched the web over the holidays and am at a dead end.  I do 
not understand why this quite working after the upgrade.


Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thank you
Joe

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Re: Mount usb drive with mount -a fails after f10 upgrade

2009-01-06 Thread Chris Jones

Hi,

I have searched the web over the holidays and am at a dead end.  I do 
not understand why this quite working after the upgrade.


Any help is greatly appreciated.


What is the content of your /etc/fstab file ?

Have you tried the suggestion of looking at the output of dmesg ?

Chris

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Re: Mount usb drive with mount -a fails after f10 upgrade

2009-01-06 Thread Joe W. Byers

Chris Jones wrote:

Hi,

I have searched the web over the holidays and am at a dead end.  I do 
not understand why this quite working after the upgrade.


Any help is greatly appreciated.


What is the content of your /etc/fstab file ?

Have you tried the suggestion of looking at the output of dmesg ?

Chris


Chris,

my fstab is
/dev/sdc1   /media/usbdisk  ext2pamconsole,exec,auto,hotplug,managed
0   0

I have looked at dmesg and it tells me it is there and also give me a 
mount warning to run e2fsck.


Thank you
Joe

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Re: A reminder of EOL for F8

2009-01-06 Thread Steve

 Mike Cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote: 
 
 
 
 David Boles wrote:
  
  
  My point was that the Fedora 8 system will not magically 'poof' and stop
  working. But it would be for a user of Feodra 8, IMHO, a good time to
  plan an upgrade.
  
  
 
 Of course and it certainly would be desirable to upgrade if at all possible.
 However for some combinations of hardware a graphical install will fail and
 if a text install is used instead then some systems (eg those with Intel
 82845G graphics) will not work at all well once F10 is installed until the
 relevant driver is fixed.
 
 eg see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429500

Or https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=218181

I've been putting off upgrading until the last possible moment in the (futile) 
hope that someone would look at this bug and I could provide some data.

After all it is marked as Urgent but yet its been around for over 2 years. I've 
even tried e-mailing the assignee directly but no response. What's the point of 
filing bugs if no one looks at them? Very disappointing.

Oh well, I tried. Tonight I'm upgrading with the DVD.

Steve.

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Network interfaces refusing to start on boot: F10

2009-01-06 Thread Mark Haney
I am hoping I've not missed the bus on this particular problem, but I've 
 been too busy to upgrade my systems to F10 until the last week or so. 
 One, being my daughter's new laptop.


Now, I'm having one devil of a problem.  None of my F10 systems (2 
upgrades from F9 and one fresh install (the laptop)) network interfaces 
start on boot, even though in 'system-config-network' they are set to do 
so.


Even the config files have 'ONBOOT' set to yes.  So, what's the deal?

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Access from outside

2009-01-06 Thread John Aldrich
Ok. I managed to *briefly* connect with my machine from outside. I  
still think there's something hinky about my config since I  
installed F10. It *was* working on FC6, and I wiped and reinstalled  
F10. Now, I can SSH in from my wife's XP box on the LAN, but I can't  
SSH in from outside, either on port 22 or the non-standard port I  
configured to make things more difficult for hackers (port number is  
in excess of 2000).


I can SSH in from inside the LAN on either the standard port or the  
non-standard port, but I cannot access my machine from outside.


I've tried several things, but none of them seem to work. Any  
suggestions where to look?


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Re: Mount usb drive with mount -a fails after f10 upgrade

2009-01-06 Thread Chris Jones

Hi,

I have looked at dmesg and it tells me it is there and also give me a 
mount warning to run e2fsck.


Have you tried running e2fsck on the volume in question ?

cheers Chris

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Re: USB stick with ext2?

2009-01-06 Thread Michael Cronenworth

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: USB stick with ext2?
From: Bryn M. Reeves b...@redhat.com
To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. 
fedora-list@redhat.com

Date: 01/06/2009 06:12 AM



No - ext2/3/4's root inodes are just regular directories and can be 
owned by any user as Ed already mentioned. I set most of my removable 
media to be owned by my normal UID/GID for exactly this reason (they can 
also be labelled with xattrs for e.g. SELinux if required).




That's what happens when there's 50 different filesystems. I guess I 
need to brush up on my man mount knowledge.


I don't use ext2/3/4 for any drive or media I own nor at work.

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Re: Access from outside

2009-01-06 Thread Stephen Berg (Contractor)

John Aldrich wrote:
Ok. I managed to *briefly* connect with my machine from outside. I 
still think there's something hinky about my config since I 
installed F10. It *was* working on FC6, and I wiped and reinstalled 
F10. Now, I can SSH in from my wife's XP box on the LAN, but I can't 
SSH in from outside, either on port 22 or the non-standard port I 
configured to make things more difficult for hackers (port number is 
in excess of 2000).


I can SSH in from inside the LAN on either the standard port or the 
non-standard port, but I cannot access my machine from outside.


I've tried several things, but none of them seem to work. Any 
suggestions where to look?


Got a router in the mix there?  If you changed the port that ssh answers 
on you'll need to set the router to port forward incoming port 22 
connections to your non-standard port.


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Multiple windows on a window with KDE 4.x ? (1x24 display or 2x20 displays... )

2009-01-06 Thread Linuxguy123
Kind of off topic, but I'd love to know what people think of running a
single high quality 24 inch LCD display at 1920x1200 versus running 2 20
inch displays at 1680x1050.

I have the later setup (2 x 20@ 1680x1050) and it works, no doubt about
it.  But its not like having a single display because the space isn't
contiguous.  I tend to use one display as my main work area and the
other for the off the side stuff.  It would be nicer if it was all one
area.

However, one thing I do really like about the dual monitor setup is that
one gets two windows,ie if one maximizes an application on one of the
screens, it expands to fill that screen and only that screen.

I'm wondering if its possible to have 2 windows in a single display
under KDE4.x  Is there a way to set half the display up to be one window
and half to be another window ?  With a 1920x1200 display, each window
could be 960x1200.

I'd love to hear what other neat window/display things can be done in
KDE4.x that I don't know about.

I think one can run each display as a separate Linux session.  I've
never done that.   If one does this, can one copy and paste data between
the two ?

Thanks  

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Re: Access from outside

2009-01-06 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 09:22:25AM -0500, John Aldrich wrote:
 I can SSH in from inside the LAN on either the standard port or the  
 non-standard port, but I cannot access my machine from outside.

This sounds like a port forwarding issue.  If you're using iptables,
check your rules.  If you're using an external firewall, check its
configuration.

G'luck,
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Re: Flash player with Fedora 9

2009-01-06 Thread M A Young

On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Anne Wilson wrote:


F9 required an extra package to be installed - IIRC it is called
libflashsupport (could have a hyphen in there somewhere?)


Flash 9 (not Fedora 9) required that extra package to get sound working. 
Flash 10 doesn't need it, and indeed its presence can interfere with the 
working of Flash 10, so with Flash 10 you should remove this package, eg.

rpm -e libflashsupport

Michael Young

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Re: USB stick with ext2?

2009-01-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Ed Greshko wrote:
 Alan Evans wrote:
 Howdy!

 When I insert a USB thumb drive formatted with vfat, it gets
 automagically mounted under /media with appropriate permissions so the
 logged in user can write to the device. But if the thumb drive is
 formatted ext2, only root can write to it.

 $ mount
 /dev/sdb1 on /media/Devel type ext2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
 /dev/sdc1 on /media/disk type vfat
 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=500)
 $ ll
 total 20
 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  4096 2009-01-05 21:27 Devel
 drwxr-xr-x 3 alan root 16384 1969-12-31 16:00 disk

 Is there a way to make that work?


   
 With the USB mounted become root  Then chown alan /media/disk. 
 The ownership information is maintained in the ext2 structure.  So, the
 next time it is mounted it will retain ownership by alan.
 
One thing to keep in mind if you do this - if you move the drive to
another machine where the UID and GID for alan are different, you
will not be able to access the drive as alan. The owner/group
settings are the number, not the name, of the user/group.

You may want to use chown alan:alan /media/Devel instead of chown
alan /media/disk. This will set both the owner and group of the
disk. In this case, I would not use the -R option - I do not know
what the affect of changing the ownership of /media/Devel/lost+found
would be.

You also have the option of creating a directory on the USB drive
owned by alan. That way, you could have storage for more then one
user on the drive.

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Re: VMware Server 2.0, selinux, and F10

2009-01-06 Thread Daniel J Walsh
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Christopher A. Williams wrote:
 I had promised to do this and post my results a week ago and got
 thoroughly tied up over the holidays - sorry about that. It was a good
 Christmas for us though! :)
 
 So - I did get around to loading up a server with the latest version of
 F10 (32-bit in this case) to run the 32-bit version of VMware Server 2.0
 (build 122956) to try and answer the burning question: Does selinux need
 to be disabled for VMware Server to run properly on F10?
 
 I know the inpatient out there can't wait to read the whole post, so
 here's the answer:
 
 Yes.
 
 According to our testing (a friend of mine who also frequents this list
 was here too), the current version of VMware Server DOES NOT RUN on F10
 (32-bit) unless selinux is DISABLED. Permissive mode doesn't cut it - it
 still causes VMware Server to not run.
 
 Here are the details:
 Server: Whitebox Supermicro 1U chassis, dual 2.4GHz Pentium Xeon
 processors, 4GB RAM, Dual Gig-E NICs, dual 250GB IDE drives
 
 OS: F10 32-bit, with all patches as of 12-28-08
 Kernel: 2.6.27.9-159.fc10 (PAE version - required to see the full 4GB)
 
 We loaded a fresh copy F10 with all of the required development tools
 and supporting stuff VMware Server needs to compile, and left selinux in
 its default (enforcing) mode and targeted policy. The system was
 intentionally updated with all of the latest available patches. After
 rebooting (kernel update that included a switch to the PAE kernel), we
 then installed VMware Server from the RPM via Package Kit. The initial
 RPM install went as expected with no errors or issues beyond the warning
 that the RPM is not signed (Request to VMware: Please, PLEASE make sure
 that you always sign your RPMs!).
 
 Next up was to configure the system. We fired up a terminal window,
 switched user to root, and then launched vmware-config.pl as normal. The
 script properly found everything it needed, set up the virtual networks,
 and compiled all of the modules against the PAE kernel with no errors at
 all. All of the services reported in as having started successfully when
 the script exited, which was when the trouble started.
 
 We immediately picked up an selinux error saying that one of the modules
 required the ability to use text relocation. No big deal here, which is
 why I don't remember off hand which module committed the offense. I'll
 go back and pull it up next chance - I'm on a different system right
 now. The selinux troubleshooter gave us the required command to address
 this issue, so we fixed the problem and off we went.
 
 ...Or so we thought.
 
 It seems that something else in selinux is interfering with a new VMware
 Server 2.0 service called VirtualMachines. I'm not sure what the problem
 is, how it happens, or why. What happens is that you can launch Firefox
 to talk to VMware server (http://localhost:8222 in this case) and get
 the VMware Server login page. However, from there you are unable to
 login. The system times out with a message basically saying that
 communication with the back-end server processes has been lost. Further
 checking (service vmware status) shows that several VMware Server
 services are actually NOT running.
 
 Upon trying to restart the vmware services (service vmware restart), we
 see that the VirtualMachines service has failed. There are no errors I
 can see, and nothing in dmesg out of the ordinary.
 
 Next, we placed selinux into permissive mode to see if anything might
 pop up or change, and then rebooted the system. We saw exactly the same
 behavior from VMware Server as before when selinux was in enforcing
 mode.
 
 Finally, we disabled selinux altogether and rebooted once more. This
 time, VMware Server came up and ran flawlessly. In fact, it was
 impressively fast given the age of the hardware.
 
 Just for grins, we then completely erased VMware Server, rebooted, and
 double-checked to make sure everything about it was completely gone from
 the system. We then re-installed it using the exact same procedure as
 before. VMware Server installed and ran flawlessly. In fact, just to be
 sure again, we rebooted the server one more time. Again VMware Server
 came up and ran without issues.
 
 Thus, in our testing of this, it is clear there are multiple issues with
 VMware Server and selinux. One of the issues is that a specific module
 requires text relocation, which is easily solved. The other issue is
 going to be a little more difficult to troubleshoot, but clearly there
 is something that conflicts between selinux and one of the new VMware
 Server services, and the only way to get around it at this point is to
 disable selinux.
 
 I'll have the system handy for the next day or so to do some additional
 testing, but then I have to put it back into production. Let me know
 what specifics I should look for next to find the source of the problem.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Chris
 
 
 
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Re: Help -- can't SSH into my box

2009-01-06 Thread John Aldrich

Quoting Chris Snook csn...@redhat.com:



I'm curious to know what, if anything, appears in /var/log/messages and
/var/log/secure when you attempt to ssh in, as well as what appears
when you successfully scp in.

Initially, nothing was appearing in /var/log/secure. However, I did  
eventually find out that my DHCP wasn't handing my box the IP address  
I was expecting it to, so I fixed the statically-assigned entry in my  
DSL router for my box and I was able to SSH in from the LAN. When I  
did that, it showed the expected entry in /var/log/secure. I also saw  
some hack attempts from an unknown IP (NOT the IP I was coming in from.)


Also, the fact that you're running sshd on a non-standard port implies
that you've edited /etc/ssh/sshd_config.  Could you try the default
sshd_config, just for comparison?  It's entirely possible that you're
doing something that should be valid, but that some other security
policy (PAM, SELinux, etc.) doesn't correctly handle in the default
configuration.

Hmm.. possibly. I compared it with the saved SSHD_CONFIG from my FC6  
box (I copied it to my home directory before wiping and reinstalling)  
and it *appeared* to be identical. Also, I'm running SELINUX in  
Permissive mode (have I mentioned I *hate* SELINUX?!?!? G) since  
there doesn't appear to be any way to disable it entirely. In any  
case, I'll try that later...


I was able to briefly enter my box at home from work this morning, but  
I got kicked out in less than a minute for some reason and have not  
been able to get back in. I have also hard-coded my work IP in  
/etc/hosts.allow. I got in on port 22, instead of the non-standard  
port (which I prefer not to reveal here for security sake! G)


I'm not a total n00bie, but I'm not an experience sys-admin either. :-)

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Re: Network interfaces refusing to start on boot: F10

2009-01-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Mark Haney wrote:
 I am hoping I've not missed the bus on this particular problem, but I've
  been too busy to upgrade my systems to F10 until the last week or so.
  One, being my daughter's new laptop.
 
 Now, I'm having one devil of a problem.  None of my F10 systems (2
 upgrades from F9 and one fresh install (the laptop)) network interfaces
 start on boot, even though in 'system-config-network' they are set to do
 so.
 
 Even the config files have 'ONBOOT' set to yes.  So, what's the deal?
 
First, let me say that I have not played with this on F10 yet - I
only have it installed on my laptop, and I do not want the
interfaces to come up on boot of that machine. So this advice may be
wrong for F10.

It sounds like the NetworkManager service is controlling the
devices, instead of the network service. NetworkManager normally
does not bring up interfaces until a user logs in (to the GUI?).

You can try adding NM_CONTROLLED=no to the config files. If that
does not work, try running:

chkconfig NetworkManager off
chkconfig network on

and see if that fixes the problem on the next boot.

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Netbook wifi, wlan0 and inet6 address (F10)

2009-01-06 Thread Anne Wilson
I'm still strugging to find a solution to the problems of the AR5006EG 
wireless on the Acer Aspire One.

It seems that the driver is not being loaded, no matter what I do, so I 
considered the options.

Using ndiswrapper and a windows driver - not simple, as I didn't buy the 
windows system.  I can find several download pages but they all want me to 
install a windows program to investigate the hardware so that they can give me 
the correct driver.  Yesterday I did find 
http://www.atheros.cz/download.php?atheros=AR5006EGsystem=1from which I found 
a driver and an inf file.  I tried installing these with ndiswrapper this 
morning, but it says it can't find a sys file.  I've never used ndiswrapper 
before, so it's possible I'm missing something.

Using madwifi - there have been reports that on some systems the madwifi 
driver gives better results than the kernel driver.  I installed madwifi and 
kmod-madwifi.  What must I do to make the system use this instead of the 
kernel driver?

Lastly, I checked ifconfig, which now lists wifi0 and wlan0.  wifi0 has no 
inet addr: at all.  wlan0 has an inet6 addr: - I do not use inet6 at this 
stage.  Is there something I must do to disable inet6 before it can get an 
inet4 address?

I have tried everything I know or have read about.  Any help would be 
gratefully received.

Anne


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Re: Access from outside

2009-01-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
John Aldrich wrote:
 Ok. I managed to *briefly* connect with my machine from outside. I still
 think there's something hinky about my config since I installed F10.
 It *was* working on FC6, and I wiped and reinstalled F10. Now, I can SSH
 in from my wife's XP box on the LAN, but I can't SSH in from outside,
 either on port 22 or the non-standard port I configured to make things
 more difficult for hackers (port number is in excess of 2000).
 
 I can SSH in from inside the LAN on either the standard port or the
 non-standard port, but I cannot access my machine from outside.
 
 I've tried several things, but none of them seem to work. Any
 suggestions where to look?
 
Dumb question - did the IP address of hte machine change? If so,
check the forwarding rules on your firewall - you may be trying to
connect to the wrong machine.

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Re: Network interfaces refusing to start on boot: F10

2009-01-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:11:16 -0500
Mark Haney wrote:

 So, what's the deal?

The new default is NetworkManager. If you want networking to
behave exactly like it always used to, then you need to:

chkconfig --level 2345 NetworkManager off
chkconfig --level 2345 network on

That gets back the old network interface which is willing
to start interfaces at boot time.

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Re: Help -- can't SSH into my box

2009-01-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
John Aldrich wrote:
 Hmm.. possibly. I compared it with the saved SSHD_CONFIG from my FC6 box
 (I copied it to my home directory before wiping and reinstalling) and it
 *appeared* to be identical. Also, I'm running SELINUX in Permissive
 mode (have I mentioned I *hate* SELINUX?!?!? G) since there doesn't
 appear to be any way to disable it entirely. In any case, I'll try that
 later...
 
You may want to check to see if the defaults have changed between
FC6 and F10. I don't remember exactly when the defaults for sshd
changed.

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Re: F10 OpenOffice default page size

2009-01-06 Thread Pavel Lisy
Tim píše v Út 06. 01. 2009 v 22:14 +1030:
 On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 16:38 +0900, Otgonbayar.A wrote:
  On Fedora 10 when I print a document in page size A4 it prints in Letter
  size. Is it only my problem or does someone have same problem?

It was my longtime question too.

 I should ask the obvious: 
 
 Is this printing a document that has already been created?  (Which will
 come with its own page size as part of the document.)  You'll never fix
 this externally, for all such documents.

I had the same problems with .doc documents from my friends and I am
pretty sure that there was A4 paper size inside because nobody use
letter paper size in our region. But OOorg has set letter paper size for
print always. After hint that I mentioned in my previous email it is
working better.

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Re: Help -- can't SSH into my box

2009-01-06 Thread Alex Schuster
John Aldrich writes:

 Any ideas? I'd really like to be able to connect to my box.

No idea what's happening. But I'd try increasing verbosity with ssh -v or 
even ssh -vvv, maybe you will spot what's wrong then.

Good luck,

Wonko

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Problem removing: fmt-ptrn-java-1.3.17-1.fc9.i386

2009-01-06 Thread Daniel B. Thurman


I was receiving email log notices that there was
a problem with removing fmt-ptrn-java-1.3.17-1.fc9.i386,
so I attempted to remove it:

# yum remove fmt-ptrn-java-1.3.17-1.fc9.i386
Loaded plugins: aliases, fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit
Setting up Remove Process
Resolving Dependencies
-- Running transaction check
--- Package fmt-ptrn-java.i386 0:1.3.17-1.fc9 set to be erased
-- Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved


Package  ArchVersion
RepositorySize


Removing:
fmt-ptrn-javai3861.3.17-1.fc9   
installed 11 k


Transaction Summary

Install  0 Package(s)
Update   0 Package(s)
Remove   1 Package(s)


Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
== Entering rpm code 
===

Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
 Erasing: 
fmt-ptrn-java1/1

/sbin/ldconfig: relative path `1' used to build cache
=== Leaving rpm code 
===


Removed:
 fmt-ptrn-java.i386 
0:1.3.17-1.fc9


Complete!

Geez, one might think yum actually removed it, but in this case, it lied.
Trying to pull the ol'e sliparoo on me, ehh? I tried running yum remove
as above again and the same exact removal messages appears again and
again - so, it is NOT removed!  So, I tried another way:

# apt-get --fix-broken install
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  fmt-ptrn-java#1.3.17-1.fc9 (1.3.17-1.fc9)
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 removed and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B of archives.
After unpacking 11.0kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Committing changes...
Preparing## 
[100%]

Cleaning up / removing
 fmt-ptrn-java-1.3.17-1.fc9.i386## 
[100%]

/sbin/ldconfig: relative path `1' used to build cache
error: %postun(fmt-ptrn-java-1.3.17-1.fc9.i386) scriptlet failed, exit 
status 1

Done.
W: Some errors occurred while running transaction

Ah!  Well at least it is telling me there is a problem in attempting
to remove this package...  Well apt-get cannot remove this package
so, I tried using rpm directly:

# rpm -e fmt-ptrn-java-1.3.17-1.fc9.i386
/sbin/ldconfig: relative path `1' used to build cache
error: %postun(fmt-ptrn-java-1.3.17-1.fc9.i386) scriptlet failed, exit 
status 1


Three strikes, and I am out!

So, how can I get rid of this package?

Thanks!
Dan

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Re: USB stick with ext2?

2009-01-06 Thread Alan Evans
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
 With the USB mounted become root  Then chown alan /media/disk.
 The ownership information is maintained in the ext2 structure.  So, the
 next time it is mounted it will retain ownership by alan.

I find this acceptable. At least my source code files aren't
executable, as they pretend to be with vfat.

A better system for removable media would be for the root folder owner
be changed to that of the console user, as it appears to happen with
vfat mounts. That way, the media could be truly portable with minimum
fuss.

Actually, that leads me to my solution! Just do chmod 777 on the thumb
drive's root folder and it all behaves the way I want. Anybody can
create files or folders on the device, and read/write permissions are
sensibly handled.

Thanks for all the input, guys!

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Re: Problem removing: fmt-ptrn-java-1.3.17-1.fc9.i386

2009-01-06 Thread Mamoru Tasaka

Daniel B. Thurman wrote, at 01/07/2009 12:27 AM +9:00:


I was receiving email log notices that there was
a problem with removing fmt-ptrn-java-1.3.17-1.fc9.i386,

# rpm -e fmt-ptrn-java-1.3.17-1.fc9.i386
/sbin/ldconfig: relative path `1' used to build cache
error: %postun(fmt-ptrn-java-1.3.17-1.fc9.i386) scriptlet failed, exit 
status 1


Three strikes, and I am out!

So, how can I get rid of this package?

Thanks!
Dan


This behavior seems fixed by bug 448267, but for your case try
$ rpm -e --noscripts fmt-ptrn-java

Regards,
Mamoru

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Re: Flash player with Fedora 9

2009-01-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 06 January 2009 14:31:52 M A Young wrote:
 On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Anne Wilson wrote:
  F9 required an extra package to be installed - IIRC it is called
  libflashsupport (could have a hyphen in there somewhere?)

 Flash 9 (not Fedora 9) required that extra package to get sound working.
 Flash 10 doesn't need it, and indeed its presence can interfere with the
 working of Flash 10, so with Flash 10 you should remove this package, eg.
 rpm -e libflashsupport

He did say he was using Fedora 9, and yes, it gave sound in flash.  If he 
isn't even seeing the video, presumably flash is not correctly/completely 
installed.

Anne


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Re: Help -- can't SSH into my box

2009-01-06 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 09:55 -0500, John Aldrich wrote:
 Quoting Chris Snook csn...@redhat.com:

 
 Hmm.. possibly. I compared it with the saved SSHD_CONFIG from my FC6  
 box (I copied it to my home directory before wiping and reinstalling)  
 and it *appeared* to be identical. Also, I'm running SELINUX in  
 Permissive mode (have I mentioned I *hate* SELINUX?!?!? G) since  
 there doesn't appear to be any way to disable it entirely. In any  
 case, I'll try that later...
Are you saying having the line SELLINIX=disabled in the
file /etc/selinux/conf does not disable Selinux?
 

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auto-configure NTP in Kickstart?

2009-01-06 Thread Cameron Mura

Hi all,

Does anyone know how to setup NTP info via kickstart ?  More 
specifically, I'd like to do the following on Fedora 10 systems via the 
kickstart mechanism:


1) Specify NTP servers (e.g., ntp1.virginia.edu, ntp2.virginia.edu, ...)

2) Enable / activate NTP -- I.e., What one would get by running 
'system-config-time' and clicking the Enable Network Time Protocol box.


I know this stuff can set manually, post-installation, via the 
system-config-time route, and that it also can be setup immediately 
after a kickstart-based install by setting firstboot --enable to run 
the Setup Agent upon first reboot (...and then manually entering the 
info at that screen.)   But seems as though this could be done at the 
kickstart level ??


I couldn't find anything on ntp-in-kickstart in the Anaconda Kickstart 
reference at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Kickstart or by 
searching around the web.  I naively did the following in a ks file to 
modify ntp.conf, but that doesn't actually 'enable' ntp on the system:

cat  /etc/ntp.conf EOF_ntpconfig
server ntp1.virginia.edu dynamic
server ntp2.virginia.edu dynamic
server ntp3.virginia.edu dynamic
EOF_ntpconfig
Any tips (or pointers to possible advice) would be most sincerely 
appreciated...


Cameron
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Fedora 9, OpenOffice 3 and Arial Black

2009-01-06 Thread Nicolae Ghimbovschi
Hello,

I have on a machine Fedora 9 where I have installed OpenOffice from
openoffice.org. Also on that machine I have installed ms core truetype
fonts.
I installed the truetype fonts in /usr/share/fonts/ttfonts/ttf  and
the Type1 fonts in  /usr/share/fonts/ttfonts/Type1.

After, I run in both these dirs: mkfontscale, mkfontdir, ttmkfdir and
fc-cache -fv.

The problem is when I open a .doc file which is using Arial Black
font, it looks as it is simple Arial and not Arial Black

While doing the same thing in Fedora 10 (using the default openoffice
3). Arial Black looks as it should.

Does anybody have a clue what might be wrong ?
How different are openoffice builds distributed by openoffice.org from
those distributed by the fedora community ?

Thank you !

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Re: Access from outside

2009-01-06 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 09:22 -0500, John Aldrich wrote:
 Ok. I managed to *briefly* connect with my machine from outside. I  
 still think there's something hinky about my config since I  
 installed F10. It *was* working on FC6, and I wiped and reinstalled  
 F10. Now, I can SSH in from my wife's XP box on the LAN, but I can't  
 SSH in from outside, either on port 22 or the non-standard port I  
 configured to make things more difficult for hackers (port number is  
 in excess of 2000).
 
 I can SSH in from inside the LAN on either the standard port or the  
 non-standard port, but I cannot access my machine from outside.
 
 I've tried several things, but none of them seem to work. Any  
 suggestions where to look?
 
Sounds like a hosts-allow, hosts-deny problem
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RE: Fedora 10 KDE Crash

2009-01-06 Thread Casartello, Thomas
It's immediately on launching KDE

Thomas E. Casartello, Jr.
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-Original Message-
From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com] On 
Behalf Of Anne Wilson
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:57 AM
To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.
Subject: Re: Fedora 10 KDE Crash

On Monday 05 January 2009 16:29:04 Casartello, Thomas wrote:
 My coworker just upgraded to Fedora 10 from 9 and it crashes every time he
 launches KDE (Doesn't happen with GNOME.) This is his video card ATI
 Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro] . Any thoughts?

A few things that might be worth trying:

Delete ~/.kde/share/config/plasma*rc - if there is corruption in either of 
those rebuilding them (by re-logging in) should get rid of the problem.

If you have flgrx, remove it.  KWin apparently doesn't like it.

In systemsettings - make sure that Desktop Effects are not enabled.

There are some known problems.  Most reports have been about Intel video, but 
I have problems of freezes on this laptop which is ATi Radeon X600.  
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464866 is almost certainly my 
problem.  Whether it's your colleague's depends I guess on whether his crash 
is immediately on launching KDE or random times afterwards.

Anne

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Re: Help -- can't SSH into my box

2009-01-06 Thread John Aldrich

Quoting Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org:


John Aldrich writes:


Any ideas? I'd really like to be able to connect to my box.


No idea what's happening. But I'd try increasing verbosity with ssh -v or
even ssh -vvv, maybe you will spot what's wrong then.

Ok... Now I'm in again. How long, I don't know. However, a new  
issue... My desktop. I'm using VNC to connect to a new desktop (:1)  
and it does NOT look like my new F10 desktop. In fact, all my icons  
are in a window on my desktop and I have to browse it. There is no  
quick-launch tool bar either at top or bottom. On the other hand, it  
does have other features of my FC6 desktop, such as the workspace  
icons clustered together in a square, instead of beside each other as  
in F10.


I'm guessing that this is the new KDE Desktop instead of the default  
Gnome desktop. If that's the case, I think I'll switch back to Gnome,  
and just use my KDE apps.


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Re: Problem removing: fmt-ptrn-java-1.3.17-1.fc9.i386

2009-01-06 Thread Daniel B. Thurman

Mamoru Tasaka wrote:

Daniel B. Thurman wrote, at 01/07/2009 12:27 AM +9:00:


I was receiving email log notices that there was
a problem with removing fmt-ptrn-java-1.3.17-1.fc9.i386,

# rpm -e fmt-ptrn-java-1.3.17-1.fc9.i386
/sbin/ldconfig: relative path `1' used to build cache
error: %postun(fmt-ptrn-java-1.3.17-1.fc9.i386) scriptlet failed, 
exit status 1


Three strikes, and I am out!

So, how can I get rid of this package?

Thanks!
Dan


This behavior seems fixed by bug 448267, but for your case try
$ rpm -e --noscripts fmt-ptrn-java

Ok, thanks - I had to remove multiple copies first and
then run the rpm command last - it worked.  I then
re-installed the package and now it is all good!

Dan

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Re: X locks up after a random time

2009-01-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 05 January 2009 09:31:32 Paulo Cavalcanti wrote:
 Impressive. It seems that everybody knows about this problem since before
 the F10 release. Therefore, it is a plain case of broken edge.

Paulo, someone on the kde list told me to use EXA acceleration, telling me to 
add this

 Section Device
Option  UseAtomBIOS true
Option  AccelMethod EXA
# ...
 EndSection

 This works with both the radeon as well as the radeonhd driver but only
 with cards up to an X1950.  HD2xxx and above aren't supported yet.

He was unsure, and I couldn't ascertain whether my elderly X600 could 
'UseAtomBIOS' so I commented that line out.  I've using the laptop for 5 hours 
now with Desktop Effects enabled and without a freeze.  If you or anyone else 
reading is using an ATi card this is worth a try.

Perhaps there are similar AccelMethod entries for Intel cards that deal with 
the problem?

Anne


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Re: auto-configure NTP in Kickstart?

2009-01-06 Thread Mogens Kjaer

Cameron Mura wrote:

  I naively did the following in a ks file to
modify ntp.conf, but that doesn't actually 'enable' ntp on the system:

cat  /etc/ntp.conf EOF_ntpconfig
server ntp1.virginia.edu dynamic
server ntp2.virginia.edu dynamic
server ntp3.virginia.edu dynamic
EOF_ntpconfig


I have:

/sbin/chkconfig ntpd on
echo 'server 130.226.184.8' /etc/ntp.conf
echo 'driftfile /var/lib/ntp/drift' /etc/ntp.conf
chmod 644 /etc/ntp.conf
echo ' ' /etc/ntp/ntpservers
echo '130.226.184.8' /etc/ntp/ntpservers
echo '130.226.184.8' /etc/ntp/step-tickers

in the %post section of the .ks file. Replace the IP numbers as needed.

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Re: Network interfaces refusing to start on boot: F10

2009-01-06 Thread Mark Haney

Tom Horsley wrote:

On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:11:16 -0500
Mark Haney wrote:


So, what's the deal?


The new default is NetworkManager. If you want networking to
behave exactly like it always used to, then you need to:

chkconfig --level 2345 NetworkManager off
chkconfig --level 2345 network on

That gets back the old network interface which is willing
to start interfaces at boot time.



Okay, so explain this to me.  Why, in system-config-network, when I look 
at the interfaces does the box labeled 'Have Network Manager control 
Interface' (Or whatever it says, I'm not near my systems now) unchecked? 
 If NM controls them, shouldn't that box be checked?  I mean, why offer 
the options in 's-c-n' if they aren't going to be implemented?




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Re: HiJacking Threads Was: hostapd for Fedora 10

2009-01-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

 Then I'm somewhat at a loss to understand what you mean by threading.
 The linking of replies to the messages being replied to joins the
 entire set together into a thread. The presentation of the thread as a
 visual hierarchy or whatever is a matter for the MUA.

 Take 4 messages, each written by a different person

 W - Original Message
 X  - In-Reply-To W
 Y  - In-Reply-To X
 Z  -  In-Reply-To Y

 If you rely solely on the In-Reply-To header there is no practical
 method to link Z to W.

Except by linking Z to Y to X to W, which amazingly is what mail
clients actually do!

This would be especially true in the event where
 either X or Y did not arrive or does not exist on the message store of
 the local MUA.  Once has always to take into account these types of
 circumstances.

Naturally. One quickly learns that when the Internet Gods say that
mail is unreliable, they really mean it, and any software which
doesn't take this into account will crash and burn. To return to the
point: when delayed messages arrive, they are appropriately inserted
in the thread the next time the MUA refreshes its folder view, and of
course if they don't, they aren't. An additional header called
References might help in some cases, but not if the original message
never arrived, so we're back where we started. The MUA does what it
can with partial information (and it almost never knows if what it has
is partial or complete).

 FWIW, I've found that RFC 2822 has a better discussion of the use of
 in-reply-to and references headers and their intended usage.


 I quoted RFC822 because you said you weren't aware of RFCs which
 specify threading, and 822 is the original standard reference for
 email (at least in the form that's still in use).

 But...  RFC822 *does not* talk about threading.  You are implying that.

As I already said, I know it doesn't talk about threading, but it
implies certain things about it (otherwise, what is the point of the
In-Reply-To header?). The RFC authors are usually very careful not to
overspecify things, especially when there isn't enough real-world
experience, so it's no surprise that RFC 2822 (which obsoletes 822)
has more to say on the subject as it was written a good few years
later.

 And, even if that were the intent of the authors, it is not clear and
 thus very much open to interpretation.
 2822 is certainly more extensive, but I don't think it adds anything
 to the present discussion. For example, I'm not aware of any mail
 clients that use the References header, or that allow a message to be
 in reply to more than one originating message (such clients may of
 course exist, in which case it would be interesting to know about
 them). RFCs often specify stuff that most clients don't implement,
 e.g. not many people know that you can have a mail message with
 multiple From: headers (the canonical example is a message sent by a
 committee, each member of which appears in the From: line with their
 own address). I've never seen such a message and I doubt I could
 construct one with any of the clients I use, but the RFCs allow it.


 Thunderbird uses the References header.  If you were to reply to a
 virgin message and examine the outgoing message you'd notice that it
 adds the In-Reply-To and References headers which are identical.  If
 you reply to a non-virgin message it adds the In-Reply-To  header with
 the single message id of the non-virgin message and appends that to the
 References header.

Evolution also does this. That isn't the point: creating the
References header is relatively simple. When I say uses I mean pays
attention to in incoming mail. Can you give a specific example where
the MUA uses the References header to display messages (i.e. derives
some information from it that is not present in the In-Reply-To
header, other than simply copying it to further replies)? I don't say
this never happens, just that it would seem at best to be rare. IOW,
everyday threading uses the In-Reply-To header, which is my original
point.

 T-bird also uses the Subject line as a hint to threading to assist it
 displaying threads when certain MUAs don't handle the References
 header...as it strips it out on a reply.  As in violates the RFCs.

Does it favour Subject over In-Reply-To? Evolution also has an option
to take Subject into account, but only as a last resort.

 FWIW, not many people know that the From header in the message body
 may be totally different from the From in the SMTP envelope and that
 the From header isn't used for message transport or delivery.

They also don't know the difference between From and Sender, so what
else is new? :-)

poc

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Re: Flash player with Fedora 9

2009-01-06 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 06 January 2009 16:45, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Tuesday 06 January 2009 14:31:52 M A Young wrote:
  On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Anne Wilson wrote:
   F9 required an extra package to be installed - IIRC it is called
   libflashsupport (could have a hyphen in there somewhere?)
 
  Flash 9 (not Fedora 9) required that extra package to get sound working.
  Flash 10 doesn't need it, and indeed its presence can interfere with the
  working of Flash 10, so with Flash 10 you should remove this package, eg.
  rpm -e libflashsupport

 He did say he was using Fedora 9, and yes, it gave sound in flash.  If he
 isn't even seeing the video, presumably flash is not correctly/completely
 installed.

 Anne

I've just being trying to get flash working on Kubuntu Intrepid 8.10, as 
someone was having problems getting the site below to play. It wouldn't work 
with Adobe's flash 10, and the site was still complaing of flash being 
missing. Someone suggested Gnash, so I installed that, and the Gnash-plugin, 
but still no go, and I got a popup about missing codecs from Firefox, mainly, 
gstreamer-ffmpeg, and gstreamer-extra, which is included in 
gstreamer-plugins-ugly. Installed those 2 packages, and now the site plays 
the flash stuff ok.

Just looked on my F9 install on the same machine. flash-plugin is installed 
(flash10), and libflashsupport is not installed. I see I also had Gnash 
installed. As installing gstreamer-ffmpeg, and gstreamer-plugins-ugly on the 
Kubuntu install had worked, I tried this lastnight on F9, but still no go.

Now I've just installed gnash-plugin, and gnash-klash (which is supposed to 
get flash working in Konqueror (havn't tried Konqueror yet)). About:plugins 
in Firefox now shows 2 entries for Flash, but better than that, the site 
below plays.

http://www.koalabrothers.com

The site above is kiddie stuff, and someone on the Kubuntu list was trying to 
get it working. I've just passed 60 (Dec 18), but it's a bit of fun all the 
same.

btw. I've just tried Konqueror with the site, and that too plays the flash 
content ok. Only need to try Opera now, and if that too plays the flash 
stuff, it's all systems go.

Nigel.

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Re: Flash player with Fedora 9

2009-01-06 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 06 January 2009 16:50:38 Nigel Henry wrote:
 On Tuesday 06 January 2009 16:45, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Tuesday 06 January 2009 14:31:52 M A Young wrote:
   On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Anne Wilson wrote:
F9 required an extra package to be installed - IIRC it is called
libflashsupport (could have a hyphen in there somewhere?)
  
   Flash 9 (not Fedora 9) required that extra package to get sound
   working. Flash 10 doesn't need it, and indeed its presence can
   interfere with the working of Flash 10, so with Flash 10 you should
   remove this package, eg. rpm -e libflashsupport
 
  He did say he was using Fedora 9, and yes, it gave sound in flash.  If he
  isn't even seeing the video, presumably flash is not correctly/completely
  installed.
 
  Anne

 I've just being trying to get flash working on Kubuntu Intrepid 8.10, as
 someone was having problems getting the site below to play. It wouldn't
 work with Adobe's flash 10, and the site was still complaing of flash being
 missing. Someone suggested Gnash, so I installed that, and the
 Gnash-plugin, but still no go, and I got a popup about missing codecs from
 Firefox, mainly, gstreamer-ffmpeg, and gstreamer-extra, which is included
 in
 gstreamer-plugins-ugly. Installed those 2 packages, and now the site plays
 the flash stuff ok.

 Just looked on my F9 install on the same machine. flash-plugin is installed
 (flash10), and libflashsupport is not installed. I see I also had Gnash
 installed. As installing gstreamer-ffmpeg, and gstreamer-plugins-ugly on
 the Kubuntu install had worked, I tried this lastnight on F9, but still no
 go.

 Now I've just installed gnash-plugin, and gnash-klash (which is supposed to
 get flash working in Konqueror (havn't tried Konqueror yet)). About:plugins
 in Firefox now shows 2 entries for Flash, but better than that, the site
 below plays.

 http://www.koalabrothers.com

 The site above is kiddie stuff, and someone on the Kubuntu list was trying
 to get it working. I've just passed 60 (Dec 18), but it's a bit of fun all
 the same.

 btw. I've just tried Konqueror with the site, and that too plays the flash
 content ok. Only need to try Opera now, and if that too plays the flash
 stuff, it's all systems go.

Sounds as though you're almost there.  I'll file this info for future use :-)

Anne


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Re: A reminder of EOL for F8

2009-01-06 Thread David
Kevin Kofler wrote:
 David wrote:
 My point was that the Fedora 8 system will not magically 'poof' and stop
 working. But it would be for a user of Feodra 8, IMHO, a good time to
 plan an upgrade.
 
 No, it's a good time to already have upgraded. If you still haven't, don't
 waste time planning, just do it!



I see many here Kevin that have not upgraded since FC-6.  ;-)

Seriously a 'same day as release' upgrade for some users is not
practical or wise. But past EOL, IMO, is a bad thing for the user. An
upgrade from, say Fedora 8 to Fedora 9, is a waste of time since F-9 is
next for EOL. And soon.


*However* when I said 'planning for' I meant just that. *Too* many times
do I see the surprised words of some user that updated/upgraded *before*
doing any research.

Research? I mean reading the Release Notes, FAQ's , and Known
Problems/errata *before* even installing the CD/DVD.

Not everything is listed. But much is.

On another list, for another distribution, a luser was trying to install
the x86_64 bit release on his PIII with 512megs of memory and failing
miserably. It was almost three days before someone recognized the real
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Re: HiJacking Threads Was: hostapd for Fedora 10

2009-01-06 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 12:16 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 Can you give a specific example where the MUA uses the References
 header to display messages (i.e. derives some information from it that
 is not present in the In-Reply-To header, other than simply copying it
 to further replies)?

You can test for that yourself with any collection of messages belonging
to a thread, remove the messages linked directly together by the
in-reply-to headers.  (Copy a thread to a test folder, remove the every
second generation of messages.)

If the mailer manages to keep the related messages grouped together as a
related thread, even without messages being linked as replies to another
message, then it's using the reference headers.

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Re: Upgrade Has Caused A Downgrade

2009-01-06 Thread Gene Poole
a) When you say upgrade, do you mean telling Anaconda to upgrade an 
existing 
installation?  Anaconda doesn't have logic to handle migrating from i386 
to 
x86_64, so it's not expected to work.  Upgrading from F8 i386 to F9 i386 
or F10 
i386 generally should work.  If you want to switch architectures, you need 
a 
fresh install.

I attempted to upgrade from Fedora 8 x86_64 to Fedora 9 x86_64 - which 
failed at the point where the new packages were being installed.

b) You haven't given us any diagnostic information at all.  F9 and F10 
wouldn't 
have been released if x86_64 builds routinely failed to install, and 
there's 
nothing exotic about your hardware, so it's highly unlikely that anyone is 
going 
to immediately know what's wrong with your setup.  Please at least give us 
an 
error message or something.

There is no diagnostic information from the initial install because it was 
a 'bare metal' install. I didn't retain and logs or other diagnostic 
information from the upgrade attempt because the machine would not boot 
because the primary OS file systems (/; /boot; /usr) were not fully 
populated with the Fedora 9 software - but - the Fedora 8 software was no 
longer at a point where it would boot.


Thanks,
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Re: Mount usb drive with mount -a fails after f10 upgrade

2009-01-06 Thread Joe W. Byers
Chris Jones jonesc at hep.phy.cam.ac.uk writes:

 
 Hi,
 
  I have looked at dmesg and it tells me it is there and also give me a 
  mount warning to run e2fsck.
 
 Have you tried running e2fsck on the volume in question ?
 
 cheers Chris
 

Yes, several times since I have been trying different solutions for mounting and
unmounting the drive.  This is a standard message that I received before the
upgrade since I only ran e2fsck once a quarter or so.

thank you
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Re: F9-F10 No GDM

2009-01-06 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:38:07 -0500
Eric Mesa wrote:

 I tried erasing Xorg and rebooting. Same problem. I checked my /etc/X11 and
 there was a new xorg.conf in there. Created by the livna program.

What video card do you have?

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Re: F9-F10 No GDM

2009-01-06 Thread Eric Mesa
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net wrote:

 On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:38:07 -0500
 Eric Mesa wrote:

  I tried erasing Xorg and rebooting. Same problem. I checked my /etc/X11
 and
  there was a new xorg.conf in there. Created by the livna program.

 What video card do you have?

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Re: VMware Server 2.0, selinux, and F10

2009-01-06 Thread Daniel J Walsh
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Daniel J Walsh wrote:
 Christopher A. Williams wrote:
 I had promised to do this and post my results a week ago and got
 thoroughly tied up over the holidays - sorry about that. It was a good
 Christmas for us though! :)
 
 So - I did get around to loading up a server with the latest version of
 F10 (32-bit in this case) to run the 32-bit version of VMware Server 2.0
 (build 122956) to try and answer the burning question: Does selinux need
 to be disabled for VMware Server to run properly on F10?
 
 I know the inpatient out there can't wait to read the whole post, so
 here's the answer:
 
 Yes.
 
 According to our testing (a friend of mine who also frequents this list
 was here too), the current version of VMware Server DOES NOT RUN on F10
 (32-bit) unless selinux is DISABLED. Permissive mode doesn't cut it - it
 still causes VMware Server to not run.
 
 Here are the details:
 Server: Whitebox Supermicro 1U chassis, dual 2.4GHz Pentium Xeon
 processors, 4GB RAM, Dual Gig-E NICs, dual 250GB IDE drives
 
 OS: F10 32-bit, with all patches as of 12-28-08
 Kernel: 2.6.27.9-159.fc10 (PAE version - required to see the full 4GB)
 
 We loaded a fresh copy F10 with all of the required development tools
 and supporting stuff VMware Server needs to compile, and left selinux in
 its default (enforcing) mode and targeted policy. The system was
 intentionally updated with all of the latest available patches. After
 rebooting (kernel update that included a switch to the PAE kernel), we
 then installed VMware Server from the RPM via Package Kit. The initial
 RPM install went as expected with no errors or issues beyond the warning
 that the RPM is not signed (Request to VMware: Please, PLEASE make sure
 that you always sign your RPMs!).
 
 Next up was to configure the system. We fired up a terminal window,
 switched user to root, and then launched vmware-config.pl as normal. The
 script properly found everything it needed, set up the virtual networks,
 and compiled all of the modules against the PAE kernel with no errors at
 all. All of the services reported in as having started successfully when
 the script exited, which was when the trouble started.
 
 We immediately picked up an selinux error saying that one of the modules
 required the ability to use text relocation. No big deal here, which is
 why I don't remember off hand which module committed the offense. I'll
 go back and pull it up next chance - I'm on a different system right
 now. The selinux troubleshooter gave us the required command to address
 this issue, so we fixed the problem and off we went.
 
 ...Or so we thought.
 
 It seems that something else in selinux is interfering with a new VMware
 Server 2.0 service called VirtualMachines. I'm not sure what the problem
 is, how it happens, or why. What happens is that you can launch Firefox
 to talk to VMware server (http://localhost:8222 in this case) and get
 the VMware Server login page. However, from there you are unable to
 login. The system times out with a message basically saying that
 communication with the back-end server processes has been lost. Further
 checking (service vmware status) shows that several VMware Server
 services are actually NOT running.
 
 Upon trying to restart the vmware services (service vmware restart), we
 see that the VirtualMachines service has failed. There are no errors I
 can see, and nothing in dmesg out of the ordinary.
 
 Next, we placed selinux into permissive mode to see if anything might
 pop up or change, and then rebooted the system. We saw exactly the same
 behavior from VMware Server as before when selinux was in enforcing
 mode.
 
 Finally, we disabled selinux altogether and rebooted once more. This
 time, VMware Server came up and ran flawlessly. In fact, it was
 impressively fast given the age of the hardware.
 
 Just for grins, we then completely erased VMware Server, rebooted, and
 double-checked to make sure everything about it was completely gone from
 the system. We then re-installed it using the exact same procedure as
 before. VMware Server installed and ran flawlessly. In fact, just to be
 sure again, we rebooted the server one more time. Again VMware Server
 came up and ran without issues.
 
 Thus, in our testing of this, it is clear there are multiple issues with
 VMware Server and selinux. One of the issues is that a specific module
 requires text relocation, which is easily solved. The other issue is
 going to be a little more difficult to troubleshoot, but clearly there
 is something that conflicts between selinux and one of the new VMware
 Server services, and the only way to get around it at this point is to
 disable selinux.
 
 I'll have the system handy for the next day or so to do some additional
 testing, but then I have to put it back into production. Let me know
 what specifics I should look for next to find the source of the problem.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Chris
 
 
 
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Re: Netbook wifi, wlan0 and inet6 address (F10)

2009-01-06 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:05:33 +
Anne Wilson wrote:

 I'm still strugging to find a solution to the problems of the AR5006EG 
 wireless on the Acer Aspire One.

I  have an Acer Aspire One and have had no problems with the wireless
networking other than the freeze-up that I reported here:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=469994

Other than that, it just works.  I didn't have to do anything special to get
the wireless network working on it -- I just installed Fedora 10 on it an
everything started up all by itself.

My Acer Aspire One apparently has a ath5k phy0: Atheros AR2425 chip found (MAC:
0xe2, PHY: 0x70) (according to dmesg).

What problems are you having?

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Re: Upgrade Has Caused A Downgrade

2009-01-06 Thread Chris Snook

Gene Poole wrote:



a) When you say upgrade, do you mean telling Anaconda to upgrade an 
existing

installation?  Anaconda doesn't have logic to handle migrating from i386 to
x86_64, so it's not expected to work.  Upgrading from F8 i386 to F9 i386 
or F10
i386 generally should work.  If you want to switch architectures, you 
need a

fresh install.

I attempted to upgrade from Fedora 8 x86_64 to Fedora 9 x86_64 - which 
failed at the point where the new packages were being installed.


b) You haven't given us any diagnostic information at all.  F9 and F10 
wouldn't
have been released if x86_64 builds routinely failed to install, and 
there's
nothing exotic about your hardware, so it's highly unlikely that anyone 
is going
to immediately know what's wrong with your setup.  Please at least give 
us an

error message or something.

There is no diagnostic information from the initial install because it 
was a 'bare metal' install. I didn't retain and logs or other diagnostic 
information from the upgrade attempt because the machine would not boot 
because the primary OS file systems (/; /boot; /usr) were not fully 
populated with the Fedora 9 software - but - the Fedora 8 software was 
no longer at a point where it would boot.


Check the other virtual consoles: ctrl-alt-f3, ctrl-alt-f4, and 
ctrl-alt-f5 will probably show you something interesting.  If you have 
to, photograph the monitor and upload the screenshot to bugzilla, but 
please don't send huge image attachments to the list.  It makes mail 
servers and spam filters very cross.


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Setting SELinux for vsftpd

2009-01-06 Thread Mark Haney
I've got a server that we use to do speed testing of our upstreams (and
customers links) using FTP.  This is a fresh F10 install and I'm getting
what seems to be a very common selinux ftp error (226 Failed to open
directory). I've googled up a couple of forum posts on how to fix it,
but most say just to disable selinux.  That I'd not like to do.
However, one of the options says to do this:

setsebool -P ftpd_disable_trans 1

But I get an error:

[r...@noc5 speedtest]# setsebool -P ftpd_disable_trans 1
libsemanage.dbase_llist_set: record not found in the database
libsemanage.dbase_llist_set: could not set record value
Could not change boolean ftpd_disable_trans
Could not change policy booleans

I have seen the GUI method of doing this, but since I don't run X on
this server that's not much help.  What's the correct method of setting
selinux up for this?


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Re: Setting SELinux for vsftpd

2009-01-06 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Mark Haney mha...@ercbroadband.org wrote:
 I've got a server that we use to do speed testing of our upstreams (and
 customers links) using FTP.  This is a fresh F10 install and I'm getting
 what seems to be a very common selinux ftp error (226 Failed to open
 directory). I've googled up a couple of forum posts on how to fix it,
 but most say just to disable selinux.  That I'd not like to do.
 However, one of the options says to do this:

 setsebool -P ftpd_disable_trans 1

 But I get an error:

 [r...@noc5 speedtest]# setsebool -P ftpd_disable_trans 1
 libsemanage.dbase_llist_set: record not found in the database
 libsemanage.dbase_llist_set: could not set record value
 Could not change boolean ftpd_disable_trans
 Could not change policy booleans

 I have seen the GUI method of doing this, but since I don't run X on
 this server that's not much help.  What's the correct method of setting
 selinux up for this?


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First of, you may get better assistance from the fedora-selinux list.

Also, I'm curious as to why you're using ftp as opposed to nuttcp


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Re: Mount usb drive with mount -a fails after f10 upgrade

2009-01-06 Thread Joe W. Byers
Rick Stevens ricks at nerd.com writes:

  
  my fstab is
  /dev/sdc1/media/usbdiskext2
  pamconsole,exec,auto,hotplug,managed00
 
 Uh, are you sure the /media/usbdisk directory exists?  Directories in
 /media are generally created by udev when it senses a drive being
 plugged in and removed when the drive is unmounted and unplugged.

Rick,

Yes it exists. It was auto mounting for 3 years with the old OS's (EL4 and EL5)
using fstab 


Thank you
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Re: Setting SELinux for vsftpd

2009-01-06 Thread Mark Haney
Arthur Pemberton wrote:


 
 
 First of, you may get better assistance from the fedora-selinux list.
 
 Also, I'm curious as to why you're using ftp as opposed to nuttcp
 
 

Well, it's hard to use something you've never heard of.  However, I am
looking at it now.



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Re: Setting SELinux for vsftpd

2009-01-06 Thread Rick Stevens

Mark Haney wrote:

I've got a server that we use to do speed testing of our upstreams (and
customers links) using FTP.  This is a fresh F10 install and I'm getting
what seems to be a very common selinux ftp error (226 Failed to open
directory). I've googled up a couple of forum posts on how to fix it,
but most say just to disable selinux.  That I'd not like to do.
However, one of the options says to do this:

setsebool -P ftpd_disable_trans 1

But I get an error:

[r...@noc5 speedtest]# setsebool -P ftpd_disable_trans 1
libsemanage.dbase_llist_set: record not found in the database
libsemanage.dbase_llist_set: could not set record value
Could not change boolean ftpd_disable_trans
Could not change policy booleans

I have seen the GUI method of doing this, but since I don't run X on
this server that's not much help.  What's the correct method of setting
selinux up for this?


I don't believe that's a legit SELinux boolean for F10.  A default
SELinux config on F10 shows:

[r...@prophead ~]# getsebool -a | grep ftp
allow_ftpd_anon_write -- off
allow_ftpd_full_access -- off
allow_ftpd_use_cifs -- off
allow_ftpd_use_nfs -- off
ftp_home_dir -- off
httpd_enable_ftp_server -- off
tftp_anon_write -- off

as the only legit booleans having to do with ftp.  A check of the
SELinux logs would be far more useful, but my guess is that SELinux is
blocking access to home directories.  In that case, try

[r...@prophead ~]# setsebool -P ftp_home_dir 1

wait a minute or so after issuing that command before you try an FTP
login and transfer again...some stuff needs relabeling after that
command and it takes a bit of time to do that.
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Re: Network interfaces refusing to start on boot: F10

2009-01-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:30:40 -0500
Mark Haney wrote:

 I mean, why offer 
 the options in 's-c-n' if they aren't going to be implemented?

Because virtually everything in the vicinity of NetworkManager
is broken and needs another year or so of development to
work right? :-).

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