Fedora 8 End of Life
As announced earlier[1], Fedora 8 has reached its end of life for updates. Fedora 9 will continue to receive updates until approximately one month after the release of Fedora 11. = = = https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-December/msg00021.html -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpKyktxmRndT.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list
Discussion About Echo Perspective
Hi all, I've just posted a poll about Echo Perspective on Fedora Forum [1] to see our user base opinion and I'd like to hear the opinions of the Art Team members as well. As you are probably aware of, we are starting Echo Perspective and are selecting the designs to start with. All the design concepts are displayed together in our latest monthly issue [2]. I'd like to hear your opinions about these designs as I don't want this decision to be two people + user base poll only, and I'd like to see more people from the Art Team involved. Also being it the Art Team, I'd like this to be rather discussion than handful of +/-1 ;-) Thanks, Martin PS: Note for new members: do not hesitate to join the discussion, your opinion is as important to us as that of the old members :) References: [1] http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=210159 [2] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/MonthlyNews/Issue4-5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Doubt related to the project related to Starfighter!
RICHA MALHOTRA wrote: Hi,I am Richa Malhotra.I am very much interested in the project for making graphics for a game named Starfighter but i have many doubts regarding it!Firstly i dont know that what all graphics are actually required for it,although i have an idea that we need to make graphics for space-ships and character portraits,but still i dont have that clarity that what all is required?? Have a look at the 'gfx' directory in the data tarball: http://people.atrpms.net/~hdegoede/starfighter-data.tar.gz The graphics beside ships and portraits are trivial: arrows, bullets and a few icons. I don't think anyone (beside probably the original upstream author) can give an exact account - and probably neither him can do that, the graphics were made/collected a long time ago. And I also need to have a look at the original version of the game to have an idea and when i tried to install the game by yum install starfighter,i wasnt able to and why would i be as its not available due to non-free graphics. It was removed from the distro as we can't knowingly ship software without a legal license. You can download a generic rpm from the project's website: http://www.parallelrealities.co.uk/projects/starfighter.php Waiting eagerly to start contributing!! -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[PATCH] kojira: never delete repos
Setting deleted_repo_lifetime to 0 will tell kojira to keep repos indefinitely... diff --git a/util/kojira b/util/kojira index 19d08e7..93852d3 100755 --- a/util/kojira +++ b/util/kojira @@ -134,7 +134,7 @@ class ManagedRepo(object): self.logger.error(Can't stat repo directory: %s % path) return True age = time.time() - max(self.event_ts, mtime) -if age options.deleted_repo_lifetime: +if options.deleted_repo_lifetime == 0 or age options.deleted_repo_lifetime: #XXX should really be called expired_repo_lifetime return False self.logger.debug(Attempting to delete repo %s.. % self.repo_id) @@ -252,7 +252,7 @@ class RepoManager(object): continue if rinfo['state'] in (koji.REPO_DELETED, koji.REPO_PROBLEM): age = time.time() - max(rinfo['create_ts'], dir_ts) -if age options.deleted_repo_lifetime: +if options.deleted_repo_lifetime != 0 and age options.deleted_repo_lifetime: #XXX should really be called expired_repo_lifetime count += 1 logger.info(Removing stray repo (state=%s): %s % (koji.REPO_STATES[rinfo['state']], repodir)) -- --- Paul B Schroeder paul.schroeder at bluecoat dot com Blue Coat Systems, Inc. -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: [PATCH] kojira: never delete repos
We're building intermittent dev ISOs from our koji repos. We'd like to be able to rebuild them going back to any old repo at any point in time basically. The repo data is small enough to not be of real concern to us either. Mike McLean wrote: On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Paul B Schroeder paul.schroe...@bluecoat.com wrote: Setting deleted_repo_lifetime to 0 will tell kojira to keep repos indefinitely... Easy enough, but why would you want them indefinitely? -- --- Paul B Schroeder paul.schroeder at bluecoat dot com Blue Coat Systems, Inc. -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
[Bug 479386] New: Pango multilib conflict on F10
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: Pango multilib conflict on F10 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=479386 Summary: Pango multilib conflict on F10 Product: Fedora Version: 10 Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: pango AssignedTo: besfa...@redhat.com ReportedBy: stran...@redhat.com QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org CC: besfa...@redhat.com, fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com Classification: Fedora Target Release: --- Description of problem: Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check --- Package pango-devel.i386 0:1.22.3-1.fc10 set to be updated --- Package pango.i386 0:1.22.3-1.fc10 set to be updated -- Finished Dependency Resolution Dependencies Resolved == Package Arch Version Repository Size == Updating: pango i386 1.22.3-1.fc10 updates 375 k pango-devel i386 1.22.3-1.fc10 updates 327 k Transaction Summary == Install 0 Package(s) Update 2 Package(s) Remove 0 Package(s) Total size: 701 k Is this ok [y/N]: y Downloading Packages: = Entering rpm code == Running rpm_check_debug Running Transaction Test Finished Transaction Test Transaction Check Error: file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/PangoMarkupFormat.html from install of pango-devel-1.22.3-1.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.22.3-1.fc10.x86_64 file /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pango/pango-querymodules.html from install of pango-devel-1.22.3-1.fc10.i386 conflicts with file from package pango-devel-1.22.3-1.fc10.x86_64 Error Summary - Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): How reproducible: Steps to Reproduce: 1. yum install pango.i386 on x86_64 2. 3. Actual results: Expected results: Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477044 Bug 477044 depends on bug 477488, which changed state. Bug 477488 Summary: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477488 What|Old Value |New Value Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|RAWHIDE | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477488] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477488 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||Reopened Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|RAWHIDE | --- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-01-09 08:25:09 EDT --- [Some optional QA comments] Unless you have a very specific font style need, please consider linking from one of the DejaVu packages as most fedora systems will already have them installed so xplanet won't require the download of a new font package -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477044 Bug 477044 depends on bug 477478, which changed state. Bug 477478 Summary: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477478 What|Old Value |New Value Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|RAWHIDE | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477044 Bug 477044 depends on bug 477332, which changed state. Bug 477332 Summary: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477332 What|Old Value |New Value Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|RAWHIDE | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477409] koffice: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477409 Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||446451 Flag|needinfo? | --- Comment #3 from Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu 2009-01-09 09:16:25 EDT --- I plan to, for F-11 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477044 Bug 477044 depends on bug 477373, which changed state. Bug 477373 Summary: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477373 What|Old Value |New Value Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|RAWHIDE | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477044 --- Comment #1 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-01-09 09:33:35 EDT --- Seems Debian did the same a few years ago, so there may be some useful info here http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-de...@lists.debian.org/msg210482.html -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477044 Bug 477044 depends on bug 477385, which changed state. Bug 477385 Summary: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477385 What|Old Value |New Value Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|RAWHIDE | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477385] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477385 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||Reopened Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|RAWHIDE | --- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-01-09 09:47:57 EDT --- BTW unless your app has very specific style or metric needs it's much better to replace FreeSans Bold with symlinks to DejaVu since this one is more likely to be already installed on system (and thus you'll avoid a new font download) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477044 Bug 477044 depends on bug 477391, which changed state. Bug 477391 Summary: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477391 What|Old Value |New Value Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|RAWHIDE | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477391] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477391 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||Reopened Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|RAWHIDE | --- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-01-09 10:01:03 EDT --- Please consider symlinking to dejavu instead as it's essentially an update and extension of the dejavu fonts and besides is likely to be already available on system so a dejavu dep will usually not result in a new download -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477385] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477385 --- Comment #5 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-01-09 10:10:53 EDT --- They are not — they have slightly different style, metrics and very different coverage. But since they are both in the general-purpose font category most projects that use FreeSans do not care if it's replaced by dejavu or not. (and dejavu is better quality, has more coverage, and is part of our default installs, etc). However this is definitely something worth discussing with upstream before doing the change. (would also be a good time to suggest them to use fontconfig so you don't have to be in the font management business at all; if they use one of the higher level text libs such as pango or pangocairo they'll also win support for more scripts than just latin) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477399] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477399 --- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-01-09 10:31:51 EDT --- Note that artbrush is likely to be a free font, but tracking the original author and making sure of it requires someone with lots of persistence and time The web finds the following attribution Gary D. Jessey RR 1, Box 107 Jenkins, Kentucky 41537 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477044 Bug 477044 depends on bug 477414, which changed state. Bug 477414 Summary: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477414 What|Old Value |New Value Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|NOTABUG | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477414] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477414 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||Reopened Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|NOTABUG | --- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-01-09 10:47:09 EDT --- Please consider symlinking to the dejavu full packages are they are effectively a modern vera extension and update and will already be installed on most systems (so your package won't pull in a new font package in that case) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477410] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477410 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||Reopened Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|RAWHIDE | --- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-01-09 10:42:54 EDT --- Please use the %_font_pkg macro; its an integral part of the official font packaging guidelines. Behdad requested an end to all the variations around fontconfig caching, so he does not have to check every font package for fontconfig breakage. The %_font_pkg macro puts all this stuff in a single package he can easily audit -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477044 Bug 477044 depends on bug 477416, which changed state. Bug 477416 Summary: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477416 What|Old Value |New Value Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|RAWHIDE | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477416] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477416 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||Reopened Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|RAWHIDE | --- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-01-09 11:02:18 EDT --- There are quite a lot of fonts in there and it's not sufficient to split them in a fonts subpackage, this subpackage also needs to conform to Fedora guidelines The decision tree is the following: for each font family in lilipond: 1. check with upstream if this font was created or modified by lilypond a. if it's just a copy of someone else's font, check if this font is available in Fedora i. if yes, add a dep on the existing fedora package (for example the urw fonts) ii. if no, get the original font source packaged separately b. if the font was created or modified by lilypond, create a separate subpackage for it (that installs it in correct font directories, using the official fedora rpm font macros) 2. symlink in the main lilypond package the font files installed in /usr/share/fonts provided by those packages of subpackages 3. add all the new font packages or subpackages to the fonts comps group -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477422] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477422 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||Reopened Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|NEXTRELEASE | --- Comment #2 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-01-09 11:13:26 EDT --- Please consider symlinking to the dejavu full packages are they are effectively a modern vera extension and update and will already be installed on most systems (so your package won't pull in a new font package in that case) Also do check the package names you use in deps are available in fedora-devel ; there has been quite a lot of restructuring fonts-wise here -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477428] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477428 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||Reopened Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|RAWHIDE | --- Comment #4 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-01-09 11:15:34 EDT --- (reopening so the dejavu vs vera bit is not lost) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477044 Bug 477044 depends on bug 477428, which changed state. Bug 477428 Summary: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477428 What|Old Value |New Value Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|RAWHIDE | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477044 Bug 477044 depends on bug 477422, which changed state. Bug 477422 Summary: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477422 What|Old Value |New Value Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|NEXTRELEASE | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11
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[Bug 477432] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477432 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||Reopened Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|RAWHIDE | --- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-01-09 11:23:21 EDT --- Please consider symlinking to the correct dejavu full package as dejavu is effectively a modern vera extension and update and will already be installed on most systems (so your package won't pull in a new font package in that case) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11
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[Bug 477434] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477434 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||Reopened Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|RAWHIDE | --- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-01-09 11:28:09 EDT --- Please consider linking to dejavu full and not lgc as full is installed on most Fedora systems while LGC is not -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Issue 97885] Font and Font size show disharmony in Calc After chinese translation
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[Bug 477391] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477391 --- Comment #4 from Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net 2009-01-09 12:02:59 EDT --- Do you mean dejavu is an update of bitstream vera? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477478] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477478 --- Comment #4 from Ville Skyttä ville.sky...@iki.fi 2009-01-09 12:19:29 EDT --- 1) vdr-skins already has dependencies to the symlink target providing dejavu-fonts-lgc-sans and dejavu-fonts-lgc-sans-mono packages. Did I miss something? Ideally I'd actually like to depend on the exact symlinked filenames (they have moved at least 3 times during the last 18 or so months which is not fun at all) but that would cause download of yum filelists which is very much frowned upon. So I'll keep the package name dependencies (and have a build time %check test which unfortunately does not help after build), hoping that the font filenames are no longer moved around. 2) Thanks for the info - in Aug 2007, dejavu-lgc had become more ubiquitous than vera and full dejavu which is why I changed to it. Will take a look at switching to full dejavu. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477391] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477391 --- Comment #5 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-01-09 12:20:44 EDT --- dejavu is a fork of vera with a huge number of glyphs added and many fixes to the original vera parts. Vera has essentially fossilized when the contract Bitstream head with the GNOME foundation expired -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477416] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
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--- Comment #4 from Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net 2009-01-09 12:18:32 EDT ---
Looking at the pre-build tarball, it appears that the build process constructs
the fonts at that time. This would lead to 1b above. Do I need to move the
fonts from /usr/share/lilypond-%{version}/fonts to /usr/share/fonts/lilypond
and symlink?
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[Bug 477391] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477391 --- Comment #6 from Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net 2009-01-09 12:24:27 EDT --- So it's not technically dead, just gradually being deprecated. I'll move to dejavu. Thanks for the information. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477478] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477478 --- Comment #5 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-01-09 12:34:45 EDT --- (In reply to comment #4) 1) vdr-skins already has dependencies to the symlink target providing dejavu-fonts-lgc-sans and dejavu-fonts-lgc-sans-mono packages. Did I miss something? I'm the one who messed up, too many font spec reviews today, I'm starting to see double :( hoping that the font filenames are no longer moved around. I though they moved twice, once because of a guideline change on our part and once because upstream changed. But that was for dejavu full, lgc may have had a more bumpy history as it's less critical. We do try to avoid renammings, but sometimes they happen. Fontconfig apps don't care :) 2) Thanks for the info - in Aug 2007, dejavu-lgc had become more ubiquitous than vera and full dejavu which is why I changed to it. Will take a look at switching to full dejavu. We first used dejavu LGC as default in F6 then switched to DejaVu full for F9 when Behdad felt comfortable enough about it. Nowadays DejaVu LGC like Bitstream Vera is pretty much an historical package I don't like to see deps on. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477416] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477416 --- Comment #5 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-01-09 12:39:50 EDT --- You need to package each set of OTF font files that corresponds to a font family using the %_font_pkg macro. That will pretty much force guidelines compliance on you. I'm pretty sure at least the Century Schoolbook bit is an URW font which is already packaged many times in Fedora, and I'd be surprised the lilipond people had changed it. You probably need to discuss it a bit with lilypond people upstream. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477416] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477416 --- Comment #6 from Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net 2009-01-09 12:44:46 EDT --- The INSTALL indicates that they have changed it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477478] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477478 --- Comment #6 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-01-09 13:29:06 EDT --- (In reply to comment #5) (In reply to comment #4) 1) vdr-skins already has dependencies to the symlink target providing dejavu-fonts-lgc-sans and dejavu-fonts-lgc-sans-mono packages. Did I miss something? I'm the one who messed up, too many font spec reviews today, I'm starting to see double :( To clarify: as loog as you do not use fontconfig to discover font you do need to depend on the font files your app use (either via filename deps or via package deps, I don't care which one but others do) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477416] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477416 --- Comment #7 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-01-09 13:26:51 EDT --- Then they should rename it at least :( -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477391] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477391 Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Resolution||RAWHIDE --- Comment #7 from Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net 2009-01-09 14:22:17 EDT --- Switched to dejavu in rawhide. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
Custom Kernel USB Boot Problem
Hi everyone, I'm building a custom kernel optimized for the Eee PC netbook. The kernel works without problems when installed on the main SSD but when I tried installing it on a USB flash disk, or SD card, and booted, I got the following error: Unable to access resume device (UUID=UUID) mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as ext3: No such file or directory I'm assuming there are some packages necessary to boot from USB devices that need to be included in the kernel config which I didn't include. Can anyone give me an idea what those packages might be? Thank you. ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
Re: Custom Kernel USB Boot Problem
2009/1/9 Ahmad Al-Yaman ahmad221...@yahoo.com: Hi everyone, I'm building a custom kernel optimized for the Eee PC netbook. The kernel works without problems when installed on the main SSD but when I tried installing it on a USB flash disk, or SD card, and booted, I got the following error: Unable to access resume device (UUID=UUID) mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as ext3: No such file or directory I'm assuming there are some packages necessary to boot from USB devices that need to be included in the kernel config which I didn't include. Can anyone give me an idea what those packages might be? Isn't this problems with mkinitrd? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F10_bugs#Unbootable_new_installation_of_F10 There's not much point using journalled file systems on SSD btw - you should use ext2 to save your drive some unnecessary writes. Turn off swap too if you have it enabled. Regards -- Christopher Brown ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
Re: Custom Kernel USB Boot Problem
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 08:32:25AM -0800, Ahmad Al-Yaman wrote: Hi everyone, I'm building a custom kernel optimized for the Eee PC netbook. The kernel works without problems when installed on the main SSD but when I tried installing it on a USB flash disk, or SD card, and booted, I got the following error: Unable to access resume device (UUID=UUID) mount: error mounting /dev/root on /sysroot as ext3: No such file or directory I'm assuming there are some packages necessary to boot from USB devices that need to be included in the kernel config which I didn't include. Can anyone give me an idea what those packages might be? some random guesses.. mkinitrd probably doesn't support booting off of the mmc device. or if it does, perhaps the mmc modules are missing from the initrd. Dave -- http://www.codemonkey.org.uk ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
Re: Why Fedora 10 still uses openssl pkg from 2007, 4 releases old?
Rick Stevens wrote: Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: Rick Stevens wrote: Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: After upgrading from F7 to F10 it's unable (for me, but on several sites) access to sendmail daemon with authenticated access by either TLS (port 25) or SSL (port 465) protocols from M$ Outlook (Express too). I still make on right description this issue, its look like some problem in certificate exchange. But no matter how it's related with, surprising for me is fact, that Fedora 10 uses openssl package version 0.9.8g released in 2007, while actual released version is 0.9.8j, four versions newer. If you check the source RPM's spec file, you'll see that most (if not all) of the j patches have been backported to the g version. The trick is that the j version bumps the .so for /lib[64]/libcrypto.so.7 and /lib[64]/libssl.so.7 from .7 to .8 and a lot of existing code would break because they want .7. Hope that explains it for you. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate - -- Rick, thank for Your response. But - yes, I know just was released F10 openssl pkg 0.9.8g release 12, and I read it's changelog, thus I know what was backported to this. But I'm not agree about You these lot of existing code would break because .., as when I ask: rpm -q --whatrequires openssl tinyca2-0.7.5-4.fc10.noarch dovecot-1.1.7-1.fc10.i386 openldap-servers-2.4.12-1.fc10.i386 nash-6.0.71-3.fc10.i386 NetworkManager-0.7.0-1.git20090102.fc10.i386 sendmail-8.14.3-3.fc10.i386 openssl-devel-0.9.8g-12.fc10.i386 openssl-perl-0.9.8g-12.fc10.i386 (and I have relative large system with packages from rpmfusion, dries, atrpms, planetccrma and others) - thus, I think, only packages depend on openssl are some little from Fedora own repository. I'm right? Those are only the ones you have installed (rpm only queries your installed packages). There are probably others in the repos (not sure if yum can query for list everything dependent on openssl). On top of that, you also have to consider people (such as myself) that don't just install RPM-based packages, but have built them from source tarballs and the like. While the general rule is to simply link against the .so version of a library, many packages specifically link against the .so.(version) of the libraries to ensure they have specific APIs that may not exist in earlier versions. Unfortunately there's no link against .so.7 or later option in the linker (or if there is, it's not often used). Thus, if you installed a libssl.so.8 and DIDN'T create (or replace) a .so.7 symlink which points at the new .8 version to satisfy existing packages (and remember, there are some F9 packages in F10), your code won't run. That's why they backport the patches and ship a heavily modified g version (which retains the .so.7) instead of a (newer) j version (with the new .so.8). -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - When in doubt, mumble. - -- You are right, there is perhaps lots more packages depended on openssl, what rpm isn't able list. But yet - IMHO create symlink .so.7 to new .so.8 is I think very simple, and may be done with little patch in openssl Makefile, or in RPM install script - energy to maintain and backport bugfixes to old code must be much greater and probably isn't real maintain it over and over again. Frantisek Hanzlík -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the ATI proprietary driver and F10
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 05:09 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: That was probably the best solution. Next time stay away from install scripts, that's what RPMs are for. Uninstalling stuff installed with a script is always a PITA. And that there is no fglrx RPM in the stable RPM Fusion repositories for F10 is not an oversight, it's missing for a reason. Kevin Kofler fglrx ships with an uninstall script. I believe it was in /usr/share/ati. And, yes, you never know whether this script deletes everything what fglrx created. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
LibUSB/LibFTDI permissions problem
Hello, I'm currently developing an application to communicate with some embedded hardware via an USB-RS485 / USB-RS232 converter Tribotix USB2Dynamixel which is based on the FTDI chip. Here is information reported by dmesg about this device: --- usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 5 usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7 usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice ftdi_sio 4-2:1.0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected ftdi_sio: Detected FT232RL usb 4-2: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to ttyUSB0 usb 4-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0403, idProduct=6001 usb 4-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 usb 4-2: Product: FT232R USB UART usb 4-2: Manufacturer: FTDI usb 4-2: SerialNumber: A7003Nzt --- The device is registered as /dev/ttyUSB0. ls -lah information: -- crw-rw 1 root uucp 188, 0 2009-01-08 17:39 /dev/ttyUSB0 -- To have access to the device, I added my user to the uucp group. My application uses LibFTDI to communicate with attached devices and works properly under a Zenwalk (Slackware) configuration out of the box. Under Fedora 10 there is a failure while opening the device. LibUSB's usb_strerror() reports could not set config 1: Operation not permitted, LibFTDI's ftdi_get_error_string() reports inappropriate permissions on device!. Executing with root rights works. The failure occurs on ftdi_usb_open Neither chmodding nor chowning /dev/ttyUSB0 fixes the problem. setenforce 0 has also no impact on problem resolution, there are no SELinux reports. Additionally: after closing the device on execution as root, it gets removed and the converter has to be replugged. Is there anything I'm missing? Thank you in advance! -- Dmitri Bachtin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why Fedora 10 still uses openssl pkg from 2007, 4 releases old?
Kevin Kofler wrote: Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: rpm -q --whatrequires openssl repoquery --whatrequires --alldeps openssl Not only does rpm -q only mention deps from packages you have installed, it also only checks deps on the package name, not on the library soname, which most deps are. So your question is not only hijacking a thread, but also stupid. (It's not getting updated because it'd break the entire f***ing distro, duh!) Kevin Kofler Kevin, thank for you explanation. It's amazing - repoquery return over 500 packages, and although many of whom are from one source rpm, it is still much more that rpm -q --whatrequires list. And this list looks reputable. About hijacking a thread I was already apologized, there wasn't any bad intention from me. I not think my question is stupid - when Fedora distro has been released every half of year, then IMHO isn't big problem compile entire this against actual openssl package - in Fedora 10 case against openssl-0.9.8i. And then I was understand when bugfixes from 0.9.8j to it. And sorry for probable my other mistake - my f* should mean Fedora Core and consequent, there wasn't no ing at end of it. One other justification for my bad English knowledge. Sorry. Franta Hanzlík -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Mandatory Profile on Fedora 9
Can someone help with how I can possibly go ahead and create a mandatory profile for a public user account. I am managing public computing in a library and would like users to use one common account. However, other tech-savy users delete shortcuts and menu items to confuse starters. I would therefore want to have this common account with preferences that no-one except 'root' can change. If there is a way to automatically log-on the account on start-up? Regards /Bravo -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Mandatory Profile on Fedora 9
Bravismore Mumanyi wrote: I would therefore want to have this common account with preferences that no-one except 'root' can change. I think what you really need is a kiosk setup. a simple search for fedora+kiosk returns some interesting leads [1] hth Thierry [1] http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/13376.html or namei.org/presentations/*fedora*-*kiosk*-mode-foss-my-2008.pdf -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Log Files
Around 10:43am on Friday, January 09, 2009 (UK time), Leon Vergottini scrawled: I do need help again. I would like to know if Fedora has a log file which log all events by all users and where can I found it? Also if possible, can such a log file be created if there is not such a log file. Yes it does - although it may not include all the events you expect. There is more than one file - they are foundin /var/log. Look in messages in particular, although you will also find other logs as well, e.g. secure (for security) and maillog (obvious). Steve -- (o www.stevesearle.com //\ Powered by Fedora V_/_No MS products were used in the creation of this message 10:47:58 up 22 days, 12:07, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.09, 0.07 pgpxFDhXXy9HJ.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Log Files
2009/1/9 Leon Vergottini leon.vergott...@gmail.com: I do need help again. I would like to know if Fedora has a log file which log all events by all users and where can I found it? Also if possible, can such a log file be created if there is not such a log file. Look also at auditd daemon, it's very flexible. It can log almost every event you want because of a direct interface with the kernel. -- Giuseppe Fuggiano -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Access to sub network unreachable.
Simon Slater wrote: Hi all, I'm sure I have missed something simple (or done something stupid) but have no idea what so I'll ask anyhow. All the computers on our SOHO network had static addresses in the 192.168.0.1-9 range with netmask of 255.255.255.0 and all worked fine for ages. Now I have a Linksys gateway which has a default address of 192.168.1.1 for configuration. It works fine as a DSL router but I cannot use a browser to access the configuration. All I get is An error occurred while loading http://192.168.1.1: Could not connect to host. Pinging returns Destination Host Unreachable. I changed the netmask for the ethx device to 255.255.0.0 but this made no difference. What have I forgotten? This doesn't help as the linksys most probably has netmask of 255.255.255.0 what will help on the other hand is to make eth0:1 interface in which you will give ip-address in 192.168.1.0 network. For example /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfc-eth0:1 could look like this, if you are using NetworkManager there is probably some other way of doing this, but as I use fedora for desktop so little I haven't really checked it out. DEVICE=eth0:1 BOOTPROTO=none IPADDR=192.168.1.2 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 TYPE=Ethernet And then ifup eth0:1 (if it doesn't work service network restart will for sure.) Hope this helps, Veli-Pekka -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MP3 playback in XMMS
should have their own service, so if say, I want to search the Fedora 9 repo I don't have to dig through ASPLinux distro packages and other cruft. This should be core functionality. I believe the assumption is that users should be clever enough to type the word fedora in the system box as the search instructions tell you. Given that rpmfind predates the existance of things like Fedora or Ubuntu and is extremely comprehensive and (if you can work a web form with instructions on it) can find things by distribution it seems rather odd to suggest Fedora should build a pointless clone of the service. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MP3 playback in XMMS
Matthew Flaschen wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: Though, the main web pages are in a Wiki, and some pages are out-of-date or contain errors. Such as the link to Information on the various packages RPM Fusion distributes (- http://rpmfusion.org/Package ) near the top the page. I doubt there are enough human resources to keep a lot of web pages in good shape - they better concentrate on very few albeit relevant pages. It boggles the mind why RPM distros can't use a web GUI like Debian package search (http://packages.ubuntu.com). Instead people have to rely on half-baked third party search tools. If you didn't know, you could have just asked. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Access to sub network unreachable.
On Friday 09 January 2009 03:43:11 Simon Slater wrote: Hi all, I'm sure I have missed something simple (or done something stupid) but have no idea what so I'll ask anyhow. All the computers on our SOHO network had static addresses in the 192.168.0.1-9 range with netmask of 255.255.255.0 and all worked fine for ages. Now I have a Linksys gateway which has a default address of 192.168.1.1 for configuration. It works fine as a DSL router but I cannot use a browser to access the configuration. All I get is An error occurred while loading http://192.168.1.1: Could not connect to host. Pinging returns Destination Host Unreachable. I changed the netmask for the ethx device to 255.255.0.0 but this made no difference. What have I forgotten? This is pretty normal. Many routers are set to 192.168.1.1. The simple way to deal with it is to change the ip of one of your boxes to 192.168.1.x and use that box to access the router. Then you will be able to change the router address to 192.168.0.1. Reboot. You must then change your box back to 192.168.0.x From then on your router can be configured through your normal browser without problems. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Mandatory Profile on Fedora 9
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 12:21 +0200, Bravismore Mumanyi wrote: Can someone help with how I can possibly go ahead and create a mandatory profile for a public user account. I am managing public computing in a library and would like users to use one common account. However, other tech-savy users delete shortcuts and menu items to confuse starters. I would therefore want to have this common account with preferences that no-one except 'root' can change. There's several ways of making guest accounts. One technique is to set up a guest account how you want it, and that set-up will be stored. Then whenever a guest logs in, they get a fresh login as predefined by you. And when they log out, it's deleted. The next guest goes through the same cycle (fresh settings applied to them, and removed as they log out). One of them was called xguest, I tried it out last year. If there is a way to automatically log-on the account on start-up? That used to be easy, not sure how easily you can do that now, unless you use KDM instead GDM. But it wasn't really necessary with the one of the guest set-ups, it gave them a password-less login. They just clicked on the guest user, and that was it. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.9-73.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10
Timothy Murphy-5 wrote: NM works much better (now), but personally I wish WiFi came on line before login. Me too! I have looked at various postings about editing the network manager .conf file to add ,keyfile so that you can make a network connection become system-wide - but this has totally defeated me - I have F10 fully updated but have not been able to make this work for my home WPA encrypted connection. Sure the NM connects for any user once they are logged in - but despite giving authorization to the user (i.e. to me) I could not persuade NM to set a system-wide wireless connection if anyone knows the magic recipe please do post it on this forum? Maybe that facility is still not actually working in the latest version of NM? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Network-Manager%2C-Firefox-and-more-on-FC10-tp21323900p21371911.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Access to sub network unreachable.
Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 09 January 2009 03:43:11 Simon Slater wrote: Hi all, I'm sure I have missed something simple (or done something stupid) but have no idea what so I'll ask anyhow. All the computers on our SOHO network had static addresses in the 192.168.0.1-9 range with netmask of 255.255.255.0 and all worked fine for ages. Now I have a Linksys gateway which has a default address of 192.168.1.1 for configuration. It works fine as a DSL router but I cannot use a browser to access the configuration. All I get is An error occurred while loading http://192.168.1.1: Could not connect to host. Pinging returns Destination Host Unreachable. I changed the netmask for the ethx device to 255.255.0.0 but this made no difference. What have I forgotten? This is pretty normal. Many routers are set to 192.168.1.1. The simple way to deal with it is to change the ip of one of your boxes to 192.168.1.x and use that box to access the router. Then you will be able to change the router address to 192.168.0.1. Reboot. You must then change your box back to 192.168.0.x From then on your router can be configured through your normal browser without problems. Anne maybe easier is to use the builtin dhcp to configure the router then go back to static as explained here above -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the ATI proprietary driver and F10
Jeff Spaleta wrote: Try: system-config-display --reconfig may help or it may not. Since I don't know what the proprietary drivers changed. I can't tell you if its going to do anything to fix Just thought I would add my experience in here - I have a system on which I used a normal F10 install and got graphics totally messed up with an Intel 82945G graphics chipset. Once I had been able to get to boot to runlevel 3 I was totally unable to start x doing system-config-display --reconfig (and of course system-config-display is not installed by default so you have to install it via yum after the main install!) I also saw that in this situation system-config-display --noui --reconfig should work but in my case it refused to see the graphics card at all... so in the end I decided to go back to the start and do a clean install from scratch again, but this time used the xdriver=vesa nomodeset kernel option both for the install, and also for firstboot - and then once firstboot was complete I added these to the grub stanza so ensure that the vesa driver was used subsequently during boot. At present it seems like there is an awful lot of breakage in the intel drivers and possibly the ATI drivers - and there is nothing more disheartening than having a system that won't offer a graphical login even if you know there are serious issues with the graphics drivers. Almost anything else you can work around since you can get to a graphical desktop and keep working on other stuff whilst you fix issues via the command line in a terminal window. By the way this is not specifically a Fedora problem - this graphics driver pain is being felt by users of other major linux distributions also - but it is certainly giving a bad smell to those who have hardware that is affected by this. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/the-ATI-proprietary-driver-and-F10-tp21361204p21372177.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Access to sub network unreachable.
On Friday 09 January 2009 13:10:38 Tosh wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 09 January 2009 03:43:11 Simon Slater wrote: Hi all, I'm sure I have missed something simple (or done something stupid) but have no idea what so I'll ask anyhow. All the computers on our SOHO network had static addresses in the 192.168.0.1-9 range with netmask of 255.255.255.0 and all worked fine for ages. Now I have a Linksys gateway which has a default address of 192.168.1.1 for configuration. It works fine as a DSL router but I cannot use a browser to access the configuration. All I get is An error occurred while loading http://192.168.1.1: Could not connect to host. Pinging returns Destination Host Unreachable. I changed the netmask for the ethx device to 255.255.0.0 but this made no difference. What have I forgotten? This is pretty normal. Many routers are set to 192.168.1.1. The simple way to deal with it is to change the ip of one of your boxes to 192.168.1.x and use that box to access the router. Then you will be able to change the router address to 192.168.0.1. Reboot. You must then change your box back to 192.168.0.x From then on your router can be configured through your normal browser without problems. Anne maybe easier is to use the builtin dhcp to configure the router then go back to static as explained here above Never thought of that, but yes, it should work :-) Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the ATI proprietary driver and F10
On Friday 09 January 2009 13:20:52 Mike Cloaked wrote: Jeff Spaleta wrote: Try: system-config-display --reconfig may help or it may not. Since I don't know what the proprietary drivers changed. I can't tell you if its going to do anything to fix Just thought I would add my experience in here - I have a system on which I used a normal F10 install and got graphics totally messed up with an Intel 82945G graphics chipset. Once I had been able to get to boot to runlevel 3 I was totally unable to start x doing system-config-display --reconfig (and of course system-config-display is not installed by default so you have to install it via yum after the main install!) I also saw that in this situation system-config-display --noui --reconfig should work but in my case it refused to see the graphics card at all... so in the end I decided to go back to the start and do a clean install from scratch again, but this time used the xdriver=vesa nomodeset kernel option both for the install, and also for firstboot - and then once firstboot was complete I added these to the grub stanza so ensure that the vesa driver was used subsequently during boot. At present it seems like there is an awful lot of breakage in the intel drivers and possibly the ATI drivers - and there is nothing more disheartening than having a system that won't offer a graphical login even if you know there are serious issues with the graphics drivers. Almost anything else you can work around since you can get to a graphical desktop and keep working on other stuff whilst you fix issues via the command line in a terminal window. By the way this is not specifically a Fedora problem - this graphics driver pain is being felt by users of other major linux distributions also - but it is certainly giving a bad smell to those who have hardware that is affected by this. I had a conversation with a kde developer about graphics problems, largely because I'd had the freezing problem. I think it's relevant here to quote him: The default acceleration path for most drivers right now is the outdated and slower XAA (Option AccelMethod XAA) which is not recommended anymore, especially with compositing. Unfortunately, the proprietary binary blobs of ATI and NVidia still only support XAA He went on to tell me that 3D and EXA support for HD2xxx and above is expected later this year (2009) as they are already in an experimental branch (of free drivers, AIUI). Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: LibUSB/LibFTDI permissions problem
Thank you very much for your reply, On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 00:44 -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Dmitri Bachtin damg@googlemail.com wrote: Additionally: after closing the device on execution as root, it gets removed and the converter has to be replugged. That I'm not sure about. I'll have to try to reproduce that with the FTDI based usb to serial breakout boards I have on hand. it actually gets already removed after opening the device, not closing. My observation was wrong. I've pasted `udevmonitor /dev/ttyUSB0` to http://rafb.net/p/CY7p2S91.html and sample code at http://rafb.net/p/OmEu0t95.html in hope it might be of use. When sleep(...) hit, the device file was already away. After a ftdi_usb_find_all(...) it is still there. ... As for the permissions... look at configuration PolicyKit to change the authorizations for serial modems ... -jef As you suggested, I used PolicyKit to provide direct access to serial modems. Here is my `polkit-auth --user` output: http://rafb.net/p/3dtITs74.html . org.freedesktop.hal.device-access.modem is now listed in the output. I tried defining explicitly my user and played with global access options, replugged the device and rebooted. The result is unfortunately still the same: inappropriate permissions on device. Best regards, -- Dmitri Bachtin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
turn off update notifications in KDE
Hi all; I'm not sure what package it is but when new updates, security fixes, etc are available I get pop-up windows in KDE. Anyone know which package this is and how I can turn it off ? Thanks in advance. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Video Problems
On Jan 8, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Chris wrote: 2009/1/8 Margaret Doll margaret_d...@brown.edu: We have a lot of RedHat and Fedora systems. We have only had video problems on one of these systems. To use get the graphics correctly running on a console for a Dell Precision 530 with a display of P992, one has to have initial display files that are specific to the system. I cannot create an account on the Dell Precision 530 and have the console display work unless the login directory is directly on the 530 with the specific .gconf files for the 530. I usually create home directories on one system and have the home directory mounted on a bank of computers so that the user can sit anywhere in the room and log into the same directory each time. Say machine A contains our home directories and the 530 is not machine A. A user sitting at the console of the 530 with his home directory on machine A and logging in, gets a mostly black console screen on which no graphics appear. I have only had this happen once, but cannot afford to have it happen again. Are there any combination of Dell stations and monitors that I should avoid. Can you explain in more detail how you are connecting from from one machine to the other? You say machine A contains our home directories and the 530 is not machine A. How do you connect from the 530 to machine A? Is it an SSH connection or something else? Please explain how you make the connection, maybe it will help to understand the problem. I am running the computers with a modified NIS setup. Home directories are located on one main server, say machine A, but each computer has its own password file. Password files on Machine B show the home directory for each user except root to be on a partition on machine A which is mounted nfs. Password file on Machine A show the home directory for each user to be on one of its native partitions. In this way no matter which system the user sits in front of, he logs into the same directory. Thanks, Chris. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Error
xset: bad font path element (#23), possible causes are: Directory does not exist or has wrong permissions Directory missing fonts.dir Incorrect font server address or syntax Anyone know how to fix that? Thomas E. Casartello, Jr. Staff Assistant - Wireless Technician/Linux Administrator Information Technology Wilson 105A Westfield State College (413) 572-8245 Red Hat Certified Technician (RHCT) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Fedora 10 KDE Crash
Scratch my previous email. My coworker is still having problems. This is the full message. xset: bad font path element (#23), possible causes are: Directory does not exist or has wrong permissions Directory missing fonts.dir Incorrect font server address or syntax startkde: Starting up... kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/libexec/kde4/klauncher kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kded4 kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kbuildsycoca4 kbuildsycoca4 running... kbuildsycoca4(31126)/kdecore (KService) KBuildServiceFactory::collectInheritedServices: parent mimetype not found: text/xml kbuildsycoca4(31126)/kdecore (KService) KBuildServiceFactory::collectInheritedServices: parent mimetype not found: text/xml kbuildsycoca4(31126)/kdecore (KService) KBuildServiceFactory::collectInheritedServices: parent mimetype not found: text/xml kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/libexec/kde4/kconf_update kded(31081): Communication problem with kded , it probably crashed. Error message was: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply : Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kcminit_startup kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/ksmserver Thomas E. Casartello, Jr. Staff Assistant - Wireless Technician/Linux Administrator Information Technology Wilson 105A Westfield State College Red Hat Certified Technician (RHCT) -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Casartello, Thomas Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:57 AM To: 'Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.' Subject: RE: Fedora 10 KDE Crash It's immediately on launching KDE Thomas E. Casartello, Jr. Staff Assistant - Wireless Technician/Linux Administrator Information Technology Wilson 105A Westfield State College Red Hat Certified Technician (RHCT) -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:57 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: Fedora 10 KDE Crash On Monday 05 January 2009 16:29:04 Casartello, Thomas wrote: My coworker just upgraded to Fedora 10 from 9 and it crashes every time he launches KDE (Doesn't happen with GNOME.) This is his video card ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro] . Any thoughts? A few things that might be worth trying: Delete ~/.kde/share/config/plasma*rc - if there is corruption in either of those rebuilding them (by re-logging in) should get rid of the problem. If you have flgrx, remove it. KWin apparently doesn't like it. In systemsettings - make sure that Desktop Effects are not enabled. There are some known problems. Most reports have been about Intel video, but I have problems of freezes on this laptop which is ATi Radeon X600. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464866 is almost certainly my problem. Whether it's your colleague's depends I guess on whether his crash is immediately on launching KDE or random times afterwards. Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Log Files
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 10:51 +, Steve Searle wrote: Around 10:43am on Friday, January 09, 2009 (UK time), Leon Vergottini scrawled: I do need help again. I would like to know if Fedora has a log file which log all events by all users and where can I found it? Also if possible, can such a log file be created if there is not such a log file. Yes it does - although it may not include all the events you expect. There is more than one file - they are foundin /var/log. Look in messages in particular, although you will also find other logs as well, e.g. secure (for security) and maillog (obvious). Steve Also look at the commands last, lastlog , lastcomm and lastb -- === Cobol programmers are down in the dumps. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
powering off USB port after eject. was Re: Ipod issues
Kevin Kofler wrote, On 01/08/2009 10:39 PM: Todd Zullinger wrote: The iPod should be sent an eject rather than just a umount. Well, really it's the iPod being weird. It doesn't make sense to eject a USB device. I'm pretty sure it's actually safe to disconnect the iPod once it is unmounted, even if the firmware doesn't understand this. Kevin Kofler On a somewhat related note... Am I just working with too old a fedora here (F8, and no wise crack about it being EOL) to see it, or has the Linux kernel still not started powering off USB devices when 'ejected'? when I 'safely remove' a USB stick from a windows 2K|XP machine it appears that the power is removed from the the stick, i.e., the LED goes out and stays out on the stick. when I issue `eject` on a Linux machine the file system gets unmounted but the device still appears powered. Or is there just some trick that MS is playing with the devices that tells the device 'shut off the LED'??? -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: HiJacking Threads Was: hostapd for Fedora 10
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 2:32 AM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I'm not even sure where to write to to ask for a Gmail enhancement (I have a few I'd like to register). have a look at; http://mail.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=contact_policy Thanks g poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Work area in F10
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Antonio M antonio.montagn...@gmail.com wrote: After this morning I can select only one area of work Is aomeone else experiencing same problem??? What is an area of work? poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Work area in F10
2009/1/9 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Antonio M antonio.montagn...@gmail.com wrote: After this morning I can select only one area of work Is aomeone else experiencing same problem??? What is an area of work? poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines the window selector on the application bar: sorry for bad translation ;-) But after some logging in and out everything is running fine again with four windows... Tnx -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
new Fedora 10 install - no Kate KDE editor
Hi all; I've just installed fedora 10 on a new box but I dont have the KDE editor 'kate'. Anyone know which package I need to install to get it? Thanks in advance -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: HiJacking Threads Was: hostapd for Fedora 10
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Thanks g most welcome. i hope you can get some results. peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look at* it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: F10 -- Failure to create ./resolv.conf.predhclient.eth0
Finally got some time to install F10 yesterday. Wiped away a working F7 install to do so. Selected dhcp to get up and running, and all worked A- OK. After the first reboot, I went back to configure static addressing on eth0. The operation failed and I received an SELinux alert that stated: SELinux is preventing mv (dhcp_t) create to ./resolv.conf.predhclient.eth0 (net_conf_t). The SELinux recommendation was to execute: restorecon -v './resolv.conf.predhclient.eth0' That operation failed with a file not found message. A search of the filesystem did not turn up a copy of the file...anywhere. So...there is no file for mv to use as the source. I reconfigured and went back to dhcp, but that fails. I now have no network connectivity with either dhcp or static addressing. Any ideas? BTW, from first glance, I really like F10. Update -- I've got networking back. Not completely sure why, but when I perused the running services last night I noticed that NetworkManager was running, but the Network service was not. I enabled it, started it, rebooted the box, then went in and configured dhcp through the NetworkManager tool. Now based on the heated discussion about F10 and NetworkManager, I'm reluctant to attempt to go back to static addressing (what I use on the workstations in the lab). Dave McGuffey Principal Information System Security Engineer // NSA-IEM, NSA-IAM SAIC, IISBU, Columbia, MD -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: new Fedora 10 install - no Kate KDE editor
On Friday 09 January 2009 15:30:02 Kevin Kempter wrote: Hi all; I've just installed fedora 10 on a new box but I dont have the KDE editor 'kate'. Anyone know which package I need to install to get it? Isn't it a stand-alone package? Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MP3 playback in XMMS
Alan Cox wrote: should have their own service, so if say, I want to search the Fedora 9 repo I don't have to dig through ASPLinux distro packages and other cruft. This should be core functionality. I believe the assumption is that users should be clever enough to type the word fedora in the system box as the search instructions tell you. Actually, the main search box has no such instructions, just Search It does tell me more than I need to know about their ISP, though. Given that rpmfind predates the existance of things like Fedora or Ubuntu Oldies aren't always goodies. and is extremely comprehensive and (if you can work a web form with instructions on it) can find things by distribution it seems rather odd to suggest Fedora should build a pointless clone of the service. I'm not suggesting they build a clone of rpmfind. I'm suggesting they build an interface that's useful. Rpmfind has many problems. URLs like http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/fedora/10/i386/ftp-0.17-48.fc10.i386.html are unusable compared to http://packages.debian.org/etch/ftp (or http://packages.debian.org/etch/i386/ftp/download). Telling me the only file in a package is called Ù] is not all that helpful (http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/sourceforge/f/fe/fedorafrog/fedora_frog-1.0-8.0.3.i386.html) The search by distribution interface (http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=submit=Search) isn't on the main page and provides no drop down for avaialable distros. If you type something like Fedora 9, it truncates it to Fedora. It's one thing to say no one has time/resources to build something better now. It's quite another to claim this is adequate. Matt Flaschen Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Jeff Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: The reason people are confused by NM is because it is almost completely undocumented. If something does not work it is doubly annoying to be told that it just works. What exactly are you looking for in terms of documentation? Or let me ask it another way. Well, how about something along the lines of what you just posted? Ironically, your post has increased my knowledge of NM by about an order of magnitude beyond the it just works nonsense, which rather begs the question of why at least this level of information isn't part of the standard docs. (I use NM and it just works for me, but if it ever doesn't just work I'll have no idea why). poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: new Fedora 10 install - no Kate KDE editor
Around 03:30pm on Friday, January 09, 2009 (UK time), Kevin Kempter scrawled: Hi all; I've just installed fedora 10 on a new box but I dont have the KDE editor 'kate'. Anyone know which package I need to install to get it? # yum provides */bin/kate The result from this shows kdesdk is what is wanted. Steve -- (o www.stevesearle.com //\ Powered by Fedora V_/_No MS products were used in the creation of this message 16:22:47 up 22 days, 17:41, 1 user, load average: 0.47, 0.22, 0.08 pgpTlUQpxfuTm.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: new Fedora 10 install - no Kate KDE editor
On Friday 09 January 2009 09:18:26 Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 09 January 2009 15:30:02 Kevin Kempter wrote: Hi all; I've just installed fedora 10 on a new box but I dont have the KDE editor 'kate'. Anyone know which package I need to install to get it? Isn't it a stand-alone package? Anne I don't think so: This is from a box that does have kate installed: # rpm -q --whatprovides kate no package provides kate # yum search kate Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit fedora| 2.8 kB 00:00 rpmfusion-free-updates| 2.7 kB 00:00 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates | 2.7 kB 00:00 rpmfusion-free| 2.7 kB 00:00 rpmfusion-nonfree | 2.7 kB 00:00 updates | 2.3 kB 00:00 === Matched: kate === kdebase3-devel.i386 : Development files for kdebase3 kdebase3-devel.x86_64 : Development files for kdebase3 kdesdk.x86_64 : The KDE Software Development Kit (SDK) kdesvn.i386 : A subversion client for KDE4 with KIO integration kdesvn.x86_64 : A subversion client for KDE4 with KIO integration ktechlab.x86_64 : Development and simulation of microcontrollers and electronic : circuits vlc.i386 : Multi-platform MPEG, DVD, and DivX player vlc.x86_64 : Multi-platform MPEG, DVD, and DivX player -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: new Fedora 10 install - no Kate KDE editor
Around 04:25pm on Friday, January 09, 2009 (UK time), Kevin Kempter scrawled: # rpm -q --whatprovides kate I presume (but don't really know) that rpm, like yum needs the path, so it should be # rpm -q --whatprovides */kate or # rpm -q --whatprovides */bin/kate to cut down on the output. Steve -- (o www.stevesearle.com //\ Powered by Fedora V_/_No MS products were used in the creation of this message 16:27:04 up 22 days, 17:46, 1 user, load average: 0.23, 0.20, 0.10 pgpCXgFXSL48k.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MP3 playback in XMMS
Rahul Sundaram wrote: It boggles the mind why RPM distros can't use a web GUI like Debian package search (http://packages.ubuntu.com). Instead people have to rely on half-baked third party search tools. If you didn't know, you could have just asked. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb That /could/ become a good end-user search, but right now it isn't. By its own admission it is solely for package developers and release engineers, not end users. It doesn't have obvious functionality like viewing files in a given package. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: turn off update notifications in KDE
Kevin Kempter wrote: I'm not sure what package it is but when new updates, security fixes, etc are available I get pop-up windows in KDE. Anyone know which package this is and how I can turn it off ? kpackagekit or gnome-PackageKit can do this, when configured to do so (notifications are enabled by default). Run kpackagekit - Settings, *uncheck* Notify when updates are available -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: new Fedora 10 install - no Kate KDE editor
Kevin Kempter wrote: This is from a box that does have kate installed: # rpm -q --whatprovides kate no package provides kate try rpm -q --whatprovides -f /usr/bin/kate -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Fedora 10 KDE Crash
Casartello, Thomas wrote: kded(31081): Communication problem with kded , it probably crashed. Error message was: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply : Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. try: rpm -qV dbus (if not using dbus-1.2.4-2, update) regardless, wouldn't hurt to: yum install @kde-desktop to ensure there are no missing components. -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: (I use NM and it just works for me, but if it ever doesn't just work I'll have no idea why). dbus-monitor --system is always fun to watch. -jef -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem with GXine
Hi, Can someone tell about this segmentation fault with gxine? From: GMS S gms...@yahoo.com Subject: Problem with GXine To: fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 125182.55737...@web59903.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I installed GXine.Right clicking a file like abc.rmvb it starts playing.After running sometime when I click the upper top close button a message segmentation fault is shown. Would someone please tell me what should I do? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Grub and two distros
I think I may have solved the mystery of my wireless problems - I'll report back in a few hours when I'm more sure. Meanwhile, I'm now about to reinstall Fedora. I'd like, if possible, to keep Linpus Lite, as I found that having the easy interface on the EeePC was very useful when strangers were curious about it. Linpus appears to be using about 8GB, so I figure that if I shrink its partition to 12GB that should be plenty for anything I'll ever need. I'll then do a custom install of Fedora. I've not done a dual install like this before (apart from windows dual-boot). Can I expect that grub will recognise and set up the Linpus installation, or am I likely to have to do some jiggery- pokery to get things going? If there are any problems I want to know about them before I start :-) Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MP3 playback in XMMS
It's one thing to say no one has time/resources to build something better now. It's quite another to claim this is adequate. I look forward to your new site and search facility Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 07:48 -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: (I use NM and it just works for me, but if it ever doesn't just work I'll have no idea why). dbus-monitor --system is always fun to watch. there's someone else besides me that needs a life ;-) Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Grub and two distros
Sure - but when you install kernel updates on one or the other, then tend to trample the bootloader in mbr Craig On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 17:12 +, Gustavo Eli wrote: Fedora is very likely to recognize the partition in the installation and add the grub, and to check the type of grub partitions have been installed. Gustavo Eli Pelcastre H. I think I may have solved the mystery of my wireless problems - I'll report back in a few hours when I'm more sure. Meanwhile, I'm now about to reinstall Fedora. I'd like, if possible, to keep Linpus Lite, as I found that having the easy interface on the EeePC was very useful when strangers were curious about it. Linpus appears to be using about 8GB, so I figure that if I shrink its partition to 12GB that should be plenty for anything I'll ever need. I'll then do a custom install of Fedora. I've not done a dual install like this before (apart from windows dual-boot). Can I expect that grub will recognise and set up the Linpus installation, or am I likely to have to do some jiggery- pokery to get things going? If there are any problems I want to know about them before I start :-) Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
FC 10 Software Update
When I try to update my system, I get following error. failed to get a TID: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.freedesktop.PackageKit.Transaction member SetLocale error name (unset) destination org.freedesktop.PackageKit) (0) Can someone tell me how to fix this. I am having other issues too, but want to fix this issue first (may be a software update has already fixed my issues). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Grub and two distros
For that reason, it is necessary to keep the configurations from grub. Gustavo Eli Pelcastre H. Sure - but when you install kernel updates on one or the other, then tend to trample the bootloader in mbr Craig On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 17:12 +, Gustavo Eli wrote: Fedora is very likely to recognize the partition in the installation and add the grub, and to check the type of grub partitions have been installed. Gustavo Eli Pelcastre H. I think I may have solved the mystery of my wireless problems - I'll report back in a few hours when I'm more sure. Meanwhile, I'm now about to reinstall Fedora. I'd like, if possible, to keep Linpus Lite, as I found that having the easy interface on the EeePC was very useful when strangers were curious about it. Linpus appears to be using about 8GB, so I figure that if I shrink its partition to 12GB that should be plenty for anything I'll ever need. I'll then do a custom install of Fedora. I've not done a dual install like this before (apart from windows dual-boot). Can I expect that grub will recognise and set up the Linpus installation, or am I likely to have to do some jiggery- pokery to get things going? If there are any problems I want to know about them before I start :-) Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10
Jeff Spaleta wrote: dbus-monitor --system is always fun to watch. I started this in a terminal - how the heck to you stop it once it has started? I tried the usual things like ctrl-c, esc etc and nothing seems to stop it! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Network-Manager%2C-Firefox-and-more-on-FC10-tp21323900p21376639.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:26 -0800, Mike Cloaked wrote: Jeff Spaleta wrote: dbus-monitor --system is always fun to watch. I started this in a terminal - how the heck to you stop it once it has started? I tried the usual things like ctrl-c, esc etc and nothing seems to stop it! try Control-Z Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: there's someone else besides me that needs a life ;-) Even better, I've written a shell script to screen scraper dbus-monitor output and then send me a desktop notification over dbus when there's an event i care about. D-Bus is somewhat self documenting once you understand the paradigm. You just have to understand itand as a breed sysadmins only really understand something by scripting it. We don't read API documentation. Right now D-Bus and its kin are aimed at application programers, with a set of API documentation available on the net. Its exactly the sort of documentation sysadmins do not want. its part of the paradigm shift associated with D-Bus. As sysadmins we need to start figuring out how to help get service introspection implemented for anything d-bus capable so we can start to learn how to fire-off interactions with custom scripted clients by poking the bus and asking it questions about what methods and objects services are providing without having to read API documentation. I continue to think there is something extremely valuable in what the oddjob project attempts to do by making it easier to use D-Bus for sysadmin oriented tasks. Oddjob might not be the right implementation, but I think there is a kernel of goodness there in the approach for sysadmins. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Grub and two distros
when i install fedora 10 on this box, already a quad boot, f10 thought it was only system. when i selected to install a start for another install, it did so. but true to form, it did not work. so i manually edited grub.conf and set it up as i wanted and anaconda has never been able to do. Gustavo Eli wrote: For that reason, it is necessary to keep the configurations from grub. Gustavo Eli Pelcastre H. Sure - but when you install kernel updates on one or the other, then tend to trample the bootloader in mbr Craig On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 17:12 +, Gustavo Eli wrote: Fedora is very likely to recognize the partition in the installation and add the grub, and to check the type of grub partitions have been installed. Gustavo Eli Pelcastre H. I think I may have solved the mystery of my wireless problems - I'll report back in a few hours when I'm more sure. Meanwhile, I'm now about to reinstall Fedora. I'd like, if possible, to keep Linpus Lite, as I found that having the easy interface on the EeePC was very useful when strangers were curious about it. Linpus appears to be using about 8GB, so I figure that if I shrink its partition to 12GB that should be plenty for anything I'll ever need. I'll then do a custom install of Fedora. I've not done a dual install like this before (apart from windows dual-boot). Can I expect that grub will recognise and set up the Linpus installation, or am I likely to have to do some jiggery- pokery to get things going? If there are any problems I want to know about them before I start :-) Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look at* it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
